What a novel idea! I have a 32 foot motorhome 30 amp service. Sometimes I plug my 120 volt power cord into my ecoflow delta. It powers all my AC DC circuits but I have to turn off my converter circuit breaker so my lithium house batteries (200 amp hours) don’t suck all the power from my delta power station. Congratulations on being a dc only camper!
Ever since I've seen the Licitti Battery Box, I've been obsessed with it. It's been a power house and so easy to use with my Hiker Trailer. I paired it with a Victron Smart Shut and a Power Queen 100Ahr battery and probably saved me 400 to 500 bucks over a store purchased power box like a Goal Zero or a Bluetti.
I am right there with you. Inadded the smart shunt and upgraded the MPPT to a Victron 75/15 inside the box with a HQST 100amh lipo battery. It was a tight squueze but I got it to fit and it works great!
@@adventuresofthememorymakers Hey, this is Kyle! I'm waiting for that install video!!! LOL! I'm very interested on how you fit that charge controller in that tight space!
@@squaredropadventures I just had another viewer request that video. I will try to get that out soon but there are only so many hours in a day. Just not enough time to get everything done.
I bet within a few years power stations will be incorporated in new RVs. Although you would need a large and expensive one to power A/C. Thanks for sharing.
I agree. Some of the smaller custom camper manufacturers are incorporating them into their builds already. It might be a while before we see them in the major manufacturers. Probably due to liability and insurance reasons.
I use a bluetti 500WH power station in my square drop for the last two years and it’s worked to power the light, max fan and 12v fridge, with a 100w panel it been just a little close. Just made up my mind to go with budget 100 ah LiFePo4 group 24 battery (took some researching to find budget company with good rep). Leaving out the inverter since I never use 110. With a 20 amp mmpt controller it’s running me around 350. Just could not get a 1000+wh power station for that price. But I do agree with you on how nice a power station is and how you will use it when you’re not camping.
Thank you for watching sir. Being able to use the power station outside of the camper when you're not actually camping is really nice. I really like items that have multiple uses.
Great episode. I've been building out a cargo trailer conversion, and I use a Bluetti AC200MAX as the sole power source solar charging and a small geenrator to charge when there isn't good sun access (we camp in the trees). Best way to do it IMHO.
Thank you very much for watching mike. Thank you for bringing up the gas generator issue. I think it's interesting how people who have a firm grasp and understanding of how all this works tend to carry all three of them with them. We have solar panels the portable power station and a small gas generator in the event that we just don't have any solar and need to charge things up. I'm going to touch on that in an upcoming video. Trying to take this in baby steps for everyone so I don't overwhelm people right off the bat LOL
You mentioned cutting the 12 vdc from the camper's converter. Couldn't you have used that 12 vdc as input to your 12-48 boost converter to MPPT to recharge the battery? It would have saved the cost and space for another charger. Although I suspect it would require routing a wire from the converter dc output to the front box so you could switch that output between converter/tow vehicle/solar.
Any chance we can get a peek inside the power box on how you changed out the solar controller? Mine is stuck with Velcro to the outside for now... Camper is still in the Cabin garage surrounded by 3' of snow. Spring is a coming... and thanks Sam for all you and Cindy do for this group, it is appreciated.
Thank you for watching. I have a list of videos to get out but there are only so many hours in the day. I have had several request to show what I did inside the Licitit power box so I will try to make that happen soon.
Hello Sam - another fantastic video, and the one I have been waiting for. I would love to do something similar for this on my Class C rig, but the issue of getting the correct wiring from the Licitti (I have one based on your Licitti video) to the 12v DC panel inside the camper is a bit beyond my skill set. The rig is set to have the house battery sit underneath the frame and it connects up similarly to a car battery with cables and posts, but where it goes from there I am not entirely sure. I'd love any initial thoughts, and if we need to dig deeper I'll email you. In short, do you think this can work in a Class C? Thanks.
Hello Tom and as always thank you for watching. Drop us an email at the adventuresofthememorymakers@gmail.com so we can discuss this further as I will need some more information.
How did you wire the boost converter? Did you run a new separate wire from the tow vehicle battery to the boost converter and then to the lithium battery on your camper?
On the tow vehicle I added a new lead from the battery that goes through a 30 amp resettable circuit breaker to a 12-volt relay that I can control from inside the cab. I pull power off the ignition side so it can only be on when the truck is running to run that relay. From the relay I ran a new wire back to the 7-way plug on the vehicle and tied into the 12 volt lead in the 7-way plug. Then I merely attached that wire on the camper to my 12-volt power converter. That way there is no direct connection between the vehicle electrical system and the lithium battery in the camper
@@adventuresofthememorymakers Thanks for the info. So to be clear, is the boost converter wired between the lithium battery and a 7-way plug or is it between the tow vehicle battery and the 7-way plug?
