Hopefully it will cause TGV to go full Scottish helllooo at the start of his video and wear funny t-shirt. This need to turn into full TH-cam watch reviewing war for more entertainment.
Nah, far from it: This is just an homage, and a perfectly made one I feel myself being obliged to notice, my dear old chap ;) Jody, you got me again with this one 😂 Thanks ever so much for a grand start into my day!
My type B flieger is the Hamilton Pro Pilot Day Date, otherwise known as the “Interstellar”. It has the heritage of being worn in another galaxy and the durability of surviving the passage through a black hole.
I know I'm a bit late to the party here, but Hamilton has some excellent placement in the last few years (love the brand, anyway). Your mention of "Interstellar" prompted me to think of another watch worn in space - the Hamilton Khaki Belowzero, as donned by Damon in "The Martian."
Hallo Jody, To answer your question, I would buy the Laco in a heartbeat, the true Flieger Armbanduhr. I don't think the Miyota movement that bad. It is a lot cheaper if you have to get a service for the watch! Thanks and definitely see you in the next one!
The Aachen, despite the movement, is better made and the blue dial version is very dazzling. Plus the Laco leather strap is pure quality. Also it’s a genuine talking point whereas the others are not. So the Laco for me.
Just picked up their 39mm bronze b-uhr dial flieger. Has the NH35 movement in it. Love this piece to death! The lume is outrageous, and at 20mm lug width, it's a strap monster for sure!
I messed about with budget fliegers for a while, thinking I was smarter than I actually was when hunting a savvy purchase. In the end, I killed the whole runaround dead by doing one thing - I bit the bullet, saved my money, had a bit more patience and I put down the extra cash to buy a LACO Leipzig with ETA handwinding, anodized case, historical markings, thermally blued hands, historical lugs and PROPER lume patterns. If you want the feel of a Type B, that San Martin is OK but you will flip it eventually as it has niggles and no provenance (and the numerals for the minutes are slightly too elongated and not in proportion to the original dial design - for example, the "20" and "40" should not be brushing up on those hour markers). Also, the reason the seconds hand is not lumed on this watch as the historical models were is because the extra weight of the paint needed to match the brightness of the other hands and the dial causes problems for the sweep of the second hand. Companies on a budget looking to cut costs overcome this with faux-lume hands or in San Martin's case, avoid it altogether. If you genuinely want a replica watch ( and if you're interested in fleigers there is as good chance you care about the history), you have to go LACO or STOWA (Laco for historical accuracy and Stowa if you want something with some more modern touches) or IWC (if you are a stockbroker from Frankfurt). There's just no budget option if you are SERIOUS about German fleigers and that INCLUDES the budget Lacos (avoid the Aachen - the non hacking will kill you). Believe me, I've looked and every budget model has a drawback or two (or three).
Nice choice! I wonder if the new Aachens will get the upgraded Miyotas with hacking now? I loved the Stowa 6498 I reviewed earlier this year. Should have kept it!
@@JustOneMoreWatch There is a limited edition Aachen at the moment that DOES have a lower end Miyota that has been modded by Laco for hacking. It has a sunburst light brown dial. Available at the moment (Sept 2019) they call it the "Aachen Taupe" (so for fleiger purists, their mileage will vary). So the question is - "Why doesn't LACO offer hacking as standard for all their watches, limited or no?". I think the answer is they want to draw more people towards the mid-range watches with Swiss movements, so gave their budget end models less features.
This watch has since been updated to a wearable 39mm and now a lumed second-hand domed sapphire crystal and either an SW-200 pt-5000 or nh35 mov all with nuclear Swiss C3 for about $270 AUD! Not all of us want the real deal or need the history which mind you I do love! I just want a nice watch that works looks decent and functions well! I must admit I am saving for a Stowa Flieger atm so many be I'm just a hypocrite lol
I really like it. And I think you framed it pretty nicely, there's some interesting competition in that price range, all three of those watches have different trade offs. The San Martin looks like the best spec wise, but I still find it a little hard to drop that much on a Chinese homage. I've been seriously considering some of their NH35 fliegers that are similar to this but at $200 it's a little easier to swallow.
Hey Dave! I'm really enjoying the flieger-as-daily at the moment. Not really worn one all that much before. So go for it, find a cheapo and have a look at one. Cheers!
I’ve never been a flieger fan at all. Seeing this one, I would actually purchase it. Love the lume and exhibition case back. Crown is great and it is made for changing out straps. Nice one.
