Great story. I commuted from Edinburgh to Glasgow in the early eighties on a 500 Pantah. Ate batteries if you let it but was reliable as hell and a pleasure to ride. Oh the whirlies roundabout at 7 AM!!
Man, great GREAT video - I have been interested in the Panigale since it's debut in 2012. I appreciate the honest, no bullshit review of your Ducati. Thank you
Really enjoyed this video man. I think you've got a knack for reviews and videos in general. I'd recommend you do more in the future. Great bike too :)
Thanks for the review. I really appreciate it. I'm currently at the only point in my life I'll ever be at, with enough disposable income to go out and just buy a new bike. I expect kids will be demanded soon, and by the time that's over, I'll be surprised if there's much fun available at all that still powered by fossil fuels. I've got an old '56 Velocette, '79 Guzzi Lemans, an '88 650 HawkGT(BROS) and a '98 zx7r, and I love em all to bits for different reasons, (and I can convert them all to run on alcohol if I have to), but always wanted that Ducati. It would have been a 916, but, my Mrs is German, and from a family obsessed with things being perfect, in order, reliable, of quality, and her dads told her all about older Ducati reliability and practicality. The other odd thing is that she's consistently encouraging the purchase, and she basically hates motorbikes. Dirty, smelly, dangerous, noisy, impracticle. This might be because I do a lot of miles, and I have to fix my bikes quite a lot as a result, (and that time could be spent fixing the house). The newest is 19 years old, and has a LOT on the clocks. In the past few months, I've had the original rad problems (fixed by replacing with one shipped from glorious un-salty California - £100 delivered to my door - gracias) Rearsets gear lever break (corroded through where joins the linkage), replaced front master cylinder, brake discs/pads, did my clearances, oil etc. I've got a spare set of forks ready to strip and replace the stanchions on, as I'll need that in a few K. It happens in gluts, and then I need to spend a chunk of cash to keep it roadworthy, and she thinks that would be better spent on a 'problem free' new bike. She's also overheard all my youtubing while I learned about all these new electronics, cornering ABS, cornering traction control (both of which, I would rather like, as my commute in the UK is both long at 130 mile round trip, and there's often a sort of 'lucky-dip' type of surface around blind bends, maybe a giant puddle, maybe gravel after the puddle has gone, mud from farm traffic, diesel spills, etc...) and wants it to have all the latest and greatest 'rider saftey aids' cos she doesn't want me to die, which is nice, but it means I can't slip a 916, or a 1098/848 in under the radar, and I think even the 959 panigale lacks a lot of it (I'd have liked the 1098/1198, last of the line really, belts, steel trellis, fits my body too), and leaves me with the latest crop of superbikes. I'm partial to a Kawasaki, so thinking of a zx10r, plush suspension, good brakes, all the electronics, but no downchange on the quickshifter, unless you buy an RR (so I probably would cos its only another 2 grand), but, kinda, standard Jap styling - nothing to write home about. Not reeeeally into the S1000RR - it just doesn't make me need it, even though the heated grips would be lush in winter. I'm sure it's great, but somehow feels too utilitarian, and I don't need to win races on tracks. I'll be trying a fireblade SP2, just for shits and giggles, but I don't want it. I just fancy a go on the bike that McGuinness and Martin couldn't stay on, and getting a test ride is easy here. Rather buy an RC45! Or even an RC51. or both. Yamaha - I'm sure its great, but I'm not into it , it doesn't fit me, I'm tall - rather have a TZR250, (which I'd have a reason to be too big for), a Supermono, or an OWO2 for the money. Suzuki? no interest somehow. KTM - nope. But anyway, yeah, a good objective review - It'd be nice if I could find reviews of the BMW, the Kwak and the Duke all having done 3 British winters, but I think your review is about as close as I'm gonna get with that. Is the headlight any good? Great music.
Is it weird that I worry that, if I buy a 1299, in 20 years time, I might not be able to find petrol for it, and then due to all the electronics, it just won't run and I won't be able to ride it?
If you buy the Panigale S model, it comes equipped with LED headlights which are considerably brighter than conventional lighting. 1299S Panigale, 1290 SuperDuke, SuperDuke GT, Yamaha MT10, and Indian Scout are bikes I would check out.
This is a valid point, but you think we have A/C here? ;) Germans call this 'Worrying about unlaid eggs'. I worry more about smashing into a deer, in the dark fog and murk of winter, but not until it nearly happens. Seriously though - they have the whole countryside to stand around in.
Really cool video that makes you want to ride an 1199! Great sound effects and innovation. Most entertaining bike review I have watched. Thanks! It makes me want to go look at a 2014 with 10,500 miles for $10,000.
This is the type of dude youtube randomly reccomends to you at 3am and eventually you end up laughing your balls off. LOL great video man!!! Keep up the good work!!!
Props to you sir! I always tell people Ducati's are "unreliable" because people use them as trophies and do not actually ride them. I have a 2012 Monster 796 that I bought with 9400 miles and it now as 33,500 miles and I haven't had any problems at all! It's good to see the high end bikes lasting just as well.
Tuesdaysgonewtw he basically saying that basically because Ducati has a bad rap for needing lots of service, always down, always need repair, basically you have to become a mechanic because of how much attention it needs.
I have 27,000 miles on my Ducati Scrambler (2016) and probably spend around 1,500 dlls on maintenance so far. This including a Clutch replacement @ 24,000 miles. Bike still strong and fun to ride! Clutch replacement done in Mexico, labor only cost 50dlls.
nice review fella, i have a 1199s 2012, bought it brand new, fucking love it i have just had my 15k service done, my screen TFT went, map sensors,ecu over the five years I've owned it but best bike I've ever owned, i too like to ride em not look at them, here in England it rains too much so we go over to Spain and France
love it! my 2014 Daytona 675 is my main source of transportation. only issues were a coolant leak and the seal behind the thermostat housing was replaced. I'm at 30k miles. overall can't complain. plus mine was a leftover so they threw in a quickshifter(which only comes on the R model) triumph race sliders, gel seat and front and rear aluminum Bullitt style brake resivours. Overall awesome video my friend! the panigle is my dream bike!
i have a 1000rr with over 25k miles and havent had to spend 1/100th of what u spent on that thing.. was gonna try and find a old 999 monster but idk now.. beautiful bike tho!!
