The Best Flieger Under $500?
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I love a flieger, and this one is really rather good for the money. Spec it your way, built to order, hand finished, Made in Germany, classic looks, less than $500USD? Obviously it doesn't have the lineage of a Stowa or a Laco, but how much is that worth to you? Double? It makes a very strong case for itself and I'm keen to sample something else from the company. Cheers, Jody
If you order after July 1 the german VAT is reduced from 19% to 16%, so you can save a little by waiting.
That's a spectacular service information for a Dane! (25% here).
you are a saint
Don't expect too much, most of the profit will be taken by the dealer, experts say that you might save 2%
Irrelevant for UK/USA buyers as we are not in the EU, but thanks.
Jody: Hello!
Me: SOLD
The misalignment of the studs compared to the stitching on one side of the strap would drive me crazy.
This could be the watch I have been waiting for. Well done Dekla, and thanks for the video.
If you're looking for a flieger, that's a pretty darn difficult watch to pass over!! Made in Germany, Swiss movement, thermally blued hands, domed sapphire, choices galore... I think they've hit the nail on the head with this one!
Edit: And the strap dimension change is 100% perfect.
You basically summarized the video instead of leaving a comment lol
@@martinc.720 I'm considering starting a new watch enthusiast's blog where instead of creating my own content, I just summarise JOMW's videos... think it'll take off?? 😂
... Perhaps with the hearing impaired?😁
Who am I kidding, Jody's Scottish accented "Helllooooo!" is 95% the success of this channel!
I just received my Dekla flieger (type A) few days ago. Stunning watch, well finished. And the movement (eta 2801 manual winding) is very accurate: -1s/day!
Wow that's really good
i just bought type b 44" but i have doubts jajajaja do you still use this watch?
@@EARP87 yes, I still use it
After a year, how do you find it? :)
After over a year, I still find it a stunning watch. Accurate and beautiful. I would buy it again.
That case back cracks me up... that is possibly the most German caseback ever. Here's the brand, your spec, nice legible columns no frills, just here ya go!
The proper blued hands do it for me.
You are right, I wasnt expecting that at $500
You can hardly tell it's got blued hands against that black dial
@@MyAlan999 yeah the light has to be right. But when it is it looks much better than paint.
Anthony Coates - can’t believe someone else noticed that! 👍🏼 me too!
Nice to see more Dekla videos on TH-cam. Thanks for the review!
I have the bronze Type A San Martin with the blue sunburst dial, sub seconds at 6, the price was a high priority for me but I happened to think this was the most beautiful version I'd seen & that was good enough for me. It's a stunning bit of kit, I'm very happy.
I'm very tempted! Especially since I love the look of the blue dial with the old radium style lume! It's also at a price where I feel comfortable trying it out to see if I want the Laco eventually.
Lovely looking watch! I agree definitely need to get a Flieger in the collection 🤙🏻
Wow, I had not heard of this brand. I honestly find this more appealing than spending $1K on a (admittedly beautiful) Stova or saving and getting a Miyota movement Laco. I love all the customization options too. Thanks for letting us know about this one.
That is a stunner. Really like the looks of this one. I will add this to the list.
Thanks Jodi.
Im all over their website like a rash now 😂 i've fallen in love with them! I cant belive how different they look when you change the strap colour! I want one 😂
I love the German Fliegers, and this Dekla certainly is appealing. I own a Laco, which I bought from Mark at LIW on Black Friday sale, and I always appreciate the heritage that it brings, albeit with a Japanese Miyota movement. Stowa and IWC are my grail Fliegers but far beyond my affordability, so Laco hits the spot for me.
Love the watch, thanks for another great informative video
Thanks for the recommendation! Bought two, one for me and one for my son. We did a "Guys" trip to Germany last year, and looked at watches while there but didn't find anything that felt quite right. These are great. They took a couple months to arrive, but it was well worth the wait.
