Charles Barkley's best season with the Suns earned him the MVP. Jordan was still better | Bulldozed
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- On this episode of Bulldozed, Bomani Jones dissects the 1990s Phoenix Suns. Led by 1993 NBA MVP Charles Barkley and Kevin Johnson, the Suns' only playoff series against the Chicago Bulls featured Michael Jordan averaging 41 PPG to win a third straight NBA Finals.
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This series has been some of the best stuff ESPN has ever did.
💯💯💯
Still the bestv
I wish they could do more of this segment.
Charles might have beat MJ if it wasn't for those big ol' women in San Antonio
Lot of churros down there in texas.
@@Christopher-hy5pu Victoria's definitely a secret down there
weight watchers would make a gold mine down there with then big ole women
And they say, Jordan didn't beat nobody...Barkley, Reggie Miller and 90'S Utah Jazz would get 2RINGS each in this era,even Ewing could of won it last year 2019 over Toronto and GSW without DURANT
@@etxsports5836 those teams weren't great
I remember watching this series on TV. I was a Barkley/Suns fan but I knew deep down they wouldn't win. However, they should've won the 2 Houston series (even though Olajuwon was great). I don't feel bad about them losing to the Bulls. I feel bad about them losing to the Rockets.
Now you want to talk about the most underrated PG history - look no further than Kevin Johnson. A truly great player.
Yeah you are exactly right mobody ever mentions how good Kevin Johnson was.
KJ always gets overlooked. He´s another guy that played in the wrong era. He would have been looked at very differently had he played today where the point guard is looked upon to score first.
And those jordan haters say Suns was a weak team. Their record was 62-10 with chuck gettin the reg season MVP. KJ was one of the most athletic PG in that era and Dan Majerle was the Klay Thompson of the 90s.
Yep shows how MAGIC dominated the West all those years like JORDAN in the EAST, or Duncan or STEPH in the West over Westbrick,Damian Lillard Harden, Cp3 etc,etc...while it was stronger than the East
@@peterstark4562 1985-1999 Golden era:
1997 Miami Heat: 61-21.
Alonzo Mourning HoF,
Tim Hardaway - 5x All-star,
Dan Majerle - 3x All-star, 2x All-Defensive second Team.
P.J. Brown - 3x All-Defensive second Team.
Jamaal Mashburn - 1x All-star,
1998 Utah Jazz: 62-20.
In the Playoffs 1998, Karl Malone and Stockton destroyed the Lakers, 4 stars: Prime Shaq, Eddie Jones,
Nick Van-Exel and Kobe ( age 19 ), 4:0.
Spurs: David Robinson and 21-year-old Tim Duncan who was a star in 1998, 4:1.
1996 Orlando Magic: 60-22.
Shaquille O"Neal - HoF,
Penny Hardaway - 4x All-star,
1996 Sonics: 64-18.
Gary Payton - HoF,
Shawn Kemp - 6x All-star,
He was supposed to be in the Hall of Fame, but drugs ruined his career.
Detlef Schrempf - 3x All-star, 2x Nba Sixth Man of the Year,
Hersey Hawkins - 1x All-star,
Nate McMillan - 1x steals leader, 2x All-Defensive second Team.
1992 Blazers, 1993 Suns, 1994/95 Rockets, 1988/90 Pistons, 1985/1987 Celtics, 1998 Pacers,
Knicks: Patrick Ewing , Anthony Mason,
Cavs: Mark Price, Larry Nance, Brad Daugherty,
GSW: Mitch Richmond, Chris Mullin, Tim Hardaway,
Spurs: David Robinson, Seon Elliot,
I wonder if people who didn't see him play realize how great Barkley really was. This series is fantastic.
Nah. Charles Barkley rightfully deserves the 93 MVP although this was Jordan at his physical apex. The closest thing to a perfect player is Jordan in 91-93 & don't worry there are other players that comes close to being a virtually perfect player in specific season - (Hakeem, LeBron, Bird, Magic, Wilt, etc.) But A lot of people bring up Scottie Pippen winning only 2 games less the following season in 94. Well coming into the 93 season - The Bulls repeated in 92 & Jordan and Pippen immediately went into the olympics to perform on The Dream Team. Upon return they coasted the 93 season only winning 57 games. Had Jordan & Scottie probably not gone to the Olympics, the Bulls would've far surpassed 57 games that year.
I'm a lifelong Bulls fan who grew up during the dynasty and I agree. Malone in '97 was insane, but Barkley in '93 was the right choice.
