I got this bike about a month ago from Electroheads, and can say i love it. I have also found the range to be around 45-55kms for me but i weight around 85kg + carry a heavy bag. I would say its on par with the estarli e-20. Im ok with the saddle personally, but would change it if i was usuing the bike on 1+ hour rides. Rides fine on the gravel paths, and as its a carbon belt i found cleaning the bike really easy! I will get the mud guards for the winter. I do recommend the bike overall - good luck all! Thanks Electroheads
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just bought this bike and I love it so far I plan on using it even for deliveries part time (uber eats) I will say if you buy it remember to buy the battery lock accessory since if the thief is knowledgable they'll try to steal your battery
Wow, I just came across a new project called freebeat's Morph 2-in-1 e-Bike. As an ebike user, this caught my attention. The video showcasing the outstanding features of freebeat Morph e-bike had me impressed. The ability to charge the bike in indoor mode is a game-changer! The powerful 750W motor, 80Nm torque, and top speed of 20mph are remarkable. The 80mm front suspension and puncture-resistant fat tires ensure a smooth ride on any terrain. The Smart Saddle Detection+ feature and the ability to generate CO2-free miles from indoor rides are truly innovative. I am excited to support this groundbreaking project!
Eilis, another truly cracking review, you have made this bike a must-get. It is one of the most balanced, informative and helpful reviews and covers all of the key points. Love the outfits, it really adds to the review when you are popping up in a whole variety of different kit.
It's a paid review😂 Reality of things is that you can't ride up a steep hill and the gearing is too low They have endless problems with their bikes I'm talking from a previous customer point of view😢
@@winniepeg2020 that could be interesting info if it were more detailed: who is "they", the manufacturer or the retailer? And what does "their bikes" refer to? Would you care to list the "endless" problems you have encountered? There is no such thing as a "free" review, all reviews are somehow paid for. And obviously, no bike drivetrain will be able to beat the laws of physics -- @Electroheads make it clear in other reviews, if you have certain types of terrain in your use case, certain bikes will not be for you.
Man I love this channel so much useful info. Immediately went looking for hindsight sunglasses! That's the worst part of cycling is looking over your shoulder without crashing! Amazing
Glad to help! If you end up purchasing we'd really appreciate if you can buy through our store as every little helps ❤ electroheads.com/products/hindsight-artemis
While watching your excellent deep dive on the ADO 20 I was reminded of the many different joys of riding. It is a real blast to go explore all the parks of a city by bike, something I have done here in San Jose and south SF Bay. One of the other fun things is to go riding and stop for a nice bite to eat, I have found a real wealth of Indian, Asian, Mexican, Vietnamese foodie places by doing this, lots of great treats while exploring and exercising. You see a completely different side of a city/place by biking. Anyway, right after I watched this video a BeardMeetsFood video showed up on the play list and torqued my brain into a weird thought. Why not do a BearMeetsFood challenge as an episode, something like ride around as many bike friendly cool eatery places in London(or other city) and at the same time get Beards take on eBike's. Maybe even kit him out with the right bike for "Foodie eBiking" for the effort... Tips on bike friendly hotels/hostels in London might also be cool to drop in your videos from time to time, London looks like a really fun place to bike tour in...
Found this bike on in some of your earlier vids, immediately knew it was the bike I wanted, but first watched some other videos just to make sure, and I still ended up wanting it, so I place my order last Saturday from your store, looking forward to receiving (estimated between Thursday and Monday)and using it for my commute to save money on fuel. Watching this video has gotten me excited and impatient, keep hoping when I check my phone that I have received an email with the tracking number.
Hello! Congrats on the purchase. I don't want to risk getting on the wrong side of GDPR rules, but if you are who I think you are, then we definitely have your order. I'll check in with the team today and ask them to hurry, hurry, hurry!
@@loushared6602 my bike arrived on Wednesday, used it to commute to work on Thursday and Friday and it was great, I haven't ridden a bike in probably 10 years but it was super easy to get back in to it, even handles hills quite well, definitely feel hills but didn't struggle, it is great. If you are considering it, would recommend getting it. Would also recommend the electroheads store to buy it from, they took care of me very well and even replying to emails within minutes of sending them even after customer support closing time.
I also bought the Air 20 bike from Ado. I agree with Eili's feelings about the bike. The saddle is uncomfortable and should be replaced, but it's a common problem with bikes and you can't fault the manufacturer. Don't get me wrong, riding the bike is a lot of fun. Also like Eilis, I have to say that on inclines and here you also have the feeling of being physically active, i.e. having done something and not driving from a to b on a battery like with a scooter. But what disappoints me is that the manufacturer offers a range of 100KM but in reality I only get 42 kilometers. The support from them told me that they reached 100 kilometers in an in-house environment (i.e. not outside in the wind) and at 15 km/h an hour. In my opinion, this is not a realistic test and should be reconsidered. I'm about 1.68 cm tall and weigh 64 kg. Also, my battery doesn't fully charge, 92-94%. The navigation has also been activated in the meantime, but if you deviate from the recommended route, it is not recalculated, so it is currently unusable again. As one of the first customers, I also find it a pity that the Ado Air was gradually expanded in the shop (dampers, magnets, transport bag, etc.). The charging speed of the battery is also not up to date at 4-6 hours. I also find some spare parts on the shop page just too expensive if you google, aliexpress or otherwise look at the same time. I would give the bike 70/100 points. If all the shortcomings are gradually addressed by the company then 85 / 100 points. But if you initially state that your bike is lighter than it is, if you state ranges that do not correspond to reality, then you have already fallen for their trick. Ado would do well to be more honest from the start. Once again a damn good and above all honest review from Electrobikes and Eilis in particular ;)
Completely hear you! The range claim in this industry is one that has left us scratching our heads here in the studio. It's the same for electric cars - there's one range claim and then the 'real world' number. We've been talking about covering this in a video as it's not a good look for all these companies. Add ons should also be offered at a lower price point for early customers as you helped them get to where they are. But as you say - all that aside it's a fab contender in the folding e-bike sector.
Try checking in the app at what voltage the battery is set. If it's anything other than 36V, then it would explain your battery and range issues a bit. Also if you have set it up to have 5 riding modes, change it back to 3 - the extra 2 don't really do anything and drain the battery more
@@temorinkaari Thank you for the tip with the 36v setting, i will check that later. yeah that 5 riding modes i have tested too, its useless but had similiar range like 3 ride modes, but no effect at all. maybe it makes sense on the 350w motor, i dont know. yesterday i have orderd the magnets on ali for 4 euros, on ados website 20 euros, make your own thoughts on this... right now i have mixed feelings about the quality of the battery since its not chargable up to 100%, can you charge your battery till 100% and it is show on display and app ? also i miss direct assist like on escooters where the motor prompts directly on your first push to pedal. this is only possible with the throttle on the international 350w version.. Thank you
@@sarbaso i don't own the bike yet, but i've seen a lot of reviews and discussions about it. If your battery doesn't charge fully that's usually an indication of wrong voltage setting - if it's set higher, the controller will see the battery at 36V and think it's discharged, and when it gets much lower, it will think that the battery is depleted, even if it still has charge. As for the magnets, i saw someone saying they also ordered from aliexpress and they were very weak and didn't hold the bike together, but i'm also interested to see what you will think. Ado magnets should be better, but who knows 🤷
@@temorinkaari Hi, here is my feedback, i did a firmware for the display and after that i was not able to choose the voltage. Ado sends me a replacement battery and a display. at the end it was the fault of the display showing that the battery is not fully charged. I thought it was the battery and the bms. THE BN02-US Display fix my problems. The magentes from ali also has arrived and i attached them to the bike. The magnet is very very strong so you can easy spend 4 Euros without worries.