Thank you for a great review Jody - another option is Stowa occasionally has sales - this week they had the Flieger Classic 40 for ~$500
Last year I picked up the Aristo 3H80 type B German made Ronda movement flieger from Mark at Longislandwatch (about $135) and I am happy with it. Next flieger for me will be either the Citizen Nighthawk or the Seiko Flightmaster. After that I may consider a Stowa or Messerschmitt or a Laco - although this may be gorgeous replacement for those options. If I want a traditional flieger I would want a German one for the lineage.
Excellent review, I hope they take your feedback about the sharp spots. That said I love what Dekla are doing here.
Love it and the price is great! Display caseback is my preference though
I own a couple of flieger watches and for my tastes you really want one a bit larger than 40mm unless you have a very small wrist. I just don’t think they look right at 40mm. The originals were a whopping 55mm. While that size is totally impractical for anyone not wearing one over your flight jacket, I do think they need to be a bit larger than you otherwise might wear. Mine are 43 and 44. Of the two I own one is an auto and the other hand wind. Of the two I enjoy the hand wind much better. Again the originals had hand winding movements so it just gets you a bit closer to the original and such a big crown just begs for a hand wind movement. The Dekla just seems to be an amazing watch for the price as they aren’t much more expensive than the Chinese ones and you get a lot more plus customization.
This is what I kept telling people about.
Instead, most will want a Flieger that is 40mm or even 36mm.😅
A Flieger less than 40mm, or 39mm is called a “dress watch”. 😅😅😅
We can consider 38mm but 38mm is the Dirty Dozen size. So really, getting a less than 39mm Flieger is just a dress watch, or call it a Bauhaus if you will. 😊
Really authentic looking watch! I was seriously considering on of the Laco’s or Stowa. For this price I think I’d go this way. Nice watch!
same here mate
I'm really impressed by value proposition this watch represents over Laco and Stowa. Thanks for sharing!
Great review as always, I like Flieger's a lot but have not picked one up yet will think about this one
Dekla is great value for the money. I've had my 42 mm Type B Old Radium for about a year and it's still my "go-to" daily. For a Flieger, it's more about hitting all the design marks and specs rather than what you can add to an already established design and they do get a lot right. It's rugged, super legible, accurate...and those thermally blued hands. I also went for the FL23883 engraving because if you're gonna go Flieger, might as well go full Flieger. Nice review!
After I saw this review, I bought this watch 42mm. And it finally was delivered it today. I am satisfied for quality. I want to say thank you for your recommendation.
Perfect! Always fancied a flieger. Sweet spot for size, price and value for me.
Very nice flieger. I have a Geckota flieger and it is very nicely finished with a ETA-2824. Only two dial types and on case size so this Dekla is a good all around option. I like shorter L2L too!
Good review. The badly placed rivets on the buckle side of the strap would bother me. It shouldn't have made it past QC.
This looks great. Thermally blued hands. Many custom options. Swiss movement. 20mm lugs/strap. What's not to like? I have smaller wrists and like smaller watches especially ones that are all dial as I think those look larger on wrist. Think this might look like a plate on mine. I'm tempted by this nonetheless.
Archimede is an excellent choice for a German flieger, as well. The Ickler cases are absolute top notch. Impressed that DEKLA got the lume pattern correct from the original 55mm iterations from the 1930s.
I have several Archimede watches. They're beautifully made, but their flieger, while very nice, cannot be ordered without the "Archimede" name on the dial. This is just not right for a flieger, and kills the deal for me.
@@scottparis6355You can get their pilot watch without their logo
Interesting. Thank you. I have an Archimede flieger. You might ask why ... well, I thought their modern interpretation of the flieger looked better than the affordable ones from Laco and Stowa and I wanted a watch I could use to tell the time with ease. I ditched the (nice) original strap for a good mesh. Perfect.
Had Dekla been on my radar (he heheh) I would have seriously considered one. Their blue dial variants look great - and the thermally blued hands do too.
