FREEZE vs RENDER vs BOUNCE- What should you use?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 เม.ย. 2022
- In this video, I am touching on a burning topic: Which is BEST?
Freeze, Bounce or Render?
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Heart-felt suggestion for Steinberg: implement Dom's BOOM! as a confirmation sound each time a command is successfully completed, please! ;)
Hiding the original un-processed tracks in the mixer is a brilliant idea. I never thought of that before. Keep everything in your workflow clean!
Fast and Clear ! thank you Dom !
Informative, to the point and nicely presented
As I record, I use bounce all the time ! I did not use the others yet.
nice one mate! i really appreciate this kind of valuable information. thanks
Very helpful description of these functions. Love the macro idea. Thanks Dom!
Love 💕 your vids Dom always informative. Never change that intro love seeing the beautiful montage
Updating my production techniques with your videos. Thanks bro!
Excellent, Dom. Great presentation.
Top tips as usual :-) i use most of what you were saying but i always come away with learning something new from every video you do. thanks again.
Yep, fabulous explanation, which has changed my workflow completely as up to now I have always saved a new version of the project and then rendered all the MIDI tracks and then deleted them. Disabling and hiding them is SO MUCH better and enables me to easily go back a stage if necessary, instead of messing about importing from previous projects etc. Thanks for that .... every day is a school day! x
Thank you so much for this information. This has totally improved my knowledge. And has helped me so much. I appreciate it a lot!
Great tutorial! Very clear and I have all my answers :D
Rollo from the show 'The Vikings' now I finally remembered who you are reminding me of. Damn cool my man. Thx for the video! ❤
Brilliant explanations Dom! I always wondered what the render in place settings meant exactly and now I know! Thank you!
Never knew Cubase has a bounce feature. Thank you!
Thanks Dom for sharing. Very useful tips. Cheers!
You're making me fall in love with Cubase more and more!
Perfect timing for your clip. This topics is just what I struggle with now at the moment. Thanx alot for sharing your knowles 🙂
thx Dom, for good another video, always learn something new with your vids..
very useful. Thanks sir!
Thank you Dom. I use the Render in Place so often now. What a tremendous asset.
It defenitely helped me to understand what I have to do to save resources. Thank you!
Good Tips Dom.
Hi Dom, thanks so much for this Video. Your channel is Gold!
Thanks Dom, great video!
Super Good! I can't believe that I never thought to use track versions to keep my original events safe when I bounce. 🤗
Very well explained, Thanks God bless.
Really cool and interesting video as usually, Dom! Thank you! Since I got sound design lessons in online school I only use render in place. I almost never use freeze. And I didn't even know about bounce function))
I needed this tutorial last Monday. I had so much variaudio and freeware on the many many vocal takes that I couldn't get a mix down without CPU overload. I bounced the tracks, and then the audio mix down worked. Learning the hard way!
This is literally what I'm trying to figure out right this second
Great tip Dom. Been using render in place for a while now but didnt know about disabling the track and hiding it. That's great advise. Same goes with bounce, was never really sure about that, but you've cleared all that up now. Thanks for the tip. :-)
Great reminder, I've been using freeze functionality since 2005 in my Steinberg DAW. I love the passion you have for mixing and production. Thanks for reminding me of my why Dom!
Amazing video! Thank you man! My computer has been grinding to a halt because I have been just freezing my tracks. Render in place looks awesome
I have been using Render in place all the time... great feature. Thank you
thanks dom!
Thanks Dom, I am still a learner of this amazing program but I find your videos to be the best resource on TH-cam for it, thanks for all your guidance.
Ooo, I never thought of creating a duplicate version before bouncing. A simple extra step that keeps options open later. Thanks!
Thank you so much for this video! This is going to help a lot! Render in place is just what I am looking for. :-)
Lightbulb moment - thank you :)
This is the best explanation and comparison of these three features. My CPU is happy now. Thank you Dom. Boom!
As always, I do feel, that I've learn something useful. I've been using those features for a while , but detail explanations of your part, make the whole process make sense in my head. I see the broad picture, if you know what I mean. Love your tutoriel, it's always fun, to the point, with full explanation....like rendering in place with Complete Path and Master Effects..
Hadn't thought about using duplicate versions to save the pre-rendered state - good tip!
Great video Dom. I knew about all these methods but didn't really understand the pro and con of each option and this really helped. To be honest most of the time I think Render in Place will be the right option.
Thanks a lot, once again 😎👍
Render in place (not specifying a name but asking it to use the existing name on a locked track) does not work in Cubase 12.0.70 My rendered track is named "Stereo Out (R)" under that circumstance which is clearly a bug in Cubase.
Actually you ve just helped me solved another problem . Which i had about plug ins usage: DSP resources reached so some plug ins are disabled... Now i have a solution to that thanks!
