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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- Thanks to Dave Death Motorcycles I took out a 2013 Triumph Speed Triple 1050 for a test ride.
The dual vlog with Badger as pillion is coming soon.
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The ABS on mine has been great. Never had a problem with it.
There must be something wrong with that particular ABS unit, no way Triumph figured that's ok
+Leuff I completely agree dude - like I said, mine doesn't behave that way at all!
Have an '11 Speed Triple. Never had the ABS act like that. Dig the extra torque over an ST.
Glad they fixed the ABS adjust-ability for the newer models. I noticed it was quick to activate still but I started using more front brake instead of rear and it was fine.
from which years are the fixed?
ABS works flawlessly on my 2013 1050 abs. My friends here in Texas with the same iteration of that bike also have no issues. Hope the bike in the video got sorted out properly. Great review!
The sound on these bikes when accelerating, are super, I will buy one just for the sound of it.
Awesome video. Call me weird but I enjoy seeing completely through the bike under the tank because of the engine rotated forward a little bit.
Who Needs a Gear indicator?
I test rode a speed last week 2012 ABS, and didn't experience the same jerky ABS you got maybe it was just this bike ?
SMO, please do a review of the new 2016 Speedy R. I've got a street triple r and looking hard at the new speed. Thanks, keep up the good work.
I feel honoured to have had a sneak preview of this (zips up trousers) but I must say that was a rather large sex toy strapped to Badger's back. Feeling a tad adventurous your Smoship?
+HamSpamJamLamb Camera equipment fella!
Le sigh...
I think pulling the fuse for the ABS would set it to manual braking only.
If you get the R and it's the same then that could be your backup plan :)
+WeeemRCB Honestly mate I doubt that the R version will have this problem - I'm putting it down to a fault with this specific bike.
+Becky York I completely agree - thanks for posting the ABS settings. Very helpful!
9:40 "indicate you fucking dick"
As you go the wrong way round a round about. Why are bad drivers always the most angry.
Never had that ABS thing at all on my 14 plate? Great looking bike and single sided swing arm worth it for me!
+The Crumble Agreed - love the swing arm and the wheels, really set the bike off. With a low-slung exhaust I think they look pretty great!
+Smo I also have a 2014 (non R), and have no issues with the ABS... Looks like an issue with this particular bike. Try another one! :)
Same, I have the 2013 and no issues whatsoever with the ABS. Think the breaks on the reviewed bike is shot
National speed limit!
Does not mean 60mph. Have you seen national speed limit on motorway?
National speed limit means, speed that is suitable for the type of road and conditions up to the limit of the road. Could be 30mph could be 60 or 70mph.
You could be on a national speed road, do 40 mph and be done for driving with undue care and attention
I don't think they should even have ABS on a sports bike. Take it off, save the weight IMO. I've never had it on any of my bikes, and I've never once needed it either in 20 years of ridding. When the rear tire starts to slide, you just back off the brake and it comes right back in line.
You cant feel difference between 400cc comparison in sportbikes?? I have rode both bikes many times. Maybe street triple is better, but this was brakes and brakes 😁
It was obviously the bike as it has received endless praise from journalists and even race riders. Those bikes use a lot of engine braking and if you come off the throttle hard the bikes surges and thus loses traction.
Good review and some lovely shots, but once you're on a bike of that weight and power you really should forget about the rear brake except for slow manoeuvres, with the added engine braking of a 1050 you're asking the rear wheel with the least weight on it to do all the work.
+Surrey Rider I wasn't leaving it to do all the work dude, I'd say when I'm riding I probably use 80/20 or 90/10 front/back braking (if you look you can see me releasing the front lever) - but even under light use it was acting up. The bike must have had some kind of problem.
Fair enough mate, definitely something wrong with it!
+Surrey Rider Yeah - I had a chat with the dealership when I took it back so I'm sure they looked into it. I'm still very interested in riding the Speed Triple R.