This convinced me to never buy a Ducati lol. All sorts of crap wearing out if you actually ride the thing. It would probably end up parked for long amounts of time while I saved up to fix it.
Jakalwarrior All the Ducati's in my area for sale are mostly just a few miles below the major services, lol. This is why I bought a Japanese bike. For the price of the Ducati, I actually got two.
Bredaxe I've got a Japanese and an Austrian. The KTM design isn't as well thought out and bullet proof as Japanese ones usually are, but at least the maintenance is affordable and nothing leaks.
Jesus, never buy a Buell then! I had an XB12-R from new and it started to corrode after 50 dry miles. It had 2 recalls for items in it's first 6 months and the overall build quality was pretty shoddy. In comparison, my 1991 Ducati 900ss had very few problems in the 10 years I had it. I had 1 'major' problem over that time when the voltage regulator/rectifier overheated and caught fire. (It was Japanese, a Nippondenso unit) I replaced it with an aftermarket item that was higher rated and never had anymore problems from it. I did 32,000 miles and had it serviced for valve clearances only. Everything else I did myself. Oil filters were incredibly cheap as they are the same item as fitted to a Citroen 2CV! The only thing I would have changed would be the electrical cabling dealing with the starter motor. Too weedy. Beefier cables would have got rid of the problem I had with the bike's poor starting. I had no more problems with it than I had with my previous 3 Japanese bikes.
I LOVE YOUR REVIEW!!!! Some one who actually has ridden the damn thing put some miles on at and left a review! People don't know what the fuck a review is anymore. Your not some snobbie ass hole either, just a dude with his bike doing what he loves. I put about 10k a year on my Duc 1100s, beat the crap out of it, ride it, and use it for what its built for! After this I'm sold, I'm going to buy a 1299 next spring now. Thanks Fancy Animal.
Beautiful bike, and excellent review. I see a lot of comments that sound like people prefer only to ride and not be involved with the bike maintenance. I personally think that's part of the fun. Greetings from Auburn, NH...the dealer where you bought this bike is about 10-15 minutes from me. New subscriber, look forward to more content.
I thought a Harley was costly but this bike takes the cake. Ducati bikes are nice but they are costly and the parts cost are over the moon. Bike manufactures need to make the bikes easier to work on , this should be their focus in the future. Super glue the rim sticker on the rim next time
I figured you were an engineer after RTV. By Hall Effect I was certain. I owned a couple Duc STs. Put about 35k miles on each. They were great. What did break was always comp'd by Duc. Even had chrome flake off the rockers a year and many thousands of miles out of warranty and they even covered that. My last one was in a shop that caught fire. If it wasn't, I might still have it. Personally, my neck can't handle that upward cock I need to ride the Panni's, but they are beautiful. I bought a Thruxton 1200 that has essentially the same riding position as my old STs. Even steers like it. Twin is similar too, if less clutch racket. The Brits have won me over, but I still root for Ducs on race day!
saddlebag ya I own an engineering biz. Should I tell people I also own a Honda, or will that ruin it for the haters? Not many people know about the ST. You should try a new Supersport just for kicks. What do you mean it caught fire? Thruxton had some charm...see my Hawaii review. I have the opposite problem...my back hurts riding upright. It's nice to have a bike for every chapter of our lives. What a country!
I've owned or rented about every major brand besides Harley. Several Hondas too. Even a Goldwing. I like various things about all of them. The Supersport is tempting, but two is my limit. I also have a Versys 1000 for touring around with the Mrs. Been using it to tool around the local fire roads with the Adventure crew too. My bike didn't catch fire, but the shop did. They had to claim everything in it on their insurance...including mine. You rode the old Thruxton. New one is a completely different animal as are all the new Triumph "Modern Classics."
Most dealers dont let people to test ride their bikes? okey then how do you know if the bike you been cheeking out clicks with you? Hmm, a dealer like that would not get me as a customer, even a dealer that doesn't let its customers to test ride a bike on their own, ie like all the youtube clips I have seen where lots of customers are "test riding" bikes in a organized column. So glad that you found a dealer that is "normal" in this regard :)
No they "devalue" like any other vehicle in the world. Has to be enough money less than buying a brand new vehicle... like everything else. Japanese bike are cheaper and have an even cheaper resale- I don't get your point. lol
@@number1Schumacherfan Toyota is a necessary blight on the automotive world and set the benchmark for bland durability to post menopausal female drivers everywhere.
man that sounds like you ride worrying about your bike than anything else. my 2013 kawasaki zx6r 636 I bought off the show room floor with 0 miles on it 15870 miles later only oil change. if it was for warrantie that would cost you a lot.
Japanese is the way to go. Cheap, realiable and great performance. Unlike a Panigale which you have to baby it or else you might break something and have to spend thousands to fix it.
Just a quick question to owners of Ducati 899 and 959 2012 to 2014 within 18000kms to 30000kms owners, have you spend loads of money on mechanical or electrical issues in 2017 or 2018 or had overheating issues or some other issue which took ages to get fixed or never got fixed? As I am looking to buy 2014 899 with 19000kms?
Thanks for doing this video, was thinking of buying ducati but I know now to say far away . it is true what they say ( u spend less time on the road and more time in the work shop ) luckily u still have warranty most don't . I'm surprised that ducati didn't tell ya to stop riding it so much lol
Yup without the warranty I would have had to deal with some annoyances; nothing that would leave me stranded, but headaches for sure, The biggest fault was with Ohlins, not Ducati.
Nice bike but 25,000 miles street/track on my R1 and the only thing that's gone bad with it was a battery. Running Lithium now. Really nice video though. Very well put together. And take the damn mirrors off. Bike sounds like sewing machine when idling.
Just wanted to ad this... A ship can also speed up in shallow waters witch allows it to "squat" down into the water, increasing the clearance under the bridge xD Also, supersexy Ducc. My dream bike.
