She speaks to the Jury because the Jury is contained of your average people like you and I. Jury duty they call it. Which is a huge kink in the system because many terms used in the legal system are things they don't know and can easily be misinterpreted. What she does is just brilliant in terms of getting through to these people. Who really might just work at a gas station or something.
Around 10'50 - and onwards : "Believing in unrealistic things". Like ...say 90 percent of the public in countries like the poorest ones, the religious ones, USA, Russia and the most militaristic and political ones... ? :) I guess that alone then is the diagnosis of the "average mind" or the "democracy voter". Sokrates, Sam Harris and Douglas Murray will nod and agree I think. The latter two being alive selling books will not admit it . But they know.
Yes. :) Sort of cutely devoted. Goodhearted for sure. Most probably a bit naive. Hard working I am pretty sure. Quite a difference from The angry amber thing in many ways.
The histrionic one is the bigger issue for them. They're trying to establish that she's the kind of a person to write that article and destroy Depp on purpose.
That's literally not how it works ffs This argument is senseless. People with BPD *are* mentally ill (especially if untreated), if that didnt effect their behavior well they.. wouldn't be, catch my drift? Calling it an excuse implies the individual has more autonomy and order than they actual do. It is called a disorder for a reason.
This is not a way to excuse her actions btw, just to point out you and a lot of people are fundamentally ignorant about this illness. We need to find a middle, understand that offering empathy to those with mental illness isn't necessarily the same as excusing their behaviour.
@@tcrijwanachoudhury I offer empathy only to those who work on their flaws and don’t project them onto others. I am very familiar with this disorder and I stand by my reminder that her having BPD doesn’t justify her actions, just like serial killers’ crimes can’t be justified by their antisocial personality disorder (just an exaggerated example to prove my point if you happened to misunderstand me).
@@alang6238 That's not grammatically incorrect. You can even begin sentences with "And" as well and still be accurate. She's clear and concise with her answers.
Good observation! Yes, because she’s an expert witness (as am I in a different field). Expert witnesses are trained to speak to the jury when answering a question. Lay witnesses typically don’t have training like that.
This is mind boggling. Im a psych student and Personality disorders are deeply complicated. The idea that a psychologist is going to be able to explain what a personality disorder is, and do it briefly and clearly for a court is insane. Obviously she is skipping over a lot, but wow, very impressive. It’s enough information to get the essence across, but it’s also important to understand what the attorney asked her. He basically asked, “so how does a watch work, and please explain it quickly and clearly for non watch makers?” And then she did!!!! That’s freaking amazing!
As someone who is currently in college for psychology, this lady is an inspiration. I've never felt more enlightened and motivated to continue doing what I'm trying to do.
i really want to get into psychology too and this whole video makes me want to do it even more. being able to accurately describe and understand how people are feeling is so fascinating to me.
If I can offer any advice to you guys, I would recommend narrowing down which specific area/areas you are interested in most, and research what job you would eventually like to do. Then actually go either speak to people in that job or shadow them to see if that’s what you really want. I have always been interested in psychology. It’s literally fascinating to me to figure out how why people do what they do and how they think and behave. I wanted to be a counselor, so that’s what I did. Have my masters degree in social work actually, which was nice because there are SO many different areas you can work in with social work. Some clinicians prefer hiring a social work degree over just a counseling degree. I’ve considered eventually getting a doctorate, but lately I’ve been thinking not to because my last six years I ended up being a stay at home mom instead. Lol. I still research psychology all the time though! It’s just so interesting to me. One area I’m always looking into is personality disorders actually. I really recommend everyone become accustomed with those actually, because everyone will encounter one in your life eventually. Before this lady testified I assumed Amber had a personality disorder just from listening to her tapes and hearing about behaviors of hers. Mostly the tapes though. I guessed most likely borderline, but thought possible narcissistic or histrionic personality disorder. This psychologist is incredible. You can just tell. They found such a gem. I couldn’t believe Ambers female lawyer! She was so unprofessional! With the muffins nonsense. Just grasping for straws. Anything to try to make her look bad. It’s ridiculous. She still kept her cool and stayed professional though and looked so much better than that ridiculous lawyer.
forensic psychologists are amazing. we had a psychopath in our family hire one to gain visitation rights to a child, she tore his lies to pieces and substantiated the coherent story of the mother, who wasn't particularly smart, but she wasn't lying. I've got the most respect for forensic psychologists.
The fact that people on the internet who have no expertise in the mental health field dare to say that she talked too much and is "annoying" is mind boggling to me. She was basically asked to explain very complex things (that people study for years and write whole essays about) in a few seconds - a task that is almost impossible and she mastered it! It was obvious that the legal team wanted to overwhelm her with the questions but she stayed calm
Those are probably the people who felt called out and shown their own mental disorders. Generally, those who need help the most refuse it and try to drag down physiologist.
Not to mention borderline personality disorder is an extremely complicated ilness. I have it myself and I am still learning new things about it everyday.
@@abomination4503 many disorders are complicated. It was amazing that the Dr. was able to explain the basics of Boarderline personality disorder. Plus with it being a cluster B means there are overlapping symptoms from other personality disorders in the same cluster. That makes it much harder to pin down the exact disorder.
Yes ! She's so completely grounded and fluent in her field. And if there's a definition of healthy and balanced and professional..she truly looks to be it.
Dr Shannon Curry’s career is going to skyrocket even further after this. She’s articulate, incredibly insightful, intelligent and an skilled communicator.
She’s talking crap though. Read the psychopath test by mark Ronson, people should be very wary of this kind of thing because if you get accused of being manipulative it’s next to impossible to prove that you aren’t.
What does skyrocketing career as a psychologist even mean? lol her prominence and media profile certainly did if she'd choose to become a "Dr. Phil" type person instead of a professional. So she's gonna get some Twitter followers and maybe invited to shows like "The View" or sth. But I doubt she has any issue whatsover as a PhD holder, rich people psychologist in terms of business. No coincidence she was approached by Depp's legal team.
Agreed 💯 think it's safe to say Ms. Amber felt/feel entitled to control the narrative and everything thing else in her & Mr. Johnny dysfunctional relationship. If she hit the man she wanted and chose to hit him. There weren't little voices in her head saying "heifer grab a pan or pop him upside the head". If he walked away he did exactly what I've told my own sons to do and a controlling narcissistic abuser can't handle that level of maturity because by ending an argument in peace means you're taking control back. As a DV survivor since childhood through majority of adulthood, you recognize the real. These two are toxic together and did the best thing. End marital ties. Now go heal.
True. The unhealthy thought processes, difficulty regulating emotion, viewing their inner thoughts/opinions as fact and “splitting” probably make it more likely though!
Her testimony was actually very educational. For instance, the way she explained the difference between depression and personality disorder was sublime. It will stick with me forever.
Hmm but she could have mentioned how depression does affect your personality in so many ways. She made it way too straightforward by suggesting the personality is completely separate/untouched by depression.
I am in my last year of psychology and I agree with almost everything that she said and of course it was educational... but just that part was not, as kat page comments the comparison she made between personality and depression was not entirely right, it made it look like depression didn't affect different aspects of life. also, for example, there are different types of depression, it is not always an "episode that comes and goes". So, I hope it doesn't stick with you forever.
@@katpage9378 Let's just say that she provided abnormally much of data within a small range of time, in the most effective manner. That is pretty good, but then again like someone pointed out earlier; that should be no problem for a well educated character in that context.
@@KibyNykraft I agree. She definitely seems to know what she’s talking about. To be honest I think she’s getting more praise for what she says than she otherwise would because she’s pretty. This isn’t to be rude, just observing.
This woman is a definition machine. If someone asked me for basic definitions in my professional field, I would be stumped, and then give one in my own words. She gives perfectly worded definitions without hesitation.
Yeah she’s good at memorizing theory and convey it to others. That doesn’t mean she’s smart. Following rules or practices that have been laid out by others isn’t too difficult. And before anyone is going to attack me thinking that I am jealous or something , I’m not. As a specialist in my field and having a post grad degree , I just think it’s part of my basic knowledge to know the definition of the terms in my field
I can usually BS my way through technical questions by making my eyes wide, looking side to side, gulping and peppering in some uhs and ums. It's a learned skill.
I’m a psychology student and for our lecture yesterday we strictly talked about this case. It was a very effective way to learn more about personality disorders and we all agreed this lady is amazing at articulating the psychological science
There's a book by br Jessica Taylor you might find interesting its called sexy but psycho. It's a weird title but it's really interesting. I wonder why amber was assessed for mental health but Johnny wasn't.
@@emmawelsh5336 It's privileged unless one of the parties raises the issue. Amber raised the issue by claiming that Johnny gave her PTSD. The psychologist found that AH does NOT have PTSD, although she was "feigning it" early on in the assessment.
@@Vita_Voitane maybe she got drunk after Johnny Depp left and went crazy ... at least they were not hurting children. They puff this up to this extent but hardly allowed anything to leak out from the Ghislaine Maxwell trial. They deliberately messed that one up.
The amount of people calling her annoying, saying she talked too much, in the live was astounding. I loved her insightful knowledge, what a fascinating subject and human.
VALYA- That was all the uneducated who can't concentrate on one topic, they easily get bored with stuff they don't comprehend. I saw that too. As a matter of fact I answered some, whether they saw my replies I'm unaware cuz I didn't see any responses.
@@virginiaryno2631 That's true ,but this is also a cultural question for sure. In America it is more accepted that someone talks vividly and show off, then in for example Scandinavia or Japan, where it is more seen as comical or pretenciousness. Yet there are so big mixes of people in America from all over the world, that there will naturally be parts of the audience who sniffs at her show :) It could be due to career goals or due to just idealism, or enthusiasm of one's profession, probably a combination that she gets so excited. If I was to be direct I'd say the shrink is a bit hyperactive but that is in her case something that has turned out good- more energy, more career potential. In Scandinavia the doc would not have been allowed (the judges would correct her immediately and told her to calm down and stick to the questions with shorter answers). So this is a kind of funny freak show to watch for people here in north Europe. To us quite a lot of americans are pretty freaky in one way or another. But ironically that also puts a lot of attention to America and sells it as a sort of product.
i googled histrionic personality disorder and omg - Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) is defined by the American Psychiatric Association as a personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive attention-seeking behaviors, usually beginning in early childhood, including inappropriate seduction and an excessive desire for approval. - makes sense
Histrionic was a disorder observed by psy hologists before until then it spread out to more specific other disorders including Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD), Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD), Sociopathic Personality Disorder (SD or SPD), and etc. She (Amber Heard) falls under there or with all such categories.
It’s good that she came at this point, it let the jury see the whole narrative so far wrapped up and the doctor’s statement was given a solid foundation.
So well articulated, you know she knows what she is talking about. Amber's layer wanted to lessen her diagnoses by saying she only had 8 years practicing. Even if that were true and even if 8 years isn't considered career worthy experience her knowledge on the matter demands professional respect.
Exactly!!!!! My gynecologist is 10y old experience but he knows well what he is doing ........ and explains it very clear ..... am with him since 2017 and had my recent birth And won't change him He follow up step by step And makes it all sound scientific Not just like regular doctors blabla
Personable, facing the jury, patient, well-spoken, thorough, and putting her thoughts in a digestible manner for the jury -- what more could you ask for? This would've made a huge impression on me as a juror. They tried to discredit her by saying she hasn't done much testimony or she wasn't board-certified, but she's licensed and she speaks with a profound authority. What a home run for Depp's team. Her comments about exaggeration would've stuck with me all the way into the jury room.
