I believe the right way to use the water tester is to first put the watch in the part of the tube with air, and then pump up the pressure, and given the air time to leak into the watch. Then you submerge the watch into the water and release the air pressure, and look for bubbles to emerge from the watch. That way, if the water resistance fails, you have time to retrieve the watch before it fills with water.
I think that the point is that he didn't matter if the watch fills with water, at least the watches that he knew that probably would fail. Good to know though ;)
There are two types of test, a dry and a wet. The one you refer to is the dry, and it's the safest, as you can see the air escape when it's immersed, and have a little time to remove it before damage sets in
world of tanks XXX : It's the only way to test ist. If you pressurize the watch submerged, how will you know if it got water inside? By opening it you'll break the seal and you'll never know if it's still waterproof after closing the case again.
With these testers, I think you're supposed to take the watch up to pressure in the chamber above the water, then press the plunger to submerge it and look for bubbles emerging from the case. With your method you could have small amounts of water ingress and you'd never notice. Or shatter the caseback crystal ;)
Hey Jody, as others have already suggested, the proper way to test is by pressurizing with the watch out of the water, dunking, depressurizing, and watching for bubbles. It's true that this gives some time to save a faulty watch, but that's not the real reason. If the watch only had a small leak then it may appear to pass using your method, the air inside the case will compress when water enters and there may not be any bubbles exiting!
@@thereyougoagain1280 904L is slightly softer, but the luster of 904L done well is a thing off beauty! I still think SS can look great to if done right...
I am no watchmaker but I am sure you are doing this wrong mate! You should have the watch above water, raise the pressure, submerge the watch, and release the pressure. If bubbles are escaping from the watch then it failed, if nothing happens it passed.
Agreed. This "test" doesn't really show anything other than catastrophic failure. It misses identifying whether minor leaks exist, and doesn't check the watches after to see whether water entered the watch or not,unless I missed it. Remember, in very miniscule leaks, water ingress will show up as very small droplets or minor "hazing", not just as obvious liquid water in the case. Pressuring it up underwater greatly increases the chance of water intrusion...... Aristeidis posted the correct method - Marc over @LIW did a great run through of it, along with the folks over at Esslinger (they're pretty much gurus at this stuff). Its what I followed when doing my own tests at home. Lastly (apologies if I misinterpreted) but JOMW was using the watch ticking as evidence of success....which isn't necessarily the best thing. Watches can still run with minor water intrusion....the question is more of long term damage at that point (ask me how I know 😓).
@@arvindkalipersad161the catastrophic failure would occur in either scenario. The point want really about how to diagnose water leakage but test if cheap watches confirm to their advertising, at the risk of destroying these watches. It's a wet test not a dry test, that's all.
@@philipcarr6698 yes, but other than the breakage of the glass on that datejust homage, no check was done on the other watches to verify ingress of water, or otherwise. How do we know the other watches did not have ANY water ingress? Water can migrate through failed gaskets/casebacks, without "catastrophic" failure, or significant volumes of water showing in the watch. The watch would look structurally fine. Again, this type of minor migration will manifest as a fine mist/haze which shows up either on the dial/face e.g. by gaps near the hand stem, or near date/day wheel apertures. In such a case, there isn't a noticeable "fluid" phase in the watch, just minor moisture "haze". So in short, yes, you can test as shown here, but using the watch "ticking" as a criteria for the test being passed, isnt 100% accurate IMHO. In such a case (wet test), you'd generally use a condensation check afterwards with a drop of cold water on the crystal to confirm no hint of moisture ingress. Not trying to drag this on, or be combative in anyway, but thats how I've understood the process from my own work/dabbling/whatever I should call it. Hope I gave a bit more context here.
@@philipcarr6698 true. But that only happens when the chamber is depressured. Simple hydraulics- if the case is sealed, then even though the water pressure is boisted to 6 barg, the water can't get in, and inside the watch stays at 0barg. Scenario 1 - If the watch has a leak, and is pressured up UNDERWATER like what JOMW did, then water will enter the case. Bubbles won't come out since any air inside the case would have been at lower pressure initially...close to 0 barg (basic fluid flow hydraulics). Again, on this scenario, water enters the case, no major bubbles to speak of. Scenario 2 - HOwever if the watch were kept in the air space above the liquid when the pressure was increased, and it has a leak, inside the case gets pressurised as well with air (excess air enters the case). Thats why if the test is done correctly (watch is kept above water, then pressured up, then dunked in the water, and pressure bled off) then you'll see air bubbles escaping once the watch is dunked in the water and THEN the pressure is bled off...... if there was a leak (excess air that leaked into the case exits via whatever leak there was). JOMW has used Scenario 1, which will not result in bubbles due to a small leak, since pressuring up underwater leads to water entering the case if there's a leak. I'd suggest checking out some more experienced folk (better than most of us here) on pressure testing - again Esslinger comes to mind. They break down pretty well (and are professionals, not random hobbyists) the Scenarios I've listed above. Laters.
