The Payton-Kemp Sonics were truly dominant at their peak. Then they met the 72-win Bulls | Bulldozed
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- On this episode of Bulldozed, Bomani Jones explores the 1990s Seattle Supersonics that, led by Gary Payton and Shawn Kemp, dominated with an exciting style of play, but ran into the winningest Chicago Bulls team in the NBA Finals.
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Sonics didn't "become" the Thunder. Seattle got jacked, bamboozled and led astray. Supersonics franchise lives and dies in Seattle, not OKC.
The Sonics didn’t land in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma City landed on the Sonics😂
Thats right!
I agree with everything you said except the franchise's records are shared with the OKC Thunder. the uniforms and nickname belong to Seattle.
Honestly they should just move the team back to Seattle. Nobody gives af about OKC.
@@lilsyko3791 Tell em Malcolm lol
This is the story of this era of basketball:
They were dominant.
Then they met Jordan.
💀 still a better team than the sorry thunders
@Robert Johnson I am more retarded for reading this garbage. Thanks.
@Robert Johnson please nvr talk abt basketball ever again
@Robert Johnson The Sonics put up a much better fight vs Chicago in the 1996 Finals than OKC did vs Miami in 2012. I'm a Chicago fan and I believe Seattle could've won that series if they had let Payton guard MJ from the start. MJ struggled over the last 3 games of the series after Seattle made that defensive switch and the Bulls didn't score more than 87 points during those last 3 games. They just screwed up waiting until they were down 3-0 to let Payton have that chance. OKC won game 1 of the 2012 Finals and then proceeded to get schooled and smacked around by Miami the rest of that series. I knew that group in OKC wasn't gonna win a championship together after that awful performance on the big stage.
@Robert Johnson no that's what bronsexuals do, elevate an old spurs, a 1 star Dallas and an injured GS to elevate Le3-6
Seattle was the original lob city
Wit way better defense
Lol correct never was a threat to win a champion ship all flash 📸💯😎
Indeed
OG LOB City for sure
Nice post! Yes sir
NBA needs to bring back the Seattle Supersonics!
Hector Rodriguez Why tf would that happen
SD Fishin No
@@sdfishinn Yes. LA can't have two teams sharing the same court
Yes and move clippers to seattle
Thats what I do in 2k haha
Expansion isn’t even on the table until 2025 the league said
Detlef Schrempf stock would definitely be ten times higher in today's game
MartiansvsGoblins big FACTz & HerseyHawkins sharpshooting, that 90s era Sonics team would dominate teams of today with that run&gun style, Payton is 1 of the greatest PGs ever when runnin' offense in transition
Absolutely, with his 3 point accuracy.
In Seattle, I found a mural of Detlef Schrempf lol.
Detlef would thrive in today’s soft NBA, so underrated
Would kinda be like that bogdan dude that plays for the jazz
I love Gatling for dapping up Kemp after he got crushed at the rim. Gatling played that situation as tough as he could, stood his ground, took the L, and rather than be sore about it, he showed respect. That's the warrior code, real recognizing real, whatever you want to call it.
Sonic's we're very exciting team, high flying dunks and paces from Kemp and the glove
like bo said they had the 2nd most wins from 1992-1998....they probably were the one team that could bully the bulls literally...the way they held mj down proves how lethal the athletes were on that team on defense....pippen didn't dominate either...
The 90's Sonics were the reason I love basketball today. The fact that they were the only real team that gave Jordan and the Bulls even the slightest pause and it happened to be during their 72 win season, is a testament to their tough as nails play style. Gary Payton and Shawn Kemp are still 2 of my favorite players of all time as a kid who grew up in the Bay Area when the Warriors were garbage but still wanted a Bay Area hero to root for, I absolutely fell in love with Gary Payton and his stifling defense. It hurts that the team isn't still in Seattle but I might never have been the basketball fan that I am today if it wasn't for the Seattle Supersonics.
Also the Jazz in 97 and 98 gave the Bulls some concern. The Bulls needed last second heroics from Jordan and Kerr to beat them. The 93 Suns were very tough as well. Yes, the Sonics in 1996 were a powerhouse. One of the best teams to lose in the finals.
Houston rockets were elite too! They looked promising to repeat until Seattle made record playoffs threes and sweep them in a second round
I still say that the Bulls' best opponent was the '93 Suns(lost in 6,including one in triple overtime)
Kcsupersonic Couldn't have said it better myself. I was a huge Sonics fan, loved Payton and Kemp, and was from NorCal too. Detlef and Nate were great too, would've won a championship with that team in the late 90s if it wasn't for Jim McIltrane...and Kemp's nose candy didn't help.
