Hi Jose, I have done everything you have said but my print came out so dark. I have a brand new Image Prograf 300. Your help would greatly be appreciated.
Jose-"Please" for those of us NON-FB subscribers: Could you post a download link for your test files. Thank you for your dedication to printing EXCELLENCE!!
Hi Jose. At 9:20 in the video, what does it mean when you choose Mode: sRGB, under Media Settings for the Epson P-800? The file to be printed is in ProPhoto as one can see from the file name. So when you choose sRGB, then WHAT is set to be sRGB in the system? Is it the input file (overriding ProPhoto? just assigning another profile changes colors). A wild idea: Is the choice of sRGB as Mode something that limits the print gamut to be within the sRGB color space? I have no good idea about what Mode: sRGB does. In the User Guide for Epson P-800, we can read on page 83: "EPSON Standard (sRGB) Increases the contrast in images." That text makes absolutely no sense to me. Then I wonder: Jose, you wanted to print the test image exactly "as is", without any editing or enhancements. So why choose a Mode that promises to increase the contrast in the image? I hope you will reply to me, very technically and specifically. (I understand icc profiles pretty well, I use X-Rite i1Studio for my monitor, I have created icc camera profiles with the Lumariver Profile Designer, I use the Colorchecker passport, I know the difference between assigning icc profile and converting from one profile to another (in Gimp), I know the difference between gamut and color space). BUT: I have never printed, and I want to buy a printer soon.
@@cheo1949 how would I get that done? Also is there another way to work around this? Let’s say I get a glossy paper from canon but put it in my epson. Can I just select glossy setting & hit print? Or is that bad?
@@2brebel226 shit man same question here i m struggling with these profiles i dont know how to get themm... I m facing my greyscale images with more of yellowish tint in it... When i use photo paper with high setting please help me dude
Hello, where can I find that image to test the colors and banding. Also once I get the chart where in the computer do I send it to. Thanks. Reinaldo Alvarez
Hi Jose, great introduction! Thank you! I use (have) Quimage for many years, but did not use it much because of improper knowledge. I also bought my next Cannon 1000 to start now some proper (professional) prints. I hope with your help 👍😀. I do not have Facebook, where can I find your sample picture’s? Stay save and healthy - with regards from Germany 🇩🇪.
Yes, this is the method I use, and I still get excellent results from an 11-year-old Epson 3880. I use an even simpler program - Photoshop Elements - which has a simpler print interface. The only difference is that I select AdobeRGB as the mode. Sure, it limits me to Epson media, but Epson media is pretty darned good. Simpler is better!
Just an update to my previous email. I'm running Parallels 14 on my Mac Book Pro and have Windows 10. I now see just what you see in the Photoshop printing menu. Prints look great.
Can't wait for the 3rd video u mentioned about the printing programme! Keep up the good work! One question : do you recommend printing on photo shop manages colours or printer?( Not for this proofing image. . )
No secret. It's Qimage which now offers auto color management and paper profile suggestion. I would choose whatever works best for you. If you use brand papers ie, Canon or Epson you can let the driver do it at it is actually priting via its own ICC profiles on its own anyway.
Hello Jose, I have downloaded the print evaluation file as you recommended and opened it up using Photoshop Elements 2021 on my Canon Pro 100. However when I go to print it I get a message saying "The saved print information is in an incompatible version. It has been set to default values". What does this mean? Can I still use the image to evaluate my printing?
Hi Jose, thank you for a very helpful video. One question, please: I have the test image that is shown in this video. It seems like a good idea to use that test image when testing third-party paper and its associated profile. Do you know of any reason why NOT to do so?
Jose, I've just bought an Epson P800 on the used market, and I have printed your test page letting the printer manage the colours. I've made several prints, but I have a problem with two of the greens (two leftmost) in the top line of the colour patch below the B&W patch. They cannot be distinguished from each other. They display different on my monitor but not on the prints. I've tried both glossy and luster paper, same conclusion. Any ideas how to move forward?
Jose, When I downgraded from the buggy High Sierra to Sierra, I longer saw my Canon print driver. Canon’s site does not have supporting drivers, so I found third party CUPS driver. My computer is old in technology years and I can’t upgrade to Mojave. The CUPS driver is missing many things the Canon printer driver had, like showing current ink levels, and running a print test. Printing in Photoshop seems to be a huge problem, as the images look horrible. Canon customer service has been unhelpful. Do you have any advice for me? Thanking you ahead of time!
