Theyy say don’t buy a new car, because it deprecates at least 30%. Well theyy are wrong, because many used cars are still the same price years later. Lower cost is based on high miles..
No turbo, no cylinder deactivation, no 8 9 or 10spd trans, no annoying stop/start, no digital dash or HVAC controls.. This equals reliability that will run forever..
I had a 10 speed 2021 f150 it down shifted in traffic so hard I thought I hit something Ford was like yeah thats normal. I got rid of it for several reasons.
@@kennethb6211 I've had 2 F150's, a 21 lariat, and a 22 lariat, never had any such issue. They definitely screwed you over by telling you it's normal.
7:25 You nailed it. You absolutely have enjoy being chilled driving a 4Runner. I put some tunes on, and just enjoy my high, comfortable driving position and visibility. On the road, I drive it like a grandma. Don't bother trying to be first off the line, don't worry about being passed. Just chill and enjoy a quiet cabin and a bombproof rig.
Great review as always! I was interested on upgrading my 2023 4runner when they started teasing the new generation, but after seeing the disaster that they are having to deal with on the new Tacomas I will more than happily hold on to my car. No FOMO when the issues are never ending on the new gens!
Magnuson supercharge is a game changer for this suv. For the price of the new 4cyl garbage coming out you could build up a bad ass 4runner that will last forever.
I have a 2022 Off-Road Premium. $49,500 msrp most reliable truck I have ever had. Ive had every truck from the big 3.. This truck is overbuilt and dead reliable. Buy one!!
Yes, bought a ‘24 TRD Pro 4Runner in Terra 5/11 and I am planning on keeping it. As solid a vehicle as you will find because it’s old school Toyota. Bought my first Toyota, new in ‘83, so I am a fan.
@@mariamarcolongo671Cool. Same 4Runner, same color on the same day. Congratulations! Getting one of the last 5th generation TRD Pro 4Runners may be as good a move as buying the last model year for the FJ Cruiser and having it in the ‘24 TRD Pro color can’t hurt either - we will see. Same drivetrain as the FJ with a manual transfer case that is going away in the 2025 4Runner. Yeah, they’re great vehicles, but they are old school for better or worse. I would love the infotainment screen to have better resolution and better MPG would be a plus. But, I bought it with longevity in mind. We keep our Toyotas for years. I’m still driving a 1999 V6 Tacoma Pre-Runner purchased new - 148K miles. Just had it serviced and my mechanic says it’s in pristine shape.
Add me as a third, I picked up my Terra last month. Traded a manual 22 TRD OR Tacoma I swore I wouldn’t sell to snag it. I miss having the bed and rowing my own gears, but that’s about it. Probably the only vehicle I’ve purchased as a “long term investment”
One other way to get better acceleration and not have slow gear shifts or gear hunting is just to put the stick down a notch into manual. I grew up driving standards in the 80s. I never thought about having a Toyota that was automatic. I didn't need it and didn't want to pay for it. When I was on a trip to NC recently to hike I just used it in the manual shift mode. Super easy. A no brainer to operate and no clutching. It was always in the gear I needed for the terrain I was on.
Knew there would be pedal commander comments. The acceleration is the way it is so it helps the fuel economy on a 5000lb vehicle. I dont have issues passing or merging out of my 24 TRD Pro. If you need the power, push your foot down further lol. Paying $300 to have the acceleration pedal metaphorically be 2" closer to your foot is crazy. Hell, moving your seat up 2" would do wonders to your throttle response.
When in the middle of nowhere, stuck in sand surrounded by snakes and scorpions sweating from heat, I don't want bills and whistles, I want a very reliable car that can go through tough times, and take me back home with a nice story to tell. This TOYOTA will do the job.
Great video Ben. I owned a 2015 4Runner for several years but it was so gutless I just couldn't take it anymore. Once I loaded up the family and gear I couldn't get the vehicle up over 75 mph! Finally, in 2020 I sold it and my wife and I bought a Lexus GX 460. It is amazing the difference that 4.6L V8 made over the 4.0L V6. Again, the 4Runner is a great vehicle but that old engine just doesn't have the power necessary. Not only can I fully load that GX and it just goes with ease, it actually gets about 2 mpg in city and easily 2-3 mpg better on the highway than my 4Runner did, so it helps offset the premium fuel requirement.
