Dragon Ball Kakumei: A Worthy Sequel to Super

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  • Thank you all so much for watching! Please Consider Liking, Commenting, and Subscribing for more content in the future!
    I’ve been holding this one in for a long time, Kakumei stands as a fanwork that impresses me more than others because of everything I bring up in this video and well that’s it. Although I wouldn’t consider sitting down to rewatch DBS I am glad this work came to life from its concepts and ideas. For that I am grateful.
    Music In Order:
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    You May Call Me Marth - Fire Emblem Awakening
    Road Taken (Calm) - Fire Emblem Fates
    Faded Memories - Huang
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  • @maliksyv6056
    @maliksyv6056  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Thank you for watching. Please consider subscribing for more content in the future! Also, Vegeta does tell the Universe 6 Saiyans he’s their Prince upon landing but it really didn’t make sense at all. So much for not trying to lord over them, glad that stopped after a while.
    Edit: I want to clarify something about this video’s title and ethos. When highlighting the worthiness of this story as a sequel the concepts introduced and character direction is what I see as worthy not the story as a whole. I definitely appreciate qualities of this story but saying the whole thing is a perfect story is something I should’ve definitely communicated.
    I think having the Earthlings reintroduced into a more prevalent role is great and using Goku’s capture/the Multiversal war made that reintroduction make sense. Expanding on Universe Six and Eleven also follow this vision well too. Goten and Trunks’ plot thread is something I stand behind wholeheartedly though I do think it’s pretty good.
    Gathering what I did from the conversation I had with one of you guys in the comments and the reasoning many of you offer I can see the points you makes and that they are valid. I should’ve taken more of an appreciation of the conceptual aspects for this video and emphasized those because this story doesn’t feel like original Dragon Ball, yes. However, to me Super just didn’t feel like original DB to me either. Kakumei’s concepts and ideas are really compelling but I’d be lying if at times when reading this story it felt very different from the main storytelling, ideology and heart of the original series that had ended in 1995.
    In closing, after reassessing my thoughts on Kakumei thanks to all of your added perspectives, I think it is a great sequel because it expands on concepts and characters in Super really well. The core of its direction and storytelling is fundamentally different and not like the original Dragon Ball.
    Although, I will admit that as a fan work it could be trying to do something different which I respect wholeheartedly. The artwork is an upfront sign of this and one of the reasons I respect it. This is why it’s “worthy” not perfect by any means.

  • @ashuraomega1000
    @ashuraomega1000 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +163

    The only problem i have with Kakumei is that the pacing is all over the place, it can get really confusing to follow sometimes

    • @jaden.4K
      @jaden.4K 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      I think that’s true when you only get an entry every once in a while, but I bet once it’s finished it will flow very nicely

  • @TurtleMan200
    @TurtleMan200 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +78

    While I agree Kakumei is a FANTASTIC fan project, and probably my favourite fan project ever, if it were in the place of super, or a sequel to super, that would be awful. Especially since it's not in the same direction that Dragon ball super is heading. It is a fun idea, and would maybe be a great spin-off multiverse type story, but, if this was main canon, I personally think it wouldn't really be THAT good.

    • @halftimebeing6401
      @halftimebeing6401 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      And you like the current super manga more? With it´s underutilasation of like 90% of the cast and weird written villans and new characters like in the Granola Arc? Because I personally don´t like how Black freeza for example comes out of nowhere and is the strongest character in the series. In any other manga story parts like this would be ripped to shreds on the internet, just look at jjk.

    • @alis7763
      @alis7763 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nah I want it to be canon IT IS canon in my head

    • @TurtleMan200
      @TurtleMan200 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@halftimebeing6401 I agree I'm not the greatest fan of the super manga, I still personally like it more than Kakumei as a canon story. I'm not saying Kakumei is bad at all, it's a great fan story, but I'll still take the super manga over Kakumei every day of the week

    • @TurtleMan200
      @TurtleMan200 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@alis7763 W cope

  • @Dr.PaiPai
    @Dr.PaiPai 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +155

    Vegeta did not renounce his rivalry with Goku. He only accepted that Goku was better than him, but accepting that doesn't mean he's going to stop pushing himself and continue his rivalry.