You guys think this woman is brilliant. She was hired to find a specific diagnosis which was entered on pleadings before she interviewed Heard. This smacks of unprofessionalism. Unethical. She cannot get these diagnoses in one assessment. $$$$$$$
For what it’s worth as someone with diagnosed bpd who has worked pretty much my whole life to be able to live semi normally and not do harm those I love. I don’t like pushing a stigma but we can absolutely be toxic, and abusive in all the ways possible. But if helped we can stop hurting people and ourselves. I hope Johnny gets justice that he deserves! No one deserves to go through what he’s gone through no matter what mental illness his partner has
My partner has BPD and something I worry about is the coverage of this trial and how it could affect her, BPD already tends to get a bad wrap but it seems a lot of news outlets wanna focus on the diagnosis and I worry it'll only add to the stigma :( my partner is the kindest, sweetest, most caring person I know and has worked so hard to not be defined by her diagnosis and its always a shame to see a diagnosis like this being the forefront of a case like this and attached to someone who has behaved so horribly
Could you explain what bpd? Because i checked online and it mostly says “fears if abandonment, impulsiveness, anger.” Could you define though? Like what causes all of these emotions?
I love how Amber is just sitting there writing down god knows what. Everything is recorded and transcribed by the court, she does this to hide her emotions and its blatant how much she struggles with hearing evidence that doesn't support her. There are very few times in my life when I have ever seen someone so intent on taking notes or writing something and this moment should not be one for her. If she was innocent she would be much more present and attentive to the speaker, which is in reality. Not the thoughts in her own head which she is writing down, its obvious she is trying to escape the moment.
She wrote down "Real trauma victims recall smells and sounds they heard - note to self say I smelt things in my testamony coming up" or something of that nature I'm sure. Watch out for that and also watch for her saying something along the lines of she was sick of being treated like a dog (as johnny said this and she frantically started scribbling right then). I think she's making up her testamony live as the case goes on 😂
It’s clear from hearing her talk that she enjoys her field. She gets a smile every time she explains different parts of her career. That’s so nice to see!! Sorry I know that has nothing to do with the case but I just liked seeing it.
Not defending Amber's heinous actions, but my wife has BPD and she is a beautiful person. She's sometimes argumentative, but she's never been abusive. She sometimes struggles to communicate or to be understood, but she would never do anything violent or manipulative like Amber has done. I'm willing to believe Amber has BPD, it makes a lot of sense, but BPD doesn't make you an evil person. Nice people can have it too.
@Kyra You’re literally commenting on a video in which a PhD level clinical psychologist is explaining under oath what her diagnosis is. And you’re saying she’s wrong. Amazing.
Interesting how Johnny's lawyers allow her to speak and explain these complex psychology terms while Amber's lawyers cut her off. Almost like they don't want the jury to understand what she's saying and see her expertise.
Dr curry makes direct eye contact with the jury throughout because she understands its ultimately the jury that needs the truth to be unveiled. God bless Dr curry for this brilliant testimony.
She's a top noch pro in her field. Eye contact is key to transparent two way communication. Not only words counts. Many don't recognize this... They talk differently than their body express.
Michael Jackson's was pretty similar - the prosecution got completely destroyed there too. The difference is we get to watch the prosecution's agonising self-inflicted death this time and Depp's cleared his name already.
I wonder why she isnt board certified. Genuinly have no idea what the requirements are in the usa but that would make me pause before going to a therapist
As someone with BPD she is how I wish all clinicians would represent the field of psychology. She's empathetic while talking about a very stigmatized mental illness. She's correct, we do look at the world differently and our diagnosis is not an excuse but rather an explanation for why we think the way we do. But also imagine being that intelligent and articulate because someone could have a gun to my head asking about what I do for work or anything that I studied in undergrad and I would just simply have to die.
It is unfortunate however, that this will cause everyone to stigmatize and demonize us even more. Some of these comments are so evil towards those of us with BPD.
@@Dielawn69 that’s fair, it’s great that you personally haven’t been penalized for your mental illness, but again that doesn’t mean that it doesn’t happen and that there isn’t still stigma around BPD. People understand and empathize with mental health but it’s more so with depression, anxiety, eating disorders, illnesses that affect a larger population and directly impact them in some way. That isn’t the case with most mood or personality disorders, I agree mental health is becoming less of a taboo discussion but mental health is multifaceted and it’s difficult to conclude that one disorder is no longer stigmatized just because you haven’t been directly faulted for it, or that because mental health as a whole is being accepted. Thank you for your comment and the opportunity to open a discussion.
It's not the disorder that makes you reprehensible. It's the refusal to get help for it, and stubbornly cling to the notion of you're well and dandy, while people around you have to suffer you. My mother has it, and it was a nightmare growing up. For me that's where my line of tolerance is. If you're bettering yourself and seeking treatment, excellent, but that line is what makes AH disgusting to me. No self reflection, no care for people around her.
You can tell she actually is fond of her career as a psychologist and helping people by the way she speaks and educates the court room. I feel like as though, I'm back in a college seminar listening to my psychology professor.
I'm totally impressed by this woman's findings on Amber Heard. She determined that AMber has Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) which is defined by the American Psychiatric Association as a personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive attention-seeking behaviors, usually beginning in early childhood, including inappropriate seduction and an excessive desire for approval. That pretty much wraps her up!
@@TimApple. she’s clearly very intelligent, and she’s beautiful as well. I would suspect that she has quite a few folks that appreciate her rare combo of beauty and brains! Seriously it was great to listen to her thorough and thoughtful testimony.
When the Forensic Psychologist starts to discuss Amber Heard's diagnosis of having BPD and Histrionics, she starts to write in her notepad more. Then when the doctor discusses her rage issues, you see Heard writing madly in her yellow notepad. I got that she was higher triggered and because she can't speak right now, she tries to use writing to not only look intelligent but is also most likely using the writing as a way to control her rage issues. Just my opinion. I also viewed this from another channel that showed the whole trial.
Listening to her talk was like listening to a river running. Really impressed with how she summarised a complex issue and explained it so fluidly. Amber’s reactions were equally interesting…
:( so many conclusions in my mind right now... like, I don't get why Amber's lawyer stood up. I honestly think this doesn't really help Johnny Depp's case for people to know she has a personality disorder. Could this be him still looking after her? Caring for her? Doesn't this reduce her sentence, if she's found guilty?
I had a lot of close friends with borderline and histrionic personality disorder, and although they were toxic, I could tell they truly did care and love the people around them. They needed professional help, and it is so hard to improve on that when it gets bad
They are good people. They need help. So does Amber. I honestly do think, that she did not mean any harm. But wasn‘t aware of her actions. Maybe lost somehow.
Nice to see some compassion in this stoning in the town square. People should be held accountable for their actions, no question. But her sadness is palpable. These diagnoses should not be confused with ASPD. They feel and love, they were just broken, usually very early on.
NO ONE could have explained more clearly or more easily understably, what a diagnosis is, how it is used, what it means to have or give, and all about said diagnosees, than this woman. She's incredible and if I ever need a psychological witness I want her on my team.
that ah is one crazy woman? she destroyed someone's life, not to mention their career. if she was capable of understanding the consequences of her actions and feeling even a shred of remore, I think that shrivelled up heart might just explode.
@@AnikaJarlsdottr " been obvious all along ". I believe the OP is referring to Amber Heards diagnosis of having a personality disorder. Although, I think it would only be obvious to those who have had a similar kind of relationship that involved a manipulative nature.
Yes 100 %. When the audio tapes were released a few years ago, of Amber and Johnny's arguments, it was plain to see Amber had/has been suffering with severe mental disorders. Anyone displaying Amber's behavior would immediately be considered a candidate for psychotherapy. Period.
@@yaze3316 You dont have to have been in a similar relationship to identify a mental illness. We do it in the daily, its our way of understanding somebodies mind. In terms of it "being clear" through the case we have been displayed with many reasons that suggest AH has BPD. Not necessarily a negative comment to make, just that we are finally seeing this coming from a trained professional.
As someone who has a diagnosis of BPD and leads a very stable life with kindness and compassion for others- please remember that disorders are on a spectrum and every person is different. I know others who have BPD as well that are absolutely wonderful people. Not everyone with BPD will treat people like Amber Heard does.
Can confirm, from a "dated someone with BPD" perspective. I had a short romance / friendship with a woman with BPD who was entirely self-aware and it was actually *me* who ran more of a risk of mistreating *her* because at the time in my life, I was very "hot and cold" about committing to anyone, and she called me out on it and reminded me that "here again gone again" behavior isn't going to work with her BPD. She's happily married now in the years since and I think in the case of BPD, self-awareness really helps with relationships: it helps both people steer clear of BPD-caused feedback loops that result in situations, similar to this JD/AH trial, but it also helps people like me realize how certain behaviors can be just as potentially harmful to the person *with* BPD. In other words, a person with BPD isn't a villain just because they suffer with it, and just because you *don't* have BPD doesn't mean you're not the bad guy in relationships, either. (I left this comment for passers-by who might typically see Emily's comment and roll their eyes out of disbelief, misogyny, or paranoia that their own "person of interest" with BPD is going to "pull an Amber Heard" and who might only believe otherwise if they saw "a man who dated someone with BPD" agreeing.)
YESSS self awareness is the most important thing I also have BPD and I’ve been getting help for years. Not only do I feel sane and peaceful but people around me are also so much more happier to be around me.
I always hear people saying: "Why did he or she stay so long?" - it's not an easy question for certain people. Let's remember that in order to have a successful abuser, you need to find a good victim that is unwilling to leave. As we can all see in this case, not only she has mental issues but also our Johnny grew up untreated from the childhood and adolescence mental and psychological wounds of a dysfunctional family. Johnny escaped, like many do, from the pain and shame through legal/illegal drugs and alcohol. Sweeping our inner struggles under the rug it's simply an illusion. The 'out of sight, out of mind' kind of thinking is not healthy. Many of us had dysfunctional families growing up. It's definitely not our fault, however once you have the means of getting help, you must address these issues! It's very important for our own health and it helps us to make good choices in life. I have no doubt that Johnny fell in love with Amber's outer beauty and missed the signs of an abuser. Great lesson for all of us. Unfortunately, for many of us is already too late as we recognize this type of behavior in our own skin. Sad but true.
This is an excellent post and needs to be seen more. It is very important that people recognize this early on and get help at as young an age as possible.
Yes,except JD already had alcoholism n drug addiction for decades before AH. Its a progressive conditiin,which is very hard to handle for a mate,in the best of times. And why is there no mention of what happened to her as a child?. Im pro Johnny,btw.
Dr. Curry’s memory and communications are fantastic! She doesn’t hesitate, doesn’t falter and is very thorough. She explained complex topics very clearly and succinctly.
i loved hearing her talk. she described everything so clearly and well and didnt pause and it truly felt like she was explaining everything directly to us. like a caring teacher.
I was married to a person who had acute and distinct Borderline Personality Disorder, refused to get counselling, attacked me in my sleep, injured me multiple times, pursued me relentlessly when I tried to retreat, engaged in profound character assassination against me to our friends and family when I refused to comply with her demands, emptied my bank account, ran up my credit cards, took my kids and married the new guy four days after the divorce was final. Listening to Depp gives me bad flashbacks.
@@matildafaltyn6253 I wish it had been, she nearly destroyed me but I made it out. She destroyed 3 more guys after me, was arrested for domestic violence and check fraude and drug my kids through all of it. Very sad movie plot if you ask me.
I was thinking that the entire time while I was watching her. Her body language seems uneasy and uncomfortable. Trying to seem unfazed, calm and collected by this woman was dropping straight bombs! You could tell she was frantic through the whole thing.
@jazinegrrrl she’s holding back tears her head lowers and lowers and I would kill to see what she’s doodling but she knows now she’s screwed she dosnt know how to hold herself she’s so self conscious now esp after the diagnosis part
I would say rather annoying lol. She's so obviously embarrased and the way she deals with it is actualy funny. Can't watch aquaman with her in it and take her seriously anymore.