Great video! Thank you. I am still learning. Why do you need to convert to 48v into the MPPT? Isn't there loss in a conversion (I am just assuming)? Can you not go straight 12v into the MPPT? Thank you in advance for an response!
So typically mppt Chargers will not start charging the battery until the input voltage is 5 volts higher than the battery voltage. The great thing about an mppt charger is the take excess input voltage above the 13.4 it is going to use to charge the battery and it converts that into current. So it will take that 48 volts at 6 amps and change that into 13.4 volts at 15 amps. Since I'm powering that power converter off of the tow vehicle and the alternator while we're driving down the road in essence I have an endless supply of 12v power So I'm not worried about the loss of efficiency in the conversion process in that application.
@@jonathanturner6702 you could use a PWM charge controller but once you use a good MPPT and see the difference they make you will understand why I went with the Victron. The MPPT allows you to run higher voltage panels and convert that access voltage into amperage. Plus they adjust to changing conditions so much faster. I was a PWM holdout till I saw the differemce for myself.
@@adventuresofthememorymakers ok so I am just trying to make sense of this. You are using the mppt charge controller to charge the battery from the solor panels and the 12v power from the vehicle?
@@jonathanturner6702 , correct, that is what the switch on the left side selects. In the solar position it pullls power from the panels, in the tow vehivle position it pulls power from the tow vehicle through the 7 way whip, which feeds the 12-48volt power converter, that feeds the mppt charge controller.
Thank you for watching and yes you can. In fact I didn't show our typical travel setup but we carry a small 1200 watt inverter generator for exactly that purpose. The battery is essentially a storage device and if we don't have solar or ac we can use the tow vehicle or generator to top off the battery if needed.
Thank you for watching. Not a dumb question. So it depends on what size inverter you are running. For a window AC like this you would want atleast a 1000 watt inverter with 1200-1500 watt surge. A single 100 amh battery will only run that load about 4 hours so to be able to have AC all night long I would recommend at least 2000 wh or 200 amh of battery power.
Great video as usual I just ordered one a couple of days ago I’m curious how long it took for you to receive it once you placed your order, I didn’t receive any tracking numbers yet. Looks like they come from china. Thanks for all your great tear drop trailer videos.
Thank you very much for watching. Depends where it ships out of. I usually get it pretty quickly after I get the tracking. Mark Xu is good about responding to emails.
Yes sir, just make sure you isolate, protect, amd switch that power source to the 7 way. You also need a cheap 12v to what ever voltage you want power converter. I run a 12-48 volt converter at 6 amps. That is what actually powers the MPPT.
I have read UL-458 and that is another reason I chose the Licitti AC Heavy Duty power box. When being used as a 12v DC power source the power is coming directly from the 12v battery with no conversion process required. So in that aspect it is no different than using a stand alone 12v lithium battery. The AC charger for the battery in the power box is an external battery charger that is seperate from the power box and only used when the camper is at rest and under supervison. At the end if the day, while UL certification is the best practice it is not a legal requirement.
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Having a reliable power source when we go camping is imperative. This set up works great! Thank you!!!❤
Thank you for watching sweetheart. I went with the mppt controller over the pwm as per your suggestions 😉
@@adventuresofthememorymakers Its about time you started listening to me. I find it all so rivoting.......
What a novel idea! I have a 32 foot motorhome 30 amp service. Sometimes I plug my 120 volt power cord into my ecoflow delta. It powers all my AC DC circuits but I have to turn off my converter circuit breaker so my lithium house batteries (200 amp hours) don’t suck all the power from my delta power station. Congratulations on being a dc only camper!
Thank you for watching. When I rebuilt Cindy's 1968 Shasta Ibset it up in a very similiar fashion. It is just so simple and works great!
Ever since I've seen the Licitti Battery Box, I've been obsessed with it. It's been a power house and so easy to use with my Hiker Trailer. I paired it with a Victron Smart Shut and a Power Queen 100Ahr battery and probably saved me 400 to 500 bucks over a store purchased power box like a Goal Zero or a Bluetti.
I am right there with you. Inadded the smart shunt and upgraded the MPPT to a Victron 75/15 inside the box with a HQST 100amh lipo battery. It was a tight squueze but I got it to fit and it works great!