To anyone considering a flieger - get the thermally blued hands. You will enjoy them. Really.
And I just got an A dail.... Many thanks for the tip!
I am trying to reduce my collection, but only manage to add watches after watching your videos :D
I am very impressed with their watch offerings, they have also really nice Panerai military look-alike watch as well.
Looks like I found my next Flieger watch :D I think Dekla has a great mix of good price and quality.
Hello Jody.
That was not at all half bad with all the options, love the blued hands.
Now, as I am in Sweden it feels almost like a roadtrip over the weekend to pick one up in Germany.
Maybe not due to budget restraints.
Never been too crazy about flieger watches, but if I had to pick one this would be it. Their website and choices are very good. But what really caught my eye is their "Tactical" watches...very nice! Thanks for introducing a brand I wasn't aware of...and another great vid!!
I just pulled the trigger on the Laco, 39mm basic pilot watch. I chose because of price, it's just going to be a weekday/work watch. I love the ease of reading the dial, i hoping the lume impresses me.
You do a great job mate. Keep it up!
Thanks mate!
Just got one ! Thank you!
Gorgeous watch. Thank you 🙏
Good review. The Stowa has been on the list for a while and I'd have to think about the movement provided in any alternative, but this looks good, especially at 40mm with a 20mm strap.
I love the look of these Jody!!! There is soooooooo much dial though!!!! Looks too big on my wrist I reckon! Love the beadblasted case!!! The crown is sweet to!!!!! I have a Hammy Cooper I just don’t wear because it’s big!!, reality it’s not but looks it!;) I like the Laco39 . Great video !!
Very nice, Jody! If I ever decide to go flieger, I know where I’m going to get it.
Great review Jody 👍 !
Where’s my Cronos gang at! Shoutout from the Isle of Man in the UK 🇬🇧
All my Fliegers and Glycine Airmans have 22mm lug widths. Also the Laco, while not as customisable, offers models in two diameters as well as A and B dials for 410 USD each list.
I do love Fliegers. Especially the Type-B dial style. Even though this is cheaper than other Fliegers it's still a bit too expensive for me. So I picked up the 'Escapement Time' Flieger Type-B instead. I'm really impressed with it for the money too. Bar the movement, obviously, it's pretty similar to this one.
Too expensive for me too.
I think this is the best value watch to ve featured in your channel, Awesome
I think this is the way to go for B-uhren. Perfect balance of quality/price. If you want an actual war-time watch I would look for a 1930s Helvetia pilots watch. They did them in 41mm (and let’s face it who can carry off a 55mm original B-uhr) and they usually have a rotating bezel and those lovely war-time painted numerals that you get on old Zenith Specials but usually much cheaper.
Very nice! I’ll eventually go for a Stowa.
Great video! Which video did you do on a “44mm flieger “?
Love this watch
Great sales pitch for Dekla towards the end 👍. Nice watch. I'd be going for one of the more affordable Laco's that would more than scratch the itch. However this is certainly not a bad watch at all and I'm sure whoever gets one will enjoy
Love it. Getting one
Nice video, great number of choices, blue hands, nice Lume of even numbers. I'm waiting for Escapement Time Flieger :)
I love type B Fleigers!! I had hoped for a Laco, but the prices keep going up, so I’m thinking this might be my answer. How good was the build? You’ve handled them all, can you tell a difference between this one and the top German brands? How large a wrist will it fit?
I still prefer the Stowa Classic Flieger no logo, no date, handwind.
They just had a sale where they sold used watches at reduced prices. I was too slow to grab one. Hella bad day
you can choose the movement and the finishes of the watch on their site.
Really nice watch, will have to try one.
Big flieger fan, sad that I sold my stowa 40mm. What I loved about that is the lumed seconds hand. That is the only thing that Dekla is missing unfortunately. I recently got the san martin 39mm pilot watch(150$ shipped) and has fantastic lume but also none on the seconds hand :(. The san martin also had those sharp point lugs tips, very annoying i had to sand it down.