I purchased an ADO Air 20 Pro about 3 weeks ago and have about 350 miles on it. I replaced the saddle with a Brooks B17, I have the same saddle on my 26" bike and a saddle bag with tools to repair and inflate a punctured tire. I am quite used to the feel of the saddle and I wanted to be able to use the bag on both bikes. I got rid of the headlight that ships with the bike, it was mounted too low, it illuminated the front tire and fender and cast a shadow on the road, I tried elevating the angle of the beam higher and found that in order to not cast the beam on the tire and fender I would aiming the beam toward oncoming traffic. Also it was not bright enough to suit me. I mounted a headlight on the handlebar (where it belongs) that is very bright and has it's own power source, conserving some energy can be applied to the power train. I also purchase a bottle sized supplementary battery that ADO instructs to mount on the frame. That was very poorly conceived, the frame has a curved surface with a smooth finish, and the battery will slide to one side of the bike rolling over just a few bumps on the road. So far I have tried rubber with adhesive on both sides placed between the battery and the frame, but still it slides to the side. It would have oh so easy if ADO had drilled and tapped standard bottle mount holes on the frame to prevent the sliding. That in combination with the included straps would have been the perfect solution. Next I plan to purchase a bag with a bottle mount on its top that will mount on the included rear rack and mount the supplementary battery on the bag. I really like the carbon belt drive, it is quiet and come winter I will be able to ride confidently with long trousers without fear of getting grease on my trousers. I also purchased and installed better aluminum folding pedals, every new bike I have ever purchased ships with cheap plastic pedals. On level or downhill grades once up to speed I turn the power level to 0. The bike is light enough to pedal without power, and setting the power level to 0 conserves battery power. I don't particularly care for the tires that ship with the bike, the tread is narrow and deep enough to accumulate small stones over the course of a ride. I have ordered 20" x 2" Continental ebike tires with a slick tread. These will stop the accumulation of stones in the tread and the slick design will also help conserve battery power. It's a very well designed bike, but a bit of customization greatly improves it, I'm happy to have purchased it. 😉
Great review as always from Electroheads. Would be interested for sure in a review of the ADO Beast and also if possible a comparison of that bike with the Eskute Star which looks quite similar in specs and price.
Clean and low maintenance belt drive, quality battery, torque sensor, these are all good things. Shame about the lack of gears, but it is a reasonable price.
EBR got almost exactly the 60 km as she did on the highest level with a 90 km rider and got about 75 km at level one with a rider her size. That the numbers agree give me confidence about choosing this bike.
There is a reason Brompton choose steel for their frames. The hinge mechanism lasts for years. Aluminium frames will not last long if you are opening and shutting it on a regular basis.
3:22 your name (nearly) on that van 😍. Been contemplating between fold up / normal size, this bike sounds the biz! Thanks for your superb advice Ellis.
For anyone interested in the suspension model, think really hard about that. Some people have reported that the suspension is pretty bad and not worth the extra money
Eilis, fabulous review of this e-bike (too bad I couldn't get it in America). You and Tish are my two favorite reviewers from across the pond, as both of you give thoughtful, thorough reviews (and are both gorgeous imho!) of different types of electric powered transportation (I'd love to see you two do another collaboration!). Also, I loved your mention of the Hindsight sunglasses, as I believe this is a game changer for cyclists of all ages in helping to keep them safe while they're riding. Thank you! By the way, you look incredibly beautiful (love the leggings, too!). (cranes up to hug the towering reviewer) :)
Thanks Ed! Yes you can get this ebike in America but unfortunately, at the moment, not through us. We're working really hard to get set up across the pond as your support would be hugely appreciated! Big things to come so watch this space
Nice to see Electroheads HQ are supplying your very own support vehicle Eilis (3:22), but have a word with Rich about the spelling 😁. Looks like he's done you over 😂. 😎
I am mesmerized with ADO products and the value they bring to the market. Unfortunately, I just bought an analogue bike last year and don't want it to go to waste/sell at a great loss. It would be great, though, to have a test ride on this bike. And yes, review the Beast please!
Are you in London? Email James on hello@electroheads.com for a test ride. It doesn't matter if you don't want to buy it yet, we're happy for you to ride it 👊
Can you pedal past 15mph on this? Maybe do 20mph even though the pedal assist should cut out. Heard you couldn't peddle past the limit on an older version.
Another great video as ever, But could you please dedicate a video to E bike FIRES as there’s been a lot of interest in the media and on the BBC today regarding the safety of E Bikes and lithium, iron batteries. and what a huge fire risk they are, but I really feel this is a story of 2 sides and that the fires are mainly if not all Due to DIY conversions built with cheap Chinese parts and batteries, and Not well known main stream brands that follow UK British standards. I’d love to hear and see your views put into a video to help reassure people that their bike isn’t going to instantaneously combust. As you’re such a large advocates of E bikes, your knowledge would be invaluable. Keep up the great work.
Yes absolutely, we are working on this! We've been keeping dozens of e-bikes and e-scooters in our storage facility for 4 years and we've never had an issue.
Thats fantastic, yesterday my work announced they are considering the fire safety considerations of E-bikes in the underground carpark and may have to ask owners to lock them outside the building, but will keep us informed of any decisions made, not great and i know there decision comes from the press highlighting it and branding ALL E-bikes a fire risk (not there fault) with no distinction on exactly which type or brand on bikes our catching fire! or the fact people are building there own from parts bought from ebay and the like and pairing huge motors and batterys and miss matching them with incorrect chargers, with horrific consequences. Thanks again for your interest and your great channel.
Paciently waiting for mine. Just got the tracking number today. I will use this for commute to work. I am not sure how it handles on extreme cold rainy weather like here in Sweden, but at least bike paths are really good(one of the best i have seen along with Denmark). We will see this year how it behaves 🥶
I've had my first ride on my daughters about 30 minutes ago It's absolutely rubbish on hills feels worse than riding a bike that isn't electric😂 Very stable though with excellent brakes soft on bumps, it's a real shame it's got no hill power at all 😱 Nowhere near as good on hills as my Fiido L3
When folded the bike does not have good stable standing support. It’s strange why they didn’t extend the tube that holds battery to be longer so it can provide more stability when folded. If you make a mistake and the bikes drops down on the chain ring it can bend and it will be expensive to repair.
I also found this annoying. Once folded and upright, it doesnt sit by itself and falls on its side. Also carrying it in its folded state there isnt any fastenings so the bike flaps around. Design flaw sadly
Really interesting and entertaining review as ever, well done guys, although I can't see a mention in your website spec tab about whether the brakes are hydraulic or not. As I use my bike for shopping and some load carrying, it would be interesting to know the max rider+load weight you can put on the bike too, and maybe what weight the rear rack will carry. On a personal note, for me the Forme Buxton Pro is a better overall compromise for my own situation and needs, but the Air 20 does make a strong case. I guess I'm just not psychologically ready to give up my gears- and I'll take the extra 1 or 2kg weight hit. But I really love the idea of front suspension on the routes I ride, and the Buxton doesnt have that. I also like the removable seatpost battery. Locking the bike and taking that seatpost inside a shop with you would act as a pretty good overall theft deterrent for 20 mins or so (although it does depend a lot on where you are). The bike ticks a lot of important boxes and it will suit a lot people's needs really well. As ever, my one gripe is that the buying public still don't have any info about longer-term reliability for these bikes or the manufacturers.
Hey! Max load is 125kg, so that is the highest total weight we recommend putting onto the bike (including rider). On your note about the Forme Buxton Pro E, have you bought one yet? We have an ex-display model that has barely been ridden and that I'm sure we could sell to you for a reasonable price. Just email James on hello@electroheads.com if you're interested! By the way - the brakes on the ADO Air 20 are hydraulic, we'll get that updated straight away!
@@Electroheads , hey I'm really sorry guys, I did email you to ask about how you would deal with any warranty issues with the Buxton. But I didnt get a reply on that, so after waiting a few days I went with another supplier who seemed to have a half decent system for dealing with warranty problems (basically they let you use local bike shops where feasible). I knew stock was very low and people were running out, so I had to rush the purchase. No criticism implied of you guys whatsoever, you stock fantastic bikes, and you do seem a very ethical bunch, but I got burned with terminal faults on three previous ebikes, and this time I just had to make sure what the warranty set up was before I pulled the trigger. But it was your video that put me onto the Buxton, and I'm really grateful for that.
@@Electroheads It was a much smoother ride. A small foldable bike really does not require suspension. The suspension bounced when accelerating, where as no suspension cruised up to speed a more smoothly. No suspension certainly was the better choice for me and the wife who use all the time and love the bike! 👍
If I recall correctly indiegogo early bird price was 999EUR, hopefully they will someday drop the prices more... maybe in the paired variant, but still they might get them slightly cheaper...
