Oliver 1850 Steering box removal
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2024
- Here we try to remove the steering box on the Oliver 1850. It’s a struggle as usual
I’m Ross aka “The Oliver Man”. I farm with Oliver and White tractors here in beautiful Southern IN. I have over 30 Oliver and White Tractors in my collection (plus a few other colors). Please Like and Subscribe for more Oliver and White Videos!
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Just a tip for anyone working on that steering cylinder. Before removing the top cap, remove the Allen head plug in the middle of the cap. That relieves the suction on the underside and makes removal easier without the possibility of breaking off the edges of the cap.
Watching you reminds me of all the fun I had when I switched from a narrow front to a wide front on my 1850, All the joys of figuring out what has to come apart to do this the easy way ! I ended up taking the crank dampener off and found out it has shims behind it so it went back together the same way. I did take the grill off to make this a lot easer to work on , Just dont forget to put a quad seal in or like me you get to do it all over again ! LOL We do it right cause we do it twice ! LOL Bandit
I thought you would make the trip to supervise Ross with this with all of your expertise 😁
Lol, I actually re-watched your video to try to see what you had done, but then, when you drop the front end away from underneath, I thought there’s no way I’m doing that 🤣
Much fun along the way there Ross
@@rosstheoliverman I tried to take that bolt and arm off that hold the steering box to the frame but it would not budge ! 50 plus years of rust holding it in place it wasnt going to mover so I went to plan B ! The narrow front had to come out and when you work by yourself well you just get the job done somehow and call it good. After taking the 9 bolts out of the balancer and taking it off the steering box came out easy. Why I forgot about the quad seal I'll never know but I did and got to take it all back apart to put it in. When your short the proper tools or equipment well you just get creative in how you do things and it can get a little sketchy but you make it work to get the job done. Thank God I have a skid steer to use cause it comes in mighty handy when working on a tractor by yourself ! LOL That about the 10th wide front I've changed on Oliver tractors but I will say an 1850 is a little different to do one, But pulling the grill and radiator off makes it a lot easer to do thats for sure. I think every 1850 I've seen has had the steel line fixed or replaced with a hose cause they all brake the fitting or line at the steering box. It never brakes the other side its always the right side at the box. I looked at the steel line and it had 2 other spots ware it was brazed from rubbing on the frame so with those plus the broken line at the fitting I put a hose on it and there is no good way to run one ether ! Bandit
@@burrridgefarms Well if he told me he was going to do this I would have come over and gave him a hand with it and maybe another 50W wobble pop ! LOL Bandit
Ross I know you have a billion things to do. But every time you make a video in that shed. I see that mounted picker and think how cool it would be. If you made a series of videos going over it and servicing it. Then mounting it on the 1650 or 1655 and picking with it. Maybe you did all that years ago and I’ve not seen the videos. But it would be awesome this fall. Thanks for all your videos
I want to get that picker out someday I just need to really find another tractor to mount it on permanently.
😂 wow so many cans of brake cleaner on the ground lmao
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I’m behind again. Good video
Thank you!
That went from oil pan change to way more sadness quick,😂😂. I'm sure he will be happy when it's complete like it's supposed to be. Thanks for the video. See you later.
Another good video. Keep them coming.
Thanks!
My Dad always said ' If you do something, do it right or don't do at all '!
Another nice video Ross. I appreciate all of the detail you go into on these repairs. Your a good man Ross. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks Keith!
Not hard to see why dealer mechanics have training sessions when new/upgraded models become part of their knowledge base. Sadly a goodly number of mechanics from this era of machinery have gone to the great beyond, leaving a void in dealing with remove/reinstall situations. Keep chuggin' Ross...you'll win the 1850 battle!!!
The 1850 with the Perkins diesel had a lot of quirks like you are experiencing. Charge on McDuff, the enemy is time and money and you only win when you either are the richest man in the world or you are homeless and living on the streets. Today's job is replacing the gaskets on the exhaust headers on the ZTR. My hands are leaking red stuff in several places. I now understand why the old man in the shop was always bleeding. Old skin on the backs of hands that have been at war with time and tight places tends to spring a leak when in contact with even smooth surfaces.
You should change it like I do, the other day my muffler fell off the ZTR 🤣 I guess it’s time for some glass packs!
@@rosstheoliverman On the 85 Honda Big Red, I made a square tube exhaust pipe an put a 12 hp garden tractor muffler on the end. It has another plus and that is the back pressure keeps the engine from over revving. Worked great when the grandkids were young. A friend was crying about the cost of an exhaust system for his side by side. He saw the garden tractor muffler and went home an put one on his unit. $20 fix for a $400 replacement.
