SHOULD A PERSON BUY A 2025 TOYOTA 4 RUNNER, I SAY NO, IF YOU WANT ONE THEN BUY A USED ONE WITH A 4.0L V6 BECAUSE AFTER 2024 TOYOTA IS NOT GOING TO MAKE THE 4.0L V6 ANYMORE, IN 2025 ALL TOYOTA 4 RUNNERS ARE GOING TO BE TURBO 4 CYLINDER.
I just did my 5,0000 mile service on my TRD off road premium. I paid for an oil change, I just can’t get on board with the 10,000 mile interval. I do miss my V8 2016 tundra, but she’s growing on me.
Don’t wait and do the 10K oil change. The first couple of oil changes with a new vehicle are the most important. I typically change my new vehicles oil at 500 miles. Then another one at 2,000 miles and a third at 5,000 miles. Then I do oil changes every 5,000 miles from that point on.
@@Jason-Samko fair but the point is I paid $40k for my 2022 new, and if someone offered me $40k for it next year I’d have to say no because the 2025 will most likely cost me $50k. $10k to “upgrade” to a 4 banger.
Man, Jason I wish I had an uncle like you that lived nearby who I could come over pick his brain and learn from hands on. A lot of the videos you post concerning specific problems with solution/ thought process are exactly the questions and things I am interested in. This is coming from a 1st generation American who never had anyone to teach him any practical/ mechanical skills in life. Just a word of thanks and encouragement to keep posting on the topics that you do; you never know who you are helping and encouraging. Keep up the good work Unc!
Great job on breaking it all down, i have a 2016 4runner trail with kdss, and I can not imagine having anything else. This truck still looks as good as the first day i bought her. Maybe even better since I've decked it out for overlandding. I've done a lot of camping trips with her, and yet i I'm still able to keep her looking newish. Japan knew exactly what they were doing when they built the 4runnner and the GX. I only wished that they would have come out with a better looking 6th gen. Love my 5th gen.
I love our 2 5th gens, Toyota would have an absolute all star if they would have just done a body and interior change and left the drivetrain alone. Part of the draw for me is the reliability which I don’t see staying as good with the newer ones.
The biggest difference on what the values will be between the fj and the 4runner is production numbers. There were only around 200k fjs produced for the US market from 06-14 and there are well over a million 4Runners. Just like everything else supply and demand dictates values.
I like the way you and anyone should think when you acquire or keep a vehicle. This vehicle will always have solid resale vs something else but it is rare air for anyone to make money cherry picking a purchase and holding and maintaining it over 10, 20, 30 years and making a real net return. The best proposition is if someone has $50k cash sitting around you’re better off most say investing that money. Those returns over the same periods are much better than any car. No matter how good or rare.
Found a 2023 CPO ORP in Lunar Rock in January after searching for a while. Had under 7900 miles. I jumped on it and I absolutely love it. Will hand it down to my son.
@@drez8242 It was $43k. The dealer played games and added $2500 for an extended warranty I didn’t want so I cancelled it. Had to drive 4 hours to get it but well worth it. Especially since it was Certified. I really wanted the Lunar Rock color and ORP WITH the sunroof. Only thing I wish it had was the trail camera. Love it though. Quality is unmatched.
I just bought a new 4Runner this afternoon. I’ve done all my research for 6 months now and needed to get my hands on the fifth Gen 4.0 V6 and the used market here in Canada is absolutely pure insanity right now on 4Runners. Picking it up Saturday morning and cannot wait!! It’s like when I was a kid on Xmas Eve.
I picked mine on this past Saturday as well. I am in Toronto and picked it from Ottawa. Flew early morning on Saturday after paying a hefty some for Air Canada flight.
@@deanjohnston4073 used. From Bank Street Toyota. You must have seen that car while browsing. It was base 2018. I liked the fact that it was single owner car with ultra low km (85,000)
I watched several 4Runner videos from the Car Care Nut and Automotive Press before choosing my first 24 Limited 4wd. The only question that will be answered in time is that the 22-24 models increased substantially due to inflation. I suspect that the values on these will drop to align more with the 19-21 model values. While we don’t buy cars as investments, it’s plausible to assume that these will depreciate more.
I just bought mine last week, and it only had 4 miles on it when it was delivered to me. I used a car broker, and it was the easiest transaction I ever had. I didn't even have to mess with a dealership. I bought the SR5 premium because it had the exact features I needed on it. You basically have to take what they have right now, and you can't be super picky about color, etc... mine is white, 4WD, and came with the blackout package and the TRD wheels on it. I also got it for $1,500 under invoice.
I just bought a 2024 SR5 Premium yesterday, and I'm going to pick it up Monday! I can't wait! I originally wasn't planning on purchasing one anytime soon, but I don't like the new body styles on the 6th gens, and I worry about engine performance... Glad I got one while I still could.
I placed deposit on one a couple of weeks back for a TRD Premium that's in transit. There's really not many new ones around and on the lots at least in my area of NC. The dealer had a dozen or so in transit and all of them already ha deposits on except the one I placed a deposit on. I think it's a testament to these vehicles as most people would wait for the new model and the outgoing would be sitting on the lots, but not the case with these. There seems to be a bunch of used ones on the market, but at close to new prices in most cases, or at least with the more desirable packages.
I bought a new '20 SR5 Premium in white...and my wife has a '23 Tacoma TRD Off Road Premium in Lunar Rock. She bought it new right before the '24 Tacomas arrived. I have about 20k miles after 4 years and my wife has 5k miles after 10 months.
@Jason-Samko thank you, I was expecting them to overload it with dealer accessories, as I hear the ones they have won't fit the 2025s so they are getting rid of them at a premium. Thankfully, it was stock aside from some LED interior lights.
I just picked up my new 4Runner TRDORP on Saturday. It made more sense to me to buy a new one as the used hold their value so well that even with 30-40 thousand miles they were only about 5-7k cheaper. I also wanted to know that from day 1 she’d be taken care of and with a used vehicle, you just can’t do that. How was it broken in? What intervals did they change the oil? Did they do regular maintenance? Did they do scheduled maintenance? Too many unknowns for me.
Agree 100%. I've bought 3 used trucks and 37 new ones. I will not buy used again unless it's from someone I know personally. Or unless it's low miles with good history on record. All 3 were 50 to 100k miles and nothing but issues
I’m keeping my 2021 Limited Nightshade edition. It’s my ninth Runner & I’ll never buy anything else. A totally reliable vehicle & they hold their value better than anything on the road.
Let me start by stating I bought & own a 2022 Tundra and because I seen first hand how Toyota cut corner IMO a brutal learning curve. So in January I bought (investment built to last forever!) a new 24’ TRD OffRoad 4 Runner AND I never gave them a second glance before (even they been out forever). My 24’ Runner is garage kept, put on very select mods, on a battery tender waiting for me to retire.
Great choice, I did the same in 23 because I was thinking the last year, proven platform. Love it we retire in 5 years. And I do my own maintenance. It’s my pre retirement vehicle.
@@ruckinehround6965 This quality platform is going away and something much cheaper and much more complex will replace it. When I retire in four years I luv to drive it all over out west maybe even to Alaska (probably never even have a trouble light come on). My one worry someone tries to steal it the older it gets. Not a big fan of Toyota’s labor rates…imagine Toyota tells you they need to take the cab off your truck to fix it $$$$$$.