You can't ride up a hill you can't ride at any speed Get Fiido X2 Ado is junk This is a paid promotion You can't believe anything they say Can't even pronounce the make right😂
I got it via Klana. Paying it in 3 installments - If you can earn around £400 - £500 after expenses per month, you might be able to get this. It is also interest free
Keep in mind that she weighs not that much and 60 vs 100km is a huge difference! I know that every company lies about their ranges, but that's just false advertising!
Please disclose if you have been paid by Ado or been provided this bike by Ado for free for the purpose of the review. Would appreciate a disclaimer (I personally do not trust this brand to be honest with their marketing). thanks.
Are you going to review the air 20s as I’m undecided on which to purchase. I like the idea of the suspension and integrated brake light with the newer version. Looking to purchase a pair for myself and my wife to start getting out more, we’re both in our mid 50’s.
I treat my air 20 as if I don't own a lock. There is only one thing I would change on the air 20 and that is the length of the frame. It feels a bit longer than the old A20 and a non folding version would be nice as well. like the Himo C20 but only air 20 :)
Thanks for this super helpful! I'm worried with the single speed I'll be in a pedalling frenzy at the top speed.. so that it's not comfortable (why usually I'd shift up a up a gear so the cadence is comfortable). Has that been your experience or is it comfortable for decent durations at ~25kph? Thanks in advance!
Considering the weight, ADO did specify 16 kilos for CE variant without any bolt-on extras... The international version may have heavier weight, the suspension plus kickstand, plus mudguards, plus magnetic clip, etc. get the bike to 20 kilos... Still a fair bit lower than what many others now are going with, some 23 kilos, others easily reaching 30 kilos, some going north of 40 kilos on the foldable fat tire variants... Considering those plastic mudguards, they're crap. ADO knows it, that's why they released metal proper ones for extra cost... ADO Air 20 apparently defaults to 3 active power assistance modes in CE releases, but it should also be reconfigurable to 5 levels available in INT variants...
As you say all the add ons can bump up that total weight. ADO should be more clear with this. I'm not particularly strong but the total weight for me hasn't been an issue for my day to day commuting!
As far as I can tell the CE and int versions are same weight on their website. You get the 350w one either way, but the EU ones are locked to 25kmh and 250w output (which can be unlocked to become the int version of 32kmh and 350w) so essentially the only difference is you don't get the throttle with the EU one
I liked your video...Thanks. You did not mentioned about the throttle feature of the A20 Air. I recently bought a A20 Air that come with throttle. I need to use the throttle when I cycled up steeper slope of 5-10 %. Any comment ?
Thank you for the insightful video! Based on your review, I purchased the ebike and I'm enjoying it. However, I've noticed some fluctuations in the battery level indicator-sudden drops followed by significant charge recovery. I'm uncertain if this is typical behavior or if there might be an issue. I'd be grateful if you could share your experience regarding this matter. Greetings from Denmark!
I have ordered the lite version, which is the save bike minus hydraulic brakes and torque sensor. I'm in Canada. Mine is the international version with throttle and 350 watt motor.
On level 3 you're pedalling with less force than you would with lower levels, so it's easier to stay at the top speed. Average speed is easily 15.5mph. This bike is dreamy for keeping you at the max speed!
@Electroheads not a bad little city hopper with such a tiny footprint. Back in the day in Holland those were the only bikes allowed on the train, you had to peddle like mad like a little kid on a tricycle :) this is much more of a pleasant ride. A nice comfy seat too, that is important. I did 44 miles the other day and have no idea who tested my saddle but its more of a.torturing device. Upgrade needed fast. Thanks for your comment 👍
Ok it's only 24 volt but how about for £700 the folding 20'' Argos E + plus. Slow, struggles a tad up steep inclines, but on a positive note built like a tank I got one passers by stop me all the time riding! It comes fully equipped with rear rack, side stand, full length metal mudguards, and lovely bright blue paint
I've been riding this bike for about a month th-cam.com/users/postUgkxwC0IIeIomGQVeBWg-kKJaToZkLEFIA2W and a half now and I think it's fantastic. It helps me get to work on time every day since I'm able to fit it inside of public transportation rush hour. The price is great too, people are always shocked when they ask me how much I paid for the fold up and I tell them "200". It's easy to fold and installation when it ships is insanely easy. All you have to install when the bike arrives is one foot pedal, everything else is done for you. I do recommend you carry some sort of wrench to tighten any loose screws on the handle bar and seat whenever they get a little bit loose. Other than that I think it's a fantastic bike. Easily fits in the home, can fit inside a car trunk and can even fit in subway rush hour.
I bought a bike that was very similar to this, especially the battery in the seat post. I really liked it except for the fold axel to axel making it unwieldy. But the main issue I had was the range which was terrible. Even on the lowest setting I wouldn’t get the range of the quoted highest setting. It wouldn’t even last one commute. I think I was getting about 10 miles. Absolutely terrible. To be clear that is not this bike but still I doubt it would get anywhere close to that quoted range. Perhaps the cells used are better and/or the capacity is larger in this one. A few things to note about the battery post: normal bike light fittings won’t work with it, dirt and grime gets onto the battery connector and onto the seat post which can scratch it if you’re taking it out to charge, you will need a cable to lock the saddle to the bike but that could easily be cut so it’s not great for locking up anywhere. The bike was an Emu Mini. Edit, it looks like the battery connector on this is just below the saddle and not at the bottom of the post so that’s better.
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Lovely bike and great review. My only concern design wise is the seat post containing the battery. Did you find that saddle stem flex at all being that it is unsupported. Wondered if this could affect the batteries and possible fire hazard.
An interesting thought. This style of battery integrated seat post is pretty common, so although I haven't noticed any flexing, I can imagine this will have been considered in the manufacturing process
How do you lock the battery? If it's in the saddle tube can't it easily be stolen? Do you have to carry the battery and saddle around with you all the time?
Just looking at the spec, if you want something for whizzing around the city that might last you a couple of years then it seems like a reasonable purchase. Not sure it would handle trails or rough terrain though.
@Electroheads that's awesome. I'm in the whipping around the city camp. Maybe the occasional off road trip around richmond/bushy Park. But not often. So hopefully this will last a good few years. Thanks Eilis 👍
I haven't tried the Carbo X so it's hard to say but looking at price alone the Air 20 is much more affordable. Lots of subs comment on the price factor so I know that's a big one for people and the Air 20 offers a great package for its price
Main difference is one is carbon fibre the other is aluminium. Other than that pretty much the same I think. I have seen another reviewer state the belt isn't from a known brand on the ado, it's a lower quality one. Obviously there is cut backs for a lower price point but that's ok as long as they don't skimp too much
I'm very interested in buying this bike but I'm worried it is too small for me. I am 190cm, website says suitable for people 150-200cm but I've never ridden a folding bike before, not sure how accurate their height range is and obviously there's only one frame size. Anybody on the taller side have experience of using this bike?
Something worth mentioning is does your local bike shop support this make of bike ie can it service and repair the bike and get spare parts ok. It might be advisable to check on that before purchase.
Lbs suck, they hate supporting anything they don't stock, and all they stock is pricey Bosch motors. I found a guy on FB who does bike repairs from his garage, very good setup better than pros, as for parts we can order online. Anyway you got to either learn it yourself or find a cool dude locally
I am interested in getting one of these and next time I am in London I will come for a test ride. One concern I have is the fact it only has one gear and one limitation of your reviews is that you do very little riding on (significant) hills. Does anyone have any experience of what this bike is like to ride on more hilly terrain? Does it suffer from the lack of gears?
Can you answer this question for me as I’m confused when I see you taking electric bikes on tubs and buses when I no there not allowed on tubes and not allowed on London buses. As I have a Gocycle and I’ve had it for 2yrs and I found 18months ago you was fine but sometime after that they stopped it. When I get on the tube at Shepherds Bush it say loudly no electrics bikes or escooters allowed on the London Underground and I get the same thing getting off at Oxford st station. So why do you keep showing you taking them on the underground and the tube making people think you can when legally you can’t
5:30 I'm going to go all tyre nerd on you, but tread pattern influencing grip in wet weather (bikes don't aquaplane like cars do, due to the concentrated force on a small contact patch per tyre) is nowhere near the most important factor in keeping the tyres gripping through the water on the road surface. Quality casing construction (conformability) and a tyre tread rubber compound designed for adhesion in wet weather are much more important. Cheap tyres won't grip, IOW.
