Lmao. Every he says can be found in 5min on Google. What's the real mpg difference?! What's the real ride quality difference. What's a,real situation that u must have the 450 tighter turn radius?
I think if you're going dually just get the 450. F350 SRWs have a really nice balance of payload and ride comfort. If you definitely don't want an F450 but definitely do want a dually, I feel like GM and Ram have Ford beat in that niche. But then Ford one ups them with the F450.
Ya,but 450 has serious drawbacks. NOBODY wants to be bounced to death. 450 ride quality is a concern and something u deal with every time u drive the truck. U don't need the better turn radius all the time.
I just got a 2024 F350 platinum dually, HO powerstroke, and it has a sunroof. Absolutely love it. I thought about an F450, but I wanted the payload, the TPMS, and this has to be my daily. And as a daily, it’s been amazing. Plus, I got it for 9k off MSRP; no dealer is ever going to discount an F450 that much. My door sticker payload, BTW, is 5359 lbs.
Payload is same for each truck. 450 is just derated to stay below the legal limit of 14k gvwr... that's just a paper limit. Put the same load in bed and they squat the same... aka they have same actual payload capacity.
Just went through this same comparison and ended up getting a 2024 F-350 dually Platinum with the HO and 3.55 gears. Absolutely love the truck! Ride is very comfortable, payload is greater than the F450, highway driving is great too. I couldn’t imagine having the 4.30 for unloaded daily driving. I tow a 21k lbs Brinkley G3250 and the truck rides comfortably in 10th gear at 65mph. Having a better turn radius would be nice as well as the aggressive looking front fenders but other than those two things I would still choose the F-350 for my type of use.
Did u test drive the 450 and 350? I am curious about the ride quality difference! Several tubers say the 2024 450 ride is way better than it was 4 yrs ago in the previous generation... Roads r horrible in the midwest. So I cant have my family riding in a rougher truck... I hate the turning of 350 vs my rams but getting tossed around in a 450 doesn't sound fun either
Ya but what about ride quality? My wife and kids bitch enough now. I dont want to get a truck with worse ride quality just to get better turning radius
Good stuff, I'd lean 450 but I agree no tire monitoring system does suck for someone that goes long distances and likes to see when you start losing air.
It is always the GVWR that sets the payload. Take a Ram 1500 for example. Fully loaded ones have payload of +/- 1000 lbs because of the 7100 lbs GVWR but you can put well over that and still be confortable and safe.
Ofcourse 14k limit is just the pathetic govt limit for a non commercial vehicle. Has nothing to do with the real capacity of the truck. The added weight of 450 is all unsprung weight... Put 5k lbs in bed and both trucks squat the same...
I would go the F450 all day everyday and twice on sunday. Yes you lose alittle payload but you get 19.5s wheels and tires bigger brakes for more stopping power. The tires should last around 100k miles so in the long run the F450 is probably cheaper to own! Also the turning radius is great
U ever actually driven either of these? Nobody would ever buy a 450 without experiencing the harsher ride. My wife has 36 DD. No way would she put up with a more rough ride. Changing tires on 450 to soften ride is 8k because u have to get new rims also. He'll of a costly mistake if u just buy a truck because u feel like it
F350 to haul stuff in the bed, F450 to haul stuff on a trailer. F450 is 8ft bed and 19.5" rims and turns better than my wifes ranger. I saved you 14 minutes.
It's just on paper. That 450 or 350 dually will squat waaaay less with 5k in bed vs your truck. Extra 2 wheels add 250 lbs but that's unsprung weight... same as bigger axles, heavier frame. On paper those hurt payload. In real life they don't. The 14k gcwr is just to make govt happy. It's not worth the paper it's written on
pluses and minuses to both. I do a fair bit of hauling and one of my trailers requires a dually. I went with the 350 because of the 3.55 gears and increased payload. I didn't care about the wheels and tires because the first thing I do is change those out
F450 rides and drives like a truck, f450 does not, it rides like a f250. Tow 30k plus get a f450, under 30k then get a f350. Axle is to low for a daily driver, get an f350 with 355 axle. I own both. Towing an rv I take the f350, machinery I use the f450
I got my 2024 King Ranch F450 and it wasn't even option for TPMS , I tried turning it on with FORscan, but still nothing. (Yes, my tires have the sensors) I wonder if I can buy the parts and add it
450 all day long! The steering capabilities of the 450 are insane and it maneuvers way better in tight city driving and parking lots! Also the braking is noticeably better in the 450! Both are great trucks but the F450 is unmatched in my opinion!