4runner sells as many in 2 years as the FJ did in 9 years. The price of legacy 4runners isn't going to appreciate but for absolute chaos in 6th gens. Buying one and keeping it crazy low mileage may make it an outlier in 10 years but there are too many on the road for it to appreciate notably
I disagree. I expect the current 4 runner value to jump huge as soon as the 6th gen hits the lots and the 5th gens are are sold out. But time will tell
@@Jason-Samko I'm skeptical. I think it's all tied to bigger macro picture. The 4runner is a legend and it shows in the longevity study that just came out but there are a ton of them on the road. All hinges on how well the new generations end up fairing. An ugly start for sure but lots that could impact in fuel prices, alternate fuel developments (long way to go but lots of runway to prove themselves). Probably fair to say they'll keep depreciating at a slow rate but a smart market knows they're going away and there's no reason to believe prices of them used rise but for actual inflation.
Made the investment decision and went in on a new 24 TRD Pro just last week in Terra. I actually got around 3500 off sticker, so the deals are out there, just be patient, and be willing to drive if you’re in places like SoCal where these go with a dealer markup. Like it so far, only regret was getting rid of my 22 TRD OR Tacoma 6MT to get it. If I could have kept them both, I would have.
@@MMSJ49 got AutoNation in Austin to match an end of month price I had found in Houston. I had started dealing with them about 2 weeks before, going back and forth waiting for the truck to arrive, so it wasn’t a quick process. Coming from shopping around in San Diego, I was admittedly shocked they took the deal.
I bought my wife a new 4runner (pro - lime rush) a couple of years ago. It was her first non mom car in over 20 years. She loves it - she only has 23K miles on it and it is such a solid vehicle. She is thinking about getting a new vehicle but we will probably keep it. I have had several Tacomas - bought a 23 Tacoma (Pro - solar octane) only because I was afraid of the turbo. I put 250k on my 19 Tacoma and it was flawless. As much as I like the Tacomas, the 4runner is in a different league. ** I just bought an 06 4Runner (V8) with only 84K miles...one owner 4x4 Sport. I paid 16K , put on a timing belt, water pump, plugs wires, etc...sold out to my daughter for 10K...it should last her for many, many years.
Whoa 😱 I know they exist, but I've never actually seen a non-Premium 5th-gen 4Runner TRD OR before. They're surprisingly difficult to find info about. I picked up my '24 ORP in Underground new this past February. Stock. The only add-on is the MTM and the cargo liner. $49k OTD in Michigan. I love it. My only two issues are (1) I wish there was more takeoff speed because it's very slow to accelerate, and (2) the backseat folded down aren't flushed because there's like a 3" drop into the trunk space. Unless, if you have the pullout tray. But, aside from those two things, I love it.
I have a 17' ORP, bought in 2019 with 30k miles, I'm at 130k today. Great truck. Super reliable. I've changed all the fluids at 100k. 2 sets of pads and rotors all around, spark plugs and air filters done, also a new battery at 80k. Oil change and drive line lube every 5-7k. Still drives like a beast. Multiple road trips every year with the family. This thing will get to 300k easily.
I test drove a brand new 2024 Land Cruiser FE yesterday morning. For the money, I was not impressed at all. Technology was great. But the ride quality was massively lacking. On my way home later in the day, I saw a 2023 4Runner Limited sitting on the side of the road with a for sale sign in the window. It had 4400 miles on it. Looked absolutely brand new. My wife and I had it out for a test drive within two hours of me spotting it. The ride quality compared to the LC was striking. The 4Runner rode so much better. I was shocked. We thought about it overnight. We made a deal this morning. Pick up scheduled for tomorrow.
My 2004 Toyota 4Runner SR5 V6, I bought in 2019 with 119K miles. Got a steal of a deal because the person thought the rims were flaking off and a scratch on a fender made it not worth as much. I bought it for $7K. Now 164k mile on the odometer no problems just maintenance. , i bought factory refurbished rims on eBay for $425 put on with AT tires. I don’t mind the scratch on the fender added a couple more going down forest service roads. I Have driven across country on vacation several times it’s a Daily driver and not once have needed to add oil between oil changes. Plan on driving to at least 300K miles then selling it for about what I gave. Now I’m saving for that future 5th gen I plan on buying around 2030-2035 when the best deal appears
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. I betting these skyrocket when the new ones hit the lots and the yourubers (myself included) start talking about the prices of the new ones
So glad I dumped the current Tundra for my new and reliable 2024 SR5 Premium. I almost expect when I go in for my service (tires rotation and oil changes that the dealership would want to buy it back. Like my 2021 Tundra during Covid.
I bought a technically new 2023 4Runner Limited with 11K miles from Toyota that was used as a sales rep car. Sold as new, but with $8K off MSRP. Was an awesome buy.
There is two wheel drive, all wheel drive, and the Limited is the only trim with full time 4 wheel drive (and real leather). I bought the 2024 4Runner Limited (Nautical Blue Metallic), $58k out the door, paid cash. The 4Runner is not staying in stock. They sell the minute they hit the dealer. They are definitely near the end of the 5th Gen. Glad to have mine.
Can’t go wrong buying a light used & well maintained 4R or a lexus gx460. Def some of the best vehicles ever made. LC200 or LX570 should be looked @ too if you can afford it! If you’re in a northern climate it’s nice having the full-time 4wd!!
I sold my 2016 4runner sr5 premium about 2 months ago for $25k. It had 65k miles on it and it was in fair condition, some scratches and a dent, interior was pretty rough due to my 3 dogs walking all over everything. I then bought a 2024 4runner limited in the underground color and I couldn't be happier with my choice. I am going above and beyond to take care of this one and am hoping that in 5 years it is still in close to perfect condition and will be worth the original msrp of $53k or more. Especially if inflation continues and the price of a new 4runner that no one wants is 60 something k for similar trim level.
Tina said that about our 23 ted off road too. She said in 15 years we can give it to our grandson. I said no "if 15 years we can sell it for 50k and buy him something less expensive..lol"
I dont doubt that prices will go up with the 5th gen 4Runner and 3rd gen Tacoma. The new ones while they look good are flawed. Suspension issues, 4 cylinder turbo engine that needs lots of field hours to see how reliable is. I got no doubts on the hybrid system as Toyota has been doing it for years, but there is no doubt they cut corners in other specs of the new gens. Toyota Landcruiser 200 series is another one that if you have the money get one while you can.
4Runners at the moment are the only Toyota that is assembled and QC'd in Japan - just be careful about what the pricing shows online - they will add mandatory add-ons then port-installed add-ons and list it as "TSRP". You will need to make lots of calls to find a dealership that is willing to let you drop the port installed options (PIOs). Even with a base model SR5 , tax, title, license, your OTD will be over $50k
@totalnoobfishing1753 current land cruiser is Japan made as well. But your right dealing with toyota add ons and thier stupid allocation only buying sucks
I love my Limited… I know it’s not the TRD off road 4 wheel system but let’s get real… 80% of us are not bouldering. However, the All wheel center diff system is found on the Land Cruiser and Gx460… so it’s pretty fukin awesome.. I’m getting 17” wheels with KO2s for winter or off road adventures… still get me up the mountain!!!
@@Jason-Samko I worked at a toy dealership in 18-20. The majority of 5th gen runner owners, repeat buyers complained about the window controls being on the top of the door card and not lower like the 4th gen. I heard it over and over again. Most said they would go back to the 4th gen that they traded if had the choice. All that time I was looking for the good 5th gen to trade on 4th in on.
I think your right. However, we are in a depression so I think there's more going to be comming to market. Not everything has unwinded yet and intrest rates need to go up or level out. There may be a window of time where vehicles become reasonable b4 going up again. If it's your dream car then there is no wrong.