Freeze was in Cubase SX3 in 2004 or the next update of SX3 from there. I was definitely a bit confused about how to properly use bounce and render in place so thank you for the demystification.😎
Render in place is the new wave for me. Thanks once again Dom..
Yes! Flexibility is the key. Choose what you need on a case by case option.
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Great video as always, thanks! Can't believe how much I've learned from your videos over the years. Quick question concerning the bounce selection feature: wouldn't "audio --> events to part" do the same thing in the example of the vocal chops?
Very helpful video
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Very useful! 😁💪🎼
I got the crossgrade to Nuendo 12 and I feel so happy that I decided to make the (progressive) transition to it, cuz Steinberg really puts in the effort. To be perfect, all they need to do is to address the sloppy Clip Gain automation (make it like in Studio One). After that, I would have nothing else to ask for. And Thanks, Dom, you are the GOAT in teaching Cubase 💙
Excellent explanation and tutorial. I can see now that freezing the tracks has become a bit redundant, thanks to Cubases rendering options. This information will come in very handy when I begin adding Vox to my VSTi tracks.... Saving CPU and Ram may become crucial in my workflow....Thank You Dom.
THANKS! I didn't know about any of these things... and for me render in place is going to be in constant use. I used to route what I wanted to an audio track and record it that way. Doing that works just like render in place but obviously it takes more time and thought to get it right.
Merci, very useful.
Thanks Dom for all your videos, great tips and inspiration!
Just an info regarding FREEZE...cubase 12 always crashes when you try to freeze an instrument track. When you SOLO the track before freezing all works fine
It would be interesting and practical to have in the rendering options on the spot, the choice to integrate or not the auxiliaries independently in each situation. In dry or through the groups or also through the master bus. in each situation the choice to put them or not.
Worth to wait the whole week to Friday🥇🥇🥇🥇Amazing as allways regards from🇮🇱
Great Video!
Hey Dom,
great Video, super helpfull.
THX for your genius Content :-))))
Best wishes George
Love it 😍 Render In Place. Ought to do a song about.
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Hello Dom, as always thank you so much for the video. Could you please do a video about dither and why is it so important when mastering? And could you also talk about the diference between mastering with 44100 sample rate and 48000 and also the bit depth 16 or 24? And the diference between mastering for streaming services and CD? It would be so cool if you could make a video about this because there’s not much about this on TH-cam. Thank you so much! Love all of your videos!
Great video Dom!! I tried the Render in Place option, but didn't work that good for me. I use a lot of VST instruments with Multi Tracks. So to render all the channels of a single instrument I have to do them one by one, or select all the events involved, which sometimes is not that easy in a complex project. Besides it doesn't unload the VST instrument, so I still prefer freezing the VST instruments instead, but I might give it another chace the way you do it. Thanls!!
Merci cool tuto
THIS, is what I've been looking for!. I finally hit my CPU wall with a new strings VST. I always knew about the export function which has been around since, the beginning of time, time being the key word!........but render is going to save me so much time me right now!!
Grazie Dom! :-)
Hey Dom. Thanks for the video. Funny how I literally experimiented with these functions this past week. Great tip on keeping a duplicate version before bouncing. Two questions not related:
1. Regarding A/B referencing in Control Room: Is there a way to route or connect the reference track (cue mix) to the master meter? I always have to use the Supervision level meter to A/B compare the peak and RMS of my mix with the reference mix. The master meter only reflects the readings for the mix, even when you switch to the cue.
2. Have you ever considered doing a course for Cubase? I think your knowledge is invaluable, particularly when it comes to electronic music production. Many ppl still think Cubase is this dinosaur that's outdated. Of course that's only because it's not easy to crack so it's not everyone who has it like some other DAWs that will remain namelesss - let's just say I like all kinds of "fruit" but I mainly use Cubase from start to finish in my production. I'd buy your course in a second!
I'm happy I found this video, my older laptop is having a hard time with CPU. I currently have a mix I'm working on and I can't export because it just crashes. So I went to use render in place outboard gear tracks to try and save some CPU and unfortunately I'm having the same issue. Now I don't know what to do 🤔☹️. I guess for now on I'll commit to R.I.P faster.
It would be cool to finally have the freeze function also for Group and FX channels like in other DAW's.
thanks you are the best!!! 😀
Would like to see a dedicated video on using analog gear with render, which you mentioned at the end of this video.
The other advantage of freeze is that you can select *multiple* tracks and leave them all to render in place while you make a fresh coffee! That was a really good addition in later Cubase iterations (although I never select unload instrument as every now and again it crashes Cubase - particularly with VPS Avenger for some reason...)
I do almost like you Dom when I deactivate tracks after rendering them, but then I file them all in a folder that I call backup. It's convenient to find everything in the same place afterwards.
I always use render in place!
One thing I’ve noticed is that freeze does NOT work for post-fader inserts. If you have high-resource inserts, move them to pre-fader to save CPU when frozen. Great video, I have come back to it several times!