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

      Yeah I know I said I misinterpreted this on the image I used if you rewatch the part I bring it up at.

    • @sky-oq5mr
      @sky-oq5mr 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He did renounce it in Z. It was pointless

    • @Dr.PaiPai
      @Dr.PaiPai 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      @sky-oq5mr No, he didn't.
      He only accepted that Goku was better than him. You can accept another person is better than you at something but you can use that as motivation for yourself.
      That isn't the same as renouncing.

  • @GoozyGang
    @GoozyGang 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +82

    2:49 I don’t get how people really think that Goku would just kill all those people. They definitely were just uninhabited moons and planets.

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      fax in hindsight I was like yeah he definitely wouldn't kill innocent people.

    • @GoozyGang
      @GoozyGang 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@maliksyv6056 W video tho, you planning on making one for New Hope?

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @GoozyGang Maybe if it strikes me. I upload what I want and as of rn, I got a schedule written down for what I want to upload. I had an idea for discussing the possible Frieza redemption after seeing TotallyNotMark's most recent video.

    • @azimuddin1890
      @azimuddin1890 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Agreed! I had the same thought, I doubt the writer wrote that.

    • @flyingchairguy2221
      @flyingchairguy2221 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      specially since uni 7 has one of the lower planets with life counts. high likelyhood for most planets to be deserted.

  • @diegoantoniofrias9309
    @diegoantoniofrias9309 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    Where's the Satire? Where's the Parody?
    How am I supposed to enjoy a Dragon Ball Story without Comedy?

    • @overaxel9498
      @overaxel9498 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Dragon ball hasn’t been comedic focused ever since the og series idk where this is coming from

    • @diegoantoniofrias9309
      @diegoantoniofrias9309 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@overaxel9498 But they did the "My Wish is to be 5 centimeters taller" joke from OG Dragon Ball again but with Frieza, funniest shit i have ever seen

    • @diegoantoniofrias9309
      @diegoantoniofrias9309 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@overaxel9498 Every major DB movie nowadays is filled with jokes, that was something that the older movies didn't do

    • @sidecharacter3193
      @sidecharacter3193 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      @@diegoantoniofrias9309
      Drunk roshi in the broly movie
      Krillins bald head saving him in bojack
      Krillin flirting with zangya in bojack
      Trunks pissing on broly
      Veku in fusion reborn
      Those are just of the top of my head. I call bs saying the old movies didn’t have jokes

    • @diegoantoniofrias9309
      @diegoantoniofrias9309 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@sidecharacter3193 And that why those are some of the few pre-Bog Movies that actually matter

  • @doodguytheblank2403
    @doodguytheblank2403 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    The biggest downside I found with Kakumei was that since there’s more characters then ever to focus on that it felt really scatter brained reading it, especially when only a couple of them really went anywhere.

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Definitely at times o found myself lost in navigating the story and the pacing in some places is rather poor

    • @thomasdeen2099
      @thomasdeen2099 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's only starting out though, likely we're gonna see Gohan, Goten, and Trunks' perspectives for the next arcs.

    • @EmperorVegeta0204
      @EmperorVegeta0204 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It reminds me of those big DC comic events where there are like 6 different comic series related to the same event, and the only way to truly understand the story is to read everything. I dont't hate it, but it can be annoying at times.

  • @thelettucebarrel7784
    @thelettucebarrel7784 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    Idk, I think Kakumei is carried by the art. The story is so weirdly edgy sometimes and feels *very* fanficcy. Nowhere near as good as the actual canon material.

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I can see that too and I do agree the writing at times does get too outta hand especially dialogue

    • @sebastianuglyrat
      @sebastianuglyrat 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      The fanfic feels like a fanfic!? 😱😱😱😱

    • @thelettucebarrel7784
      @thelettucebarrel7784 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@sebastianuglyrat You know exactly what I meant by that, goober.

