I know the pain …. I made nothing CLOSE to what you make! I was in the US Navy in the 90’s… I made $628 a month as a bootcamp Sailor! Out on Deployment after Deployment! No communication At All! Takes a particular cloth cut person to be a Sailor! Salute to you……
BINGO! You hit it on the head. Absolutely true all you said. It's a tough life. I hung on long enough to save money. I ended up going to an aircraft maintenance school in Utica, NY. Best investment I ever made. Shipboard life is fast money and has a large burn out factor. Not good mentally for most. You give up too much. I work 4 days on 3 off on a typical work week as an aircraft mechanic. I've got 3 years left for retirement. I also have good medical plus VA benefits. Save your money and get into something you really want to do. Save enough to cover schooling plus expenses. Don't get trapped. You're a good man.God bless you and your family.
Thank you for touching on, what to expect as a female. I’m gonna update you once I get my journey started! My Twic appointment is coming soon! Thank you tre
Glad you're doing this, Gucci! (Thought I forgot Stan Beck's nickname for ya, didn't ya?) I try to get this point across to students and I don't think many of them get it. I try to explain to them that this is more than a job, but a "lifestyle" and you gotta learn to have a passion for it and that means making sacrifices. I try to recommend your Vlog as much as I can. Keep doing it! You're making a difference! Btw.... I'm having to sell my house in Sylvan Hills. Stay safe out there, kid!
I’m about to be a baker for MSC then I come across this video of this cutie I remember! It’s almost been 5 years! I was proud of you then and I’m still proud of you now! I still talk about you till this day! The 18 year old who saved up so much money! Worked hard and was smart to not spend. Look at you now!!
This video was helpful. I don't have familial support and been on own since childhood. I think having access to books,nature, activity,gyms,etc could be helpful to deal with length of time on Ships. Do you guys ever get to stop at dock and go to hotels,casinos and experience the nightlife of the places/countries you sail by???
My bro in law was a Navy officer on those Naval MSC oil replenishment ships and he told me he had a fellow officer's mother died and they were out in the middle of sea and he was plain miserable that he couldn't get off that ship to go to her funeral.
Thank you for doing this video my boyfriend just left for his training and I wanted to know more about the job. I know it will be hard. if there any advise you could give I would feel blessed to receive it
I’m so sorry I’m seeing this so late .. the best advice I could give you both is for you to have patience & he will need you more than ever now.. my girlfriend was a big part of my mental health when I first got started .. & as for him ... I would tell him to just don’t allow the money to control your life .. he still has a life at home .. & remember family is more important than anything & it may start off slow but it’s well worth it .. Good Luck to you both 💪🏽
I'm also doing it for the traveling? But what's the secret that people feel like quitting and don't like it while others are doing it for 20 years making a career?
Hey, one topic I don't see being discussed is sleeping quarters. I know this will vary, depending type of ship, but what is typical for most, especially entry level?- berthing (6-8 people, bunks in one room, shared head)? or small private cabin/bed? thanks man
When I was starting out entry level.. I always had my own room ... it’s pretty rare that you share rooms .. especially on American flag ships .. maybe in the navy but not the merchant navy
@@Tr3TV2022 Good to know. Now, I heard that with MSC, its more random, maybe likely to have shared cabins, since theres just more people on MSC ships in general vs. ships crewed by union/SIU.. you think this is the case? thanks again
I see you’ve been sailing with SIU, and I have too. But I haven’t recently due to them (SIU) still requiring mariner’s to be vaccinated. Check out Grand River Navigation out of Traverse City, Michigan. Their schedule is 28/14, $285 a day, MM&P Union Inland Division, $100 extra added to your daily rate if you go past day 28, off for 2 months during the winter, because the Great Lakes shut down, no working dues unlike SIU, unemployment when your off for the 2 months, $350 yearly clothing allowance, and of course health benefits. And I believe their initial dues is $1,000, but they give you a year or 2 to pay it off. And their monthly dues are $150 a month I believe. I applied last nite. Just another option for yourself, and other mariner’s you know. Peace
Appreciate the video. Honestly thought at first it was gonna be just some petty gripes or something. But wholesome info for sure. If I'm honest with myself, I strongly believe, to the point of beinng convinced, that all the major events in my life have been to mold me for this experience. I dont like using social media, (Besides YT for information on topics Im interested in) But I log onto FB maybe once or twice every month for about an hour. I dont use twitter or instagram or anything else. Dont like having a phone either. (Actually went without one for 2 years.) And honestly, I do enjoy the company of other people, but Im prone to being alone and it doesnt bother me much. Mental health wise, thats a big thing I've had to be honest with myself in considering this path. (About the last 3 years, but always had a desire for the sea since about 5 years old) When I joined the military, I found out it was too soon for me. I was just out of HS, parents were getting divorced at the time, both became alcoholics because of it, lots of family drama etc. Plus I was still a kid and had a LOT of growing up to do. But 12+ years later, a lot of "bad s**t" has happened but it made me stronger and more resilient. Biggest reason is faith in God. Like an actual relationship with Him. Now that may not be for everyone, and I get that, but thats pulled me through a lot of stuff I can even begin to explain. But Im rambling now, so again, thanks for the video mate. Maybe someday we'll meet. Its a small world afterall. Take care out there and looking forward to watching more of your videos and hearing your perspective on things.