I'm going to guess you're an engineer? Nm, you just said it. Not surprised, you make taking things apart and tolerances sound easy. And to live in SF comfortably, at least six figure income required. I hate what you said about the bike - how good it really is. Now it's going to be really hard not to buy one.
The radiator guards are worth it for sure to mitigate rock damage. I wish I had them at the salt flats. That sh$t is hard to wash out. The only thing I had was a clutch cover slider which was crunched this summer. I have wheel sliders for the track.
I threw 14,123 miles on my Kawasaki in 2 years. Remember this, I also live in Wisconsin and can't ride for at least 4 months out of the year. (usually five months though to avoid salt)
Pirelli Diablo SuperCorsa SP. They come stock on the Panigale 1199 / 1299. I literally ground them down to the fiber reinforcements. Such a sticky tire in the dry or wet...they've even seen a little snow ; )
Great video man! You had me laughing throughout the vid. On a serious note, I am considering buying a 2016 Panigale 1299S next week that has 21k miles from the dealer in Tampa. It has had the 15k service and is still under warranty until November 2018, with the option to purchase the extended warranty. In your opinion, would you bike this bike? Thanks!
What are they asking for it $$$? Ask to see the service and warranty claim history. Coolant leaks can be a recurring, but fixable issue on the 1299. If I knew the history of the bike or could talk to the original owner, I would def buy it. Otherwise I'd look for another bike with lower miles.
Thanks for responding Fancy Animal. So I did more research and shopping over the weekend and found a 2017 1299S with only 2400 miles and has the Akro exhaust already installed. Buying for $20,200 and it still has warranty for at least a year. Also had an in-depth conversation with the dealership about this 2017 and it's service and maintenance history. It was sold and maintained at the same dealership and they guy that owned it, only traded it in to get the new V4S. I think we have a winner!
FirebladePilot there you go....plus you get EVO slide control not available on the 2015. It will be the bike of your lifetime. 5th Gear power wheelies...be careful chief.
My 1299 panigale is one year old, it's given me so much trouble, it has now got almost 5000km, it's still under warranty but it's annoying, new electronic dash, new QS module x 2, been in the stealer 3 times and still leaks water, now Ducati tell me it's made to leak?..
Sorry to hear that. Sounds like you have a lemon and should pursue the lemon law. I'm passed 40,000km and never had dash , QS, or coolant issues. Where is the leak coming from? The bike is not made to leak and can be very dangerous. If you don't pursue the lemon law, find another dealer ASAP!
dude awesome fucking video, pulp fiction is my all time so you earned a sub there. my dianese jacket did exactly the same thing haha, use one of those alligator paper clips and pop the clip off to to run through the zipper head and reinstall. works great now. I also did my ALL my own Service on my Hypermotard SP (including Desmo) and have over 23k miles on mine now. It's been a very reliable commuter bike for me as well.
Jeezus, here i thought my 2011 Sportster was bad, i didn't seep oil till 25k. No warranty claims. I mean it's a stone age motor, but i didnt have to dig into the motor until i changed the clutches at 30k. I still would like Ducati doe.
Take 280 from SF to Pacifica exit -Take hwy 1 from Pacifica to half moon bay turn right on Hwy 92 to Sky line go right on sky line stop at Alice's Restaurant ( Big bikes of all kinds hang out. Then you can drop back down Hyw 84 (awesome road for your bike, these all are!) then at the end of 84 you can go right back to SF on 1 down the coast or go left down the coast to Santa Cruz. Then back to SF down 1 from Santa Cruz. Check out the Board walk in Santa Cruz ! Try to do it when it's not fogged in. A ALL day run and very beautiful. You can't go wrong.✨😆🤘✨🇺🇸if you go to Santa Cruz it will be a ALL day gig but if you go back to SF from the bottom of 84 bout half a day. Also stop at Apple Jacks bar on 84 home of old school jokers and smokers like Niel Young. And the Greatful dead.
They sold you a Lemon !! They fucked up when they sold you the Lemon with an unlimited miles warranty. 🤦🏻♂️ So you was putting miles and fixing things for free !! 😂👍🏼
I'm wondering if buying a DEMO bike might have something to do with a lot of the problems? It could have possible been wrecked previously and then repaired by the dealer. At that point they decided to allow it to be a Demo bike. I'm sure you received a very good deal on it because it was the bike you ended up buying. However, coupled with the fact you added unusual high miles in a short amount of time along with the bike purchase being a Demo, maybe buying A used Ducati is not a good idea. I love your bike though.
Seems that Ducati’s which have been dropped tend to develop tons of leaks. I know a couple guys who simply dropped them and one low sided which lead to both suspension and motor leaking. You have a pretty good theory on what may have cause all the premature wear.
luvs2race370 keep your tire pressure above 30psi and spend equal time on curves vs straights and you'll get 5-6k. I'm at 5k and worn 75% / 60% - front / rear with no flat spots. Tracks days take a toll.
I actually said screw the Super Corse's and went with the 3 compound Rosso Corse 2's. Only have a few hundred miles on them so far. Really like them though. I'll never be able to push them past their limit. We'll see what happens
I would never buy a demo bike. Or any used supersport for that matter. Always brand new so you can properly break them in. There is a lot of debate about myths surrounding a break-in but anything other than the OEM is just asking for issues like this one. Since Ducati has been bought out, the reliability in their builds has gone up tremendously. I've owned two and just bought my third and haven't had ONE SINGLE ISSUE. I've ridden two of them cross country as well (FL --> CA) so I put a lot of miles on them. Don't let this put you off from Ducs.
Christopher Neil you must be new to the channel. Every problem listed in the video is on the TSB...has nothing to do with being a demo. With over 30k on it, I've had less problems than other Panigale owners. BTW as a former automotive engineer, I can tell you breakin is overrated and one of those tropes OCD bikers cling to like "if they really want to steal your bike, there's nothing you can do." I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Ducati. Cheers!
Fancy Animal, if you say so. I can only speak for myself but with five cars, six motorcycles, and around 230K miles between them all, the biggest issue I have ever had was a dead battery. Maybe I’m OCD because I do everything by the book, but hey, it has worked out thus far. I’ve got a x-country trip coming up this summer on my 959 Corse; 8000 miles in a month (FL -> CA -> NYC). In all fairness to you, I’ll post a 22K mile update when the time comes as I put a lot of miles on my bikes. Cheers.