Ya man that wombo-combo of Kemp and Payton was amazing to watch.
Shawn Kemp in his prime was an Assassin if you ever saw him. The best player in the NBA who is still not in the Hall of Fame.
Facts 💯 👏🏾 and Webber
Shwan: I'm an assassin
Jordan: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
He was very good, very athletic.......not great
He averaged 23 10 2 in those finals against Chicago, all that while being guarded by Rodman. That’s pretty good by any standards. Unfortunately they traded him away and, even worse, he let himself go badly after that 98-99 lockout
Dont forget Dominique Wilkins
Supersonics was definitely one of my favorite teams and the Pacers.... especially when Bird was coaching
Agreed but my dude put a shirt on :)
Same.. Bulls are my home town team. I really wanted the Pacers to beat the Lakers in 2000 so bad lol.
Facts and my cough cough Knicks lol
OP the 90s were filled with legendary teams. Unfortunately, MJ was always blocking. Those 90s teams would eat in today's NBA.
miss their green antenna/tower logo, their court, the team and players.. Payton, Schrempf, Hersey Hawkins, Kemp... They were strong players... I love this late 90'sSonics team...and the NBA on NBC theme.. Heart of Champion and Michael Buffer, spectacula! r😍😢.. Just reliving the 1996 to 1998 games...MJ era was the hypest, bestest players.. I love Bulls, Supersonics and Atlanta Hawks so much😂😍
Loved and still remember that 1996 Finals match up, Featuring my two favorites at the time. Michael and Kemp. As a basketball fan. What more can you ask for.
Imagine being a Seattle fan back in 94-95 seasons watching your team go 120-44 in regular season those 2 years but couldn't get past the 1st round both years. Crazy
Totally agree. Those 1994-95 Sonics teams sort of reminded me of the 1980's college basketball DePaul Blue Demons of the early 1980's. Both teams loaded with so much talent. And they both inexplicably lose early.
1994 loss to Denver was inexcusable…
The 1995 loss was a 4 seed losing to a 5 seed….not unheard of
90s were tough for me. I always went against the Bulls, because everyone and their mother had the bulls as their fav. So you can imagine how fun that was lol
It felt like Jordan shot 87% from the field lol
same here!
You were not alone. I always wanted someone to hold Jordan under double digits. But,,, no one came close. As much as I went against him and wanted his team to lose, he always disappointed me. Character of a GOAT.
That’s the crazy part. Most of these ignorant bronsexuals think we all rooted for Jordan , but most of us didn’t. I always went for the Pacers but they never won lol
That’s why we call Jordan the goat bc he beat all of our favorite teams.
@@aris_mendez ok bc he beat ur favorite team he came goat? Lol what a idiotic logic
Welp.. that’s sucked for you guys (Bulls Fan).
I was in highschool in 95-96.Almost everyone was a Bulls fan but me and a friend.I miss Supersonics so much....
“Legalize Kemp”
One thing that you forgot to mention is that, once Payton switched onto Jordan, the Sonics destroyed the Bulls in Game 4, giving them their worst playoff loss of Jordan's 6 titles runs. They also beat them by double digits in Game 5 before the Bulls finally finished them off. You really have to wonder what that series would have looked like had Payton guarded Jordan during the entire series.
NOT REALLY I ALWAYS FELT MJ AND THE BULLS INTENTIONALLY LOST THOSE GAMES TO WIN AND CLOSE THE SERIES ON FATHER'S DAY. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A SWEEP.
@@adamsamuel8593 No, the Bulls did not intentionally lose Finals games. No one would do that, especially someone as insanely competitive as Michael Jordan. That is the dumbest thing that I've ever heard.
Ultimately I don't think it matters. I think ppl love to play contrarian nowadays and play the "what if" game. The reality is yes, for a couple games, Peyton got the better of him. But do you really think Jordan and the team wouldn't have adjusted and figured it out?
Man, this old footage looks so crystal clear. I love it
I was a HUGE Sonics fan back then. They always had good teams but couldn’t figure it all out in the playoffs. It’s just a shame the year they finally got to the finals it had to be against Jordan and the 72 win Bulls.
Bill Nye same here, that WesternConference was a BEAST in the 90s though, every year it was impossible to predict who was coming out theWest, it was always way more stacked & competitive than the EasternConf.
The east had Ewing and Knicks, Miller and the Pacers, Shaq/Penny and the Magic, Morning/Hardway and the Heat just to name a few. The east was stack too. It wasn't weak like how it's been for the last 15 years.