I’m waiting at least 5-6 years before even considering a 6th gen. I am extremely relieved that they are still manufacturing them at the same plant in Japan. I don’t think Japan will allow their bread and butter baby to drop in quality even with all of the newer technology. I have a 2015 TRD Pro that I will never sell even if i need to replace the entire powertrain which I will do if the time comes. I think the Japanese will find a way to make this new 6th gen last as long or maybe longer than the 5th gen. The quality difference from the Tacoma to the 4Runner is astronomical even with the 3rd and 5th gens respectively. I think that same quality with the 6th gen will continue. The Japanese are too proud to let their masterpiece go down the shitter
I needed a truck during the pandemic and found a 2020 with 4800 miles for $41000. During that time that same was going for $47000+ at a toyota dealership for a base model 4x2 in Austin. I went to buy that and he said it was 55k because of the markup. I bought the 41k used one...from carmax of all places. At the time an amazing deal. I already gave it to my son in college. He has put only 7000 miles on it. Basically its not even broken in. I told him when he wants to get rid of it, to give it back to me and i'm gonna overland it. I love that 4runner...and yes I know prices have dropped but at the time, that was the price. it is what it is.
@ABach-ld2oc yep amazing truck and those were brutal times to buy during the pandemic 75% of buyers then (or something close to that) are still upside down now.
@@Jason-Samko 100% agree, but it won't even be broken in (at my son's current rate lol) for at least 10 years. I literally have my lifetime (i'm 54) to enjoy it.
did my first oil change at 1300 then another one just over 5k. 2024 SR5 4x4. Want it to last 20 years. Definitely wont be suckered into the 10k oil change interval so that the manufacturer and dealership can suck money out of me with $$$$ repairs. 5k oil changes only
We don't know yet if the 6th gen will be reliable or not because no one has one yet. Toyota has been able to make a great 4runner for 5 generations. Why wouldn't they be able to keep doing the same thing? The theory that they just "forgot" how to make reliable vehicles does not make sense.
@@javilink7 too much tech and a 4 cylinder turbo. It will be a great suv. But it won't have half the longevity of the current one and will be plagued with more problems. It's a simple numbers game. More tech more problems. Smaller motor with a turbo less life.
I traded in my 2020 Blazer for my 2021 XP Runner with a little over 30,000 miles on it. We test drove a 2025 with all the luxuries. It was very very nice but the XP STAYED on my mind. I'm glad I decided against getting a 2025. The Runners and Jeep Rubicons were my dream trucks. I'm keeping my Runner 4 ever, Lord Willin'.
I only have a couple more payments left on my 2019 tundra. I'm looking at used 4Runners for my second car found one that has the Magnuson supercharger already in it pretty cool
I just bought a 2024 ORP in Underground, loving it so far and will be keeping it for a long time. I definitely agree with you, the 2024 4Runner is the last of the old Toyota (the Toyota everyone loved). It’s the end of an era and it’s the last chance to get a new version. The Gen 5 has been perfected for 15 years, it’s the culmination of slight improvements year after year. The demand for them will definitely go up as soon as Toyota releases the new MSRP for the 2025s, expect $50k base and going up to possibly $75-$80k for the TRD Pro. You also have to factor in inflation, money today is not worth as much as it used to be. A $30k 4Runner 5-10 years ago is now a $50-$60k 4Runner. It’s just going to continue to get more expensive, might as well lock one down now while you still can. The longer you have your 4Runner the higher the possibilty that you’d be able to sell it for exactly what you paid for it (or more). Like the FJs you mentioned, $30k new, fast forward 10 years and you can sell it for $30k+ and essentially have had a free truck to use for 10 years (minus any potential interest/dividends/growth you would have made if you had just parked that $30k in the market). When I was shopping for a 4Runner I went to at least 12 different dealerships. They all had a few things in common: 1) The last remaining 2024 4Runners were flying off the lots. They couldn’t even keep them on the lots (unless there was a dealer mark up on them). Most of the 4Runners, mine included, didn’t even sit for a day on the lot. I had reserved mine, it got delivered in the morning, went through pre-inspection, and then I drove it home in the afternoon. 2). The dealerships had only a few more allocations of 4Runners coming for the entire rest of the year. I had an internet manager send me their entire allocation sheet for the rest of 2024, there were about 6 more 4Runners coming… that’s it. I’m pretty sure it’s like that everywhere. As production is likely only manufacturing the last of the 2024s what’s left on lots is all there is. 3). The dealerships I went to all complained about low inventory. Word from Toyota to dealerships was to expect little to no inventory for awhile, slow allocations across the board. One Dealship I was at didn’t even have a Camry or Corolla on the entire lot. 4). Despite having almost no inventory, they all had literally dozens and dozens of 2024 Tacomas and Tundras. One dealership had two 4Runners and 27 Tacomas. The sales rep there said they couldn’t move the Tacomas, no one wanted them! 😂.
You can't judge a new 4 runner online reliability and by far more power and torque plus all the new convenience of technology not to mention 1/3 better fuel economy and that new engine is not complicated as you say it is. So you can't judge a new toyota engine when it's to early to say anything
Nothing about the 4 runner is new anymore. It's out in both the taco and the land cruiser. And I'm not knocking it. I'm saying it's not the same as the old on or has the advantages of the old one many people want. Many people will want the new one. But on the flip side many will not and demand for the old teued true and proven simplicity of the last gen will be high sought after
Toyota is such a disaster right now that anything thats new the previous model increase in value ,the older tundra's shot up ,the previous tacoma is 39k ,the upcoming 4runner will suffer the same fate as the tacoma ,even on the lexus side,going from a 2023 gx460 to a brand new gx550 is a stepdown,the interior is cheap and the engine.
RAV4, Camry, Highlanders, Corolla are all doing well. The first generation of any brand sucks and glitches have to be worked out, once the glitches are cleaned up, they will be fine. My biggest concern is the outrageous prices for any of the new vehicles being introduced, regardless of the brand.
I've owned 3 Rubicons, but am wanting to switch it up to a 4Runner. A few dealers have told me the same thing...the 5th gen will end going up in value b/c of the tried and true V6, among other things.
On my second 2 runner - 2024 SR 5. Still have my 2011 limited and if i dont sell it, my daughter gets it. They are like roaches... they're everywhere and you can't kill them!
Is it just me or do you also prefer the 4th gen to the 5th in terms of internal “feel”, body roll, engine noise, transmission noise? It just gives me a Chevy Tahoe feel. Don’t get me wrong there are a lot of other pros but the 4 just gave a better vibe driving it. My 3 were/are all Limited models.
I have very limited time in a 4th gen and never owned one. The one I was in was a rental and was very nice! But never took it offroad or anything just around town and the the airport.
I own 2 brand new 2024 TRD ORP underground clean titles. 106k out the door. Look what happened to the FJ after production ended. I actually want to buy a third one now. Email me if you want to see pics. Love these trucks!! Sweet as black strap molasses!! A 2025 4 banger turbo electric motor golf cart is a gift to those that own a 5th gen as prices on the 5th gen WILL rise faster than a home-sick angel...
I hope they become a bit cheaper when the new model comes out, but maybe the new one will push prices up. I had a 4thGen, which was taken from me. I can’t get it back, but I hope to get a 4Runner before they become retro classics.
The last bugs of the 5th gen 4runner were worked out in the 2024 model. If you count 2009, when you could first buy the 5th gen, even though the official release year was 2010, and 2025 when you know you can still find the last few 2024 models still on some lots, it will mean the 5th gen was available brand-new spanning 17 different years. And, it will be missed, and it will go up in price. I think it's the land rover's last good year that's really starting to shoot up in price. The same will happen to this year's 4runner. I wish I could buy 20 and place them in storage.