I owned a 999 back when they first came out. I wanted to love her, I really did. I saw more problems with her than my prior 30 bikes put together. It was like being married to a porn star who is also prone to committing domestic violence. Like every domestic violence victim, I thought it was me. That I needed to change. That things would get better. I finally realized that things wouldn’t get better right about the time the top end blew up. Ducati bought it back because it was such a piece of shit. I blew the dust off my R1, which had been sitting for almost 6 months. Fired right up as if I just rode it the day before. I’ll never be mesmerized by Ducati again.
It really depends on the bike, my dad has an 1199 Tricolore, he bought it from new and has had no issues over 9 years. It's been to the track a bunch of times and he commutes to and from work on it
yep. that's why I love my honda. but hey, if your definition of living is fixing your bike, instead of riding it, go ahead and fix your ducati every 2 km's.
I have 21,000 on my 2011 848 and have only done the break-in service, 15k service. I haven't replaced anything besides tires and oil, still on the original chain.
Bloody oath mate my 06zx10 bought new 58k no issues except for a stator at 28k now has 58k.ive bought 2 Italian bikes new Aprilia RSVR and Ducati 996.they rode great but overall they're overpriced garbage when it comes down to it.
Thanks for the info dude and good to hear you RIDE the thing/DUCATI ...love them, had a 916 and a 996SPS ...no problems at ALL ...only masses of torque and a sound to die for ...drive fast and safe ...Sky
What I've learned from the video, ride your panigale as much as you can while its still under warranty.
steve kno yes and always brush your teeth
steve kno yup like Yamaha before the gear box explodes
Except Yamaha has a 100,000 mile warranty for life on their new bikes.
steve kno no one is disputing that Yamaha makes a good product. Ride what you enjoy.
Dougie You've never even had a Yamaha, let alone ride a motorcycle. You are just basing your comment on "gossip" from online threads.
Great story. I commuted from Edinburgh to Glasgow in the early eighties on a 500 Pantah. Ate batteries if you let it but was reliable as hell and a pleasure to ride. Oh the whirlies roundabout at 7 AM!!
Man, great GREAT video - I have been interested in the Panigale since it's debut in 2012. I appreciate the honest, no bullshit review of your Ducati. Thank you
Scott Lincoln I'd buy the same bike knowing everything up to this point. There's nothing more fun and visceral in a sportbike.
@@FancyAnimal would you buy it *used* without a warranty?
love this review!! no censorship, straight up truth, fun and extremely informative !! subscribed.
Quality video, and a rare beast considering the mileage. Bravo for actually riding it.
Really enjoyed this video man. I think you've got a knack for reviews and videos in general. I'd recommend you do more in the future. Great bike too :)
Thanks for the encouragement. I wish I could get my mom to sit on a motorcycle. Are you worried about your woman riding?
Thanks for the review. I really appreciate it. I'm currently at the only point in my life I'll ever be at, with enough disposable income to go out and just buy a new bike. I expect kids will be demanded soon, and by the time that's over, I'll be surprised if there's much fun available at all that still powered by fossil fuels. I've got an old '56 Velocette, '79 Guzzi Lemans, an '88 650 HawkGT(BROS) and a '98 zx7r, and I love em all to bits for different reasons, (and I can convert them all to run on alcohol if I have to), but always wanted that Ducati.
It would have been a 916, but, my Mrs is German, and from a family obsessed with things being perfect, in order, reliable, of quality, and her dads told her all about older Ducati reliability and practicality. The other odd thing is that she's consistently encouraging the purchase, and she basically hates motorbikes. Dirty, smelly, dangerous, noisy, impracticle. This might be because I do a lot of miles, and I have to fix my bikes quite a lot as a result, (and that time could be spent fixing the house). The newest is 19 years old, and has a LOT on the clocks. In the past few months, I've had the original rad problems (fixed by replacing with one shipped from glorious un-salty California - £100 delivered to my door - gracias) Rearsets gear lever break (corroded through where joins the linkage), replaced front master cylinder, brake discs/pads, did my clearances, oil etc. I've got a spare set of forks ready to strip and replace the stanchions on, as I'll need that in a few K. It happens in gluts, and then I need to spend a chunk of cash to keep it roadworthy, and she thinks that would be better spent on a 'problem free' new bike.
She's also overheard all my youtubing while I learned about all these new electronics, cornering ABS, cornering traction control (both of which, I would rather like, as my commute in the UK is both long at 130 mile round trip, and there's often a sort of 'lucky-dip' type of surface around blind bends, maybe a giant puddle, maybe gravel after the puddle has gone, mud from farm traffic, diesel spills, etc...) and wants it to have all the latest and greatest 'rider saftey aids' cos she doesn't want me to die, which is nice, but it means I can't slip a 916, or a 1098/848 in under the radar, and I think even the 959 panigale lacks a lot of it (I'd have liked the 1098/1198, last of the line really, belts, steel trellis, fits my body too), and leaves me with the latest crop of superbikes. I'm partial to a Kawasaki, so thinking of a zx10r, plush suspension, good brakes, all the electronics, but no downchange on the quickshifter, unless you buy an RR (so I probably would cos its only another 2 grand), but, kinda, standard Jap styling - nothing to write home about. Not reeeeally into the S1000RR - it just doesn't make me need it, even though the heated grips would be lush in winter. I'm sure it's great, but somehow feels too utilitarian, and I don't need to win races on tracks. I'll be trying a fireblade SP2, just for shits and giggles, but I don't want it. I just fancy a go on the bike that McGuinness and Martin couldn't stay on, and getting a test ride is easy here. Rather buy an RC45! Or even an RC51. or both. Yamaha - I'm sure its great, but I'm not into it , it doesn't fit me, I'm tall - rather have a TZR250, (which I'd have a reason to be too big for), a Supermono, or an OWO2 for the money. Suzuki? no interest somehow. KTM - nope. But anyway, yeah, a good objective review - It'd be nice if I could find reviews of the BMW, the Kwak and the Duke all having done 3 British winters, but I think your review is about as close as I'm gonna get with that.