I owned a 18 f450 dually limited, loved it but sold it and got a f350 dually kingranch rapid red HO. I dont haul a trailer all the time and my f450 was an overkill especially insurance is commercial and no one wants to service it cuz its a f450. I got an f350 dually as it suits my purpose better especially the 4.10 gearing is better not always having a trailer behind. F450 is for guys always hauling a trailer.
Can you do a review on the 2024 Chevy 1500 3.0 diesel with max tow package.I’m trying to see if I can get away with a 1500 for towing.I currently have a 22 ram Cummins but it’s a bad daily driver. I tow about 12-13k lbs. or maybe even a gasser . It would be great if you can give your opinion. TIA
I had a 23 gmc crew cab with max trailering 3.0 and I towed my dump trailer with cargo it weight 10-12k easy everytime and it actually towed it pretty well but did sag a lot and I ended up getting a 24 gmc 3500 srw instead
@@JB-ej8zy excellent! I appreciate you taking the time to give your opinion. Unfortunately I agree I kinda wanted a new truck to try out. The Cummins has been amazing with towing and fuel mileage. I get 27mpg when I drive interstate 95 @ 70mph UNLOADED. That still amazes me that an HD can do that. Thanks again.
@craigwilliams1073 Not certain what you're cackling about (are you related to kumswalla??)....the 450 in all equal configurations has a lower payload....not to mention a much lower maximum payload. None of that mattered to me, still bought a 450 for the other objective advantages..
@craigwilliams1073 But it doesn't depend on how you build the trucks....both the DRW 350 and the 450 have the exact 14,000 GVWR The 350 with the same cab and powertrain will always be a few hundred pounds lighter. ...which means a higher payload And you cannot get the gas motor in a 450....which widens the gap even further . If you need to "carry"...the 350 has better numbers on paper. So why get a 450?? Tighter turning radius is a legit advantage. The bigger brakes Thicker rear axles 19.5" G rated tires...
Man. The headlights are good aweful. Im sorry but damn. Theres no front end. Its all headlights. I dont think the style of the headlights are ugly. They are just gigantic. Looks like a damn big ass bug coming down the road.
agree, there is no styling on new Fords, poor design choice...almost like they couldnt decide on anything and said screw it.....last gen looked better would love to have the Fords seats tho in my GMC
F350s have a better turning radius than gmc and dodge counter parts… it goes 450/350 Ram 3500 chevrolet 3500… Its a extremely stupid missrepresentation to say the ford f350 has the worst turning radius of any truck. It is almost half of the gm 3500s… literally.
That's complete bs. Ford has the worst turning radius of all 3 brands! Why do u think they created the 450 pickup?! Rv people usually have zero hauling experience... put them in the 350 with horrible turning and there are all kinds of issues. That's why 80% of 450 sales r to rv owners
The 450 4.30 axle kills mpg... the 450 rides worse. 350 turning radius is worst in industry. So u turning well or ride well. Can't have both. Pathetic for 100k trucks.
These videos should be winning trophies for outstanding journalism.
Lmao. Every he says can be found in 5min on Google. What's the real mpg difference?! What's the real ride quality difference. What's a,real situation that u must have the 450 tighter turn radius?
I think if you're going dually just get the 450.
F350 SRWs have a really nice balance of payload and ride comfort. If you definitely don't want an F450 but definitely do want a dually, I feel like GM and Ram have Ford beat in that niche.
But then Ford one ups them with the F450.
Ya,but 450 has serious drawbacks. NOBODY wants to be bounced to death. 450 ride quality is a concern and something u deal with every time u drive the truck. U don't need the better turn radius all the time.
I just got a 2024 F350 platinum dually, HO powerstroke, and it has a sunroof. Absolutely love it. I thought about an F450, but I wanted the payload, the TPMS, and this has to be my daily. And as a daily, it’s been amazing. Plus, I got it for 9k off MSRP; no dealer is ever going to discount an F450 that much. My door sticker payload, BTW, is 5359 lbs.
Payload is same for each truck. 450 is just derated to stay below the legal limit of 14k gvwr... that's just a paper limit.
Put the same load in bed and they squat the same... aka they have same actual payload capacity.
Just went through this same comparison and ended up getting a 2024 F-350 dually Platinum with the HO and 3.55 gears. Absolutely love the truck! Ride is very comfortable, payload is greater than the F450, highway driving is great too. I couldn’t imagine having the 4.30 for unloaded daily driving. I tow a 21k lbs Brinkley G3250 and the truck rides comfortably in 10th gear at 65mph. Having a better turn radius would be nice as well as the aggressive looking front fenders but other than those two things I would still choose the F-350 for my type of use.