I had ABS issues with my brand new Street Triple and the problem wasn't that the sensor needed to be replaced but it did need to be closer to the pick-up wheel which I did with changing the thickness of the washer under the sensor.
+looseparts Thanks for the heads up dude, no doubt some people will find that info extremely useful!
Its a real shame the ABS ruined your enjoyment mate. Gutter!
I have to admit I'm not a big fan of the current Speed Triples styling. I've had two of the original version 1050s, raw looks, utter fun and smiles for miles! And no ABS shenanigans.
It did seem pretty extreme, considering you weren't really pushing it that hard. Faulty sensor? Faulty set-up? Maybe your local Triumph dealer could shed some light?
+Rob Ash Yeah dude I'm sure there was some sort of fault with it - I had a chat with the dealer when I took it back so I'm confident they've taken a look at it.
Love my 2011(non abs) haven't had a go on a street triple yet though. I've got a gpr low boy pipe and it sounds amazing. My misses also comes out with me a lot and she says it's the most comfortable bike I've had.
abs on my 2014 is perfect and very unintrusive much better then my old street triple 660
Yep, that hole is a put-off. I know that filling it would have meant extra weight, but I like my bike to look like no space is wasted. I like my bike to look... compact and stocky.
ABS is horse :/ dead shame, that would almost persuade me to buy a non-abs and/or older model.
+VtwinVlogster The hole is weird, for sure! Don't let the ABS issue put you off, I think it was a problem with that specific bike.
Hmm, Let's hope it was just an issue with that specific bike! Best way to find out?
Find another speed triple to take out! :D
you can adjust the abs which is what im guessing previous owner might have done as that is 100% not normal ..
Why the hell was the ABS doing that? It sounded like the bike was bouncing, that would put me right off.
+Im Dead Silence No idea - it must have had something wrong with it. Nobody else I know who owns/has ridden one experienced the same thing. Just bad luck I guess!
What are the differences between a 2011 and a 2013 Speed triple? I can see different gauges
I can only think it was duff ABS. I didn't have this happen, but people have complained in the past about the ABS on the Speed so maybe it's a common problem until it gets fixed?
+Captain Rambunctious Maybe dude - had a quick Google and couldn't find anything to do with the rear brake, only the front. Either way, something was definitely up but I want to try another.
Really professional video as always chap! Shame about the dodgy ABS
Love the DSLR Shots at the beginning, really need to try and get some shots like that. Such a pain bringing a tripod on a bike :(
+SirJambo Thanks dude! It's definitely a pain in the ass to haul camera gear about, I don't enjoy doing it!
The style, colour is beautiful.. See what you mean by that rear brake.. Dude beautifully reviewed and shot man.. Awesome camera work..
+Wolfie Pics Thanks buddy!
I own a 2013 1050 R model and I almost never have the ABS kick in. You need to stop standing on the rear brake, the 1050 motor has massive engine brakes that can lock the rear wheel easily and the ABS can't intervene with that. If you are near rear wheel lock with engine brakes (which is most of the time) as soon as you touch the rear brake the ABS will chime in. I have never had the ABS come on with the front brakes, ever.
it makes me sad inside that you didn't like it :( But atleast the StreetTripleR is still EPIC :D A buddy of mine is looking a Speed, but there has been a few times his eye has been cough by other bikes, but he'll have watched this and it'll help point him in the right direction :) basically to get a Street ;) lol
+MorryMoto Don't let him be put off dude, this bike must have had an issue - there's no way all of them are like this.
***** lol yea he texted me straight after he watched your video and he was like "I'm still getting the Speed" lol :)
The ABS is broken, you can't really judge it based on that if it's doing that. There is no way whatsoever that is normal.
+Rob Bown Totally agree, which is why I didn't!