Is the headlight any good?
Great music.
Is it weird that I worry that, if I buy a 1299, in 20 years time, I might not be able to find petrol for it, and then due to all the electronics, it just won't run and I won't be able to ride it?
If you buy the Panigale S model, it comes equipped with LED headlights which are considerably brighter than conventional lighting. 1299S Panigale, 1290 SuperDuke, SuperDuke GT, Yamaha MT10, and Indian Scout are bikes I would check out.
An A/C unit may slip out of an apartment window 4 stories above your head as you walk by, so I guess you could worry about that instead.
This is a valid point, but you think we have A/C here? ;) Germans call this 'Worrying about unlaid eggs'.
I worry more about smashing into a deer, in the dark fog and murk of winter, but not until it nearly happens. Seriously though - they have the whole countryside to stand around in.
Acepants Tibs I've got the Ducati Streetfighter 848 and love it. I just bought the BMW S1000XR...I love that even more! Try it.
The beginning of this vid was straight up back to the future lol. Loved it.
Damuskinous hey kid, what did you do...jump ship? What’s with the life preserver?
@@FancyAnimal LOL!
Really cool video that makes you want to ride an 1199! Great sound effects and innovation. Most entertaining bike review I have watched. Thanks! It makes me want to go look at a 2014 with 10,500 miles for $10,000.
This is the type of dude youtube randomly reccomends to you at 3am and eventually you end up laughing your balls off. LOL great video man!!! Keep up the good work!!!
Props to you sir! I always tell people Ducati's are "unreliable" because people use them as trophies and do not actually ride them. I have a 2012 Monster 796 that I bought with 9400 miles and it now as 33,500 miles and I haven't had any problems at all! It's good to see the high end bikes lasting just as well.
Accidentally clicked on the video, liked the editing & style, subbed.
Nice to see Ducati is still making mechanics out of riders... even in 2017. What an embarrassment.
He's a mechanical engineer bozo, what's your point? Oh, never mind, you don't have one.
Tuesdaysgonewtw he basically saying that basically because Ducati has a bad rap for needing lots of service, always down, always need repair, basically you have to become a mechanic because of how much attention it needs.
@@Tuesdaysgonewtw imagine if he wasnt.
And he's basically saying that basically the 'bad rap' that Ducati has isn't basically true.
I have 27,000 miles on my Ducati Scrambler (2016) and probably spend around 1,500 dlls on maintenance so far. This including a Clutch replacement @ 24,000 miles. Bike still strong and fun to ride!
Clutch replacement done in Mexico, labor only cost 50dlls.
Pedro Flores dam bra! How does the air cooled twin handle the heat?
pretty manageable. It gets a little hot on traffic but nothing big. I own a BMW f800gs and the heat is similar. good video
The intro is amazing..... loyk fookin amayyyyzing
So RSV4 next? Awesome review by the way.
nice review fella, i have a 1199s 2012, bought it brand new, fucking love it i have just had my 15k service done, my screen TFT went, map sensors,ecu over the five years I've owned it but best bike I've ever owned, i too like to ride em not look at them, here in England it rains too much so we go over to Spain and France
love it! my 2014 Daytona 675 is my main source of transportation. only issues were a coolant leak and the seal behind the thermostat housing was replaced. I'm at 30k miles. overall can't complain. plus mine was a leftover so they threw in a quickshifter(which only comes on the R model) triumph race sliders, gel seat and front and rear aluminum Bullitt style brake resivours.
Overall awesome video my friend! the panigle is my dream bike!
Sick brother!!! I wonder if we'll be able to have children. Where is the 675 manufactured?!
Homie's daily is a 1199 Ducati Panigale S. Respect brother!
i have a 1000rr with over 25k miles and havent had to spend 1/100th of what u spent on that thing.. was gonna try and find a old 999 monster but idk now.. beautiful bike tho!!
This convinced me to never buy a Ducati lol. All sorts of crap wearing out if you actually ride the thing. It would probably end up parked for long amounts of time while I saved up to fix it.
Jakalwarrior All the Ducati's in my area for sale are mostly just a few miles below the major services, lol. This is why I bought a Japanese bike. For the price of the Ducati, I actually got two.
Bredaxe I've got a Japanese and an Austrian. The KTM design isn't as well thought out and bullet proof as Japanese ones usually are, but at least the maintenance is affordable and nothing leaks.
Jakalwarrior well imy brother and friends of him never had any issues with their ducati.
super117knight how many miles?
Jesus, never buy a Buell then! I had an XB12-R from new and it started to corrode after 50 dry miles. It had 2 recalls for items in it's first 6 months and the overall build quality was pretty shoddy.
In comparison, my 1991 Ducati 900ss had very few problems in the 10 years I had it. I had 1 'major' problem over that time when the voltage regulator/rectifier overheated and caught fire. (It was Japanese, a Nippondenso unit) I replaced it with an aftermarket item that was higher rated and never had anymore problems from it.
I did 32,000 miles and had it serviced for valve clearances only. Everything else I did myself. Oil filters were incredibly cheap as they are the same item as fitted to a Citroen 2CV! The only thing I would have changed would be the electrical cabling dealing with the starter motor. Too weedy. Beefier cables would have got rid of the problem I had with the bike's poor starting. I had no more problems with it than I had with my previous 3 Japanese bikes.
I LOVE YOUR REVIEW!!!! Some one who actually has ridden the damn thing put some miles on at and left a review! People don't know what the fuck a review is anymore. Your not some snobbie ass hole either, just a dude with his bike doing what he loves. I put about 10k a year on my Duc 1100s, beat the crap out of it, ride it, and use it for what its built for! After this I'm sold, I'm going to buy a 1299 next spring now. Thanks Fancy Animal.
Came here to get an idea about Ducati, watched other reviews as well. All I can say is that ima get a Yamaha like r1 or a kawasaki.
Me and you both!!!. I wanna ride the fuck out my beast w.o headaches
Beautiful bike, and excellent review. I see a lot of comments that sound like people prefer only to ride and not be involved with the bike maintenance. I personally think that's part of the fun. Greetings from Auburn, NH...the dealer where you bought this bike is about 10-15 minutes from me. New subscriber, look forward to more content.