Great job, Jody! That intro just goes to show how major Hugo's influence has been on the watch community... lol TGV? Who's that? Oooohhhhh-- isn't he that guy who plays Hugo's sidekick in all those watch videos? 😆
Glad you got to review this one. I had requested a similar one(bronze 39mm case) a few times a while ago and you mentioned that they hadn't gotten back to you on a review for it. Glad you are now on San Martin's radar.
Decisions decisions. I'm wearing my type A from Courget. Love it. I'm looking at type B now but this vid raises the issue of reissue verses homage. San Martin have the design right and a Swiss movement. Lacco have the design but a Japanese movement at a German price. The Chinese pilots watch is the same as it was then therefore the most authentic. Personally I'd consider the San Martin. The Lacco is self homage and the China has it's own fans. I'll probably go with the Heimdalrr type B with the Seiko movement at $129.
Tisell makes both Type A and B flieger both with Miyota 90s5 regulated movements, sapphire, blued hands, BGW9 lume, and white seconds hand. All for $209 with free shipping!
You should have a look at the Escapement Time fliegers. They're a new chinese brand offering an NH35 mechanism for $125 AUD. I love mine, but I have to admit that the stem sometimes falls out. Otherwise it's perfect
Great video. My second favorite watch in my collection is an ISLANDER type B Flieger. Love the readability, the history, and the looks. Mine was less than $200 as well. Great review.
I own an Islander ISL110 type B and I just love it. Love the minutes on the outside of the hours. I do wish I had the more costly Swiss movement inside but other than that, it is a great watch at $199 USD each. Thanks for a great video. Mark in Springfield, MO.
I have a Laco Aachen 38mm and you’re right the movement is not the best... nicest pet peeve, non hacking!! Always a couple seconds off at the end of the day!
If I could switch out the movement in the Laco to something swiss I'd choose that one. Or, if I could switch out the dial for the seagull, I'd choose that one. Something about the dial on the San Martin is just off, maybe I'd switch out the dial! Keep up the great work!
The 2021 new Steeldive type B SD1940…..200m water resistance, screw down crown, sapphire crystal, solid endlink, as bright lume as the San Martin, solid oyster style bracelet……for $95. Seiko NH35a, 39mm case and 20mm lugs width…..winner to me, just bought 2.
Wish the second hand was more legible. I do like the flieger style watches though. Very easy to read for someone new to watches. Loved the homage. Great video, as usual!
I decided on the type-B flieger from Escapement Time (Seiko movement). Its second hand is lumed (blue!) and the figures in the inner circle are a touch bigger that the San Martin under review, which are a little too small to my taste. At $99 that one's unbeatable.
Too funny! Tell Hugo's cousin hi for me. I recently picked up one of these from Long Island Watch, I love Fliegers... I got the A dial, the B Dial and now I'm looking for a C or type 20 dial.
I bought the San Martin in bronze. Love it. The leather is nice and the weight is also nice. I am a sucker for bronze and my Grail Watch is the Tudor BB58. I don’t know when the Singapore AD will call but in the meantime. The SM in bronze does very nicely indeed.
Let's not forget that you'd get a Stowa Verus with basic ETA about 600 USD and 800 USD with high grade ETA...made in Germany on the dial by an original WW2 Fliegeruhr producer. So they're not expensiv enough to justify a Chinese version
I purchased the 1963 and I love it. I think the history of the laco brand would sway me to that watch, but this is a beauty for sure, definitely worth the price tag.
There's also the Tisell one with the miyota 9015 in it and the Heimdallr one powered by an NH35. There's definitely something for everyone who wants this style of watch.
I have a SM brass case B-dial 40mm with Seiko movement and several laco A an B dial stainless. The SM is awesome. I have experienced nothing superior from the laco. From a practicality perspective I like the A dial better, but that has nothing todo with the watch quality and value. I put my zelos brown leather strap on the SM bronze b style and it’s a home-run. The sterile dial regardless of type A or B ... is the way to go. Super clean. Functional and looks great.
Great review as always. I went slightly crazy earlier this year and got Steinhart's Nav B-Uhr 47 Titan B-Type Central Second. I wanted something even closer to the actual size used in WWII. Beautiful movement. Can't decide if I bit off more than my wrist can chew on the size. Certainly stands out when wearing it.
I've been thoroughly enjoying my San Martin radiomir homages. Decent movement(s) (at least the swiss ones), good build, good dials/hands, 40mm sizing with 200m WR (which even panerai don't offer)... Imo these things are awesome.
