Mercedes EQE 300 range test
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"poor mens Benz" 🤣 Me driving Opel Corsa...
Poor man's Benz? Maybe for someone on a Norwegian salary...
exactly what I thought
@@andrejmeschede2057 Not all Norwegians have a high sallary 😁
It’s in refrens to the cost of a highly spect one. not everyone can afford a mercedes and thats how it should be! its a premium brand
If you refer to this car as the "poor man's Mercedes", one more time, I'm going to scream!
I did a rolldown test with a Model S 100D in neutral with no PM motor. It came as far as the Raven with one PM motor.
I love your blinker check, Bjørn!
the tiny dispay looks SOOOOOO much better than the hyper crap one, only wish you could get the tiny display with the nice brown wood on the center console but that only comes when you get the hyper crap display
I´ve got the normal display in my EQS to, and its actually a pretty big screen, also i didnot want to pay 9000€ optionprice for the hyperscreen.. thats just insane
@@Lz0n3 yeah I agree is still quite big (tiny compared to the big one i meant 😄) but much better than the hyper one, having the dash alone all glass is enough to make me not want it, just imagine all the dust and fingerprints you'll constantly see.
@@Darx97 i would go crazy! 🤣🤣🤣 its as hard as it is to keep the centerscreen clean🤣
@@Lz0n3 i really don't like the current idea of putting glossy plastic everywhere in the car, it would scratch so fast and look bad in the first hours after buying the car, now imagine buying a second hand car with glossy trim inside, it would look so bad and worn
The new Mercedes EQE SUV now has a heat-pump. Other EVA2 platform models will get it too. They also added a clutch in the EQE SUV so the front motor can be disconnected in AWD model to increase efficiency.
Yup, an a actual physical clutch. Will not be as fast to react compared to electronics that power the motor. However efficiency should be better!
are both motor, front and rear, permanent synchronous machines? not line tesla front motor?
@@freestymc both are pms motors
Shame about the ones that dont have it , wonder if the battery degrades like the Nissaan leaf has over a 8 to10 year period cheaper car, but fast charging uncooled batteries very damaging and can be dangerous. They have sold a lot without
@@2cakesken Uncooled batteries?
If the EQE is poor man's Mercedes... What will the C class equivalent be? Ultra poverty spec?
C class then will be slightly better than taking the bus.
@@andrejmeschede2057 Then an smart would like "just walking" ... lol :)
Good point. Then what’s an ID4? Homeless?
Very decent range. Very good efficiency, high battery capacity. The best most reasonable option with between EQE
Nah, EQS ESV 300 should be best cause of heatpump.
@@RobertPuklin I wrote this for the EQE category
@@ron999 Suspicious, i can't find that fault code from anywhere else. My opinion is that the EV clinic post is bullshit.
That quote should be in an ad: "The Mercedes EQE 300; If you want the EQS look. But don't want to pay out your ass"
Good morning from UK!
EQE 300 with just 19 inch wheels makes the consumption difference and the weight.
Even the small spoiler at the rear does not increase the consumption too much vs. EQS.
Great road test. Rear Drive is perfect. 470 range is great. But $70 k price tag is not quite the poor man s option :) However, the most important question is, whether the infotainment system speaks American English instead of British English for the US versions? :) Can t wait for more videos about EQE.
Thanks bro
Could you manage to do a noise test of a hakkapeliitta EV and the normal hakkapeliitta in a same car just to know if they REALLY make a difference. I am thinking of maybe buying them but they come with a premium price just to be quite
The Poor man´s mercedes? I don´t know if i agree to that because the EQE is next to the EQS the highest in the eq range.. you also have the EQA, EQB, EQV and than the EQE and EQS.
+ the star front grill is also an option on the EQS 🤣.
Don´t get me worng, i love your videos. But i think you made a judgement fault on this one 😉
not only is the front grill an option, ambient lightning is an option, stars on dashboard is an option, sound system upgrade is an option spoiler is an option,...
“At least we have blinkers”😂😂😂
Errrrr .... your "poor man's Benz" is 70.000+ EUR
It cost 58500 Euro in Norway , and you can get 5% discount. Kr602000
Yes, half price of a proper EQS...