Nice watch! I’d have it. I took a different direction for my flieger. I ordered a sapphire display back case, dial, thermally blued hands, crown, a decorated ETA 6497-1 movement from Switzerland (all parts)and an original pattern strap from Germany. I made it myself. It was a fun process. It’s as unique as a flieger can be and I’m pretty sure it’s better than most. It cost me about $600 but I didn’t waste money on branding and I didn’t feed the pirate/slave factories in China. Win win! This Dekla seems like a very good option for those that don’t want to take the long way around.
Where did you order from?
Mythicregard, it’s an ebay store in Arch, Switzerland. B_line55cc is the seller.
Those blued hands are amazing, looks well worth that price!
It looks like the rivets on the strap are decorative only as they don't go all the way through the strap plus on the 12 o'clock side they are misaligned which would drive a watch guy crazy.
Jodi, you need to check out Geckota's Type-B. Same specs as this (sapphire, ETA, thermally blued hands) but with a really impressively finished case and some great dial options that differentiate it from the same old matte black dials like this (I had a gorgeous sunburst grey dial version). I think it is truly the best in this range. Better scale with 20mm lugs, too.
Looks like the perfect Flieger for collectors such as myself. I couldn't justify a big 5 purchase, but this may find its way in this year.
I just bought a PT5000 powered Escapement Time Type B. Really well finished. 42mm, great lume. Just over £100… I reckon that’s possibly your best bet, even more so than the San Martin…
I think this is a great Flieger since it is made in Germany and can be customised to your liking! Might not have the historical link but has all the proper looks. Cheers
Great looking watch!
I'm will probably go with a Stowa Flieger Type B with date and hand-winding movement! This combination is something you don't see very often. But Dekla is very great value, look also at Archimede Uhren, also from Germany!.
This one would be my choice of Flieger watch. Laco was and still is my grail flieger, but this one hits the spot, for real.
I once had a Steinhart Flieger that had the same issue with rather sharp edges on the lugs. (A great watch otherwise)
Great looking classic watch. I was bummed to see that in barely over a year and a half since you posted your video that the prices are over a hundred dollars up in cost. Nice watch though, but I'm having a difficult time justifying buying one as much as I like them. Gotta give it some more thought. Thanks for the video!
Love it 👍👍👍
Today I'm rocking my Seiko SRPC85K1...... I'm loving this watch. For now.
A lovely Flieger there, Jodie.
I personally would pass and save up for the Stowa Bronze Flieger. That watch really is sensational.
Having said that the Dekla will find plenty of owners at that price/spec.
I didn't know this brand and never heard about it before your review. It seems to be very interesting.
Wow. Thank you for this review, think I found my flieger! I like that it is made in Germany, but I can live without the heritage. The hands are great!
Great Flieger. Love the visible second hand !!!
I have been looking at a Dekla for a while. I have a white dial Stowa type which is awesome
I do like the Stowa and the Laco but you're right...that is a steep mark up for those names. This is much more palatable!
Love that the second hand reaches all the way to the edge of the dial. What do you think would be a good size for this for a seven and a half wrist? One thing I didn't see mentioned: The rivets on the top part of the strap seem to be off center.
40-42mm should work.
Very nice video, as per usual. You make some very good points and it is a real quandary. I'd pay the premium for either the Stowa or Laco, though. Just my $.02. I like to support companies with heritage that are making competitive products. But you are right to highlight the price differential and others would be perfectly justified to view it differently. Horses for courses!
About that heritage...
Nice piece and especially nice to have some choices, alsmost custom-made...anyway, it is still the Laco Leipzig for me for being more historically acurate...the Dekla-case is not fully satisfying...
By the way, having only half of the indexes lumed is acurate as far as I know.