I am/was considering parting with my 22 4Runner TRD Off Road Premium. I just got two bids from Carvana and CarMax that are what I paid for it new two years ago. The fact the depreciation rate of a 4Runner is so low makes it difficult to ever part with it. Whatever I replace it with will likely tank in comparison. In contrast, I could buy a 1 year old Subaru Outback Touring XT with only 8k miles on it, for $9k less than the MSRP new - and that's from a Subaru dealership who typically bloat the prices of used stock.
I love all my Toyotas when I sell them I always make money. Had a 2002 Tacoma TRD new 21k drove it two years and put 25k miles on it took it to the dealer for a 4 runner they gave me 24k! You just can’t go wrong we will see how the new turbo crap goes.
Is the reason my 2018 Tundra 5.7L seems so slow compared to my 2008 with the same engine? When I bought the 2018 I immediately noticed that you have to give it a lot more gas to get the same acceleration
@@Dojo-v6m I am not saying that my 2024 4runner is fast. However, when you get on the throttle it will perform adequately in my opinion. However, the throttle response is very slow. The pedal commander I installed can be set to various levels to get the type of response you want. My mileage went down a little, but compared to the GMC 6.2 l I used to have it is still not bad.
@@Winterfell1066 Gotcha. I always assumed that it was Toyota's way of meeting CAFE standards because it was a dramatic change. When I drive my 2008 after diving the 2018 for awhile, I accidently gun it because the throttle is so much different. I just got a 2024 4Runner and will have to check put the Pedal Commander, thanks
My TRD Pro is an investment plan. Pay down to zero, sell for nearly as much as I bought it for. It’s like I’m taking my car payment and putting it into a savings account for a big down payment on the next. I’m on my second 4Runner. Stupid amounts of equity built up because of resale value.
Problem is the 4cyl turbo will never be as reliable as all the prior v6s and V8s. Look at the new Tacoma’s stacking up at dealers. Huge discounts on them already
@@IzaguirreC Yeah 100% that’s why the 5th gen will increase in value when they aren’t being made anymore. Resale is already great, but once used is your only option the values will go up. The new ones won’t be remotely the same in that regard.
I paid 38k for my 2019 TRD OR new. Dealership bugs me to sell everytine i get service. They offer me almost what I paid for it. I just smile and say no thanks.
That will never happen on a pro. They are mostly gone or called for. Many with markups. The time to get a new pro was like yesterday. Production stopped around june. Might have better luck with a limited.
I’m in the fence to trade my 17 gmc Denali Yukon for a 4Runner , but, scared to go back to having a payment, specifically these days. Besides, I’m not sure what is a reasonable out the door price I should look for on a sr5 premium, or trd off road, maybe premium. Off road premium may be too much , for me. Obviously, I want a 23, or 24; I don’t want a turbocharged anything.
Paid $53k out the door on my new 23 4Runner ORP with the TRD off-road package. The 23 TRD PRO model was $59-$61K before TTL. After all the mods and add-ons I've done over the last year + , my 4Runner is $63K 😂 The stupid part is I looked at a White 24 Tacoma Trailhunter, and it was $73K with a $10K market adjustment 😂😂 Toyota has lost their mind 😂😂
Yall crazy the engine is really not that slow. I drive on the highway everyday during the week. Sure you cannot go over 115 but that is cause there is a governor on it . That stat was from the owners manual not from experience. Bottom line cruises with ease definitely not slow. Not a speed demon either. People act like they are driving a uhual .
Really dramatic people are today. This vehicle is plenty of quick for its size. I even slap it in Smode to shift my first few gears longer and get a quicker throttle response. Of course regular driving on automatic it’s gonna be slower just like every other 5speed auto sports car in the 90s but when you shift it on your own it’s a different beast. Thats what most oversee 😂
Possibly the most reliable/boring on road vehicle ever made. Go off road and just epic Every time I see a 4Runner with larger tires… My God this thing can not get out of its own way. Just like building wealth Slow and steady boring
@@billyfasdfasf7149 Then get a different vehicle. Paying 30k for a 100k miles is just a dumb financial decision. You can get a lightly used Camry or Rav4 for 22-24k, for example.