Good afternoon from S.Korea!
😂😂 this guy is genuinely funny
You keep talking about the awd and rwd consumption difference with legacy brands and Tesla. In you own tests Model 3 SR+ vs LR difference is 15%, EQE RWD vs awd (AMG) is 13% and EQS rwd vs awd is 11%.
Different batteries in Tesla SR+ and LR.
Same batteries in RWD/AWD EQs.
Therefore not exactly comparable.
Incorrect. The conditions were not the same.
@@bjornnyland Incorrect. In Tesla's case the temperature is perfect for both LR and SR+ (24-27 degrees) and wheels+ tires are the same. In EQE's case the temp is similar for rwd and AMG 53 but the AMG has 21 inch wheels and fatter tires and still only 14% off the rwd. Also VW ID4 seems to be even more efficient in awd spec vs rwd for some reason. Where is the evidence that Tesla is closer in rwd vs awd?
Actually i am loving that it doesn’t have as much crap installed, just coming from watching a test of a fully equipped eqe 350+ and i didn’t like it at all, so much crap just makes driving complicated, i use my car to transport myself not being fed information i can manage without, if it was up to me i wouldn’t have lane assist auto brake or any other driving assist systems, looks like something for me, and btw it must be pretty annoying watching this clip about the poor mans Mercedes if you are driving a A class…
The good thing with this EQE 300 is that it has the best range and it still doesn't seem slow, whats the point having the fastest car (meaning the fastest EQE if you will have much lower range) as this was 60km more in winter compared to that one in summer, thats a big difference, I bet in summer that could make around 100km and thats a big difference for me, I need the car to have around 400km range at 120 - 130 km/h in winter to feel comfortable. EQE 300 has that.
Is the steering wheel an optional extra?
At least we have turn left and right blinker🤣.
How was the headlight?
At 80k+ in Canada it is hardly poor to buy this thing.
i hear the EQE suv is coming out soon ....
@Bjorn If it’s between the i4 and EQE. Which one would you go for? Both cases dual motor.
I would buy the Mercedes (I drive the smaller VW).
@@erebostd can you also share why please
@@subbiahpalani The I4 by leaps and bounds look up the I-4 40 its an amzing car
@@LowOnCash but it's so ugly and also not a ground up ev so there are space issues
Can you retest Ioniq 5 or Ev6 with the newly added battery pre-condition? I heard it will always charge 10-80% in 18 minutes dispite the temperature below the optimal condition.
Pre conditioning is only on the 2023 models, which wile that’s great, really HOSES 2022 owners with promised software updates that were supposed to be very significant
I think the Ioniqs with the eco pack will get the precon update, not the models without...at least in the UK
@@chrischild3667 It’s Just dumb imo that a simple software update is locked behind a new model year car. Nissan is guilty of it with the Frontiers OS with built in Wi-Fi, you need to get a 2023 model to get wireless apple CarPlay. Toyota/Lexus hiding android auto/apple carplay behind new model years such as 2020 vs 2021 models etc. just silly bs. If anyone learns anything, take the firmware and OTAs seriously like tesla has and your car will be better for it in every way, even if it eliminates a touch of overhead
@@Wasssup3232 I agree. It's completely unacceptable in 2022 how auto software + firmware is so inflexible in the industry. I actually suspect the software isn't that inflexible in most cases, the manufacturers are probably just using it as an excuse to push people to newer/high specc'd models.
In some cases some of the software does rely on hardware components being specc'd when ordered. But in other cases manufacturers are quite happy to install hardware and then switch off functionality so that you can then subscribe later and switch it on, for a price - my Audi has matrix headlights installed but I have to pay a monthly fee to subscribe to them! Madness.
@@chrischild3667 I hope everyone boycotts software locked Hardware options. I didn’t know Audi tries to charge you twice, once for the headlight module and a second time to use them. It’s like the EQS SUV having a 1000 a year subscription to get 10 degrees of rear steering angle instead of the base 4 degrees. Stuff like that should be illegal tbh
just an idea for a test: Consumption with low and high tyre pressure.