You brake with the rear into corners??
bummer ...its got to be something wrong with that abs.. my friend has 1 and never does that's...cant wait fr the R review...cool vid
+CM MOTO Yeah dude, shame but it hasn't put me off - can't wait to jump on an R.
they are one of my favorite bikes ...saving up for one ...have to see the R review...thanks Smo
YEAH SMO can that ABS be shut off . because i was think of getting the either speed or the street next year ...
+bandit Brian It can be, check Becky's reply to Weem's comment fella, she tells you how to do it.
I test rode the a 2015 R last week and found it very much like my mates Tiger 800 (Try one as for a dual sport there surprisingly fun). Also test rode the 765RS and 16 Speed R and preferred the 16 Speed R to the 765 RS (very tracked focussed and the brakes are stupidly powerful)
Hey Smo, that ABS failure brings up a point, build and quality of materials aside, is there a possibility we ca hear you talk about the reliability factor on the Triumph (street/speed)? I'm still undecided about what middle weigh naked to get next. Possibilities are: speed or street (I hear the street is much more smoother), Kawa Z900, Yamaha FZ-09.
I took one out to see if i would prefer it over the 675 the dam plastic bits dug into my leg and the dealers answer was "oh yes thats common just file them down -.- lol"
They really need to give it a full makeover to come anywhere close to the S1000r!
Still Cant believe SMO hasn't tried one!!
+Neil Rawlins Dude, I'd love to jump on an S1000r, not gonna lie! One day ;)
+Smo If you ever come over the pond your welcome to give mine a try :)
I went from an RR to the 675R but couldn't cope with the loss in power moved onto all the naked's but the BMW ticket the box's.
I think also abs has a problem I've done track days worn out my original very soft tires in 2500 KM never commute so mostly mountain riding and it has never operated bike has just over 5000 KM now
That's a fault in the system. I rode one the same year and it never did that. But yes I second riding the new Speed Triple, It's a wheelie machine that's for sure. There is probably no gear indicator as they pretty much didn't change the bike for almost 20 years.
It's gearbox busted a selector fork , warranty job, traded in now for a 15plate speed . Happier now , never was 'entirely' happy with it......
I ride an '09. I've ridden mine almost every day for 7 years now, best bike I've ever owned, plan to ride it until one of us falls apart.
+PKpixel I feel very similarly about my Street!
A good watch even if it wasn't the 'R', I have wondered at times if I should have got the big brother, but I love my 14 STR. Either on the twisters or straights I always feel a sense of accomplishment - compared when I ride the speed and I felt I was running out of road to quickly (same old story for litre bikes).
More duel logs on there way SMO ?
+Triumph Gunner Yeah, fair point - there's no doubt in my mind that the Street is plenty for the road, but I'm thinking ahead a little to more track days etc.
Definitely more Dualvlogs on the way dude - we recorded one on the Speed which is coming soon.
The same engine as my Sprint ST, a beast!!! :D
I'd pull the ABS fuse then be pissed that I spent $1000 on ABS. And also pissed about the ABS light that's always on.
No offense, but I adore my FZ-09 too, and I am positive it would wip your speed triple's ass, lol.
I mean your street triple, and no doubt this piece of shite.
+Jeff RT No offence taken.
The ABS needs attention!!
I would say there's a knackered sensor on the wheel that abs ain't right
+chappy2121 Agreed matey.
Excellent review mate, it's a shame you didn't like it as much as you wanted to but I'd like to think that it has a fault with the ABS, they can't all be like that...
+metalhead18241 Totally agree dude.
Seems like they may have spent more time refining the street triple in comparison to the speed. Would kind of make sense they probably sell a lot more streets. Maybe the speed will get a nice overhaul soon.
+urabuS 86 I reckon it had a fault with it fella. I'd like to try another.
"National speed limit? Yeah, for suicidal people!"
>speeds up
also you toggle ABS by pulling the fuse xd
The ABS has to be a faulty sensor. If the ABS ring is clean and in good condition I would replace the sensor.
+RevvedUpBiker Totally agree dude, must have been a fault.