This looks very very similar (and in weight to) to the EoVolt Confort 20". They all seem to be clones of Chinese bikes. They are all so similar in their folding hinge placement, battery tech, handlebar displays etc. No harm in any of that but just saying.
@@loushared6602 I have had zero problems with the law. My bike looks like a normal bike and i don't ride fast. I understand that it's still against the law though.
Yeah the motor size should be irrelevant, if they're going to force a 25kmh speed limiter then it doesn't matter if you have 1000w or whatever, just makes hill climbs easier. Think of various engine sizes in cars but all must adhere to the speed limit of the road
Jep, only about 1 out of 5 reviewers talk about this! I heard rumors (?) about a more secure clamp they're bringing to the market, but I have to get more information on this one.
Reminds me of a Fiido 4ds foldable I owned. Same lines. White. Cracking bike, did 4,500 kms before selling it. That too could have done with front suspension, but never let me down back and forward to work (in all conditions) other than punctures. Paid a lot less than this ADO and with a better battery. Good review. Is there an ADO similar to Fiido, I can only see Engwe bikes near to the Fiido and same price range. 👍 Keep up the the good work.
I have donor over 20,000 mi on my Fiido L3 Ado is junk We have just returned a new one Because it was crap didn't work right and the brakes didn't work right The one she is reviewing is too low geared and you can't ride up a hill It's a paid review They will say it's good lol
Where does it leave you when the battery dies altogether with a belt drive? Can it still be pedalled without power? This is my concern with a belt drive, sooner or later the battery will die and no longer be manufactured, so wouldn't it be better to get a bike with gears so it can still be used when the battery can't?
Just to add to this, we have been reviewing and riding e-bikes for 4 years and none of our bikes’ batteries have ever died. Generally 5 years is the minimum you should get from an e-bike battery. We do a lot of consultation with companies before listing them on our marketplace and that we think ADO are a reputable company who are here to stay. But if you want an ebike with gears then the Estarli e20 is exactly what you're after! electroheads.com/products/estarli-e20-e-bike-1
What’s the cost of changing the battery = average cost ? Would a seat suspension gadget fit on the seat post ? Or maybe the Brooks seat with springs might do the trick? Surprised no manufacturer hasn’t come up with a mini wind turbine attached to the bike that would charge the bike as one rides , like the fact it’s got a belt drive ,
The cost REALLY isn't something you have to consider! In the back of my head I have something like 4€ for 1500km. It could be wrong, it was just the title of a video I saw a few days ago. The suspension on the seat post is an interesting topic! If you find something online, let me know! I'll do the same! First my Air 20 has to be delivered but if I can think of a solution, maybe I'll remember that someone had the same idea. :) I'd doubt, that a wind turbine would be effective enough. I've seen a video of a guy that put a wind turbine on his pick-up truck and the amount of energy he got from it was surprising, but not that high either.
@@MaeckesPlanB thinking really of a mini turbine, seems the amount of wind generated while cycling that someone hasn’t come up with something to capture that element it’s there winter ,summer, the amount of wind force as cycling anywhere wasn’t used , seems daft not too use something that’s free , may the wind on your back always be your own.
@@KavanOBrien It seems that we both don't have the knowledge in physics to determine wether that would be feasible. It's a great idea, don't get me wrong, just the efficiency is debatable. I don't think that riding 1 hour at 25 km/h could even charge a mobile phone. Who knows, maybe you're right, but I don't think it would be effective enough. Consider this: It takes multiple hours to charge an ebike battery at home.
@@MaeckesPlanB Of course it is feasible, a dynamo can charge lights as you pedal as well as your mobile, putting mini turbines in drain pipes can generate electricity to charge batteries , so when you think about all bikes are hollow tubes , can you imagine the force generated with the wind going through the main frame, even with a gentle ride around town , imagine a hose pipe with the same water pressure put a certain end attachment on the pipe you’ve got a pressure washer, so basically what I’m trying to say very badly with my terrible explanation is , sounds that you are also a person that cycles, when you are out next on a gentle ride just take notice even on a calm and sunny day how much wind you are facing be it from the front or from the rear , A little experiment you could do, are you up to the challenge ? Try and get one of the small windmills the kids have when they go to the beach, or better get an old laptop fan out of the unit, purpose is to see the actual force and how much energy is be generated, am I a mad scientist or just mad , I bet the person who developed the Brompton was laughed at when he said I’m going to make a folding bike , so if people laugh at my ideas at least I’ve put a smile on their faces.
The saddle of my ADO air 20 broke and came off while I was riding on it in the middle of the road. I fell off the bike onto the road and got injuries. If there were a car, the bike would have killed me. It turned out the bolt of saddle had failed and could not hold the saddle. I'm 63kg so not above weight limits. There are few ADO owners had the same problem. If are one of them, would you please let me know?
Thanks for watching my video! For more info on the ADO Air 20, check out ADO's website right here 👉 shrsl.com/4kuoj
I got this bike about a month ago from Electroheads, and can say i love it. I have also found the range to be around 45-55kms for me but i weight around 85kg + carry a heavy bag. I would say its on par with the estarli e-20.
Im ok with the saddle personally, but would change it if i was usuing the bike on 1+ hour rides.
Rides fine on the gravel paths, and as its a carbon belt i found cleaning the bike really easy! I will get the mud guards for the winter.
I do recommend the bike overall - good luck all!
Thanks Electroheads
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just bought this bike and I love it so far I plan on using it even for deliveries part time (uber eats) I will say if you buy it remember to buy the battery lock accessory since if the thief is knowledgable they'll try to steal your battery
Wow, I just came across a new project called freebeat's Morph 2-in-1 e-Bike. As an ebike user, this caught my attention. The video showcasing the outstanding features of freebeat Morph e-bike had me impressed. The ability to charge the bike in indoor mode is a game-changer! The powerful 750W motor, 80Nm torque, and top speed of 20mph are remarkable. The 80mm front suspension and puncture-resistant fat tires ensure a smooth ride on any terrain. The Smart Saddle Detection+ feature and the ability to generate CO2-free miles from indoor rides are truly innovative. I am excited to support this groundbreaking project!
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Eilis, another truly cracking review, you have made this bike a must-get. It is one of the most balanced, informative and helpful reviews and covers all of the key points. Love the outfits, it really adds to the review when you are popping up in a whole variety of different kit.
Thank you!! 🥰
It's a paid review😂
Reality of things is that you can't ride up a steep hill and the gearing is too low
They have endless problems with their bikes
I'm talking from a previous customer point of view😢
@@winniepeg2020 that could be interesting info if it were more detailed: who is "they", the manufacturer or the retailer? And what does "their bikes" refer to? Would you care to list the "endless" problems you have encountered?
There is no such thing as a "free" review, all reviews are somehow paid for. And obviously, no bike drivetrain will be able to beat the laws of physics -- @Electroheads make it clear in other reviews, if you have certain types of terrain in your use case, certain bikes will not be for you.
Man I love this channel so much useful info. Immediately went looking for hindsight sunglasses!
That's the worst part of cycling is looking over your shoulder without crashing! Amazing
Glad to help! If you end up purchasing we'd really appreciate if you can buy through our store as every little helps ❤ electroheads.com/products/hindsight-artemis
While watching your excellent deep dive on the ADO 20 I was reminded of the many different joys of riding. It is a real blast to go explore all the parks of a city by bike, something I have done here in San Jose and south SF Bay. One of the other fun things is to go riding and stop for a nice bite to eat, I have found a real wealth of Indian, Asian, Mexican, Vietnamese foodie places by doing this, lots of great treats while exploring and exercising. You see a completely different side of a city/place by biking. Anyway, right after I watched this video a BeardMeetsFood video showed up on the play list and torqued my brain into a weird thought. Why not do a BearMeetsFood challenge as an episode, something like ride around as many bike friendly cool eatery places in London(or other city) and at the same time get Beards take on eBike's. Maybe even kit him out with the right bike for "Foodie eBiking" for the effort... Tips on bike friendly hotels/hostels in London might also be cool to drop in your videos from time to time, London looks like a really fun place to bike tour in...
Found this bike on in some of your earlier vids, immediately knew it was the bike I wanted, but first watched some other videos just to make sure, and I still ended up wanting it, so I place my order last Saturday from your store, looking forward to receiving (estimated between Thursday and Monday)and using it for my commute to save money on fuel. Watching this video has gotten me excited and impatient, keep hoping when I check my phone that I have received an email with the tracking number.
