Do you really need a 1 ton? F250 vs F350 Super Duty, 3/4 ton vs 1 ton!

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  • @Chris.Donley
    @Chris.Donley 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Here in Minnesota, the Registration Cost difference alone is reason enough to go with a F350 over 250/150, around $600-$900 savings per year depending on MSRP. That off-sets a bunch of fuel costs.

  • @jamesabel3677
    @jamesabel3677 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Same for me. I have a 2018 F250 Platinum with payload at 2150. I bought a 5th wheel last year with hitch weight at 2000. The truck pulls the trailer with no issues, however I will be getting an F350 for the higher payload capacity.

    • @ticopowell
      @ticopowell 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Tell us your truck is overweight without telling us your truck is overweight....
      A good hitch in the truck plus propane and batteries will put you overweight without anything else in the truck.

    • @bigp6071
      @bigp6071 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My f150 5.0 has the same payload. I pull a 32 foot tt. Hitch weight around 700 pounds. When I upgrade trucks, I’ll be getting the 350 Godzilla max tow package!

  • @capinuck2648
    @capinuck2648 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    even though i'm not getting a F250, this video really helps me with what F350 i'm going to order. Thank you and good day to you

  • @TheEmmauswalk
    @TheEmmauswalk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    We were in the same situation, not future proofing. Just to test the torque of a gas vs. diesel truck, we test drove. It was no brainer, diesel f350 power stroke high out is the way to go. The Sierra Nevada mountains is like a walk in the park for this beast. Trade it in and got this, and we love it. FYI, a 48-gallon tank helps.

  • @ArnCital
    @ArnCital 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a '85 F-250, 8600 GVW. It is the same as a F-350 except the registration and insurance is much less. It has the same engine (460) as the F-350 with NO cat and has a carb and dizzy. Dana 60 front and Dana 70 rear. Not a dually. BTW it is a High Boy 4x4 with a T-19 4-speed. I built the engine for low end pulling with 250HP at the rear tires (4,000' elevation) and 350 TQ at cruising RPM on regular gasoline. Going slow in the rocks is the key to not breaking stuff or the cab over camper. It pulls strongly from 800 RPM idle to highway speeds in 4th gear. The Eddie AVS2 off road carb is great for low RPM.

  • @dvt3802
    @dvt3802 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First, Thank you Salty i just tripped on this video and so glad you put this out here. My Kid has 27 Fords (oldest 2020 and some 24) some of the
    250s are identical in every way (except) badge and rating number as the 350s. Some dealers get 250s in with helper springs some get 350s without. He tries to order but sometimes one will be close enough, like (2) 350s without helpers, putting timbrens in all of them. His all have the same wheel bearings and brake components. Like i have told the young guys for decades, just look up a bearing or caliper on Ur google, and that goes for most GM, Dodge, Ford single rear wheel. He gets some 450s, rating, price diff of 550, that are identical (except) badge, rating and a technical thickness in the frame you can't see.

  • @carl.44magnum51
    @carl.44magnum51 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for the information! Very good discussion.

  • @chadmark88
    @chadmark88 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great information . . I looked back at some of your other videos to see if I could find out what brand of wheels are on your white truck in this video. I didn't think they were factory, since I had never seen them before. I'm thinking about buying a 5th wheel RV with a GVWR of 15,000 lbs, Hitch Weight of 2,530 lbs and a dry weight of 12,243 lbs - in your opinion, what would you recommend as a truck to pull it safely ? The RV I'm looking at looks very much like the Cougar in this video. Also, would it benefit me at all to have a dually with this RV ? THANKS for making this informative video. ( I'm going to have to look at some of your others, now )

    • @saltytrips
      @saltytrips  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@chadmark88 pretty much covered this at the end of the video, definitely an F350 SRW with atleast a 4,000 lb payload, a dually would definitely give you a better feeling of stability but not a necessity. I don’t care for DRW. Hitch weight of 2,500 was unloaded, it could get up to 3,000 with a loaded trailer.