I can’t believe I just read all this but thanks for sharing.. always put yourself first man 💯💪🏽 you know yourself better than anyone so put yourself in a position where you’ll be happy with the decision you made .. thanks for watching
I thought about going but when I seen this video I don’t wanna go no more I’m glad I watch this video cuz I was thinking the same thing but I won’t for sure what it really was
No ... I’ve never worked or heard of anyone working with one .. some ships have WiFi .. some don’t ... some ships have cell service because there close enough to land but I always put it out there that at times you might not have service or WiFi ... satellite phones are extremely expensive too
I hear ya true true. For me I couldn't care less about holidays or concerts or even wifi tbh. No friends, not much family, no woman. Little money. Maybe it's doable for me but then again I think I would be sea sick though so maybe it's not a good idea. Thanks for the truth as you said working 7 days is taxing for the mind. Good man.
Anxiety is a big part of seafaring life.But it’s the price you have to pay.I went to sea over period of 41 and know how you feel.But once get up the gang way, get situated, and start movin’ and groovin’ that feeling will instantly vanish. You’re not alone.
Every decent paying job is male dominated. And these same jobs are also White male dominated. That's America. But we need more Black people and women in high paying workplaces. Whether people realize it or not, sharing power increases everyone's power. Including the ones who share their own power. Maybe especially those who share their own. We The People could use all the power we can get.
Bro if you don’t mind me asking how much were making per month before u left ? Cause I’m currently working in a company that operates within the US (rivers and the gulf mainly) and I work 28 days and be off 14. A month I currently bring home 4300-5000 which ain’t too bad and at the same time I’m not gone for that long and I have phone service at least 95% of the time. I ask cause I was thinking about going into the gulf cause I think they make more money but I’d like to know about how much to see if it’s worth it. Thanks in advance !
You can make $6,000.00 a week if you work dangerous jobs and your careful in land doing prevailing wage work...I like the ocean..and going fishing but...I rather sleep at home with my family...I don't think I could be in the ocean for long time...thanks for the info!
not to mention that almost all west coast MSC ships are littered with people from third world countries and last I checked English is supposed to be spoken in the work space
good on you bruv for speaking about this! also i thought as an AB you'd be making 10k a month not 5k cuz i remember in another video i asked and you said 40k in 120 days as an AB
Before taxes & in each video I say it all depends on the ship ... every ship pays different... then you have AB Blue , AB green & AB maintenance ... so it really depends
Before taxes & in each video I say it all depends on the ship ... every ship pays different... then you have AB Blue , AB green & AB maintenance ... so it really depends
What did you do before sailing? What made you think this would be great? What was your life and or bank account like before sailing? Did you lose sight of gratitude?
When you join MSC you take photos of your family with you because you'll probably never see them again. You're there to make money and work that's it! MSC took care of me. Great company to work for you have nothing to worry about.
The covid thing was real though. Imagine doing 10 months but you're only making $1600 a month and every couple of weeks you go a couple days without sleeping for replenishment at sea. Never sleep for longer than a 5-hour period of time. Be happy you actually get paid to go through the pain, unlike people who are in the military.