Thanks for a nice review as usual. The important thing to me is what do I look at on my wrist and what do I want? In your video, that translates to brand name, difficult to look at seconds hand, Chrono complication. Your choice, simply.
My daily is the type-A inspired Fortis Flieger Professional, which has the 2824, orange second hand and the ever practical day date also. More expensive as a genuine Swiss watch, but better too.
Jody, you have a knack for timely reviewing watches that I am looking at purchasing! I had just bought a Combat Sub a couple of weeks ago, then you reviewed it, now I’m looking at this one and here’s the review! Thank you!
I know it's a "pilot's" watch. But I always thought these "Type B's" resemble a classic car speedometer or tachometer dial gauge. So with that, I envision it would look great on a striped NATO strap, nudging it even closer to that classic racecar driver vibe. And you are spot-on picking this over that "German made" and that proper "Chinese 1963 reissue" watch. I know the 1963 reissue pilots watch is their "home-grown" authentic pilots watch used by their pilots but I just can't get over having Chinese characters on my watch face... It is just a deal breaker for me. P.S. I love your on-going search for the "Best bang for your buck" watch. I have been introduced to SO many Chinese manufacturers, that arguably offer the best VALUE in the watch industry, that I would of never heard of otherwise... Keep 'em coming!
I like slightly smaller watches. For me the perfect flieger is Stowa Flieger Klassik 36 which is a type A flieger. You can have it in both manual and auto. And dimensions... They`re stunning!
I went on a quest to find my ultimate Flieger Type B with the following criteria: 42 mm, sterile dial, sapphire crystal, real blued hands, SS case back and preferably an ETA hand-wound movement. I found exactly that in the Dekla Type B and it's made in Germany. Price is $378 Euro (without VAT) or around $415 USD. I'd say it's become my main "go-to" piece for day in, day out wear due to it's legibility, ruggedness and overall versatility. I just love the thing...you should check them out.
This is the very definition of a first world problem (or "conundrum"). My target watch for this is the Stowa Flieger Classic Baumuster B. A tad small to be historically accurate, but much more practical for our world. By the way, fleigers were design to be attached to the outside of bomber jackets forearm; not worn on the wrist.
Very good Hellooow as usual! I like more the look of Laco... only if swapping its engine with this one of Conundrom was possible, but nothing is perfect.
I chose the San Martin pilot bronze with the A dial. Simple works best for me. It`s on my wrist now, on a Benchmarks Basics full grain leather strap in dark brown. Just right for me.
Definitely love fliegers. I think other than Sub-ish watches, I have more fliegers than anything else. Types A and B and derivatives. I have Steeldives/Addiesdives, a cheaper Laco, a Junkers and Aeromatic and some of the Seiko SNKs are flieger-ish or flieger inspired. No 45mm versions but I have 39s, 40s and 42s and the Seikos are 37/38. For the longest time, the tan/beige Seiko SNK803 on an olive/green NATO was probably my most worn work/everyday watch but for the last year, I think my #1 is a sterile Type B from Steeldive. 39mm. I've worn it on a few straps but I usually go back to the stock bracelet. Also have a Type A from Addiesdive that I wear on a thin brown leather Zulu. I just can't get over how nice these are for the $$$. I know we sound like broken records but it's really ridiculous. Love those blued hands on the San Martin. I'd love to get one of the 'worn' Laco Mülheim an der Ruhr Erbstück watches... 39mm handwind Type B dial if you're wanting to send a gift my way.
If I wanted a flieger, Id go for Tisell 40mm type A for cca 200 coins. If you want to try something different with the strap, try sailcloth for more modern look or mesh bracelet, that looks good on pretty much everything.
Love that lume shot! I used to own an Aristo 3H80 (B type Flieger) and it's one of those designs that I loved but eventually fell out of love with. Still glad I owned one though.
I built one with a clone eta 6497. It cost me all in about £80. I really enjoyed building it and it has a second hand at the 9 position which I think makes it even better. Not sure why these things are so expensive off the shelf
I purchased the "A" type that you suggested in your Chinese specials on Ali - the one with the hand wound movement and it is running within COSC - shame the lume is so poor as the only feedback and the strap that came with it wasnt special. I switched the strap out for one from watch gecko. But within COSC from a Chinese special is amazing
I couldn’t wear this watch. Way too big for my skinny 16 cm wrists. But I do own the 1963 Seagull. Which is an amazing watch. I love it. So that would get my vote here. Unfortunately, I’m super clumsy when it comes to watches, so I had to go with the sapphire Chrystal version or it would be scratched like crazy.