That would be a shame to let a faulty abs system and a stock exhaust hinder you from getting one of the funnest bikes on the planet. The ST3 is a nice machine, but just not in the same category as the Speed. That said, you've got have some hooligan in you;)
+Cal Moto I'm itching to jump on an R version matey!
+Smo Try to find a 2013 with the forged rims; that's where the real value and performance boost is. I wasn't able to find the one I wanted and bought a 2015 Std.....it's fucking awesome!
Fair to say that machine moves...but that ABS looks on the verge of dangerous :/
+A.J The Unexceptional Biker It must be a problem with that bike dude - as I'm sure you'd agree there's no way it'd be as popular as it is with a problem like that affecting them all.
True, you may have been exceptionally unlucky.
I have never heard bike ABS chatter like that, on my STR it's silent with just a pulsing in the lever to let me know it just saved my skin, same thing when I tested a MT-09 Tracer. That bike needs to go to a Triumph dealer or someone with the diagnostic equipment to talk to the ABS pump.
+stonesie81 Completely agree buddy - they're aware that something was up so I'm sure they'll have sorted it by now.
I've thought a few times about moving to a speed over the street, I just can't think of a time where it's going to be 4000 CAD better! I can't wait to see what they do with the street 800 (RS with the ohlins and brembo? yes please!)
That's odd...i have a 2013 Speed Triple R and the ABS never does that. it's been perfect so far.
oddly enough, I'm looking at a 2015 Street Triple R with 2800 miles for $8,000 ( 6400 pounds
pos talk to text..
you got the idea
Good review, I've ridden the 1050 and didn't have any abs issues, as it's second hand I suspect suspension set up. from the video I could see the front dive to fast, a bit of pre load off the rear and a bit more compression damping on the front. the R is more adjustable so don't take as they give it too you make sure it's set up. the base setting on most Triumphs are way out.
+Colin “OldFart” You could well be right fella, I'd like to jump on another and verify it, but I would be completely blown away if they all behaved like this.
Love the Speed Triple :D
Hi SMO, I have the Speed Triple R; never had that problem.
In respect to the gear indicator; I believe that the 675 has a 'fly by wire' system and the 1050 has not. That's why it's missing on the 1050; so I'm led to believe 😕
+SBKPete Ah, that would explain it! Wasn't a deal breaker, I just realised that I use it quite a lot since getting one!
Hi smo. I have a street triple rx and find the abs very intrusive. triumph website says it can be turned off but seems to be missing when I enter the menu. can you turn your abs off? its the main thing I have a problem with about the bike. like your reviews. keep up the good work.
+Craig Wall I'm sorry to hear that dude, mine is great (although I experienced the crap out of it on this Speed as you could tell).
If you check out Becky's reply to Weem's comment below she explains how to turn it off.
Would you buy it if it weren't for the ABS issue
Honestly, probably not - I'd rather ride the R version as that's the one I'd most likely buy. That said, if it wasn't for the unfortunate ABS problem this would have been one of my favourite test rides, for sure!
Great edit there at the beginning. I love that black and red and single sided swing arm. I have NEVER heard anything like that ABS before. Deal killer for me.
+CNCycle Thanks buddy! Don't let this issue put you off - there must be something up with this bike in particular.
So THAT'S what that was! the ABS kicking in under hard braking. I thought it was that in combo with downshifting when it happened to me twice. Otherwise, though, the ABS has never acted up on my '13 Speed Triple R in the 5 months I've had it (new, unsold model off the showroom). Definitely have another go on a different bike. I'm completely taken with mine, honestly. Great shots of the bike, man. Always fun to watch. Looking forward to seeing if a ride on the R will give you a better impression. Cheers.
+Phil M I can't wait to ride an R version matey - I'm going to have a chat with the dealer and see if it's possible to get one in.
I must of been going steady or like you say a poss fault as my wet ride on one other well didn't get a twitch like that, I couldn't understand why no gear indicator either
+CARL WARD Must have been a fault dude, my STR doesn't do that at all.