    • @chadmark88
      @chadmark88 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@saltytrips Thanks for the information - my main question was about the wheels - LOL If they came with the truck, then you probably don't know who makes them.

    • @saltytrips
      @saltytrips  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ yes they where oem, other than the chrome I really likes the way they looked.

    • @chadmark88
      @chadmark88 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@saltytrips They would look good in an aluminum look, too. THANKS for the info.

  • @Snowman119
    @Snowman119 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ordered a F350 in May and it’s on its way. It was $600 more to get the F350 over the 250. No brainer.

  • @lobbyrobby
    @lobbyrobby 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I want a f250 7.3 with 3.73 gearing. Preferably a 23. However the prices are nuts for these things.

    • @saltytrips
      @saltytrips  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Prices are definitely ridiculous

    • @WontonRanger
      @WontonRanger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why the 3.73?

  • @davesauerzopf6980
    @davesauerzopf6980 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great comparison. I just bought a Chevy 2500 High Country with the Duramax Diesel. Chevy offers an NHT package for the 2500 that basically gives you the 1 ton equipment. 1 ton springs, rear, axle, shocks, and frame. I opted to get this package for 2 reasons. 1 - I gain extra capacity and 2 - I save a lot on registration. PA is very pricey when you go from 3/4 ton to 1 ton. I have the same exact trailer as you and I am sure I have more than enough to tow it.

    • @saltytrips
      @saltytrips  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Whats the payload on that 2500 diesel?

    • @davesauerzopf6980
      @davesauerzopf6980 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@saltytrips 21,600 / 9,798 That is what it shows on the Website with the NHT. I get it next week and I can get an exact weight from the door sticker for you.

    • @davesauerzopf6980
      @davesauerzopf6980 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I went with the High Country only because the dealer gave me a price that I could not turn down. I currently have a Ford but, wanted something new since we are planning to travel a lot. The difference between ordering one and getting this one was minimal. We are retired and spending the kids inheritance money! lol

    • @saltytrips
      @saltytrips  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@davesauerzopf6980 enjoy it, its all about making memories 👍

  • @terrellscaife2411
    @terrellscaife2411 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I truly appreciate your research

  • @Zzus321
    @Zzus321 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How's the ride quality when not towing?

  • @gamerdan2310
    @gamerdan2310 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    So a gas engine setup weighs less than a diesel engine setup? And that'll affect payload/towing capabilities. Never thought of that...thanks for the insight.

    • @ms.annthrope415
      @ms.annthrope415 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thr 6.7 diesel engine weight approx 925 pounds while the gas weights maybe 600 pounds depending in size of engine. To compare, thr Ram Cummins 6.7 weights about 1,200 pounds.

  • @emanuelmagda5855
    @emanuelmagda5855 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great review

  • @shootstraight68
    @shootstraight68 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    More bang for the buck with a 350. Better resale and the heavier build means better longevity. Maintenance costs are pretty much the same, cost of ownership in general is similar. To me the 350 is just a smarter buy. I’ve had both.

  • @aaronphillips2728
    @aaronphillips2728 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How fast do you tow? What about trailer sway. Passing semis, strong winds? Steep mountain passes?? Iv got a pull behind toy hauler its only 22ft and its sketch in windy days

    • @Halfdead211
      @Halfdead211 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You answered your own question…TOW BEHIND …if you want to get rid of the sway go 5th wheel

  • @patriot8087
    @patriot8087 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for pointing out all the delemas in towing with a F250 or F350, or 3/4 or4 one ton truck.

  • @bparkinson1234
    @bparkinson1234 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video. I have a 23 250 7.3. Pull 10k even high altitudes here in co. I also have plow and camper package which has helper spring and rear sway bar. The 350 rides allot rougher. Get the 250 with plow and camper package. Take care

    • @saltytrips
      @saltytrips  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      F350 will still have higher GVWR rating which means more payload capacity. Trading in my F250 for another F250 would be pretty much pointless.

    • @itiswhatitis2008xlt
      @itiswhatitis2008xlt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What is camper pack. Better leaf springs?