Not really, everyone makes their own actions. She chose to he violent and she chose to be horrible. If you expect change then make a change. Get help, that's why it's there
Strong eye contact, speaking loudly and clearly so that she's easily understood, the small smile as she explained to the room the multiple factors of her job and how she came to the diagnoses she did...she's very clearly an educator and is capable of teaching the next generation of mental health professionals from what I've seen of her.... Plus, she knows the muffin man. 😏
As a psychiatrist it was refreshing to hear the thorough explanations she gave. Just remember patients with borderline personality disorder aren’t happy with the way they behave. It can be a very embarrassing diagnosis that unfortunately gets stigmatized especially in the mental health field. I know nothing about Amber Heard but I hope she will seek the treatment that she needs to help better manage it primarily through DBT.
Happy. I've known several individuals with it who become overjoyed when they spread the disease inside them into the brains of unwilling victims, your statement is as ignorant as saying that autistic people can't be manipulative.
but her narcissism gets in the way. She feels she's done nothing wrong. I'm surprised that wasn't mentioned. Narcs are hard to treat because they feel other people are the problem.
I just love how she answered what is personality disorder. She didn't go directly with it and explained first what is personality. I learned a lot from her. Very informative and educational. I also liked the fact that she looked at the jury while explaining.
She had a job to do and she did it! Enough said! She had zero reason to get emotional over this nor take anything personally. She simply knew her job and did her job.
She definitely knows what she is talking about. It's so refreshing to see someone speak eloquently, and without constantly using filler words like "uh, um, ya know."
Although I agree that she presented herself well, she said "uh'' and ''um'' once per sentence almost. I wouldn't have noticed if I didn't read comments well listening to the video though....
@@SimplyJorgasmic yea it is common for all people to occasionally stumble with the flow of their speech. My point was that she didn't faulter too much when trying to convey her knowledge on the subject.
Having a borderline mother, I cannot tell you how scary it is growing up with someone who can hurt you at any time and pretend like it never happened. Having bpd is no excuse to hurting others, man or woman Edit: many seem to misinterpret my comment as if I’m saying all borderlines are abusers which was never my intent, this was my experience growing up with a narcissistic borderline mother sorry if I’ve offended many, but can only speak from experience of one individual
I can totally relate with you...I went through the exact same thing and I'm now in therapy for it since it caused me to have ptsd sadly...hope you are doing okay and all the best🤗
I’m sorry that you had to deal with that. Stay conscious that your mom’s illness was never and will never be your fault nor are you responsible for her mental health. 💔
Same. The worst part is how they sincerely seem to believe that they were a good parent and not abusive at alllll... The disconnect between actual reality and the way a person with BPD experiences reality is one of the worst things about the disorder.
my mom too. Although not as bad as Amber, my mom tends to make up things convenient to her interests I'm glad I was able to witness the fact to catch her lying.
I have had a diagnosis of BPD for many many years now. I am a social worker and I work hard each day to cope with the disorder. Most of the success for me has been a great psychiatrist, medication and self-discipline. We are not evil people and with the right ingredients- we are strong and empathic people. 😊
Well said!! I'm also a diagnosed borderline, we are working our butts off to cope with this disorder and live fulfilling lives with love and compassion. We are not all bad people!
Amber stared at Johnny in all of his testimonies these past few days, barely looking away. Today she couldn’t look at Dr. Curry for more than just a few moments, which indicates so much. In my personal opinion I think Amber has not only a bit of jealousy toward her, but more obviously this must feel like a deep personal attack because when someone doesn’t want to admit the truth to themselves but deep inside they still know the truth, it feels like an attack. This is just so crazy to witness.
The envy is clearly all on the part of the messy haired psychologist, talking about Amber Heard being obsessed with attractiveness. It's the psychologist who would like to have Amber Heard's natural beauty.
I think this was clear from the start. How she can't handle him walking away,violent reactions,disordered eating... BPD is horrible thing to live with. Hopefully she's getting help.
Yea had an ex who was like this, Wouldn't let me leave her house, had depression, anxiety, eating disorders and mood swings all over the place. Never knew anything about BPD until about 2 yrs later. Suddenly it all clicked. Seemed like such a nice genuine girl for the first 2 or 3 months
@@daniellap8939 I know it's difficult. But also these people usually seek help after all,cause of all the unpleasent symptoms. It's also possibly to manage with teraphy.
This lady is the reason why borderline has such a stigma. I have borderline but I have dedicated years to intensive therapy including DBT, CBT, interpersonal, and regular psychiatry of course. I live a happy, normal life and certainly don't hurt my husband like this monster. Borderline is NO excuse for her behavior... if she wanted to put in the work and change her life, she could, but she just didn't care to. People like that are the worst...
I am also recovering and aware of my BPD disorder. It took me a long time but it's doable. I honestly think she has more NPD than BPD. She does have traits but I don't agree with the full diagnosis. I experienced trauma and due to that I formed BPD. I have always been kind and loving but lashed out in fear of abandonment. I had all nine traits and I hate it that you only have to have five to have BPD. In my mind, its not right. But anyway, you are right about the stigma. Amber is vicious and cruel. I am not like her.
@@sayitaintso9576 One often finds overlap in Cluster B personality traits in a given individual, e.g., someone who meet criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder can decompensate to Borderline functioning under conditions creating great distress, or a person w/ BPD can load highly on narcissistic traits as well. The common denominators of Cluster B symptoms (and granted, it's not a perfectly consistently taxonomy, but one that's also to a degree a cultural construction/set of decisions by the researchers and advocates in the field based upon sets of research data and clinical experience) are 'counter-social traits'- if one wants to get somewhat psychodynamic in their conceptualization, one can characterize these Cluster B traits as frequent, even chronic dysfunctional behaviors that serve to control, exploit, or aggress against others (or even oneself) as defenses against the anxiety, psychological hurt, and even response of alarm to one's predominantly unconscious experience of ego deficits in relationship to oneself and others. Kinda going down a rabbit hole here. I'm not particularly dynamically-oriented- I'm a behaviorist. And I'm no Shannon Curry (the psychologist witness)- brevity and clarity are not generally my strong suits!
@@maxhirsch7035 Thanks for the explanation and I understand the comorbidity. I have been diagnosed with PTSD, clinical depression and BPD. I know how someone with BPD walks, talks and breaths. I am the professional more than the professional. If someone has only got their information from books and research, they are in second place to the person who is has experienced the disorder first hand. They are not using the NPD diagnosis because they can claim that everyone has a bit of narcissism but everyone does not have BPD traits. She is certainly histrionic but primarily NPD and BPD secondary.
@@ceciliadominguez4591 This is true, however even before you get a diagnosis you will usually sense that something is very wrong with your life. Compared to the people around us, people with BPD often have extremely unstable relationships, sense of identity, personality traits, moods, confidence... at its worst untreated sometimes we can hardly keep jobs or try to kill ourselves. So I feel that she must have been aware on some level that she needed help?
This was simple and pure unbiased testimony, Dr. Curry is a true woman of her work, incredibly well-spoken and absolutely educated in her field. The breakdown and the psychology report, it's just scientific fact that she's giving us here. No need for cue cards or leading from Johnny's team, she knows what she's talking about.
@@pasqualinamichelaconsiglio9391 This may be a hot take but her having a GF is more than likely her hoping she will be shielded under the LGBT umbrella and free from criticism.
Just to be clear, it doesn’t justify Amber’s actions and it doesn’t change the fact that Johnny has much suffered that she ever had. She is a monster no matter what she is diagnosed.
she destroyed a man's life and career, a diagnosis is not a golden ticket to avoid those consequences. ah has been divorced from reality for a very long time, she doesn't know the meaning of accountability and even if she loses this case, I still dont think she will ever understand. she is a nasty piece of work and I hope JD can regain even a glimmer of the life he used to have before he met her.
It doesn't. But even psychologists are warned when learning in academy, about treating BPD patients, but not because of discrimination... Sadly 😞 of course most of them get treatment but with therapists that are very aware that they are difficult to treat
Johnny's name has been cleared in the public eye and his honour restored. The verdict of the trial will just be a cherry on top. He has already won I believe. Way to go Johnny.
I have so much admiration for this woman, she is so articulate. As someone who is a stutterer and has a terrible fear of talking in social situations, I can only watch in wonder!
This Woman is so smart and articulating. I love the way she talks and how she explains things. This would be someone I would most definitely feel comfortable around. Wish I had a therapist like this when I did therapy.
People need to have in mind though that not all people with Borderline behaves as evil and manipulative as Amber does. We don't need more stigma around this disorder! People with bpd already suffers enough from society's prejudices.
My sister has BPD, and while we don't speak and don't have a relationship anymore, I can vividly remember how she behaves. Watching this trial has been fascinating because Amber seems to exhibit all of the exact same characteristics, and one thing I know for sure about my sister, is that sitting in a courtroom, while a psychologist explained in detail that she had Borderline, would have made her absolutely lose her mind. I've watched a ton of these clips, and in most of them, Amber appears withdrawn, distant, uninterested and unconvinced by whatever is happening in the courtroom at that moment. Watching her in this footage, her eyes are constantly darting around the room, except for when she is visibly trying not to appear too interested, and starts writing furiously. It's extremely clear (in my opinion) that this is by far the most uncomfortable part of the trial so far, if not the only part that has really bothered her. The one thing that people who suffer from BPD fear more than ANYTHING else, is rejection. Having her deepest flaws put on display like this/her psyche analyzed in front of the world is some of the worst punishment she could endure... (Not an Amber supporter - Just remarking on the situation from my own point of view/experiences.)
amber is disassociating to protect her faux reality. she literally did not look up very much at all when the dr was speaking. happy to hear you got free from your sis, but i know it's hard bc its your sister.
She's literally monotone and expressionless which any attorney would advise their client to do. Judging her based on her sitting there and listening is beyond biased.
This woman knows how to do this right. When she was interrogated by AH lawyers she wore glasses just answering obvious questions in monotone voice. Questioned by JD’s lawyers she dropped the glasses and her tone of voice is more welcoming and softer, yet still professional. I even doubted for a second it was the same person myself. Very important testimony 👏
But which woman is she really? This is not such a good tactic. The jury might interpret her change in appeaeance as an intentional ploy. Her hair is a mess!
I just did a semester project in grad school over cluster b personality disorders (which includes both borderline and histrionic) and WOW she is so well spoken, I’m surprised her legal team seemed like they have NO idea what personality disorders are.
Starting at 9:45 you can see how overwhelmed AH's legal team is starting to feel by hearing all the questions the Dr. will do for the clinical assessment 🤭
You can tell how intelligent she is by how carefully, yet how bravely and professionaly she is speaking. And she gets her facts across the board, and makes no compromises on a single word if it is not the exact truth
Can you please explain to me how she was able to do this? I see it, but like how? I’m really curious as to how she was able to see him and see what he’s wearing, then mimic it? Thanks
@@Hippie_faithe ok so if his hair is in a ponytail the next day her hair was in a ponytail. Go back to the 1st week the first day Johnny wore a bee pin in his tie the next day she also wore a suit jacket and tie. Tge tie had a bee on it. Just go back look at only the way she emulates him.
Just because someone is diagnosed with BPD doesn’t mean they have a right to hurt others. And, just because someone has BPD doesn’t mean they are monster. It’s a spectrum.
She is not a narcissist. If you can't even get these diagnostic facts straight, how can you rely on your own biased judgement of unconditional support of a man who is an alcoholic, drug user and best friend of Marilyn Manson.
Anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of personality disorders would immediately recognize from all of the audio recordings we have heard that Amber fits the profile of a classic borderline/histrionic.
