Can Memory DAMAGE Your CPU? - XMP Explained
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Why could using XMP void your CPU warranty?
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This car can go 100 MPH!!!
(This vehicle is rated for speeds below 15 MPH. The manufacturer is not responsible for the damage caused by high speeds.)
Remind me a bit of the german autobahn: you should go 130 at max but you won't be punished if you go faster... unless you cause an accident, then you get a worse sentence than you would if you went under 130.
@@macks6234 tbh if you cause an accident above 130 you will die so it's alright 😂
That's genuinely how car warranties work. Your car *can* drive at 120mph, but if you run it at 120mph and then run to your dealer, claiming your tires are getting worn out too fast: "get the fuck out" is what you should expect.
@@ARTEMISXIX is that a joke or are you serious?
@@ARTEMISXIX 130 km/h
*I PAID FOR THE WHOLE RAM, SO I WILL USE THE WHOLE RAM*
eww leave the ram and sheep alone.
@@sopcannon **whole** ram
oh, **every** part of it
@@sara-n5q even the horns?
No problem, just don't use it at high speeds ;p
I think you also paid for Speedo meter and Insurance
Me: *Overclocks RAM
RAM: *Warranty Void
Me: *Changes back to original factory speeds
RAM: *Warranty Regained
Edit: Based on True Story
Crazy Techy Kinda similar to iOS jailbreaking xD. You can restore your phone before going to Apple and they’ll service it for you no problemo. But go in with a jailbreak and depending on the rep, they’ll deny service
Like, really. A good analogy: this "warranty void" also applies to X570 / Z490 motherboards. You touch a multiplier and a voltage? *Fuck* your motherboard warranty. It's gone. Nobody warranties any overclocking. Nobody.
Intel also designs K-series CPUs. Does that mean Intel needs to warranty those OC-gone-bad fuckups, too? No. What about AMD's? Unlocked multipliers for everyone = everyone can now void their CPU warranty *together*!
Selective outrage, lmao... "but muh RAM!"
OH YOU HAVE BROKEN COMPUTER PHYSICS LOL
@@ikjadoon Actually, Intel offer an overclocking warranty for $20 that covers you even if you blow up your CPU by sending 2V through it. Nice rant though.
Me:*overclock the hell out of every part*
Ram: *if i get banged, you havent any warranty*
Me:*doesnt matter, if you dies i pick my hammer and bang the hell out of you*
the correct answer to the question "did you use xmp?" when talking to customer support for warrenty is now and forever "I don't know what that is.". Sad reality we live in.
You should answer it with the question "what's XMP?", now you're not technically lying.
This right here. Same goes for any other questions they ask about your config. Just say you don't know what that is. You just plugged it in and turned it on.
@@Sophistry0001 I bricked my 1070 trying to overclock it and told EVGA what I did, and the guy was like "well we don't give out instructions on how to use the software, so it's our fault, here's an RMA" lol but after seeing a few things about this I wouldn't say that to Intel.
@@TinBryn whats extreme memory profile? intel: i see.
this is why i do't diy my own pc for while now... it just waste time and time... just to dea with warrenty and bullshit.. officer that i don't left my brnad new computer without testing it..
Just get RGB RAM to double your performance, easy. No need to overclock.
Facts
Lol
Just download ram. Easy. No problem
Your comment is out dated
Hahaha soooooo funny
“This Shuttle is rated for an atmospheric entry angle of 6 degrees; anything other than that can be blamed on physics.”.
This mans so serious he ended the sentence twice
@@northlandgaming8460 still 40 seconds since you commened but underrated comment man!
Is it still a lie?
Riley: "I don't know."
Editor: Y E S
Is it lie promote something as a feature while it void your warranty? If they lie to take your money, you could lie to get it fixed properly.
Fun fact: Dennis edited the video xd
Tell Obiwan that
@@mahmoudsobhy5843 how do you know ?
@@TheNillquest No. That's obviously not a lie (bad practice, sure), but even if it was I'm pretty sure Intel doesn't ever advertise XMP above the rated value of the CPU, since they've recently cracked down on motherboard manufacturers who even allow people to overclock above the CPU spec. I'm sure it's people like you that caused them to do so.
