Ducati 1199 Panigale vs BMW S1000RR and Aprilia RSV4 APRC
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 พ.ค. 2012
- It's a sad fact for speed freaks that superbike sales have slipped in recent years, while things like naked and adventure bikes are on the up.
So can one of the most exciting, talked-about motorcycles this year - the Ducati Panigale - reignite our passion for all things very fast?
Ducati certainly hope so and have thrown the kitchen sink at the new flagship superbike.
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I have ridden all three bikes and owned two, the bmw is quick but to me lacks charisma, I owned the aprilia rsv4 aprc which was a fantastic bike, but I traded it for the ducati 1199. The ducati has character, and is quicker than the rsv4, it is much lighter as well by about 20kg and has a stronger hp so the power to weight ratio is awesome! Basically its like having the power of a litre bike in a 600 body, its also stunningly gorgeous and better finished, its the experience it gives you which is basically riding a bike with personality which sets this bike apart from the other two awesome bikes. But thats just my taste and opinion as someone who has experienced all three bikes.
A non-biking friend of mine heard the RSV4 when the dealer started it up for him and my friend said "holy crap you can feel that thing in your chest!"
Thumbs up to MCN. Proper video (and sound), proper comparison of the bikes. Thanks MCN!
I'd take the RSV4.. something about that engine is just awesome :)
4:16 "I have always enjoyed riding the twins" Ha ha, Neil!
Another superb little vid, Mickey! Many thanks and keep up the good work!
The Ducati kicks both their asses on looks, but you can't beat the BMW's speed and performance. The engineering in that bike is simply immense!
Before watching this video, i wana thank MCN for these bikes comparison. I was waiting for this video for a long time :)
Thank you for the great review Michael , an everyone at MCN, I have been waiting for the review on the top three new models. I love my RSV4, (engine is why I bought mine). Cheers.
A very well done test and review !
IT,S A BLESSING TO LISTEN YOUR REVIEWS
This is why MCN rocks, comprehensive reviews with qualityu commentary.
great review guys!
The quality on these reviews have definitely gone up. Good job.
was waiting for this showdown :)
Great work!
might be a weird question but what watch was the guy on the right at the end wearing?
Those front disc on the ducati are huge.
I must say, I just bought a 2012 s1000rr...I love it. I've had Jap bikes forever, even though the Beamer is about 3-4k more in price, it's worth it. It's a Euro bike with all the trim'ns at a fraction of the Euro price. You can't lose with it, and look how it's dominating world superbike.
As a current BMW car owner it feels good to know the bikes they make are the best, as a motorcycle rider (I ride a 2007 YZFR-6 and a naked SV650s) I really wanted Ducati to come up on top, can't explain it. Great job MCN your videos are informative and well shot.
This is Pergusa race track in Sicily:) Nice I went there a few time it's a very fast circuit....I'm very curious to know their lap time!
waited long for this.. It's worth it.
damn i waited for this vid so long
Oh wow congrats on RSV4 purchase. What did you have before that? I desperately desperately want an RSV4 but feel I'd be better suited to a 675 triple or 750 I4 or something. This wouldn't be my first bike, its my 5th (last was Ducati MS) but I'd feel like a right eejit on track on the RSV4 if some1 passed me on a 600, so figure I'll get a 675 for a few months /a year, do Calif SBK school level 3 and 4, and then get the RSV4. The sound makes me go weak in the knees tho so I duno if i can resist!
Great group test but you know what's better? Not hearing wind noise all the time :P Please keep up this level of production value now MCN!
The Ducati 1199 is not just the sexiest of the bunch, it is a technical achievement far beyond anything that any other bike manufacturer can hope to achieve in the next couple of years. MCN knows this. They also know that other bike reviewers will have the Ducati as the clear winner. They just want to stand out among the crowd of reviewers by showing the audience that they can focus on details without getting swept away by the sexy. Just covering for past credibility issues.
I would love to ride these one day!
the wind just love MCN mic........
Yea, only MV does a rear end like that.
Sick bikes in this video.
MCN where have you been? You have been missed greatly!!
I just love the way the Ducati looks
Im planning on never getting rid of K5 as well. Although the allure of all this new technology is tempting, im very satisfied.
Not that poor. The k5-6 gsxr 1000 was and still is one of the finest liter bikes ever made, just ask any major motorcycling magazine. It's so good in fact, that it was used as a comparison base when the s1000rr was being developed. You still have an awesome bike.