Yes. In the interest of avoiding an unethical diagnosing of her I refrained from specifics but I've always said AH is a cluster b. She screams it, it would seem ironically.
@@raz0rcarich99 No, not a professional, but I lived with a diagnosed BPD. I've seen the traits. It's not my place to say I "think" AH has them. I've always said I see signs of it though of her being disordered. Casually throwing out a armchair diagnosis isn't helpful. Saying she exhibits signs of a cluster b, it going pretty far on its own with out proper testing. I'm not qualified to diagnose.
As a psychology student it is really informative and interesting to follow this trial, especially this testimony (for obvious reasons) but I just can't help to be irritated by the fact that it is all broadcast for the whole world to see. I'm from Germany and I'm pretty sure this kind of broadcasting is completely illegal here. This is the most intimite and personal stuff they're talking about and it would be uncomfortable (but necessary) to do infront of all the people in the courtroom - but the whole world?! Does anybody know how this decision to make the trial public is made? And what about protecting personal information (like medical info) of all parties involved?
Not defending the publicity. Rather, I think the explanation or reasoning is that Depp is suing for defamation against him-- Heard has taken away his career, ruined his mentality, and wants to besmirch his name even further. This broadcasting would be proof of his innocence, to those that may think he would win due to bias in the jury or something
I think in US they can film trials but yes I'm a psychology student also in UK and regardless of what she's done surely her diagnosis is private and confidential, I mean she is wicked but she is mentally ill so it's got to be treated more sensitively. I don't think this is the way, make he take down statement he hit her, get her in major therapy and both of them get on with their lives
Well ultimately in the US, all court cases are open to the public as they are public record. Not all trials are streamed, but it’s becoming more and more common. I appreciate it being public record, but don’t go out of my way to search or sit and read/ watch all cases that become accessible. It’s just different ethnocentrism. Plus, a lot of cold cases are being relooked at because normal citizens are finding things that fell through the cracks many years ago.
@@ednanonono I try to find info about this online. Would you know where to find this info? I would really love to have some sources when someone attacks me for criticizing JD and his legal team.
The way that amber spent the entire time doodling, rolling her eyes, and just staring off into space everytime the therapist spoke just really irked me like girl.. how u gonna fake PTSD and then act like that
I think she may be trying to act like she doesn’t care so that she doesn’t seem vulnerable. Having a diagnosis like this, which is so stigmatized, talked about right in front of you to a courtroom and broadcast to the whole world would probably be mortifying and horrible. Plus she is probably questioning her entire self and identity and I can only imagine how scary a diagnosis like this would be. Idk tho I could be wrong
I'm a psychiatrist and i totally agree with this forensic psychologist. Seems like a consistent personality evaluation, specially in terms of the histrionic traits, which we can easily seen in this court!
If Dr Curry was a teacher, id attend her class. Its nice she breaks down what she’s trying to explain for us to understand it better than just saying “its facts. Deal with it” or “if you dont know, look it up later”
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You know she's an educator when she explains everything not only to the interviewer but also to the whole audience.
She speaks to the Jury because the Jury is contained of your average people like you and I. Jury duty they call it. Which is a huge kink in the system because many terms used in the legal system are things they don't know and can easily be misinterpreted. What she does is just brilliant in terms of getting through to these people. Who really might just work at a gas station or something.
@@RalphVB that and also you can see how she's looking around in different directions while explaining, sort of like presenting
Yes
Around 10'50 - and onwards : "Believing in unrealistic things". Like ...say 90 percent of the public in countries like the poorest ones, the religious ones, USA, Russia and the most militaristic and political ones... ? :) I guess that alone then is the diagnosis of the "average mind" or the "democracy voter". Sokrates, Sam Harris and Douglas Murray will nod and agree I think. The latter two being alive selling books will not admit it . But they know.
Yes. :) Sort of cutely devoted. Goodhearted for sure. Most probably a bit naive. Hard working I am pretty sure. Quite a difference from The angry amber thing in many ways.
Just FYI: having BPD IS NOT an excuse to be abusive towards others.
The histrionic one is the bigger issue for them. They're trying to establish that she's the kind of a person to write that article and destroy Depp on purpose.
That's literally not how it works ffs This argument is senseless. People with BPD *are* mentally ill (especially if untreated), if that didnt effect their behavior well they.. wouldn't be, catch my drift? Calling it an excuse implies the individual has more autonomy and order than they actual do. It is called a disorder for a reason.
This is not a way to excuse her actions btw, just to point out you and a lot of people are fundamentally ignorant about this illness.
We need to find a middle, understand that offering empathy to those with mental illness isn't necessarily the same as excusing their behaviour.
@@tcrijwanachoudhury I offer empathy only to those who work on their flaws and don’t project them onto others. I am very familiar with this disorder and I stand by my reminder that her having BPD doesn’t justify her actions, just like serial killers’ crimes can’t be justified by their antisocial personality disorder (just an exaggerated example to prove my point if you happened to misunderstand me).
wish someone told that to my ex lmao
This lady is so well spoken and very smart they couldn’t have put a better person on the stand
And so fine
@OUTCLASSER Support Team how is depp guilty?
@OUTCLASSER Support Team So is Amber guilty also?
@OUTCLASSER Support Team alright amber settle down
yup lol she intimidated me with her intelligence, a true psychologist & would be an amazing therapist
This woman is more well spoken than all of heard's legal team put together.
she starts sentences with so..... 🤔
@@alang6238 That's not grammatically incorrect. You can even begin sentences with "And" as well and still be accurate. She's clear and concise with her answers.
@@alang6238 So?
well, amber's lawyers are zero, If you add 0's together the answer is zero
That's because she has legitimacy to her subject matter.
Note how she explained everything to and facing towards the jury, not to the advocate or judge. Brilliant move.
Good observation! Yes, because she’s an expert witness (as am I in a different field). Expert witnesses are trained to speak to the jury when answering a question. Lay witnesses typically don’t have training like that.
Absolutely, I was going to say the same thing
I dont understand.. can you explain why thats brilliant?
@OUTCLASSER Support Team Depp was set up. The only thing he is guilty of is using his words. Amber is a crazy person. The doctor said so herself.
@OUTCLASSER Support Team copium
This is mind boggling. Im a psych student and Personality disorders are deeply complicated. The idea that a psychologist is going to be able to explain what a personality disorder is, and do it briefly and clearly for a court is insane. Obviously she is skipping over a lot, but wow, very impressive. It’s enough information to get the essence across, but it’s also important to understand what the attorney asked her. He basically asked, “so how does a watch work, and please explain it quickly and clearly for non watch makers?” And then she did!!!! That’s freaking amazing!
I’m a clinician and I was highly impressed too. Might bring it up and our next meeting.
I agree! BPD is not a simple D and is mostly not recognized and understood by the person who is diagnozed with it. On the contrary...
your watch example is also very excellent 👏👏
May I caution you on loosely using the word "insane."
She could do this because she is very good at her work. Why else would someone so wealthy hire her?
As someone who is currently in college for psychology, this lady is an inspiration. I've never felt more enlightened and motivated to continue doing what I'm trying to do.
i really want to get into psychology too and this whole video makes me want to do it even more. being able to accurately describe and understand how people are feeling is so fascinating to me.
I hope you do well and exceed all expectations, we need more people like this amazing woman in the field.
Good luck. Hope you like adrenaline rushes from difficult/combative patients. We all have at least 1 special case.
If I can offer any advice to you guys, I would recommend narrowing down which specific area/areas you are interested in most, and research what job you would eventually like to do. Then actually go either speak to people in that job or shadow them to see if that’s what you really want. I have always been interested in psychology. It’s literally fascinating to me to figure out how why people do what they do and how they think and behave. I wanted to be a counselor, so that’s what I did. Have my masters degree in social work actually, which was nice because there are SO many different areas you can work in with social work. Some clinicians prefer hiring a social work degree over just a counseling degree. I’ve considered eventually getting a doctorate, but lately I’ve been thinking not to because my last six years I ended up being a stay at home mom instead. Lol. I still research psychology all the time though! It’s just so interesting to me. One area I’m always looking into is personality disorders actually. I really recommend everyone become accustomed with those actually, because everyone will encounter one in your life eventually. Before this lady testified I assumed Amber had a personality disorder just from listening to her tapes and hearing about behaviors of hers. Mostly the tapes though. I guessed most likely borderline, but thought possible narcissistic or histrionic personality disorder. This psychologist is incredible. You can just tell. They found such a gem. I couldn’t believe Ambers female lawyer! She was so unprofessional! With the muffins nonsense. Just grasping for straws. Anything to try to make her look bad. It’s ridiculous. She still kept her cool and stayed professional though and looked so much better than that ridiculous lawyer.
forensic psychologists are amazing. we had a psychopath in our family hire one to gain visitation rights to a child, she tore his lies to pieces and substantiated the coherent story of the mother, who wasn't particularly smart, but she wasn't lying. I've got the most respect for forensic psychologists.
The fact that people on the internet who have no expertise in the mental health field dare to say that she talked too much and is "annoying" is mind boggling to me. She was basically asked to explain very complex things (that people study for years and write whole essays about) in a few seconds - a task that is almost impossible and she mastered it! It was obvious that the legal team wanted to overwhelm her with the questions but she stayed calm
Those are probably the people who felt called out and shown their own mental disorders. Generally, those who need help the most refuse it and try to drag down physiologist.
Not to mention borderline personality disorder is an extremely complicated ilness. I have it myself and I am still learning new things about it everyday.
@@abomination4503 many disorders are complicated. It was amazing that the Dr. was able to explain the basics of Boarderline personality disorder. Plus with it being a cluster B means there are overlapping symptoms from other personality disorders in the same cluster. That makes it much harder to pin down the exact disorder.
People don’t understand how the real world functions
I was wondering why people were saying that. What she’s saying is very interesting and educational to me.
What a pleasure to hear her talk, extremely rare to see someone talk so fluently, intelligently and quick with so many eyes focused on them
Yes ! She's so completely grounded and fluent in her field. And if there's a definition of healthy and balanced and professional..she truly looks to be it.
Yes! I felt so envious, i could hear her everyday
@@user-dn8hd1de2d Exactly!
Agree. What an eloquent lady and doesn't flinch once. Very cool and together. So fascinating!
Totally agree. So I’m control of her emotions and the truth. Very inspirational.
Dr Shannon Curry’s career is going to skyrocket even further after this. She’s articulate, incredibly insightful, intelligent and an skilled communicator.
Oh she appears to be doing well without it...own practice etc
You can tell she loves what she does for a living.
She’s talking crap though. Read the psychopath test by mark Ronson, people should be very wary of this kind of thing because if you get accused of being manipulative it’s next to impossible to prove that you aren’t.
What does skyrocketing career as a psychologist even mean? lol her prominence and media profile certainly did if she'd choose to become a "Dr. Phil" type person instead of a professional. So she's gonna get some Twitter followers and maybe invited to shows like "The View" or sth. But I doubt she has any issue whatsover as a PhD holder, rich people psychologist in terms of business. No coincidence she was approached by Depp's legal team.
@@milesfurther4395 you are so delusional. You are absolutely wrong.
I could genuinely listen to this lady all day long, she explains so well
@OUTCLASSER Support Team go touch grass
@@itsxunlight LOOOOOOOL INIT
@OUTCLASSER Support Team you need to get examined as well
i put this youtube listening while I was sleeping....
DITTO
She‘s not abusive because she has bpd, she‘s abusive because she is an abuser. Some abusers have bpd, but not everyone struggling with bpd is abusive!
So important!