Hello! Congrats on the purchase. I don't want to risk getting on the wrong side of GDPR rules, but if you are who I think you are, then we definitely have your order. I'll check in with the team today and ask them to hurry, hurry, hurry!
@@Electroheadsgreatly appreciated 😀
@@hsrunknowniumDo you have your bike yet? What are your thoughts?
@@loushared6602 my bike arrived on Wednesday, used it to commute to work on Thursday and Friday and it was great, I haven't ridden a bike in probably 10 years but it was super easy to get back in to it, even handles hills quite well, definitely feel hills but didn't struggle, it is great. If you are considering it, would recommend getting it. Would also recommend the electroheads store to buy it from, they took care of me very well and even replying to emails within minutes of sending them even after customer support closing time.
@@hsrunknownium I ordered mine last week too, so receive it hopefully tomorrow or Wednesday. I’m glad you like yours, I can’t wait, to be honest!
I also bought the Air 20 bike from Ado. I agree with Eili's feelings about the bike. The saddle is uncomfortable and should be replaced, but it's a common problem with bikes and you can't fault the manufacturer. Don't get me wrong, riding the bike is a lot of fun. Also like Eilis, I have to say that on inclines and here you also have the feeling of being physically active, i.e. having done something and not driving from a to b on a battery like with a scooter.
But what disappoints me is that the manufacturer offers a range of 100KM but in reality I only get 42 kilometers. The support from them told me that they reached 100 kilometers in an in-house environment (i.e. not outside in the wind) and at 15 km/h an hour. In my opinion, this is not a realistic test and should be reconsidered. I'm about 1.68 cm tall and weigh 64 kg. Also, my battery doesn't fully charge, 92-94%. The navigation has also been activated in the meantime, but if you deviate from the recommended route, it is not recalculated, so it is currently unusable again. As one of the first customers, I also find it a pity that the Ado Air was gradually expanded in the shop (dampers, magnets, transport bag, etc.). The charging speed of the battery is also not up to date at 4-6 hours. I also find some spare parts on the shop page just too expensive if you google, aliexpress or otherwise look at the same time. I would give the bike 70/100 points. If all the shortcomings are gradually addressed by the company then 85 / 100 points. But if you initially state that your bike is lighter than it is, if you state ranges that do not correspond to reality, then you have already fallen for their trick. Ado would do well to be more honest from the start. Once again a damn good and above all honest review from Electrobikes and Eilis in particular ;)
Completely hear you! The range claim in this industry is one that has left us scratching our heads here in the studio. It's the same for electric cars - there's one range claim and then the 'real world' number. We've been talking about covering this in a video as it's not a good look for all these companies. Add ons should also be offered at a lower price point for early customers as you helped them get to where they are. But as you say - all that aside it's a fab contender in the folding e-bike sector.
Try checking in the app at what voltage the battery is set. If it's anything other than 36V, then it would explain your battery and range issues a bit. Also if you have set it up to have 5 riding modes, change it back to 3 - the extra 2 don't really do anything and drain the battery more
@@temorinkaari Thank you for the tip with the 36v setting, i will check that later. yeah that 5 riding modes i have tested too, its useless but had similiar range like 3 ride modes, but no effect at all. maybe it makes sense on the 350w motor, i dont know. yesterday i have orderd the magnets on ali for 4 euros, on ados website 20 euros, make your own thoughts on this... right now i have mixed feelings about the quality of the battery since its not chargable up to 100%, can you charge your battery till 100% and it is show on display and app ? also i miss direct assist like on escooters where the motor prompts directly on your first push to pedal. this is only possible with the throttle on the international 350w version..
Thank you
@@sarbaso i don't own the bike yet, but i've seen a lot of reviews and discussions about it. If your battery doesn't charge fully that's usually an indication of wrong voltage setting - if it's set higher, the controller will see the battery at 36V and think it's discharged, and when it gets much lower, it will think that the battery is depleted, even if it still has charge. As for the magnets, i saw someone saying they also ordered from aliexpress and they were very weak and didn't hold the bike together, but i'm also interested to see what you will think. Ado magnets should be better, but who knows 🤷
@@temorinkaari Hi, here is my feedback, i did a firmware for the display and after that i was not able to choose the voltage. Ado sends me a replacement battery and a display. at the end it was the fault of the display showing that the battery is not fully charged. I thought it was the battery and the bms. THE BN02-US Display fix my problems. The magentes from ali also has arrived and i attached them to the bike. The magnet is very very strong so you can easy spend 4 Euros without worries.
I ordered the Ado 20a lite international version. Same bike with a speed sensor and without hydraulic brakes.
I purchased an ADO Air 20 Pro about 3 weeks ago and have about 350 miles on it. I replaced the saddle with a Brooks B17, I have the same saddle on my 26" bike and a saddle bag with tools to repair and inflate a punctured tire. I am quite used to the feel of the saddle and I wanted to be able to use the bag on both bikes.
I got rid of the headlight that ships with the bike, it was mounted too low, it illuminated the front tire and fender and cast a shadow on the road, I tried elevating the angle of the beam higher and found that in order to not cast the beam on the tire and fender I would aiming the beam toward oncoming traffic. Also it was not bright enough to suit me. I mounted a headlight on the handlebar (where it belongs) that is very bright and has it's own power source, conserving some energy can be applied to the power train.
I also purchase a bottle sized supplementary battery that ADO instructs to mount on the frame. That was very poorly conceived, the frame has a curved surface with a smooth finish, and the battery will slide to one side of the bike rolling over just a few bumps on the road. So far I have tried rubber with adhesive on both sides placed between the battery and the frame, but still it slides to the side. It would have oh so easy if ADO had drilled and tapped standard bottle mount holes on the frame to prevent the sliding. That in combination with the included straps would have been the perfect solution. Next I plan to purchase a bag with a bottle mount on its top that will mount on the included rear rack and mount the supplementary battery on the bag.
I really like the carbon belt drive, it is quiet and come winter I will be able to ride confidently with long trousers without fear of getting grease on my trousers.
I also purchased and installed better aluminum folding pedals, every new bike I have ever purchased ships with cheap plastic pedals.
On level or downhill grades once up to speed I turn the power level to 0. The bike is light enough to pedal without power, and setting the power level to 0 conserves battery power.
I don't particularly care for the tires that ship with the bike, the tread is narrow and deep enough to accumulate small stones over the course of a ride. I have ordered 20" x 2" Continental ebike tires with a slick tread. These will stop the accumulation of stones in the tread and the slick design will also help conserve battery power.
It's a very well designed bike, but a bit of customization greatly improves it, I'm happy to have purchased it. 😉
Great review as always from Electroheads. Would be interested for sure in a review of the ADO Beast and also if possible a comparison of that bike with the Eskute Star which looks quite similar in specs and price.
Thank you! Will keep this in mind ☺
Clean and low maintenance belt drive, quality battery, torque sensor, these are all good things.
Shame about the lack of gears, but it is a reasonable price.
EBR got almost exactly the 60 km as she did on the highest level with a 90 km rider and got about 75 km at level one with a rider her size. That the numbers agree give me confidence about choosing this bike.
There is a reason Brompton choose steel for their frames. The hinge mechanism lasts for years. Aluminium frames will not last long if you are opening and shutting it on a regular basis.
How long do you think it would last?
3:22 your name (nearly) on that van 😍. Been contemplating between fold up / normal size, this bike sounds the biz! Thanks for your superb advice Ellis.
If you're in London then feel free to book a test ride (via our website - electroheads.com )
For anyone interested in the suspension model, think really hard about that. Some people have reported that the suspension is pretty bad and not worth the extra money
I agree
@@MagicPed698 did you have bad experience with suspension?
Eilis, fabulous review of this e-bike (too bad I couldn't get it in America). You and Tish are my two favorite reviewers from across the pond, as both of you give thoughtful, thorough reviews (and are both gorgeous imho!) of different types of electric powered transportation (I'd love to see you two do another collaboration!).
Also, I loved your mention of the Hindsight sunglasses, as I believe this is a game changer for cyclists of all ages in helping to keep them safe while they're riding. Thank you! By the way, you look incredibly beautiful (love the leggings, too!). (cranes up to hug the towering reviewer) :)
Of course you can get it in America. I'm getting the international version with 350 Watt Motor and a throttle. I'm Canadian.