Hey dom ! Great video, please do a video on vst live pro .
I love how Cubase now has Render In Place (or RIP Export/Import tracks). I have Cubase 11 but also have PCs running 32 bit plugins on Cubase SX3, 4 & 5 which won't work on 64 bit C11, so I know how time consuming Exporting and Importing tracks can be when using those versions and when I want to pull tracks together into C11. TBH I still don't like either the colour or the look of the new screens on C11 (and probably won't like C12 if I upgrade) but you can't argue with the features that C11 has in comparison to the earlier versions of Cubase. As always Dom, another great tutorial, thank you.
Splendid video Dom - and splendid shirt!! Come see me in Vegas sometime. Also - - yes, a MIDI Chord pack ad ran in the middle and it didn't hurt me one bit. If these folks pay money to keep your bills paid so you can keep giving this stuff, - -well - there's way worse things on the internet than MID chord packs, eh?
Hey Dom, great video as always. To separate the mixing process from creation I tend to bounce my midi to audio, delete the midi channels and save it as a separate project. Saves a lot on loading times, especially if you have tonnes of sample based instruments. Each to their own workflow though ;)
Hi Adrian, good shout. I do the same too. I may have C11 running on a Core i7 but it still struggles at times to play all my tracks. That way you can always go back and retrieve tracks if you're later unhappy with them and need to tweak and import them as a stem. I also export and import stems from older versions of 32 bit Cubase and it was never much fun when the CPU on those older machines started to stutter. Perhaps it's the experience of using older tech and old versions of Cubase that has led to my cautious approach/workflow?
Yeah Adrian my process too. I have a 4 file project template, tracking, arranging, mixing and mastering. Helps me focus on the job at hand and reminds me not to get hung up on mixing when I’m arranging etc. I’ve always exported audio I didn’t know about render in place. That will be a massive time saver, so thanks Dom
@@madmac66 it’s also a good process for archiving material. What happens if the vst you used to create the track is no longer available or doesn’t work with a version of Cubase. I learnt the hard way a long time ago.
For me I use this, for making different versions, with different vst instruments and fx and try different ideas.
More Dom gold right here.
I upgraded from Elements to Artist recently for two main reasons (1) Getting Padshop & Retrolouge. (2) Render in Place - not just for the saving in CPU but the creative control a audio file gives you.
RENDER IS SUPERB!!!
Makes my job smoother as an Engineer
And keeps the vocals sounding clean with only
2.3 ms of latency in and out! When working with VST instruments is the main reason for using this feature as well as getting your mix ready to send stems to a mastering studio if needed!
All At 96k! Wowzer!
Thanx Dom!
Thank you, Dom! I'd like to have in Cubase Pro a single button (with adjustable settings behind it) to convert every selected SubGroup into Stereo Stems. BTW could you make a video about the wishes of Cubase users for the future? KUTGW :)
Wow, I learn't a lot in this video I tell yah... The duplicate version on a track I never knew existed until now. Many thanks. Bounce Selection reasons, also, great reasons given for doing so.
Thanks!
Thank you so much my friend, highly appreciated ❤️
Could you make videos for what makes each genre just that type of genre? Sounds, instruments, scales, chords, beat, maybe voice, etc. What they are that stands out with just that kind of genre from others. I think many would have liked to see it and then maybe get better at the kind of music they like.
Hey Dom, very interesting topic. In my own practice, I freeze instruments tracks when I need to save some RAM, knowing that I'll modify them later. I'm doing Render in place when I know my MIDI content is definitive, and to save some time while freezing the tracks - as more the track is long, the more MIDI message it got, the longer it takes to freeze ! But anyway, you'll know better. I'll watch !
Great comment. The video did an excellent job of describing what each feature does, but it was not completely clear on when one is better than the other. But rendering tracks in place before freezing them seems like it would save RAM as well as make freezing faster. It had not occurred to me that these tools were meant to be, or could be, used in conjuction.
Awesome
Hi Dom! Thanks for the great video. You said that you use real time rendering when working with analog equipment (compressors, EQs, etc). Can you please tell me how to enable real time rendering for render in place?
Bounce selection also comes in handy when you use multiple copies of a file in the track, and you only want to manipulate one of them with ARA modules, direct processing etc. If you don't bounce a unique version, you are in for a world of pain understanding what's going on.
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Hey Dom, can I render in place to mono or only to stereo? Maybe I just didn't find some option. Great job man, love your Cubase video.
Please song overall mixing, mastering video tutorial
Well done my friend. Can we presume then that rendering in place the complete path through to the master effects of our events selection would be the ideal way of exporting stems as well? I’m saying this because we all know of the pitfalls of exporting stems that they nearly always end up not summing up to the original level of the original track but much higher?
Shouldn’t “render in place” with rendering all the path completely solve this problem? Would love your opinion on this.