Agreed 💯 think it's safe to say Ms. Amber felt/feel entitled to control the narrative and everything thing else in her & Mr. Johnny dysfunctional relationship. If she hit the man she wanted and chose to hit him. There weren't little voices in her head saying "heifer grab a pan or pop him upside the head". If he walked away he did exactly what I've told my own sons to do and a controlling narcissistic abuser can't handle that level of maturity because by ending an argument in peace means you're taking control back. As a DV survivor since childhood through majority of adulthood, you recognize the real. These two are toxic together and did the best thing. End marital ties. Now go heal.
Truuuue BUT it doesn’t help. I think people with BPD may have more of a predisposition that someone without any mental health diagnosis
Than*
True. The unhealthy thought processes, difficulty regulating emotion, viewing their inner thoughts/opinions as fact and “splitting” probably make it more likely though!
Her testimony was actually very educational. For instance, the way she explained the difference between depression and personality disorder was sublime. It will stick with me forever.
Hmm but she could have mentioned how depression does affect your personality in so many ways. She made it way too straightforward by suggesting the personality is completely separate/untouched by depression.
I am in my last year of psychology and I agree with almost everything that she said and of course it was educational... but just that part was not, as kat page comments the comparison she made between personality and depression was not entirely right, it made it look like depression didn't affect different aspects of life. also, for example, there are different types of depression, it is not always an "episode that comes and goes". So, I hope it doesn't stick with you forever.
@@katpage9378 Let's just say that she provided abnormally much of data within a small range of time, in the most effective manner. That is pretty good, but then again like someone pointed out earlier; that should be no problem for a well educated character in that context.
@@KibyNykraft I agree. She definitely seems to know what she’s talking about. To be honest I think she’s getting more praise for what she says than she otherwise would because she’s pretty. This isn’t to be rude, just observing.
Yes, although ugly doctors are more trusted than their handsome counterparts, it's likely the only scenario in which being ugly is a plus
This woman is a definition machine. If someone asked me for basic definitions in my professional field, I would be stumped, and then give one in my own words. She gives perfectly worded definitions without hesitation.
Yeah she’s good at memorizing theory and convey it to others. That doesn’t mean she’s smart. Following rules or practices that have been laid out by others isn’t too difficult. And before anyone is going to attack me thinking that I am jealous or something , I’m not. As a specialist in my field and having a post grad degree , I just think it’s part of my basic knowledge to know the definition of the terms in my field
I can usually BS my way through technical questions by making my eyes wide, looking side to side, gulping and peppering in some uhs and ums. It's a learned skill.
@@user-gb5ff7gj1m Man you just really don't want to give* her credit where it's due huh 😂
I wonder if she can define what a woman is.
@@user-gb5ff7gj1m belittling people because they can do what you cannot, in front of camera lenses and an audience. Classic.
Man, their most inner and personal stuff is now out there for everyone to hear. I'd be cringing internally if I were in their shoes.
their celebs, their used to it LMAO
Lmao it’s what they do dude. All press is good press in their situation. She will still be able to work anyways after all of this. She’s a woman lol
It will definitely be hard for her to get a job now!
Yup
He has nothing to be ashamed of or cringe about. He's brave to come forward and so many men don't.
I’m a psychology student and for our lecture yesterday we strictly talked about this case. It was a very effective way to learn more about personality disorders and we all agreed this lady is amazing at articulating the psychological science
There's a book by br Jessica Taylor you might find interesting its called sexy but psycho. It's a weird title but it's really interesting. I wonder why amber was assessed for mental health but Johnny wasn't.
@@emmawelsh5336 It's privileged unless one of the parties raises the issue. Amber raised the issue by claiming that Johnny gave her PTSD. The psychologist found that AH does NOT have PTSD, although she was "feigning it" early on in the assessment.
@@emmawelsh5336 Jessica Taylor is a terf
@@Vita_Voitane maybe she got drunk after Johnny Depp left and went crazy ... at least they were not hurting children.
They puff this up to this extent but hardly allowed anything to leak out from the Ghislaine Maxwell trial.
They deliberately messed that one up.
I hope you don’t think all personality disorders are like amber heard
The amount of people calling her annoying, saying she talked too much, in the live was astounding. I loved her insightful knowledge, what a fascinating subject and human.
Haven’t seen one person call her annoying
VALYA- That was all the uneducated who can't concentrate on one topic, they easily get bored with stuff they don't comprehend. I saw that too. As a matter of fact I answered some, whether they saw my replies I'm unaware cuz I didn't see any responses.
@@Dobetter15 obviously you can't read and or you didn't see the live court case.
@@virginiaryno2631 That's true ,but this is also a cultural question for sure. In America it is more accepted that someone talks vividly and show off, then in for example Scandinavia or Japan, where it is more seen as comical or pretenciousness. Yet there are so big mixes of people in America from all over the world, that there will naturally be parts of the audience who sniffs at her show :)
It could be due to career goals or due to just idealism, or enthusiasm of one's profession, probably a combination that she gets so excited. If I was to be direct I'd say the shrink is a bit hyperactive but that is in her case something that has turned out good- more energy, more career potential.
In Scandinavia the doc would not have been allowed (the judges would correct her immediately and told her to calm down and stick to the questions with shorter answers). So this is a kind of funny freak show to watch for people here in north Europe. To us quite a lot of americans are pretty freaky in one way or another. But ironically that also puts a lot of attention to America and sells it as a sort of product.
People tend to get intimidated by such intelligent individual hence they end up trash talking
i googled histrionic personality disorder and omg - Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) is defined by the American Psychiatric Association as a personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive attention-seeking behaviors, usually beginning in early childhood, including inappropriate seduction and an excessive desire for approval. - makes sense
She's literally an attention wh***
I feel sorry for her poor sister and those horses 🐎 😢
@OUTCLASSER Support Team I'm sorry, are you a psychologist?
Histrionic was a disorder observed by psy hologists before until then it spread out to more specific other disorders including Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD), Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD), Sociopathic Personality Disorder (SD or SPD), and etc.
She (Amber Heard) falls under there or with all such categories.
Thank you! I was so curious what that was 🙏🏻
If she was the first witness, this case would have been done lmao. She destroyed them!
First they needed to hear all the drama, outrageous garbage, and waste of time. Simply having a mental disorder isn’t very damning.
It’s good that she came at this point, it let the jury see the whole narrative so far wrapped up and the doctor’s statement was given a solid foundation.
@@malw6323 They most likely did that on purpose, well hopefully anyway
My prediction is -we all find out Amber is a fem-bot when her head explodes while on the stand.
Really?! I can’t wait to hear all this!
So well articulated, you know she knows what she is talking about. Amber's layer wanted to lessen her diagnoses by saying she only had 8 years practicing. Even if that were true and even if 8 years isn't considered career worthy experience her knowledge on the matter demands professional respect.
They wanted to give him reasons for partiality to Johnny Depp because of the meal and the visit.
She actually said that's not correct. She's worked in the field for 15 years!
Exactly!!!!!
My gynecologist is 10y old experience but he knows well what he is doing ........ and explains it very clear ..... am with him since 2017 and had my recent birth
And won't change him
He follow up step by step
And makes it all sound scientific
Not just like regular doctors blabla
8 years and a phd
Personable, facing the jury, patient, well-spoken, thorough, and putting her thoughts in a digestible manner for the jury -- what more could you ask for? This would've made a huge impression on me as a juror. They tried to discredit her by saying she hasn't done much testimony or she wasn't board-certified, but she's licensed and she speaks with a profound authority. What a home run for Depp's team. Her comments about exaggeration would've stuck with me all the way into the jury room.
@@billys1389 What a strange thing to be triggered by.
@@billys1389 you need to get out less.
Johnny needs to marry her.
@@dajb90 bruh your reply to Billy S🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@billys1389 Are you OK? It was a great comment.
She is unbelievably well spoken.
ikr i would stutter like no other
Adderall does that to you
@@memeneuver8821 what?
You must be really shocked by that.. based on your profile picture
@@Swed813 Ha no it’s no. Not in the slightest.
The eloquency of the psychologist is so captivating
@@Anastasia11101 ah, I love Dr. Ramani
@@Anastasia11101 yeah me too
Ohhhh 500likes thanks
You guys think this woman is brilliant. She was hired to find a specific diagnosis which was entered on pleadings before she interviewed Heard. This smacks of unprofessionalism. Unethical. She cannot get these diagnoses in one assessment. $$$$$$$
@@bordendonna it’s based on several documents and evidence including previous medical records not only from one meeting.
Imagine having a professor like her? I love the way she just makes really complex things simple to understand
I had a few professors like her in college…
I wish my teachers spoke as well as she did. Maybe I wouldn't have needed Adult Ed.
Honestly, I would be way too distracted. She’s absolutely gorgeous and the smartest person in the room
For what it’s worth as someone with diagnosed bpd who has worked pretty much my whole life to be able to live semi normally and not do harm those I love. I don’t like pushing a stigma but we can absolutely be toxic, and abusive in all the ways possible. But if helped we can stop hurting people and ourselves. I hope Johnny gets justice that he deserves! No one deserves to go through what he’s gone through no matter what mental illness his partner has
Thank you for sharing this. With the advent of interventions like Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, BPD is treatable.
@@cynthiaholland13 yes!! dbt absolutely saved my life
My partner has BPD and something I worry about is the coverage of this trial and how it could affect her, BPD already tends to get a bad wrap but it seems a lot of news outlets wanna focus on the diagnosis and I worry it'll only add to the stigma :( my partner is the kindest, sweetest, most caring person I know and has worked so hard to not be defined by her diagnosis and its always a shame to see a diagnosis like this being the forefront of a case like this and attached to someone who has behaved so horribly
Could you explain what bpd? Because i checked online and it mostly says “fears if abandonment, impulsiveness, anger.” Could you define though? Like what causes all of these emotions?
So you just act like a child ? Meh, if you're hot you can do that, if not it's going to be a issue.
What a joy to see someone talk about her work with such clear passion. She’s in the right job, for sure. :)
I love how Amber is just sitting there writing down god knows what. Everything is recorded and transcribed by the court, she does this to hide her emotions and its blatant how much she struggles with hearing evidence that doesn't support her. There are very few times in my life when I have ever seen someone so intent on taking notes or writing something and this moment should not be one for her. If she was innocent she would be much more present and attentive to the speaker, which is in reality. Not the thoughts in her own head which she is writing down, its obvious she is trying to escape the moment.
She wrote down "Real trauma victims recall smells and sounds they heard - note to self say I smelt things in my testamony coming up" or something of that nature I'm sure.
Watch out for that and also watch for her saying something along the lines of she was sick of being treated like a dog (as johnny said this and she frantically started scribbling right then).
I think she's making up her testamony live as the case goes on 😂
She is busy with doodling ....calm down it's important too ! I think she is planning for next career move..may be may be not...what do you thing
@@DaftFader I can totally remember that moment
Therapists use that tactic in sessions... She probably had some advice to do something to occupie her 😁
It's a way for her to feel like she has some kind of control over a situation she has no control over.
It’s clear from hearing her talk that she enjoys her field. She gets a smile every time she explains different parts of her career. That’s so nice to see!! Sorry I know that has nothing to do with the case but I just liked seeing it.
buAA, of course, any spouse wanna dominate eeeer kingdom, includin
eeeeer huzzzzz !!!
@@hamala7437 do you speak english?
Agreed it is nice.
Not defending Amber's heinous actions, but my wife has BPD and she is a beautiful person. She's sometimes argumentative, but she's never been abusive. She sometimes struggles to communicate or to be understood, but she would never do anything violent or manipulative like Amber has done.
I'm willing to believe Amber has BPD, it makes a lot of sense, but BPD doesn't make you an evil person. Nice people can have it too.
It's the histrionic side that's really manipulative
Thank you Atticus❤
@Kyra You’re literally commenting on a video in which a PhD level clinical psychologist is explaining under oath what her diagnosis is. And you’re saying she’s wrong. Amazing.
