Master Buss Processor - Plugins or Hardware - Neve MBP / Stam / UAD / SSL
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I agree! Man that limiter sounds great! Great video!
OMG! I instantly recognized the song as Chelsea cuz it came up in my discover weekly about a month ago. Cool to hear what the raw tracks sound like as the final mix posted to streaming services sounds so different. Great video, Barry!
I kept telling myself while I was doing all of this, I know this song, I know I know this song, and of course I didn’t realize that until I posted this video and got a copyright strike.
Don’t forget you can use the feedback compression on the mbp, use the limiter to add color then add silk. You can also unlink the channels to let the compressor breathe.
Barry I agree with you. I own the Neve it is a game changer
Chelsea is my favourite football team thanks for the plug. Good video.
That’s very true about the top Engineers. Thanks Barry.
That mascot sort of looks like Barry... LOL!!! Good video sir. I LOVE that you mentioned the truth about the big-wigs mixing ITB because they have incredibly well recorded tracks to begin with. Their tracks sound so good because they are using good mics, good mic pre's and analog saturation, EQ etc. Another cool tool in deciding if a piece of hardware (or a plug in) is doing a good job is to dial it in the way you want. Volume match it, then listen for awhile. After you are accustomed to it, bypass it. If you start asking what went wrong, then it is a cool piece. If you barely noticed it was gone.... well then.... LOL!!
Awesome Content G🙏
Great video. MBP Portico II is my dream gear. Also like the Bettermaker. But I do not have that budget yet. I have use the MBP on Analog Access but the latency make the workflow not fun. I have the Stam and you are right , is great.
Fantastic video, I really enjoyed it. Could you make a video on the topic of mix busses and preparations for mastering, how to control peaks and when to use the clipper.
I just purchased a RND Mbp . First impression it’s AWSOME ! Worth the money ?, to me it’s made a huge difference in my mixes . The stereo field controls are far beyond the software ones .
I just purchased a portico II. I suffered over the decision but finally pulled the trigger. Can't wait to see what you think.
Acustica Audio has a Neve MBP and pórtico emulation suite called snow, it is pretty good.
The Stam sounds sooooooo damn good! But maybe it's just me, I think it and the Neve are best in this video
Thanks for the great videos Barry. Just a quick question. What do you use for your master bus preamps? I’ve been considering the warm audio 273 for that purpose. Thanks, Greg
You wouldn't use a preamp on a matter bus. The preamp is essentially what you would use to amplify your instrument or voice through a mic so that it would have loud signal going into your DAW/recorder. These master bus processors he's using here in this video are meant to polish the tonal and dynamic balance of the song after it's already been recorded and mixed. Only for example here, he decided not to do a full mix (balancing the tracks then a tonal and dynamic shaping of the individual tracks) just so the listener can hear what these processors can do to a mix without the distraction of other processing (EQ, compression, effects, etc) on the individual tracks or stems.
I hope all of that makes sense! 🙏🏿
I’ve been throwing all 5 SSL Native Fusion plugins into Waves Studiorack and using that setup on each stem in LUNA with a God Particle and same setup on Master for some stunning results.
Acustica Audio Snow is a Neve MBP emulation:)
The Rupert Neve Designs Master Buss Processor Portico II is the single piece of gear that I’ll own to the day I die. I WILL NOT EVER PART WITH IT. It’s perfect
I agree. That thing makes everything sound better. Sometimes it's by the compression or limiter, sometimes it's by the silk coloring (e.g., blue/red), sometimes by the stereo field editor, sometimes by changes in mid-side processing, and sometimes it's by any number of combinations of any or all of the above. Takes a good mix (or track or bus) and makes it sound professional. I refuse to live without it.
@@cortical1 Same for me! I love the Red Silk and the limiter, but basically every section is essential in my mix. I use it on every song I work on.
@@xXKAROLXx03 Yes, that red silk is magic!
Song rock❤❤❤❤❤
I bought Mac book pro 14 and love it but I need 64 go for all my plugins eg spitfire and superior drummer and Kontact is it best to buy a studio
Just a friendly heads-up, I did get a copyright claim on the very first video on my channel from using that exact same song and multi-tracks 😬: th-cam.com/video/WLPSiSZhOsk/w-d-xo.html
But you might be lucky .... it's always a bit hit and miss with TH-cam's content ID. I use the Neve Portico 5043 compressor on my mix bus by the way. The MBP, I can only drool over ;).
I got one, I knew I’d heard that song before😜. I let it go as I feel this video was important.
Keep up the good work and keep the truth live, that is what separates you from the commons!
Thank you!
Sincere question: Is the Nike and Texas Pete paid product placement? If so, fair enough. If not, might it be advisable to avoid that ambiguity? Otherwise, carry on with the studio talk!
Nice review. I have the Bettermaker Limiter and its probably the only unit that is comparable to the Neve MBP. So to me it would have been more useful to see a sonic comparison/shootout of the BM vs the MBP (instead of being used in combination), as they both have M/S processing, VCA limiting, and frequency adjustable saturation. I still want to get an MBP in the mastering chain to put it through the paces and see if it can beat out the BM. Thanks!
I agree, but I had limited time with both units.
Can you give me the link to the tracks for this song? I love mixing songs from Produce Like a Pro and this one slipped my Radar. 🙂
I’ve been watching , listening to Warren Huart for years , he’s very down home 👍🎸🎼
This is awesome content right here Wonder what this would sound like on a Rap song sheesh
Amazing!