    • @saltytrips
      @saltytrips  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@itiswhatitis2008xlt camper pack just mean you get an over load spring and rear sway bar.

    • @bparkinson1234
      @bparkinson1234 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@itiswhatitis2008xlt plow and camper package has heavier springs in front and helper spring and sway bar in rear. Also I have 2 inch receiver in front end bumper

  • @fobtacticalindustries2754
    @fobtacticalindustries2754 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The diesel engine is the way to go if you’re even considering towing at your max GCWR. The additional weight is more than made up for in torque and efficiency under load. The bad part is the EPA BS and maintenance costs. I stopped buying gas 3/4 and 1 tons all together and have 3 diesel trucks; 2 1 tons and 1 3/4 ton.

  • @arizonalifestylechannel2186
    @arizonalifestylechannel2186 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I took delivery of my F450 in Oct 2022, I ordered it it took 9 months.
    It's a bit of overkill but Man it pulls our Cyclone Toy Hauler like a dream. PayLoad is an under rated 4800lbs , It came with a 30,000 hitch option and the 5th wheel prep package standard .
    IMHO if your gonna pull an RV Trailer, Get a 5th wheel (pulls a lot better ) and Minimum an F350 powerstroke and consider Air lift to Keep you Level. Or just get the tighter turning F450 and call it a day.

    • @Utubeisazzho
      @Utubeisazzho 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      350 dually payload 7.k

  • @TexasRed167
    @TexasRed167 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My 2023 F350 super duty king ranch is the best truck I ever drove. Diesel 6.7 turbo. Hauls ass😂❤❤❤❤

  • @bloopbloop0000
    @bloopbloop0000 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this information

  • @Mcknido_
    @Mcknido_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I am building a truck camper and going to upgrade suspension to something more off road from Carli than the need to tow or haul a heavy load. Should I go with 250 since changing suspension anyway?

    • @saltytrips
      @saltytrips  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Mcknido_ i would buy the truck that is rated for the weight you want to carry.

  • @johngray5800
    @johngray5800 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They biggest thing between the f250-f550 is the weighmasters on the highways. They will all tow whatever you hook up to them but how legal is it depending on the weight and the gvwr

  • @erneumann3136
    @erneumann3136 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are the frames the same? Good video.

    • @saltytrips
      @saltytrips  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@erneumann3136 yes

  • @ProxJayy
    @ProxJayy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just want a diesel to hold more boost then gasoline trucks😭

  • @JB.Olsen7
    @JB.Olsen7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not a whole lot of videos on this, thank you! I’d say for the little extra it costs (2-3k) with the 7.3 the F350 is worth it. Not a huge difference, but it’s there if you need it.

    • @bigp6071
      @bigp6071 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      350 with the Godzilla will be my next truck! I pull with a 150 5.0 currently. 9k tow capacity, 2k payload.

  • @explor360
    @explor360 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I believe that starting in 2017 the transmission is different as well.

  • @John-bx8km
    @John-bx8km 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My F250 has a payload at 3470lbs. The newer pickups with the same options as mine have a much higher payload capacity. Mine is a 2017 F250 XL super cab with a 6.2 and cloth seats. I prefer not having all the bells and whistles...just enough to make my pickup comfortable. I have seen the new 6.8 gas with a long bed ext cab with 4500lbs payload package. Not a dually or diesel. Of coarse...if you have the Lariat or fancier models...the weight will decrease with those packages.

    • @saltytrips
      @saltytrips  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@John-bx8km yep, all depends on GVWR and how much options you have added on to add weight

  • @AirborneSapper82
    @AirborneSapper82 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video. Thank you. 🙏

  • @jollykitt
    @jollykitt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Ohio you need DoT number for any vehicle that has GVWR over 10001 and need a CDL A id your vehicle is over 10001 GVWR and towing a trailer with a combined weight over 26k. For that reason Ill be getting an F250 for my landscaping company. Less headaches and hussles.