I'm on my 4th 4Runner. Dated? Ask the 70,000-100,000 Tundra owners with Turbo V-6 that are subject to RECALL. NEW ENGINES WILL BE INSTALLED! NO TRADE-INS ALLOWED ON UN-RECALLED TUNDRAS! I was smart by buying TWO 5th Gen 4Runners BEFORE they got the 2.4L Turbo. My first 4Runner, a 1986, had a 118hp 2.4L 4 Banger. Not going back to 4cyl.
@@Jason-Samko I traded a perfect 3rd gen DC LB ORP (hard to find inferno color) on my 4Runner. I wish now I had kept it and just bought the 4Runner outright.
I have a 2012 SR5 2wd with 110k. I am considering selling to find a Lexus GX470 or GX460 circa 2012-13. Just wanting a 4wd and seems these are cheaper than 4Runners around the same age.
Been thinking to sell my 21 4r trd pro last few years. However it seems like its a keeper. Under 20k miles currently. Should hold or increase value over next few years.
Hi Jason, great review. I've been researching the 4Runner and I see A LOT of them are from rental companies. What are your thoughts on rental purchases?
I won't buy a rental vehicle if I can avoid it. Heard so many horror stories. But the 4 runner is one vehicle that is built to take the abuse and is probably still fine. But the idea of 700 other people driving it hard and the bare minimum maintenance done does worry me a bit.But. and the resale value will drop tremendously if the car fax shows it was a rental vehicle
I just got a 2024 TRD Off Road Premium and I'm expecting it to hold its value and possibly increase for a while. Won't matter much unless wife ends up hating it enough to make me trade it -- she will be the primary driver.
2020 is when they started doing the frame joint coating I believe. But even the models before thst were great as long as you treated it eith fluid film or similar once a year.
From what I'm hearing, the 6th gen 4Runner is being delayed due to the lack of sales from the 2024 Tacoma's. The 6th gen will still go into production soon, just not as soon.
@@Jason-Samko That's what they say, lol. I read their release on parts shortage due to the same parts being used in two other popular vehicles Toyota sells, I'm just not believing them. I think Toyota sees what's going on with the tundra and Tacoma sales wise and is pumping the breaks on adding another overpriced unwanted turbo charged smaller engine on the market. Not to mention, this would make the Nissan Frontier the only truck left with a naturally aspirated engine, I'm not sure Toyota likes that.
I can only find one black TRD PRO and they want $1k over msrp. There is a TRD off road used for $14k cheaper with only 5k mi. Not sure what I should do as I don’t love buying used. Thoughts?
Love the 4runner. Sadly the 5th gen might be the last of the reliable Toyota 4x4 legends.
agree 100
Thanks Jason, with the 5 Gen being the last Japanese V6 engine, I believe you are correct!
It's a sad day now that production on these is about over
@@Jason-Samko ya forsure the last of the great Toyota’s simple old school.
@@Jojo-ni2cg agree 100
Im not selling mine for a new one. My trd pro will be my reliable fishing\camping vehicle.
And it will last forever
@@Jason-Samko The only thing that wont last on this car is the gas gauge its always on E when im driving it.
@@buraian2694 😂😂
SHOULD A PERSON BUY A 2025 TOYOTA 4 RUNNER, I SAY NO, IF YOU WANT ONE THEN BUY A USED ONE WITH A 4.0L V6 BECAUSE AFTER 2024 TOYOTA IS NOT GOING TO MAKE THE 4.0L V6 ANYMORE, IN 2025 ALL TOYOTA 4 RUNNERS ARE GOING TO BE TURBO 4 CYLINDER.
@@craigbosko2229 very true
I just did my 5,0000 mile service on my TRD off road premium. I paid for an oil change, I just can’t get on board with the 10,000 mile interval. I do miss my V8 2016 tundra, but she’s growing on me.
very smart! I do the same. I always change the oil at 1k on a new truck them again at 5k and every 5k after. I would never go 10k on a oil change.
It's a lie don't do 10k. I always do 5k oil change my dealer here never said anything about 10k .
Don’t wait and do the 10K oil change. The first couple of oil changes with a new vehicle are the most important. I typically change my new vehicles oil at 500 miles. Then another one at 2,000 miles and a third at 5,000 miles. Then I do oil changes every 5,000 miles from that point on.
@@pewterngold agree 100
Yes!
I did a 1,000 mile oil change as well.
I appreciate the good advice. It’s almost like the dealers don’t want vehicles to last.
Most of us owners could care less about the value because we’re not selling them. Can’t get anything to replace it at that price point.
Maybe. For me vehicles are commodities and money always wins.
@@Jason-Samko fair but the point is I paid $40k for my 2022 new, and if someone offered me $40k for it next year I’d have to say no because the 2025 will most likely cost me $50k. $10k to “upgrade” to a 4 banger.
correct. i am not selling mine. my dealership kept making me offers to buy it and i told them to stop calling.
They will def have incredible resale over the next 10 years
agree. like money in the bank
Man, Jason I wish I had an uncle like you that lived nearby who I could come over pick his brain and learn from hands on. A lot of the videos you post concerning specific problems with solution/ thought process are exactly the questions and things I am interested in. This is coming from a 1st generation American who never had anyone to teach him any practical/ mechanical skills in life. Just a word of thanks and encouragement to keep posting on the topics that you do; you never know who you are helping and encouraging. Keep up the good work Unc!
Thank you. Greatly appreciated and just made my day with this comment
Great job on breaking it all down, i have a 2016 4runner trail with kdss, and I can not imagine having anything else. This truck still looks as good as the first day i bought her. Maybe even better since I've decked it out for overlandding. I've done a lot of camping trips with her, and yet i I'm still able to keep her looking newish. Japan knew exactly what they were doing when they built the 4runnner and the GX. I only wished that they would have come out with a better looking 6th gen. Love my 5th gen.
Agree 100 they buit it well! Glad you are loving yours too
I love our 2 5th gens, Toyota would have an absolute all star if they would have just done a body and interior change and left the drivetrain alone. Part of the draw for me is the reliability which I don’t see staying as good with the newer ones.
I’ve had my 2016 since new. It’s so reliable. I love it. Checks all the boxes for me forget these new ones
Great suv
Just picked up a brand new 2024 trd off road. Resale value and reliability made it an easy choice.
congrats on an amazing truck
The biggest difference on what the values will be between the fj and the 4runner is production numbers. There were only around 200k fjs produced for the US market from 06-14 and there are well over a million 4Runners. Just like everything else supply and demand dictates values.
True but this whole time the fj was not the only longterm reliable capable toyota suv. Now the 5th gen 4 runner is.
Keeping my ‘21 sport 4x4. 15k miles and rock solid.
Perfect
I like the way you and anyone should think when you acquire or keep a vehicle. This vehicle will always have solid resale vs something else but it is rare air for anyone to make money cherry picking a purchase and holding and maintaining it over 10, 20, 30 years and making a real net return. The best proposition is if someone has $50k cash sitting around you’re better off most say investing that money. Those returns over the same periods are much better than any car. No matter how good or rare.
Found a 2023 CPO ORP in Lunar Rock in January after searching for a while. Had under 7900 miles. I jumped on it and I absolutely love it. Will hand it down to my son.
Very nice
How much did you find one for?
@@drez8242 It was $43k. The dealer played games and added $2500 for an extended warranty I didn’t want so I cancelled it. Had to drive 4 hours to get it but well worth it. Especially since it was Certified. I really wanted the Lunar Rock color and ORP WITH the sunroof. Only thing I wish it had was the trail camera. Love it though. Quality is unmatched.