Thanks Ed! Yes you can get this ebike in America but unfortunately, at the moment, not through us. We're working really hard to get set up across the pond as your support would be hugely appreciated! Big things to come so watch this space
@Electroheads One problem you will encounter,is that many ebike manufacturers have set up in Canada and the US.
Nice to see Electroheads HQ are supplying your very own support vehicle Eilis (3:22), but have a word with Rich about the spelling 😁. Looks like he's done you over 😂. 😎
Haha how did we not spot that, that's amazing
⚡🤙🏼 *Light, and belt drive* 👌🏼🤩
Who remembers the Harry Enfield jockey sketch?
That Richmond park test...
"Oooo! Hello!"
Oh a review of the Beast would be great - although as I've just ordered one (from yourselves) I suppose I'll be riding it before that one drops...
thanks for the best review 🥰 can you please tell me what kind of camera it is 6:28 ?
Nice one great review 👍
I am mesmerized with ADO products and the value they bring to the market. Unfortunately, I just bought an analogue bike last year and don't want it to go to waste/sell at a great loss. It would be great, though, to have a test ride on this bike. And yes, review the Beast please!
They should definitely get the beast
Are you in London? Email James on hello@electroheads.com for a test ride. It doesn't matter if you don't want to buy it yet, we're happy for you to ride it 👊
oh, we are!
Can you pedal past 15mph on this? Maybe do 20mph even though the pedal assist should cut out. Heard you couldn't peddle past the limit on an older version.
Another great video as ever,
But could you please dedicate a video to E bike FIRES as there’s been a lot of interest in the media and on the BBC today regarding the safety of E Bikes and lithium, iron batteries. and what a huge fire risk they are, but I really feel this is a story of 2 sides and that the fires are mainly if not all Due to DIY conversions built with cheap Chinese parts and batteries, and Not well known main stream brands that follow UK British standards. I’d love to hear and see your views put into a video to help reassure people that their bike isn’t going to instantaneously combust. As you’re such a large advocates of E bikes, your knowledge would be invaluable. Keep up the great work.
The ADO Air 20 comes with a Samsung battery certified to European safety standards 👍
Yes absolutely, we are working on this! We've been keeping dozens of e-bikes and e-scooters in our storage facility for 4 years and we've never had an issue.
Thats fantastic, yesterday my work announced they are considering the fire safety considerations of E-bikes in the underground carpark and may have to ask owners to lock them outside the building, but will keep us informed of any decisions made, not great and i know there decision comes from the press highlighting it and branding ALL E-bikes a fire risk (not there fault) with no distinction on exactly which type or brand on bikes our catching fire! or the fact people are building there own from parts bought from ebay and the like and pairing huge motors and batterys and miss matching them with incorrect chargers, with horrific consequences.
Thanks again for your interest and your great channel.
Paciently waiting for mine. Just got the tracking number today. I will use this for commute to work. I am not sure how it handles on extreme cold rainy weather like here in Sweden, but at least bike paths are really good(one of the best i have seen along with Denmark). We will see this year how it behaves 🥶
Ooooh let us know how you find it!! I'm excited for you ☺
I've had my first ride on my daughters about 30 minutes ago
It's absolutely rubbish on hills feels worse than riding a bike that isn't electric😂
Very stable though with excellent brakes soft on bumps, it's a real shame it's got no hill power at all 😱
Nowhere near as good on hills as my Fiido L3
Great review, cool ebike
When folded the bike does not have good stable standing support. It’s strange why they didn’t extend the tube that holds battery to be longer so it can provide more stability when folded. If you make a mistake and the bikes drops down on the chain ring it can bend and it will be expensive to repair.
I also found this annoying. Once folded and upright, it doesnt sit by itself and falls on its side. Also carrying it in its folded state there isnt any fastenings so the bike flaps around. Design flaw sadly
Really interesting and entertaining review as ever, well done guys, although I can't see a mention in your website spec tab about whether the brakes are hydraulic or not.
As I use my bike for shopping and some load carrying, it would be interesting to know the max rider+load weight you can put on the bike too, and maybe what weight the rear rack will carry.
On a personal note, for me the Forme Buxton Pro is a better overall compromise for my own situation and needs, but the Air 20 does make a strong case.
I guess I'm just not psychologically ready to give up my gears- and I'll take the extra 1 or 2kg weight hit.
But I really love the idea of front suspension on the routes I ride, and the Buxton doesnt have that.
I also like the removable seatpost battery. Locking the bike and taking that seatpost inside a shop with you would act as a pretty good overall theft deterrent for 20 mins or so (although it does depend a lot on where you are).
The bike ticks a lot of important boxes and it will suit a lot people's needs really well.
As ever, my one gripe is that the buying public still don't have any info about longer-term reliability for these bikes or the manufacturers.
Hey! Max load is 125kg, so that is the highest total weight we recommend putting onto the bike (including rider).
On your note about the Forme Buxton Pro E, have you bought one yet? We have an ex-display model that has barely been ridden and that I'm sure we could sell to you for a reasonable price. Just email James on hello@electroheads.com if you're interested!
By the way - the brakes on the ADO Air 20 are hydraulic, we'll get that updated straight away!
@@Electroheads , hey I'm really sorry guys, I did email you to ask about how you would deal with any warranty issues with the Buxton. But I didnt get a reply on that, so after waiting a few days I went with another supplier who seemed to have a half decent system for dealing with warranty problems (basically they let you use local bike shops where feasible). I knew stock was very low and people were running out, so I had to rush the purchase.
No criticism implied of you guys whatsoever, you stock fantastic bikes, and you do seem a very ethical bunch, but I got burned with terminal faults on three previous ebikes, and this time I just had to make sure what the warranty set up was before I pulled the trigger. But it was your video that put me onto the Buxton, and I'm really grateful for that.
my Ado Air 20 EU has Hydraulic Brakes.
I've tried both with and with out suspension and I must say I preferred with out suspension.
That’s really interesting to hear! Would love to know why? I’m sure others will find your thoughts to be helpful
@@Electroheads It was a much smoother ride.
A small foldable bike really does not require suspension.
The suspension bounced when accelerating, where as no suspension cruised up to speed a more smoothly.
No suspension certainly was the better choice for me and the wife who use all the time and love the bike! 👍
I’m interested but I will afford one in my dreams. God this electric revolution is depressing.
I paid more for a non-electric bike, but I feel you. Nonetheless: The ADO Air 20 is fairly prized, I think.
If I recall correctly indiegogo early bird price was 999EUR, hopefully they will someday drop the prices more... maybe in the paired variant, but still they might get them slightly cheaper...
You can't ride up a hill you can't ride at any speed
Get Fiido X2
Ado is junk
This is a paid promotion You can't believe anything they say
Can't even pronounce the make right😂
I got it via Klana. Paying it in 3 installments - If you can earn around £400 - £500 after expenses per month, you might be able to get this. It is also interest free
60 km is good, I like that.
It's incredibly good for a folding bike!
Keep in mind that she weighs not that much and 60 vs 100km is a huge difference! I know that every company lies about their ranges, but that's just false advertising!
Especially in a city if you’re riding short distances.
I'd be interested in seeing how this compares with a homemade electric folding bike....
Greetings ,if you dont have battery ..this bike how is going without bicycle gears ?
How about a suspension saddle supertest?
Please disclose if you have been paid by Ado or been provided this bike by Ado for free for the purpose of the review. Would appreciate a disclaimer (I personally do not trust this brand to be honest with their marketing). thanks.
Good point and you can report companies and influencers for not disclosing ads and misleading consumers
The suspension model only comes in the CE version though, not the international version so no 350 watt motor or throttle.
Are you going to review the air 20s as I’m undecided on which to purchase. I like the idea of the suspension and integrated brake light with the newer version. Looking to purchase a pair for myself and my wife to start getting out more, we’re both in our mid 50’s.
I treat my air 20 as if I don't own a lock. There is only one thing I would change on the air 20 and that is the length of the frame. It feels a bit longer than the old A20 and a non folding version would be nice as well. like the Himo C20 but only air 20 :)
Yeah I personally don't feel comfortable locking it up in public. Best to keep it out of sight - out of mind!
Any good tips on comfortable replacement seats for the Ado?