  • @SVT-gj8tp
    @SVT-gj8tp 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You should weigh your combo. You said you were close to your max payload, I’d be more concerned about exceeding your rear axle rating. I believe the axle rating doesn’t change from gas vs diesel. But F-250 to 350 they do.

    • @saltytrips
      @saltytrips  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      F350 GAWR in the rear is about 1,100 lbs more than the F250.

    • @dadlife5886
      @dadlife5886 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Depends on the year. Up until 2017 the F250 and F350SRW shared the same axles, the Sterling 10.5. Post 2017 the F350SRW now has the Dana M-275 which you can get in the F250 with the "max tow package". If not you still get the tried and true Sterling 10.5 which is used in F350s up until 2017.

  • @williamanthony5021
    @williamanthony5021 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video thansk

  • @phillipgarrow2297
    @phillipgarrow2297 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's about 1k more for the 250 that's why I went with the F350 4wd

  • @sight-seer
    @sight-seer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a '24 F250 with the 7.3L gas and 4.30 rear axle. The rating for the rear axle is the same as the one shown in your video @ 6430 lbs, but the front axle is rated at 4800 lbs, increasing the overall payload capacity to 3439 lbs. It has 10500 overall GVWR. But, to your point, even with the larger diameter axle from the F350 that you get by going to the 4.30 gearing, Ford does not increase the rear axle carrying capacity, but rather the front axle. If I remember correctly, going to the 4.30 axle added the > 10000 lbs GVWR feature, which gets you to 10500 GVWR. You would think the larger axle would increase the rear axle capacity, but it's obvious that a lot of this is marketing and positioning. They could easily do away with the F250 and/or F350 and combine them given how close they are in ratings these days, but with all the various state laws and the market pricing, etc they keep the F250 to fill that 'almost-there' niche I guess.

    • @saltytrips
      @saltytrips  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Their are SRW F350 that have over 7,000lb rear axles rating, but its not because the axle is bigger its the spring rating. Same as yours, your front axles doesn’t increase the GVWR, it the front spring rating that does. Your front axles is the same Dana 60 thats in all Super Duties. That didnt change. Same goes with the rear axles, GVWR is determined by axles. The Sterling 10.5 is rated for 9,000 lbs. , pretty much just depends on spring ratings for GVWR when it comes to SD, sometimes there are other mitigating factors such as wheel and tire ratings but that what it pretty much boils down too.

    • @Braggdad212
      @Braggdad212 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@saltytripsyour video explains what so many people overlook when buying super duty trucks. It’s the configuration that heavily dictates how much of your truck’s potential you can actually use

  • @joeatkinsoniii7789
    @joeatkinsoniii7789 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tremor has a light weight suspension up front…4800# I believe.

    • @saltytrips
      @saltytrips  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joeatkinsoniii7789 the only difference the front spring have is wether or not its a gas engine, diesel, or heavy duty package like snow plow

  • @reloadnorth7722
    @reloadnorth7722 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Every comparison video is Ford. Why not Ram or GM/Chevy. The other 2 auto makers create the same classes of vehicles, or do they not have as much reliability or tow capacities as Ford? I don't own any of these large trucks, just wondering.

    • @saltytrips
      @saltytrips  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@reloadnorth7722 pretty much the same story with all the manufacturers, just a few different nuances

    • @Kamkazi-gc5be
      @Kamkazi-gc5be 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ford all day 💪

    • @reloadnorth7722
      @reloadnorth7722 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Kamkazi-gc5be Yep.

  • @Utubeisazzho
    @Utubeisazzho 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cdl go diesel. Non cdl gas.

  • @coffee0076
    @coffee0076 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1 ton is 2000 pounds per US Short ton standard which equivalent to 907.029 kg
    3/4 ton is 1500 pounds per US Short ton standard which equivalent to 680.27 kg
    My mind keep mixing up 1 Ton = 1000 pounds for some weirdo reason. 1 Metric Ton is equal 2204 lbs which equal to 1000 kg, speaking metric uses in various countries.