Got mine for $43k. Had to drive 4 hours away for it but I wanted a Lunar Rock ORP with the sunroof. Worth it.
@@4gedcarbon537 outstanding
Just purchased a new 2024 SR5 premium in Ice Cap. (07/06/2024). Love the look and ride of the vehicle. Great video !! Thank you.
@@FrankLinares congratulations on an amazing suv
Congrats Frank. Just curious, did you have to pay above the msrp?
SR5 Prem is a great pick it has so many features and options like third row etc
@@Jason-Samko Thank you !!
@@Kay-dx8vm I got it for $4200 Under MSRP. South Florida.
Old is GOLD! I have a Gen 4 and absolutely love it.
@@MichaelPaparelli agree
I just bought a new 4Runner this afternoon. I’ve done all my research for 6 months now and needed to get my hands on the fifth Gen 4.0 V6 and the used market here in Canada is absolutely pure insanity right now on 4Runners. Picking it up Saturday morning and cannot wait!! It’s like when I was a kid on Xmas Eve.
@@deanjohnston4073 outstanding. Congratulations
I picked mine on this past Saturday as well. I am in Toronto and picked it from Ottawa. Flew early morning on Saturday after paying a hefty some for Air Canada flight.
@@kashifalam7 haha I’m in Ottawa got mine in Orleans. Did you buy new or used?
@@kashifalam7 congratulations on a great new truck
@@deanjohnston4073 used. From Bank Street Toyota. You must have seen that car while browsing. It was base 2018. I liked the fact that it was single owner car with ultra low km (85,000)
I have a 2017 Off Road I bought brand new. LOVE this truck. 100k mi. runs great. Other than replacing the steering knuckle, no problems.
Glad you are loving yours too
I watched several 4Runner videos from the Car Care Nut and Automotive Press before choosing my first 24 Limited 4wd. The only question that will be answered in time is that the 22-24 models increased substantially due to inflation. I suspect that the values on these will drop to align more with the 19-21 model values. While we don’t buy cars as investments, it’s plausible to assume that these will depreciate more.
Time will tell but I'm betting the values will blow up. Just like the 3rd gen taco is and like the fj did
I just bought mine last week, and it only had 4 miles on it when it was delivered to me. I used a car broker, and it was the easiest transaction I ever had. I didn't even have to mess with a dealership. I bought the SR5 premium because it had the exact features I needed on it. You basically have to take what they have right now, and you can't be super picky about color, etc... mine is white, 4WD, and came with the blackout package and the TRD wheels on it. I also got it for $1,500 under invoice.
Outstanding and congratulations on your amazing new 4 runner
Just got myself a trd ORP 2024 and I’m thrilled
congrats on a your excellent new truck
just bought 2011 sr5 premium 16k clean 110 k love it feels sturdy
@@BarbaraBratisax very nice
I just bought a 2024 SR5 Premium yesterday, and I'm going to pick it up Monday! I can't wait! I originally wasn't planning on purchasing one anytime soon, but I don't like the new body styles on the 6th gens, and I worry about engine performance... Glad I got one while I still could.
You are gonna love it
I placed deposit on one a couple of weeks back for a TRD Premium that's in transit. There's really not many new ones around and on the lots at least in my area of NC. The dealer had a dozen or so in transit and all of them already ha deposits on except the one I placed a deposit on. I think it's a testament to these vehicles as most people would wait for the new model and the outgoing would be sitting on the lots, but not the case with these. There seems to be a bunch of used ones on the market, but at close to new prices in most cases, or at least with the more desirable packages.
@@ChristianGrest yep I bet these increase price drastically once the new ones hit the lots
I bought a new '20 SR5 Premium in white...and my wife has a '23 Tacoma TRD Off Road Premium in Lunar Rock. She bought it new right before the '24 Tacomas arrived.
I have about 20k miles after 4 years and my wife has 5k miles after 10 months.
@@jeffpoirier1184 2 great trucks
@Jason-Samko
We love them both. Plan on hanging on to these for quite some time. My father also has a 4Runner...a white '23 TRD Pro.
Just put a deposit down on the last underground offroad premium going to a local dealership. Super excited about it
outstanding! Congrats on a great truck
@Jason-Samko thank you, I was expecting them to overload it with dealer accessories, as I hear the ones they have won't fit the 2025s so they are getting rid of them at a premium. Thankfully, it was stock aside from some LED interior lights.
@@seanmillette4323 perfect
How much did you pay? Im getting a similar option. 64,50 for 48 months 0 down0@@seanmillette4323
Just got a 2021 SR5 premium for a steal! Plan on keeping it forever with my 2013 Tundra!
@@SometimesDIY 2 very nice trucks
I just picked up my new 4Runner TRDORP on Saturday. It made more sense to me to buy a new one as the used hold their value so well that even with 30-40 thousand miles they were only about 5-7k cheaper. I also wanted to know that from day 1 she’d be taken care of and with a used vehicle, you just can’t do that. How was it broken in? What intervals did they change the oil? Did they do regular maintenance? Did they do scheduled maintenance? Too many unknowns for me.
Agree 100%. I've bought 3 used trucks and 37 new ones. I will not buy used again unless it's from someone I know personally. Or unless it's low miles with good history on record. All 3 were 50 to 100k miles and nothing but issues
I’m keeping my 2021 Limited Nightshade edition. It’s my ninth Runner & I’ll never buy anything else. A totally reliable vehicle & they hold their value better than anything on the road.
@@KayHarviel love it
Let me start by stating I bought & own a 2022 Tundra and because I seen first hand how Toyota cut corner IMO a brutal learning curve. So in January I bought (investment built to last forever!) a new 24’ TRD OffRoad 4 Runner AND I never gave them a second glance before (even they been out forever). My 24’ Runner is garage kept, put on very select mods, on a battery tender waiting for me to retire.
Sucks about the tundra but maybe a blessing in disguise as you were able to get the last true toyota truck ever made
Great choice, I did the same in 23 because I was thinking the last year, proven platform. Love it we retire in 5 years. And I do my own maintenance. It’s my pre retirement vehicle.
@@ruckinehround6965 This quality platform is going away and something much cheaper and much more complex will replace it. When I retire in four years I luv to drive it all over out west maybe even to Alaska (probably never even have a trouble light come on). My one worry someone tries to steal it the older it gets. Not a big fan of Toyota’s labor rates…imagine Toyota tells you they need to take the cab off your truck to fix it $$$$$$.
6th gen is delayed till end of 2025 due to shortage of parts. 5th gen lives on for another year
I do t think it's delayed that long. The video I did on it a week ago said delayed until beginning of 2025
Til the end of 2025🙄
A dealer just told me this today. Looking to trade in my Tacoma for a 5th Gen 4Runner.
I just saw one yesterday at the grocery store
@@prestonnewton9025 6th Gen? Is it sold or was it driven by a Toyota employee?
4runner sells as many in 2 years as the FJ did in 9 years.
The price of legacy 4runners isn't going to appreciate but for absolute chaos in 6th gens. Buying one and keeping it crazy low mileage may make it an outlier in 10 years but there are too many on the road for it to appreciate notably
I disagree. I expect the current 4 runner value to jump huge as soon as the 6th gen hits the lots and the 5th gens are are sold out. But time will tell
@@Jason-Samko I'm skeptical. I think it's all tied to bigger macro picture. The 4runner is a legend and it shows in the longevity study that just came out but there are a ton of them on the road.
All hinges on how well the new generations end up fairing. An ugly start for sure but lots that could impact in fuel prices, alternate fuel developments (long way to go but lots of runway to prove themselves).
Probably fair to say they'll keep depreciating at a slow rate but a smart market knows they're going away and there's no reason to believe prices of them used rise but for actual inflation.