You keep bringing up wifi. For thousands of year's sailors has been on the ocean. Without mail, wifi, phones, t.v.'s. I spent 11 years in the U.S. Navy. That was before wifi. You work stay busy, time flies by. The Navy, the military in general misses out on birthdays and holidays, anniversaries. Unlike Merchant Mariner we don't choose when to deploy.
I keep bring up Wi-Fi because if you go look at my comments that’s all people keep asking about .. this ain’t the 70s & 80s where people are willing to go 4-6 months without talking to the wife or kids .. the Merchant Marines miss birthdays & holidays as well .. you have made no point here sir good day 🫡
I retook the exam yesterday and I qualified for PR AO BM ABH ABF ABE You think I'm OK with those rates or you don't recommend it, PR is alright but the others are hard labor. I'm up against the wall
This is a different generation bro. technology is part of everyone's life. it will be more difficult for people nowadays to go with tech. we are accustomed to accessing everything at our fingertips.
This life is not for everyone it really is a small group of people that can handle the hardship of this work. In other words if your a pussy or momma’s boy this isn’t the place for you. Because you will not find sympathy from others who work and live the life. You need jail mentality, period.
feeling this man. all the money in the world can't buy back time.
Most TH-cam channels are people trying to sell stuff. Love that you're just trying to share information.
💯💯💯 thanks
I know the pain …. I made nothing CLOSE to what you make! I was in the US Navy in the 90’s… I made $628 a month as a bootcamp Sailor! Out on Deployment after Deployment! No communication At All! Takes a particular cloth cut person to be a Sailor! Salute to you……
And I appreciate the realness bro, needed this deeper insight 💪🏽
Thank you! This is important information, put in a very real and easy to understand way. Happy trails and all the best to you and yours
Really appreciate you taking your time to make this im thinking about join but your the first to say what you did
BINGO! You hit it on the head. Absolutely true all you said. It's a tough life. I hung on long enough to save money. I ended up going to an aircraft maintenance school in Utica, NY. Best investment I ever made. Shipboard life is fast money and has a large burn out factor. Not good mentally for most. You give up too much. I work 4 days on 3 off on a typical work week as an aircraft mechanic. I've got 3 years left for retirement. I also have good medical plus VA benefits. Save your money and get into something you really want to do. Save enough to cover schooling plus expenses. Don't get trapped. You're a good man.God bless you and your family.
Do you know any other jobs that have days on and days off rotation.? Or similar with a lot of home time?
Truck driving
@@Tr3TV2022 My driving record messed up. I already tried to get into trucking. Record is horrible
I want to become a pilot one day and was thinking about exploring this route to save up for the program
@@dwill6935 yeah same here.
Thank you Tre for these videos. I am considering this path and these help.
Thank you for touching on, what to expect as a female. I’m gonna update you once I get my journey started! My Twic appointment is coming soon! Thank you tre
How was your journey
Glad you're doing this, Gucci! (Thought I forgot Stan Beck's nickname for ya, didn't ya?)
I try to get this point across to students and I don't think many of them get it. I try to explain to them that this is more than a job, but a "lifestyle" and you gotta learn to have a passion for it and that means making sacrifices.
I try to recommend your Vlog as much as I can. Keep doing it! You're making a difference!
Btw.... I'm having to sell my house in Sylvan Hills.
Stay safe out there, kid!
Thank you for info! New woman getting into this game, and this definitely helped!
Same
I appreciate you putting this out there for us, but I'm prior military working at a warehouse. I'm waiting for my assignment, and excited.
How was it
Hey man as always I really appreciate the videos. Keep it up !
Thanks man ! Will do 💪🏽 I appreciate the support
"Which half of the time... they're wrong!" Laughed a bit to loud at that.
I’m about to be a baker for MSC then I come across this video of this cutie I remember! It’s almost been 5 years! I was proud of you then and I’m still proud of you now! I still talk about you till this day! The 18 year old who saved up so much money! Worked hard and was smart to not spend. Look at you now!!
MSC doesnt give a lot of tike off. Only a month and you have to work 4 months straight. Why not join SIU?
@@adrianblair9221did you try it
Good lookin out for this one bro 💪🏼
Yesssirrr 💪🏽💯
Can we bring a mobile wifi on the boats?
