Is Your RAM Slowing You Down? (Memory Ranks)
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Learn about memory ranks and how they can affect your system's performance.
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The bottleneck in my system is still the human operating it.
My mom and dad have the same bottle neck
My bottleneck used to be money. Now it's scalpers.
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@@FatherManus nope your bottleneck is still money.
I'm in the fortunate position where I can say with absolute certainty: No, my RAM isn't slowing me down, everything else is equally slow.
lucky you! you found balance in your life 🙂
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Had me in the first half!
Cpu -z will tell you how many ranks on the memory speed tab, incase you're wondering.
HWINFO is also good
Thanks 👍
On the SPD tab. On the memory tab you'll see if it's single or dual channel.
Not to be confuse with ranks and dimms.
Can confirm.
Also my 16gb kit crucial (2x8gb) is single rank
Ram in 2010: Ah who gives a crap about it. Just buy it.
Ram in 2021:
Ah yes, that sweet, sweet DDR2 800
@@PaulHojda right ! How many ? "ALL OF Them ". Imagine me how I felt building my first pc and that's coming from an old laptop with 3 gig ram 😂 my 16 gig kit 😁 now I run laptop 32 gig 🙄😁😁
it's been this way since DDR ram.
That guy is my favourite dude on LTT. He both seems like he doesn’t give a crap, but also cares a lot about giving you the information.
Riley is hot, but he's not Anthony, so he loses "Best LTT guy" by default. Maybe secondb-best.
Riley could have made a good 80's detective but he drank too much soy milk. 😬
jk. He's a good addition to the team.
linus = big-time narcissist
everyone else at LMG = geniuenly skilled people that aren't also incredibly annoying to listen to
He's like my second favourite Riley ever after Riley Ried
He's also hot
smh, why do people buy ram, just download it off the internet
Such an original joke 😂
Yeah Sure. I don't want to deal with ads.
Ingenius!
punching kids for ram is a better way
@@grey.mithrandir nah
Teacher: Why didn't you turn in the assignment on time?
Me: It wasn't me, it was the RAM's Fault.
was that a TLB joke
More rank !
Your rank will decrease
That actually happened to me. Doing a CS assignment with 4 core and 4 threads and 8GB of RAM was not a good idea. Especially in 2018.
Lmao I got an add with Riley in it and I thought I was watching the actual video
I just got the same pulseway add
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I just got the same pulseway add
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I only had one rank but now I downloaded the second rank from internet
me who bought single-rank ram literally yesterday:
F
Single is usually more stable/better for overclocking. I wouldn't worry about it. A couple years ago everyone was saying SR > DR.
im trying to understand why my patriot viper 2x8 kit runs way better at 3200 than my corsair lpx 2x16 at the same speed. the corsair kit is dual rank and the patriot viper kit is single rank samsung b-die and it absolutly shits all over the lpx kit for latency and read/write bandwidth again at the same freq. this seams literally opposite of what this video suggests. cpu this was tested with is a r5 3600 oc'd to 4.5ghz all core. also the samsung b-die can handle more voltage for daily (up to 1.5 vdram) which means i can push it waaayyyy farther than the lpx ram. can easily run 3600 cl14.
You could return it because dual rank ram does make a difference but it might be fine because what they didn't meantion is if you're planning on ram overclocking most likely you will be able to get better speed and timings than with a dual rank kit.
You could return it because dual rank ram does make a difference but it might be fine because what they didn't meantion is if you're planning on ram overclocking most likely you will be able to get better speed and timings than with a dual rank kit.
Great video! I’d consider myself a tech savvy guy, been building systems for 2 decades, and have never heard of ranked ram. Today, this video was the example of the old saying “you learn something new every day.”
Instructions unclear, bought prebuilt
Was looking at a prebuilt at bestbuy yesterday. 1650, ryzen 3, 2 DIMM motherboard, 1 filled. 8gb ram.
$1200
RIP
@@MuhammedGemci rip
@@enriquepadilla2542 🧐 that's hella overpriced
Enrique Padilla hell no that’s a bad deal
Just got this video in my feeds when I was looking for it!! Thanks, Riley! It clears many things to me.