Did u test drive the 450 and 350? I am curious about the ride quality difference! Several tubers say the 2024 450 ride is way better than it was 4 yrs ago in the previous generation...
Roads r horrible in the midwest. So I cant have my family riding in a rougher truck...
I hate the turning of 350 vs my rams but getting tossed around in a 450 doesn't sound fun either
I have a 2024 F450… would never get the 350 for one reason and one reason only, turning radius!! My F450 turns like on a dime 😎
Ya but what about ride quality? My wife and kids bitch enough now. I dont want to get a truck with worse ride quality just to get better turning radius
F450 regular cab. That's my next truck. I'm going to kelderman the heck out of it.
Nice job 🇺🇸
Good stuff, I'd lean 450 but I agree no tire monitoring system does suck for someone that goes long distances and likes to see when you start losing air.
it can be activated in forscan and the sensors installed
@@samdonovan4017 thx didn’t know that
Just curious if the 450 payload number is derated because of the 14,000 GVWR and in reality the truck can easily have a payload above the 350.
It is always the GVWR that sets the payload. Take a Ram 1500 for example. Fully loaded ones have payload of +/- 1000 lbs because of the 7100 lbs GVWR but you can put well over that and still be confortable and safe.
yeah you are right. But the 350 drw is also derated
Ofcourse 14k limit is just the pathetic govt limit for a non commercial vehicle. Has nothing to do with the real capacity of the truck.
The added weight of 450 is all unsprung weight...
Put 5k lbs in bed and both trucks squat the same...
I see jb reviews ordering a F550, and putting a bed on it to have the best of everything.
Except for the derated PSD...
I enjoyed the information great Video!
The wide track front end on the F450 is amazing. I never should have gotten rid of my F450...
Great video 👍
The ton and a half trucks we have made into ambulances have a lot of issues with the front suspension and chew up tires like crazy
JB bringing the Heat! 450 all day!
You can change the rims out for Alcoa rims. Save weight and be able to rotate the tires.
I would go the F450 all day everyday and twice on sunday.
Yes you lose alittle payload but you get 19.5s wheels and tires bigger brakes for more stopping power. The tires should last around 100k miles so in the long run the F450 is probably cheaper to own!
Also the turning radius is great
Agreed!
U ever actually driven either of these? Nobody would ever buy a 450 without experiencing the harsher ride. My wife has 36 DD. No way would she put up with a more rough ride. Changing tires on 450 to soften ride is 8k because u have to get new rims also. He'll of a costly mistake if u just buy a truck because u feel like it
Great video
F350 to haul stuff in the bed, F450 to haul stuff on a trailer. F450 is 8ft bed and 19.5" rims and turns better than my wifes ranger. I saved you 14 minutes.
Crazy to think my 2022 f350 has a 4K payload compared to that 4700 on the f450. Mine is a srw gas engine.
It's just on paper. That 450 or 350 dually will squat waaaay less with 5k in bed vs your truck. Extra 2 wheels add 250 lbs but that's unsprung weight... same as bigger axles, heavier frame. On paper those hurt payload. In real life they don't. The 14k gcwr is just to make govt happy. It's not worth the paper it's written on
Great great great video thank you thank you thank you
Can you explain what do you mean if we need the payload?
pluses and minuses to both. I do a fair bit of hauling and one of my trailers requires a dually. I went with the 350 because of the 3.55 gears and increased payload. I didn't care about the wheels and tires because the first thing I do is change those out
What tires do u like to use? What mpg do u get unloaded and loaded? Where u from? Thanks.
They are older chassis than these but both of our 450s have a LOT of problems with the front ends
F450 rides and drives like a truck, f450 does not, it rides like a f250.
Tow 30k plus get a f450, under 30k then get a f350.
Axle is to low for a daily driver, get an f350 with 355 axle.
I own both. Towing an rv I take the f350, machinery I use the f450
What year are your trucks? Ride quality difference between 350 and 450?
I got my 2024 King Ranch F450 and it wasn't even option for TPMS , I tried turning it on with FORscan, but still nothing. (Yes, my tires have the sensors) I wonder if I can buy the parts and add it
Sttange, my new work truck is a 2024 F-600 and has TPMS.
450 all day long! The steering capabilities of the 450 are insane and it maneuvers way better in tight city driving and parking lots! Also the braking is noticeably better in the 450! Both are great trucks but the F450 is unmatched in my opinion!
Taxes are different also
I owned a 18 f450 dually limited, loved it but sold it and got a f350 dually kingranch rapid red HO. I dont haul a trailer all the time and my f450 was an overkill especially insurance is commercial and no one wants to service it cuz its a f450. I got an f350 dually as it suits my purpose better especially the 4.10 gearing is better not always having a trailer behind. F450 is for guys always hauling a trailer.