Great video mate, good to see a nice bike being ridden instead of stored.
I thought a Harley was costly but this bike takes the cake. Ducati bikes are nice but they are costly and the parts cost are over the moon.
Bike manufactures need to make the bikes easier to work on , this should be their focus in the future.
Super glue the rim sticker on the rim next time
OMG the Camry part had me rolling
Shoei shower safety es muy importante!! Very fun, great work!
I figured you were an engineer after RTV. By Hall Effect I was certain.
I owned a couple Duc STs. Put about 35k miles on each. They were great. What did break was always comp'd by Duc. Even had chrome flake off the rockers a year and many thousands of miles out of warranty and they even covered that. My last one was in a shop that caught fire. If it wasn't, I might still have it.
Personally, my neck can't handle that upward cock I need to ride the Panni's, but they are beautiful.
I bought a Thruxton 1200 that has essentially the same riding position as my old STs. Even steers like it. Twin is similar too, if less clutch racket. The Brits have won me over, but I still root for Ducs on race day!
saddlebag ya I own an engineering biz. Should I tell people I also own a Honda, or will that ruin it for the haters? Not many people know about the ST. You should try a new Supersport just for kicks. What do you mean it caught fire? Thruxton had some charm...see my Hawaii review. I have the opposite problem...my back hurts riding upright. It's nice to have a bike for every chapter of our lives. What a country!
I've owned or rented about every major brand besides Harley. Several Hondas too. Even a Goldwing. I like various things about all of them.
The Supersport is tempting, but two is my limit. I also have a Versys 1000 for touring around with the Mrs. Been using it to tool around the local fire roads with the Adventure crew too.
My bike didn't catch fire, but the shop did. They had to claim everything in it on their insurance...including mine.
You rode the old Thruxton. New one is a completely different animal as are all the new Triumph "Modern Classics."
Why dont you get some aftermarket mirrors? Some bar ends or something? Just prefer the stock look?
Reminds me to do the 200,000k service on my VFR.
Mark Hill also reminds you to wear your depends, drink your Ensure, and reapply your Just for Men
No crap, I grew up in Derry, NH. THE Ducati dealership here in Vermont allows you to demo bikes too. I think most Ducati dealerships do.
Tom Dixon which dealer?
Most dealers dont let people to test ride their bikes? okey then how do you know if the bike you been cheeking out clicks with you? Hmm, a dealer like that would not get me as a customer, even a dealer that doesn't let its customers to test ride a bike on their own, ie like all the youtube clips I have seen where lots of customers are "test riding" bikes in a organized column. So glad that you found a dealer that is "normal" in this regard :)
Really enjoyable and informative review. Thanks for sharing your time and knowledge.
TY Harris anytime sir. Cheers!
awesome channel... your honesty of the bike and fact that you used it as a dirt bike earned you a sub..whats the song after the slice of pizza?
This is ....the strongest intro.
7500 mile 600rr service $20
Mike Rider used 600rr for sale $20
Mike Rider yeah, ducati owners only buy there bikes so they can tell people they own it.
Ducati's resell value is a joke, seriously. They devalue faster than any bike I have seen.
No they "devalue" like any other vehicle in the world. Has to be enough money less than buying a brand new vehicle... like everything else. Japanese bike are cheaper and have an even cheaper resale- I don't get your point. lol
Yeah ok! But it’s still a 600 🤢
Loved this video. Just got a 2017 Ducati Diavel and I Fucking love it.
Man that's a lot of problems for an everyday bike. No thanks
It's not that bad... Come on bro
@@3star2nr when NO other bike has this many problems? yes it is
@@desertfresh3740 they have other issues...
Agree wholeheartedly with the Camry comment. But cannot help but laugh at the irony of that statement when you had an IS in your garage!!
That was my roommate’s car. I daily an ‘89 Mustang GT. Truth.
@@FancyAnimal well played. I have a 2020 S1000RR and an M4. BMW loyalist over here and really hate TMC on the whole. :)
@@number1Schumacherfan Toyota is a necessary blight on the automotive world and set the benchmark for bland durability to post menopausal
female drivers everywhere.
holy crap you are a committed owner!
acsolares2 yew haw
Is this faster then the 916 supersport ?
man that sounds like you ride worrying about your bike than anything else. my 2013 kawasaki zx6r 636 I bought off the show room floor with 0 miles on it 15870 miles later only oil change. if it was for warrantie that would cost you a lot.
BIKE GEAR MOTOVLOG if your poor it is expensive but people who buy Ducati aren't poor.
Says the guy with the Honda Accord to the guy in the Ferrari F40. Which would you rather own?
That's not true, I know someone who bought a 2010 Ducati and it's park in is garage right now.
Japanese is the way to go. Cheap, realiable and great performance. Unlike a Panigale which you have to baby it or else you might break something and have to spend thousands to fix it.
Daniel Kane says the guy with the Honda Accord to the guy with the F40.
How about an update?
Good starting bike recommendations before buying this bike?
Pretty impressive singing actually you nailed it
T0k4m4K “oh mamma mia mamma Mia....oh mamma Mia let me go.....”
what a well made video , Great job bro . Keep it up :)
Hahaha. Love the intro mate. Very informative review. Subbed!
Thanks for being comprehensive...but it sounds like a freakin nightmare compared to the bikes I've had lol. Good thing you have a mini machine shop
What kind of seat was on this bike?
Just a quick question to owners of Ducati 899 and 959 2012 to 2014 within 18000kms to 30000kms owners, have you spend loads of money on mechanical or electrical issues in 2017 or 2018 or had overheating issues or some other issue which took ages to get fixed or never got fixed? As I am looking to buy 2014 899 with 19000kms?
Thanks for doing this video, was thinking of buying ducati but I know now to say far away . it is true what they say ( u spend less time on the road and more time in the work shop ) luckily u still have warranty most don't . I'm surprised that ducati didn't tell ya to stop riding it so much lol
Yup without the warranty I would have had to deal with some annoyances; nothing that would leave me stranded, but headaches for sure, The biggest fault was with Ohlins, not Ducati.
sounds more like the bushings failed, like dirty fluid with metal in it rubbed the coating that is lack of maintenance.