I upgraded my ram to 16 from 8 on my 1660ti laptop. I wasnt expecting such a huge improvement. I had 10 to 25 more fps and most importantly stable fps on games i have been playing.
more than what?
@@tikyreol978 more than having 8 gigs.
This video helped to confuse RAM even more.
Some topics need a longer, more in-depth, video than what TQ can offer.
Are you saying they should create a channel called techlongie?
Tell me you wouldn’t watch every video on that channel! Gamers Nexus but with LTT style.
@@realgoose I question whether an LMG channel will ever have that much focus on accurate reporting vs splashy fun! wow! clickbait!
Huh, something I've actually never heard of before! Thanks for the explanation Riley!
honestly props to not having any mistakes while talking and having the editors write text where appropriate, mistakes can make learning new or complicated stuff harder
Open CPU-Z and click on the SPD tab, on the right it shows the rank value of your ram.
It should be dual rank
Am I right?
Another excellent video, already knew this stuff but still found it very interesting and informative. Thanks!
Thanks! I was searching for this recently.
I learned what RAM rank numbers are today.
CPU-Z also shows the ranking of each stick under the SPD section if you don't feel like opening the case. I also have 4 sticks of identical SKU, but one has Hynix chips and the other has SpekTek, and yet one set is Single rank whereas the other is Dual.
short answer: no
long answer: no
then cut out the midd... -excuse me- medium man!
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Been using 64GB DDR3 RAM for almost 4 years now, never used even 10GB of that memory but it was a gift so don't call me a money waster
Gift waster ;)
That there is a lifetime supply of RAM (for the life of the motherboard anyway).
Upload it to the internet so someone can download your ram
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@@Hellspooned2 lmao 64GB DDR3
Love the video, lots of great information! One question, will mixing dual and single rank ram on a dual channel cpu create any issues?
I have 2 x 16g r1 and was thinking about getting 2 x 16g r2 and adding it to my dual channel system
Thanks for this well done video
Thanks for the quickie Riley!
very informative, thanks!
On linux: sudo dmidecode --type 17 and look for rank
Imagine having to download CPU-Z to get relevant information about your system, lol
@@Lambda_Ovine imagine remembering commands
@@Lambda_Ovine Imagine making fun of people because of the OS they use
"Rank: unknown" lol
Thanks!
Considering I have 2GB, I suppose YES. YES IT DOES.
Here’s an idea for a teckquickie episode: the different ways of texting from your computer when you have an iPhone . Dell Mobile Connect, Blue Bubbles (my favorite, a life changer tbh), AirMessage, WeMessage?, Beeper, SMServer...
Wow, you learn something new everyday! Thanks guys!
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Another important point is that high-rank modules are usually harder to overclock than single rank ones.
Very informative 👏
But make a video explaining the boost the ram gets from the RGB
Finally. Hopefully stores near me also write about this on their items' description
Hey so glad I found your video! Was wondering why this "number of ranks" parameter is almost never talked about in RAM upgrade how-to-videos & articles... Yet when I went online shopping for new RAM, I stumbled on this 1Rx8 vs 2Rx8 parameter, even for a same model of RAM sticks (HyperX FURY 3200 has the two types). Now, do you happen to know if it is ok to mix the two types (1Rx8 + 2Rx8)? My HP Omen 30L already has a HyperX FURY 3200 2Rx8, but last week I ordered a HyperX FURY 3200 1Rx8 to add beside it, will it work? Would have been better if it was a 2Rx8 I guess? Thanks in advance!
they will both perform as 1Rx8, 1Rx8 is going to slow down 2Rx8.
@@igronDC is it possible for old motherboard with 1rx8 RAM being replaced by 2rx8?
I am struggling getting 3600MHz memory to run above 2600MHz... and it seems that the slower speed is its Stock Speed.
So glad I paid the extra!
"What speed you're on..."
Tbh I never know. I buy them from my localer dealer.
good vid keep up the good work
But can a dual bank RAM solve Legendre differential equation... I mean, run crisis?
excelente pregunta
For some reason looking at that sticker on the ram stick made me feel like I went and bought one and that I was admiring it like I usually do when I get new tech.