It's no longer available from the original source but join my facebook group and get it and many other items from my FILES tab. Link to join is on my video descriptions.
I have a Canon pro100 , Mac book pro and PS 2019. Following you step by step when I get to my file/print menu it does not have the options that you have.I up dated my driver and no change.
The instructions I provide are only for Windows to Mac drivers configure totally different and I'm not a Mac User so I cannot really be much help when it comes to setting up the Mac driver supposed to be a bit easier than the windows actually
I have a Canon Pixma ix6810... i know it's not one of the best, but it's all I can afford for now given my country's current situation. I cant find any information on ICM profiles for my printer I don't even know what ICM stands for lol. Can anyone point me to a starting direction? I've already Googled stuff, but nothing was helpful. Where do you get those ICM profiles for dowload? When I click on ICM I only have the "input profile" and "rendering intent" options :(
Running to your suggested images right now, José! Thanks for all these great tips.--C. In Charlottesville
Hi Jose, I have done everything you have said but my print came out so dark. I have a brand new Image Prograf 300. Your help would greatly be appreciated.
Jose-"Please" for those of us NON-FB subscribers: Could you post a download link for your test files. Thank you for your dedication to printing EXCELLENCE!!
Just look at video descriptions and all the links I've posted in them.
www.jirvana.com/printer_tests/PrinterEvaluationImage_V002.zip this link comes from: www.outbackphoto.com/printinginsights/pi048/essay.html
Hi Jose. At 9:20 in the video, what does it mean when you choose Mode: sRGB, under Media Settings for the Epson P-800? The file to be printed is in ProPhoto as one can see from the file name. So when you choose sRGB, then WHAT is set to be sRGB in the system? Is it the input file (overriding ProPhoto? just assigning another profile changes colors). A wild idea: Is the choice of sRGB as Mode something that limits the print gamut to be within the sRGB color space? I have no good idea about what Mode: sRGB does.
In the User Guide for Epson P-800, we can read on page 83:
"EPSON Standard (sRGB) Increases the contrast in images."
That text makes absolutely no sense to me. Then I wonder: Jose, you wanted to print the test image exactly "as is", without any editing or enhancements. So why choose a Mode that promises to increase the contrast in the image?
I hope you will reply to me, very technically and specifically. (I understand icc profiles pretty well, I use X-Rite i1Studio for my monitor, I have created icc camera profiles with the Lumariver Profile Designer, I use the Colorchecker passport, I know the difference between assigning icc profile and converting from one profile to another (in Gimp), I know the difference between gamut and color space). BUT: I have never printed, and I want to buy a printer soon.
thank you
These videos are incredibly informative. Jose mentions a second video in this series. Anybody know it’s name?
instablaster.
Hello, I am wondering how do I get icc profiles for canon papers on my epson printer?
Thanks for all of the videos & help
Well, you don't. No company will have profiles for their printers for competitor's papers. You have to have them custom made for you.
@@cheo1949 how would I get that done? Also is there another way to work around this? Let’s say I get a glossy paper from canon but put it in my epson. Can I just select glossy setting & hit print? Or is that bad?
@@2brebel226 shit man same question here i m struggling with these profiles i dont know how to get themm...
I m facing my greyscale images with more of yellowish tint in it... When i use photo paper with high setting please help me dude
Hello, where can I find that image to test the colors and banding. Also once I get the chart where in the computer do I send it to. Thanks. Reinaldo Alvarez
Hi Jose, great introduction! Thank you!
I use (have) Quimage for many years, but did not use it much because of improper knowledge. I also bought my next Cannon 1000 to start now some proper (professional) prints. I hope with your help 👍😀.
I do not have Facebook, where can I find your sample picture’s? Stay save and healthy - with regards from Germany 🇩🇪.
Yes, this is the method I use, and I still get excellent results from an 11-year-old Epson 3880. I use an even simpler program - Photoshop Elements - which has a simpler print interface. The only difference is that I select AdobeRGB as the mode. Sure, it limits me to Epson media, but Epson media is pretty darned good. Simpler is better!
Just an update to my previous email.
