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Much rather buy a used one, depreciates less, less likely to have random bugs and issues compared to a brand new car, parts likely to be readily available. Why choose something like a new 1.0 A3 over a used M140i 😂😂😂
Got mine in 2017 its on a 63 and was on 53k now on 88k. 5 years and 35k miles its had 1 breakdown (fuel injector which cost £600 to fix but was a full service with plugs). Drop links , rear shocks , front discs and pads and 2 sets of tyres about sums it up with servicing at a german specialist. Guess im around the £2200-£2400 ball park for 5 years ownership which i think is really good. £10 a week £40 a month sort of cost so go buy 1 and enjoy people : )
Sounds like a lot of money on paper but when you calculate the miles and smiles it's given, it's honestly nothing! The N55 is an amazing lump and I'm happy someone else out there has another happy story with theirs
Great video. Just gone from an lci 135 to a 140. Unbelievable cars for the money. The power and performance is unmatched when factoring value. I miss the sound of the N55 though. Luckily the MPE on the 140 makes up for it. Keep up the good work bro. Also highly recommend a ghost immobiliser. A pain in the arse but fantastic piece of kit
Although visually it's the same car, the jump from a N55 to a B58 is massive but you can't knock the N55. Good cars for the money since they're so much cheaper but the B58 is worth every penny though. The N55 trump card will always be the noise but it's hard to put down an MPPSK B58 as they're amazing if you ask me but the difference isn't huge enough to knock the B58 in my opinion. A ghost immobiliser is a must on any car worth circa £20k. With my M135i, I had a Faraday bag and a Stoplock Pro Elite (m sport steering wheel left is too common too) which is all fairly sufficient but on the M140i, a ghost is definitely needed!
@@CarNitty 100% I was a little disappointed with the sound of the 140 if I’m honest. I can imagine stock they’re abit underwhelming. The Rae of the n55 is something else. Puts any 4 pot to shame. Lovely car bro
The B58 just sounds muffled. Let's not forget it's a completely different block and with modern emissions especially the OPF regs, it will put a strain on the sound.
This is a great presentation. I've got a 120i M Sport, and bought it at 5 yo with full BMW Service History. I think they have a service warranty plan at £60 per month, so might go for that (at a main BMW dealership near me). So £60 per month for something like a M135i is very good.
You've just got to weigh up the money being put into it and the length of service it's giving back to you. Unless it's financially crippling you, I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be kept for as long as possible
@@CarNitty I've just worked out the service cost over duration and 21p a day is absolutely NOTHING I've spent more than that one one bar of chocolate 🤣 the reason I respected your context is a lot of us forget the duration between major services and just how much we spend on other junk that could be running a nice car
N55 sadly famous rod bearings. about 100000km and risks goes up ( in my case it was 99000km when engine totally blow away->15000€+ 5000€ other "little" repairs) @@CarNitty
I'm glad this video has helped your buying decision if you're in the market looking to buy one. Do check out my other videos in the series where I compare my M135i against other cars that are similar in terms of money or performance. It should give any buyer a full insight into what a great car it is for the package
I'm glad this video has helped and will only push you towards buying one! Do checkout my TH-cam series on the M135i and it's competitors in terms of price and value
@@CarNitty i just got one from auction for 4.7k 100k mileage I hope it sells only needs a steering rack - quick car iv been driving it without power steering for now
Absolutely. Cracking cars for the money. You can't go wrong with them. Not as potent as the B58 cars but the price savings are so huge you can't complain
The running costs aren’t half bad on an M-lite. I was like you, worrying about how much it was going to cost to run but when it comes to servicing, I do the majority of it and even when it goes to a specialist it’s not bad. M cars are a different kettle of fish considering it’s ‘M tax’. Gutted your getting rid of the car though. Have you made a decision into what you want next?
They're not really not bad at all for servicing or maintenance. People assume they're higher to maintain just because they require an extra 2 spark plugs. The M tax truly is ridiculous isn't it? One of many things that can stop people getting into one. Yeah it was a hard decision to get rid of it but I've already bought my new car. It's still got 6 cylinders. Hang tight to see what it is as a video will drop soon!
what car/s are you thinking about getting next? feel like the only place to go after these cars is an M car, but the prices right now are silly for older M's
I've already bought my new car. It's a 6 cylinder powerplant. Still petrol ofc. A reveal video will drop in the next few weeks so hang tight. Older M cars require a lot of work. An E46 M3 is no longer modern enough to daily drive in my opinion. It's something that has to be a weekend toy due to the age of it. An E92 M3 will be very thirsty on fuel and the common rod bearing issues and finally an F80 M3 commands huge money!