It might be worth noting that buildzoid states that higher rank configurations can't clock as well as lower rank ones.
He does recommend prioritizing rank above frequency for AM4 due to the memory controller but all other configs the inverse.
I have four RAM sticks and four slots. Will running at dual rank vs single rank matter for me? The XMP profile uses single rank by default so that's what I'm using now.
I wasn't the only one waiting for Riley to make a sound effect when he said PIA as an internet kill-switch am I?
Ah thank you. This information helps me a lot. I was a little confused because i have dual channel but single Rank. And i didn't understand what does single rank mean.
I JUST bought parts for a new build. So I'm watching this video, nervously, waiting to see how I did.
Whew. I went with 4x8Gb. Nailed it.
Sweet spot for ryzen now seems to be 3600 cl16 with 4*8 single ranked. Also if you're going with just 2 sicks of 16g don't go with crucial as they are single ranked. However, those are ideal for 64g if you really need that much.
What about corsair vengeance LPX
Now if only someone could explain if it's worth it to change the interleaving size?
Do you need a bigger size with more sticks? more ranks?
Can you use the minimum of 256 bytes?
Can't find any info on this.
I was not ready for this level of technical information
Just as I'm in the market for a new pair (whole pc actually), thanks.
3:14 "Whatever you do on your pc" ....... I play command and conquer games from early 2000's on my pc Riley!!!!!
Does anyone here know if running graphic design programs such as Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator as well as video editing software such as Adobe Premier Pro are better off with single rank RAM sticks or is dual rank RAM better? The computer I bought recently on Amazon is the Acer Aspire XC-895-UR11 which is a budget desktop that has the 10th generation Intel Core i3-10100 4 Core Processor. The motherboard on this computer allows only two sticks of RAM up to a maximum of 32GB's. I want to max it out with 2 sticks/16GB each but wanted to know if the RAM sticks I get should be single or dual rank for the type of programs I run.
The background song had a sound in it that made me look if my phone was ringing. Multiple times =)
It's midnight here in India the perfect time to think what is slowing me down
12:30
It is probably being born in India
@@Prevarant 😂 I just wanted to know, what's wrong with being born in India? A lot of my friends here too complain about that xD
Muth
Hi from india...
Finally, a Techquicke video that makes you want to buy a ford. Fs for Chevy and RAM.
Cool set
Nice segway! Bravo!
I have a 3600CL18-22-22-42 1.35V dual rank Hynix DJR A2 PCB 2x 16GB ram kit on a Ryzen 9 5900X and B550 Tomahawk that I’ve managed to tighten to 3600CL16-19-19-38 at 1.45V
Is that RAM box thing in the background (or something similar) available to buy anywhere?
You might be able to find it by looking up "powered ram display box" or something like that
I’d like to see test results from the additional latency effects from running 4 x dual rank modules.
and best settings
You end up trying to run 512 bits on a 265 bit bus...
5900x build
for which one should i go?
G.Skill Trident Z Neo F4-3600C16Q-32GTZN(4x) or the F4-3600C14D-32GTZN(2x)?
I would love to see the difference in some benchmarks!
I seem to remember back in the day, you would want fewer ranks, because you could quickly run into problems with the maximum number of ranks supported.
What about some benchmarks on the topic to see how much an impact it has?
Does anyone have a link to the ltt forum post that lists all the ram sticks that Riley refers to? Much appreciated!
Love the SDRAM in the preview.
so just curious can you mix said dual, quad ram with single rank ram sticks or do they have match
Thank you
Where do i find a spreadsheet for which ranks RAM is using?
Riley: Is your RAM slowing you down?
Me on DDR3: Yes
I don't know what you use your pc for, but for me 16GB DDR3 has been enough. If anything, I'd upgrade to 32gb.
Did you guys do cl vs hrz? And what about 3 ram sticks vs 2/4 sticks in modern configs?