They have a high resale value NOT because they are the best car...because there are people and loyalists willing to buy them. I drove a Land Cruiser GXR V8 2019 as a rental and it shook at speeds closer to 120 km/h...4runners are similar. LET the critics roast me...WILL NOT CHANGE A THING.
10+ years ago it seems a 6 year old toyota is 50-60% off new price... Today it seems a 10 year old toyota could only be 50% off from new price... I guess demand and "inflation" of todays dollars compared to the old retail price dollars of 10 years ago isn't an apples-to-apples comparison anymore unfortunately.
Not only did toyota go for 4 cylinders turbo charged engine, but they increased the price too. Which does not make any sense at all. So basically, they want to sell junk for more money.
I was thinking the same it doesn't reflect the price of the 4runner it reflects the fact new cars aren't available or aren't selling. Used car market is still crazy
I'm less worried about the 2.4T engine than I am about transmissions made of glass and non-existent quality control at the two assembly plants. Assembly plants where workers don't care and turnover is very high because Toyota is paying $2.70/hour slave wages. Made worse by insanely-high sticker prices.
A Toyota 4 cylinder that’s going to blow it self up??. Obviously you are as smart as a Toyota engineer 👷. This was a click bait style video. You hate and then go buy the vehicle 🚗 😂
Toyota was forced to make a big leap all at once because they waited almost 15 years to update the 4Runner. If they had done gradual upgrades over the last decade, like every other manufacturer, they wouldn’t have been in this position. Not only was the powertrain and transmission extremely out of date, so was basically all of the other tech in the vehicle from the infotainment center to the body style. Toyota deserves all of the issues they are facing now. They sold an antiquated vehicle to customers for years because their greed overwhelmed their innovation. Now they get to suffer the consequences.
Great! At this rate, I can drive my TRD pro for 10 years and get all $56,000 back out of it!
I owned my 2000 4Runner for 20 years before I sold it.
Theyy say don’t buy a new car, because it deprecates at least 30%. Well theyy are wrong, because many used cars are still the same price years later. Lower cost is based on high miles..
I’m getting a new pro next week, money in the bank😊
No turbo, no cylinder deactivation, no 8 9 or 10spd trans, no annoying stop/start, no digital dash or HVAC controls.. This equals reliability that will run forever..
I had a 10 speed 2021 f150 it down shifted in traffic so hard I thought I hit something Ford was like yeah thats normal. I got rid of it for several reasons.
@@kennethb6211 I've had 2 F150's, a 21 lariat, and a 22 lariat, never had any such issue. They definitely screwed you over by telling you it's normal.
@thomasmulligan9253 exactly my point. That isn't normal
@@thomasmulligan9253 That's called anecdotal evidence. There's thousands and thousands of F150's that have reached 250k+ miles without issue.
@@GBcommander He never say it wasn't anecdotal evidence, Kenneth and Dyaus were sharing their experience and he shared his.
7:25 You nailed it. You absolutely have enjoy being chilled driving a 4Runner. I put some tunes on, and just enjoy my high, comfortable driving position and visibility. On the road, I drive it like a grandma. Don't bother trying to be first off the line, don't worry about being passed. Just chill and enjoy a quiet cabin and a bombproof rig.
Great review as always! I was interested on upgrading my 2023 4runner when they started teasing the new generation, but after seeing the disaster that they are having to deal with on the new Tacomas I will more than happily hold on to my car. No FOMO when the issues are never ending on the new gens!
Magnuson supercharge is a game changer for this suv. For the price of the new 4cyl garbage coming out you could build up a bad ass 4runner that will last forever.
I have a 2022 Off-Road Premium. $49,500 msrp most reliable truck I have ever had. Ive had every truck from the big 3.. This truck is overbuilt and dead reliable. Buy one!!
@@forte2359 back in 2022 the MSRP for a TRD ORP was actually only $44,880
They are essentially free cars.