Straight Facts 💯
Missing holidays and concert I don’t want to go to sounds wonderful to me lmao
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂 that part!! Money I won’t be spending 😂
This video was helpful. I don't have familial support and been on own since childhood. I think having access to books,nature, activity,gyms,etc could be helpful to deal with length of time on Ships.
Do you guys ever get to stop at dock and go to hotels,casinos and experience the nightlife of the places/countries you sail by???
Yes you get to get off for a bit at port. Depending on the ship
Yes they have port calls
In the navy when on sea duty we went on 6-9 months deployments, one time I remember we were deployed for a year.
@@tonya8117 This isn't the navy though, you're on ship for anywhere from 90-120 days. You choose.
@@NorthwestMarinerdo they just go back to where they were once the term is up if 90-120 days
Had to clock in to this I’m 23 finna do this no rent no kids just save my money jobs is horrible where I live so I’m ready for this
Bro I’m 22. My current job is coo but it’s not enough you feel me bro
@@brandobee2264are you trying this now
Good stuff bro. All facts
Good points breddah
My bro in law was a Navy officer on those Naval MSC oil replenishment ships and he told me he had a fellow officer's mother died and they were out in the middle of sea and he was plain miserable that he couldn't get off that ship to go to her funeral.
How much do they start out? $$$?
Bro I got everything I need. I’m just wondering how to apply in SIU?
Thanks bro. Appreciate you putting this out there.
Thank you for doing this video my boyfriend just left for his training and I wanted to know more about the job. I know it will be hard. if there any advise you could give I would feel blessed to receive it
I’m so sorry I’m seeing this so late .. the best advice I could give you both is for you to have patience & he will need you more than ever now.. my girlfriend was a big part of my mental health when I first got started .. & as for him ... I would tell him to just don’t allow the money to control your life .. he still has a life at home .. & remember family is more important than anything & it may start off slow but it’s well worth it .. Good Luck to you both 💪🏽
I'm also doing it for the traveling? But what's the secret that people feel like quitting and don't like it while others are doing it for 20 years making a career?
Thanks for your videos. I feel that i have to pass on MSC. I cant go on months without family and friends.
Hey, one topic I don't see being discussed is sleeping quarters. I know this will vary, depending type of ship, but what is typical for most, especially entry level?- berthing (6-8 people, bunks in one room, shared head)? or small private cabin/bed? thanks man
When I was starting out entry level.. I always had my own room ... it’s pretty rare that you share rooms .. especially on American flag ships .. maybe in the navy but not the merchant navy
@@Tr3TV2022 Good to know. Now, I heard that with MSC, its more random, maybe likely to have shared cabins, since theres just more people on MSC ships in general vs. ships crewed by union/SIU.. you think this is the case? thanks again
Good video young brotha, I’m a sailor and all you say is true. I enjoy the lifestyle it works for me, but yes other’s it does not. Peace
I see you’ve been sailing with SIU, and I have too. But I haven’t recently due to them (SIU) still requiring mariner’s to be vaccinated. Check out Grand River Navigation out of Traverse City, Michigan. Their schedule is 28/14, $285 a day, MM&P Union Inland Division, $100 extra added to your daily rate if you go past day 28, off for 2 months during the winter, because the Great Lakes shut down, no working dues unlike SIU, unemployment when your off for the 2 months, $350 yearly clothing allowance, and of course health benefits. And I believe their initial dues is $1,000, but they give you a year or 2 to pay it off. And their monthly dues are $150 a month I believe. I applied last nite. Just another option for yourself, and other mariner’s you know. Peace
@@davidconnelly6206how is it going
Is this still available
Thank you for this video. You said 90/120 days. Just curious is it not 21 days on 21 days off??
No it’s not .. that’s mainly on the river .. I work deep sea
Wow thank you for this, on the woman perspective if they are looking to join, because I have been researching on this career
Appreciate the video. Honestly thought at first it was gonna be just some petty gripes or something. But wholesome info for sure. If I'm honest with myself, I strongly believe, to the point of beinng convinced, that all the major events in my life have been to mold me for this experience. I dont like using social media, (Besides YT for information on topics Im interested in) But I log onto FB maybe once or twice every month for about an hour. I dont use twitter or instagram or anything else. Dont like having a phone either. (Actually went without one for 2 years.) And honestly, I do enjoy the company of other people, but Im prone to being alone and it doesnt bother me much.