    • @gelatogremlin
      @gelatogremlin 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Im sorry ive seen this critisim a few times I have to reply, In terms of how fanfic-y it is compared to Super? I mean, if we're reallyy looking at Super: it introduced this whole hierarchy of gods (kami > kai > supreme kai ) for the gods of creation and just here comes this sole king god of destruction and then had one super divine being training them. Then we get other universes, but the first one we see is basically a copy of Universe 7 their Saiyans and all messing up the power scaling even more. Hit was cool and unique, though.
      Next, we learn the angels are all siblings, with the Grand Priest above them, and then there's the Omni-King who’s got super-strong bodyguards. Then came the Zamasu arc: an evil Kai and a 'bad Goku' plotline? fanfic vibes everywhere. And don’t get me started on the Jiren 'OC insert' memes. and then the moro arc with a whole angel fighting with the mortals. And the god of destruction vegeta / angel Goku vs Ppl using the dragon balls to be the strongest in the universe all of a sudden.
      Kakumei has its fanfic moments, sure, like the Mother of Angels, but it's building on Super’s setup. A Saiyan king and giving vegeta a saiyan army? Makes sense, the universe saiyans are just sitting around in canon. The Tuffle-Saiyan hybrid was fanfic-y ill give ppl dat, but the idea of Goku being captured and needing rescue was refreshing at the time before the meme. Besides its edgyness Kakumei just expands on plots Super sort of teased or just let go no where.(Like with most of the characters focused on right now or 17's whole Wish in general.) Most ppl argue Kakumei has been better than Super’s post broly manga. 🤷

    • @thelettucebarrel7784
      @thelettucebarrel7784 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@gelatogremlin Not reading all of that.

  • @CyberFunk6267
    @CyberFunk6267 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Not really a fan of it and I wouldn’t call it better or a worthy sequel.
    Like them killing off Cheelai for Broly’s power up, or Vegeta knocking Caulifla out cuz she wouldn’t shut up.
    Also…
    >Constant Callbacks to Z: I get the bringing back Frieza argument, but Broly and Cell Max are legit separate characters… Broly is also an entirely different and better character from his Z counterpart.

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I know that they are different characters for sure but the ideas and concepts originate in Z which is what I hate personally. Like Cell to Cell Max is such a downgrade when making a new android design was something that they did with the Gammas. A worse rehash for no reason. Broly is a different and likable character to me, but I hate the reuse of ideas that have characters attached to them to make stuff canon because they can't be bothered to make original villains for the movies. Cell Max is a creatively bankrupt idea and concept. He's literally Cell's 2nd form with that rages like probably and can now bust universes all for the awakening of Beast Gohan. So for ranting but yeah.

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Also yeah, the Caulifla thing was definitely dramatic but killing someone dear for a rage boost isn't new it's legit what leads to Goku's transformation so I don't see it being out there at all.

    • @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle
      @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      THEY FRIDGED CHEELAI?
      And I thought it couldn't get more cliche

    • @CyberFunk6267
      @CyberFunk6267 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@maliksyv6056 Yeah and Goku’s Gohan’s SS2 transformation after killing someone leading up to a rage boost is the only time it ever happens…
      Also hop off DBS Broly he’s way better than Z Broly-

    • @CyberFunk6267
      @CyberFunk6267 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle I’m pretty sure they don’t ever bring her back either-

  • @aluzion2616
    @aluzion2616 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    You like it ?
    It's normal, it's French. 🇫🇷

  • @divineshrek3307
    @divineshrek3307 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Reenko literally has the art to fully make their own manga and probably make it one of the most memorable ones.

  • @DoomMishima
    @DoomMishima 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I'm not a fan, seems like the writer is just doubling down on making Goku a dumbass psycho, which is what I hated most about Super.