@@danielrassi2174 that's fine to think and believe. I think and believe the prices are gonna skyrocket.
Made the investment decision and went in on a new 24 TRD Pro just last week in Terra. I actually got around 3500 off sticker, so the deals are out there, just be patient, and be willing to drive if you’re in places like SoCal where these go with a dealer markup.
Like it so far, only regret was getting rid of my 22 TRD OR Tacoma 6MT to get it. If I could have kept them both, I would have.
Great suv and would live to have a taco manual
What dealer?
@@MMSJ49 got AutoNation in Austin to match an end of month price I had found in Houston. I had started dealing with them about 2 weeks before, going back and forth waiting for the truck to arrive, so it wasn’t a quick process. Coming from shopping around in San Diego, I was admittedly shocked they took the deal.
@@Jason-Samko the Taco is still sitting up there on the lot, I can’t say I haven’t contemplated further crippling debt to get it back.
I bought my wife a new 4runner (pro - lime rush) a couple of years ago. It was her first non mom car in over 20 years. She loves it - she only has 23K miles on it and it is such a solid vehicle. She is thinking about getting a new vehicle but we will probably keep it.
I have had several Tacomas - bought a 23 Tacoma (Pro - solar octane) only because I was afraid of the turbo. I put 250k on my 19 Tacoma and it was flawless. As much as I like the Tacomas, the 4runner is in a different league.
** I just bought an 06 4Runner (V8) with only 84K miles...one owner 4x4 Sport. I paid 16K , put on a timing belt, water pump, plugs wires, etc...sold out to my daughter for 10K...it should last her for many, many years.
@@gsdlvr123 outstanding. Great collection of vehicles too
Whoa 😱 I know they exist, but I've never actually seen a non-Premium 5th-gen 4Runner TRD OR before. They're surprisingly difficult to find info about. I picked up my '24 ORP in Underground new this past February. Stock. The only add-on is the MTM and the cargo liner. $49k OTD in Michigan. I love it. My only two issues are (1) I wish there was more takeoff speed because it's very slow to accelerate, and (2) the backseat folded down aren't flushed because there's like a 3" drop into the trunk space. Unless, if you have the pullout tray. But, aside from those two things, I love it.
@@liams22u59 yep such a great truck.
Look into the Banks Performance Pedal Commander. Truly improves the throttle response and it made all the difference. WORTH IT!!!
Got the 5 Gen with the xp Gunner package. Love it
@@andresate6314 beautiful
I have a 17' ORP, bought in 2019 with 30k miles, I'm at 130k today. Great truck. Super reliable. I've changed all the fluids at 100k. 2 sets of pads and rotors all around, spark plugs and air filters done, also a new battery at 80k. Oil change and drive line lube every 5-7k. Still drives like a beast. Multiple road trips every year with the family. This thing will get to 300k easily.
Outstanding! Such a great truck
I test drove a brand new 2024 Land Cruiser FE yesterday morning. For the money, I was not impressed at all. Technology was great. But the ride quality was massively lacking.
On my way home later in the day, I saw a 2023 4Runner Limited sitting on the side of the road with a for sale sign in the window. It had 4400 miles on it. Looked absolutely brand new. My wife and I had it out for a test drive within two hours of me spotting it. The ride quality compared to the LC was striking. The 4Runner rode so much better. I was shocked. We thought about it overnight. We made a deal this morning. Pick up scheduled for tomorrow.
@@prestonmiller1156 smart choice. Amazing truck
Just got 2024 4Runner TRD Pro in Underground. This is my 5th 4runner. I just pass down to my family. Nothing better hands down the best.
@@johnguzman9262 outstanding
My 2004 Toyota 4Runner SR5 V6, I bought in 2019 with 119K miles. Got a steal of a deal because the person thought the rims were flaking off and a scratch on a fender made it not worth as much. I bought it for $7K. Now 164k mile on the odometer no problems just maintenance. , i bought factory refurbished rims on eBay for $425 put on with AT tires. I don’t mind the scratch on the fender added a couple more going down forest service roads. I Have driven across country on vacation several times it’s a Daily driver and not once have needed to add oil between oil changes. Plan on driving to at least 300K miles then selling it for about what I gave. Now I’m saving for that future 5th gen I plan on buying around 2030-2035 when the best deal appears
Perfect
I predict it'll even value higher the FJ by comparison, especially for '22 and on. Good video, rational and we'll done, thank you.
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. I betting these skyrocket when the new ones hit the lots and the yourubers (myself included) start talking about the prices of the new ones
Plenty new ones on the lots still selling at a discount. It’s not a glamorous vehicle but it’s tank that will get you through anything.
No discounts in Texas
I'm betting huge increases on the used ones when the prices of the new one hit the lots
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I’m keeping my 2019 Limited. I have sixteen thousand miles on it. It’s still new
So glad I dumped the current Tundra for my new and reliable 2024 SR5 Premium. I almost expect when I go in for my service (tires rotation and oil changes that the dealership would want to buy it back. Like my 2021 Tundra during Covid.
@@davidbrieske such a great teuck
I bought a technically new 2023 4Runner Limited with 11K miles from Toyota that was used as a sales rep car. Sold as new, but with $8K off MSRP. Was an awesome buy.
@@musclesmouse great job on a great suv
There is two wheel drive, all wheel drive, and the Limited is the only trim with full time 4 wheel drive (and real leather). I bought the 2024 4Runner Limited (Nautical Blue Metallic), $58k out the door, paid cash. The 4Runner is not staying in stock. They sell the minute they hit the dealer. They are definitely near the end of the 5th Gen. Glad to have mine.
@@YouCanCallMeDon congratulations on such a fine suv
My 22 highlander v6 value is excellent. Owned it two years and it’s worth just little bit less than what i paid
Very nice
Can’t go wrong buying a light used & well maintained 4R or a lexus gx460. Def some of the best vehicles ever made. LC200 or LX570 should be looked @ too if you can afford it! If you’re in a northern climate it’s nice having the full-time 4wd!!
Great suvs and agree fulltime 4wd option is amazing in the snow.
I love my 5th gen 4Runner
I sold my 2016 4runner sr5 premium about 2 months ago for $25k. It had 65k miles on it and it was in fair condition, some scratches and a dent, interior was pretty rough due to my 3 dogs walking all over everything. I then bought a 2024 4runner limited in the underground color and I couldn't be happier with my choice. I am going above and beyond to take care of this one and am hoping that in 5 years it is still in close to perfect condition and will be worth the original msrp of $53k or more. Especially if inflation continues and the price of a new 4runner that no one wants is 60 something k for similar trim level.
@@MayhemInTheEast should be able to hold that value easy
Not selling my '23 ORP, but it's cool to know my grand kids will be driving it one day.
Tina said that about our 23 ted off road too. She said in 15 years we can give it to our grandson. I said no "if 15 years we can sell it for 50k and buy him something less expensive..lol"
I dont doubt that prices will go up with the 5th gen 4Runner and 3rd gen Tacoma. The new ones while they look good are flawed. Suspension issues, 4 cylinder turbo engine that needs lots of field hours to see how reliable is. I got no doubts on the hybrid system as Toyota has been doing it for years, but there is no doubt they cut corners in other specs of the new gens. Toyota Landcruiser 200 series is another one that if you have the money get one while you can.
Agree and loyal toyota customers bought toyota for quality and reliability. With that gone they will remote to used toyotas that are proven.
Our 03 limited has been so reliable with only 184k, can’t really see giving her up now for anything new.
Heck yours is good for another 300k miles!