Thanks for this super helpful! I'm worried with the single speed I'll be in a pedalling frenzy at the top speed.. so that it's not comfortable (why usually I'd shift up a up a gear so the cadence is comfortable). Has that been your experience or is it comfortable for decent durations at ~25kph? Thanks in advance!
Considering the weight, ADO did specify 16 kilos for CE variant without any bolt-on extras... The international version may have heavier weight, the suspension plus kickstand, plus mudguards, plus magnetic clip, etc. get the bike to 20 kilos... Still a fair bit lower than what many others now are going with, some 23 kilos, others easily reaching 30 kilos, some going north of 40 kilos on the foldable fat tire variants...
Considering those plastic mudguards, they're crap. ADO knows it, that's why they released metal proper ones for extra cost...
ADO Air 20 apparently defaults to 3 active power assistance modes in CE releases, but it should also be reconfigurable to 5 levels available in INT variants...
As you say all the add ons can bump up that total weight. ADO should be more clear with this. I'm not particularly strong but the total weight for me hasn't been an issue for my day to day commuting!
As far as I can tell the CE and int versions are same weight on their website. You get the 350w one either way, but the EU ones are locked to 25kmh and 250w output (which can be unlocked to become the int version of 32kmh and 350w) so essentially the only difference is you don't get the throttle with the EU one
I liked your video...Thanks. You did not mentioned about the throttle feature of the A20 Air. I recently bought a A20 Air that come with throttle. I need to use the throttle when I cycled up steeper slope of 5-10 %. Any comment ?
Which is better though? This bike OR the estarli 20.7 ??
Thank you for the insightful video! Based on your review, I purchased the ebike and I'm enjoying it. However, I've noticed some fluctuations in the battery level indicator-sudden drops followed by significant charge recovery. I'm uncertain if this is typical behavior or if there might be an issue. I'd be grateful if you could share your experience regarding this matter. Greetings from Denmark!
Hey! This sounds like an issue as I haven't experienced this. If you bought from us then make sure to hit up our customer service team so we can help
AdoAir 20 available in Canada?? Love 'folding bikes!! is there a back fender 'option'.accessory? Cheers!
I have ordered the lite version, which is the save bike minus hydraulic brakes and torque sensor.
I'm in Canada.
Mine is the international version with throttle and 350 watt motor.
there are so many Canadians on this thread! Should we come over an open a shop there?
@@Electroheads yes please!!😀
I am sold!
With level 3, did you have to pedal much? What was your average speed? Thanks for sharing
On level 3 you're pedalling with less force than you would with lower levels, so it's easier to stay at the top speed. Average speed is easily 15.5mph. This bike is dreamy for keeping you at the max speed!
@Electroheads not a bad little city hopper with such a tiny footprint. Back in the day in Holland those were the only bikes allowed on the train, you had to peddle like mad like a little kid on a tricycle :) this is much more of a pleasant ride. A nice comfy seat too, that is important. I did 44 miles the other day and have no idea who tested my saddle but its more of a.torturing device. Upgrade needed fast.
Thanks for your comment 👍
Ok it's only 24 volt but how about for £700 the folding 20'' Argos E + plus. Slow, struggles a tad up steep inclines, but on a positive note built like a tank I got one passers by stop me all the time riding! It comes fully equipped with rear rack, side stand, full length metal mudguards, and lovely bright blue paint
Too weak for most people
Slick review. I have a Mirider and the motor is a wee bit noisy. What's it like on this Ado please? ✌️
Genuinely quiet as a mouse!
I've been riding this bike for about a month th-cam.com/users/postUgkxwC0IIeIomGQVeBWg-kKJaToZkLEFIA2W and a half now and I think it's fantastic. It helps me get to work on time every day since I'm able to fit it inside of public transportation rush hour. The price is great too, people are always shocked when they ask me how much I paid for the fold up and I tell them "200". It's easy to fold and installation when it ships is insanely easy. All you have to install when the bike arrives is one foot pedal, everything else is done for you. I do recommend you carry some sort of wrench to tighten any loose screws on the handle bar and seat whenever they get a little bit loose. Other than that I think it's a fantastic bike. Easily fits in the home, can fit inside a car trunk and can even fit in subway rush hour.
Thanks for this @Edgar.. with the single speed are you having to pedal at an uncomfortably fast cadence at the higher speeds?
I bought a bike that was very similar to this, especially the battery in the seat post. I really liked it except for the fold axel to axel making it unwieldy. But the main issue I had was the range which was terrible. Even on the lowest setting I wouldn’t get the range of the quoted highest setting. It wouldn’t even last one commute. I think I was getting about 10 miles. Absolutely terrible. To be clear that is not this bike but still I doubt it would get anywhere close to that quoted range. Perhaps the cells used are better and/or the capacity is larger in this one.
A few things to note about the battery post: normal bike light fittings won’t work with it, dirt and grime gets onto the battery connector and onto the seat post which can scratch it if you’re taking it out to charge, you will need a cable to lock the saddle to the bike but that could easily be cut so it’s not great for locking up anywhere.
The bike was an Emu Mini.
Edit, it looks like the battery connector on this is just below the saddle and not at the bottom of the post so that’s better.
Love this! Thank you for sharing
Love the look of the beast. Girthy?? 😂
It's a girthy boiiiii
Hi Sweety! What do you recommend for an cargo ebike ??
Added to my wish list 😂
Hehe it's a goodun! If you pull the trigger please consider buying through us as your support really helps myself and the team continue to make these videos 🤗 also we'll be sure to look after you
Lovely bike and great review. My only concern design wise is the seat post containing the battery. Did you find that saddle stem flex at all being that it is unsupported. Wondered if this could affect the batteries and possible fire hazard.
An interesting thought. This style of battery integrated seat post is pretty common, so although I haven't noticed any flexing, I can imagine this will have been considered in the manufacturing process
Can u buy accessories like carriers etc
Hi Eilis, good review! Interesting ebike! If not mistaken, ADO seems like a Chinese brand and manufacturers are in China.
Yes that’s correct!
How do you get the horn on the throttle controller to work. My throttle assistance works but the horn button doesn't do anything ?
Forgot to say thank u xx
How do you lock the battery? If it's in the saddle tube can't it easily be stolen? Do you have to carry the battery and saddle around with you all the time?
Unfortunately, yes. I carried the seat post through the supermarket today.
How many electric folder single speed bikes did you ride?
hi, Would you like to review PVY Z20 PLUS? A fat bike with triple shock suspension and 100Nm of torque.
Guys you need to review the Eleglide M1 plus e-bike, affordable at £608. 250w, 100km range. Close to pulling the trigger. Just need your opinion on it
Just looking at the spec, if you want something for whizzing around the city that might last you a couple of years then it seems like a reasonable purchase. Not sure it would handle trails or rough terrain though.
@Electroheads that's awesome. I'm in the whipping around the city camp. Maybe the occasional off road trip around richmond/bushy Park. But not often. So hopefully this will last a good few years. Thanks Eilis 👍
Go to a dealer get a test ride and make up your own opinion about it.
The Air 20 reminds me a lot of the Carbo X. Any major differences worth pointing out? What gives the Air 20 an edge over the Carbo?
I haven't tried the Carbo X so it's hard to say but looking at price alone the Air 20 is much more affordable. Lots of subs comment on the price factor so I know that's a big one for people and the Air 20 offers a great package for its price
Main difference is one is carbon fibre the other is aluminium. Other than that pretty much the same I think. I have seen another reviewer state the belt isn't from a known brand on the ado, it's a lower quality one. Obviously there is cut backs for a lower price point but that's ok as long as they don't skimp too much
Do you have or have you tested the Ado A20+ ?
I know you have the Ado Beast 20F but has not seen anything regarding the A20+
thanks!
I haven't but if/when it comes through the doors I'll keep in mind to get some info on it out there for ya ☺
I like Eilis!
I'm very interested in buying this bike but I'm worried it is too small for me. I am 190cm, website says suitable for people 150-200cm but I've never ridden a folding bike before, not sure how accurate their height range is and obviously there's only one frame size. Anybody on the taller side have experience of using this bike?
love the bike, but for some reason I do feel more resistance after the PAS cuts out - but it doesnt feel like the natural drag from a motorless bike
Something worth mentioning is does your local bike shop support this make of bike ie can it service and repair the bike and get spare parts ok. It might be advisable to check on that before purchase.