  • @drcjtonkin
    @drcjtonkin วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    My only problem with kakumei is that I feel like things like ue, granola, Moro Beast Gohan etc could’ve had so much potential for cool concepts in db Kakumei but they stated there not gonna add any super content after dbs broly into it

  • @montesoul
    @montesoul 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This manga is always my example of a fanbase refuses to outgrow their childhood. Dragon Ball is a action comedy shonen made for japanese pre teen boys. This hyper violent take is a desire to turn "age it" WITH the aging fanbase. Kakumei is trying to be Dragon Ball for 30 year olds..

  • @Leviathan1000
    @Leviathan1000 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +68

    I think it's better then canon and the art just wow, REENKO is probably the best fan artist out there.

    • @SPAFANG
      @SPAFANG 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Pure fan service

    • @hashi.
      @hashi. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      i love his art but in my opinion it does not fit dragon ball's simplistic designs it feels very seinen

    • @ODINSON14
      @ODINSON14 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Poissinlabo is the artist

    • @Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman
      @Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@hashi.As it should be

    • @gal_gorilla
      @gal_gorilla 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Let’s hope he gets toyotaroed

  • @DaniG._.German
    @DaniG._.German 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    1:08 the fact that Vegeta is wearing his armor again.

  • @jeremiahthompson243
    @jeremiahthompson243 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Definitely better than super imo the first fights between goku and beerus beats anything super has done imo and the first arc is better than every super arc imo

  • @AtomicOwl
    @AtomicOwl 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    I would love to see you cover this manga again in the future

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      When it finishes I most likely will. Thank you for watching!

  • @Champsr0ck2247
    @Champsr0ck2247 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Cool ideas, eh execution. Kinda like Super overall so that must be why you said its a worthy sequel

  • @PegasusPablo
    @PegasusPablo 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    10:45 that right there is where I liked your video.

  • @DewMan31
    @DewMan31 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    My favorite scene in Dragon Ball Super is when Goku is training by himself, shadow boxing style. What makes the scene so special is that he's recounting his last fight with his grandpa. Even despite all of super's flaws, this is one of the most special moments in the series to me.

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      You’re right it’s one of the most beautiful scenes in the show. Thank you for watching.

  • @NIKEONXX
    @NIKEONXX 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don't like the story and what happens in it at all. It dosn't feel like Dragon Ball to me.
    The Art is fantastic though and i really respect Poisson Labo's work.

  • @wander7812
    @wander7812 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    When I first heard of Kakumei, I thought "Oh just another edgy DBZ fanfic with mid writing that the fandom gonna endorse anyways and then forget abt it in 3 weeks, cuz its mid."
    Now years later, Im happy that I was wrong. The story looks interresting and honestly the DB Fandom need less slop of Fanfics/What-Ifs anyways.
    About the powerscalling of DBZ though - I think there is a way to make everyone at least somewhat relevant again! But that would take going back to the Battle of Gods, and erasing Revival of F while rewriting the entirely of DBS.
    Simply make it so all the saiyans in the God ritual got a little bit of God Ki, which is already implied to be a boost, and it could also be passed down to anyone in close proximity.
    Then just like Master Roshi, find some way to make the other Humans (and Piccolo) be able to live as many years as the Saiyans, so they can train in the Time Chamber.
    Theres the fact that Yamcha could still move in Vegeta's increase gravity, so there is room to grow either way.
    Even if all of what I said is impossible, Humans could endorse the spirit of the DB Classic and have gimmicky techniques that help the fight indirectly, such as Mafuba, or Destructive Disc which was always much stronger than the user itself.
    The fact that the Humans from DBS could rock the heck out of Perfect Cell, and the Hybrid-Saiyans potential, means that DBZ is never about "Who's stronger", simply "Who's can get stronger FASTER"

  • @daith_izumi
    @daith_izumi 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    New Hope, Multiverse, the one that made a wayyy better ending for the Goku Black arc, and the ones about Future Gohan are my favorites. The only thing I liked about Kakumei was Goten and Trunks attaining Super Saiyan God

  • @rafikitheafricanpimp7173
    @rafikitheafricanpimp7173 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    this manga is so hated on twitter i literally have no idea why 😂