Check out the Geckota K-01 line of fliegers. ETA-2824 at 40mm, for under 500 USD. I have the Type A with a blue sunburst dial, and am impressed by finishing, build quality and their overall quality control.
Hopefully it will cause TGV to go full Scottish helllooo at the start of his video and wear funny t-shirt. This need to turn into full TH-cam watch reviewing war for more entertainment.
Mate! I'll send him the shirt if he'll wear it! 😂
That would be hilarious.
@@JustOneMoreWatch But if he were to demand that you wear Lacoste and review travel bags, that would be a bridge too far!
@TheMozzaok Closer to the first than the second, so far as I can tell. He has a genuine love and knowledge of watches, and so much is forgivable.
6 months down the line - didn't happen. Too bad.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 surely this is a copyright infringement!
White gloves, and we have an open and shut case, Gov'nah!
TGV just had an aneurysm.
Hugo's cousin
In the WWE? I’ve heard it referred to as “Gimmick Infringement” 😆
Nah, far from it: This is just an homage, and a perfectly made one I feel myself being obliged to notice, my dear old chap ;)
Jody, you got me again with this one 😂
Thanks ever so much for a grand start into my day!
That intro just makes me want a TGV-JOMW crossover special lol
Seriously!
...more like a 'celibrity death match'-style. Can See them in clay already ;)
please no TGV is a rat i avoid his shitty content at all cost
kevinfrancais SFKK Archie’s second account?
Can’t match against Hugo lol. But I like it. TGV has that voice though loo
Thought I had clicked a TGV video for a sec, rather confused
Frightfully confusing
Ahah it was the same for me. I had to click of to check I had click on the JOMW video.
i was about to comment the same thing.
Yep lol. Unsubbbed from him some time ago. Just a bit too slimy and self important for my liking.
@@Sillybollox1966 what do you mean?
My type B flieger is the Hamilton Pro Pilot Day Date, otherwise known as the “Interstellar”.
It has the heritage of being worn in another galaxy and the durability of surviving the passage through a black hole.
Maybe it will pass into a dimension where we are all wearing Hamiltons! Lol
The Interstellar is my go-to daily as well. I love it!
I know I'm a bit late to the party here, but Hamilton has some excellent placement in the last few years (love the brand, anyway). Your mention of "Interstellar" prompted me to think of another watch worn in space - the Hamilton Khaki Belowzero, as donned by Damon in "The Martian."
Hallo Jody,
To answer your question, I would buy the Laco in a heartbeat, the true Flieger Armbanduhr.
I don't think the Miyota movement that bad. It is a lot cheaper if you have to get a service for the watch!
Thanks and definitely see you in the next one!
The Aachen, despite the movement, is better made and the blue dial version is very dazzling. Plus the Laco leather strap is pure quality. Also it’s a genuine talking point whereas the others are not. So the Laco for me.
Ah, a proper review to get my fix! Love the intro by the way. Keep up the great work, Jody!
I love B type dials! Their legibility is very appealing
I'm a fan of B dials too - My Seiko 5 actually got me started into thinking about getting a B dial flieger at some later point in time.
@@cldream yeah that Seiko 5 flieger is a great way to get into fliegers! Get a Laco or Stowa since they have actual military heritage
Type B is cool when the watch is big. The Seiko little small for me, type A fits smaller case more.
Just picked up their 39mm bronze b-uhr dial flieger. Has the NH35 movement in it. Love this piece to death! The lume is outrageous, and at 20mm lug width, it's a strap monster for sure!
I messed about with budget fliegers for a while, thinking I was smarter than I actually was when hunting a savvy purchase. In the end, I killed the whole runaround dead by doing one thing - I bit the bullet, saved my money, had a bit more patience and I put down the extra cash to buy a LACO Leipzig with ETA handwinding, anodized case, historical markings, thermally blued hands, historical lugs and PROPER lume patterns. If you want the feel of a Type B, that San Martin is OK but you will flip it eventually as it has niggles and no provenance (and the numerals for the minutes are slightly too elongated and not in proportion to the original dial design - for example, the "20" and "40" should not be brushing up on those hour markers).