I know people are saying you’re using it wrong Jody but your way is much more fun. Who wants to see a few bubbles seeping out. I want to see the watch fill up and cases implode. Excellent video and a great indicator of what we’re really buying.
Yes, ISO6425 (Divers watch specs) calls for 25% overpressure. ISO22810 (standard most used for watches which are not stamped as "Diver's" - aka the majority of watches on the market) does not call for the 25% overpressure, IIRC. Subject to correction by those more knowledgeable here.
⚠️NOTE⚠️ YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG! The way you're supposed to do it is to hold the watch in the air pocket while you're pumping up the pressure, THEN lower the watch into the water and depressurize. That way if theirs a leak it's just air escaping (you'll see little air bubbles) and you can quickly raise the watch out of the water so no damage will occur. The way you're doing it is just going to pump water into the watch.
Enjoyed that a lot! Think this needs to be a regular content format on this channel, would love to see Steel Dive, San Martin etc tested to see how waterproof those watches actually are! Keep up the good work!
@@lebowskiunderachiever3591 I bought it in 2009; in 2020 I put it in a glass of water to take a photo, and I found water in it. The gaskets got dry and brittle. They probably should be replaced more often than every 11 years - luckily they are sold as spare parts (e.g. meranom.com or vostok-watches24.com), they are very cheap (apart from delivery), and you can change them yourself (I did that, unfortunately *after* flooding the watch...). When new, a Vostok Amphibia can stand to pressures up to 80 bar (actual test: th-cam.com/video/FwNFy2A7rmU/w-d-xo.html )
@@lebowskiunderachiever3591 To see how well a new Vostok Amphibia holds up, look for the video titled, "How Waterproof is Vostok Amfibia Dive Watch? Deep Sea Chamber test!"
I just watched a vid from beyond the press an hour ago that had them testing a citizen and a dugena. And all I could think about the whole time was I really wish jomw had a test rig like that! Glad to see more testing! Keep it up can’t wait for the next one!
@@JustOneMoreWatch no your not a liar the seals are good and the crown design is also really good but will the sapphire caseback crystal hold 200m? I think so !
So, a Chinese pressure tester is being used to test the credibility of the waterproof ratings of Chinese watches. Anybody checked the credibility of that pressure gauge?
I guess so. The lower ratings are most likely one they can guarantee rather than what the watch could. Same goes for food expiry, the dates are just guaranteed longevity rather than how long the food item could actually last.
Thats because they arent QC'ing thier products. Some of these manufacturers probably check only one watch out of a 100, if not 1 out of the whole batch.
I just popped in to rewatch this and my son heard the intro and said Helllloooo and welcome to just one more watch in a great impression of you. You know you watch jomw a lot when lol
Hey JOMW! You should also use the pressure chamber to test other budget watches as well! Like the Casio Duro and Seiko SNK809 (many internet legends saying it can withstand up to 10atm). It would certainly be a fun video to watch
I’m ridiculously late to this video but I’m leaving a comment that I would really like to see more videos like this! I love that you went the destructive route rather than the safer test! So entertaining wondering which one is going to not make it!
Genuinely got anxiety when I saw your Breitling! Only water resistance I ever questioned was the Loreo. 200m with a see through caseback? For $60? Hmmmmm.
The Hydrolic Press channel did this with enough pressure available up to 2 miles of of depth. The watch I was most interested in the invicta pro diver did really good. I can't remember exactly but it was at least twice the rated depth or over before it stopped and worked again after the pressure was released. With no leaks. It's worth checking out. I enjoyed your video. Thanks.
Really nice test Jody. The originality and tech testing of watches in your channel just keeps me coming back. Other youtubers could learn a thing or two from you. That’s what I like, straight to the point, no 30 min. blabbering about like others out there.
Hi. Love the channel. Just curious. I thought you were supposed to suspend the watch above the water, pressurise the chamber, dunk the watch and then release the air. A failure happens when pressured air gets into the watch while it is above the water and appears as bubbles from the submerged watch when the pressure is released from the chamber. In this way a failure doesn't leave the watch flooded inside. Cheers.
Nice vid Jody! I'd LOVE to see you test a Vostok Komandirskie Classic (the cheap manual wind one). Considering how little difference there is between the K and the Amphibia, I have to think that the Komandirskie will out-perform its rating. I'd like to see someone test this!
I think it’s time for Depth Wars! You know the drill... and for added authenticity borrow a long fishing line & Mr X’s boat... 🤣🤣 Or... (serious suggestion) some tests of the water resistance definitions to see if, for example, 30m watches survive a week’s worth of swimming or if 100m sports watches survive some of the more energetic water sports (I know they’re not supposed to but I bet lots will). Also would be interesting to see what happens when watches do let in water (without breaking) and the best ways to fix it. Good to see more variety as well as the reviews 👍👍
Ok, that was the most fun video I’ve ever seen you do. There is something extremely satisfying about breaking stuff. Mythbusters was a huge success because of it.