Nice bike but 25,000 miles street/track on my R1 and the only thing that's gone bad with it was a battery. Running Lithium now.
Really nice video though. Very well put together. And take the damn mirrors off.
Bike sounds like sewing machine when idling.
One2 24k on my r1 got it at 20ish had to replace clutch and whole charging system 😣 still! not that bad tho
Hear one in person- sounds like a helicopter landed on your head.
Thanks for another informative video
Just wanted to ad this... A ship can also speed up in shallow waters witch allows it to "squat" down into the water, increasing the clearance under the bridge xD
Also, supersexy Ducc. My dream bike.
love this guys vids!
jeez, that is a massive list of problems for 22k miles bro! had two dukes, not in a rush for no.3... v4 has like 10 recalls on it already :(
I'm going to guess you're an engineer? Nm, you just said it. Not surprised, you make taking things apart and tolerances sound easy. And to live in SF comfortably, at least six figure income required. I hate what you said about the bike - how good it really is. Now it's going to be really hard not to buy one.
My Monster 1100 EVO (2013) has 46.000km on it, nothing special done to it. Just like any other bike gets a yearly service.
Great video .abrazo desde Buenos Aires .
Great video man
Hey FA, what are your thoughts on radiator guards? think you need protection? No frame sliders either, how you roll bro?
The radiator guards are worth it for sure to mitigate rock damage. I wish I had them at the salt flats. That sh$t is hard to wash out. The only thing I had was a clutch cover slider which was crunched this summer. I have wheel sliders for the track.
You are the first person that I know of who bought stock turn signals and not get a integrated taillight. That thing is hideous.
It is indeed, but read the obituary section of Bay Area Riders Forum and appreciate how to survive in big city traffic. Tail tidy = death.
Nice job on review, very interesting.
really good video
I threw 14,123 miles on my Kawasaki in 2 years. Remember this, I also live in Wisconsin and can't ride for at least 4 months out of the year. (usually five months though to avoid salt)
Zalonka nicely done. I'm from Boston so I can relate to the salt season.
Phenomenal video. Did it take you 24 hours of editing?
Thanks. No but it took me a while to lift the bike over my head.
LOL
Great review!
Mmmmm that exhaust sound is orgasmic. Hahah good review. Hope to own a moster 821 one day
What! 7500 miles on the rear tire? What tire is that?
Pirelli Diablo SuperCorsa SP. They come stock on the Panigale 1199 / 1299. I literally ground them down to the fiber reinforcements. Such a sticky tire in the dry or wet...they've even seen a little snow ; )
Great video man! You had me laughing throughout the vid.
On a serious note, I am considering buying a 2016 Panigale 1299S next week that has 21k miles from the dealer in Tampa. It has had the 15k service and is still under warranty until November 2018, with the option to purchase the extended warranty. In your opinion, would you bike this bike? Thanks!
What are they asking for it $$$? Ask to see the service and warranty claim history. Coolant leaks can be a recurring, but fixable issue on the 1299. If I knew the history of the bike or could talk to the original owner, I would def buy it. Otherwise I'd look for another bike with lower miles.
Thanks for responding Fancy Animal. So I did more research and shopping over the weekend and found a 2017 1299S with only 2400 miles and has the Akro exhaust already installed. Buying for $20,200 and it still has warranty for at least a year. Also had an in-depth conversation with the dealership about this 2017 and it's service and maintenance history. It was sold and maintained at the same dealership and they guy that owned it, only traded it in to get the new V4S. I think we have a winner!
FirebladePilot there you go....plus you get EVO slide control not available on the 2015. It will be the bike of your lifetime. 5th Gear power wheelies...be careful chief.
Can't wait! Finalizing payment tomorrow. Should be shipped here to Tampa early next week! Thanks!
My 1299 panigale is one year old, it's given me so much trouble, it has now got almost 5000km, it's still under warranty but it's annoying, new electronic dash, new QS module x 2, been in the stealer 3 times and still leaks water, now Ducati tell me it's made to leak?..
Sorry to hear that. Sounds like you have a lemon and should pursue the lemon law. I'm passed 40,000km and never had dash , QS, or coolant issues. Where is the leak coming from? The bike is not made to leak and can be very dangerous. If you don't pursue the lemon law, find another dealer ASAP!
dude awesome fucking video, pulp fiction is my all time so you earned a sub there. my dianese jacket did exactly the same thing haha, use one of those alligator paper clips and pop the clip off to to run through the zipper head and reinstall. works great now. I also did my ALL my own Service on my Hypermotard SP (including Desmo) and have over 23k miles on mine now. It's been a very reliable commuter bike for me as well.
Jeezus, here i thought my 2011 Sportster was bad, i didn't seep oil till 25k. No warranty claims. I mean it's a stone age motor, but i didnt have to dig into the motor until i changed the clutches at 30k. I still would like Ducati doe.
Go ride a new Indian Scout or Scout 60 and realize just how bad your Sportster is.
Fancy Animal No, doubt. The motor was made by Yamaha and makes 100hp.
Take 280 from SF to Pacifica exit -Take hwy 1 from Pacifica to half moon bay turn right on Hwy 92 to Sky line go right on sky line stop at Alice's Restaurant ( Big bikes of all kinds hang out. Then you can drop back down Hyw 84 (awesome road for your bike, these all are!) then at the end of 84 you can go right back to SF on 1 down the coast or go left down the coast to Santa Cruz. Then back to SF down 1 from Santa Cruz. Check out the Board walk in Santa Cruz ! Try to do it when it's not fogged in. A ALL day run and very beautiful. You can't go wrong.✨😆🤘✨🇺🇸if you go to Santa Cruz it will be a ALL day gig but if you go back to SF from the bottom of 84 bout half a day. Also stop at Apple Jacks bar on 84 home of old school jokers and smokers like Niel Young. And the Greatful dead.
intro got you a sub
Armin Saatchi thanks chief!
They sold you a Lemon !! They fucked up when they sold you the Lemon with an unlimited miles warranty. 🤦🏻♂️ So you was putting miles and fixing things for free !! 😂👍🏼
ride it and love it
Would have loved to see a how to delete that evap can bs.