Atm there is a San Martin flieger type B with nh35 on a leather strap for 103$ after discounts which sounds pretty tempting and i might buy one. 100$ for SM is super good deal on it's own.
Jody, how do you feel about a BUND strap? I'm thinking of getting one for my AVI-8 (grey dial ) have you ever owned a BUND? Are they still in style? Would love to hear your thoughts on this. Great channel and videos.
I’m between this, the Laco Aachen, or a San Martin. This Dekla is a serious contender!
For the price, you can't beat it! I like my laco, but for 500 euros you can't beat it!
Really nice watch!
Gorgeous watch. I'd buy the cheaper Laco Basic Bielefield with the longer power reserve movement option though.
You should check out steeldive fliger from aliexpress. I paid for mine about 85 dollars on sale. With steeldive you get 39 mm case, 200m water resist, good lume, NH35 and sapphire with some blue AR coating. Also case is well machined. Cant go wrong with this.
I'd go for the Geckota, the price with the 100m and the practicality is the winner. I do prefer this one you are reviewing to the Laco and Stowa options though.
It's as if they'd been reading my mind. 40mm option ... faux-thentic Luftwaffe/RLM engravings on the side and back (plus no silly see-through caseback), multiple colour-options for the dial and hands, Swiss auto and a very reasonable price. I think I could live without the lineage here, especially since all those LW-watches more or less look the same when it comes to the basic design. Thanks, Jody... this one is definitely going in the "to buy" bookmarks-folder. :)
An interesting alternative would be the Laco Aachen for 340 Euros. No ETA but a Miyota movement and 5 instead of 10 ATM water resistance, but saphire crystal and also type B. Plus, you get a proper heritage and it's also made in Germany. I think I'd go for the Aachen, as I'm as budgety as it gets, I don't have any problems with a Japanese movement instead of a Swiss one and I don't need any fancy shmancy case options. :)
Yeah, I reviewed the Aachen a while ago and liked it. The Miyota is not in the same league at the ETA in this one, but it has the lineage in spades. Cheers!
@@JustOneMoreWatch True, there are worlds between the two movements. But honestly, on a daily basis, a proper regulated Miyota 8000 series is fine for me. Looking forward to the next video!
I bought one of these, (although mine is a Type A). It's easily as good as a Stowa or Archimede.
(mine was US$600.)
Bur be aware, it took two months from order to delivery.
Edit: Mine has 20mm lugs, and all the edges are nicely finished; no sharp edges.
I soooooo love that Star Wars T-Shirt! 🤩 Watch is lovely as well :-)
Great offering, if you want an automatic Flieger, however, it would; in my opinion; suit a Lumed Second finger irrespective of whether that is the norm .
nice watch... is the crown polished oder sandblasted?
Nicely done review, Jody. Very nice. I looked on their website. 40 mil would be a good size for my wrist. As the 42 I tried on from a friend I think it was by Tisell a little too large for me and they seem to be out of stock all the time for their version. I just paid my dental bill and it was more than this watch. So I am broke again. I have just about every kind of watch but not a Flieger. I would love to have one. This is the best I have seen as far as quality and price. Anyway, the price converted from 416 Euros is $468 for price in US dollars today. Guess the dollar is falling, it used to only be a slight difference.
really like this watch, especially the blued hands.
I also like the size of the band and can;t say anything about the sharp edges however this is a watch I definitely would get if I would in the market for a 'Flieger'
Although I like the Chinese Rolex knock-off (homage) from Pagani I would definitely skip on the Far East version of this, and the other 2 brands while being original it is not worth a doubling in price compared to the Dekla.
Hey Jody! My wife says It would be a great idea to do a video on budget summer watches, maybe throw in a couple for the ladies! E.g Casio Lws-1100h. What do you reckon; Cheers from your fans in Greece!
Probably the best fleiger you can buy from the sound of it. If those were more my kind of watch I'd get this one for sure