Gary from I like watches did the same thing. I don't know what was different for his process, I think he releases pressure after and shows the bubbles. Long story short, I was expecting this to go worse.
What up Jodie! I love the pressure test video! Please do more! I bet a bunch of your fans (like me) would love to see a few Pagani’s go into The Tank as well. Crank up the pressure and let’s separate the Liars from the real deal waterproof Crüe. I bet the Pagani watches pass with flying colors, or at least I hope they do. I now own a few of these Chinese 💎 gems and I love em. You turned me onto this Homage company. I just picked up a PD3306 last week and I love it. Great looking watch and it fits my skinny AF 7” wrist just fine. Have a nice holiday weekend sir.
I always treat my watches as if they have no water resistant properties. I also look at what the crystal composition. I also ask if back is screw on and the same with the crown. I also agree that you first suspend the watch case in air , pump up, release with watch case in the water.
Great tests. You know that I knew the F91 would pass with flying colors. It’s one tough watch. This was a cool video. The case back shattered on that fluted piece! Wow!
I gave my daughter a Casio F91-W awhile back, she has forgotten to take it off and jumped in a pool with it on a few occasions, still works perfectly. 👍
I once spent a whole week scuba diving while wearing a casio watch rated at 50m water resistance. The poor thing didn't even have a screw down crown and it survived no problem. Casio watch value never ceases to amaze me!
Gary from ILW has somewhat shied away since the channel rebirth, until recently in putting watches in Herman. Good to see some other Watchtubers take the watches for a dunk ;)
Isnt this water test supposed to be done the other way around? You pressurize the watch outside of the water, then dump it in, and then release the pressure. Failure is indicsted by air bubbles coning out of the watch. This way you at least do not ruin a watch, right? 🤗
Ha ha, great video Jody 😃 . I was wondering who was going to be next to get a pressure testing chamber after Gary from the I like watches channel built his 😋
Always interesting videos. I like. Especially when you submit the watches to the timegtapher. It is always interesting to see the accuracy of the watches that pass here.And now with this device to test the pressure, even better.👍
So you jumped straight to the wet test without trying the dry test? You are a bold one Jory. 😉 It would be awesome if you could test the Vostok Komandirskie in the future. The 20m brass one that is, the 200m steel ones shouldn't care in the slightest. If another Casio, do the World Time, shouldn't fail, and a few Steeldives would also be nice. Oh, and the Pagani Design Cocktail Time, nobody trusts those 100m either.
Doing the test this way, you won't see any bubbles. If it leaks, water will go in while the air inside the case is compressed. To see bubbles, you need to pressurise it in the air, then submerge and release the pressure. Any air that has worked its way past the seals will then escape as bubbles.
I know your method is more fun but a watchmaker takes the pressure up with the watch dry above the water puts the watch in water and let's off the pressure. So a failure is air bubbles are coming out and not having to dry the inside of the watch.
Entertaining vid - liked the Breitling fake-out at the start LOL. Can't swim so unlikely going diving any time soon so tend to go for dive watches purely for the aesthetics. Would be nice to see you try and invite some mid to higher-end watch makers to donate their divers for future test videos to put their money where there advertising is - far too many 'water damaged' serious divers on sale on auction sites. Can't be all user error surely?
Just as a note. I got a Pagani. The king air homage. Very pretty. Really like it. Washed my hands with it on. It fogged up. So I took the back off. No gasket. No o-ring. Nada. Pagani say I can send it back.
Thanks! Great channel. Bought a Seiko 7001 new in 1992 ($280 for cash from local jeweller), wore it for 25 years but now wear the 'plucky' F-91; lightweight, inexpensive, accurate, democratic. I've even got a spare in the glovebox of the car, and a 'loaner' for the kids. Liked the look of the Seiko, and used to dive a bit, but they're relativley expensive to own (CLA every 5-7 years, $100 - $200) and astonishingly inaccurate compared to digital/quartz. Lume completely dead in mine too. But they do have an undeniable charm; I'll keep mine forever, but I wear the F-91.
I believe the watch need to stay above the water line when air is pumped. Then pushed down into the water and then observed for the bubbles to come out. This way if watch is not waterproof the raising air pressure will get inside the watch (pressure outside and inside the watch will get equalized). When watch is lowered down into the water, the bubbles of the pressured air will come out from the watch indicating bad water seals. This way it is also ensured no water is getting inside the watch. Water is not compressible and air (gas) is. Therefore, placing watch into the water and compressing air above the water will be equal to dipping watch into the glass with water. More of the splash proof test. I still appreciate all of the effort author of the video is making on reviewing watches and modifying them. Very interesting and informative reviews. Thanks
You can test water resistance to 100 meters if you have access to a boat. Find 100 meters depth on the fish finder, tie the watch to a fishing rod line & free spool it until it hits the bottom, wait 5 minutes then reel it back up.
Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but doesn't the pressure tester test the pressure at certain depth, e.g. 6 bar would be 60m down. A 100m watch only recommends surface swimming, and isn't claiming the watch can go 100m underwater (always thought the ratings were a bit odd for this reason). Therefore your 100m watch might actually be performing as well as expected if it can handle 1 bar pressure?
I believe the right way to use the water tester is to first put the watch in the part of the tube with air, and then pump up the pressure, and given the air time to leak into the watch. Then you submerge the watch into the water and release the air pressure, and look for bubbles to emerge from the watch. That way, if the water resistance fails, you have time to retrieve the watch before it fills with water.
I think that the point is that he didn't matter if the watch fills with water, at least the watches that he knew that probably would fail. Good to know though ;)
That is correct like Melvin says. So is a great tool to use if you actually want to test your watches without to much risk.
There are two types of test, a dry and a wet. The one you refer to is the dry, and it's the safest, as you can see the air escape when it's immersed, and have a little time to remove it before damage sets in
this movie is a disaster
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world of tanks XXX : It's the only way to test ist. If you pressurize the watch submerged, how will you know if it got water inside? By opening it you'll break the seal and you'll never know if it's still waterproof after closing the case again.
my 15 year old Casio just beeped a little louder
Cleaned all the shit out of it lol
Maybe u cleaned ur ears after 15 years...lol
It's letting you know it is still alive by screaming louder
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My heart almost stopped when you took out your breitling!!!
Great video!
Ha! That one would have failed the test!
Skmeis are reliably water resistant, wear one with 50m rating on snorkeling and shallow diving without problem which is nice for a $10 watch
Can you tell me which one is it?
@@Mountain_dude_ The 1382, looks like the casio ae1200, but with pedometer and compass.
Thanks
With these testers, I think you're supposed to take the watch up to pressure in the chamber above the water, then press the plunger to submerge it and look for bubbles emerging from the case.
With your method you could have small amounts of water ingress and you'd never notice. Or shatter the caseback crystal ;)
Hey Jody, as others have already suggested, the proper way to test is by pressurizing with the watch out of the water, dunking, depressurizing, and watching for bubbles. It's true that this gives some time to save a faulty watch, but that's not the real reason. If the watch only had a small leak then it may appear to pass using your method, the air inside the case will compress when water enters and there may not be any bubbles exiting!
When I saw that navitimer I thought, bloody hell, these aussies are just getting crazier
Trust me, that’s not an Australian accent!
would've loved to see it.
@@John..18 he's Scottish but indeed lives in Sydney Australia.
Excuse me. Not an Aussie by a long shot. Ok bloke though
Hilarious, I thought he had lost it when he brought the Navitimer
I was gonna say, you must have stones made of Oystersteel to water test the Navitimer!
DO IT JODY! ;-)
Oystersteel is softer than 316L, you know
@@thereyougoagain1280 904L is slightly softer, but the luster of 904L done well is a thing off beauty! I still think SS can look great to if done right...
@@thereyougoagain1280 True, but "Oystersteel" rolls of the tongue so much nicer. 😉
@@NathanChisholm041 Don't
I am no watchmaker but I am sure you are doing this wrong mate! You should have the watch above water, raise the pressure, submerge the watch, and release the pressure. If bubbles are escaping from the watch then it failed, if nothing happens it passed.
Agreed. This "test" doesn't really show anything other than catastrophic failure. It misses identifying whether minor leaks exist, and doesn't check the watches after to see whether water entered the watch or not,unless I missed it. Remember, in very miniscule leaks, water ingress will show up as very small droplets or minor "hazing", not just as obvious liquid water in the case.
Pressuring it up underwater greatly increases the chance of water intrusion......
Aristeidis posted the correct method - Marc over @LIW did a great run through of it, along with the folks over at Esslinger (they're pretty much gurus at this stuff). Its what I followed when doing my own tests at home.
Lastly (apologies if I misinterpreted) but JOMW was using the watch ticking as evidence of success....which isn't necessarily the best thing. Watches can still run with minor water intrusion....the question is more of long term damage at that point (ask me how I know 😓).
@@arvindkalipersad161the catastrophic failure would occur in either scenario. The point want really about how to diagnose water leakage but test if cheap watches confirm to their advertising, at the risk of destroying these watches. It's a wet test not a dry test, that's all.
@@philipcarr6698 yes, but other than the breakage of the glass on that datejust homage, no check was done on the other watches to verify ingress of water, or otherwise. How do we know the other watches did not have ANY water ingress?
Water can migrate through failed gaskets/casebacks, without "catastrophic" failure, or significant volumes of water showing in the watch. The watch would look structurally fine.
Again, this type of minor migration will manifest as a fine mist/haze which shows up either on the dial/face e.g. by gaps near the hand stem, or near date/day wheel apertures. In such a case, there isn't a noticeable "fluid" phase in the watch, just minor moisture "haze".