I got the exhaust back on and tightened up. I always had trouble with those gaskets walking around when putting exhaust manifolds and etc. on things. Today I solved that problem. I super glued them into place and they never moved out of position while working things around. Then during a tune up I dropped a sparkplug (was reusing the ones in it as they were in great shape) and broke the porcelain. Going to be a 20 mile drive for 2 plugs. Got to get it going as the grass is way overgrown. Need to cultivate the garden because the rains we have gotten has sprouted grass in the rows. Sure wish I could have found a small amount of Treflan. It worked great in the gardens years ago.
As Bob Hope would say Thanks for the memories . It's amazing how one project can lead to so many other issues.
Thanks Dennis!
Ross, the other day I heard that John Deere is giving the good old farmers and the USA. A Dear John letter and moving everything out and down to Mexico. I guess that will fix the Border Crisis. That was from Steve Popular Report.
Yeah, I saw that too. Pretty sad.
Looks like lots of fun, be safe.
Ross, looks like you was riding that struggle bus on overtime 🤣🤣🤣 thanks Michael
My oldest son looked into getting an Oliver tractor, I can't remember the model, but he didn't because of some advice from a person who works on them, telling him that it's hard to get parts. My White has that issue too, but I bought it back about 20 years ago when parts were still available. My youngest son and I have worked on my White's steering box a couple of times, so I can understand what you're saying about how the steering box is pinned. Good luck with the rest of the repair on the Oliver 1850. Have a nice day!
Thanks! There’s a lot of parts available for many of the models but there’s a few that are harder to get parts for. The 1450 for example has not got a lot of stuff readily available.
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Dirt, Dirt everywhere and mingled with oil to boot. Will Ross ever get her clean with spray and willpower and of course those animal sounds. Thanks for sharing.
Sorry about the ongoing struggle but the end results will be worth the extra work!
Hope get done
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well you made it easy to get the oil pan bolted back into place
Yes! I put it on last night, it was much easier
Nice video Ross
Thanks!
I had to replace the steering box on my 2-155 because the housing broke in half
I’ve seen that happen before.
Ross I bought a tractor and the loader that use to be on it. They had.the loader oil supply coming from the remote hook ups to the loader spool valve. What a night mare!!! The manufacturer sells the fittings to plumb it into the tractor. I have the remotes open!!!
I have my loader plumbed into power beyond, and that works a lot nicer I think, but it is more work to set it up.
Your welcome for the reminder about the fan. 😁 Greasy and hot are not a good combination for ones attitude for sure. I wonder if the 2-85 and 2-105 have the same clearance issues too.
Kudos Ross - I could not get mine out of my 1800 without removing my feather lite grill.
Can you recommend a good hernia surgeon?
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That fluid damper was over kill. I guess they thought that 6-354 bolted solid to the cast tub would be a problem. MF used that engine as a stressed frame member (heavier reinforced block) with no problems and no damper .With the way the front mount extended the overhang of the pully and dampner it caused a lot of crankshaft spline faliures with that wedge assembly. I had weak splines on mine on overhaul disguarded the damper and used loctite liquid metal. Ben over 1000 hrs no vibration no problems.
Watching your videos makes me want to trade my David Brown 1200 in for an Oliver :)
One thing, you will not run out of things to do ! lol.
Can’t go wrong with an Oliver!
Neighbor has a 990, it's not pretty but it is capable and easy to use
@@landontesar3070 yes same with my 1200 it's a great tractor too.
Of Course!
I like using a hot pressure washer to clean up crud but I've pressure washed until the cows came home and as soon as you pull stuff apart you uncover another cruddy mess
What a struggle you are the man.
Hello from Tasmania. I’m about to remove the water pump from my.1945 Oliver 80 it needs new gland packing. Can anybody give me any advice on doing this,what size packing will I need? And what size fan belt? Thanks Kerry.
Just another Knutson moment or project !
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At least the camera has good audio. Around 15:00 minutes it sounded like a danged wren flew into my garage!
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The Bandit just did one I think he pulled the damper off
Yeah, I knew as soon as I took that damper off I’d open up a can of worms
@@rosstheolivermanmaybe I'm remembering it wrong, I thought it was the 9 bolts and the damper came off the hub.
@@ThatOliverGuyChrisI’m sure that would do it as well, but the more I looked at those bolts, the more I could envision that they would twist off. So I thought I’d try it without taking any more stuff off than necessary.
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#1 comment... Woot🎉 love your vids man!
Awesome!
I hope you didn't skin your knuckles too much..... Looks like it was a (blip bloop) of a job!!
🤣 Thanks!
Ok ,it’s now the 5 th July,and I just took a measurement of temperature, and right on my front porch in the shade, it 110 * and 20 feet out from that point it is 133* in the sun in the sand, ,it’s hot, it’s time for summer hibernation, night time is the best time to work , p.s. and you want to know a little Secret that grace knows, in the last days the temperature will be so hot, all humans wil e working at night ,or not working at all,and just waiting for the coming of the end it will be at that time 150 * God will be coming soon.
You need a concrete floor to work on!