4Runners at the moment are the only Toyota that is assembled and QC'd in Japan - just be careful about what the pricing shows online - they will add mandatory add-ons then port-installed add-ons and list it as "TSRP". You will need to make lots of calls to find a dealership that is willing to let you drop the port installed options (PIOs). Even with a base model SR5 , tax, title, license, your OTD will be over $50k
@totalnoobfishing1753 current land cruiser is Japan made as well. But your right dealing with toyota add ons and thier stupid allocation only buying sucks
@@Jason-Samko Those Land cruisers looks so sweet..dream truck
I love my Limited… I know it’s not the TRD off road 4 wheel system but let’s get real… 80% of us are not bouldering. However, the All wheel center diff system is found on the Land Cruiser and Gx460… so it’s pretty fukin awesome.. I’m getting 17” wheels with KO2s for winter or off road adventures… still get me up the mountain!!!
beautiful truck
My 4Runners build date is 06/2024. It may be one of the last built. 💯👌🏽👊🏽
That's pretty awesome to have one of the last ones
I ordered one in May, it is being built right now. TRD ORP in Underground, expecting delivery by October
@@andrewhorak3443 outstanding
@andrewhorak3443 how much did you pay?
I’m still on my 4th gen with 250k now and still very happy with it.
@@cstew8656 outstanding
@@Jason-Samko I worked at a toy dealership in 18-20. The majority of 5th gen runner owners, repeat buyers complained about the window controls being on the top of the door card and not lower like the 4th gen. I heard it over and over again. Most said they would go back to the 4th gen that they traded if had the choice. All that time I was looking for the good 5th gen to trade on 4th in on.
In the Pacific Northwest it seems cheaper to buy a new one rather than a used one. The current used prices are nuts.
Same everywhere. Values of these are jumping up
2021 4R TRD pro lunar rock. Remember the 20k mark up
Keeping my Runner! 5th Gen all the way
Love lunar rock
I think your right. However, we are in a depression so I think there's more going to be comming to market. Not everything has unwinded yet and intrest rates need to go up or level out. There may be a window of time where vehicles become reasonable b4 going up again. If it's your dream car then there is no wrong.
I'm going to be the guy with a 2023 TRD Off Road Lunar Rock 4runner with 300k miles on it years from now
And it will still look and run like the day you bought it
I’m waiting at least 5-6 years before even considering a 6th gen. I am extremely relieved that they are still manufacturing them at the same plant in Japan. I don’t think Japan will allow their bread and butter baby to drop in quality even with all of the newer technology. I have a 2015 TRD Pro that I will never sell even if i need to replace the entire powertrain which I will do if the time comes. I think the Japanese will find a way to make this new 6th gen last as long or maybe longer than the 5th gen. The quality difference from the Tacoma to the 4Runner is astronomical even with the 3rd and 5th gens respectively. I think that same quality with the 6th gen will continue. The Japanese are too proud to let their masterpiece go down the shitter
I needed a truck during the pandemic and found a 2020 with 4800 miles for $41000. During that time that same was going for $47000+ at a toyota dealership for a base model 4x2 in Austin. I went to buy that and he said it was 55k because of the markup. I bought the 41k used one...from carmax of all places. At the time an amazing deal. I already gave it to my son in college. He has put only 7000 miles on it. Basically its not even broken in. I told him when he wants to get rid of it, to give it back to me and i'm gonna overland it. I love that 4runner...and yes I know prices have dropped but at the time, that was the price. it is what it is.
@ABach-ld2oc yep amazing truck and those were brutal times to buy during the pandemic 75% of buyers then (or something close to that) are still upside down now.
@@Jason-Samko 100% agree, but it won't even be broken in (at my son's current rate lol) for at least 10 years. I literally have my lifetime (i'm 54) to enjoy it.
@@ABach-ld2oc perfect
Looking at a used on and the prices are crazy!!😀
@@nkf_gh cause value I'd skyrockerting
did my first oil change at 1300 then another one just over 5k. 2024 SR5 4x4. Want it to last 20 years. Definitely wont be suckered into the 10k oil change interval so that the manufacturer and dealership can suck money out of me with $$$$ repairs. 5k oil changes only
Excellent. Agree 100
We don't know yet if the 6th gen will be reliable or not because no one has one yet. Toyota has been able to make a great 4runner for 5 generations. Why wouldn't they be able to keep doing the same thing? The theory that they just "forgot" how to make reliable vehicles does not make sense.
@@javilink7 too much tech and a 4 cylinder turbo. It will be a great suv. But it won't have half the longevity of the current one and will be plagued with more problems. It's a simple numbers game. More tech more problems. Smaller motor with a turbo less life.
I traded in my 2020 Blazer for my 2021 XP Runner with a little over 30,000 miles on it. We test drove a 2025 with all the luxuries. It was very very nice but the XP STAYED on my mind. I'm glad I decided against getting a 2025. The Runners and Jeep Rubicons were my dream trucks. I'm keeping my Runner 4 ever, Lord Willin'.
@@kishafields3396 amazing truck that will last you a lifetime
I want to know. What exactly does “Limited” actually mean anyways? Used to be exactly that. High end limited production special edition. Now?
now its just a high end luxury trim level
I only have a couple more payments left on my 2019 tundra. I'm looking at used 4Runners for my second car found one that has the Magnuson supercharger already in it pretty cool
@@jeffp5418 that sure would be a fun vehicle
I just bought a 2024 ORP in Underground, loving it so far and will be keeping it for a long time.
I definitely agree with you, the 2024 4Runner is the last of the old Toyota (the Toyota everyone loved). It’s the end of an era and it’s the last chance to get a new version. The Gen 5 has been perfected for 15 years, it’s the culmination of slight improvements year after year. The demand for them will definitely go up as soon as Toyota releases the new MSRP for the 2025s, expect $50k base and going up to possibly $75-$80k for the TRD Pro.
You also have to factor in inflation, money today is not worth as much as it used to be. A $30k 4Runner 5-10 years ago is now a $50-$60k 4Runner. It’s just going to continue to get more expensive, might as well lock one down now while you still can. The longer you have your 4Runner the higher the possibilty that you’d be able to sell it for exactly what you paid for it (or more). Like the FJs you mentioned, $30k new, fast forward 10 years and you can sell it for $30k+ and essentially have had a free truck to use for 10 years (minus any potential interest/dividends/growth you would have made if you had just parked that $30k in the market).
When I was shopping for a 4Runner I went to at least 12 different dealerships. They all had a few things in common: 1) The last remaining 2024 4Runners were flying off the lots. They couldn’t even keep them on the lots (unless there was a dealer mark up on them). Most of the 4Runners, mine included, didn’t even sit for a day on the lot. I had reserved mine, it got delivered in the morning, went through pre-inspection, and then I drove it home in the afternoon. 2). The dealerships had only a few more allocations of 4Runners coming for the entire rest of the year. I had an internet manager send me their entire allocation sheet for the rest of 2024, there were about 6 more 4Runners coming… that’s it. I’m pretty sure it’s like that everywhere. As production is likely only manufacturing the last of the 2024s what’s left on lots is all there is. 3). The dealerships I went to all complained about low inventory. Word from Toyota to dealerships was to expect little to no inventory for awhile, slow allocations across the board. One Dealship I was at didn’t even have a Camry or Corolla on the entire lot. 4). Despite having almost no inventory, they all had literally dozens and dozens of 2024 Tacomas and Tundras. One dealership had two 4Runners and 27 Tacomas. The sales rep there said they couldn’t move the Tacomas, no one wanted them! 😂.