That’s exactly why I went with a Tesla 3 Lr instead of a glb 2.5 years ago.
The base is at ok price and as soon as you want any basic options you are used to in a Ford or Hyundai you reach +20k!
ich finde es absolut lustig, wenn du deutsch sprichst
How to know it is not the BMW? Has blinkers:)
75k euro for base configuration...well, it is too much anyway for a car.
66.402€ base configuration for the EQE 300 in Germany
Base configuration cost 58500 Euro in Norway. (602000 NOK) You can get 5% discount
@@lpdude2005 It is hard to compare configuration because they tend to be different per country what you get in base configuration. Price I listed is from Slovakia.
@@jur9103 Yes. Different taxes in all countries. In Norway is no tax og VAT for elektric cars
@@lpdude2005 no VAT for electric is cool. Here we have 20%
How is this EQE compared to basic bmw i4 in terms of range?
I think they should have similar range. BMW was tested in summer, at 18C with summer tires. EQE is tested with winter tires at 9C
Is the MG4 on your list for future testing?
Yes
@@bjornnyland Hell yes! I'm currently waiting to testdrive one myself at the dealership.
These Stuttgart boys really know how to milk their customers haha
At least we have blinkers 😂
OMG! 😱 No seat ventilation? No hyper screen? No seat massage? No double glass windows? How did you survive…
Perfect, a poor man's Mercedes for 85000 EUR. Tip: A used one is even cheaper 🙂
why use comfort mode? i think you should choose eco mode to test!
Heater too stingy in eco mode.
Hi Björn, very good video and exactly my thought: for me the EQE is too expensive for what it is, because the lower trim is for me too little performance for the price. The EQS is an awsome car if one can afford it, the EQE did not convince me when I tried it myself.
Why you had't like drive EQE? Thank you
@@tiagocarvalho983 For me, it feels like a considerably smaller version of the EQS. So the things that I personally do not like so much in the EQS appear here as well (especially the shape which to me is just not sexy, and in particular the ridiculous policy to close the hood for the client and anyway not to have a frunk); in addition, it has a pretty small trunk and by far not the performance I get from a MUCH cheaper Model 3 LR. It clearly does not compete with the Model 3 LR in terms of real price range, that is much closer or identical to the Model S LR (not the plaid obviously) and then it is even farer behind regarding performance.
When driving it it also felt considerably less nippy than even my Model 3 LR (not surprisingly since the lower spec versions have considerably less power).
Of course it has other stuff which is better than in a Tesla (HUD, seats etc) but I simply did not consider it worth the money. Just looking a bit at the add on list and you easily jump far beyond 100.000 € which is to me anyway out of a reasonable range for a car and especially that one.
But that is all very personal. For many, it might be the ideal car. Since we all have very different interests and needs. So you should try yourself, maybe it is for you!
Just dirty Tesla propaganda
@@sk.43821 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂
@@tesla-spectre 🤡🤪
i have an an EQE since 2 weeks, E300 but with premium package..... inside pretty much (almost) like an EQS with some extras. Some 80k€ Gross, but via Company and german subsidization now down to 62k€ Net. For me a perfect deal and topping my expectations.. Range with my driving style in area which is mostly 120kmh limited...around 500 or more in summer. What do I need more...
I also decided to go with EQE300 and put the difference from EQE350 4Matic into more equipment. Sounds like i am not going to regret that choice.
still waiting for that Renault e tech test Bjorn...
Still waiting for that car from Renault to lend me...
You could have give him a wash beforehand 😉
we in Turkey give over 100.000 euros to just mercedes c class 1.600cc and 150.000 euros to eqe300...
This is the Taxi version......
You have such an infectuous personality Bjørn, we have to give it to you as you got us all making comments in Deutsch 🤣🎉🎉🎉
Bjørn, can you show more normal priced cars on the channel again? It's all turned into expensive EVs channel recently... Some cars retested x number of times while cheaper EVs that are out are missing...