Yup. Exactly. The Bulls underacheived in the regular season in 93 (on purpose), while overacheiving in 94.
Yawn. The TRUTH is Pippen was way more important to the BULLS WINNING GAMES. If Pippen had left in 93, the BULLS would have struggled to make the playoffs. Look what happened in 98 when Pippen missed about 30 games. Heck, look what happened in 94 when Pippen missed 10 games. The team went 3-7. Has Pippen not missed those games, they would have won 60 games. There's a lot more to basketball than just chucking up shots.
Emmanuel Enyinwa Jordan doesn’t just chuck up shots, why do you use stereotypes like that? You ain’t even watch MJ if you think like that MJ made the playoffs every year with or without Pippen they wouldn’t have struggled, Jordan was way more important than Pippen, if we talking about winning games we talk about the playoffs not the regular season, foh!
Emmanuel Enyinwa Pippen a quitter
Mario Elie's "Kiss of Death" is still one of the most savage moments in playoff history. It's up there with Iverson stepping over Ty Lou.
War eagle
Jordan was still better. But Suns did have the best overall best record that season at 62 - 20 and Bulls were second seed in the east. Meaning the voters took that into consideration.
Well Jordan did averaged 41PPG, 9RBS, 6ASSIST, on 50/40/69 and got FMVP
@@christianmorgan5956 i think he should've gotten MVP in 93 and 97 seasons. Seems voters back then tried to do anything to not give Jordan another MVP. And that finals performance is the best I've seen from 1 player in a finals series.
@@christianmorgan5956 he only shot 69% from the free throw line?! Wow I did not know that
@@clydetheglidetop5sgtop10du7 While shooting 40% from three. Very strange.
Exactly. Same reason Rose got MVP over Lebron. It’s hard to justify Jordan over Barkley as MVP when he had a worse record with better help.
Somebody show this to Draymond lol
To who ?
Boris The B1ad3 X Exactly to who???
@@tremain7056 is it Andre Draymond of the Pistons?
Draymond and his big mouth 🙄
Nash and Charles are 2 of the Greats i really wish have won even once
That dunk by Chambers at 1:22 is so underrated he was extremely athletic for a white boy lol
The Jordan 1s is like wearing Chuck Taylors in comfort and Michael Jordan was jumping out of the gym with them! So imagine if he got to benefit from his own brand of shoes' more advanced support these days?
MJ
What's ironic is while I was rooting for Chuck to win a chip, my first Jordans was the 7 Bordeaux I got for Christmas 92. I was in 6th grade that 1992-1993 season. Shaq's rookie year.
That's crazy cuz your stats are literally exactly as mine. Sixth grade from 92 to 93.
Thanks for adding Olajuwon's part. Those series were as close as it gets.
absolutely love this series i hope it continues
KJ was a beast
That was a good Suns team with KJ, Barkley, Majerle, Danny Ainge, Tom Chambers, Cedric Ceballos, and Frankie Johnson.
@TheRealist 811 Apparently they were all "plumbers and cashiers" and players born in the 90s and 2000s are all of a sudden "more genetically superior and evolved" than players born from the 60s-80s even though human evolution takes hundreds to millions of years to occur at the species level.
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6"3 Steve Nash - 2x MVP ( 2005, 2006 )
If Steve Nash won the MVP in the 90s, Lebron fans would say that white non-sports players dominated the 90s. Lebron fans are so stupid.
MJ=Black Jesus=GOAT!!!!!! 🐐🐐🐐
Chuck was a great player. I also admire his honesty about Jordan's greatness.
*3:42* - KJ with another one of his sick piggyback dunks. Like what he did to Dream.
How could you not love Barkley? Fantastic player no filter and hilarious
This era if you watch this kind of videos, you will see how toughed and even skilled they were, the athleticism and power they were putting everytime they steps on the court. They say todays nba is much more skillful??, kevin johnson, isiah thomas, tim and penny hardaway and othet guards were skillfull pgs and knew how to dribble as what you see in todays nba, charles as a bigman forward can shoots 3s off and on the dribble, shaq is very powerful,, i still believe that this era is the toughest, athletic and skillfull generation of nba, being fancy in dribbling and shooting more 3s cant make you skillfull and tough,,thats why mj is the goat cause he dominated this era.
Charles barkley: Breathes
Shaq:I HAVE 4 RINGS AND YOU HAVE NONE CHUCK!
And people dare to compare Donkey Green to Sir Charles Barkley!!!!