Lbs suck, they hate supporting anything they don't stock, and all they stock is pricey Bosch motors. I found a guy on FB who does bike repairs from his garage, very good setup better than pros, as for parts we can order online. Anyway you got to either learn it yourself or find a cool dude locally
Lovely and irresistibly beautiful
And the bike is quite nice too 😆
I am interested in getting one of these and next time I am in London I will come for a test ride. One concern I have is the fact it only has one gear and one limitation of your reviews is that you do very little riding on (significant) hills. Does anyone have any experience of what this bike is like to ride on more hilly terrain? Does it suffer from the lack of gears?
I've been trying to get the same answer no one wants to answer that question 🤔
Do you like this more than the Fiido X?
I think it depends on your preference: belt drive vs. gear shift
I had to choose and landed on the Air 20.
Yes!
It also has adjustable handle height, so can be suitable for a more upright ride.
Yeah this is a great feature!
Can you answer this question for me as I’m confused when I see you taking electric bikes on tubs and buses when I no there not allowed on tubes and not allowed on London buses. As I have a Gocycle and I’ve had it for 2yrs and I found 18months ago you was fine but sometime after that they stopped it. When I get on the tube at Shepherds Bush it say loudly no electrics bikes or escooters allowed on the London Underground and I get the same thing getting off at Oxford st station. So why do you keep showing you taking them on the underground and the tube making people think you can when legally you can’t
To my understanding only electric scooters and e-unicycles are banned from TFL. Folding e-bikes have not
5:30 I'm going to go all tyre nerd on you, but tread pattern influencing grip in wet weather (bikes don't aquaplane like cars do, due to the concentrated force on a small contact patch per tyre) is nowhere near the most important factor in keeping the tyres gripping through the water on the road surface. Quality casing construction (conformability) and a tyre tread rubber compound designed for adhesion in wet weather are much more important. Cheap tyres won't grip, IOW.
That last sentence was really needed 😂 thank you! Always love to learn more
Doesn't this battery placement make it very easy to get stolen? (sorry I live in such a country)
You can take it with you or lock it in place!
This looks very very similar (and in weight to) to the EoVolt Confort 20". They all seem to be clones of Chinese bikes. They are all so similar in their folding hinge placement, battery tech, handlebar displays etc. No harm in any of that but just saying.
You live it more than Mirider GB3?
wth 1500£? hmmmmm
Question for everyone. How did the 250w become the maximum legal limit?
Good question. I have a 750w and couldn't imagine having a 250w one,
@@NeilukukUK law…
@@loushared6602 I have had zero problems with the law. My bike looks like a normal bike and i don't ride fast. I understand that it's still against the law though.
Yeah the motor size should be irrelevant, if they're going to force a 25kmh speed limiter then it doesn't matter if you have 1000w or whatever, just makes hill climbs easier. Think of various engine sizes in cars but all must adhere to the speed limit of the road
Can you put a 7 year old in the back with a frame?
It's a real shame that it's single gear. If it had a hub gearbox I'd be strongly considering it.
Fiido D21 seems closest, almost the same bike but with gears. Don't bother with X model
@@temorinkaari good shout
Battery can easily be stolen. That is my only point of concern. For the rest it is my ideal folding bike.
Jep, only about 1 out of 5 reviewers talk about this! I heard rumors (?) about a more secure clamp they're bringing to the market, but I have to get more information on this one.
You can take either the bike or the seat post (aka the battery) with You depending the circumstances
@@gunnmlo99 Which is not ideal.
It cost 25pound on the original website is it a scam
What you talking about?? I have one and I love it, it's not a scam
250w peak? the ebike rule is 250w continious as far as im aware.
Reminds me of a Fiido 4ds foldable I owned. Same lines. White. Cracking bike, did 4,500 kms before selling it. That too could have done with front suspension, but never let me down back and forward to work (in all conditions) other than punctures. Paid a lot less than this ADO and with a better battery. Good review. Is there an ADO similar to Fiido, I can only see Engwe bikes near to the Fiido and same price range. 👍 Keep up the the good work.
I have donor over 20,000 mi on my Fiido L3
Ado is junk
We have just returned a new one Because it was crap didn't work right and the brakes didn't work right
The one she is reviewing is too low geared and you can't ride up a hill
It's a paid review They will say it's good lol
Where does it leave you when the battery dies altogether with a belt drive? Can it still be pedalled without power? This is my concern with a belt drive, sooner or later the battery will die and no longer be manufactured, so wouldn't it be better to get a bike with gears so it can still be used when the battery can't?
The Air 20 is absolutely fine to pedal without electric assist. The same can't be said for the Honbike HF01 😂
Just to add to this, we have been reviewing and riding e-bikes for 4 years and none of our bikes’ batteries have ever died.
Generally 5 years is the minimum you should get from an e-bike battery. We do a lot of consultation with companies before listing them on our marketplace and that we think ADO are a reputable company who are here to stay.
But if you want an ebike with gears then the Estarli e20 is exactly what you're after! electroheads.com/products/estarli-e20-e-bike-1
DONT BY ELECTRIC BIKES UNLESS THERE ARE SPARE PARTS, CABLES, ETC FOR FIXING
What’s the cost of changing the battery = average cost ? Would a seat suspension gadget fit on the seat post ? Or maybe the Brooks seat with springs might do the trick? Surprised no manufacturer hasn’t come up with a mini wind turbine attached to the bike that would charge the bike as one rides , like the fact it’s got a belt drive ,
The cost REALLY isn't something you have to consider!
In the back of my head I have something like 4€ for 1500km. It could be wrong, it was just the title of a video I saw a few days ago.
The suspension on the seat post is an interesting topic! If you find something online, let me know! I'll do the same! First my Air 20 has to be delivered but if I can think of a solution, maybe I'll remember that someone had the same idea. :)
I'd doubt, that a wind turbine would be effective enough. I've seen a video of a guy that put a wind turbine on his pick-up truck and the amount of energy he got from it was surprising, but not that high either.
@@MaeckesPlanB thinking really of a mini turbine, seems the amount of wind generated while cycling that someone hasn’t come up with something to capture that element it’s there winter ,summer, the amount of wind force as cycling anywhere wasn’t used , seems daft not too use something that’s free , may the wind on your back always be your own.
@@KavanOBrien It seems that we both don't have the knowledge in physics to determine wether that would be feasible. It's a great idea, don't get me wrong, just the efficiency is debatable. I don't think that riding 1 hour at 25 km/h could even charge a mobile phone. Who knows, maybe you're right, but I don't think it would be effective enough. Consider this: It takes multiple hours to charge an ebike battery at home.
@@MaeckesPlanB Of course it is feasible, a dynamo can charge lights as you pedal as well as your mobile, putting mini turbines in drain pipes can generate electricity to charge batteries , so when you think about all bikes are hollow tubes , can you imagine the force generated with the wind going through the main frame, even with a gentle ride around town , imagine a hose pipe with the same water pressure put a certain end attachment on the pipe you’ve got a pressure washer, so basically what I’m trying to say very badly with my terrible explanation is , sounds that you are also a person that cycles, when you are out next on a gentle ride just take notice even on a calm and sunny day how much wind you are facing be it from the front or from the rear , A little experiment you could do, are you up to the challenge ? Try and get one of the small windmills the kids have when they go to the beach, or better get an old laptop fan out of the unit, purpose is to see the actual force and how much energy is be generated, am I a mad scientist or just mad , I bet the person who developed the Brompton was laughed at when he said I’m going to make a folding bike , so if people laugh at my ideas at least I’ve put a smile on their faces.
Классный велик
149 for the glasses? Definitely not. :/
Mmmm that ride looks absolutely delicious 🫦 full stop.
Looks like a really cool city bike. I'm gonna reccomend it to a friend. :-)
Maybe it was lighter before it was fully charged😂😂😂😂😂
3 chaindrive gearz plus electric
The saddle of my ADO air 20 broke and came off while I was riding on it in the middle of the road. I fell off the bike onto the road and got injuries. If there were a car, the bike would have killed me. It turned out the bolt of saddle had failed and could not hold the saddle. I'm 63kg so not above weight limits. There are few ADO owners had the same problem. If are one of them, would you please let me know?
I bet you are getting paid for this review
Interesting but only a single speed....
Very observative!