Also, the reason the seconds hand is not lumed on this watch as the historical models were is because the extra weight of the paint needed to match the brightness of the other hands and the dial causes problems for the sweep of the second hand. Companies on a budget looking to cut costs overcome this with faux-lume hands or in San Martin's case, avoid it altogether.
If you genuinely want a replica watch ( and if you're interested in fleigers there is as good chance you care about the history), you have to go LACO or STOWA (Laco for historical accuracy and Stowa if you want something with some more modern touches) or IWC (if you are a stockbroker from Frankfurt). There's just no budget option if you are SERIOUS about German fleigers and that INCLUDES the budget Lacos (avoid the Aachen - the non hacking will kill you). Believe me, I've looked and every budget model has a drawback or two (or three).
Nice choice! I wonder if the new Aachens will get the upgraded Miyotas with hacking now? I loved the Stowa 6498 I reviewed earlier this year. Should have kept it!
@@JustOneMoreWatch There is a limited edition Aachen at the moment that DOES have a lower end Miyota that has been modded by Laco for hacking. It has a sunburst light brown dial. Available at the moment (Sept 2019) they call it the "Aachen Taupe" (so for fleiger purists, their mileage will vary). So the question is - "Why doesn't LACO offer hacking as standard for all their watches, limited or no?". I think the answer is they want to draw more people towards the mid-range watches with Swiss movements, so gave their budget end models less features.
Earthen Jadis “Stockbroker from Frankfurt.” Hilarious!
This watch has since been updated to a wearable 39mm and now a lumed second-hand domed sapphire crystal and either an SW-200 pt-5000 or nh35 mov all with nuclear Swiss C3 for about $270 AUD! Not all of us want the real deal or need the history which mind you I do love! I just want a nice watch that works looks decent and functions well! I must admit I am saving for a Stowa Flieger atm so many be I'm just a hypocrite lol
@@earthenjadis8199 I purchased my 42 Aachen in August 2020...... I believe they now all hack.. (Mine does)
I was genuinely not expecting that intro hahah! I have re-watched it several times!
Type B’s are my favorite, ever since I got my seiko version. I really like the larger minutes. Thank you for sharing these
I really like it. And I think you framed it pretty nicely, there's some interesting competition in that price range, all three of those watches have different trade offs. The San Martin looks like the best spec wise, but I still find it a little hard to drop that much on a Chinese homage. I've been seriously considering some of their NH35 fliegers that are similar to this but at $200 it's a little easier to swallow.
Hey Dave! I'm really enjoying the flieger-as-daily at the moment. Not really worn one all that much before. So go for it, find a cheapo and have a look at one. Cheers!
Hked 1963 is the Seagull pilot's watch I'd go for. Maybe I'm a bit biased with my 5.8" wrist😉
Interesting choice. I reviewed the EMG 42mm version of the same thing. Great watches!
I had to watch that intro twice! 😂 Definitely want a JOMW and TGV crossover show now.
P.S. Now I want a Flieger 🤦🏻♂️
I’ve never been a flieger fan at all. Seeing this one, I would actually purchase it. Love the lume and exhibition case back. Crown is great and it is made for changing out straps. Nice one.
For $100 (CDN) more I got a Laco Aachen, one of the original German makers of the Flieger watch. Tons of history!
You beat me to it. I was coming down here to post "why not a Laco Aachen?" 😂
Glen Blakley......Great minds think alike!!,
Where can I get a Laco Aachen for that?
Long Island has a few of them for $410.
ohboyitsmee...Got mine on Ebay. There’s one for $389.99 US now...
I just spit my drink all over my computer screen over that intro. LOL
Great job, Jody! That intro just goes to show how major Hugo's influence has been on the watch community... lol
TGV? Who's that?
Oooohhhhh-- isn't he that guy who plays Hugo's sidekick in all those watch videos? 😆
Hugo is a blatant rip-off of a character that Minitwatch created. So he's not influential at all.
I've had my eye on the Seagull for a while now. That view through the case back gets me every time!
The joy of a Timefactors Speedbird is that it's got all the legibility of a Flieger without the whiff of Hermann Göring.
Thanks to this channel I now wear a Vostok 24 hour watch now and love it.
the Seagull every time. I think its a perfect size. More understated than the others. Surely it's only less practical if you are a WW2 pilot?
Glad you got to review this one. I had requested a similar one(bronze 39mm case) a few times a while ago and you mentioned that they hadn't gotten back to you on a review for it. Glad you are now on San Martin's radar.