Blasphemous
I’m so with you !! All draymond does is open his big mouth too much
People forget how great that Suns team truly was. You had Barkley who was the MVP that year along with guys like Kevin Johnson and Dan Majerle who were all star caliber players combined with a good supporting cast. Remember they were the only team to have home court advantage over the Bulls in those finals as they actually finished with a better record then them that year. They were also probably the closet team to take the Bulls to 7 games in all those finals matchups. It took a Paxson game winner to end it in 6. It drives me crazy when idiots go "Jordan got to play the Suns in the finals" as if they weren't great competition lol.
For sure. Every team Jordan played was a great team. No doubt about it.
Barkley was a dawg man
War eagle Auburn tigers
It seems some NBA players true heights are a mystery 😂
A inch taller or shorter doesn't matter if you can't jump or run, basketball is about skills, even little STEPH won Rings over taller players...look at Curry man, so inspirational.
the 1993 suns went 6-7 at home and 7-4 on the road so 13-11 all together
Charles Barkley is one of my all time favorite players. That 1992-1993 Suns team is my favorite Suns team of all time..
He forgot about ceballos on Suns in 93
Bomani is the best host/narrator.
ESPN you do realize you can say one player is good without criticizing another player....
They love to start fights in the comment section
Man, I love my Jordan 7 Bordeaux Retros 2015 I got earlier this morning. They were barely used. The guy wasn't lying when he said he only wore them less than 3 times. So clean and new.
Had an og pair in 1994. Still my favorite Jordans.
Chuck deserved the MVP that year, was Steve Nash better than kobe when he won both his MVPs??? (NO)
Was Derrick Rose better than Lebron or KD ( NO)
Chris R exactly
Chris R D.Rose’s MVP is one of the most deserved ever. Without him that team would’ve been in the lottery not the playoffs
Chris R yes. He was
KJ is the most underrated point of the era and one of the most underrated ever.
A shame about his after-court life though.
Jordan was robbed of MVP in 1997, but Chuck deserved MVP in 1993.
Just like Isiah was in 1989 by Magic.
I love accurate information
Ask whoopy holding those flowers in the color purple. Little double og is trying to tell yall something 🔥🔥
10:44 Chuck was ripped!
KJ used to be my fav player. 93 was the only finals I didn't want MJ to win but then again I was 8 so..
My next Jordans will be the 13 Bred. I'm very specific. I don't want any white trimmings. I know I can always clean them off but whites get way dirtier the moment after you just cleaned them. I'm like Mike Tyson. I want black shoes.
I think 7 Bordeaux is my favorite shoe design ever. I actually put them back in the box. They're so clean. I'll buy used Jordans for $150 as my throwaways. Wear my 7s occasionally.
It irrates me when people say Jordan didn't play strong teams in the finals. This Sun's team was loaded.
2nd best team he faced imo (but it was also the weakest bulls team -- their depth was way worse than the 2nd 3-peat teams)
@@somerandomguy84 why weakest?
@@yaelgarcia459 Like they had to rely on Jordan to carry them compared to the other other title teams. Agree with you -- Suns were stacked and actually were the Vegas favorite going into playoffs that year
Puhleeze....this Suns squad was just as good in the 93-94 season and couldn't even bear Hakeem and a team of scrubs. Soft defensively and undersized
@@FuShengAlex they took him to 7 games tf you mean 🤣
If only 2K have agreed to Charle’s condition, they would’ve released a better computer game.
Jordan wasn't better than Barkley that year, he just had a better team. If you would've swooped Barkley and Jordan, Jordan would've beat Barkley with that Suns team. Barkley carried that overrated Suns team thru the West with his talent.
the 1996 sonics held michael jordan to 27.3 points per game in that series and their playoff record was 13-8
Charles Barkley was a legendary player
Yep, unfortunately for him, played in the Jordan era...and only HAKEEM took advantage of Jordan's retirement over Ewing,SHAQ, BARKLEY, Miller, STOCKTON and Malone with 94 and 95 RINGS..
1984 Draft is chosen top 3 drafts of all-time for a reason
@@etxsports5836 just like Jordan took advantage of Kareem's retirement and Larry Bird's back injury
@@melvynsngltn27
KAREEM got SWEPT by Dr.J and Moses Malone in 1983, Jordan defeated and outplayed BIRD as a amateur before even joining the league in 1984...put JORDAN on a .500 or better team and he swepts BIRD and Kareem...instead of the dope heads Bulls he was drafted to.