  • @kylewalsh9508
    @kylewalsh9508 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so it sounds like i need to trade my 21 250 xlt for a diesel tremor

    • @capinuck2648
      @capinuck2648 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂😂

  • @shearenergy8203
    @shearenergy8203 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The trimmer F250 has a softer spring load and a regular F250 XLT depending on the cab of a basic XL model my cost in 2023 who is 63,000$ 6.7 Hp I made the order in November and received it in April 1923 I can tell you I have a truck camper on top of it and I have seen an XLT 250 with the same truck camper that has to have airbags on the back and it’s a totally different truck and towing handling and payload

    • @saltytrips
      @saltytrips  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤦‍♂️

  • @dundonrl
    @dundonrl 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about a F-250 that's identical to a F-350, except the fender badge and door stickers. The Super Duty Tremor package has the F-250 using the same everything that the F-350 has, it's just rated less!

    • @rich7447
      @rich7447 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why opt for the lower rating at that point? Rating determines if you are legal or not.

    • @dundonrl
      @dundonrl 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rich7447 I wanted the engine, every other Tremor I could find was a diesel!

    • @ricardocheing4304
      @ricardocheing4304 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​@@dundonrlYou prefer a 7.3L over a 6.7L HO?

    • @dundonrl
      @dundonrl 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ricardocheing4304 Yes, modern emissions on diesel engines SUCK, especially when it's well below zero!

  • @btl4220
    @btl4220 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tremor suspension (springs&shocks) is softer for off-roading so payload is less

    • @saltytrips
      @saltytrips  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Incorrect, part numbers are exactly the same for the F250 Tremor and an F350 springs. Look up the part numbers

  • @6by6by6
    @6by6by6 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The price for a 3/4 ton is the same as the one ton.. people are stupid..

  • @jimedwards2511
    @jimedwards2511 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Payload is a regulatory rating. Don't you think its odd until recently all 3/4 tons had a 10000 GCWR? RAWR is what you need to be concerned with. I base everything I can haul/tow on the RAWR, not payload rating.

  • @mckinnellmorton1218
    @mckinnellmorton1218 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Disimilar ?
    A good day to me is 1 where I learn a word in a disimilar language
    Now I thank you and leave with a ton of imfo thang u bro
    Good thing I have a three 50

  • @danielgodfrey4415
    @danielgodfrey4415 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ford does heavy towing packages.
    You'll pay an extra $10k to basically turn your f250 into a f350.

  • @dvt3802
    @dvt3802 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To some of you out there, I feel sorry for you that can't think for yourself and listen to a friggen salesperson. WE don't pay any more for the same basic 350 than the 250s, and NO we don't get a break even switched to a dealer 40 miles away versus 3, cuz a 450 was 18 months from order date(was told it would be 3) and had to get one elsewhere for a contract coming up. Quit believing everything on the internet and start thinking. Oh we don't get any diesels any more, when you crunch real numbers they are not cheaper. We don't ever trade, sell every 3-4 years depending on mileage, been having more problems with the DPF, DEF, etc, to much down time.

  • @shearenergy8203
    @shearenergy8203 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The F250 and F3 50 are totally two different animals
    I think personally you would’ve been off with an F150

    • @saltytrips
      @saltytrips  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🤣😂 literally the only difference is the rear spring packs, look up the part numbers, everything else is exactly the same 🤦‍♂️

    • @herb7877
      @herb7877 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@saltytrips you are 100% correct. Over the last 40+ years of owning Ford trucks, I can say the only difference in the last 10 years is the rear overload. I believe the 2015 or 2016 F350 may have had a ever so slight different front differential on the 4x4 part number; but for at least the last 6-+ years they are part for part exactly the same except the 1 overload leaf spring & the badging (F250 or F350). The F250 Tremor does have the F350 rear leaf pack. I owned a 2015 and now a 2021F350 7.3l.

  • @mfstr
    @mfstr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    IMO, there is no reason to make a f250-2500, same drivetrain, same size, same parking issues, better payload in the f350-3500. done! get the f350-3500.