@@adventuresofthememorymakers Hey, this is Kyle! I'm waiting for that install video!!! LOL! I'm very interested on how you fit that charge controller in that tight space!
@@squaredropadventures I just had another viewer request that video. I will try to get that out soon but there are only so many hours in a day. Just not enough time to get everything done.
Sounds like a win for the eels today!
I bet within a few years power stations will be incorporated in new RVs. Although you would need a large and expensive one to power A/C. Thanks for sharing.
I agree. Some of the smaller custom camper manufacturers are incorporating them into their builds already. It might be a while before we see them in the major manufacturers. Probably due to liability and insurance reasons.
Another great video and great tech Sam. Always impressed with your modifications.
Thank you Sir. Happy Camping!
I use a bluetti 500WH power station in my square drop for the last two years and it’s worked to power the light, max fan and 12v fridge, with a 100w panel it been just a little close. Just made up my mind to go with budget 100 ah LiFePo4 group 24 battery (took some researching to find budget company with good rep). Leaving out the inverter since I never use 110. With a 20 amp mmpt controller it’s running me around 350. Just could not get a 1000+wh power station for that price. But I do agree with you on how nice a power station is and how you will use it when you’re not camping.
Thank you for watching sir. Being able to use the power station outside of the camper when you're not actually camping is really nice. I really like items that have multiple uses.
Thank you for another great video. I can’t wait for the next one. I always learn so much. Keep them coming.
We hope you have been taking notes because there is going to be a quiz when you get home!
Great video sam! You know it's a simple setup if Tom can understand😮
The good old KISS principle!
Great episode. I've been building out a cargo trailer conversion, and I use a Bluetti AC200MAX as the sole power source solar charging and a small geenrator to charge when there isn't good sun access (we camp in the trees). Best way to do it IMHO.
Thank you very much for watching mike. Thank you for bringing up the gas generator issue. I think it's interesting how people who have a firm grasp and understanding of how all this works tend to carry all three of them with them. We have solar panels the portable power station and a small gas generator in the event that we just don't have any solar and need to charge things up. I'm going to touch on that in an upcoming video. Trying to take this in baby steps for everyone so I don't overwhelm people right off the bat LOL
That's what I currently do (thanks to you) and use the mobile solar panels for recharge
If you can make it work for your application its a slick way to power your camper!
You mentioned cutting the 12 vdc from the camper's converter. Couldn't you have used that 12 vdc as input to your 12-48 boost converter to MPPT to recharge the battery? It would have saved the cost and space for another charger. Although I suspect it would require routing a wire from the converter dc output to the front box so you could switch that output between converter/tow vehicle/solar.
The reason I did not do it that way is because we very rarely have shore power as we are typically off grid campers.
Nice job Sam! Ive been running a very similar system and love it!
Thank you Brian!
Any chance we can get a peek inside the power box on how you changed out the solar controller? Mine is stuck with Velcro to the outside for now... Camper is still in the Cabin garage surrounded by 3' of snow. Spring is a coming... and thanks Sam for all you and Cindy do for this group, it is appreciated.
Thank you for watching. I have a list of videos to get out but there are only so many hours in the day. I have had several request to show what I did inside the Licitit power box so I will try to make that happen soon.
Hello Sam - another fantastic video, and the one I have been waiting for. I would love to do something similar for this on my Class C rig, but the issue of getting the correct wiring from the Licitti (I have one based on your Licitti video) to the 12v DC panel inside the camper is a bit beyond my skill set. The rig is set to have the house battery sit underneath the frame and it connects up similarly to a car battery with cables and posts, but where it goes from there I am not entirely sure. I'd love any initial thoughts, and if we need to dig deeper I'll email you. In short, do you think this can work in a Class C? Thanks.
Hello Tom and as always thank you for watching. Drop us an email at the adventuresofthememorymakers@gmail.com so we can discuss this further as I will need some more information.
@@adventuresofthememorymakers Will do.
How did you wire the boost converter? Did you run a new separate wire from the tow vehicle battery to the boost converter and then to the lithium battery on your camper?
On the tow vehicle I added a new lead from the battery that goes through a 30 amp resettable circuit breaker to a 12-volt relay that I can control from inside the cab. I pull power off the ignition side so it can only be on when the truck is running to run that relay. From the relay I ran a new wire back to the 7-way plug on the vehicle and tied into the 12 volt lead in the 7-way plug. Then I merely attached that wire on the camper to my 12-volt power converter. That way there is no direct connection between the vehicle electrical system and the lithium battery in the camper
@@adventuresofthememorymakers Thanks for the info. So to be clear, is the boost converter wired between the lithium battery and a 7-way plug or is it between the tow vehicle battery and the 7-way plug?