@@melvynsngltn27🤪🤪
@@melvynsngltn27Larry Bird was still very much playing when Jordan won his first two championships he was beat out of the second round by the Cleveland cavaliers in 92 and I'm not sure who beat them in 91 but they were beaten
Around the 2 minute mark in the video you were mentioning Jeff Hornacek. And you said he embarrassed the organization(Suns) by getting punched by Stackhouse, causing the organization to trade Hornacek away in 1992 to acquire Charles Barkley. So the issue with this is that Stackhouse was drafted in 1995….
The most exciting Bulls finals of all the six. And one of my favourite 90s franchise player not named MJ. Suns had Barkley, KJ and Majerle. Always felt the only thing they lacked was a strong center. It would have helped greatly.
No way . The suns series was boring. The Bulls were up 2-0 then 3-1 . The best of the Bulls Finals was the first Jazz series. 2-2 series then in game 5 the Jazz was up by 16 and then the Bulls with Jordan having the flu pulled out game 5 . That was the best series
Barkley with a leaner dunk.....very nice
the 1993 knicks went up 2-0 on the pacers and hornets in rounds 1 and 2 before winning 3-1 and 4-1 to go 7-2 before facing the bulls in round 3
Barkley was better during the regular season, it's why he won the MVP, However he and his team were knew to the finals and that pressure and were playing one of the greatest teams in history with the greatest player in history who also happened to be by far the greatest clutch player of all time. Sir Charles was THE man that season.
I can't wait for the Portland Trail Blazers episode
Barkley SHOULD have won a championship. However! During the 90s many a good player went home to retirement without one. Including Ewing.
He blew the series to Houston
Came to the Suns games for Charles Barkley, stayed for Richard Dumas. So much potential... talk about a sad story.
Bomani disparages Kevin johnson yet sings nothing but praises of Kobe. This is literally all you need to know about who Bomani Jones is as a person.
Brand new Jordan 7 Bordeaux Retros 2015 go for $350 for a size 10 that I am on StockX. It rounds out to $374. So me paying $250 saved me $124. And I got to wear them before purchase.
The season I hated Michael Jordan. Probably because of The Jordan Rules and overexposure. But I can make an argument it was MJ's best season after what the media put him through.
I can't be addicted to sneakers the way Montrezl or Shannon Sharpe are. I'd be totally broke by the 6th pair. Montrezl gets them custom-made. He owns 3000 pairs of shoes. He's the Imelda Marcos 🇵🇭 of the NBA... 🤣
MJ dropping 41 PPG in the 1993 Finals and he was wearing Jordan 8s which aren't exactly light on the feet. They felt heavy like the 6s. That's why he's the GOAT. It's pretty obvious people are obsessed with him, his shoes, or both.
G B right. My man Bron put up a 35 pt triple double on KEVIN DURANT. Or how about 34 a game being guarded often by DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR DRAYMOND.
G B he still dropped 41 points on efficient shooting, you got to give credit that..
Eric Tynes he also drop 17.8 on JASON Terry lmao we talking bout MJ stop bring lebron up, he’s out his league...
@@erictynes265
6"2 Jason Terry outplayed Prime Lebron James in the 2011 Nba Finals.
So 11:00 was the birth of "Guaranteed!" :)
People say buy a half size down on the 7s. I decided true to size because the 2011 are wider than the 2015. I'm glad I went for 10 and not 9.5. Also, our feet will flatten as we get older.
MJ rarely got hurt and he played in a more physical era. Only in 1986 and 2002 did he fail to play a minimum 70 games. Can't count 1995. So imagine now with the better shoe cushioning and the sissy rules implemented today?
If Dumus would have kept a level head the Suns would've won 2 Chips
Charles Barkley actually thought he had a chance to get a ring that year😂
I was watching Complex with Eminem. You would think coming from Detroit, he'd hate Michael Jordan. Nope. He said it very simply. "It's still Jordan."
Mj took it personal. He dropped 50’s vs suns
I remember that Mario Ellie shot back when I was living in Houston. Granted I was only like 4 or 5 years old. But I remember it so vividly cause my parents went ballistic when he made the shot
Dan Majerle the real white man can jump
Surprised you didn't mention Tom Chambers he had some crazy dunks
At 3:09 he did that boy dirty..
It's hindsight bias to say Jordan should have won this MVP. The Suns had the best record in the league at 62-20, which was the best in the league and won 9 more games compared to the previous season because they added Barkley to the roster. The Bulls went only 57-25, which wasn't even the best record in the East, and 10 less wins than the previous season. While the Sun were a pretty talented team, Pippen was pretty clearly better than any player that Barkley had and Michael had a really good supporting cast.