Manufacturer: "Omg look how fast this brand new ram is we just made!!"
People: "runs ram at the advertised speed"
Manufacturer: "yOu WeReNt SUpPoSsEd tO dO tHaT"
It's Intel and AMD that voids the CPU warranty not the ram manufacturer voiding the rams warranty
@@tresnugget oooo
@@tresnugget at least amd still giving higher supported speed
Weren't*
@@CreeperPookie r/woooosh
Intel: Overclocking will void u'r warranty.
Also Intel: *Extra Warranty sold separately*
this warranty is not for regular user tbh, this is a very good deal if you into competitive overclocking
Intel and AMD: Overclocking will void ur warranty.*
No Obama Care style for CPU insurance?
i asked about overclocking on intel boards community, they did not answer me, what does it mean?
This isn't apple😂
JEDEC: "You are on this Council, but we do not grant you the rank of Master."
Linus: XMP stands for xtreme memory profile
Me: Xtra More Performance
hey xactly mega power
eXcellent Motherboard bios Preference.
intel: eXtra more money
"Is it still a lie if you only tell part of the truth?"
Giant "YES" in the background had me cracking up.
Hilarious that this was mentioned as I was literally arguing with a co-worker about this today.
I didn't even notice the 'YES'.
Great humor though.
I'm not worried about the warranty. The real question is, does running XMP RAM cause any instability on critical hardware where reliability is vital?
Yes possibly, which is why you shouldn’t run a chip out of spec for mission critical hardware.
Riley rockin’ hard with that sleepy new dad look
"XMP Profile"
Ahh, ATM Machine again.
my favorite is "personal PC computer"
Buildzoid: sees title
Also Buildzoid: *angry noises*
@@lawliot Being honest with how time consuming it is, it's not really worth it to do manual OC for RAM.
@@angeltzepesh1 probably why i havent even bothered OC'ing mine, the gains seem marginal at best but some people can see a difference i guess.
@@musek5048 I tried to OC mine, a pair of Corsair LPX 3000Mhz CL15, but after 2 days of errors in memtest i gave up and run them on DOCP settings only. Maybe i could get them better since they are samsung b die, but its not worth it.
@@angeltzepesh1 i have samsung b die as well but i got it because i know its reliable as hell. havent tried pushing it farther than 3200 but my pc is blazing fast already so why the hell would i need it any faster?
@@musek5048 exactly my thoughts, is there really a need for a difference of couple of seconds? same reason why i didnt bother to upgrade my SATA SSD's to PCIE. My current plan is to replace all of my HDD with SSD's, now depends what deals i can get for M.2, otherwise i will stick to SATA on those too.
Over clock or not, I wish RAM was downloadable and not physical.
downloadmoreram.com
Downloadmoreram.com
Then people would use pirated Memory. xD
maybe
Bruh
"Voltage through your ram"
Shows CPU
i dont know anything about computers
Probably meant memory controller (that is located inside the cpu)
This comment is dumb.
Usman Saleem sure thing
yair ohana gilad makes sense lol
Title then: "Can you overclock your RAM?"
title now: "Can memory DAMAGE your CPU?"
Also, if you need support from Intel/AMD and you've enabled XMP/DOCP and they want you to send diagnostic data or the like over, be sure to clear the CMOS (or just load factory defaults in BIOS).
I need to overclock my life.
Just turn your alarm faster an hour or two
Listen to Dasand Rudestorm, then.
do meth
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Grinding whole beans before making the coffee in a press does that for a lot of people.
Me, who uses his XMP memory for 3 years: -What is this "warranty" thou seakest of?
Much appreciation for the visuals of hooking up a nuclear power plant directly to a cpu @3:00 - Thanks for making that.
"Should I overclock my RAM?"
Intel and AMD: Yes, but actually no.
Real answer: YES OF COURSE
*t&c apply
So you went with this color grading huh!
WE DEMAND LESS SATURATED RILEY
do you know the wae?