98,000 miles on mine 35,000 of them a well sprited best miles i could ever put on a car 😂😂 dont plan to get rid ever run her into the ground plus its a manual with a sunroof special car ;)
If you're in a position to keep the car for a long period, do it. They're amazing cars and they deserve long lives with owners that care for them. They may just be an M Lite but they're great cars
Depends on what the tarmac condition is and whether the wheel is straight or not. Never felt the back twitch unless I tried putting down 100% power or round a bend at speed. I've reviewed my stock M135i against a Stage 2+ 335i N55 already on my channel
Got very very lucky. The tyres were fresh when I got them and they lasted the 7/8k miles of my ownership. New owners already bought a full set of tyres 😂
No I didn't. BMW claim the gearbox is non-servicable and lifelong but that's obviously not the case as nothing can withstand no maintenance. ZF themselves sell the filters and oils and it can be done which would've been on my list had the car stayed in my possession
70 -90K miles BMW recommended for the ZF to be serviced any BMW Specialist will tell you this Service kit alone is £250/300 . Labour is around 2 hours.. how you paid £300 for a full service Inc x6 plugs and labour is beyond me!
thinking of buying a 1 series 118d. this would be cheaper to repair then a car like your one wont it? the amount of money i’ve spent fixing my shitttyy unreliable ford focus. surely bmw cant be that bad😂
A 118d and a 135i are incomparable apart from suspension which would be the same if the 118 is an M Sport. The 135i isn't a cheap car to run but it's not expensive either. It's very affordable for someone that wants a fast car but can't get into an M car. I say life's too short to drive boring cars that don't put a smile on your face
@@shaungeorge6579 if you want the better car, it's the EP3. More fun and a raw experience overall. The FN2 is a lot more comfy and refined for daily driving but loses the raw feel. Can't go wrong with either but that matters more is the deciding factor here. I've reviewed both cars on my channel already
You know how when you get something heavily discounted or for free and it just feels/tastes amazing because the bang for buck is insane compared to a £100 steak/item which has to really hit the spot for it to be worthwhile? That's what an M Lite is like to an M car. The M Lite is so budget friendly, it always does the job but the M car does have to be justified as a purchase.
Honestly i was really wantin the m2 looking lookin the dealer where i got my 135 rung me up we got a m2 in we will give you bk what you paid for the 135i and discount you on the m2 i couldn’t justify it same engine n55 life fuck b58 just remapped it stage 1 now m2 wont even be close 😂 but i like your theory it needs to be justified its comin up to 100,000 think il treat her i got the mtc stage 2 package at home polly bush front and back and a MAJOR SERVICE
@@juskillz5229 an M2 is still an M2. I hate it lacks the bucket seats and the mirrors don't have the signature M mirrors (cheap eBay fix) but the seats are criminal. I think you've got to really want an M experience of you buy the OG M2 as on paper, the B58 is a better car and cheaper but I still have respect for those that go with the OG M2 over B58
My 435d is similar as in looks the same as a basic 420d bar the M performance blue caliper breaks. And lucky you didn't need to fork out for breaks as I have just paid over £1000 for pads and discs all round 😂 I'm just over £2000 all in...in the 6 months I have had mine lol £500 for service plus small steering rack repair...£600 for new tires and the £1000 for pads and disks....but still worth it though..mine is a 2017 with 54000 miles. Bought it for £20000 with 46000 on it and another lucky escape is I got my egr replacement done under warranty/recall as I was losing coolant big time and luckily it was the egr value that was causing it but recall paid for that....every cloud and all that 😂😂😎😎 but that feeling when overtaking 🔥🔥🔥
Yes brakes cost around £1000 for all round set. Got very lucky indeed! Sounds like you've had a hefty price to pay to run yours but those twin turbo N57 lumps are very solid and provide good pace and economy. No doubt the car will pay you back with smiles!