The Laco Aachen 42. Great review as usual. 👍
Decisions decisions. I'm wearing my type A from Courget. Love it. I'm looking at type B now but this vid raises the issue of reissue verses homage. San Martin have the design right and a Swiss movement. Lacco have the design but a Japanese movement at a German price. The Chinese pilots watch is the same as it was then therefore the most authentic. Personally I'd consider the San Martin. The Lacco is self homage and the China has it's own fans. I'll probably go with the Heimdalrr type B with the Seiko movement at $129.
Tisell makes both Type A and B flieger both with Miyota 90s5 regulated movements, sapphire, blued hands, BGW9 lume, and white seconds hand. All for $209 with free shipping!
I think the San Martin takes the cake. I saw it on the jub on your Instagram. I think it's an absolute stunner.
You should have a look at the Escapement Time fliegers. They're a new chinese brand offering an NH35 mechanism for $125 AUD. I love mine, but I have to admit that the stem sometimes falls out. Otherwise it's perfect
I got one as well...ur stem falls completely out????
Heh, love the jab at TGV's "let's play with a plastic dinosaur" bit.
It was a compliment. Knucklehead
I enjoy the urban gentry videos but I always have to skip the first 2 mins of the videos to bypass the 'hilarious' dinosaur scene.
Christopher Houghton It’s kind of silly,but I like them. I also like it when he shows Ernest the dog.Do you ever watch Archie luxury?
Great video. My second favorite watch in my collection is an ISLANDER type B Flieger. Love the readability, the history, and the looks. Mine was less than $200 as well. Great review.
I own an Islander ISL110 type B and I just love it. Love the minutes on the outside of the hours. I do wish I had the more costly Swiss movement inside but other than that, it is a great watch at $199 USD each. Thanks for a great video. Mark in Springfield, MO.
OMG...that opening...too awesome...too funny!! I had to watch it twice
I have a Laco Aachen 38mm and you’re right the movement is not the best... nicest pet peeve, non hacking!! Always a couple seconds off at the end of the day!
A lume dot on the end of the second hand would good.
😂 I’ve restarted the video 4 times because I keep laughing at that intro!
Miyota is not a poor movement its a very good workhorse movement and if regulated correctly very accurate.
great video thank you.
I just ordered a Type B from Marc at Long Island Watch. It’s NH35, sapphire,42mm case 22mm lug, 100mWR screw down crown, and under $200!
Nice one! Recently purchased a Citizen Avion lovely type B . as to your Question i think i like SAN MARTIN myself.
If I could switch out the movement in the Laco to something swiss I'd choose that one. Or, if I could switch out the dial for the seagull, I'd choose that one. Something about the dial on the San Martin is just off, maybe I'd switch out the dial! Keep up the great work!
The 2021 new Steeldive type B SD1940…..200m water resistance, screw down crown, sapphire crystal, solid endlink, as bright lume as the San Martin, solid oyster style bracelet……for $95. Seiko NH35a, 39mm case and 20mm lugs width…..winner to me, just bought 2.
Wish the second hand was more legible. I do like the flieger style watches though. Very easy to read for someone new to watches. Loved the homage. Great video, as usual!
I decided on the type-B flieger from Escapement Time (Seiko movement). Its second hand is lumed (blue!) and the figures in the inner circle are a touch bigger that the San Martin under review, which are a little too small to my taste. At $99 that one's unbeatable.
Where ?
Wow,that new strap is so 70,s! Love it.Cheers.
Too funny! Tell Hugo's cousin hi for me. I recently picked up one of these from Long Island Watch, I love Fliegers... I got the A dial, the B Dial and now I'm looking for a C or type 20 dial.
I bought the San Martin in bronze. Love it. The leather is nice and the weight is also nice.
I am a sucker for bronze and my Grail Watch is the Tudor BB58. I don’t know when the Singapore AD will call but in the meantime. The SM in bronze does very nicely indeed.
I have both the Seagull 1963 and a Laco Paderborn. Like the Seagull, love the Paderborn.
Let's not forget that you'd get a Stowa Verus with basic ETA about 600 USD and 800 USD with high grade ETA...made in Germany on the dial by an original WW2 Fliegeruhr producer. So they're not expensiv enough to justify a Chinese version
I purchased the 1963 and I love it. I think the history of the laco brand would sway me to that watch, but this is a beauty for sure, definitely worth the price tag.
There's also the Tisell one with the miyota 9015 in it and the Heimdallr one powered by an NH35. There's definitely something for everyone who wants this style of watch.