@@holymolythejabroni9040 i worked in mental health as well and i see narcissism too.
But that is not Amber's case
Interesting how Johnny's lawyers allow her to speak and explain these complex psychology terms while Amber's lawyers cut her off. Almost like they don't want the jury to understand what she's saying and see her expertise.
Exactly, they don't want the Jury to hear about AH, diagnosis on being mentally ill
That’s the nature of the beast
And AH sits there with that look of disdain on her face!
@@Valen_Wolf 😂👌
That's exactly the strategy. Dr. Curry is the plaintiff's witness.
Dr curry makes direct eye contact with the jury throughout because she understands its ultimately the jury that needs the truth to be unveiled. God bless Dr curry for this brilliant testimony.
She's a top noch pro in her field. Eye contact is key to transparent two way communication. Not only words counts. Many don't recognize this... They talk differently than their body express.
I love that we get to see 90% of what we usually don't in TV shows or documentaries. I didn't know that court cases were THIS long and got this crazy.
Some high-profile court cases lasted for a few years.
Michael Jackson's was pretty similar - the prosecution got completely destroyed there too. The difference is we get to watch the prosecution's agonising self-inflicted death this time and Depp's cleared his name already.
I wish I could see this woman for therapy. Brilliant, personable, well-spoken, experienced, and grounded.
I think that her expertise is more in assessments than therapy. There is a difference in practice areas.
Understandable, but I just get the sense that she would be really good at psychotherapy.
I couldnt never see a therapist as attractive as her. I would be dishonest
I wonder why she isnt board certified. Genuinly have no idea what the requirements are in the usa but that would make me pause before going to a therapist
@@chrisconnor8086 This is a super weird comment and you really should evaluate how you view women.
She is a GOOD witness for JD’s team. She comes across as knowledgeable, captivating, and non biased.
I don't think they've had a single bad witness, have they?
Very captivating
As someone with BPD she is how I wish all clinicians would represent the field of psychology. She's empathetic while talking about a very stigmatized mental illness. She's correct, we do look at the world differently and our diagnosis is not an excuse but rather an explanation for why we think the way we do. But also imagine being that intelligent and articulate because someone could have a gun to my head asking about what I do for work or anything that I studied in undergrad and I would just simply have to die.
It is unfortunate however, that this will cause everyone to stigmatize and demonize us even more. Some of these comments are so evil towards those of us with BPD.
yep I hope they don't vilify bpd after this, I met a friend who was suffering but she really tried to overcome
How do people with BPD "view the world differently"?? Can you please explain, it really makes me curious
@@Dielawn69 that’s fair, it’s great that you personally haven’t been penalized for your mental illness, but again that doesn’t mean that it doesn’t happen and that there isn’t still stigma around BPD. People understand and empathize with mental health but it’s more so with depression, anxiety, eating disorders, illnesses that affect a larger population and directly impact them in some way. That isn’t the case with most mood or personality disorders, I agree mental health is becoming less of a taboo discussion but mental health is multifaceted and it’s difficult to conclude that one disorder is no longer stigmatized just because you haven’t been directly faulted for it, or that because mental health as a whole is being accepted. Thank you for your comment and the opportunity to open a discussion.
It's not the disorder that makes you reprehensible. It's the refusal to get help for it, and stubbornly cling to the notion of you're well and dandy, while people around you have to suffer you. My mother has it, and it was a nightmare growing up. For me that's where my line of tolerance is. If you're bettering yourself and seeking treatment, excellent, but that line is what makes AH disgusting to me. No self reflection, no care for people around her.
You can tell she actually is fond of her career as a psychologist and helping people by the way she speaks and educates the court room. I feel like as though, I'm back in a college seminar listening to my psychology professor.
I'm totally impressed by this woman's findings on Amber Heard. She determined that AMber has Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) which is defined by the American Psychiatric Association as a personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive attention-seeking behaviors, usually beginning in early childhood, including inappropriate seduction and an excessive desire for approval. That pretty much wraps her up!
i wish you knew what it was like having a personality disorder dude.
What separates this from narcissism? To me she just sounds like she could be summarized as a kind of narcissist.
@@katpage9378 I think people with bpd experience more mania or outbursts than a person with narcissistic tendencies
@@gford4104 Then why not call them narcissists with mania…
Which adds up to what friends were warning JOhnny about when he started dating heard!
This lady is absolutely gem,you can't trick her she knows how to answer under pressure..
And if by gem you mean hot AF. Yeah, she's a total gem...
@@TimApple. that too 🤣🤣
@@TimApple. she’s clearly very intelligent, and she’s beautiful as well. I would suspect that she has quite a few folks that appreciate her rare combo of beauty and brains! Seriously it was great to listen to her thorough and thoughtful testimony.
Yes she puts Jordan Peterson to shame
@@4Mr.Crowley2 unless she also has BPD :D
Great psychologist!
Amber rolling her eyes like she doesn’t believe her is pathetic and typical of her.
Typical of a person who is histrionic
And just further emphasizes the disordered mind she has.
At what point does she do that in the video?
@@mungofinalfi4480 i'm searching it too
When the Forensic Psychologist starts to discuss Amber Heard's diagnosis of having BPD and Histrionics, she starts to write in her notepad more. Then when the doctor discusses her rage issues, you see Heard writing madly in her yellow notepad. I got that she was higher triggered and because she can't speak right now, she tries to use writing to not only look intelligent but is also most likely using the writing as a way to control her rage issues. Just my opinion. I also viewed this from another channel that showed the whole trial.
Listening to her talk was like listening to a river running. Really impressed with how she summarised a complex issue and explained it so fluidly. Amber’s reactions were equally interesting…
She should start a pod cast, I would so listen and it'd be my first pod cast.
@@mariepanimdim4303 That’s actually a good idea. It would help the novice listener better understand psychology and mental health.
Bit far
“You can close your eyes to the things you don't want to see, but you can't close your heart to the things you don't want to feel.”
― Johnny Depp
Johnny Depp is clearly God
@@keithminnich4017 Uum.. I think Morgan Freeman is god.
@@t_kans we will have to have a Holy War to determine this!!!!
@@keithminnich4017 Johnny Depp is the things in this allegory
:( so many conclusions in my mind right now... like, I don't get why Amber's lawyer stood up. I honestly think this doesn't really help Johnny Depp's case for people to know she has a personality disorder. Could this be him still looking after her? Caring for her? Doesn't this reduce her sentence, if she's found guilty?
Amber can't look at her because she knows the doctor can see right through her lies!
Absolutely!!
I had a lot of close friends with borderline and histrionic personality disorder, and although they were toxic, I could tell they truly did care and love the people around them. They needed professional help, and it is so hard to improve on that when it gets bad
they pretend to care because they don't want to be an outcast. It's for their own needs, not for the needs of others.
@@mgtowfrank2502 how can you tell they’re faking it?
They are good people. They need help. So does Amber. I honestly do think, that she did not mean any harm. But wasn‘t aware of her actions. Maybe lost somehow.
@@c.e.9280 people with BPD are not good people lol
Nice to see some compassion in this stoning in the town square.
People should be held accountable for their actions, no question. But her sadness is palpable. These diagnoses should not be confused with ASPD. They feel and love, they were just broken, usually very early on.
NO ONE could have explained more clearly or more easily understably, what a diagnosis is, how it is used, what it means to have or give, and all about said diagnosees, than this woman. She's incredible and if I ever need a psychological witness I want her on my team.
Finally someone with authority confirming what has been obvious all along.
that ah is one crazy woman? she destroyed someone's life, not to mention their career. if she was capable of understanding the consequences of her actions and feeling even a shred of remore, I think that shrivelled up heart might just explode.
@@AnikaJarlsdottr I think you're confused. The comment is about the therapist - not about Amber 🤣
@@AnikaJarlsdottr " been obvious all along ". I believe the OP is referring to Amber Heards diagnosis of having a personality disorder. Although, I think it would only be obvious to those who have had a similar kind of relationship that involved a manipulative nature.
Yes 100 %. When the audio tapes were released a few years ago, of Amber and Johnny's arguments, it was plain to see Amber had/has been suffering with severe mental disorders. Anyone displaying Amber's behavior would immediately be considered a candidate for psychotherapy. Period.
@@yaze3316 You dont have to have been in a similar relationship to identify a mental illness. We do it in the daily, its our way of understanding somebodies mind. In terms of it "being clear" through the case we have been displayed with many reasons that suggest AH has BPD. Not necessarily a negative comment to make, just that we are finally seeing this coming from a trained professional.
As someone who has a diagnosis of BPD and leads a very stable life with kindness and compassion for others- please remember that disorders are on a spectrum and every person is different. I know others who have BPD as well that are absolutely wonderful people. Not everyone with BPD will treat people like Amber Heard does.
Yes
Well said!!!!
Can confirm, from a "dated someone with BPD" perspective. I had a short romance / friendship with a woman with BPD who was entirely self-aware and it was actually *me* who ran more of a risk of mistreating *her* because at the time in my life, I was very "hot and cold" about committing to anyone, and she called me out on it and reminded me that "here again gone again" behavior isn't going to work with her BPD. She's happily married now in the years since and I think in the case of BPD, self-awareness really helps with relationships: it helps both people steer clear of BPD-caused feedback loops that result in situations, similar to this JD/AH trial, but it also helps people like me realize how certain behaviors can be just as potentially harmful to the person *with* BPD. In other words, a person with BPD isn't a villain just because they suffer with it, and just because you *don't* have BPD doesn't mean you're not the bad guy in relationships, either. (I left this comment for passers-by who might typically see Emily's comment and roll their eyes out of disbelief, misogyny, or paranoia that their own "person of interest" with BPD is going to "pull an Amber Heard" and who might only believe otherwise if they saw "a man who dated someone with BPD" agreeing.)
@@connorsol WELL SAID!!!!!!
YESSS self awareness is the most important thing I also have BPD and I’ve been getting help for years. Not only do I feel sane and peaceful but people around me are also so much more happier to be around me.
Love how she speaks to and educates everyone
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She has to its her job and she's in court she has to explain every little detail so whole court room understands her statements.
That psychologist is so cool, she explains everything so well. And she's so patient and happy to do so.
I always hear people saying: "Why did he or she stay so long?" - it's not an easy question for certain people. Let's remember that in order to have a successful abuser, you need to find a good victim that is unwilling to leave. As we can all see in this case, not only she has mental issues but also our Johnny grew up untreated from the childhood and adolescence mental and psychological wounds of a dysfunctional family. Johnny escaped, like many do, from the pain and shame through legal/illegal drugs and alcohol. Sweeping our inner struggles under the rug it's simply an illusion. The 'out of sight, out of mind' kind of thinking is not healthy. Many of us had dysfunctional families growing up. It's definitely not our fault, however once you have the means of getting help, you must address these issues! It's very important for our own health and it helps us to make good choices in life. I have no doubt that Johnny fell in love with Amber's outer beauty and missed the signs of an abuser. Great lesson for all of us. Unfortunately, for many of us is already too late as we recognize this type of behavior in our own skin. Sad but true.
This is an excellent post and needs to be seen more. It is very important that people recognize this early on and get help at as young an age as possible.
Well said
Sounds like she love bombed him for a year and a half then changed after he was hooked
Very well said ... thank you!
Yes,except JD already had alcoholism n drug addiction for decades before AH.
Its a progressive conditiin,which is very hard to handle for a mate,in the best of times.
And why is there no mention of what happened to her as a child?.
Im pro Johnny,btw.
Dr. Curry’s memory and communications are fantastic! She doesn’t hesitate, doesn’t falter and is very thorough. She explained complex topics very clearly and succinctly.
She's a genius and has a solid understanding of her profession. I liker her.
She’s a true professional who knows her work!