I'm running Parallels 14 on my Mac Book Pro and have Windows 10. I now see just what you see in the Photoshop printing menu. Prints look great.
Sounds great.
Can't wait for the 3rd video u mentioned about the printing programme! Keep up the good work! One question : do you recommend printing on photo shop manages colours or printer?( Not for this proofing image. . )
No secret. It's Qimage which now offers auto color management and paper profile suggestion.
I would choose whatever works best for you. If you use brand papers ie, Canon or Epson you can let the driver do it at it is actually priting via its own ICC profiles on its own anyway.
@@cheo1949 I've never used that program however I don't use brand name papers so not sure how much it would help ,I pretty much only use canvas. .
Hello Jose,
I have downloaded the print evaluation file as you recommended and opened it up using Photoshop Elements 2021 on my Canon Pro 100. However when I go to print it I get a message saying "The saved print information is in an incompatible version. It has been set to default values". What does this mean? Can I still use the image to evaluate my printing?
Hi Jose, thank you for a very helpful video. One question, please:
I have the test image that is shown in this video. It seems like a good idea to use that test image when testing third-party paper and its associated profile. Do you know of any reason why NOT to do so?
Yes it is what you should before you attempt to print your own images.
Jose, I've just bought an Epson P800 on the used market, and I have printed your test page letting the printer manage the colours. I've made several prints, but I have a problem with two of the greens (two leftmost) in the top line of the colour patch below the B&W patch. They cannot be distinguished from each other. They display different on my monitor but not on the prints. I've tried both glossy and luster paper, same conclusion. Any ideas how to move forward?
Those colors on the upper row are out of gamut colors. I have the same experience. Don't worry.
Jose, When I downgraded from the buggy High Sierra to Sierra, I longer saw my Canon print driver. Canon’s site does not have supporting drivers, so I found third party CUPS driver. My computer is old in technology years and I can’t upgrade to Mojave. The CUPS driver is missing many things the Canon printer driver had, like showing current ink levels, and running a print test. Printing in Photoshop seems to be a huge problem, as the images look horrible. Canon customer service has been unhelpful. Do you have any advice for me? Thanking you ahead of time!
I'm sorry but being a MAC I have clue what to suggest.
I can find the gamma for the Epson Pro 3800 is set for 1.8, but there doesn't seem to be a way to change it to 2.2.
I'll look into this
Go to: Mode> custom> advanced.
It's there. Click on the gamma 1.8 and you will see a drop down menu with 2.2
@@cheo1949 you are too smart😱. I could have sworn I clicked on everything. Thanks 😊
Does anyone use CorelDraw?
The color management I wonder how to set for printing.
hi, jose, tell me PLEASE where can i download your standard print photo i need it to follow along with your first print from my new canon pro 100s
Join my Face Book Group.
Many files and profiles are available for free.
Or Google Outback Test Images
Jose Rodriguez hi, I have joined your Facebook group today but I can’t seem to find the photo in question,
www.northlight-images.co.uk/printer-test-images/
Jose Rodriguez I can't find your Facebook page that you're mentioned on this video....what's is the name if it please?
Did you look and read the video description? Right bellow the description are links to everything I offer including the Facebook Group.
Jtoolman Photo Printing Techie
Yes?
@@cheo1949 sorry did not read that. I found it and asked permission to join the FB group. Thanks
Where did you get the image????
It's no longer available from the original source but join my facebook group and get it and many other items from my FILES tab. Link to join is on my video descriptions.
I have a Canon pro100 , Mac book pro and PS 2019. Following you step by step when I get to my file/print menu it does not have the options that you have.I up dated my driver and no change.
The instructions I provide are only for Windows to Mac drivers configure totally different and I'm not a Mac User so I cannot really be much help when it comes to setting up the Mac driver supposed to be a bit easier than the windows actually
@@cheo1949 thanks for the quick reply . Is any other Mac user having this problem
Excellent Jose 😉
Thank you
I have a Canon Pixma ix6810... i know it's not one of the best, but it's all I can afford for now given my country's current situation. I cant find any information on ICM profiles for my printer I don't even know what ICM stands for lol. Can anyone point me to a starting direction? I've already Googled stuff, but nothing was helpful. Where do you get those ICM profiles for dowload?
When I click on ICM I only have the "input profile" and "rendering intent" options :(