Should you use Inserts or Send FX? Think smart 😉
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2021
- In this video, we talk about the eternal question: Should you use Inserts or Send effects???
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This is definitely great for vocals. The more I know,, the more I realize how little I know.👍
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At last some body explained it in a way that I understand :) Thanks a lot
I like that you start with, there are no rules. So true and one of the greatest parts of making music.
Thank you for being so welcoming, informative, friendly, enthusiastic and for making music production much less intimidating. Loving your videos and loving cubase pro! 🙌🌟
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As a producer who has started mixing other people’s projects, the biggest issue I’ve encountered is with delays printed as inserts. You have no control over the delays at that point, you start compressing things and suddenly that echo is stepping on the legibility of certain words. I always ask for dry vocals too, but then I need to recreate their effects chain just to automate one delay phrase that got in the way. Reverbs? If it’s not drowning in it I can usually work around it. I only send to reverbs when it’s a shared reverb between tracks, my sort of “global ambience” chain. But delays, always a send or a separate track for the big throws
I learnt this for myself years ago and it's good to get confirmation that I'm on the right track
There's something wonderfully reassuring when Dom opens a new Cubase video. You know you're in good hands. 😊
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Also to consider: If you record onto mono tracks, the inserts will always be in mono. I do my vocals in mono because it's more efficient & easier to automate the volume with the pen tool. If I want a reverb or delay that has stereo separation, I have to use a send to an FX channel that routes to a stereo bus/group so I'll actually get the left/right separation.
Thank you! This is by far the best explanation I have found on inserts vs. sends.
The issue mentioned only affects some reverb plugins. The SSL Flexverb, for example, allows the dry signal to bypass the reverb processing, to be mixed in, as the final stage before output. There may be other plugs which do the same.
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Even knowing this process quite well, I still love watching your videos. It’s almost like having that first “Aha!” moment again. People, listen to this advice! It’ll save you so much hassle and re-doing of things. Trust me. Actually, trust Dom. Awesome video. 👏🏼
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Very useful stuff for me, as always, thanks Dom!
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Thanks so much for this Dom!😊 Brilliant, such a great demonstration of the differences you can achieve!
GREAT video, Dom!! Thanks so much!!!
Very insightful and helpful Dom, thank you!
Great tutorial. I might add that it can save cpu resources to use a single send instead of several inserts. Still, every time I thought, "...and you can do this..." It was the next thing you said. I love the way you teach, Dom!!
Took the words outta my mouth! I do this to put less pressure on the cpu 👍🏼
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Fantastic Dom, thank you.
This was very helpful, thank you.
I need such episodes! A very important topic explained as simply as possible ... Thanks Dom!
Dude is coming with the important questions and content, like always. 🔥
Very helpful video mate!
Another fantastic video! You always have the most clear, concise explanation for the why, how and why not. Thank you.
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Great, simplified explanation! Thanks, Dom!
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Very clear and informative video. . I will wait for more this high clarity videos. Fantastic. Just blowed my mind.
Thank you Dom
Thanks so much dom for breaking this down for us I use really get confused elot with with inserts and send,especially with reverb and you just clarify and made it really easy to understand.😍😍😍😍
Thanks friend, very useful tutorial !
Once more a master class. Thank you.
Bro, this was an awesome tutorial. I have learned so much from watching your videos. Thanks, Dom!!!!
This is the best explanation I've heard for this, thank you!
Super clear!
Oh boy, this was just what I needed right now! Thanks. I loved the advantages and disadvantages for both ways, too: I can see how I can use both now. Thanks much.
Thanks 🙏 Best explanation i have found. I think I understand it 👍
Thank you again for a helpful video! You always open my eyes on something...........
finally a very good explanation between insert / send effect ! thank you very much !
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Again a great advice. Even if i used it in an intuitive way this sounds logical now. Many thanks
Beautifully explained Dom.
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You're good! Dam....very clear now, thank you!!
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Much appreciated!
Great instruction man. Thanks alot. "know what you're doing!"