@@Bigmojojo
Ewing and the Knicks... Miller and the Pacers... Lol thats one superstar per team. Apart from Shaq/Penny and Malone/Stockton there were really no teams that had that dominant line up to take on the Bulls. Sonics lost 2 straight in the first round as a top seed. They were close 4th seed in the 2nd lose but still top seeded
Those guys cant compare to 80s nor the 2010-up line ups.
2nd or 3rd best team in the 90’s an lose the best ever when they finally make it to the finals
they never found a third option ...detlef was good but kemp and glove were never 28-30 ppg guys so they needed that 3rd guy to get them 18-20
This was dope! Bomani needs to do all greats teams of the 90s and 2000s.
Shawn Kemp AKA The Reign Man and Gary Payton Aka The Glove was one of the best duos in the NBA history most underrated teams Seattle Supersonic
Stevie Critique Newby Shawn Kemp should be in the hof. He’s definitely better than Mitch Richmond and Bernard King.
@@jackdamenace13 Well Kemp is def deserving of the hall. Hes better than richmond but noo way kemp was better than king and Kemp was one of my favs during the 90s. And im a knick fan saying that. Lol. Bernard King is truly underrated
I think the SuperSonics memory is blemished because they were a 1 seed that lost to an 8 seeded Denver team in the 1994 Playoffs but I agree they were a solid team
True but that Denver team was nasty
@@gmikegaines Facts
The Lister Blister was the nastiest dunk that I ever saw put on a dude.
He cried in the car..
yeah, also the way kemp showed that swag and pointed two fingers on alton lister!
@@d.balbas6952 Nowadays. The Announcer would have gotten suspended for that call.
Am I a joke to you? - Pippen dunking on Ewing
Tom chambers on mark jackson
Vince carter on Alonzo mourning
Vince carter on Tim duncan
DeAndre Jordan on brandon knight
KJ on Hakeem Olajuwon
John Starks baseline on MJ and the bulls
Baron davis on Andre Kirilenko
“It’s ironic, I had the Brew, she had the Chronic, the Lakers beat the Super Sonics!”
...sorry somebody had to say it. 🤣
That was clever, I likes it, I likes IT..😁😂🤣
Cube!!!! Yep, it was a good day.
W
“I felt on the big fat fanny”
its kinda crazy to me that a city that won a title post 1958 is not in the nba anymore...like guys I get a couple of those first title teams like the hawks royals bullets and nationals moving but how did the sonics move with a title?...it makes no sense...
Only small fries who listen to Shannon Sharpe don’t know how good Seattle was.
Shannon is a fraud sport journalist, he's more of a cheerleader for lebron then a sports journalist.
@@princezeah452 hate to say it but it be like that alot
rent free
LeBron is like Shawn Kemp
Avril Lavigne
Lebron is nowhere near shawn kemp
Bring back the Suuuuupersonics to Seattle!!! Key arena and the sonics was vibes... The fans of Seattle deserve better!!!
Leonel Langston Seattle had better jerseys and everything
I don't know how you take the supersonics from a market like seattle: a city loaded with tech money, great culture and scene. Beautiful scenery and city one of the best places to live in America.
And then theres Oklahoma.........uhhhhh well uh some nut bombed hundreds of people once there. And uhhh yeah. Oklahoma
Key is getting renovated for the incoming NHL team. The NBA has to at least be making a plan just in case.
baltimore, kansas city, st. louis and seattle deserve a team over vegas...the nba needs to do something about this...
Alan d You have Clay Bennett who is prominent business man in Oklahoma City to thank for that!
The SuperSonics had a lot of good players that people forgot about underrated team
people don't understand....the 90's suns blazers lakers pistons sonics cavs jazz pacers knicks heat had great teams that could beat the bulls if they were led by anyone but mj..their best player could not outplay mj....they just didn't have mj...period....those were great teams....switch barkley and mj the suns win it all multiple times...switch glove with mj the sonics win multiple times....same with the jazz and malone same with the knicks and ewing same with the cavs and brad or price either one same with the pacers with reggie or haet with zo lakers with magic pistons with zeke and blazers with clyde....mj would of won multiple titles at least 3 with all those cores...he was that good....
@@razkable the whole league was better back then i think.
Detlef schremph was a 3pt assassin...6'10 with a soft touch...would've been a force in this era
my favorite team of all time! GP and Rein were REAL!