So in short, yes, you can test as shown here, but using the watch "ticking" as a criteria for the test being passed, isnt 100% accurate IMHO. In such a case (wet test), you'd generally use a condensation check afterwards with a drop of cold water on the crystal to confirm no hint of moisture ingress.
Not trying to drag this on, or be combative in anyway, but thats how I've understood the process from my own work/dabbling/whatever I should call it. Hope I gave a bit more context here.
@@arvindkalipersad161 You can't have water ingress without bubbles. Simple. Even the dry method of testing also relies on the presence of bubbles.
@@philipcarr6698 true. But that only happens when the chamber is depressured. Simple hydraulics- if the case is sealed, then even though the water pressure is boisted to 6 barg, the water can't get in, and inside the watch stays at 0barg.
Scenario 1 - If the watch has a leak, and is pressured up UNDERWATER like what JOMW did, then water will enter the case. Bubbles won't come out since any air inside the case would have been at lower pressure initially...close to 0 barg (basic fluid flow hydraulics). Again, on this scenario, water enters the case, no major bubbles to speak of.
Scenario 2 - HOwever if the watch were kept in the air space above the liquid when the pressure was increased, and it has a leak, inside the case gets pressurised as well with air (excess air enters the case). Thats why if the test is done correctly (watch is kept above water, then pressured up, then dunked in the water, and pressure bled off) then you'll see air bubbles escaping once the watch is dunked in the water and THEN the pressure is bled off...... if there was a leak (excess air that leaked into the case exits via whatever leak there was).
JOMW has used Scenario 1, which will not result in bubbles due to a small leak, since pressuring up underwater leads to water entering the case if there's a leak.
I'd suggest checking out some more experienced folk (better than most of us here) on pressure testing - again Esslinger comes to mind. They break down pretty well (and are professionals, not random hobbyists) the Scenarios I've listed above.
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Am I the only one who's going to appreciate the OCP shirt from Robocop? Love it!
You have 20 seconds to comply.
I know people are saying you’re using it wrong Jody but your way is much more fun. Who wants to see a few bubbles seeping out. I want to see the watch fill up and cases implode. Excellent video and a great indicator of what we’re really buying.
This looks like a fun and possibly destructive way to clear out the “Drawer of Shame”.😉
this asks for a 10ATM test ! Note that ISO water resistance test requests they be tested at 25% over the mentioned rating (100m WR = 12.5ATM test)
Yes, ISO6425 (Divers watch specs) calls for 25% overpressure.
ISO22810 (standard most used for watches which are not stamped as "Diver's" - aka the majority of watches on the market) does not call for the 25% overpressure, IIRC. Subject to correction by those more knowledgeable here.
great video, i have been waiting for a pressure test video. mabe you can test a few more sometime? mabe a few timex ?
⚠️NOTE⚠️ YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!
The way you're supposed to do it is to hold the watch in the air pocket while you're pumping up the pressure, THEN lower the watch into the water and depressurize. That way if theirs a leak it's just air escaping (you'll see little air bubbles) and you can quickly raise the watch out of the water so no damage will occur.
The way you're doing it is just going to pump water into the watch.
Thanks for being the 3487th person to tell me I'm doing it wrong!
@@JustOneMoreWatch Lol, sorry. I looked through the comments briefly and didn't see anyone mentioning it so I thought I would.
@@JustOneMoreWatch Internet in a nutshell
Amen to that!
I think Jody's way of testing is not "wrong", it's just more SPECTACULAR than the intended use. It's the cinematic test :-)
Enjoyed that a lot! Think this needs to be a regular content format on this channel, would love to see Steel Dive, San Martin etc tested to see how waterproof those watches actually are! Keep up the good work!
I once flooded a Vostok Amphibia in a glass of water, and I learnt the hard way that 10 year old gaskets lose their water resistance.
Any extra details ? I am curious because I am interested in one (may have had one mid 90's as a teen) .
@@lebowskiunderachiever3591 I bought it in 2009; in 2020 I put it in a glass of water to take a photo, and I found water in it. The gaskets got dry and brittle. They probably should be replaced more often than every 11 years - luckily they are sold as spare parts (e.g. meranom.com or vostok-watches24.com), they are very cheap (apart from delivery), and you can change them yourself (I did that, unfortunately *after* flooding the watch...). When new, a Vostok Amphibia can stand to pressures up to 80 bar (actual test: th-cam.com/video/FwNFy2A7rmU/w-d-xo.html )
@@lebowskiunderachiever3591 To see how well a new Vostok Amphibia holds up, look for the video titled, "How Waterproof is Vostok Amfibia Dive Watch? Deep Sea Chamber test!"
Thankfully Vostok sells new gaskets to re-waterproof the vintage watches. I’ve done that for mine, but I’m not bold enough to test it again
I just watched a vid from beyond the press an hour ago that had them testing a citizen and a dugena. And all I could think about the whole time was I really wish jomw had a test rig like that! Glad to see more testing! Keep it up can’t wait for the next one!