She is more dedicated to taking notes than any college student at a lecture
Shoot, I’m currently a college student, soon to go into finals and I don’t even write notes like this myself!!!
🤣😂😂
She is writing a Novel
She’s psychotic 😂
I sweeeaaaar😂😂😂😂
i loved hearing her talk. she described everything so clearly and well and didnt pause and it truly felt like she was explaining everything directly to us. like a caring teacher.
I was married to a person who had acute and distinct Borderline Personality Disorder, refused to get counselling, attacked me in my sleep, injured me multiple times, pursued me relentlessly when I tried to retreat, engaged in profound character assassination against me to our friends and family when I refused to comply with her demands, emptied my bank account, ran up my credit cards, took my kids and married the new guy four days after the divorce was final. Listening to Depp gives me bad flashbacks.
💔💔💔💔
Sorry but your story sounds like an amazing movie plot.
@@matildafaltyn6253 Many thrillers are based around the borderline personality. Gone Girl for example.
@@matildafaltyn6253 I wish it had been, she nearly destroyed me but I made it out. She destroyed 3 more guys after me, was arrested for domestic violence and check fraude and drug my kids through all of it. Very sad movie plot if you ask me.
@@Hrollod No doubt. Throw drugs and alcohol into the mix and you get a toxic formula for disaster.
Love how she clearly defined validity and reliability in what the tests are meant to do. Heard's body language through all this is frightening.
I was thinking that the entire time while I was watching her. Her body language seems uneasy and uncomfortable. Trying to seem unfazed, calm and collected by this woman was dropping straight bombs! You could tell she was frantic through the whole thing.
@jazinegrrrl she’s holding back tears her head lowers and lowers and I would kill to see what she’s doodling but she knows now she’s screwed she dosnt know how to hold herself she’s so self conscious now esp after the diagnosis part
I would say rather annoying lol. She's so obviously embarrased and the way she deals with it is actualy funny. Can't watch aquaman with her in it and take her seriously anymore.
It’s hilarious because she’s pretending to write stuff or she’s just scribbling random notes
I mean imagine your mental illnesses being broadcasted worldwide, i wouldnt know what to do either. She's probably struggling to keep calm
So not an excuse, I have BPD and complex PTSD and I would never treat someone like this. Get your life together and stop blaming other people
There are so many practices for people with these issues to learn ways to cope. She just wants to place blame on other people to excuse her actions
Its not an excuse, but it can make people understand her behaviour more.
Not really, everyone makes their own actions. She chose to he violent and she chose to be horrible. If you expect change then make a change. Get help, that's why it's there
As a Borderline myself; I second this. Having this disorder is NO EXCUSE for being abusive
Strong eye contact, speaking loudly and clearly so that she's easily understood, the small smile as she explained to the room the multiple factors of her job and how she came to the diagnoses she did...she's very clearly an educator and is capable of teaching the next generation of mental health professionals from what I've seen of her....
Plus, she knows the muffin man. 😏
As a psychiatrist it was refreshing to hear the thorough explanations she gave. Just remember patients with borderline personality disorder aren’t happy with the way they behave. It can be a very embarrassing diagnosis that unfortunately gets stigmatized especially in the mental health field. I know nothing about Amber Heard but I hope she will seek the treatment that she needs to help better manage it primarily through DBT.
Yes, especially since she has a child.
It's stigmatized bcuz borderliners are soooooo draining... and insufferable!
thanks..I'm so emotional about ppl like you trying to educate
Happy. I've known several individuals with it who become overjoyed when they spread the disease inside them into the brains of unwilling victims, your statement is as ignorant as saying that autistic people can't be manipulative.
but her narcissism gets in the way. She feels she's done nothing wrong. I'm surprised that wasn't mentioned. Narcs are hard to treat because they feel other people are the problem.
I just love how she answered what is personality disorder. She didn't go directly with it and explained first what is personality. I learned a lot from her. Very informative and educational. I also liked the fact that she looked at the jury while explaining.
She had a job to do and she did it! Enough said! She had zero reason to get emotional over this nor take anything personally. She simply knew her job and did her job.
God bless this woman and any out there that support truth.
what is the truth? did you see the things that shes done to Johnny? she has no empathy
@@adamsavage2646 I think they were talking about the witness not Amber
@@adamsavage2646 Bro read again, I think you misunderstood. I think the woman he is referring to is the psychologist.
@@adamsavage2646 he was talking about the forensic Psychologist
@@adamsavage2646 Did you watch the video or no?
She definitely knows what she is talking about. It's so refreshing to see someone speak eloquently, and without constantly using filler words like "uh, um, ya know."
Although I agree that she presented herself well, she said "uh'' and ''um'' once per sentence almost. I wouldn't have noticed if I didn't read comments well listening to the video though....
@@SimplyJorgasmic yea it is common for all people to occasionally stumble with the flow of their speech. My point was that she didn't faulter too much when trying to convey her knowledge on the subject.
like johnny lol we still love him though 🤣😌
Don’t most psychopaths say that often
@@oumyara4137 cite your claim
Having a borderline mother, I cannot tell you how scary it is growing up with someone who can hurt you at any time and pretend like it never happened. Having bpd is no excuse to hurting others, man or woman
Edit: many seem to misinterpret my comment as if I’m saying all borderlines are abusers which was never my intent, this was my experience growing up with a narcissistic borderline mother sorry if I’ve offended many, but can only speak from experience of one individual
I can totally relate with you...I went through the exact same thing and I'm now in therapy for it since it caused me to have ptsd sadly...hope you are doing okay and all the best🤗
I’m sorry that you had to deal with that. Stay conscious that your mom’s illness was never and will never be your fault nor are you responsible for her mental health. 💔
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Same. The worst part is how they sincerely seem to believe that they were a good parent and not abusive at alllll... The disconnect between actual reality and the way a person with BPD experiences reality is one of the worst things about the disorder.
my mom too. Although not as bad as Amber, my mom tends to make up things convenient to her interests I'm glad I was able to witness the fact to catch her lying.
I have had a diagnosis of BPD for many many years now. I am a social worker and I work hard each day to cope with the disorder. Most of the success for me has been a great psychiatrist, medication and self-discipline. We are not evil people and with the right ingredients- we are strong and empathic people. 😊
Well said!! I'm also a diagnosed borderline, we are working our butts off to cope with this disorder and live fulfilling lives with love and compassion. We are not all bad people!
@@moonfish4841 amen to that 😊
I’m also a social worker with BPD (and more). It’s nice to see someone similar to myself because I never have before.
I don't think anyone would accuse you of this! Glad you are doing well.
@@kimberleymartin836 wow really! Yes I never meet anyone like myself either. It can be a lonely road we walk on can’t it ? Hope you are doing well :)
Amber stared at Johnny in all of his testimonies these past few days, barely looking away. Today she couldn’t look at Dr. Curry for more than just a few moments, which indicates so much. In my personal opinion I think Amber has not only a bit of jealousy toward her, but more obviously this must feel like a deep personal attack because when someone doesn’t want to admit the truth to themselves but deep inside they still know the truth, it feels like an attack. This is just so crazy to witness.
That's power dynamics for you.
They don’t like people that can read them like a book, my ex is like that when I know that he is lying he gets loud with me
The envy is clearly all on the part of the messy haired psychologist, talking about Amber Heard being obsessed with attractiveness. It's the psychologist who would like to have Amber Heard's natural beauty.
Did you think at all before typing this 👆🏾🤣
@@thinkingallowed7042 you’re literally defending a bed shitter my guy lmao
Dr. Shannon Curry explained everything clearly. I can listen to her the whole day to learn. Her testimony is more of a lecture.
I’ve never seen a narcissist so thoroughly exposed… as a result of her own doing, no less. This is ah-mazing.
Wish I could like this more than once. Spot-on.
Ah-ha! I see what you did there lol
She’s technically not a narcissist lol
She's not a narcissist. Wrong diagnosis.
Can we stop using clinical terms for every single problem. People use narcissism to refer to every cluster b personality disordered behaviour.
I think this was clear from the start. How she can't handle him walking away,violent reactions,disordered eating... BPD is horrible thing to live with. Hopefully she's getting help.
Yea had an ex who was like this, Wouldn't let me leave her house, had depression, anxiety, eating disorders and mood swings all over the place. Never knew anything about BPD until about 2 yrs later. Suddenly it all clicked. Seemed like such a nice genuine girl for the first 2 or 3 months
it's horrible to live with someone who has BPD. and typically ppl with BPD don't think they have a problem.
@@daniellap8939 we do think we have a problem
@@daniellap8939 I know it's difficult. But also these people usually seek help after all,cause of all the unpleasent symptoms. It's also possibly to manage with teraphy.
@@fatimamentbeh7040 my mother doesn't. clearly amber heard doesn't. it is always someone else who has the problem in their minds.
This lady is the reason why borderline has such a stigma. I have borderline but I have dedicated years to intensive therapy including DBT, CBT, interpersonal, and regular psychiatry of course. I live a happy, normal life and certainly don't hurt my husband like this monster. Borderline is NO excuse for her behavior... if she wanted to put in the work and change her life, she could, but she just didn't care to. People like that are the worst...
I don't think she had a diagnosis before this. But still... you're right
I am also recovering and aware of my BPD disorder. It took me a long time but it's doable. I honestly think she has more NPD than BPD. She does have traits but I don't agree with the full diagnosis. I experienced trauma and due to that I formed BPD. I have always been kind and loving but lashed out in fear of abandonment. I had all nine traits and I hate it that you only have to have five to have BPD. In my mind, its not right. But anyway, you are right about the stigma. Amber is vicious and cruel. I am not like her.
@@sayitaintso9576 One often finds overlap in Cluster B personality traits in a given individual, e.g., someone who meet criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder can decompensate to Borderline functioning under conditions creating great distress, or a person w/ BPD can load highly on narcissistic traits as well.
The common denominators of Cluster B symptoms (and granted, it's not a perfectly consistently taxonomy, but one that's also to a degree a cultural construction/set of decisions by the researchers and advocates in the field based upon sets of research data and clinical experience) are 'counter-social traits'- if one wants to get somewhat psychodynamic in their conceptualization, one can characterize these Cluster B traits as frequent, even chronic dysfunctional behaviors that serve to control, exploit, or aggress against others (or even oneself) as defenses against the anxiety, psychological hurt, and even response of alarm to one's predominantly unconscious experience of ego deficits in relationship to oneself and others.
Kinda going down a rabbit hole here. I'm not particularly dynamically-oriented- I'm a behaviorist. And I'm no Shannon Curry (the psychologist witness)- brevity and clarity are not generally my strong suits!
@@maxhirsch7035 Thanks for the explanation and I understand the comorbidity. I have been diagnosed with PTSD, clinical depression and BPD. I know how someone with BPD walks, talks and breaths. I am the professional more than the professional. If someone has only got their information from books and research, they are in second place to the person who is has experienced the disorder first hand. They are not using the NPD diagnosis because they can claim that everyone has a bit of narcissism but everyone does not have BPD traits. She is certainly histrionic but primarily NPD and BPD secondary.
@@ceciliadominguez4591 This is true, however even before you get a diagnosis you will usually sense that something is very wrong with your life. Compared to the people around us, people with BPD often have extremely unstable relationships, sense of identity, personality traits, moods, confidence... at its worst untreated sometimes we can hardly keep jobs or try to kill ourselves. So I feel that she must have been aware on some level that she needed help?
This was simple and pure unbiased testimony, Dr. Curry is a true woman of her work, incredibly well-spoken and absolutely educated in her field. The breakdown and the psychology report, it's just scientific fact that she's giving us here. No need for cue cards or leading from Johnny's team, she knows what she's talking about.
An expert witness is on one side. Not unbiased at all.