Thanks Dom, perfect timing with this vid!
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This video was very helpful.
Please we need the video on how to create the automations from the send
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Good video. Thanks.
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Clarity finally. Thanks!
I'm a beginner and am glad to know this, thanks. Man this stuff is so complicated!
Thanks for sharing your Cubase wisdom. I would really love to see a video on how to approach the procuction of an album or EP in Cubase. Having all tracks in one project supports good consistence between tracks but you have to use automation a lot. Having all tracks in seperate projects is more flexible but quite timeconsuming if you make mix decisions for one song that need to be applied to the other songs. Would be great to see a video on that topic.
Thanks Dom. Another great tutorial. I'm from the 80's studio where lexicons etc were v expensive! Hence we used aux sends cos we didn't have many FX! Also, if you use the same reverb in on various tracks, they sound as if they are coming from the same room 👍. Thanks again 👍
great explaination, why I should use the Send-Way instead of the Insert-Way for Reverb on vocals - because of remeining the same Volume of the Dry-Signal - Thank you so much
Also, using as a send instead of an insert saves on CPU/processing power. You can make one reverb and dial in the amount via send on multiple tracks.
Hi Dom, thanks for the video!!. This has helped me a lot!! I have been working on a Christmas song( that i wrote) and have done in my home studio, and although i am by no means a singer, i have had to do the vocals myself, so the vocals are not perfect! I had the vocals with insert reverb effects, and although it did not sound too bad, something wasn't quite right, the vocals were not sitting right? I changed all the settings so that the vocal tracks were using a reverb send effect, and on that send i placed my 2 favourite reverbs, The change has made things much better, the vocals are sitting much better in the mix!!!!!!! The overall result has made me happier with the vocals, especially as i am not a singer!!!!! Dom, thank you so much!!!! You're the best!
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as a beginner in Cubase you help me a lot and as a 1 year doing mixing i always doing wrong. ( what i want is dry vocals with reverb but i always put in insert )
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One way as just a good practice. One way as a creative effect, that gets used less often. ...But also don't forget to enjoy it. Thank you for explaining these things for those of us who are new...or even for those who just need to be reminded. 😅 These are the videos we need.
Thank you for your support. I appreciate your videos. I am not a Pro and I (just) like to make and publish my own songs. After working with Cubase for quite a long time I now finally know the difference between insert and send.
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Hi Don, thanks for this, again great learning video.
I guess I have been very lazy. I have always used revers as an insert. The problem as you wellicht said was that always ended up losing the volume of the track I was hoping to enrich. (Lossing dry signal).
I now understand the importance of using this effect, (also delay) as a send.
I am sure my tracks will sound 99 % more clear, (less muddy) and that is whay we all want at the end, a very balanced sing. Thanks man, gretige from Amsterdam.
I'm glad you addressed the guitar example in the end because I had stuck to the rule that delay and reverb should always be on Sends, but struggled in my mixes with balancing the soundscape of ambience and depth. Reintroducing such on Inserts really helped me not being so square with "what's right", and I think the perfect question to ask is, where do the want the location of the sound to be in the soundscape and do you want to be able to distinguish the sound source? If so, keep dry, if not, put it on Insert and through it far back and give focus to other instruments in the forefront.
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In general, I think of inserts as being track specific, groups as ... well, a group of similar tracks, and sends as when I want use the same process on a bunch of different tracks. I know that the sends are a carry-over from consoles and when you only had one particular reverb. The digital domain definitely gives a lot more leeway and flexibility =]
Another technique I've used - and maybe continue to use - is to do parallel processing. It's the same idea as parallel compression but it's just broader to include anything you want to process. You just duplicate the track and on the duplicate track, you can insert whatever effects you want and, if they have a wet/dry mix knob, set them to 100% (or whatever to taste but it should be greater than 50%). Then you can use your channel faders to blend the two parts together. That way you still get the clarity of the original dry signal on top of the effects you want. Similarly, this is a way not to have the effect overpower the track.