My Loreo sub clone lives in the pool in the summer and has gone diving with me in Bermuda, so that one works fine.
I almost did the Loreo, but it has a claimed 200m and a screw down crown, so I figured it would be safe. Or a massive liar!
@@JustOneMoreWatch lol well its been stress tested and passed
Well Gary at ILW did test his and his leaked...so you may have gotten lucky on yours perhaps
@@JustOneMoreWatch no your not a liar the seals are good and the crown design is also really good but will the sapphire caseback crystal hold 200m? I think so !
So, a Chinese pressure tester is being used to test the credibility of the waterproof ratings of Chinese watches. Anybody checked the credibility of that pressure gauge?
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I thought it was made in Sweden.......from the same factory as the enlarger. ;)
Might as well need Chinese water from the Yangtze River! :)
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Exactly my thoughts... How can be shure that the water tester works correctly and shows the real atmospheres. 🤔
Jody I actually thought you would test out one of your Guanqin cheronometers since you've got two of them😅
WOW! New content!!! Really interesting.... Hope to see more of such tests for other brands like phylida, loreo, or even replicas....
Nice to see you've started using the good old £ values👍👍
Pretty surprising results, guess they give lower WR to cover themselves
I guess so. The lower ratings are most likely one they can guarantee rather than what the watch could. Same goes for food expiry, the dates are just guaranteed longevity rather than how long the food item could actually last.
Cissden? Sounds like part of a toilet 🤔
Thats because they arent QC'ing thier products. Some of these manufacturers probably check only one watch out of a 100, if not 1 out of the whole batch.
@@jfilm7466 thats where they checked the water resistance..😆
No surprise, and same with the Casio; it costs more to properly test at higher pressures. I’d still appreciate it if they did, though....
Hey Jody, how about testing one of those cheaper Seiko 5s with WR rating? Cheers
I just popped in to rewatch this and my son heard the intro and said Helllloooo and welcome to just one more watch in a great impression of you. You know you watch jomw a lot when lol
Hey JOMW!
You should also use the pressure chamber to test other budget watches as well! Like the Casio Duro and Seiko SNK809 (many internet legends saying it can withstand up to 10atm). It would certainly be a fun video to watch
I'd be stunned if the 809 can handle 5ATM, let alone 10. Not that I don't love mine, but still.
I’m ridiculously late to this video but I’m leaving a comment that I would really like to see more videos like this! I love that you went the destructive route rather than the safer test! So entertaining wondering which one is going to not make it!
Genuinely got anxiety when I saw your Breitling!
Only water resistance I ever questioned was the Loreo. 200m with a see through caseback? For $60? Hmmmmm.
Gary from ILW had his Loreo fail.
@@waris3732 makes sense!!
The Hydrolic Press channel did this with enough pressure available up to 2 miles of of depth. The watch I was most interested in the invicta pro diver did really good. I can't remember exactly but it was at least twice the rated depth or over before it stopped and worked again after the pressure was released. With no leaks.
It's worth checking out.
I enjoyed your video. Thanks.
Really nice test Jody. The originality and tech testing of watches in your channel just keeps me coming back. Other youtubers could learn a thing or two from you. That’s what I like, straight to the point, no 30 min. blabbering about like others out there.
Hi. Love the channel. Just curious. I thought you were supposed to suspend the watch above the water, pressurise the chamber, dunk the watch and then release the air. A failure happens when pressured air gets into the watch while it is above the water and appears as bubbles from the submerged watch when the pressure is released from the chamber. In this way a failure doesn't leave the watch flooded inside. Cheers.
Nice vid Jody! I'd LOVE to see you test a Vostok Komandirskie Classic (the cheap manual wind one). Considering how little difference there is between the K and the Amphibia, I have to think that the Komandirskie will out-perform its rating. I'd like to see someone test this!
I think it’s time for Depth Wars!
You know the drill... and for added authenticity borrow a long fishing line & Mr X’s boat... 🤣🤣
Or... (serious suggestion) some tests of the water resistance definitions to see if, for example, 30m watches survive a week’s worth of swimming or if 100m sports watches survive some of the more energetic water sports (I know they’re not supposed to but I bet lots will). Also would be interesting to see what happens when watches do let in water (without breaking) and the best ways to fix it.
Good to see more variety as well as the reviews 👍👍
Ok, that was the most fun video I’ve ever seen you do. There is something extremely satisfying about breaking stuff. Mythbusters was a huge success because of it.
This is a very good question! And not only for AliExpress watches)))))
Great video. Kickstarter campaign for Jody to get a pro machine so we can test all the watches?
Could you please do the invicta 8926ob water test? even the 8926 has a display caseback.
Gary from I like watches did the same thing. I don't know what was different for his process, I think he releases pressure after and shows the bubbles.
Long story short, I was expecting this to go worse.