Both my 2020 and 2024 f-450 have 4:10 gearing
I would disagree. Ford's website only allows 4.30 for 450. Use to be 430 or 4.88. Now with 10 spd it's only 4.30
@ you can disagree all you want. It’s in the paperwork for the truck. It was even on the window sticker as 410 gearing
F450 🔥
Wider front axle on f450
2025 F450 doesn’t have painted flares on any trim level.
Are you 100 percent sure
XLT and up have the painted flares
@@skeim5620 yes
@@arizonalifestylechannel2186 not for 2025
If you’re worried about fuel mileage you should not be looking at a dual rear wheel truck.
G tires @ 110 psi.....rides like a brick I bet
if its a Tow pig only I can see the desire, for DD and hauling a 350 will be more than enough
The funny part is seen a f350 dually platinum with over 5k of payload but it didn’t have a gooseneck 🥲
Can you do a review on the 2024 Chevy 1500 3.0 diesel with max tow package.I’m trying to see if I can get away with a 1500 for towing.I currently have a 22 ram Cummins but it’s a bad daily driver. I tow about 12-13k lbs. or maybe even a gasser . It would be great if you can give your opinion. TIA
I had a 23 gmc crew cab with max trailering 3.0 and I towed my dump trailer with cargo it weight 10-12k easy everytime and it actually towed it pretty well but did sag a lot and I ended up getting a 24 gmc 3500 srw instead
And tbh if you are towing at near max I think your better off with atleast a 2500. I went 3500 cause the pricing was minimal.
@@JB-ej8zy excellent! I appreciate you taking the time to give your opinion. Unfortunately I agree I kinda wanted a new truck to try out. The Cummins has been amazing with towing and fuel mileage. I get 27mpg when I drive interstate 95 @ 70mph UNLOADED. That still amazes me that an HD can do that. Thanks again.
@Frank-rg2bn yea no problem one thing I forgot is the 3.0 towing drinks a lot of def when towing but it gets great mileage when not towing
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Sold on f450
Y not been waiting for 2024 for months 450.just order 25. See how this goes
People have talked themselves into needing 450s now?
Gas engines are far more reliable as far as emissions, perfect for pulling a camper. Nobody wants steel wheels, they crack, rust, and theyre heavy.
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350 is the best for towing and the 450 is the better for carrying!
Your math isn't mathing...
@@johnpeters9793 hahahahahhaha
@craigwilliams1073
Not certain what you're cackling about (are you related to kumswalla??)....the 450 in all equal configurations has a lower payload....not to mention a much lower maximum payload.
None of that mattered to me, still bought a 450 for the other objective advantages..
@johnpeters9793 I know. It all depends on how you build the trucks. I love pickups, just wish the prices would go back down.
@craigwilliams1073
But it doesn't depend on how you build the trucks....both the DRW 350 and the 450 have the exact 14,000 GVWR
The 350 with the same cab and powertrain will always be a few hundred pounds lighter. ...which means a higher payload
And you cannot get the gas motor in a 450....which widens the gap even further .
If you need to "carry"...the 350 has better numbers on paper.
So why get a 450??
Tighter turning radius is a legit advantage.
The bigger brakes
Thicker rear axles
19.5" G rated tires...
Id take the 450
Get the 450. Its the King of the Road
Man. The headlights are good aweful. Im sorry but damn. Theres no front end. Its all headlights. I dont think the style of the headlights are ugly. They are just gigantic. Looks like a damn big ass bug coming down the road.
X2
agree, there is no styling on new Fords, poor design choice...almost like they couldnt decide on anything and said screw it.....last gen looked better
would love to have the Fords seats tho in my GMC
@@jf8564 saved money on aluminum I guess
F350s have a better turning radius than gmc and dodge counter parts… it goes 450/350 Ram 3500 chevrolet 3500…
Its a extremely stupid missrepresentation to say the ford f350 has the worst turning radius of any truck. It is almost half of the gm 3500s… literally.
That's complete bs. Ford has the worst turning radius of all 3 brands! Why do u think they created the 450 pickup?! Rv people usually have zero hauling experience... put them in the 350 with horrible turning and there are all kinds of issues. That's why 80% of 450 sales r to rv owners
The 450 4.30 axle kills mpg... the 450 rides worse.
350 turning radius is worst in industry. So u turning well or ride well. Can't have both.
Pathetic for 100k trucks.
Nice trucks. 2nd mortgage payment trucks
depends, for some they arent
@@kirkdunn1379 if u have a need for them. Then yes. If not. It's overkill.