I've also played around with the "Abbey Road reverb trick", which is a deep cut below 600Hz and below and above 10,000Hz (hi-pass/low-pass respectively) before the reverb. This is done so you only want to the "juicy" stuff to get the reverb, which is all in the mid-range. Similarly, this avoids the muddiness that occurs when you send low (and even low-mid) frequencies as well as the loss of clarity for the high end. Unless the reverb plugin gives you a pre-EQ option, you would use it with the reverb set up as a send option.
If need to do automation on a track, use as insert, say a reverb that needs the parameters to be modified as you go along that track. If the effect has to reflect same atmosphere, say the room, then use as send effect. Regards.
I learned that "Abbey Road" technique from Bobby Owsinski and it really is kind of a magical thing. Thanks for sharing your concepts.
This helped a lot... again. Thank you!
Another nice vid. Some good ideas about post-processing the reverb send channel that are often overlooked.. adding chorus, saturation, etc. I think the vid missed out on one point that is very important for people running older systems, and that's CPU. If you start putting a bunch of different reverbs across channels as inserts, you might start running into problems. 2 or 3 different reverb channels setup up as sends will take the load off the CPU in large projects... though I sometimes wonder about build up problems that might occur if you are feeding a lot of tracks into one effects send.
Video about diference between reverb automatation with send or return fader would be great Dom!
thank you!
When I'm doing reverb throws on audio post projects, I usually quickly dupe the track, edit the clip to the sound I want to trigger the throw, and insert a reverb plugin (blend to taste). It's faster than automation, especially on tight deadlines!
This would be a tough sell approach in some daws for sure
Good video!
Regarding adding FX to only the reverb, with other DAWs, e.g. Bitwig Studio or Reaper, this is actually also possible if you use it as an insert. Even though I think it’s more straight forward to use a send in that case.
But adding reverb as a send increases overall volume of the (vocal) track; thus affecting the overall balance. Dry/Wet keeps the overall volume stable...
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I thought this was really good advice. Particularly because it pertains to a feature that is used in just about every single song if not tracks within a song, and of course, often the less experienced music creators among us (cough) end up awash with the reverb effect, drowning the song with track reverb, overall send reverb, some more mastering reverb…you’re the reverb lifeguard Dom! As with adding soft saturation/noise, it can get out of hand, man! Reverberation is really necessary if you perhaps only have a single instrument playing - the totally ‘dry’ nature of it can be dull as dishwater. But in the context of a song, or in an ACTUAL room or space, it immediately needs to be much more measured and controlled. In a way, you are treating the reverb as a separate but always-present ‘shadow’ voice, that may need different treatment to the main signal or instrument/voice.
It seems maybe, that reverb can exaggerate any ‘problem’ regions in the frequency range, like a runaway signal on a synth might cause a clamour. I keep noticing on GarageBand iOS, there’s always a limiter on the range of frequencies when you institute a track reverb (insert reverb), and it’s always set to lose the top few kHz of the frequencies, as standard. PROBLEM however, in Cubasis on iOS I notice on my ipad Pro 2, the ‘send’ has what appears to be latency? I noticed because I put Fabfilter ProQ3 in there, and there’s a delay. With reverb, the reverb was delayed compared to the sound - in this case, a snare drum. It took me a while to realise, and I had to take the reverb off the ‘send’ and put all my reverb in Cubasis, into ‘insert’ in each track! I know you are knowledgeable on Steinberg, any ideas on this?
It’s a cool effect if you want it. Now I think about it, it could be to do with the latency setting you set Cubasis up with, but that’s meant to be to take care of some possible issue or other, so I am not sure this would be a fix, even if messing with it did anything. Thanks though, I will have to watch this video through, a couple of times more to make sure I pick it all up. Thanks Dom.
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A possible reason to put a reverb as an insert could be if you want the sum of the reverb and the dry signal to be processed together like with a saturator, compressor or a gate. Using it on a snare this way comes to mind
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