I know this is a fairly old vid but how did your gf like riding on this bike? how did it feel with a passenger? mine will be riding with me a lot too so I need to consider that. thanks
She didn't like it much dude - felt perfectly fine for me, but the 'round' tank made it hard for her to hold on.
Just found your channel yesterday and it only took watching a few videos to end up subbing. Very interested in getting a Street Triple or Speed Triple as a next bike (won't be till next year most likely), and after watching your reviews of your bike in some of your videos it's only really reinforced that feeling. Plus you're a likeable and funny guy, bonus points!
On this video, shame that there were issues with the ABS and no gear indicator. Hopefully the ABS issue was just an anomaly and isn't present in all the Speed Triples. Looking forward to another video if you get a chance to ride the R model and find notable differences.
Cheers
+335841 Thanks dude, I really appreciate it!
I'm absolutely confident that this doesn't affect all Speed Triples, it must be something specifically wrong with this bike.
Nice video! I have a 2015 1050 R version. No issues with abs. I had a 2012 street triple and traded up to the 1050 for a bit more power. I did change out the underseat exhaust system for a low boy. picked up a few additional hps and lowered the weight of the bike.
+SuperPendulous Exactly what I'm thinking of doing fella - you must be loving it!
Perhaps wait for the 2016 Speed Triple - that'll have a gear indicator, engine modes and a little extra refinement. Might even be lighter.
+CULCHETHSTYLE Nice spec, but it's reeeeeeeeeeeal ugly to look at!
everything was so much fun until the ABS twitches ruins it all
Has anybody considered that the Brembo braking system on this bike has a 20-30%% more bite than the Nissin system on the Striple R... Combine that with a really hard (or bad) set of brake pads and you' ve got yourself on a frontwheel instant locker..
My friend had the same problem adjusting to the stopping power of the Brembo system on his Nuda R until he changed the brake pads with a set of softer ones. (Front wheel lockups were common for him as he didn't have ABS which was very frustrating for him also)
Please don't get me wrong, but I feel that maybe you' re just not too accustomed to the bite of the particular breaking system.
Hope this gives a bit more insight to the specific problem, and help you to not misjudge an otherwise fantastic piece of machinery...
Also forgive my english, I' m from Greece and still learning...
+thermovag It wasn't the front end that had the problem dude.
+Smo Well now I feel like a complete moron...
Great vid as always Smo, look forward to seeing the R version, hopefully that ABS thing is a one-off. Did you tell the dealer, don't want some poor schmuck buying that bike and riding off into the sunset with dodgy ABS
+Spectre223 Yeah dude, I brought it up - it was quite the conversation starter!
I bet it was
I just can t help it...those headlights just turn me completely off from triumphs street/speed triples...
+Sololane Mvlog Yeah, fair enough - they're Marmite I know. Still, when you're in the seat and having the ride of your life it's easy to forget about them =)
+Sololane Mvlog They have single headlight conversions that are not that much and look really good. Don't let something like headlights turn you off to what is arguably the best overall bike on the market. It would be like not sleeping with keira knightley because you thought the outfit she picked out was funny looking.
great review smo, such a shame about the ABS, crazy shit.
+From MySeat Yeah dude, gutted! I'll try another though.
I own this great bike now after trading in from the same bike as SMO has , I can state its non Abs version, and I've had no issues thus far...
+Vadermaker Arnie There must have been something wrong with it dude - I can't wait to try again!
something wrong with the abs... mine never did that! was a pleasure to ride
+extraandy118 Yeah definitely mate, can't wait to try another!
I must ask, when you rode both the STR and the Daytona initially. How different were the engines? I'm yet to get my leg over a STR.
+Knight&Day Low down power is definitely better on the STR over the Daytona, and I'd even say it's probably faster to 60mph, but the Daytona was so bloody fast in the upper rev range when the STR is running out of puff!