@@michigander58 between the 7 way plug and the selector switch for the solar controller input in the tongue box.
@@adventuresofthememorymakers That's what I thought. Thank you. Love your videos.
@@michigander58 thank you for taking the time to watch them!
Great video! Thank you. I am still learning. Why do you need to convert to 48v into the MPPT? Isn't there loss in a conversion (I am just assuming)? Can you not go straight 12v into the MPPT? Thank you in advance for an response!
So typically mppt Chargers will not start charging the battery until the input voltage is 5 volts higher than the battery voltage. The great thing about an mppt charger is the take excess input voltage above the 13.4 it is going to use to charge the battery and it converts that into current. So it will take that 48 volts at 6 amps and change that into 13.4 volts at 15 amps. Since I'm powering that power converter off of the tow vehicle and the alternator while we're driving down the road in essence I have an endless supply of 12v power So I'm not worried about the loss of efficiency in the conversion process in that application.
@adventuresofthememorymakers can't you use just any cheap charge controller to do this? Does it have to be an mppt controller?
@@jonathanturner6702 you could use a PWM charge controller but once you use a good MPPT and see the difference they make you will understand why I went with the Victron. The MPPT allows you to run higher voltage panels and convert that access voltage into amperage. Plus they adjust to changing conditions so much faster. I was a PWM holdout till I saw the differemce for myself.
@@adventuresofthememorymakers ok so I am just trying to make sense of this. You are using the mppt charge controller to charge the battery from the solor panels and the 12v power from the vehicle?
@@jonathanturner6702 , correct, that is what the switch on the left side selects. In the solar position it pullls power from the panels, in the tow vehivle position it pulls power from the tow vehicle through the 7 way whip, which feeds the 12-48volt power converter, that feeds the mppt charge controller.
Could you charge that battery with a generator using the extension cord or is there some reason you shouldn't do that?
Thank you for watching and yes you can. In fact I didn't show our typical travel setup but we carry a small 1200 watt inverter generator for exactly that purpose. The battery is essentially a storage device and if we don't have solar or ac we can use the tow vehicle or generator to top off the battery if needed.
Does the lithium battery run A/C? It's probably a dumb question.
Thank you for watching. Not a dumb question. So it depends on what size inverter you are running. For a window AC like this you would want atleast a 1000 watt inverter with 1200-1500 watt surge. A single 100 amh battery will only run that load about 4 hours so to be able to have AC all night long I would recommend at least 2000 wh or 200 amh of battery power.
Great video as usual I just ordered one a couple of days ago I’m curious how long it took for you to receive it once you placed your order, I didn’t receive any tracking numbers yet. Looks like they come from china. Thanks for all your great tear drop trailer videos.
Thank you very much for watching. Depends where it ships out of. I usually get it pretty quickly after I get the tracking. Mark Xu is good about responding to emails.
Can you provide a wiring diagram for those who are interested in a similar setup?
Thank you for watching. I have had so many questions about this I may put out part 2 answering those questions and share a simple schematic.
I didn't connect the12vdc from the TV to the camper.
Love it!
Thank you sir!
You should add insulation to keep the power station from getting to cold cold is not good for power station batteries
I considered that but we are not cold weather campers so I opted not to.
So rather than a dc to dc charger you just ran your red off your 7 flat to the input on an mppt charge controller? Never thought of that.
Yes sir, just make sure you isolate, protect, amd switch that power source to the 7 way. You also need a cheap 12v to what ever voltage you want power converter. I run a 12-48 volt converter at 6 amps. That is what actually powers the MPPT.
Portable power stations are not UL-458 safety certified for use in mobile applications and should not be used for such purposes.
I have read UL-458 and that is another reason I chose the Licitti AC Heavy Duty power box. When being used as a 12v DC power source the power is coming directly from the 12v battery with no conversion process required. So in that aspect it is no different than using a stand alone 12v lithium battery.
The AC charger for the battery in the power box is an external battery charger that is seperate from the power box and only used when the camper is at rest and under supervison.
At the end if the day, while UL certification is the best practice it is not a legal requirement.
Regulatory entities are not there for citizens...they serve the industries and the financiers of industry...all of them
Good idea,too many details, maybe a list of steps
Thank you for the ideas.