I have a SM brass case B-dial 40mm with Seiko movement and several laco A an B dial stainless. The SM is awesome. I have experienced nothing superior from the laco. From a practicality perspective I like the A dial better, but that has nothing todo with the watch quality and value. I put my zelos brown leather strap on the SM bronze b style and it’s a home-run. The sterile dial regardless of type A or B ... is the way to go. Super clean. Functional and looks great.
I just picked up a Tisell Type B with what they say are true blued hands, sapphire and a 9015 movement for $209. Love a good type B.
Love my Geckota K1 from watch gecko similar price, but closer to IWC and a but more refined case/handset for similar $
The Laco Aachen 42 is my next watch.
Great review as always. I went slightly crazy earlier this year and got Steinhart's Nav B-Uhr 47 Titan B-Type Central Second. I wanted something even closer to the actual size used in WWII. Beautiful movement. Can't decide if I bit off more than my wrist can chew on the size. Certainly stands out when wearing it.
I'd take the Seagull, tons of character in that retro dial.
Just when I thought you were getting into a rut! What an AWESOME intro Jody, looking forward to a next one.
I've been thoroughly enjoying my San Martin radiomir homages. Decent movement(s) (at least the swiss ones), good build, good dials/hands, 40mm sizing with 200m WR (which even panerai don't offer)... Imo these things are awesome.
Fliegers look particularly good on Nato straps, it will also improve the wearability of the larger size.
Thanks for a nice review as usual. The important thing to me is what do I look at on my wrist and what do I want? In your video, that translates to brand name, difficult to look at seconds hand, Chrono complication. Your choice, simply.
My daily is the type-A inspired Fortis Flieger Professional, which has the 2824, orange second hand and the ever practical day date also. More expensive as a genuine Swiss watch, but better too.
The case is really nice. I think the strap looks good but your alternate strap looks good, too.
Nicely made and a good movement but It would have to be a laco for me(blue dial) but I can definitely see the appeal. Very funny intro 😁
Jody, you have a knack for timely reviewing watches that I am looking at purchasing! I had just bought a Combat Sub a couple of weeks ago, then you reviewed it, now I’m looking at this one and here’s the review! Thank you!
I actually love this watch! My only gripe would be there is no day date function, but I could live without that. Beautiful piece :)
I have a San Martín typeB flieger in bronze in 39mm with a YN-55 movement and I love it! £130!
BRAVO!!!!! Loved the intro so much I played it several times over.
I know it's a "pilot's" watch. But I always thought these "Type B's" resemble a classic car speedometer or tachometer dial gauge. So with that, I envision it would look great on a striped NATO strap, nudging it even closer to that classic racecar driver vibe. And you are spot-on picking this over that "German made" and that proper "Chinese 1963 reissue" watch. I know the 1963 reissue pilots watch is their "home-grown" authentic pilots watch used by their pilots but I just can't get over having Chinese characters on my watch face... It is just a deal breaker for me.
P.S. I love your on-going search for the "Best bang for your buck" watch. I have been introduced to SO many Chinese manufacturers, that arguably offer the best VALUE in the watch industry, that I would of never heard of otherwise... Keep 'em coming!
I love the intro! The dino was perfect!
I have to return it to my 2yo nephew now ;)
I like slightly smaller watches. For me the perfect flieger is Stowa Flieger Klassik 36 which is a type A flieger. You can have it in both manual and auto. And dimensions... They`re stunning!
The miyota 821A can be an unbelievably accurate movement.
These german brands wouldn't use them if they were crappy.
Yes mate, but they are ugly and noisy. Its the noise that upsets me the most. Unidirectional, wobbly and clicky. Cheers!
@@JustOneMoreWatch ... and doen't hack.
I went on a quest to find my ultimate Flieger Type B with the following criteria: 42 mm, sterile dial, sapphire crystal, real blued hands, SS case back and preferably an ETA hand-wound movement. I found exactly that in the Dekla Type B and it's made in Germany. Price is $378 Euro (without VAT) or around $415 USD. I'd say it's become my main "go-to" piece for day in, day out wear due to it's legibility, ruggedness and overall versatility. I just love the thing...you should check them out.
482 Euros! He recently did a video on it!
This is the very definition of a first world problem (or "conundrum"). My target watch for this is the Stowa Flieger Classic Baumuster B. A tad small to be historically accurate, but much more practical for our world.