I thought that might be the case, cool to know, thanks mang!
can you try a cb 1000 r or a tuono v4 1100?
+Multi3dmaster I'd love to pal!
Good review, the ABS kicking in sounds like a wood pecker lol
+Bikers Quest A roided up one!
awesome video Smo! you'll get a TV job in no time :P
+OldManTriple Thanks dude! If you know anyone please do give them a nudge ;)
I have never engaged ABS on my speedy and I ride the hell out of it.
+sgtjarrodrayner Likewise with my Street!
ABS should be illegal, if you don't know how to brake you don't know how to drive
+Billybob09871 While you're at it, let's ban crumple zones and airbags!
Complety different, crumple zones and airbags don't make other cars more dangerous
+Billybob09871 Anything reliant on mechanical parts, AI control or electrical components can make a car dangerous as any one of them can fail at any time.
Kinda my point its better to get rid of drivers aids and teach people how to actually drive, they don't even mention cadence braking in lessons anymore, they just tell you to let the abs do the emergency stopping, which is why I got rear ended by 2 transit connects, they were both works vehicles, driven by idiots, who left the brakes on despite being locked up, right until they hit my car, and who although only my own speculation, probably had vehicles of their own fitted with abs, so why would thy think to let off the brake if its locked up
+Billybob09871 Yeah, I hear where you're coming from - my biggest gripe with the lack of education in terms of driving and control is that nobody is taught how to control a car that is technically 'out of control' . As you mentioned, if the wheels locked up is one example. Another is if they lose the back end around a corner. Hardly anyone knows what to do, or the difference in characteristics between FWD, RWD & AWD. Don't even get me started on following distances in the rain or driving in ice & snow!
hey smo would you consider getting the speed triple RX? I testrode the street RX and was amazing, i will be buying one in march or april :)
+MrMonocleGaming Nah dude, it's exactly the same as the Street (aside the tail and wheel colour). I've considered the rear end conversion but I'm not 100% on the idea just yet.
+Smo i want to testride a street r now, because i wanna know the difference in seat comfort, im 1m93 and comfort is one of my priorities, on my current bike i get knee pains after 30 mins of riding so it does affect me quite a bit, however i found the street rx to be surprisingly comfortable(considering the daytona back)
+MrMonocleGaming The Speed was lovely and comfortable - feels just the same as the Street in all honesty.
ok, great then, i will still have to go for the street my wallet wont allow me the speed (also i feel like the headlights are further forward on it and dont like it).
Does that windscreen make any difference?
+Robert Greenwood It was so good I'm trying to find out the manufacturer and buy one...
Interesting... I personally think it looks horrid but if it works what the hell. I have seen some that fit on the inside of the fly screen that look slightly better. How effective they are I don't know......
+Robert Greenwood They aren't exactly beauty queens from the front anyway haha. Got a link to the ones that go on the inside by the way?
www.superbikestore.com/powerbronze_light_screen_shield_-_triumph_street_triple_13-15.html
It's an American site bit gives you an idea
ah the lost footage! so did you find out if the abs was faulty?
+Matt Rowe I haven't heard a follow-up but I told the shop when I took it back that I had an issue with it.
Awesome Sp3 review SMO. Seems there is no beating the St3 R.
+Wes Heiser I'm definitely interested to try out the Speed R to make a fair comparison.
This has put me off triumph slightly...
+alistair lettin Don't let it put you off buddy - they're amazing bikes, no doubt. This one must have had a fault.
That one road looked like a tunnel. Insane. Very cool bike. I have a 15
smo where was the end scene filmed
+xIRATUMx Ventnor down fella.
I can't wait to get on and ride you ;)
+Blazer buttons In time big guy, in time.
***** big guy sounds about right, sir ;)
Every review I've read/watched on the Speed Triple says it wants to lift the front wheel. The fact is that not everybody wants the front wheel to lift so my question is how easy is it to keep the front wheel down on "spirited" acceleration?