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Neither do I

    • @RayCisman-cm6eu
      @RayCisman-cm6eu 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

      It's hated because people keep comparing it to super and saying it's better than super which doesn't sit right with a lot of fans

    • @husariuspl117
      @husariuspl117 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      personally I just don't vibe with it
      some of the choices make DBS infamous moments seem better
      like the whole Goku being trapped, which became a meme at this point
      and it's brutality feels...a bit much, like why do we need a whole look at Cabba's heart ripped out? That doesn't feel like Dragon Ball

    • @zayisthatguy
      @zayisthatguy 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ⁠@@husariuspl117we’ve had plenty of high stakes db fan mangas you should be used to this by now 💀

    • @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle
      @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Here is why: It doesn't feel anything like dragon ball, it's too edgy and serious, it just doesn't has any of the lightweight stuff that made Dragon Ball what it is, it feels like it was made by and for people that only saw edits of the rare times Goku was serious and Mandella Effect havers
      That wouldn't be a problem, really, the thing that pushes the camel out of the ravine is that people keep acting like this is what peak dragon ball is, saying it's better than super, yada yada yada, when the only thing Dragon Ball on it are the characters and setting.

  • @TrueReverse74
    @TrueReverse74 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Love this video, You spoke all my thoughts, One thing I will say, Is that I think super's manga has managed to pick itself back up mostly and I hope they aren't afraid to use some of the ideas that they introduced, like Moro, Lord of lords residing in buu, Merus, Cerelians (A race of snipers is just cool as hell) and the heeters, Ultra Ego, Power awakening/Orange I'd like to not shy away from that stuff even if they'd have to rewrite the way they are introduced into the story. But overall Kakumei actually uses the character's history to it's fullest extent, I've always wanted goten and trunks to do something out of fusion even though I love their fusion techniques, them being heroes and swordmasters like in the dragon ball online lore was always the play to me. Gohan finally progressing after 2 decades of nothing. The humans trying to find something special about themselves. Vegeta FINALLY going to sadala, reintroducing tuffles, even going back to the demon realm. They are all doing something to enhance what has already came before and I for one love it all. It actually feels like they are capitalizing on dragon ball's potential.

  • @KonEl17
    @KonEl17 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    For a DB fan takin shots at Toriyama call it lazy or the usage of Goten and Trunks seems a bit disrespectful. Super deserves it's criticism though. I never heard anyone have an issue with Gohan potential boost in Namek or any other power up shenanigans.

    • @gelatogremlin
      @gelatogremlin 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      disrespectful is crazy, nun wrong with giving criticisms fr

  • @Rat-x8c
    @Rat-x8c วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    WHY IS THIS SO LOUD
    GOT JUMPSCARED😭😭😭 2:09

  • @JVoltage4
    @JVoltage4 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    New Hope has been my favorite. A lot of reused art but the story is fantastic

  • @sngomi
    @sngomi 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    that ff13 sound effect at 5:52 suprised me lool

  • @drxpgodxx487
    @drxpgodxx487 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Tbh the story is kinda meh but I really love the art

  • @simondullate9654
    @simondullate9654 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I like it. I haven’t gone too far into the manga yet but as long as they don’t make Goku dumber than he already is in super, then I’d say that this would easily be my favorite fan manga.

  • @LizardKingRequiem
    @LizardKingRequiem 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Its always fascinating to see how the time a fan manga is made/started always affects it heavily. The way that multiverse is pre-battle of gods and works off of that original canon, and then how kakumei was started before we got ultra ego and beast and orange which are all kinda game changers for these characters. But ofc kakumei is still peak and frankly… better than canon lmao

    • @hashi.
      @hashi. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      pretty sure kakumei started the same month ultra ego dropped in the manga

    • @LizardKingRequiem
      @LizardKingRequiem 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@hashi. which means they had laid the groundwork for the story (presumably) without factoring in the ultra ego path and character development