By the way, fleigers were design to be attached to the outside of bomber jackets forearm; not worn on the wrist.
Very good Hellooow as usual! I like more the look of Laco... only if swapping its engine with this one of Conundrom was possible, but nothing is perfect.
Another great video brother!
You can build your own with Parnis parts from eBay and a SeaGull ST3600 movement for less than $100. People sell them already assembled as well.
I definitely love it, I'm planning on buying myself the bronze version for New Years. The lack of branding on the dial is a great (lack of) touch.
I love the watch but a constantly visible second hand is really part of what this style watch is all about.....
I chose the San Martin pilot bronze with the A dial. Simple works best for me. It`s on my wrist now, on a Benchmarks Basics full grain leather strap in dark brown. Just right for me.
I believe I would rather have the laco
See the first 10 seconds. Immediate LIKE.
That was a nice, friendly parody
Definitely love fliegers. I think other than Sub-ish watches, I have more fliegers than anything else. Types A and B and derivatives. I have Steeldives/Addiesdives, a cheaper Laco, a Junkers and Aeromatic and some of the Seiko SNKs are flieger-ish or flieger inspired. No 45mm versions but I have 39s, 40s and 42s and the Seikos are 37/38. For the longest time, the tan/beige Seiko SNK803 on an olive/green NATO was probably my most worn work/everyday watch but for the last year, I think my #1 is a sterile Type B from Steeldive. 39mm. I've worn it on a few straps but I usually go back to the stock bracelet. Also have a Type A from Addiesdive that I wear on a thin brown leather Zulu. I just can't get over how nice these are for the $$$. I know we sound like broken records but it's really ridiculous. Love those blued hands on the San Martin. I'd love to get one of the 'worn' Laco Mülheim an der Ruhr Erbstück watches... 39mm handwind Type B dial if you're wanting to send a gift my way.
Any 40mm analogue field watch with 100m water resistance, saphire crystal with great lume is a winner in my books.
Been watching & learning from your videos for a while now, but that intro just got me to sub before it was over!
Top marks! Keep it up dude👍
Thanks mate! Welcome.
A Corgeut or parnis for value, but I enjoy my Bulova military type A dial with very accurate uhf movement.
If I wanted a flieger, Id go for Tisell 40mm type A for cca 200 coins. If you want to try something different with the strap, try sailcloth for more modern look or mesh bracelet, that looks good on pretty much everything.
Love that lume shot! I used to own an Aristo 3H80 (B type Flieger) and it's one of those designs that I loved but eventually fell out of love with. Still glad I owned one though.
I like the type II flueger design a lot! This one is cool, but I think I will go for the Laco eventually. You need a double riveted band for it!
I built one with a clone eta 6497. It cost me all in about £80. I really enjoyed building it and it has a second hand at the 9 position which I think makes it even better. Not sure why these things are so expensive off the shelf
IWC big pilot is the fleiger for me. But but a Militare National strap on yours and I’m wear it daily. Cheers!
My pick would be a Junkers Cockpit Ju 52 6140-2. Swiss Ronda quartz movement, GMT window and a 40mm diametre. It cost 149 EUR back in 2013.
Just discovered the "B-type" dial and I have to get one! In my line of work I'm bound by certain times of the day so it would fit perfectly.
I purchased the "A" type that you suggested in your Chinese specials on Ali - the one with the hand wound movement and it is running within COSC - shame the lume is so poor as the only feedback and the strap that came with it wasnt special. I switched the strap out for one from watch gecko. But within COSC from a Chinese special is amazing
🤣🤣🤣 I was wondering when you were going to do something like this. I did think it would be a Nessie though!!!’
What's up with watch channels and plastic dinosaurs? TGV, Minitwatch and now JOMW 😂
I couldn’t wear this watch. Way too big for my skinny 16 cm wrists. But I do own the 1963 Seagull. Which is an amazing watch. I love it. So that would get my vote here. Unfortunately, I’m super clumsy when it comes to watches, so I had to go with the sapphire Chrystal version or it would be scratched like crazy.
Intro faked us out. Well played. I think the watch is a winner. I have been pretty impressed with San Martin quality and their prices.
Check out the Geckota K-01 line of fliegers. ETA-2824 at 40mm, for under 500 USD. I have the Type A with a blue sunburst dial, and am impressed by finishing, build quality and their overall quality control.
Gonna get the San Martin ..the sw200 and the lume at 42mm..perfect. Will be my 3rd San Martin