Same
Reign
Your favorite team of all time never won a chip? How sad. No shade. This is coming from a Detroit Lions fan
With ya homie... still got my authentic Kemp jersey along with my VERY first pair of the zebra print Reebok Kamikazes 💯
I seen that documentary making Jordan look like he’s a god when was nice but severely over hyped. Jordan received calls that made other players unable to guard him like they did other players; I knew that them and they even showed Magic saying that I’m the documentary with Bird. Also they hyped him up and made it seem he was “struggling at times” dealing with losing his father YEARS ago the reason he was a little “off key” when the glove started guarding him. Were are my real Sonics fans that kept up with the team and knew that DURING the playoffs close to the finals GP sister ATTEMPTED SUICIDE. So do you think maybe he had things in his mind as well? Jordan was nice but severely over hyped.
Seattle needs another NBA team!
They need more than just baseball & football. Although I feel like football overshadows other sports there being that the Marnier's haven't seen anyone good since Griffey Jr. Hockey could fit being that Canada boarders them (could be the Canadian style fans & basketball as the American side.
@@Gambit_LeBeau Well come around 2021 if everything goes back to normal, Seattle should be beginning their inaugural season in the NHL. And hopefully with the new KeyArena and some good support for the hockey team, the NBA looks at expansion before the next TV deal
james yang So does Louisville. Or maybe Montreal. The league can afford two more teams.
They should move the pelicans there
@@theman9048 no the people in New Orleans love them just give Seattle the thunder or a expansion team
The 90's was the golden age of NBA basketball.
Both 80's and 90's..
Shawn Kemp should be in the hall of fame!
It is a freaking tragedy that he is not in the Hall of Fame
No he shouldn't. He did play great in Seattle and if he had kept it up he would be a hall of Famer. But once he left Seattle his career fell off a cliff. He gain too much weight and never got back his explosiveness. Hall Famers play great no matter where they go, you can't say that about Kemp.
@@tommydub1281 Holy hyperbole catwoman!
A tragedy.. would be the Hindenburg exploding. Shawn Kemp not making the HOF doesn't quite qualify.
@@Bigmojojo exactly, smh at these NPC comments.
by far the most athletic big to ever play in theNBA, there will never be another
Kemp averaged 23 pts and 10 rebs in that 96 finals
That Lister Blister dunk was so awesome! He cupped it, cocked it and then rocked it with a whole lot of funk on top.
Kemp was my favorite player back in the day. He was ALWAYS in foul trouble. It almost seemed like the refs targeted him. Had Kemp had 2-3 more all-star caliber years he'd probably be in the hall.
T-Mac, Penny, and Grant Hill are all in. They had injury riddled careers.
McGrady never got out the first round even when he was healthy and is a first ballot HOFer.
It’s all about politics bro.
Grant hill was money though
Juicy Smooyay Penny Hardaway isn’t in the HOF. What are you talking about?
@@atlien1988 Tmac averaged 32 and the the league in scoring twice during the toughest defensive era in history. Kemp never led the league in anything and I don’t even think he has an award like MIP
As a kid who watched all the Bulls' games from 1991 to 1998, i found Gary Payton to be the most threatening to MJ and his team in any of the 6 Finals. And The Glove was the 1st point guard i traded for in all my NBA video games playing as Bulls (of cos).
This just proves Michael Jordan had competition back in the 90s.
none of those teams were all time great teams. You can debate there were 2 all time great teams in the 80s, 2010s and 2020 (maybe). None of those teams were jauggernauts nor remembered in history
Rico Wright Kemp was able to take it the length of the court by himself and dunk in yo face tf you talking about
*Against 60-win teams in the Playoffs: JORDAN ( 7-2 ), Lebron ( 3-4 ).*
*Against 50-win teams in the Playoffs: JORDAN ( 20-7 ), Lebron ( 19-11 ).*
Let"t not forget Joakim Noah was the last first team All-Nba player ( 2014 ) besides LBJ before Giannis ( 2019 ).
*All-Nba Players.*
LBJ"s era ( 2003/2018 ):
*East- 58.*
*West -147.* ( LOL ).
Lebron James feasted in the weak East.
@@allanhouston6759 Against 70 win teams in the playoffs? Someone had to ask it ;)
You didn't know?
I’m lovin all of this! Boomani is the perfect guy to talk about all of this.
Shawn Kemp was the best player on the planet in that series.
Those who watched it...know this to be a fact.
facts
@78mfleet Watch the series. And you'll see why I said it
Truth.
Nah you're tripping
@news flash ok
@BomaniJones, Rain Man and the Glove extremely under rated. I'm a lifetime Lakers Fan. Keep up the good work brother 👊
Sonics refusal to pay Kemp his due max contract, while overpaid a glorified benchwarmer is the beginning of their undoing.
