A battery and a capacitor are two entirely different things. In theory a capacitor should not need replacement just recharging. A battery will die over time. Decide which is which please!
Yes, I was just trying to over simplify it by using common terms, and I said all three items (capacitor, cell, battery) to cover all bases. This is technically a rechargeable cell. As you said, batteries die and rechargeable cells lose their ability to hold or effectively disperse power vs their new state. But if I said “replace your battery.” one might purchase a standard watch battery, since similar part numbers are printed on them, and ruin their watch. I felt it was important to draw attention to the function of this particular part so that viewers would not miss the importance of replacing this cell with an OEM equivalent, NOT a standard watch battery. Thanks for also drawing attention to it!
Jus got a few of em in the mail and they were in limp mode. Gave em some light and now they're coming alive.. Thank you for the wealth of knowledge. Thanks to you I believe Ill install the batteries myself when the time comes
I just bought a Citizen Eco-Drive BJ9130-05E on eBay and it arrived with the dreaded 2 second tick. I assumed it had probably been in a draw or a box for a while so just needed charging but after a few days on the windowsill, it still wouldn’t hold a charge. I googled it and realised I needed to change the capacitor. I then found this video on TH-cam and you made the whole process simple with your excellent and easy to follow demonstration. Thanks to you I have a working Eco-Drive! Thank you!
You are incredible. Do you know you're the only person on TH-cam who gave such incredibly detailed instructions? I thought I'd received a bad battery, but I had done just about everything you stated NOT to do while trying to figure out just HOW to put this battery in to my eco watch. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! I'm going to place my battery in properly this time and, if it doesn't work, I'll know why and order a new one. That one will be going in just as you instructed and I'm sure will work. Take care and be safe. We need people like you in the world.🤗❤️
Thanks for the praise. I'm just someone who was faced with the same issue, though. But I did notice there wasn't a good video, so tried to fill the void. If you continue to have issues after replacement, don't rule out that the watch may need servicing. It's a beauty that these cells last so long, but it also means that it's put in years of service. Another reason I mention the part about the caseback gasket, too. Good luck!
Thank you, I now know which battery to order! Purchased my watch over 25 years ago for myself for Mother's Day, when I was a single mother! I've now been married 18 years & my husband had it fixed for me (I kept it in my sock drawer, when it stopped working) & wrapped in a beautiful watch box!
Before you replace the capacitor try putting an adjustable LED LAmp above the watch for a few days and see if it helps. It helped me to charge my Citizen Skyhawk that had not seen light for years. I left an LED Lamp directly above the watch (Maybe an inch above the watch) for 2 days over the weekend at work and when i got back on Monday it was fully charged and held the charge as if it was brand new.
Absolutely! I tried to convey that, especially in the video description. Most people don't realize it takes DAYS, like you mentioned, to recover from a completely dead state. However, if your watch is 12+ years old, and that doesn't work, then it may be time to replace the capacitor/cell/battery.
Thanks for your video. I had a hard time only because I didn't have any gloves to position the battery when getting it in place. Once I finally got it in, I turned the watch over. Nothing happened but as soon as I got it where bright sunlight hit the dial it started right up. I have it on a window sill right now to get it all charged up. This is a Citizen Garrison Watch I got off Ebay from a seller I used before. It wasn't charging like my other Citizens and when contacted the seller said they had been in storage for a long time. Citizen told me and him that it would take 1 to 2 months for it to fully charge after being in storage that long. Thats way tooooo long. So I ordered a new capacitor off Amazon and thanks to your video its now charging so I can use it. Thanks again.
Awesome! I LOVE to hear stories like this. Tip: the window sill is great (south facing?) but glass and screens have filters. Direct sunlight outside is the strongest/quickest charge. Check the description for a link to Citizen’s suggested charge times by model/movement. Glad you brought it back to life!
People in the thread, try pulling out the crown & pushing it back in. Sometimes this works as it resets the second increments after/while charging. I purchased a Citizen Skyhawk from Amazon back in 2011. It’s 2024 today & my original capacitor/battery still works fine to this day. This watch has been in & out of rotation for months/years at a time & gets stuck in a drawer at times. I just put it in a window sill & it charges right back up no problems. It ticks in 2-4 sec increments when charging back up. I just pull the crown all the way out & push it back in & it works brand new again no issues.
Thanks, I take a couple watches (G-shock mudmasters) into the jewelry store, for battery replacement. For some reason the tech at the Jewelry store did not work on these watches but they have someone that they send some watches to. The staring price for battery/capacitor replacement was $125. The capacitor and the watch repair kit added up to less than $30 (I will also replace the gasket based on your recommendation). But while my citizen was more expensive it is still kind of a basic watch with no special features and I should be able to replace the batter/capacitor. Your video was very helpful. Thanks for your video. Sorry for all the trolls trying to give you a class on battery vs capacitor. Your video was fine. Order the right part in the first place and you don't have to worry about putting a battery where a capacitor should be. Regardless of what I am working on, I always check my parts across several websites to make sure it is the right one. I like the part about wearing gloves. That is my down fall. I get into the repair and forget to put on the gloves laying next to me.
Yes, it's expensive, but definitely worth it for those that aren't comfortable doing the replacement themselves. I mean, you're going to get another 10 to 15 years out of it!
Great instructions! I followed the instructions from the link. I didn’t need a new battery. The recharging time from zero for my watch is 36-70 hours and direct sunlight outside is best. My 20 year old watch is running again.
Great news! Yes, most people grossly underestimate the time needed from complete stoppage to full charge. And outside is best, if you can do it…windows and screens filter sunlight. Thanks for leaving this comment!