True, he does explain in detail the why he does what he does... 👍
MOST ARE I THINK....TESTING THE GLASS FOR SCRATCHES WAS INTEREESTING...
Add a donations button to fund a 200M pressure cooker.
I agree. Let’s crowd source this and have the best watch reviewer in the world fully kitted out!
I don't trust him operating the 60 m tester let alone a 200 m tester. God knows what I'll be shoving in there 🤕
I'm in, where's the link?
What up Jodie! I love the pressure test video! Please do more! I bet a bunch of your fans (like me) would love to see a few Pagani’s go into The Tank as well. Crank up the pressure and let’s separate the Liars from the real deal waterproof Crüe. I bet the Pagani watches pass with flying colors, or at least I hope they do. I now own a few of these Chinese 💎 gems and I love em. You turned me onto this Homage company. I just picked up a PD3306 last week and I love it. Great looking watch and it fits my skinny AF 7” wrist just fine. Have a nice holiday weekend sir.
I agree with Melvin Leok. That way you could test your Navitimer.
I hope this becomes a regular here.
Nice to see Gary at I like watches water resistance tests are spreading to other channels😜
Lol
Nice one👍👍👍👍
I always treat my watches as if they have no water resistant properties. I also look at what the crystal composition. I also ask if back is screw on and the same with the crown. I also agree that you first suspend the watch case in air , pump up, release with watch case in the water.
What is amazing of the casio is that it survived with old seals in the watch.
The cistern filled with water? Unsurprising if you know how a toilet works
For optimum results the water level should be at the red line. Cheers!
Great tests. You know that I knew the F91 would pass with flying colors. It’s one tough watch. This was a cool video. The case back shattered on that fluted piece! Wow!
this was a real fun video. Kind of gives potential buyers of Chinese watches a sigh of relief
Thank you, Jody, for doing what many of us would so much like to see. And yay, Casio F-91! ; )
Totally wrong way to use the pressure testing device... Sigh..
Cool the old Casio survived, My one only has to survive working on my car.
I gave my daughter a Casio F91-W awhile back, she has forgotten to take it off and jumped in a pool with it on a few occasions, still works perfectly. 👍
The video I was looking for! Please make this a series.
I once spent a whole week scuba diving while wearing a casio watch rated at 50m water resistance. The poor thing didn't even have a screw down crown and it survived no problem. Casio watch value never ceases to amaze me!
I bought my first pagani a little while ago. Good to hear that I can confidently take it with me on vacation and swim in the pool a bit.
Always wondered about the Pagani design watches,thanks.
Jodie, check out Richard Perrett on TH-cam he often tests watches using the same bit of kit, quite a few of which you have reviewed in the past,
Yes indeed.That Invictar fail was pretty destructive blowing the crystal to bits!
You beat me to it. Great suggestion, to see how this piece of equipment works.
Gary from ILW has somewhat shied away since the channel rebirth, until recently in putting watches in Herman. Good to see some other Watchtubers take the watches for a dunk ;)
There'll only ever be one Herman.😁
I'd like to see the steeldive 1970, the Adidas abalone, San Martin 6105 homage, and the heimdalr have a dunk.
I think I requested this a few months back.
Thanks for giving the mob what it demands (but we are expecting a stronger pressure tester in future).
I can but serve the people.
Isnt this water test supposed to be done the other way around? You pressurize the watch outside of the water, then dump it in, and then release the pressure. Failure is indicsted by air bubbles coning out of the watch. This way you at least do not ruin a watch, right? 🤗
What if you want to ruin the watch?
@@JustOneMoreWatch aaaaah, now I see the madness in you, sir. 💪🙏
Gary from i like watches has done it already
Amazing!!
Truely!
My Casio F-91W filled with water when I cycled one mile in the rain. It took several days to dry out. Though, surprisingly, the watch kept on going!
This was one of the funnest watch videos ever!
Have you sold Herman, Gary?
Nope, still got mine....he’s got lots of brothers and sisters!
Herman’s Back!
Ha ha, great video Jody 😃 . I was wondering who was going to be next to get a pressure testing chamber after Gary from the I like watches channel built his 😋
🤣 Herman mk ll.
Credit where credit is due?
I almost had a heart attack when you said you were gonna test the Breitling!
Always interesting videos. I like. Especially when you submit the watches to the timegtapher. It is always interesting to see the accuracy of the watches that pass here.And now with this device to test the pressure, even better.👍
Somebody please send Jody a Swedish flag decal for his new toy.
Any idea why the chinese name their watch Cissdern that sounded very much like Cistern? I hear flushing somewhere...😅
Thank you. What we need is tests for Steeldive San Martin and Heimdallr
It'd be cool if you submit those steeldive/san martin/heimdallr to the same test!