My ownership example proves these are not money pits especially a high mileage one at that. A performance Japanese car can still cost a lot to maintain and repair
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Much rather buy a used one, depreciates less, less likely to have random bugs and issues compared to a brand new car, parts likely to be readily available. Why choose something like a new 1.0 A3 over a used M140i 😂😂😂
Absolutely, a second hand car represents amazing value for money and maintenance and repairs aren't bad as long as you buy the right car!
I bought one a week ago… big man car, the noise, speed and power is just intoxicating
Definitely. Amazing cars for the money and bang for buck!
Mpg?
@@TrapHut I covered this in the 5x things I love chapter. Just the time stamps in the description to get to that section
@@TrapHut 37mpg average
That's the probably the highest you can achieve driving like an absolute granny though bear in mind
Got mine in 2017 its on a 63 and was on 53k now on 88k. 5 years and 35k miles its had 1 breakdown (fuel injector which cost £600 to fix but was a full service with plugs). Drop links , rear shocks , front discs and pads and 2 sets of tyres about sums it up with servicing at a german specialist. Guess im around the £2200-£2400 ball park for 5 years ownership which i think is really good. £10 a week £40 a month sort of cost so go buy 1 and enjoy people : )
Sounds like a lot of money on paper but when you calculate the miles and smiles it's given, it's honestly nothing! The N55 is an amazing lump and I'm happy someone else out there has another happy story with theirs
great video! picking up my m135i this sunday!! its a low spec, but good service history and a three door manual! cant wait
A manual will be very fun! Good luck with your new purchase!
Great video. Just gone from an lci 135 to a 140. Unbelievable cars for the money. The power and performance is unmatched when factoring value. I miss the sound of the N55 though. Luckily the MPE on the 140 makes up for it. Keep up the good work bro. Also highly recommend a ghost immobiliser. A pain in the arse but fantastic piece of kit
Although visually it's the same car, the jump from a N55 to a B58 is massive but you can't knock the N55. Good cars for the money since they're so much cheaper but the B58 is worth every penny though.
The N55 trump card will always be the noise but it's hard to put down an MPPSK B58 as they're amazing if you ask me but the difference isn't huge enough to knock the B58 in my opinion.
A ghost immobiliser is a must on any car worth circa £20k. With my M135i, I had a Faraday bag and a Stoplock Pro Elite (m sport steering wheel left is too common too) which is all fairly sufficient but on the M140i, a ghost is definitely needed!
@@CarNitty 100% I was a little disappointed with the sound of the 140 if I’m honest. I can imagine stock they’re abit underwhelming. The Rae of the n55 is something else. Puts any 4 pot to shame. Lovely car bro
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The B58 just sounds muffled. Let's not forget it's a completely different block and with modern emissions especially the OPF regs, it will put a strain on the sound.
I love this video so much, thanks so much for the info I think this is the final straw for me getting one next week
I'm really glad I was able to help your buying decision! Good luck with it. Wish you all the best
driving an 2017 M140i myself, beside the broken AC i have zero issues with it after owning it 2years now as daily driver.
The M140i has a different engine so reliability and running costs will vary but only slightly as they're both very similar blocks
This is a great presentation. I've got a 120i M Sport, and bought it at 5 yo with full BMW Service History. I think they have a service warranty plan at £60 per month, so might go for that (at a main BMW dealership near me). So £60 per month for something like a M135i is very good.
It honestly doesn't ruin the bank to own a car like the M135i!
I got a golf gti 2.0gti dsg
And I like the logic you apply to the running cost Outlook, doesn't make me feel so angry when I thump money out on it now
You've just got to weigh up the money being put into it and the length of service it's giving back to you. Unless it's financially crippling you, I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be kept for as long as possible
@@CarNitty I've just worked out the service cost over duration and 21p a day is absolutely NOTHING I've spent more than that one one bar of chocolate 🤣 the reason I respected your context is a lot of us forget the duration between major services and just how much we spend on other junk that could be running a nice car
@@sbr1160 I'm glad I've opened up your way of thinking and you've got more appreciation for your GTI now
2 years for me was like 20000€. New engine, head light (water gets inside), new battery, brakes need to repair and so on)
Very surprised to hear you say you've spent that much on maintaining your car
N55 sadly famous rod bearings. about 100000km and risks goes up ( in my case it was 99000km when engine totally blow away->15000€+ 5000€ other "little" repairs) @@CarNitty
Transparent and clear. Your video alone may have just given me the green light on this car.