Nothing against Jordan's season, he was the better player when it was all said and done, but it wouldn't say it was a clear snub with Barkley winning the regular season MVP. There were other worse snubs in NBA history like Iverson over Shaq in 2001.
28 other teams, because from 2004 we have 30 teams :D
They should've put Barkley on Jordan.
What's crazy is imagine if Michael Jordan played today with all the advanced nutrition, training, medical staff and shoe tech? The more recent Jordans are more comfortable than 1-14. MJ would be even better today.
He would have dominated without modern technology.
I am convinced that Michael Jordan will dominate the league in which players with low stature gain an average of 30-ppg ( 5"8 Isiah Thomas, 6"3 Bradley Beal ), in the league in which the 21-year-old unsportsmanlike
6"1 Trae Young scores an average of 30-ppg.
Charle Barkley has won MVP? Ok, fine. THEN IT BECAME PERSONAL!!!!
To be fair, I have the utmost respect for Sir Charles Barkley, one of the best player to watch. He was AMAZING!
theres a trend in these videos......if mj didnt get ya then the dream did
This dude best narrator ever
Majerle did NOT have fan favorite written all over him, it took him a while to earn that. When Phoenix drafted him, they got boo'ed pretty badly.
More physicality in this video then in the last 2 decades of this era and not one badboy Pistons video involved in this lol
looked nothing like his name indicated; looked exactly liked his name indicated 😂😂😂
Pristine content Bomani, bless.
Jordan was better you mean jordan wasnt the best.MJ:That fueled a fire in me and it became personal
Walter Davis was a bad man people and so was kj
This is why that stupid argument of Lebron playing vs more hofers than Jordan is ridiculous. Kevin Johnson and Chambers from the Suns Mark Price Larry Nance and Brad Daugherty from the Cavs Kemp and Shrempf from the Sonics and Penny Hardaway from the Magic should all be HOFers
Barkley had a handful of years better than his MVP year. I don't know how he won it over MJ in 93.
Don’t disrespect Chuck, in his prime he’s the 2nd best power forward of all time, after Tim Duncan, with all respect to Malone it’s just my opinion.
I would say charles is better at that season. But jordan had a better team
I think we need two more series like this once Lebron and Steph retire. Those guys prevented numerous guys from winning rings too. Kobe and Duncan too.
Michael Jordan had a better team around him then Charles Barkley did in Phoenix Barkley didn’t have a Scottie Pippen Jordan had better teams
the 1996 sonics fell down 3-0 to the bulls and lost games 1 2 3 and 6 by 17 4 22 and 12 so a combined 55 points
The suns were arguably Jordan’s best competition for a championship they were loaded and don’t get enough credit
They werent that loaded basically the same exact Phoenix squad the following season couldn't beat Olajuwon and a bunch of role players.
Suns historically......great on offense.....lousy on defense.
@@FuShengAlex Naw, they lost Chambers, Dumas, and Chuck dipped after 93'. They went 10 deep forsure.
@@PhilBurr100 Chuck had the highest game score ever for a playoff series vs golden st in the round before Houston he had a 56 point game to close the series. Not to mention KJ was actually healthy in 94. He was very banged up in 93 and missed almost half the season injured.
Phoenix was loaded but they needed another superstar like Barkley. They had a ton of great players/low level all stars. They lacked another true superstar.
@@FuShengAlex very true
What does Bomani have against Jeff Hornacek? For real, watch the Utah Bulldozed video.
I’ve been told a few times that my voice is similar to Bomani Jones.
Barkley > Zion.
Anyone wanna argue?
It’s a no brainer !! So no argueing here
Zion has the same build!
Crazy thing is zions a lot heavier and still more athletic
@@forthe3136 💯
for the 3 Yeah well Zion ain’t the rebounder, passer, or defender that Barkley was
for the 3
And a walking injury though
11:02 Doesn’t Chuck mean “AC Green… GUAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRAAAAAAAANNNNNTEEEEEEE a win!!!”
Jordan was robbed of MVP he showed Barkley and the whole league who the MVP was
the 1997 jazz played the bulls real well in round 4 but not as well as the 1998 pacers lost 1992 cavs and both the 1992 and 1993 knicks
Intro song?
ESPN still reminding y’all who the GOAT Is.....M.j
Then they bragged Charles of how he not get any ring. I dont know whos first before Charles was but Charles was first before AI and did they make they name in the league. Pure talent.
When y'all going to do when on the great Hakeem olajuwon treating the bulls in the early 90s like the like little fellas
That's regular season