WE DEMAND LESS CLOTHED RILEY TOO
@@melaniejason3912 spicy
@@verdigris1457 very
The reason they called it XMP is when it’s extreme memory profile is because EMP is electro magnetic pul… [cod flashbacks]
This video is perfect timing! i turned on XMP 2 days ago and was wondering why my games kept crashing. looks like you explained why. thank you
What speed was your ram?
0:44 Ah yes, the XMP profile, or eXtreme Memory Profile Profile...
Ahh yes EMP Pulse (Electro-Magnetic Pulse Pulse), DC Comics (Detective Comics Comics
@@Useless_Rift 😂😂
Such a timely video after that issue with Gamers Nexus and NZXT BLD regarding XMP voids warrenty. Thankfully, they sorted that out and NZXT changed their stance on the issue.
Me: *Overclocks RAM*
Intel: *i9-10900K - Warranty Void!*
Ideally:
Me: *Fries i9-10900K after 1 Year Warranty*
Also me: *Underclocks RAM*
Intel: *You weren't supposed to do that.*
My binned and delidded 10900K was void before it even got to me.
wrong the Intel 10900k is an unlocked CPU valid to OC.
hopey1809 I think you missed the point of this whole video. Yes, the K series Intel chips are unlocked. The point of this video was to point out that by overclocking any part of the CPU (XMP is essentially overclocking the memory controller on the CPU die), then you are voiding the warranty - especially so if you run the memory higher than the spec sheet for the CPU.
@@StolenJoker84 i know. But the comment pun isn't working like that
@@hopey1809 what pun?
Riley looking as fresh as when Geordi LaForge got the cyber eyes in Star Trek First Contact.
Lt Dan you got new eyes
the last time i was so early i had no idea what shortcircuit is
It's a movie right?
Just take out the motherboard's cmos battery and it'd just go to the default settings and then go for the warranty and if they asked just say "What is XMP?"
"seamoss" lol.
It took this video for me to realize why they avoided calling extreme memory profile EMP mode
Norwegian consumer laws: Product advertises overclocking, therefore warranty must cover overclocking.
0:08 im liking the looks of that reality tbh
This, indeed, was a bit of a surprise recently. After enabling AMD's flavor of xmp the system wouldn't even boot in to the 'bios' anymore, that was greeeeat. In the process I learned way more about memory latency then I would have liked. Took some attempts to get it going. Later a bios update became available, with that updated it did run fine at the default 'xmp' profile.
Looking the qualified vendor list would have prevented this.
I’m just really really glad a good friend of mine warned me of the qvl and the issues that comes with ram and cpu in the board. I hope more people who are new like me who wants to build the pc on their own will see this post.
People Look for the QVL for you board, find RAM that supports both the board and the CPU series
What I like about this dude is that his moustache looks like an upper lip of his upper lip
it's kinda a cute thing I guess🙃
been quite busy, yet quickbits and tech news always has my time.
AMD not only honored the warranty on my FX 8350 in spite of bent pins even though the RMA page said it would not, but they also sent me a stock cooler even though they said they would not. But I didn't even remember to consider what that processor's spec was for max memory speed.
The real question which no one addressed is:
*”Should you download more ram?”*
☝️You know where this is gonna go: th-cam.com/video/dQw4w9WgXcQ/w-d-xo.html
Yes should try it bro
If you succeced please take a min to inform me BEST OF LUCK
👍Whenever my computer is running slow I just download a new 32 GB kit and I'm back to blazin.
😂😂 I can’t wait for that one kid, who going to say that it worked!! 😂
@@zachf9187 oh yeah baby....
It doesn't matter if you use 3200mhz memory with XMP, because a human eye can only see 256gb ssd
Riley Is the best, please don't change. I love your humor and the way you explain things.
I see the new boss is workin' ya hard.
Be sure to take a nap between episodes.
As long as things are taken care of, a short nap for hard work isn't always frowned upon.
I can see/feel this too!
You'd think they'd have something in BIOS/UEFI that limits/locks the RAM clock to the CPU memory controller. How hard is it to do that?
I have an off-topic question, tho:
What is the first thing that a hard DISK drive does/looks for when it's started up?