Mental health wise, thats a big thing I've had to be honest with myself in considering this path. (About the last 3 years, but always had a desire for the sea since about 5 years old) When I joined the military, I found out it was too soon for me. I was just out of HS, parents were getting divorced at the time, both became alcoholics because of it, lots of family drama etc. Plus I was still a kid and had a LOT of growing up to do. But 12+ years later, a lot of "bad s**t" has happened but it made me stronger and more resilient. Biggest reason is faith in God. Like an actual relationship with Him. Now that may not be for everyone, and I get that, but thats pulled me through a lot of stuff I can even begin to explain.
But Im rambling now, so again, thanks for the video mate. Maybe someday we'll meet. Its a small world afterall. Take care out there and looking forward to watching more of your videos and hearing your perspective on things.
I can’t believe I just read all this but thanks for sharing.. always put yourself first man 💯💪🏽 you know yourself better than anyone so put yourself in a position where you’ll be happy with the decision you made .. thanks for watching
You are correct‼️‼️ I have been with MSC for 14 years😒😫😤
I thought about going but when I seen this video I don’t wanna go no more I’m glad I watch this video cuz I was thinking the same thing but I won’t for sure what it really was
Do you know of any Mariners who invest in satellite phones? Is that fairly common?
No ... I’ve never worked or heard of anyone working with one .. some ships have WiFi .. some don’t ... some ships have cell service because there close enough to land but I always put it out there that at times you might not have service or WiFi ... satellite phones are extremely expensive too
I hear ya true true. For me I couldn't care less about holidays or concerts or even wifi tbh. No friends, not much family, no woman. Little money. Maybe it's doable for me but then again I think I would be sea sick though so maybe it's not a good idea. Thanks for the truth as you said working 7 days is taxing for the mind. Good man.
Is the 💰💰💰 still good? I used to do it but got away from it
Of course
Spent 12 years in the USN we were underway 6 to9 months a year!!
Most definitely your mind body and spirit got to be right for a job like this. That's why people quit.
Aye man, how be? thx for all this info, what can you tell me about the Med Serv officer? what's it like for them daily on board. TIA
I just got selected as MSO and about to start NEO in a couple of days. I’d be happy to let you know
You damn good Bro 👍, will join soon
That’s what I can’t do the union places 28 on 14 on is my max
Now I'm nervous and worried...I got selected for supply utilityman by msc 😔
Hey any updates? I just got selected as a SU. Is it worth it ?
Anxiety is a big part of seafaring life.But it’s the price you have to pay.I went to sea over period of 41 and know how you feel.But once get up the gang way, get situated, and start movin’ and groovin’ that feeling will instantly vanish.
You’re not alone.
I did ask you on another video do they “Require the vaccine” all I’m looking for is a yes or a no answer.
Every decent paying job is male dominated.
And these same jobs are also White male dominated.
That's America.
But we need more Black people and women in high paying workplaces. Whether people realize it or not, sharing power increases everyone's power. Including the ones who share their own power. Maybe especially those who share their own.
We The People could use all the power we can get.
Spoken like a true Gen Z’er. MSC is a career that is for the strong.
One word, SACRIFICE, anything that is worth requires ...,,,...
Good job👌🏾⚓💜
Bro if you don’t mind me asking how much were making per month before u left ?
Cause I’m currently working in a company that operates within the US (rivers and the gulf mainly) and I work 28 days and be off 14. A month I currently bring home 4300-5000 which ain’t too bad and at the same time I’m not gone for that long and I have phone service at least 95% of the time.
I ask cause I was thinking about going into the gulf cause I think they make more money but I’d like to know about how much to see if it’s worth it.
Thanks in advance !
what company brother? im 20 and looking to get into it
@@sxnflower3611 it’s called ACBL bro
Towboating company
@@edil9219are you a deckhand fam? Or what type of experience do I need to start
@@knowledgeispower5104 yeah bro. I started as a deckhand
That’s the starting position
@@knowledgeispower5104 yeah bro. I started as a deckhand. There was no experience needed
Nah man…I’m glad I came across this shit….I’m glad I didn’t get a chance to get on I’m all set…
The money good but it’s good for a reason … they don’t tell you what come with it
@@Tr3TV2022 well im glad u did.
🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
You can make $6,000.00 a week if you work dangerous jobs and your careful in land doing prevailing wage work...I like the ocean..and going fishing but...I rather sleep at home with my family...I don't think I could be in the ocean for long time...thanks for the info!
Completely understand
@@Tr3TV2022 I feel you big time and I appreciate all your video's great information...keep it up
@@extraNaz Can you tell me more about how to make 6000 a week? What type of job is it?
@@adrianblair9221 own a trap house
@@brandobee2264 Lmfao🤣
not to mention that almost all west coast MSC ships are littered with people from third world countries and last I checked English is supposed to be spoken in the work space
good on you bruv for speaking about this! also i thought as an AB you'd be making 10k a month not 5k cuz i remember in another video i asked and you said 40k in 120 days as an AB
Before taxes & in each video I say it all depends on the ship ... every ship pays different... then you have AB Blue , AB green & AB maintenance ... so it really depends
Before taxes & in each video I say it all depends on the ship ... every ship pays different... then you have AB Blue , AB green & AB maintenance ... so it really depends
@@Tr3TV2022 I appreciate the info! It's all very new to me! I don't begin my apprenticeship until may 17th!
Good luck man .. stay focused.. & remember the pay out is greater than the sacrifice
@@Tr3TV2022 yessir! Appreciate you boss
Can you have pets in MSC? Like a turtle or a fishtank?
Bro this is work
Everything has a price.Seafaring isn’t for everyone. If got something else stay home.
So glad you made this video.
The way I see it: there is no fun in forced slavery, even if it does pay you a lot.
What did you do before sailing? What made you think this would be great? What was your life and or bank account like before sailing? Did you lose sight of gratitude?
When you join MSC you take photos of your family with you because you'll probably never see them again. You're there to make money and work that's it! MSC took care of me. Great company to work for you have nothing to worry about.
I'm looking to join msc [culinary ] how do they feel about hand tattoos
You should go to college and get your degree you could be an AWESOME HR person, you are real and empathic
Thank You Fam 💯 I really got to think about that one .. that actually a great idea 🤙🏾
The covid thing was real though. Imagine doing 10 months but you're only making $1600 a month and every couple of weeks you go a couple days without sleeping for replenishment at sea. Never sleep for longer than a 5-hour period of time. Be happy you actually get paid to go through the pain, unlike people who are in the military.
All my family is dead and gone already so no time lost for me
Post Malone concert is what I don’t care about.
yo you can keep your dreads?
Yea .. when your out there on that water they don’t care bro
If accepted im paying for offline youtube.
You keep bringing up wifi. For thousands of year's sailors has been on the ocean. Without mail, wifi, phones, t.v.'s. I spent 11 years in the U.S. Navy. That was before wifi. You work stay busy, time flies by. The Navy, the military in general misses out on birthdays and holidays, anniversaries. Unlike Merchant Mariner we don't choose when to deploy.
I keep bring up Wi-Fi because if you go look at my comments that’s all people keep asking about .. this ain’t the 70s & 80s where people are willing to go 4-6 months without talking to the wife or kids .. the Merchant Marines miss birthdays & holidays as well .. you have made no point here sir good day 🫡
I retook the exam yesterday and I qualified for
PR
AO
BM
ABH
ABF
ABE
You think I'm OK with those rates or you don't recommend it, PR is alright but the others are hard labor. I'm up against the wall
This is a different generation bro. technology is part of everyone's life. it will be more difficult for people nowadays to go with tech. we are accustomed to accessing everything at our fingertips.
No WiFi . Far from home ...AND Im black ?! Say less. They can keep the $
There are people committing suicide on dry land. If you are weak and needy person, stay on the beach. Get a job on the Railroad.
Shit ain’t for everybody fasho lol
Which railroad
This life is not for everyone it really is a small group of people that can handle the hardship of this work. In other words if your a pussy or momma’s boy this isn’t the place for you. Because you will not find sympathy from others who work and live the life. You need jail mentality, period.
Lmfao I only did 5 hours in jail and wanted to leave
Hmmm you are always losing time so might as well do something with it