Whos that benchwarmer
@@lukajokic828 Jim McIlvaine
Kemp became fat and awful quickly.
Kemp turned into an overweight drugged out benchwarmer himself though.
That was because of the lockout and Vin Barker also gain a good amount of weight too from that. He didn't last much longer or have the same impact on the team that Kemp did.
Sonics coach G. Karl even said that Rodman should have been MVP of the 96 championship because he single handedly won the Bulls 3 games with his mental games and shenanigans. I grew up in Tacoma, WA at the time when Sonics were at their best and I have to agree.
The Sonics always choked in the playoffs under George Karl. Their best chance of winning a title was 1994
ye ,big shame they lost in 1994...
That's why the video title is hilarious BS.. They were never a dominant team. They didn't do anything in the playoffs till 96. And nothing in 97 or 98..
The title is just trying to hype Jordan for killing a dominant team, which he never did, while lebron did win against a 73-9 team which was also a championship team a year before
Wait what is a LeBron fan doing here? And yes they were dominant it was harder to make the finals when people weren’t building super teams aka LeBron.
@@hkbrightshadow4225 Jordan never beat a dominant tram? Ur a funny guy...
First in 1991 Jordan beat the Pistons who where the champions back then...and had beatten the Bulls three years in a row...
B. In 1992 Thr Bulls beated Portland who was the best team in the League after Chicago. Clyde Drexler was in his prime, a hall of famer, but Jordan showed he was better then him.
In 1993 the Suns where thought to be the best in the league.
Charles Barkly was in hia Prime.
So was kevin jhonson. Charles thought no one could beat him that year, but Jordan was better winning
3 two.
1996
Sonics with Payton and Kemp in there prime having a 60 games winnings in the regular season. Lost four two.
1997
Jordan beat a very strong Jazz team, if any team deserved a ring it was the Jaz with Malone and John S, giving everything they had through out the years. Two hall of famers. So because of Jordan this great players ,Rej Miller as well did not win a championship.
Drexler, Charles, payton and Shawn Kemp, Miller , Malone and John s.
Drexler won after he was traded to Huston, payton to the Heat.
People tend to forget to mention that the Sonics won both games against the Bulls during the regular season. A team that only lost 10 games all together.
add to that the fact that when George Karl put Payton on Jordan in Game 4, that 0-3 deficit became 2-3.... if only he did that matchup at the very start of the series.
@@jamirimaj6880 I distinctly remember that Nate McMillan missed games 2 and 3 with a back injury; that was one less good defender to throw at Jordan and the reason Karl was reluctant to throw Payton at Jordan all game. Once McMillan returned, the Sonics started to roll. If McMillan were healthy, the series might have at least gone 7.
No they didn't. They only won 1, in seattle, at the beginning of the season.
Blame it on MJ, he crushed so many great players hope and legacy’s
The Sonics in the 90s, are a great team. Imagine if they did it right in 1994 without losing to the Nuggets in the First Round.
They would have gone past jazz and lost in wcf against the rockets
Thank you Bomani,, alot of your Media Friends don't seem to know how deep the Sonics were. They would've been VERY DANGEROUS in this era. The entire bench squad was formidable, Kemp was a Monster, GP was a thief, Detlif Shrimp could knock the Big shot down easy. A 60+ win team with interchangeable parts that ran into the GOAT of all era's MJ AKA BLACK JESUS AKA the Black Cat..
Sonics were trash dude. They had two players. Kemp and payton. Wilt is the goat over jordan. He got 100 in a game wearing converse. Lemme know next time you play a game in converse. He averaged 48 min a game for a whole season. He holds 60 plus 70 plus records its not debate at all. Blocked kareem abdul jabbar sky hook twice. 55 rebounds in one game against bill russel. Mj cant compare. All you can say is 6 and 0 cuz his career was manufactured by elite white men who controlled the game and fate of players when it came down to playoffs and finals thanks to management and refs. Its how team sports work
@@JamilMusicLoverSingleton i think you're just jealous that MJ is the goat.
They also had Sam Perkins the original Stretch 5
@@stevenl6283 Exactly 💯 Perkins was spreading the court giving teams problems at that time. He was One of the Original stretch 4's.
the goats tied literally always have and will be both wilt chamberlain and bill russell
The Glove and The Reignman! My favorite tandem. Had they had a better coach and just one more athletic player, they would’ve beat the bulls!
“He did it with that look on his face”. So simple, yet so perfectly put.