I'm glad this video has helped your buying decision if you're in the market looking to buy one. Do check out my other videos in the series where I compare my M135i against other cars that are similar in terms of money or performance. It should give any buyer a full insight into what a great car it is for the package
Great video! Looking at getting one of these very soon and this has really helped.
I'm glad this video has helped and will only push you towards buying one! Do checkout my TH-cam series on the M135i and it's competitors in terms of price and value
@@CarNitty Will do, thanks!
Excellent video brother, love the content and subscribed
@@AbsSlemo thank you for your kind words. Appreciate the love 🙏🏽
2023 not a single m135i from 2014 sold for less then 12k for 90k mileage wow what a steal considering you brought it 3 years ago
It really was but there was always high mileage or categorised examples going for the 10k mark at the time
@@CarNitty i just got one from auction for 4.7k 100k mileage I hope it sells only needs a steering rack - quick car iv been driving it without power steering for now
I bought a m135i from 2016 (facelift) with around 51kkm
Paid just a bit under 30k
Thanks for video, im now probably getting this car
Glad I was able to influence your buying decision
Got one in December, extended warranty has been good so far one injector replaced.... not for the faint hearted but worth every second
Absolutely. Cracking cars for the money. You can't go wrong with them. Not as potent as the B58 cars but the price savings are so huge you can't complain
The running costs aren’t half bad on an M-lite. I was like you, worrying about how much it was going to cost to run but when it comes to servicing, I do the majority of it and even when it goes to a specialist it’s not bad. M cars are a different kettle of fish considering it’s ‘M tax’.
Gutted your getting rid of the car though. Have you made a decision into what you want next?
They're not really not bad at all for servicing or maintenance. People assume they're higher to maintain just because they require an extra 2 spark plugs.
The M tax truly is ridiculous isn't it? One of many things that can stop people getting into one.
Yeah it was a hard decision to get rid of it but I've already bought my new car. It's still got 6 cylinders. Hang tight to see what it is as a video will drop soon!
Will definitely miss this beast at our meets but no doubt your new car is a headturner 👀
No doubt my new car fits in more with the DNA of TRL 👀
what car/s are you thinking about getting next?
feel like the only place to go after these cars is an M car, but the prices right now are silly for older M's
I've already bought my new car. It's a 6 cylinder powerplant. Still petrol ofc. A reveal video will drop in the next few weeks so hang tight.
Older M cars require a lot of work. An E46 M3 is no longer modern enough to daily drive in my opinion. It's something that has to be a weekend toy due to the age of it. An E92 M3 will be very thirsty on fuel and the common rod bearing issues and finally an F80 M3 commands huge money!
98,000 miles on mine 35,000 of them a well sprited best miles i could ever put on a car 😂😂 dont plan to get rid ever run her into the ground plus its a manual with a sunroof special car ;)
If you're in a position to keep the car for a long period, do it. They're amazing cars and they deserve long lives with owners that care for them. They may just be an M Lite but they're great cars
What about the fuel consumption? How many miles for a gallons / km for a liter?
20 on local roads
30 on dual carriageway
40 on motorway
Is this car twitchy under heavy acceleration? And have you driven a 335i n55? Do you know how they would compare?
Depends on what the tarmac condition is and whether the wheel is straight or not. Never felt the back twitch unless I tried putting down 100% power or round a bend at speed.
I've reviewed my stock M135i against a Stage 2+ 335i N55 already on my channel
Lovely car mate 👌🏽 👍🏽 👏
Thank you for your kind comment
Objective achieved, already on the classifieds.
Good luck finding your perfect 135! Amazing car for the money
@@CarNitty thanks man, it would be nice to meet you one day. I don't think you're far from me, I can see the 135i in the flesh
Definitely. if you're based in East London, you can catch me at Team Rocket London events @team_rocket_ldn on IG
@@CarNitty I'll have a look, I'm often down their for work
The fact that you had such a tail happy car-ish and havent spent any money on tyres boggles me😂
Got very very lucky. The tyres were fresh when I got them and they lasted the 7/8k miles of my ownership. New owners already bought a full set of tyres 😂
Best for the budget ✨✨✨
Definitely 🙌 There's no better performance car at the 15k budget range
have you ever serviced your gearbox ??