All great points and great info. Thanks for taking the time to write it
I got Premium 4x4 Off road ( 4runner )
Only problem is Gas , and transmission
You can't judge a new 4 runner online reliability and by far more power and torque plus all the new convenience of technology not to mention 1/3 better fuel economy and that new engine is not complicated as you say it is. So you can't judge a new toyota engine when it's to early to say anything
Nothing about the 4 runner is new anymore. It's out in both the taco and the land cruiser. And I'm not knocking it. I'm saying it's not the same as the old on or has the advantages of the old one many people want. Many people will want the new one. But on the flip side many will not and demand for the old teued true and proven simplicity of the last gen will be high sought after
Toyota is such a disaster right now that anything thats new the previous model increase in value ,the older tundra's shot up ,the previous tacoma is 39k ,the upcoming 4runner will suffer the same fate as the tacoma ,even on the lexus side,going from a 2023 gx460 to a brand new gx550 is a stepdown,the interior is cheap and the engine.
Agree 100
RAV4, Camry, Highlanders, Corolla are all doing well. The first generation of any brand sucks and glitches have to be worked out, once the glitches are cleaned up, they will be fine.
My biggest concern is the outrageous prices for any of the new vehicles being introduced, regardless of the brand.
Opinion on SR5 with 100k miles plus good buy?
Depending on price but sure is a great truck and capable of going 200k more
I bought a sr5 premium with 25k for 43. Crazy but it’s worth it man.
definitely worth it. Great truck.
I've owned 3 Rubicons, but am wanting to switch it up to a 4Runner. A few dealers have told me the same thing...the 5th gen will end going up in value b/c of the tried and true V6, among other things.
@@traveller81 yep.
On my second 2 runner - 2024 SR 5. Still have my 2011 limited and if i dont sell it, my daughter gets it. They are like roaches... they're everywhere and you can't kill them!
Is it just me or do you also prefer the 4th gen to the 5th in terms of internal “feel”, body roll, engine noise, transmission noise? It just gives me a Chevy Tahoe feel. Don’t get me wrong there are a lot of other pros but the 4 just gave a better vibe driving it. My 3 were/are all Limited models.
I have very limited time in a 4th gen and never owned one. The one I was in was a rental and was very nice! But never took it offroad or anything just around town and the the airport.
I own 2 brand new 2024 TRD ORP underground clean titles. 106k out the door. Look what happened to the FJ after production ended. I actually want to buy a third one now. Email me if you want to see pics. Love these trucks!! Sweet as black strap molasses!! A 2025 4 banger turbo electric motor golf cart is a gift to those that own a 5th gen as prices on the 5th gen WILL rise faster than a home-sick angel...
I hope they become a bit cheaper when the new model comes out, but maybe the new one will push prices up.
I had a 4thGen, which was taken from me. I can’t get it back, but I hope to get a 4Runner before they become retro classics.
I got a feeling the prices will go much higher when the new one hits the lost and people see the crazy prices
@@Jason-Samko 😭 …getting a 5th Gen is still an unattainable dream of mine.
The last bugs of the 5th gen 4runner were worked out in the 2024 model. If you count 2009, when you could first buy the 5th gen, even though the official release year was 2010, and 2025 when you know you can still find the last few 2024 models still on some lots, it will mean the 5th gen was available brand-new spanning 17 different years. And, it will be missed, and it will go up in price. I think it's the land rover's last good year that's really starting to shoot up in price. The same will happen to this year's 4runner. I wish I could buy 20 and place them in storage.
Well said and agree
I'm on my 4th 4Runner.
Dated?
Ask the 70,000-100,000 Tundra owners with Turbo V-6 that are subject to RECALL.
NEW ENGINES WILL BE INSTALLED!
NO TRADE-INS ALLOWED ON UN-RECALLED TUNDRAS!
I was smart by buying TWO 5th Gen 4Runners BEFORE they got the 2.4L Turbo.
My first 4Runner, a 1986, had a 118hp 2.4L 4 Banger.
Not going back to 4cyl.
@@geraldf.1222 such a great suv
The Moment I Saw the 2024 Tacoma I rushed out and bought a 2023
@@EPAInvestigations love the 23 4 runner and the 23 tacos
I own a 2024 ORP. I don’t think the value will go up. They made too many of these trucks. Well over 1 million.
@timalan7406 they made many more 3rd gen tacos and their value is going up fast.
@@Jason-Samko I traded a perfect 3rd gen DC LB ORP (hard to find inferno color) on my 4Runner. I wish now I had kept it and just bought the 4Runner outright.
@@timalan7406 yep the value of both is just gonna keep going up
I have a 2012 SR5 2wd with 110k. I am considering selling to find a Lexus GX470 or GX460 circa 2012-13. Just wanting a 4wd and seems these are cheaper than 4Runners around the same age.
All 3 are amazing
Been thinking to sell my 21 4r trd pro last few years. However it seems like its a keeper. Under 20k miles currently. Should hold or increase value over next few years.
Yep I bet in 3 years it's worth what you paid still even eith 50k miles on it
@Jason Samko: My 2024 TRD ORP should be here in 3-4 weeks. Can’t wait.
You are gonna love it
Hi Jason, great review. I've been researching the 4Runner and I see A LOT of them are from rental companies. What are your thoughts on rental purchases?
I won't buy a rental vehicle if I can avoid it. Heard so many horror stories. But the 4 runner is one vehicle that is built to take the abuse and is probably still fine. But the idea of 700 other people driving it hard and the bare minimum maintenance done does worry me a bit.But. and the resale value will drop tremendously if the car fax shows it was a rental vehicle
Sold my 2016 to get a 2024 SR5 premium 😊
@@donisestrada3269 last of the best suvs ever made
I just got a 2024 TRD Off Road Premium and I'm expecting it to hold its value and possibly increase for a while. Won't matter much unless wife ends up hating it enough to make me trade it -- she will be the primary driver.
Congratulations on an amazing new truck
Production ended in June 2024
Definitely agree with all you say. Just lookjng at the engine compartment on 6th gen makes you want to run away. Too complicated and messy looking.
Great point
My 2018 has 137k miles on it and it drives like it has 15k miles on it. I'll be adding a 2024 soon with low miles.
@@madhadder6754 amazing suvs
I didn't qualify for a 2024 TRD PRO in Underground so, I just went with a 2020 Gx450 with 30k mi. Money well spent 😊
Which generation 4Runner had frame rust problems?
2020 is when they started doing the frame joint coating I believe. But even the models before thst were great as long as you treated it eith fluid film or similar once a year.
I love my 2018 5th Gen SR5 Premium 💪🏾😎💪🏾
awesome truck
From what I'm hearing, the 6th gen 4Runner is being delayed due to the lack of sales from the 2024 Tacoma's. The 6th gen will still go into production soon, just not as soon.
I believe it's being delays do to part shortages
@@Jason-Samko That's what they say, lol. I read their release on parts shortage due to the same parts being used in two other popular vehicles Toyota sells, I'm just not believing them. I think Toyota sees what's going on with the tundra and Tacoma sales wise and is pumping the breaks on adding another overpriced unwanted turbo charged smaller engine on the market. Not to mention, this would make the Nissan Frontier the only truck left with a naturally aspirated engine, I'm not sure Toyota likes that.
I can only find one black TRD PRO and they want $1k over msrp. There is a TRD off road used for $14k cheaper with only 5k mi. Not sure what I should do as I don’t love buying used. Thoughts?
@@MrKingJavo tough call. Both sound great.
They made too many of these to be valuable. That being said, to me my 4Runner is my baby
It's gonna skyrocket I'm betting
I have a 2024 TRD off road premium in solar octane with 176 miles on it
@@Shmity1962 amazing truck