Shawn Kemp is like 90"s slimmer version of Zion
6"10 Shawn Kemp, 6"6 Zion Willamson.
6"7 Larry Johnson - Zion Willamson 90s.
but Kemp had a really solid midrange game from the get go
No, more so Blake Griffin
That nuggets 1st round loss was excruciating. Right up there with Mariners going out after winning all those games or Russ's INT in SuperBowl.
I hope Gary wonders sometime. Himself, Shawn and Ray on the same team going against Michael.
Used to be my go to squad in the old NBA Live days. Schrempf could knock down 3s from anywhere, Kemp could dunk on anyone and Payton cut slash any defense easily. The Bulls were just on some straight wizardry tho.
No mention of Frank Brickowski?! Or Big Smooth as well?
...Rickey Pierce / Eddie Johnson / Dana Barros/ Derick McKey
… that team took the SUNS to a 7
If the refs hadn't kicked Brick out with ticky tack fouls the series would've went 7
or ervin johnson or vincent askew
I would love to see this series continue after you are done with all the teams during the 90s. You could always focus on teams who fell short in other decades...
They also had Sam perkins and hersey Hawkins
Perkins was a bust. And hersey Hawkins being a starter is laughable.
@@thewax286 look up Hersey Hawkins career stats. He definitely was starter caliber and would smoke todays NBA players with his shooting %. Hersey Hawkins took a reduced role once he joined the Sonics due to them having such a stacked starting lineup, if you dont believe me look at his stats by year for the amount of shots he got up after joining the sonics.
The year they blew it against the Nuggets...still slays me.
Rodman was incredible in that finals series
He couldn't stop Kemp though.
Any other team and he would have won finals mvp.
@@jp3813 jordan couldnt stop payton too
@@Se0420_ 7-ppg FMVP ? ?
After that Rodman was not good in the next 2 finals
96 was crazy. I got best defensive player for my sixth grade basketball team. We went to the finals. I went to sonics basketball camp that summer as the only kid that rocked a sonics jersey with Jordan 11s.
Ppl forget that 96 year the Sonics went 64-18 and beat Hakeem’s Rockets and the Jazz en route to the finals. Then they met MJ...
Rico Wright stfu
Rico Wright who was burnt out and retiring ?
@Rico Wright hakeem/drexler and stockton/malone were trash? Lmao. They shut down these guys and also pippen. And held MJ to 41.5%. All of these players were in or near their prime. Try and find me one team from the 2000s that shut down that many Hall of Fame players, and that level of Hall of Fame players, in or near their prime, during one single postseason run.
Yes but they lost in the 1st round previous 2 years.. And did nothing in 97 and 98.. Not a dominant team at all..
scoop245 2004 Pistons?
If you get to watch the 6 games played for the 1996 NBA finals, you guys will realize the following:
1. Shawn Kemp played those games so good enough to become the NBA Finals MVP, but he wasn’t granted... he deserved it though.
2. Michael Jordan scored the lowest amount of points in a finals series vs the 1996 Sonics scoring less than 30 points per game when he used to score over 35 on the previous series... that’s a fact, you can check it up
3. Gary Payton really stopped MJ on games 4 and 5, not so much on game 6, but consider that it was Hershey Hawkins guarding Air on the first 3 games, which was not the best option as we all could see. With GP on MJ the series would’ve gone to game 7 and anything could’ve happened. 4. Sam Perkins and Det were under their usual contribution to the Sonics game... if they had been sharper, particularly Sam (who played garbage, you can watch the video for the series for yourselves) who could’ve done things better. 5. In short, as a fan of the Sonics but recognizing the greatness of Michael Jordan... we were not that far of getting the title that 96 if only such factors had been observed, corrected and emphasized. Bring our Sonics back!
As far as I remember the bulls never won regular season with them. correct me if am wrong.
@@ElderYouth You're partially right... the Sonics were one of the only 10 teams to defeat the 72-10 Bulls from 1995-1996 The matchups were 1 win for each team that regular season (Additionally, Bulls didn't win either the preseason game of 1995 vs. the Sonics)
Hey thank you for that ...... let's people know how good how good the reign man and the glove were and how great Mike was......great piece!
"Today were doing it for Seattle"
-Bleacher Report
Lol funny I just watched that, before coming here.
To this day, Shawn Kemp is STILL the greatest in-game dunker in the history of the NBA (with apologies to 'Nique)
Nah it's Vince Carter hands down
@Andrew Evans Kemp isn't even top 3. It goes Vince, Jordan, Nique, Dr J and then Kemp
This dudes voice is awesome. Let him keep doing vids!