So you jumped straight to the wet test without trying the dry test? You are a bold one Jory. 😉
It would be awesome if you could test the Vostok Komandirskie in the future. The 20m brass one that is, the 200m steel ones shouldn't care in the slightest. If another Casio, do the World Time, shouldn't fail, and a few Steeldives would also be nice. Oh, and the Pagani Design Cocktail Time, nobody trusts those 100m either.
Edit: Jody of course, I'm an idiot, wrong watch channel.
Nice to see you here Alias Anybody, I’m usually on I like Watches 🤣!
Doing the test this way, you won't see any bubbles. If it leaks, water will go in while the air inside the case is compressed.
To see bubbles, you need to pressurise it in the air, then submerge and release the pressure. Any air that has worked its way past the seals will then escape as bubbles.
I know your method is more fun but a watchmaker takes the pressure up with the watch dry above the water puts the watch in water and let's off the pressure. So a failure is air bubbles are coming out and not having to dry the inside of the watch.
Watchmaker: definitely better. JOMW: definitely more fun.
@@JustOneMoreWatch Jodie I ordered the PHOIBOS EAGLE RAY automatic watch. Thanks
I have the same Cadisen watch. It lets water in from glass case back.
Only 1 failure? Good enough, carry on with the tunnel between Scotland and N. Ireland.😃.(Chinese Engineers).
I think that tunnel is a great idea , it would give the orange marches somewhere to march that wouldn't annoy the normal folk.
I think that tunnel is a great idea , it would give the orange marches somewhere to march that wouldn't annoy the normal folk.
Entertaining vid - liked the Breitling fake-out at the start LOL. Can't swim so unlikely going diving any time soon so tend to go for dive watches purely for the aesthetics. Would be nice to see you try and invite some mid to higher-end watch makers to donate their divers for future test videos to put their money where there advertising is - far too many 'water damaged' serious divers on sale on auction sites. Can't be all user error surely?
Just as a note. I got a Pagani. The king air homage. Very pretty. Really like it.
Washed my hands with it on. It fogged up. So I took the back off.
No gasket. No o-ring. Nada.
Pagani say I can send it back.
Great video Jody we need more content like this on the channel. Had me at the edge of my seat when you tested the breitling
I am glad the pagani explorer made it because I got one because of your reviews....For the money its a great watch.....so far.
You are the first person I have seen hope for a watch to fail a test!😃 it did prove a valuable point. Thank you Jody!
@justonemorewatch you should test some of the San Martin watches next time.
Was quite interested in that Cissden because of the purple dial, but glad I watched this video first
Wear my loreo everyday....shower etc..and swimming on hols...still going strong ( wee bit fast and noisey ticking....love it ....ta for video!
It will interesting to know if the thin display case back is a trend on the Chinese homages.
Great new video style! Really reaffirming to me how much value is in the Pagani watches
Excellent video post I always use my Casio g shock watch for work Casio produce some cracking watches thanks for that most informing.
Great bit of kit Jody. Love the wave dial on the Cissden 😂
Thanks! Great channel. Bought a Seiko 7001 new in 1992 ($280 for cash from local jeweller), wore it for 25 years but now wear the 'plucky' F-91; lightweight, inexpensive, accurate, democratic. I've even got a spare in the glovebox of the car, and a 'loaner' for the kids. Liked the look of the Seiko, and used to dive a bit, but they're relativley expensive to own (CLA every 5-7 years, $100 - $200) and astonishingly inaccurate compared to digital/quartz. Lume completely dead in mine too. But they do have an undeniable charm; I'll keep mine forever, but I wear the F-91.
I believe the watch need to stay above the water line when air is pumped. Then pushed down into the water and then observed for the bubbles to come out. This way if watch is not waterproof the raising air pressure will get inside the watch (pressure outside and inside the watch will get equalized). When watch is lowered down into the water, the bubbles of the pressured air will come out from the watch indicating bad water seals. This way it is also ensured no water is getting inside the watch. Water is not compressible and air (gas) is. Therefore, placing watch into the water and compressing air above the water will be equal to dipping watch into the glass with water. More of the splash proof test. I still appreciate all of the effort author of the video is making on reviewing watches and modifying them. Very interesting and informative reviews. Thanks
This is so cool! I love that you went the extra mile to make a really interesting video.
A very similar Casio model to the F-91 is W-59 which has a 50m WR rating printed on the otherwise seemingly identical case.
You can test water resistance to 100 meters if you have access to a boat. Find 100 meters depth on the fish finder, tie the watch to a fishing rod line & free spool it until it hits the bottom, wait 5 minutes then reel it back up.
@Top Jimmy fish ate it.....then its a game of find the fish....
Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but doesn't the pressure tester test the pressure at certain depth, e.g. 6 bar would be 60m down. A 100m watch only recommends surface swimming, and isn't claiming the watch can go 100m underwater (always thought the ratings were a bit odd for this reason). Therefore your 100m watch might actually be performing as well as expected if it can handle 1 bar pressure?
Jody and his Swedish Water Pressure Tester. Just what I look forward to seeing in the morning!