Is that an F4 in the background at 3.07 ?
MCN SUX!!
Last in 2011,the rsv4 aprc was the best bike of the superbike shootout and even though nothing has changed on the rsv4 and neither at the bmw!!
SO HOW THE FUCK COULD BMW BE BETTER THIS YEAR WTIH LAST YEARS BIKE?
just got back from track day. all the fancy bikes were bringing up the rear. looking all fancy and slow.
MCN, could we have closed captions for those of us in a quiet work environment?
I wonder what the red lines and final gear ratios are in each gear for each of these bikes. That might tell the tale with respect to the BMW's advantage. That i4 is known for great overrev, but what's the tq at the wheel when you take into account the different gearing these things have....
these guys aren't Aprilia fans but I'm glad the comments realize its just their opinon.
i Drive a aprilia rsv1000r 07, and i realy want that rsv4 when i have the money ! love that v4 sound
The three Queens of Europe, and the world! Good job, Neevie!
Nice vid :)
You sir are a genius. KTM looks awesome and youre right, they should do more shootouts, I just told my father about the zx10 and BMW's speed catching up to the aprillia. AND I LOVE THE RSV4 my dad has 2 1000cc aprillias and i have the rs 125 APRilia is awesome .
You can drive your car 365 days a year and carry groceries/kids in it. For a lot of people in the world, $15k is a lot for only being able to ride it half the year and then the additional costs of being able to store it properly, keeping it serviced, etc. Not to mention, parts are also insanely expensive for this level of bike.
i was thinking to get one and do the same but i think i'll go with the ducati for now - i ride for fun and 1/10th of a second on a track or 2 mph more isn't a big deal to me
I think the revamped RS125 is called RS4 to differentiate it from the two-stroke version, and because its a replica of the RSV4. Or am I wrong?
Diffirent strokes for diffirent folks,if they could make a bike that goes like the bmw looks like the duc and sounds like the V4 that would be the ultimate bike, as it stands the V4 for me is the best it just makes me smile more than the other two and for my needs it is perfect.
Track times?
What are you talking about? I can hear them fine. They have made major improvements on the audio compared to 2-3 years ago.
Well said...
what about the green monster? zx10r?
Aprilia...FTW!!!! Although in the canyons today the Panigale is a beast.
well tell me what major changes has been done to it S1000RR rider??
Love the 2 blokes at 3:30 who know whats up and are rubber-necking looking at those bikes as if they were Ferraris! Apart from the noise, most people wouldn't even notice that this £50k's worth of bikes were any different from £25k's worth of Suzukis!
Im´ not a bike enthusiast bit i still like to see whats going on. This review was fine, thou I miss to see the Bikes a bit more. Would suggest to to get some good low cam shots on tarmac with a simple background to frame the bikes well - Add some graphics with the stats including price etc.This would help giving the review a bit more personality. Anyway Thanks :)
Hodgson is a great addition to the MCN team!
The Aprilia is by far the nicest. IMO.
It's been a long time since Ducati made a proper production bike below 600cc. Modern Ducati is about V engines with plenty of torque. What is a Ducati without that booming V sound?
Perhaps things will change, now that they're owned by Audi.
Aprilia made their name in 125 and 250 GP racing, so it makes sense for them to stick with it. Plus the RS125/RS250 is still a much loved bike. Coincidentally I just bought an RSV4 and was shocked by how similar the RS4 (125) looks, until you get close up.
No one can make better then Ducati in making of motorcycles.
right, with the stock gearing
What about the KTM RC8R ???
I would love a BMW, the insurance is a killer for me yet, few years time and I will look at getting one. Brilliant vid.
They are mate, but its going to be based massively on the Honda RC213V race bike not the classic RC30...(basically a tuned down version) apparently. But expect to pay over $100k.
MCN HAS IMPROVED ALOT. Bmw is really a huge company to compete with, but my heart goes out to ducati.
I'm sorry but what's the name of the track?
I just love when there's a clash of titans in the motorcycle world. All beautiful, and of course, European are still a heart-stopper.
Absolutely correct. The RS4 is a pretty impressive copy of it's bigger brother.
i hope honda would build a new V4 like in the past, like the old rc30 which had a lot of success! a new version of the cbr 1000rr , but v4 , like the motogp prototype
Aprilia's race ECU and Bazzazz and goof can adds 25hp but for a boat load of money.