I've seen that hdds usually stay with the head near the spindle/(rotator thing) for a few seconds at startup and then it continues the rest...
Do hdds first look at the file allocation table when started up?
Maybe their cache and start going through the table of directions trying to read the operative system parts
When my PC/Hackintosh wasn't booting, I had to reset the CMOS (which also reset the BIOS), so now I'm in macOS and I forgot to turn on XMP, so my 3600MHz memory is only running at 2133MHz
When you overclock your ram, and it's so fast that you ramm into ram
Yeah this is like sony supporting custom android roms, then refusing me a hardware fix because I'd installed said custom android rom.
I bear very long grudges.
You and me both-I still swear off Samsung products
if you want a reputable android brand, i think lg is a good way to go. samsung is digging themselves in a ditch rn (plastic note 20, im using a s10+) and sony doesnt know what they are doing with their aspect ratios. oneplus is alright too
@@royisdabest typing this on a oneplus 8. Solid phone, good support and they actually encourage custom roms. It doent void your warranty. The OnePlus 1 got Android 10 the other day through lineage os
All of those phone warranties with custom ROMs have to be able to be reversed. They never supported custom ROMs, they just wouldn't void your warranty as long as you reflashed their firmware before sending back your device. The problem lies in if your phone bricks with a custom rom then you're pretty much screwed.
@@tresnugget wasnt even that, I flashed it back but they could still tell I'd unlocked the bootloader.
On top of refusing to fix the broken power switch they had the cheek to charge me £15 to ship the phone back, I forgot about that part. I'm getting annoyed again.
I vote Riley and James for a stand-up comedy duo as an LTX (from the studio) event.
the burger on the right at 0:10 probably tastes waaay better than the one on the left
Somewhat similar how phones brag water resistance but don't cover it in warranty
Original title: You Should NOT Overclock Your RAM?
Katherine Morton yup
I did this with my cat and now it's a tiger...
Not recommend
3:02 "Putting too much voltage in ur RAM"
Unexperienced PC USER: *OOOH Ur Ram Square? Mine Rectangle!*
For some reason stupid TH-cam won't allow me to share their own video links and write a helpful caption for the audience, so check the link in reply for that overclocking policy video.
th-cam.com/video/TsRWeOPw0vk/w-d-xo.html
I feel like they are training him (personality wise) to be linus lol.
Literally the 1% people who’s reading... May your parents Live More Than 100 years with good health 🙏
It feels like watching tech news from super mario. It's wonderful.
If you're really worried about running overclocked RAM, just check the maximum voltage of the CPU and buy overclocked memory with an XMP profile that doesn't require more than that voltage to run. That's what I did with my i7-4790K finding DDR3-2133 memory that only required 1.50 voltage.
Yus....first comment again!
You must be working with Linus 😤
Bro, at 1:28 I was gonna google my CPU but then I realised it's the same one you showed!! 🤯
Imagine putting up with months or even years of random BSoDs and general instability, only to find out the problem was being caused by XMP, since your board isn't good enough to run the RAM at it's rated speed.
I got an ad before the video started with linus in it lol
They probably void the warranty because overclocking the RAM is actually overclocking the CPU, because the memory controller is physically on the CPU and XMP or DOCP draws more voltage through that controller.
I've had 1 Ryzen 3200G burn out from this. It was fine for a Ryzen 1200, two ryzen 5 2600, and a ryzen 7 1700.
Me: has a 4th gen i7 which supports 1600 mhz
Me with my 1800mhz ram since 7 years: *I OVERCLOCK THIS TO 2000 MHZ*
this is like if apple was like "you can charge our phones but if it breaks we are voiding the warranty" dont advertise it if it isn't covered by warranty thankyou
That 'YES' was subtle.
therapist : riley on drugs cant hurt you
riley on drugs :
I've told that "I didn't overclock" lie on two blown CPUs.
How long before we can buy our "Techquickie 'til the End of Time" official t-shirts and merch?
Whaat? So when i upgrade next year.. my ram might be slower than what the ram speed was on the store's website? hmmm.