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@@bjornnyland thank you, ofc I have seen new Niro EV videos... One out of the last 20 tested cars that can be called affordable...
It's what manufacturers are releasing, just chill.
@@bjornnyland What about the newer ones ? The MG4, the Megane Etech ?
@@pxidr Think he tries to get all the cars he can :)
As a grown-up, you can’t sit normal in the rear seat, that is a no go for me… hope it’s better in the SUV
Bjorn whatever happened to German ingenuity solid built
The last car MB built that was made to last a long time was the W124 Chassis. It ended production in the 1990ties.😁
I think there is a simple solution to understand why the consumption of a "legacy" auto maker appears higher than what is the case of Tesla. From what I have seen from a Tesla owner, Tesla is only reporting the consumption when the car is not stationary, and I am not sure it adds the consumption for heating and cooling to the overall consumption
Tesla also counts heater and everything else. Many people simply can't believe that Teslas are so efficient so they make up false claims.
@@bjornnyland thanks for the clarification. I am very curious if you will get in the near future a model y long range from Giga Berlin. I heard it is very different to the original long range.
I think I may have seen where that suspicion came from. From what has been reported it's the total energy IN at the charger that's a bit skewed with the Tesla. More of the energy is put into BMS processes compared to other manufacturers (Battery Life has a video on this). So to charge a Tesla up may consume more energy (around 10-15%) in total than, what is added as driving energy. But that may no longer be the case due to VW/Skoda's recent models like ID4, ID5 and Enyaq sucking lots of power for BMS processes too (as seen in Bjørns vids).
It sounds like Go Hard Or Go Home. Go hard with the EQS top range. Or Go home with the basic EQE. Going home seems like better value for money.
Winter nordic friction tyres will have a lower rolling resistance than a comparable summer tyre.
Depends on the temperature doesn't it? In cold weather they should have higher resistance than summer tires. Otherwise they wouldn't be winter tires if they weren't softer than summer tires in cold weather.
@@wudruffwildcard252 that's the logical take but for some reason everything else being equal, car's consumption is less with nordic friction tyres.
İ think the BottleNeck is the speedlimits and charging speeds and charger availability. Not the humans...
No rearwheel steering, "just" one motor, "tiny" screen, so cheep, so sad :D
Mercedes should just be called "PayExtra Corp"
...even for poor people😍
I would rather buy an EQE because it is not as big as the EQS.
In other words there's too much overlap between the ranges
The best efficient tesla is M3 SR
What language is that !!!
price next time in euro please
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That car has 4 USB C chargers in the front and 2 in the rear, plus 1 wireless charging pad...I'm sure you can find a way lol
Ridiculous price.
Wait! 70k and you don't get a usb to charge your phone?!!
It is ridiculous to say this is a poor man’s Benz. And I am a software executive in Silicon Valley with two Teslas in my garage, looking to replace my Model S with either a Taycan/EQE/I-5 electric car.
EQE always looks cheap to me in any grade. The design is dated yet frumpy at the same time.. the front always remind me of Honda Civic hatch several gen ago
the 2008 sedan one?
I agree looks like a hold Toyota or Honda . Only the back is kinda ok.
Looks like 9 gen Civic.
Lol GL paying for that in the PH lmao haha bet you wont have the downpayment for it. It's around 6M Php in the PH
2,5 tonnes wtf
paying out your ass😢
Check TOGG bro, this is EV from Türkiye 🇹🇷
With built-in BMS timer soon after warranty is over, end of fun. So no, I don’t wann spend 70+k EUR for a base model and after 4 years the car is worth nothing. Thanks bit no thanks Mercedes.
4 years and the car is worth nothing? Warranty is longer than that my dude.
@@Hyrppa95 Nope, since driving the car for 40k km/year. At least in Europe, battery warranty is 160k km only.
@@lbtobl83 wrong! The battery warranty is 10 years/250.000km
@@mortenbh great that they finally extended it. Many EQC/EQV horror stories…
EQE does not make much sense. No Hatch, no Stationwagon .... Too much money for a useless car.
First here !
Poor man’s? Hello 1950s. There are a lot of Mercedes bought by women.