“If the whole league says you’re cheating, the coach is probably doing something right “ - Coach Belichick approves of this👍
"Today's basketball dorks would love him" is so damned on point re Detlef.
I remember being at Berkeley, blotches of beer connecting to my heard, I could smell colors I could taste sounds. I ask myself, has there ever been a player better than detlef schrempf? I dont know what planet he's from or what country he is about but watching him shoot the ball is absolutely unbelievable.
Dear ESPN: Please give more airtime to Bomani Jones! He is excellent!
And they actually have people saying this man played against Plummer’s lol
That's unbelievable that people say that. Utah, Cleveland, NY, Seattle, Orlando, Detroit, Indiana and San Antonio and Phoenix all had killer squads that would wreck almost any team today.
@@seanyoung9014 stop clowning lmao
@@Jc-xp8xp How am I wrong tho?
Jian C Everyone always says Lebron played against Golden State........ without realizing the Bulls were Golden State. Dumbasses
@@chandlerscaringia5260 And when LeBron was the "Warriors" or "Bulls" he only won 2/4, including the unforgivable loss vs Dallas.
I remember i was in 3rd grade when they played the bulls. I remember back then wanting them to win but deep down thinking that they weren’t going beat the bulls and Jordan but maybe they had a small chance.
Gatlin: Hey man thanks for puttin' your sac on my face...
Kemp: It's all good...see you next time
Gatlin: Fa sho..
LMAO!!!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
When talking about Nate he forgot to mention McMillan led the league in steals off the bench which has only been done by McMillan and nobody eles
They miss up when they traded Hershey Hawkins for Kendall Gill... Kendall Gill is underrated people forgot about how decent he was as a player
Hersey
Gill sucked in both 1st round bounces. Screw Gill.
Hershey?! 🤣
Ricky pierce too
Seattle to okc prbly the unluckiest/front office blunder in nba history
Love the way bomani jones gives great commentary need more of this
Hit like if u agree
We lost to the Nuggets up 2-0 snd Lakers one year
This was the team that _really_ got me into basketball. They were just highlight after highlight after highlight...okay, mostly Kemp, but I _loved_ the "dirty" way Payton played too. I'm still disappointed over '94; I seriously wanted to see how that Sonics team would've contended against Hakeem in a seven-game series, but we never got that.
Thanks for reminding us just how good and exciting , the Supersonics, with Payton, Kemp, et al. were.
Bulls don't win if McMillan wasn't hurt. McMillan was the point guard, team captain and best defensive player. People forget that Payton was not the heart and soul of the team. He always felt more like a secondary player until Kemp left. The team was well balanced with a different leading scorer every night.
The Sonics, the Suns, and Shaq with Penny Magic. I’d love to see those teams in today’s era with no hand checks.
honrable mention: the bulls were up by as much as 20 in game 6 and won by 12 just putting that out there
The Sonics weren't bulldozed. The Bulls shot poorly, but Rodman saved them with his rebounding.
Shawn Kemp = 23-ppg FG-55% Guarded by RODMAN
Gary Payton = 18-ppg FG-44% Guarded by JORDAN
Michael N. You cant save anything with rebounding you fool SMH
@Michael N. Losers always find a reason when they don't win
The '91 Bulls and the '92 Bulls would have beaten the '96 Bulls. What do you all think about that?
Yep. Without Rodman the Bulls don’t win another title... MJ or no MJ. They needed his rebounding and defense badly after Grant left.
George Karl should've greeted MJ and Ahmad in that restaurant LOL
Its laughable when they say the Bulls played no one in the Finals. Both Jazz teams, Sonics, and Suns won between 62-64 games the years they faced the Bulls in the Finals. The Bulls just made great teams look mediocre. The late 90s Jazz were to the Shaq and Kobe Lakers, as the Pistons were to MJ and Scottie's Bulls. The Jazz whooped on the Lakers every year, knocking them out the playoffs, until LA got over the hump, with Phil. Obv we know about the Sonics. That Suns team was well-balanced, as well as that Blazers squad. And the Lakers won 58 games in 1991 and beat said Blazers team.
grew up in ny in the 90's and becaise of the glove i was a sonics fan
"Seattle held Jordan to 27ppg in the finals, his lowest total in any finals"
Jesus Christ jordan was insane
and 27 vs that sonics team was like 31.....lets be real...no one could score on them in 96....hawkins payton kemp mcmillain and detlef had size ...tough team to score on
Loved the video man!!!
This is the era of my youth. Such an awesome and memorable era.