3:15 My brother used to work as a testing engineer at Intel, his job was to test chips under extreme conditions and see how they degraded over time in order to create the specs they should actually be run at. He says they can tell if the CPU has been abused like that. They aren't putting them in a PC and just seeting if they post they have multi million dollar diagnostics machines where they stick the CPU in it shows the signals coming out if it (think an oscilloscope combined with a logic analyzer), they can even test it if it's non functional in a PC. It shows the waveforms of the TTL signals coming out of the chip and according to him they will show degradation (become less square and more distorted) over time if the chip is run outside temperature or voltage specs. And they can pretty much tell what was done to it based on what signals are distorted and in what way. They may or may not go to the bother of actually doing that but if they really want to they can tell.
As a Freshman Electronics engineer the Transient patterns can tell about wear and abuse very easily. BUT CPU manufacturers actually probably get so many RMA's from faulty hardware and from OEM test analysis queued up that I think they don't bother to deeply analyse every CPU to see if any clock boost was done
3:45
[The Felis Catus dialect is heard]
Casinos sell books on how to count cards...... you try and count cards in the same casino you brought that book from and see what happens lol
I half expected a drawn-out Rick Sanchez moment at the end, but was disappointed.
my 2600k is still running @4.4Ghz on a 1867MHz XMP profile in extreme phase mode (since 2011)
This is the most useful TechQuickie I've watched in a long time.
You should hire this guy LTT
It's like if lambo said their cars can go over 200 mph but most speed limits are way below. If someone were to ignore the speed limit and crash than it would be hard to get Lamborghini to pay the damages just because they advertised their cars could go that fast. It does make some sense. The cpu sets the speed limit and the just because the ram can go faster doesn't mean it should. So it's kinda like checking to make sure your motherboard can use a cpu, make sure your cpu can handle the max speed of the ram
In most cases I believe enabling xmp shouldn't void your warranty, however there are those insane kits that do like 4600 MHz and motherboards will throw insane voltages to the vccsa and vccio like 1.5v.
Riley: Use an XMP Profile!
Me: Use an eXtreme Memory Profile Profile
i really like your way of making a video and how you make if fun yet in the subject, keep up from Egypt
I have extreme stability at stock speeds. No way I'm trading that in for crashes, blue screens and voided warranties.
This. I have had nothing but problems with XMP, and while it sucks not to get the speeds promised and paid for, I would rather my system not shut itself off randomly having it on.
it can definitely corrupt windows files and more if its unstable.
Same goes for phone manufacturers "Look, we made this phone really really waterproof. Oh, what? The waterproofing failed? Well we can't help you with that, we say "don't put in water" in the manual."
This is the most educational LMG video I have seen in a long time.
Rileys got the lipstick going strong today!
In Brazil happened that if you send an email to intel warranty they will deny if you use XMP and say to you send again an email lying to them about XMP and then they will be able to do the warranty and all ads they do it's about overclock cpu and memory to sell this but if you do, you can't receive warranty. wait what?
Steve tested this the other day, 5x on phone and 5x online, had no issues with xmp warranty and called it a non story.
Them: overclocking your CPU will void your warranty!
Me: ha! I didn't even buy a warranty!
I got a replacement DRAM from Team C. I know that this is about CPU warranty, but I just wanted to share the good news
Riley you are the man! Whenever he is on, Techquickie, Techlinked, Technews, 400 more Linus monopoly channels I have to watch. James is a close second 😉
Anyone else think he sounds like Ron burgundy off anchorman haha
"I'm ron burgundy u stay classy san diego"
Yup..... Intel denied my warranty on a 8700k due to running memory at 3000mhz on a 3400mhz kit.... I said I didn't bump it up but they were able to find out and were spot on...
Look in the QVL lists of the mainboard and the RAM on the respective websites to check whether or not the RAM speed is supported. For example, Z170 only goes up to 3466 MHz.
Did anyone else get that Linus Pulseway ad? I'm genuinely confused...
Yes, if the CPU remembers when it got friendzoned, CPU performance drops significantly.
The RAM controller is on the CPU, so it does have to work harder when overclocking. This isn't too say it should void the CPU's warranty though.
There isn't a single video thta isn't sponsored. Nice!👍