Yes, bought a ‘24 TRD Pro 4Runner in Terra 5/11 and I am planning on keeping it. As solid a vehicle as you will find because it’s old school Toyota. Bought my first Toyota, new in ‘83, so I am a fan.
When I read your comment I had to say Hi...I bought the 24' Terra on 5/11 as well. I love most everything about it.
@@mariamarcolongo671Cool. Same 4Runner, same color on the same day. Congratulations! Getting one of the last 5th generation TRD Pro 4Runners may be as good a move as buying the last model year for the FJ Cruiser and having it in the ‘24 TRD Pro color can’t hurt either - we will see. Same drivetrain as the FJ with a manual transfer case that is going away in the 2025 4Runner.
Yeah, they’re great vehicles, but they are old school for better or worse. I would love the infotainment screen to have better resolution and better MPG would be a plus. But, I bought it with longevity in mind. We keep our Toyotas for years. I’m still driving a 1999 V6 Tacoma Pre-Runner purchased new - 148K miles. Just had it serviced and my mechanic says it’s in pristine shape.
Add me as a third, I picked up my Terra last month. Traded a manual 22 TRD OR Tacoma I swore I wouldn’t sell to snag it. I miss having the bed and rowing my own gears, but that’s about it. Probably the only vehicle I’ve purchased as a “long term investment”
One other way to get better acceleration and not have slow gear shifts or gear hunting is just to put the stick down a notch into manual. I grew up driving standards in the 80s. I never thought about having a Toyota that was automatic. I didn't need it and didn't want to pay for it. When I was on a trip to NC recently to hike I just used it in the manual shift mode. Super easy. A no brainer to operate and no clutching. It was always in the gear I needed for the terrain I was on.
Knew there would be pedal commander comments. The acceleration is the way it is so it helps the fuel economy on a 5000lb vehicle. I dont have issues passing or merging out of my 24 TRD Pro. If you need the power, push your foot down further lol. Paying $300 to have the acceleration pedal metaphorically be 2" closer to your foot is crazy. Hell, moving your seat up 2" would do wonders to your throttle response.
When in the middle of nowhere, stuck in sand surrounded by snakes and scorpions sweating from heat, I don't want bills and whistles, I want a very reliable car that can go through tough times, and take me back home with a nice story to tell. This TOYOTA will do the job.
Great video Ben.
I owned a 2015 4Runner for several years but it was so gutless I just couldn't take it anymore. Once I loaded up the family and gear I couldn't get the vehicle up over 75 mph! Finally, in 2020 I sold it and my wife and I bought a Lexus GX 460. It is amazing the difference that 4.6L V8 made over the 4.0L V6. Again, the 4Runner is a great vehicle but that old engine just doesn't have the power necessary.
Not only can I fully load that GX and it just goes with ease, it actually gets about 2 mpg in city and easily 2-3 mpg better on the highway than my 4Runner did, so it helps offset the premium fuel requirement.
That is the result of having a LARGE 🤢 family.
Wise move. I sold my 2018 4Runner because it was too slow, had terrible mpg, and handled like a truck from the 1960's. I loved the interior, though.
I am/was considering parting with my 22 4Runner TRD Off Road Premium. I just got two bids from Carvana and CarMax that are what I paid for it new two years ago. The fact the depreciation rate of a 4Runner is so low makes it difficult to ever part with it. Whatever I replace it with will likely tank in comparison.
In contrast, I could buy a 1 year old Subaru Outback Touring XT with only 8k miles on it, for $9k less than the MSRP new - and that's from a Subaru dealership who typically bloat the prices of used stock.
I love all my Toyotas when I sell them I always make money. Had a 2002 Tacoma TRD new 21k drove it two years and put 25k miles on it took it to the dealer for a 4 runner they gave me 24k! You just can’t go wrong we will see how the new turbo crap goes.
Amen to the “Just keep it.” advice. However you can get these to do consistent fast lane duty. Your mileage will suffer, but…😉
Its not really a lack of power it is the slow throttle response that makes it seems so slow. Add a Pedal Commander and that issue goes away.