    • @hashi.
      @hashi. 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@LizardKingRequiem yeah but vegeta was never on the path of ultra instinct after the tournament of power so it makes no sense for him to be unlocking it in kakumei

  • @benjaminschneider9147
    @benjaminschneider9147 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    2:55 Goku can sense life on planets (90% of planets don’t have life)

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah Ik

  • @MuchMoneyy
    @MuchMoneyy 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yoo great vid man! Really good editing, only critcism i have is that the sound effects you added for images appearing and such are very loud and made it hard to hear your voice, due to how much i had to turn the volume down

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Gotchu I’ll tune down the sfx. Thank you for the advice and for watching

  • @hystericalakamega
    @hystericalakamega 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Vegeta never gave up the rivalry all he did was admit goiu is better than him even in dragon ball z final chapter he says "SOMEDAY, I SHALL BE THE ONE WHO WILL DEFEAT YOU, KAKARROT"

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Please watch the video where I bring this up the image has I misinterpreted this on it.

    • @hystericalakamega
      @hystericalakamega 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@maliksyv6056 yeah that's my fault I should probably watch the full video first 🤦

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hystericalakamega aight

  • @laurentiuslancaster1657
    @laurentiuslancaster1657 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    9:40 This is one thing I disagree with, Picollo has been training mentally and physically all the time throughout the events in Super. He hasn't been lax and has always readied himself for whatever new threats may arise. He always tells Gohan that Goku and Vegeta won't always be there to save the day. I say Orange Picollo is a well-worth transformation nowhere near as much of an asspull as Beast is. He has been hardworking this entire time, it just isn't shown much or is merely on the backdrop.

  • @freakinduck
    @freakinduck 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Super isnt even over

  • @GreatVideosOfLeo
    @GreatVideosOfLeo 54 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    I think some of these fan mangas fail to capture the humor and the feel-good vibes of reading dragon ball that Toriyama brought

  • @thoni9084
    @thoni9084 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    A wOrThY sEqUeL tO sUpEr, While it doesn't capture the essence of "dragon ball".

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Define the essence of Dragon Ball from your perspective. I wanna know what you think.

    • @thoni9084
      @thoni9084 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

      @@maliksyv6056 First, my opinion that I wrote above is purely from objectivity.
      I will give some examples for this discussion.
      1. Design, the "simplicity" of the character design of Dragon Ball that the author of DBK failed to convey. Even SDBH which is only for fanservice still captures the "simplicity" of the character design of Dragon Ball.
      2. Paneling, I know imitating Toriyama Sensei in this field is impossible because of how good he is. But at least Toyotaro Sensei developed in this context, while the author of DB?.
      3. Tone, even Toyble's DB AF still feels like a natural extension of GT, while DBK doesn't feel like a natural extension of DBS.
      4. Taoism/Daoism, the author of DBK didn't even write DBK from a Taoism/Daoism perspective like the original. For example, like the difference in the concept of egoism in the Western and Eastern worlds.
      5. Genre, "Dragon Ball" is not shonen in the traditional sense. but rather falls into a "Wuxia" genre, that's why Ki/Chi is not a "power system". this is what the author of dbk didn't realize.
      actually there are many other problems but it seems like it's just a matter of the lack of "western" knowledge about "eastern" philosophy.

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@thoni9084 I can definitely see what you’re saying with these criticisms and I totally understand it. However, when making this video it was focused on the concepts and ideas introduced by Dragon Ball Super that I enjoyed when picking up this work and why I think it’s a worthy sequel.
      While it may not take on these aspects that you bring up in the same vain as the original which I will agree with it addresses different things more central to the characters in the universe as I explained in the video.
      I can agree it’s tone is definitely different from the original but I can’t really hold anything against the art because if they want to make it in their own style I think they have every right to.
      This story is a character focused one. It puts Goku in a position where the characters have to rely on themselves for the most part something Super didn’t do. It gives Vegeta growth that felt exceptionally natural. Offers the Earthlings a role better than Super canon and give Gohan natural progression. It gives more characterization to the characters from other universes as well and the other erased universes they introduced.
      Again while this series doesn’t fill everything you brought up and the storytelling can have an edge to it at times, I don’t discredit for it anting to do something different which is something Super does. Dragon Ball to me has always been a story with darker elements and serious messaging to it with a relatively light tone that balances it out. I think that is what makes Dragon Ball so good the ability to balance those two aspects so perfectly and what makes Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball. Overall, this story focuses on something different. It focuses on concepts introduced by Dragon Ball Super and extends on them. Whether you see it as Dragon Ball or not is perfectly fine but I believe it inherits the characters from the original pretty well and gives them unique struggles to deal with which balance out the more serious tones something like Super had. I appreciate your explanation for your complaints which I respect and believe some are definitely valid.