@@BarryJohns thank you so much for your feedback definitely subscribed to the channel I’ll be watching you keep up with this great content I personally enjoy it thank you
Thank you Barry for this video and your explanations at the end, because I think the masses of bedroom producers FORGET that very important detail is that those songs on the radio or ones winning awards were ALL recorded on high end analog gear FIRST, processed by additional gear and the console and THEN sent to the Schepps, Endors and CLAs of the world to be mixed in the box. They all came out of the box only to return later to be sent back and forth. They did not achieve that sound and mix using a Rode NT and a focusrite 2i2 and ANY of them, I don't care who is it is that tells you otherwise is freaking lying to you and are most likely paid shills for the plugin manufacturers, because you are NOT going to get that sound with plugin method. Hybrid is awesome and plugins have their place and you can certainly do a lot with them as I am a fabfilter fanboy, but I also have analog gear.
I tested the Lindell version of the Neve 1073 by BWX and it was no where close to my BAE 1073. Not even in the same universe of fatness, roundness, rich and creamy harmonics. Luckily I got the plugin on a fire sale so when I uninstalled it there was no real money lost. I have an SSL mic pre and I noticed the same thing. I would say use the plugins on material that is not prominent or matters least, but for steak and potatoes, hardware is the way to go, but your mileage may vary.
I’m going to address the real elephant in the room - Chelsea really needs to get out of this relationship!! 😂
She’s in too deep😜
@@BarryJohns 🤣
Hahah
Can you elaborate on the difference between a Mastering compressor and a Bus compressor?
Barry. I just pre ordered the new Stam FX-G384 clone. I am also getting a Dangerous 2 Bus +. I’ve considered adding a Drawmer 1976 to my master bus chain. Do you think that that might be overkill though? I want a stereo imager working with the Stam but wonder if that might be a little too much.
I’m not sure the Drawmer is best for master buss, they are a great company that makes great products.
If you have the Stam Buss Compressor coming, I suggest a pair of Pultec clones like the ones from AudioScape.
So an EQ over a saturator/imager? Real estate is also a factor and I know the Drawmer (I keep going back to them!) have a 1 U Pultec style EQ…
It’s also stereo
@@SinkaneTV I know, I think it’s great, but it may be doing some similar things to the Stam. I’d wait until the Stan arrived, get used to it, order the Drawmer try it out: if it’s what you are looking for keep it, if not return it. Here is what I can tell you is a pretty common master buss chain, buss compressor/Pultec eq’s. They are made for each other.
@@BarryJohns thank you always for taking time to respond! Respect, brother!
Would using (2) Rupert Neve’s “SHELFORD CHANNEL’s” do the same as the Portico 2 Buss? ( I own two for STEREO at times ... never thought of this? Thx for any input ( or if only one would work doing Lft. then Rt. Channel seperate )?
No it won't. Also - the MBP can't do everything that the shelford can.
You won't get width or depth controls on the shelfords iirc. Shelford is designed for incoming signal (tracking) and MBP is for outflow (final mix / master)
@@pb25193 thank you for responding to my question 🙏
Barry, I'm trying to decide between the wes audio dione and the stam, I really like the recall on the wes audio stuff. Any thoughts ?
I have the Dione and absolutely love it for what it’s worth!
@@YELLINGINTOTHEVOID Thanks, it looks like the one for me also.
Different flavors, the listeners who likes the music would not care. Your the only person who cares. If you have the funds thr Rupert Neve will give you a meater sound, the SSL a brighter more top end sound, and the API Plugin a standard plug in sound
What’s difference in the Rupert Neve Designs Portico II Master Buss Processor & the Rupert Neve Master Bus Transformer? Anyone? And are they similar to the SSL BUS PLUS AND SSL FUSION
I have the actual API 2500 and the plug in does not do this comparison justice. The API 2500 can hold its own to the portico, but it’s a $3200 compressor new. Thanks for your great videos.
I wish I had one when I did that. I love the 2500, a friend has one and every time I leave his place I’m saying to myself, buy one now!
The DI leads crack me up. 😂.
Isn’t it great!
@@BarryJohns yes.. and I mean mean it sincerely. I mix a lot of metal and I still just get a kick listening to DI guitar tracks next to double kick drums and screaming vocals.
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I'd argue the Audio Scape Buss Comp is at least as good as the Stam and more readily available.
I love audioscape, I prefer them typically to Stam.
@Barry Johns Studio Talk Hey Barry, are you a pro studio and where can I check out your credits?
No I’m a guy with a home studio dating what I’ve learned over my 30 years obsession😁
@@BarryJohns cool! Do you have any of the recordings you've made in your studio over the years available?
Texas Pete rules. Put that on pizza rolls. Trust me.
I put it on BLTs…delicioso
No matter how good the hardware is, it ain't gonna make that song any good lol
That’s a given regardless of any discussion.
Wrong samplerate?
This is too fast and pitched up :D
And you can hear the unamped guitar DIs too
Watch the video, I clearly said all I did was bring up faders and pan, talk to produce like a pro where I got it from, geez.
You are waaaaay tooooo focused on the original song, forget that as if you’d never heard it.
You are waaaaay tooooo focused on the original song, forget that as if you’d never heard it.