I did an EVAP video a couple years ago and pulled it. Looked high and low for it before posting this review, but couldn't find it.
I found the EVAP CAN video and posted.
I'm wondering if buying a DEMO bike might have something to do with a lot of the problems?
It could have possible been wrecked previously and then repaired by the dealer. At that point they decided to allow it to be a Demo bike. I'm sure you received a very good deal on it because it was the bike you ended up buying. However, coupled with the fact you added unusual high miles in a short amount of time along with the bike purchase being a Demo,
maybe buying A used Ducati is not a good idea. I love your bike though.
Seems that Ducati’s which have been dropped tend to develop tons of leaks. I know a couple guys who simply dropped them and one low sided which lead to both suspension and motor leaking. You have a pretty good theory on what may have cause all the premature wear.
What the heck did they do for $800?
nice style of motovlogging
I didn't know Colin Edwards rode Ducati :D
Mate, like yer video and all that money u left in ducati service, they would buy u a proper motorcycle pants and boots 👌😎
What's behind door #2? Hawaii vacation? A year's worth of free cheeseburgers?
You got over 7000 miles out of your rear tire??? I got like 3000 out of my stock Pirelli Super Corse's.
luvs2race370 keep your tire pressure above 30psi and spend equal time on curves vs straights and you'll get 5-6k. I'm at 5k and worn 75% / 60% - front / rear with no flat spots. Tracks days take a toll.
I actually said screw the Super Corse's and went with the 3 compound Rosso Corse 2's. Only have a few hundred miles on them so far. Really like them though. I'll never be able to push them past their limit. We'll see what happens
You bought this from the Ducati Aprilia dealer, you made a huge mistake you should’ve bought the Aprilia RSV4 1000R aPRC instead
at 1:03 whats that movie called..../?????
Rocca 80s tv show called streethawk!!! Yeehaw!!
Thanks
HAHAHA LOVE UR SINGING 😂
I would never buy a demo bike. Or any used supersport for that matter. Always brand new so you can properly break them in. There is a lot of debate about myths surrounding a break-in but anything other than the OEM is just asking for issues like this one. Since Ducati has been bought out, the reliability in their builds has gone up tremendously. I've owned two and just bought my third and haven't had ONE SINGLE ISSUE. I've ridden two of them cross country as well (FL --> CA) so I put a lot of miles on them. Don't let this put you off from Ducs.
Christopher Neil you must be new to the channel. Every problem listed in the video is on the TSB...has nothing to do with being a demo. With over 30k on it, I've had less problems than other Panigale owners. BTW as a former automotive engineer, I can tell you breakin is overrated and one of those tropes OCD bikers cling to like "if they really want to steal your bike, there's nothing you can do." I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Ducati. Cheers!
Fancy Animal, if you say so. I can only speak for myself but with five cars, six motorcycles, and around 230K miles between them all, the biggest issue I have ever had was a dead battery. Maybe I’m OCD because I do everything by the book, but hey, it has worked out thus far.
I’ve got a x-country trip coming up this summer on my 959 Corse; 8000 miles in a month (FL -> CA -> NYC). In all fairness to you, I’ll post a 22K mile update when the time comes as I put a lot of miles on my bikes.
Cheers.
I owned a 999 back when they first came out. I wanted to love her, I really did. I saw more problems with her than my prior 30 bikes put together. It was like being married to a porn star who is also prone to committing domestic violence. Like every domestic violence victim, I thought it was me. That I needed to change. That things would get better. I finally realized that things wouldn’t get better right about the time the top end blew up. Ducati bought it back because it was such a piece of shit. I blew the dust off my R1, which had been sitting for almost 6 months. Fired right up as if I just rode it the day before. I’ll never be mesmerized by Ducati again.
“It was like being married to a porn star who is also prone to domestic violence “ Best analogy ever 🤣🤣🤣
LMFAO
Awesome sauce
It really depends on the bike, my dad has an 1199 Tricolore, he bought it from new and has had no issues over 9 years. It's been to the track a bunch of times and he commutes to and from work on it
999 was one of the worst and most unreliable motorcycles every built
I love your philosophy... Why commute in something you hate just to save a bit of money! You only live once, so fking live!
Why do you think people hate their bikes? I fucking love mine and NOT having to tinker with a duc is simply an added bonus.
yep. that's why I love my honda. but hey, if your definition of living is fixing your bike, instead of riding it, go ahead and fix your ducati every 2 km's.
I have 21,000 on my 2011 848 and have only done the break-in service, 15k service. I haven't replaced anything besides tires and oil, still on the original chain.
phillirofl you deserve a strawberry scratch n sniff sticker. Come over here. 21k chain...you're the man.
That timing belt though...
I have 85k kms on my CBR150r 2013, only replaced Tires,chain and sprocket, oils and brake pads. And headlight bulb twice.
smells funny 21k on a chain cough cough
@@janwilliamagonoy try replacing your headlight fluid. That will fix it.
Ducati dealership, sometimes you wanna go where everybody knows your name.
Prius owner.
@@FancyAnimal damn. You got me real good.
Love your bike man:)
Thanks bro
too legit
SnewJ lmao
Snewj we see u
I pulled up with ^ and them
My 28 yo Kawasaki hasn't had that many problems.
Damn starting to feel good about my decision to buy a kawasaki 400....:)
Let's hear it for Kawy
Bloody oath mate my 06zx10 bought new 58k no issues except for a stator at 28k now has 58k.ive bought 2 Italian bikes new Aprilia RSVR and Ducati 996.they rode great but overall they're overpriced garbage when it comes down to it.
Thanks for the info dude and good to hear you RIDE the thing/DUCATI ...love them,
had a 916 and a 996SPS ...no problems at ALL ...only masses of torque and a sound to die for ...drive fast and safe ...Sky
Sky Powers , what happened to your Ducks?
Holy hell. It seems you have replaced about everything on that bike. Best looking bike out there but seems like one hell of a headache.
rschoultz5304 i have to admit I loved every minute of it.
A Ducati being ridden regularly ? Wtf