    • @thoni9084
      @thoni9084 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@maliksyv6056 the simplest problem with dbk is that what the characters do in dbk is only there to satisfy headcanon and not act as close to the original characters as possible. as a fan made comic with interesting ideas dbk certainly has them, but to blatantly remove the "poison" from the characters in the original is clearly missing the root of what makes dragon ball an art form that is accepted worldwide.

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@thoni9084 I definitely see what you mean but in comparison to the extension given to us in super I do see it as an upgrade. It’s natural that this headcanon stuff would be a part of this fan work as well. None of the characters feel too out of character for me and the story rationalizes why they get somewhere and how they go about things.
      I don’t think they betray the characters’ “poison” per se but sees the arcs they’ve undergone and try to show how post TOP life is for them. How long does the “poison” need to be in the characters? Can they not be more than that “poison”? Does the “poison” define who they are? This story in a way tries to answer those questions. Gohan wants to find a compromise with his studies (granted not much is shown so the point is moot). Vegeta can show respect to another saiyans less powerful than him because he has respect for what the planet values. (This reminds me of Vegeta’s growth shown in the Morro arc when he saved the Namekian child). Krillin having his setback when looking at his uselessness in the wider story post original Dragon Ball and deciding not to fight initially with a few other examples. Something reminiscent of his hesitation pre ToP.
      If I’m wrong about the “poison” you’re referring I’m all ears on what you’re talking about in specific but stuff like Vegeta taking charge of the Saiyans on Sadala in the way he did is something I see as pretty reasonable considering what he never had. (Him powering up to grab Caulifla’s hair was stupid ngl, also not too much a fan of her characterization at all. Like she’s a gorilla or something no pun intended).

  • @taecampus
    @taecampus 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video. 👍

  • @DylanJayFox
    @DylanJayFox 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Where can I read Kakumei?

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Mangadraft

  • @timdoe8895
    @timdoe8895 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Bro they locked Goku up in the time chamber. Lol. Stop it.

    • @tusantus
      @tusantus 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      they didn't tho-

  • @Akira-Zenin66
    @Akira-Zenin66 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    My brother why you put 11 after 9 Jit said universe 6,9 and 11

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I made that mistake? My b.

  • @mikeisnotcool8360
    @mikeisnotcool8360 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The Gohan portion of this video made me feel a certain way, your choice of words along with the music accompanying it all really resonated with me. The sick art in Kakumei only enhanced the vibes too, especially at 9:01. It was really well done!
    By the way, what’s the song that plays during the Gohan section? I didn’t see it listed in the description.

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      th-cam.com/video/FP4duz43t_A/w-d-xo.htmlsi=-onEkPxbCsnycpcB

  • @The_Real_Raidou
    @The_Real_Raidou วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It all returns back to Goku being trapped and betrayed

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’m pretty sure this was made before that thing became a meme. Corny as it might’ve been initially I didn’t mind it but now people meme it.

    • @The_Real_Raidou
      @The_Real_Raidou วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@maliksyv6056 idk I still think that Goku wouldn’t feel treated like that.

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@The_Real_Raidou Yeah, taking him out of the narrative could definitely be done a different way. However, like I said I don’t mind it too much.