RSV4 for me. V4, looks awesome, feels awesome. Is awesome. But if I'm honest, it'll be the Tuono v4r that I buy.
It appears that the best supersport track bike is still the BMW, they did an excellent job balancing everything, great great bike.
I really like MCN videos, and I appreciate they are free... But it's really hard to understand what you guys are saying sometimes. I don't know what camera you are using, but I think a boom-mounted mic, or even a cheap record player like iRiver with a lapel microphone, would improve your videos a lot.
How come the zx10r is not included in this test?
This is awesome. But it would be even better if we could have some more contestants, and some numbers. =)
why no lap times?
My BMW s1000rr license plates are "CLEAN AF" .
THIS WAS MADE ON MY BIRTHDAY :DDDD
I am 67 years old, and will take on anyone not from East Tennessee or Western North Carolina on my trusty CBR900RR. If you are from Florida, I'll ride my CBR 600 F2.
(When I was a child of 47, I set the lap record on the first CBR 900, but only until others showed up on this bike.)
It's all relative and all fun.
Wrong. Motociclismo (multiple magazine test) had the RSV4 Factory at over a second a lap faster than the HP4.
Well, there are more factors than that of speed involved in designing a bike. If speed was everything, then pretty much all of the worlds sports bikes would be neck and neck, like they are in professional racing.
The rider geometry of the 1199 looks SO much better than the 1198.
That Duc is sexy as hell but If my hard earned cash is going down I'm taking the BMW as well. It's still an excellent looking machine, great power and electronics package. Unfortunately I'm poor and still riding my K5 Gsxr 1000 but i love it too!!
Cool stuff, but like you wrote - motorcyclists seem to be maturing, and if we aren't doing track days then there are so many other bikes that are striking on their own terms for the ways we can, and do, ride. If I had the money I'd buy the Ducati and hang it up on a wall - I'm sure it's nice. If I have the time to ride, and don't want to haul bikes or risk losing 20-grand at a track day, then I need something that leaves my house and hits whatever I want to see... with gear and a tent.
The Rc8 does compete in ama superbike, but that series has gotten watered down. I don't think it's a factory effort either. What do we need to do force KTM to grow a pair and race in wsbk?
Finally a fair review from MCN !!! and the shock is that ducati is not the alpha male...
MAN WITH BIKES LIKE THIS MV-AGUSTA needs to do something quick!!!
the rc8 is an amazing bike but not as powerful or advanced as these. they featured that bike on last year's test. this year though the bike is a bit old i'm sad to say. love the bike but it needs updates to keep up.
All we can do is hope.
Disagree. Mercedes used to sell the approx £300k SLR the same time they sold a £15k A class, and today they sell the £150k SLS while also selling the £25k A Class, not to mention the £15k Smart ForTwo.
If you do that there's no competition at all.
Do you do trackdays? (not trying to get into a pissing contest with you, just wondering how it is on track).
Yeah I should just get the RSV4 and be done with it. Another reason I want it is that in Canada where I live, the speeding laws are Draconian and so a BMW S1000RR would not be in its element imho. Whereas a bike like the RSV4 or a Ducati is still interesting at low speeds due to its unique engine character.
V4 is navier beacoise need an opposite three to balnce the vibration
2013 MV Agusta F4!
Ducati 1199 is the bike that makes me want to learn how to ride and own a Ducati. ( i will learn on a cheaper bike though !!! ) !
so when will we FINALLY start seeing reviews on interesting european motocross and enduro 450 class and two stroke bikes like Benelli, Ossa, Husaberg, Husqvarna, TM, BMW, Aprilia?
hooray, now i know which expensive unattainable thing i want most ;) ;) seriously though good review and comparison.
If you could find a way to get 25-30 hp out of a fully built engine, they'd be winning WSBK with the right riders. The thing handles like a scalpel, but is down on power quite a bit. The Ducati is in a similar boat; think Checa at Monza, where he is left for dead down that runway-for-a-straight!
The RC8R is a severely under-appreciated bike.
i like this channel and all, but it bothers me that they don't test any bikes that are not as fast as the speed of light. I mean comon, i'm sure most people here can't afford those.
which will inevitable cost a lost more than a normal four door sedan costs?
Five years ago who would have thought a BMW would beat a Ducati on a track?