Is the reason my 2018 Tundra 5.7L seems so slow compared to my 2008 with the same engine? When I bought the 2018 I immediately noticed that you have to give it a lot more gas to get the same acceleration
@@Dojo-v6m I am not saying that my 2024 4runner is fast. However, when you get on the throttle it will perform adequately in my opinion. However, the throttle response is very slow. The pedal commander I installed can be set to various levels to get the type of response you want. My mileage went down a little, but compared to the GMC 6.2 l I used to have it is still not bad.
@@Winterfell1066 Gotcha. I always assumed that it was Toyota's way of meeting CAFE standards because it was a dramatic change. When I drive my 2008 after diving the 2018 for awhile, I accidently gun it because the throttle is so much different. I just got a 2024 4Runner and will have to check put the Pedal Commander, thanks
given they haven't even produced one yet, how can you say they will be less reliable? (in reference to your comments on the 6th gen)
My TRD Pro is an investment plan. Pay down to zero, sell for nearly as much as I bought it for. It’s like I’m taking my car payment and putting it into a savings account for a big down payment on the next. I’m on my second 4Runner. Stupid amounts of equity built up because of resale value.
Problem is the 4cyl turbo will never be as reliable as all the prior v6s and V8s. Look at the new Tacoma’s stacking up at dealers. Huge discounts on them already
@@IzaguirreC Yeah 100% that’s why the 5th gen will increase in value when they aren’t being made anymore. Resale is already great, but once used is your only option the values will go up. The new ones won’t be remotely the same in that regard.
I paid 38k for my 2019 TRD OR new. Dealership bugs me to sell everytine i get service. They offer me almost what I paid for it. I just smile and say no thanks.
My dealership ask me the same thing when I was there last week for oil change. I said sure, for $53K + Customer add-ons and $5K market adjustment.😁 🤣😂
Im ok with slow. I don’t believe that Toyotas struggling
Cool story. Next time don’t smile at them and they won’t ask you again.
Ben is a hard working man !
It's confirmed the new 4runner is pushed back to the spring, at least.
I hope they do a closing model offer. Looking to grab the 2024 TRD Pro or Limited with zero interest.
That will never happen on a pro. They are mostly gone or called for. Many with markups. The time to get a new pro was like yesterday. Production stopped around june. Might have better luck with a limited.
@@burrogts well I will have to hope to find a used one then. Sucks for me. But I still have my 08 Pathfinder.
Install a peddle commander and you will notice the difference
I’m in the fence to trade my 17 gmc Denali Yukon for a 4Runner , but, scared to go back to having a payment, specifically these days. Besides, I’m not sure what is a reasonable out the door price I should look for on a sr5 premium, or trd off road, maybe premium. Off road premium may be too much , for me. Obviously, I want a 23, or 24; I don’t want a turbocharged anything.
Sick!...Nobody want EXPENSIVE 4-cylinder turbo nonsense!
Fifth Gen for life!!!
Yeah not a big fan of the industry push to smaller displacement turbo engines...just don't see how this will improve long term reliabilitiy.
i bought a '22 Pro with 27000 miles on it for 50Kusd with a trade in. It was listed for 52,999 USD. But I got it on Aug 31.
Where is this? Scenery is beautiful!
great car.. but needed that refresh badly
Paid $53k out the door on my new 23 4Runner ORP with the TRD off-road package. The 23 TRD PRO model was $59-$61K before TTL.
After all the mods and add-ons I've done over the last year + , my 4Runner is $63K 😂
The stupid part is I looked at a White 24 Tacoma Trailhunter, and it was $73K with a $10K market adjustment 😂😂 Toyota has lost their mind 😂😂
Exactly! I seen used black sequoia 2024 cost like $91k... damn!
Yeah, and they are also pricey
The best cars for resale value!!!! These things just run!
yep. toyotax 4runner owners and sellers have no shame. the asking price for old and high mileage 4runner is 80-90% from its original price.
Most abrupt ending to a video.. dude was just trying to get through these videos man😂😂
Yall crazy the engine is really not that slow. I drive on the highway everyday during the week. Sure you cannot go over 115 but that is cause there is a governor on it . That stat was from the owners manual not from experience. Bottom line cruises with ease definitely not slow. Not a speed demon either. People act like they are driving a uhual .