It is easy: You need enough CPU cores and power to access and process thee ram your using. Exampel‘s are Dual Core Quad for two 2GB RAM sticks and Quad Core for four RAM sticks up to 32 GB combined. For evrithing else you need more cores like Rizen. Or at least a 8core CPU from Intel. With Hyperthreading you will have more options and lower Latency on processing as an backup to the normal cores but it can as well leed to interferences depending on the system and Software.
Depends on memory controller and board. B350 with 2400G + Dual Rank Trident RGB 3600 = 2400Mhz RAM. Same RAM on B550 with 4750G = 3600Mhz, 1T command rate, CL17.... newer APU and board goes a long way.
Yes. Still need to buy the other stick to operate it in dual channel.
One of my ram sticks just died and it was a 48h pain to find the culprit, then I finally open TH-cam on my freshly fixed PC to see this title as first recommendation...
TechQuickie idea: how do fast wireless chargers work, and why don't most phones support >10-15W charging?
I just installed a second pair of DDR4 3200s (all sticks identical) in my 5600x machine. Night and day difference in stuttering on my games.
i use cpu-z to check for sure shows rank on spd tab in the app.
One question, I bought two ram sticks of the exact same brand, model, frequency, size… the only thing that is different is the rank, one is single, the other is double… is there any problem using both?
for me it is sad that my main rig using ram from 7700k era and never find an upgrade for years. it is a 16x2 gskill royale 4000mhz c16. i was able to push it all the way to around 4400 with cl19 when i used to use 8700k, now is 3600c14 with my 3900x. hope i can get a 5900x or 5950x soon
For 4 slots use is 4x dual rank RAM generally better than 4x signal rank RAM of the same overall capacity?
i love ur jokes man keep it up
So, would 4 dual rank sticks in a dual channel MB essentially act like quad rank RAM?
How is the RAM behind is glowing, how its powered?
I found some five rank laptop ram Patriot DDR3L SoDIMM says it’s made for the AMD A6 processor which is what my laptop has in it
So do need to just bite bullet and buy 32 gb STICK an same version of that stick latter when need?
What I do wanna now up until know is where can I download RAM.
I have 2 dual rank Samsung's only because I got them for $10 brand new on FB Market Place. I replaced my single rank modules. I might get some heat spreaders. Thanks bro.
I read that my Ryzen 3600 that 3200mhz was the right speed but now I'm reading that 3600mhz is the best point. I have Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (8x2) 3200mhz but I was going to get another kit for 4 modules not sure of my Gigabyte Aurous Elite B450 board supports that set up and in dual channel
Hello, I have a question for a possible video, Is it possible to put a Sim card/LTE on a desktop? I've seen some PCIe modules that advertise they can, but not sure if it would be possible of if these are just some random Chinese parts
Thank you
two bad that you don't talk about 4 rank, because i don't find that much info about it on internet, and i don't understand how it work... can you do a video about that ? even if it's just for server's users. (the not professionnal users)
Thought about doing a video on how well you can game on a football stadium jumbotron?
Yes this is true because the cpu can access more banks but it will depends on how the game was coded.. if you own the new amd ryzen I strongly suggest that you should have a 4X8gb setup running at 3600mhz. This is the best setup and a lot of games will give more FPS than a generic or popular 2x8gb setup that most people buy..
What about 2x16 dual rank setup?
Is memory rank (double and quad) widely supported by cpus+mem controllers?
Or, some cpus+mem controllers only accept single rank memory?
How much difference would this make if you are GPU bound in gaming ?
16 sticks here, all of them identical 32 gb each, in quad cannel, dual dimm per channel, dual rank 2Rx4 for a dual Xeon config here.
If you use a 65w charger to charge 4 devices at once, how will they be shared. Please explain in a video
I’m trying to figure out something I hav 2 sticks of around 16 gb ram and I’m new to computers so I don’t know much but I get about 300 gb of memory storage which is pretty low and only allows me to download maybe 1 or 2 games and i don’t know what to do about it and what is causing the low memory storage could I get some help?
i can't change the xmp profile of my prebuild pc (atc 780) what should i do?
On my pc what I get up to is mostly watching LTT videos