No I didn't. BMW claim the gearbox is non-servicable and lifelong but that's obviously not the case as nothing can withstand no maintenance.
ZF themselves sell the filters and oils and it can be done which would've been on my list had the car stayed in my possession
70 -90K miles BMW recommended for the ZF to be serviced any BMW Specialist will tell you this Service kit alone is £250/300 . Labour is around 2 hours.. how you paid £300 for a full service Inc x6 plugs and labour is beyond me!
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Anyone has problems with bottom end shells picking up
Not sure I understand what you mean? Are you referring to the rod bearings?
Good video
Glad you enjoyed
thinking of buying a 1 series 118d. this would be cheaper to repair then a car like your one wont it? the amount of money i’ve spent fixing my shitttyy unreliable ford focus. surely bmw cant be that bad😂
A 118d and a 135i are incomparable apart from suspension which would be the same if the 118 is an M Sport.
The 135i isn't a cheap car to run but it's not expensive either. It's very affordable for someone that wants a fast car but can't get into an M car.
I say life's too short to drive boring cars that don't put a smile on your face
best car for £5k? £10k? etc
That's a hard question. All depends on the usage you have in mind for the car
FN2 Civic type r or the ep3
@@shaungeorge6579 if you want the better car, it's the EP3. More fun and a raw experience overall. The FN2 is a lot more comfy and refined for daily driving but loses the raw feel. Can't go wrong with either but that matters more is the deciding factor here. I've reviewed both cars on my channel already
@@CarNitty cheapest car to get 500 hp
I feel a proper m car wont put a smile on my face as much as my m135i
You know how when you get something heavily discounted or for free and it just feels/tastes amazing because the bang for buck is insane compared to a £100 steak/item which has to really hit the spot for it to be worthwhile? That's what an M Lite is like to an M car.
The M Lite is so budget friendly, it always does the job but the M car does have to be justified as a purchase.
Honestly i was really wantin the m2 looking lookin the dealer where i got my 135 rung me up we got a m2 in we will give you bk what you paid for the 135i and discount you on the m2 i couldn’t justify it same engine n55 life fuck b58 just remapped it stage 1 now m2 wont even be close 😂 but i like your theory it needs to be justified its comin up to 100,000 think il treat her i got the mtc stage 2 package at home polly bush front and back and a MAJOR SERVICE
@@juskillz5229 an M2 is still an M2. I hate it lacks the bucket seats and the mirrors don't have the signature M mirrors (cheap eBay fix) but the seats are criminal.
I think you've got to really want an M experience of you buy the OG M2 as on paper, the B58 is a better car and cheaper but I still have respect for those that go with the OG M2 over B58
Way too much talking about a mechanic shop, not all of us live within 100 miles of you.
Key point here is have a good specialist or mechanic or be pressured to pay through the nose for repairs.
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My 435d is similar as in looks the same as a basic 420d bar the M performance blue caliper breaks. And lucky you didn't need to fork out for breaks as I have just paid over £1000 for pads and discs all round 😂 I'm just over £2000 all in...in the 6 months I have had mine lol £500 for service plus small steering rack repair...£600 for new tires and the £1000 for pads and disks....but still worth it though..mine is a 2017 with 54000 miles. Bought it for £20000 with 46000 on it and another lucky escape is I got my egr replacement done under warranty/recall as I was losing coolant big time and luckily it was the egr value that was causing it but recall paid for that....every cloud and all that 😂😂😎😎 but that feeling when overtaking 🔥🔥🔥
Yes brakes cost around £1000 for all round set. Got very lucky indeed!
Sounds like you've had a hefty price to pay to run yours but those twin turbo N57 lumps are very solid and provide good pace and economy. No doubt the car will pay you back with smiles!
Avoid these money pit cars and buy Toyota or Honda.
My ownership example proves these are not money pits especially a high mileage one at that. A performance Japanese car can still cost a lot to maintain and repair