Really dramatic people are today. This vehicle is plenty of quick for its size. I even slap it in Smode to shift my first few gears longer and get a quicker throttle response. Of course regular driving on automatic it’s gonna be slower just like every other 5speed auto sports car in the 90s but when you shift it on your own it’s a different beast. Thats what most oversee 😂
Possibly the most reliable/boring on road vehicle ever made.
Go off road and just epic
Every time I see a 4Runner with larger tires…
My God this thing can not get out of its own way.
Just like building wealth
Slow and steady boring
Yeah yeah get out the way with latte
Which shmuck will buy this 2022 used over a new or used 2024 for over $50k and higher interest rates. 😂
I see it a lot actually. People buying 2015's with over 100k miles for 30k. Even if it's reliable, that's just stupid lol.
@@GBcommandermaybe because some people don’t have another $20k to buy a vehicle?
@@billyfasdfasf7149 Then get a different vehicle. Paying 30k for a 100k miles is just a dumb financial decision. You can get a lightly used Camry or Rav4 for 22-24k, for example.
Unless you try trading something in with Toyota they won't give you nothing close to what you paid
They have a high resale value NOT because they are the best car...because there are people and loyalists willing to buy them. I drove a Land Cruiser GXR V8 2019 as a rental and it shook at speeds closer to 120 km/h...4runners are similar. LET the critics roast me...WILL NOT CHANGE A THING.
10+ years ago it seems a 6 year old toyota is 50-60% off new price...
Today it seems a 10 year old toyota could only be 50% off from new price...
I guess demand and "inflation" of todays dollars compared to the old retail price dollars of 10 years ago isn't an apples-to-apples comparison anymore unfortunately.
i love my 2024 trd pro its super slow but the quality and reliabilty is insane
Black in color, no thank ya! 🤠
Not only did toyota go for 4 cylinders turbo charged engine, but they increased the price too. Which does not make any sense at all. So basically, they want to sell junk for more money.
What year is your land cruiser?
2020
@@BenHardyCars thanks for applying. I really enjoy your videos. Thank you.
Toyota 4 runner looks good for a suv
Used car prices in general are inflated still
I was thinking the same it doesn't reflect the price of the 4runner it reflects the fact new cars aren't available or aren't selling. Used car market is still crazy
your name sounds like a dealership name like : Hardy Toyota or Hardy Chevrolette
Hahaah
and it runs on piss gas so 25% discount for me vs my cayenne
I traded in my 2023 1794 Tundra for a 2024 TRD Pro 4Runner. Best choice I could have made. The new Toyotas are absolute trash.
2022 Toyota 4Runner TRD PRO 4.0L V6 5-Speed Automatic 4X4!
Vc não pode esse carro tá usado
its only stupid if youre the one buying
Newer Toyotas are NOT the same unfortunately....
you get a better price with ugly colors like lime rush
It’s because the new ones suck
I'm less worried about the 2.4T engine than I am about transmissions made of glass and non-existent quality control at the two assembly plants. Assembly plants where workers don't care and turnover is very high because Toyota is paying $2.70/hour slave wages. Made worse by insanely-high sticker prices.
He is clueless 😂
lol get 😂a haircut 💇♂️
A Toyota 4 cylinder that’s going to blow it self up??. Obviously you are as smart as a Toyota engineer 👷. This was a click bait style video. You hate and then go buy the vehicle 🚗 😂
Mpg horrible
Toyota was forced to make a big leap all at once because they waited almost 15 years to update the 4Runner. If they had done gradual upgrades over the last decade, like every other manufacturer, they wouldn’t have been in this position. Not only was the powertrain and transmission extremely out of date, so was basically all of the other tech in the vehicle from the infotainment center to the body style. Toyota deserves all of the issues they are facing now. They sold an antiquated vehicle to customers for years because their greed overwhelmed their innovation. Now they get to suffer the consequences.
All you you millenial types alway except everything to be cheap and affordable, well guess what it's not. Get used to it.