The NBA needs a Seattle Vs OKC rivalry. A truly hateful rivalry. Plenty of money to be made. Bring 'em back!
Michael Cage look like the character Jerome from Martin 😂😂😂
I needed this today
KEMP is the LBJ of the 90's. All power move to the basket. 💪💪💪
Kemp was a much better shooter than Lebron has ever been
@@DarknessFlameMedia yes, but Bronsexuals likes to claim that there's no one like Lefraud in the 90's. 🤣 just so they know, Lebum will just be another guy with no rings back in the days. 😁
But dunked with much more authority!!!
Remember this Sonic team took 2 games from that Bulls team and any other year they would have been the clear favorites to win the title that year 64 wins is among the best in NBA history
Kemp was my favourite player... the reason I was 40 in college.
People forget Rodman was huge in the Seattle series
Great team that Supersonics team! Us Pacers fans feel the pain of running into the Bulls with a great squad. That game 7 vs the Bulls hurt for us I won't lie, still does haha.
Sonics fan here. When Reggie curled and pushed off MJ (like MJ always did to everyone else) and drained that three... it is one of my favorite NBA moments.
Shawn G mike is BJ laughing at the Pacers bench when Paxson outclutched Miller.
@@TheSjuris lol. Not even part of the discussion. But ok.
Not putting GP on MJ for three games is one of the worst coaching decisions of all time
Sonics nahhhh my Knicks were the biggest roadblock. Those were eastern conference championships were better than any finals played in past 10 years
Kemp needs to be in the HOF hands down!
It’s stupid how Tracy above Gary, just because of the last dance, ha that list was trash, Hakeem not in top 10?
Gary Payton - 1x DPOY ( 1996 ), 9x All-Defensive First Team ( 1994-2002 ) >>>>>>>> T-Mac
Hersey Hawkins, 40 % 3 point shooter, detlef too, Perkins, even Kemp shot over 40% from 3 point line that year, McMillan, him too, that was a monster squad.
Derrick McKey played well in the playoffs as well.
@espn What is the music/beats used on this video, esp the intro?
Gary Payton blames George Karl because he doesn't want to take any of the blame. Karl said he didn't start Payton on Jordan because he needed Payton's scoring and was concerned about his injured hamstring. And the series could have gone differently if Payton had not **** the bed in games 1 & 2. Payton averaged 20 ppg that season but only managed 13 both games.
I just think Payton got the final jitters the first three games. And behind that trash talking persona, he wouldn't admit it. Had they have another go at the bulls the next year, it would have gone differently
@@lucky889s9 But, you see that's the problem for those Sonics teams and it's collection of great players who might get a bit nervous the first time in a sports championship finals: They don't play well or a huge superstar doesn't contribute significantly at certain points which comes back to doom the entire team to losing the series and some of them compensate with their huge, over-inflated egos saying "Well, we're a great team that has a great nucleus of core players, we'll be back". Well, says who? The 90'S NBA landscape, like it is now, were full of great HOF players with good supporting casts just waiting to knock you off your pedestal and get their chances to dethrone MJ's Bulls, which is exactly what Utah did for the next two seasons. After them, you had a still viable contending Rockets team, young up-and-coming Spurs squad that's going to get great very soon and be a pain in the was to even Jackson's Lakers teams for the next decade and a half, Lakers were a few years away from being the next best thing to a successor dynasty to MJ's Bulls, coached by the same guy, no less.
My point is: You don't know if your ever going to get back to a sports championship finals again, whether it's the NBA Finals, the World Series, Super Bowl, Stanley Cup, you take as much advantage of your opportunity to win a title and approach it, and play like it's the only one your team is ever going to be in. Gary Payton was lucky, he was able to appear in (and lose, but finally win one with Heat) other NBA Finals. George Karl, Shawn Kemp never got that chance, even if they came close respectively in their own individual ways as a player or an NBA HC.
Dan Marino assumed after the Dolphins got blown out in Super Bowl XIX by 49ers that due to his potent, powerhouse arm and record-setting, stats smashing season they'd be back several times for chances to win a few SBs. That seems silly and premature in retrospect, but from the logic of 1984, Miami had appeared and lost two SB's in the past 3 seasons, I'm sure Don Shula and co. as well as Marino thought that trend would continue. Except starting around by late 80s, Miami's FO never tried to invest too heavily in diversifying their offense or make the defense better. If Dan Marino had had Top 10 overall defenses most of his career, he probably wins a few of those games he loses to Buffalo or San Diego in playoffs throughout the 1990s even if Dolphins have a mediocre, just-above average running games.