    • @The_Real_Raidou
      @The_Real_Raidou วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@maliksyv6056 i’m fine with him being out of the narrative because other characters should have their time to shine. It’s just with Goku. He isn’t the same Goku. Idk it is pretty cool just not what I feel dragon ball is to me.

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@The_Real_Raidou yeah I agree with you with you. Removing him in this way makes Dragon Ball not really what it is

  • @jacobjorgensen729
    @jacobjorgensen729 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Fire vid homie. The art style looks awesome!

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Thanks for your continued support man.

    • @jacobjorgensen729
      @jacobjorgensen729 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Of course! God bless, man :)

  • @vitorcustodio5899
    @vitorcustodio5899 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Lmao, worthy sequel... this is so ridiculously edgy and non-Dragon Ball.
    Fun story, for people who like these edgy, kinda teenager-coded stories, I'm sure it's a blast, plus the art looks beautiful. But come on, when you start saying "better than Super" about a story showing Goku's open bleeding back and every character acting like Shadow the Hedgehog, you're just showing yourself as a 12 year old.

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Just because they have more grotesque art, holding that against it and say everyone is acting edgy without examples, when that isn't the case just shows you didn't read the story nor are you even trying to understand the angle this story was shooting for. If you can sum up this story as a "teenager-coded story" as you say I don't want to know what you think of Super's writing. Like you sound ignorant.

  • @mewtwo34
    @mewtwo34 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I don't say this as hate; I don't understand why fan mangas are placed on such a high level.. it's just fanfiction, essentially. I'm sure its entertaining but its hard for me to get into them cause non of it matters

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Look at it this way, when thinking of a piece of fiction why does it matter at all? It has nothing to do with reality or anything that would affect daily life. It's just a story that doesn't matter. However, fiction can move you. It can change how you view things in life if you indulge it's world, characters, etc.
      Fanfiction works in the same lane but in different ways. Seeing different people's outlooks, talents, or messaging they choose to emphasize in a story that has already ended or is being told can be refreshing. It can give you a new love for a piece of fiction because of the people it's touched. That to me is why fanfiction is very important and does matter. It's a testament to a person's love for a story that I like, enjoy, and/or love.
      Yes in the grand scheme of things they don't matter to the canon, however, to a fanbase it is a creative outlet to demonstrate love for a story and by extension the author's work.

    • @Golghrom
      @Golghrom 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      GT in a nutshell.

  • @magnetic9089
    @magnetic9089 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

  • @percy3711
    @percy3711 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Dragon ball would never write something this hard. They’re busy drawing baby daima.

    • @t-posingsephiroth8009
      @t-posingsephiroth8009 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That wouldn't do anything like this, yeah. Because Daima is gonna be way better than some run of the mill edgy fan project that only cares about making everything "gorey and intense."

    • @CyberFunk6267
      @CyberFunk6267 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      >Baby Daima
      Please shut the fuck up
      Daima was literally Toriyama’s last project

    • @vvcapalot5606
      @vvcapalot5606 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@CyberFunk6267cooked his ass 😂😂

  • @Am1nTheSaiyan
    @Am1nTheSaiyan 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "A Worthy Sequel to Super" bro it's literally better than DBS

  • @SavantPete
    @SavantPete 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Dragon Ball Multiverse or where the sequel to Z. Dragon Ball AF, a worthy sequel to GT. Dragon Ball Kakumei, a worthy sequel to Super

  • @sea_of_es
    @sea_of_es วันที่ผ่านมา

    right, the goku gets chained up and betrayed fetish

    • @maliksyv6056
      @maliksyv6056  วันที่ผ่านมา

      What

    • @sea_of_es
      @sea_of_es วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@maliksyv6056 its true, everyone on youtube is doing it

  • @ramgami-7122
    @ramgami-7122 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Extremely edgy, the art is good, but it isn't Dragon Ball. The story is boring.
    Almost all fan content of DB is like this. All the heart and comedy gets drained out, and all the designs get way more jagged and frowny.
    Everyone is angrier and more violent, and there's no real story, just flimsy excuses for another fight or minor dramatics.