Regarding Dr. Curry's testimony - man, what a pleasure it is to listen to professionals who can communicate so well!
This is a gigantic nail in the coffin
This woman has a child now... she's nuts. Poor child
And, a girlfriend.
Exactly what I said to myself..... I pray the baby is in good hands with whomever is caring for her.
Oh no 😣
A child she didn't even gestate...
@@pasqualinamichelaconsiglio9391 This may be a hot take but her having a GF is more than likely her hoping she will be shielded under the LGBT umbrella and free from criticism.
The most amazing thing about this psychologist, other than being very well-spoken and smart, is that she survived 12 hours with Amber Heard.
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@Kat T elaborate?
I know, right.
👌it must’ve been quite trying to be around a very clever calculating shroud manipulative woman
@@jaydubpontiac6291 she has BPD too.
Just to be clear, it doesn’t justify Amber’s actions and it doesn’t change the fact that Johnny has much suffered that she ever had. She is a monster no matter what she is diagnosed.
The diagnosis describes what kind of monster she is
she destroyed a man's life and career, a diagnosis is not a golden ticket to avoid those consequences. ah has been divorced from reality for a very long time, she doesn't know the meaning of accountability and even if she loses this case, I still dont think she will ever understand. she is a nasty piece of work and I hope JD can regain even a glimmer of the life he used to have before he met her.
yes. “it explains it, it doesn’t excuse it”
It doesn't. But even psychologists are warned when learning in academy, about treating BPD patients, but not because of discrimination... Sadly 😞 of course most of them get treatment but with therapists that are very aware that they are difficult to treat
Amber probably wants to stab her
Johnny's name has been cleared in the public eye and his honour restored. The verdict of the trial will just be a cherry on top. He has already won I believe. Way to go Johnny.
What a statement to make after not hearing a word of testimony from the other side.
@@makeupchick9544 her hysterical recordings were enough proof
I have so much admiration for this woman, she is so articulate. As someone who is a stutterer and has a terrible fear of talking in social situations, I can only watch in wonder!
Not many people have nerves of steel and can present that well in front of a courtroom, cameras (and virtually the whole world)
I'm an Arborist. I'm never nervous to talk to a tree hahaha. Bless you
As a student who is pursuing psychology I am so impressed by the Dr. All her explanations are so informative. She is what i hope I can be one day.
This psychologist is something else, she's so well spoken and articulated. And in the meantime, Im certain that her diagnosis is accurate afffff
Amber fan lol
She left out some thins too! I’m not exactly sure as to why, but that amber broad is a 3 ring circus of crazy!
Her diagnosis is BS.
Afffff, what's that stand for?
@@moonmullen9992 as f...
She is well educated of what she specializes in.Good job JD.
It’s like watching a murder mystery and near its end having everything wrapped up, retraced, and suddenly it all connects.
Right?! Well said.
Right? Keep in mind she's heard no testimony b4 her own. All the pieces fell together. She basically said everything JD has described.
This Woman is so smart and articulating. I love the way she talks and how she explains things. This would be someone I would most definitely feel comfortable around. Wish I had a therapist like this when I did therapy.
People need to have in mind though that not all people with Borderline behaves as evil and manipulative as Amber does. We don't need more stigma around this disorder! People with bpd already suffers enough from society's prejudices.
Too late. Read the comments.
They inflict suffering on others purposefully.
Shush
@@ladygodiva4141 yeah I saw..
@@launderedcotton8070 People in this world needs more education around mental illness.
My sister has BPD, and while we don't speak and don't have a relationship anymore, I can vividly remember how she behaves. Watching this trial has been fascinating because Amber seems to exhibit all of the exact same characteristics, and one thing I know for sure about my sister, is that sitting in a courtroom, while a psychologist explained in detail that she had Borderline, would have made her absolutely lose her mind. I've watched a ton of these clips, and in most of them, Amber appears withdrawn, distant, uninterested and unconvinced by whatever is happening in the courtroom at that moment. Watching her in this footage, her eyes are constantly darting around the room, except for when she is visibly trying not to appear too interested, and starts writing furiously. It's extremely clear (in my opinion) that this is by far the most uncomfortable part of the trial so far, if not the only part that has really bothered her. The one thing that people who suffer from BPD fear more than ANYTHING else, is rejection. Having her deepest flaws put on display like this/her psyche analyzed in front of the world is some of the worst punishment she could endure...
(Not an Amber supporter - Just remarking on the situation from my own point of view/experiences.)
amber is disassociating to protect her faux reality. she literally did not look up very much at all when the dr was speaking. happy to hear you got free from your sis, but i know it's hard bc its your sister.
Well spotted sir
Thanks for sharing your perspective, really insightful.
Woah
She's literally monotone and expressionless which any attorney would advise their client to do. Judging her based on her sitting there and listening is beyond biased.
This woman gave me a better counseling session in 10 min than what I had in 8 months. She calms your anxiety just by listening to her.
I wish I could hire her as my therapist her voice is so nice
You can really see when someone loves what they do and I bet this woman totally loves her job
I learned so much in 15 minutes. What a great expert witness, she covered all the bases. Nothing felt Confrontational or biased.
This woman knows how to do this right. When she was interrogated by AH lawyers she wore glasses just answering obvious questions in monotone voice. Questioned by JD’s lawyers she dropped the glasses and her tone of voice is more welcoming and softer, yet still professional. I even doubted for a second it was the same person myself. Very important testimony 👏
She wore the glasses because she was being shown some documents to review
But which woman is she really?
This is not such a good tactic.
The jury might interpret her change in appeaeance as an intentional ploy.
Her hair is a mess!
@@contactjoy4140 Oh No!! Messy hair!! 🙄🙄
It’s her job to know how to speak in court. Probably done it many times before
@@contactjoy4140 lol. Hearsay, you enabling an abuser. 🤣
I just did a semester project in grad school over cluster b personality disorders (which includes both borderline and histrionic) and WOW she is so well spoken, I’m surprised her legal team seemed like they have NO idea what personality disorders are.
It's not that they don't have an idea, it's that they need the jury to understand things. Remember, juries are full of lay people
lol are you serious....People don't know they are asking these questions so the jury understands?! Indeed, "WOW"
As a psych student. Listening to this woman is so soothing. She’s a dose of serotonin I didn’t know I needed 😮💨
Starting at 9:45 you can see how overwhelmed AH's legal team is starting to feel by hearing all the questions the Dr. will do for the clinical assessment 🤭
You can tell how intelligent she is by how carefully, yet how bravely and professionaly she is speaking. And she gets her facts across the board, and makes no compromises on a single word if it is not the exact truth
I also love how Amber is "acting" like she is taking notes.
Omggg yes I was thinking the same thing 😆 her face screams upset and embarrassed lol
Amber don't like the fact she has been missing out on the truth about her behaved self inner control is the devil's ground...
I know! I've been saying that all along.
This is a what she does to control her rage. I loved it too.
It fits it really does. Look at how she was dressing like Johnny and wearing glasses like him also her hair was styled closely to his.
It explains sooo much of this stuff
Can you please explain to me how she was able to do this? I see it, but like how? I’m really curious as to how she was able to see him and see what he’s wearing, then mimic it? Thanks
@@Hippie_faithe what he wore one day she'd wear something similar the following day..
Yep!
@@Hippie_faithe ok so if his hair is in a ponytail the next day her hair was in a ponytail. Go back to the 1st week the first day Johnny wore a bee pin in his tie the next day she also wore a suit jacket and tie. Tge tie had a bee on it. Just go back look at only the way she emulates him.
The fact that everyone calls Amber "Miss Heard" is just the icing on the cake
The title of a book
Why?
@@iheartdelrey she seems the kind of person that doesn't listen, or missheard, anybody or anything
Just because someone is diagnosed with BPD doesn’t mean they have a right to hurt others. And, just because someone has BPD doesn’t mean they are monster. It’s a spectrum.
“Monster” is a matter of personal opinion.
@@Homoclite Well she’s a monster and that’s a fact anything else?
A diagnosis is just used to explain, not to excuse.
@@kendrashaaaa I wasn't disagreeing with you.
The ultimate revenge you could ever give a narcissist, is exposure. I applaud you Johnny Depp 👏👏👏.
She thought no one would find out how disgusting and evil she is👏🤣😃
Funnily enough she hasn’t been diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder
She wasn't diagnosed with narcissism
She is not a narcissist. If you can't even get these diagnostic facts straight, how can you rely on your own biased judgement of unconditional support of a man who is an alcoholic, drug user and best friend of Marilyn Manson.
Anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of personality disorders would immediately recognize from all of the audio recordings we have heard that Amber fits the profile of a classic borderline/histrionic.
Yes. In the interest of avoiding an unethical diagnosing of her I refrained from specifics but I've always said AH is a cluster b. She screams it, it would seem ironically.
AND NARCISSIST!
@@zoso1980 What - are you a professional?
@@raz0rcarich99 No, not a professional, but I lived with a diagnosed BPD. I've seen the traits. It's not my place to say I "think" AH has them. I've always said I see signs of it though of her being disordered. Casually throwing out a armchair diagnosis isn't helpful. Saying she exhibits signs of a cluster b, it going pretty far on its own with out proper testing. I'm not qualified to diagnose.
Imagine thinking that all classic borderlines are like this
As a psychology student it is really informative and interesting to follow this trial, especially this testimony (for obvious reasons) but I just can't help to be irritated by the fact that it is all broadcast for the whole world to see. I'm from Germany and I'm pretty sure this kind of broadcasting is completely illegal here. This is the most intimite and personal stuff they're talking about and it would be uncomfortable (but necessary) to do infront of all the people in the courtroom - but the whole world?! Does anybody know how this decision to make the trial public is made? And what about protecting personal information (like medical info) of all parties involved?
Not defending the publicity. Rather, I think the explanation or reasoning is that Depp is suing for defamation against him-- Heard has taken away his career, ruined his mentality, and wants to besmirch his name even further. This broadcasting would be proof of his innocence, to those that may think he would win due to bias in the jury or something
I think in US they can film trials but yes I'm a psychology student also in UK and regardless of what she's done surely her diagnosis is private and confidential, I mean she is wicked but she is mentally ill so it's got to be treated more sensitively. I don't think this is the way, make he take down statement he hit her, get her in major therapy and both of them get on with their lives
Johnny Depp pushed to have the trial being made public, amber didn't want that.
Well ultimately in the US, all court cases are open to the public as they are public record. Not all trials are streamed, but it’s becoming more and more common. I appreciate it being public record, but don’t go out of my way to search or sit and read/ watch all cases that become accessible. It’s just different ethnocentrism. Plus, a lot of cold cases are being relooked at because normal citizens are finding things that fell through the cracks many years ago.
@@ednanonono I try to find info about this online. Would you know where to find this info? I would really love to have some sources when someone attacks me for criticizing JD and his legal team.
The way that amber spent the entire time doodling, rolling her eyes, and just staring off into space everytime the therapist spoke just really irked me like girl.. how u gonna fake PTSD and then act like that
I think she may be trying to act like she doesn’t care so that she doesn’t seem vulnerable. Having a diagnosis like this, which is so stigmatized, talked about right in front of you to a courtroom and broadcast to the whole world would probably be mortifying and horrible. Plus she is probably questioning her entire self and identity and I can only imagine how scary a diagnosis like this would be. Idk tho I could be wrong
doodling lmao i cant HAHAHHA
I'm a psychiatrist and i totally agree with this forensic psychologist. Seems like a consistent personality evaluation, specially in terms of the histrionic traits, which we can easily seen in this court!
what's being a psychiatrist like
If Dr Curry was a teacher, id attend her class. Its nice she breaks down what she’s trying to explain for us to understand it better than just saying “its facts. Deal with it” or “if you dont know, look it up later”