I have a Citizen Eco and after 10 years it was ticking with 2 seconds increments too. I charged the battery by putting it at the kitchen window for two days, but it was still ticking with 2 seconds after that. Pulling out the crown and pushing it back solved the problem! It has been ticking nicely for 3 year years after I did that.
Nice. Your reset worked. Some of us haven't been as lucky, and the battery/capacitor/rechargeable cell needed replacement. You're at 13 years now, so you might be towards the end of life....if it happens again.
@he-mansuncle7661 Depends on what's there. If you see ridges like a coin edge bezel all around the caseback, then a friction ball is your best bet. If you see a little pry ridge/lip on a small section of the caseback near the edge, then it's a snap off/on caseback. Proceed with caution there, as there's a risk of damage to the crystal when trying to put those back on without proper tools. I don't THINK there are Eco-Drives with that type of caseback, though.
Hopefully friction ball, then. The kit I suggested doesn't include one, but they're about $8 on Amazon for a cheapy, and maybe twice that for a Bergeon: amzn.to/3Yvth92
Genius!! Thanks for posting! I've bought two of the 8700 diamond bezel ones gold ones two tone!! The gold one was stolen..hate a thief!! Thank God for insurance!! As well as a receipt!!
..Great video thanks. i have Eco Drives for more than 15 years., time to replace a couple of batteries, did not know i have to use gloves to avoid contamination.
I’d love for you to return and comment here after you’ve replaced one. Report on the ease of the project and ultimate outcome of your results. Yes, finger cots are good, but I just used exam gloves as they were handy. Thanks for watching!
Great video and information, thanks! My Aqualand has been dead for quite some time (it was left in a drawer after a move). With your help, I was able to correctly identify the right battery and ordered it and the tool kit from Amazon. Both came in a few days and I just finished the repair. It's back up and running again. Awesome!
Great success on this video! Congrats. 🎈🎉🎊. Great tutorial. I like the tips re: the wood dowel and oil in your hands. I’ve shorted a movement or two via my stupidity. Expensive lessons.
Thanks! Yes, I guess it was the right video at the right time. @David Schwartz added a great idea of using a plastic baggie between the caseback and the tool, to prevent potential scratching when removing/tightening caseback. I ALWAYS do that now. We’ve all got some uh-oh moments, right?!
Excellent video! I have an Eco that's stopped and doesn't want to restart. I'll try charging outside. If that doesn't work I now know what to do! Many thanks! The cleaning cloths look good, too!
Thanks! You can check your movement’s recharge time on their website. Link in description. Most people underestimate how much light it needs to charge from full kill. Would love for you to let us know your watch’s outcome.
@@WatchWitt Ordered my "battery" from Amazon. Reviews are iffy. The actual product carried both Japan & I believe Taiwan as counties of origin. Got it installed and have been wearing the watch. The little metal tab that keeps the battery in place was difficult but got it off & back on. Thanks again for your video! It was very helpful.
Thx! Now I feel confident about repairing my wife’s 35 yr old Seiko. A234 movement. AND, thx for your note about not touching the capacitor with fingers!
I did this myself on two different 15 year old Eco-Drive Citizens. No problem. My only additional advice is while ordering a basic watch tool kit also order a little container of watchmaker Silicon grease. I always apply a very light coating of Silicone to the case back seal. My only gripe for the process is the expense of the capacitor. I can buy a twelve pack of standard watch batteries for $7. My Citizen Eco-Drive capacitors were $25-30 apiece. It is what it is. I love my Citizen Nighthawk that my son gifted me 15 years ago. While I was working on the Nighthawk I also replaced the scratched mineral crystal with a double domed AR coated sapphire crystal.
Glad I saw this. My Skyhawk AT is 11 years old now and I’ve been thinking about this day coming for my watch. So far so good though. But I feel good about doing it myself when the time comes. I’ll pick up that tool kit too. Great video. Subbed. 👍🏻
Informative and easy to follow instructional video. Good video and why not save a few $$. It is not rocket science to replace an Eco Drive capacitor/battery.
Thanks. I’m plugging away with a lot of future videos in mind. More how-to videos, and of course I’ve got lots of watches on the way! Trying to stay around the $100 mark, but there will obviously be some swings in both directions. Thanks for YOUR support!
Excellent video!! Thank you!! Mine hasn't died yet but now I know how. I don't remover the exact year I bought it but my eyes could see it great then. Now? Not so good... Lol
Bought my Eco-Drive A-T (radio sync) watch ten years ago. I wonder when the capacitor will die. Can’t find the right one (I looked up what an H145 movement needs) under US$32, but I did pay $300 for the watch and of course it will be worth the money to replace it when the time comes. Maybe I’ll get lucky and it’ll be far in the future.
Nice watch! Based only on comments here and my own experience, it seems 12 to 15 years is the range. But that could vary widely from watch to watch, and depending on user habits.
Thanks! Esslinger is a great resource for parts, but determining which gasket you need can be a little tricky. You may end up stocking up on several sizes!
Thanks! It’s fairly easy if you’re comfortable with the tools and process. If not, it’s well worth the price, as expensive as it may seem, to have a professional perform the work. If the watch means anything to you, it would be a shame to ruin it!
Thanks. You should be able to find them on Amazon or eBay. Looks like yours is a little more rare, though. Here it is on Amazon, as an example. 295-7580 Genuine Original Citizen Watch Energy Cell - Battery - Capacitor for Eco-Drive Watch (Same as 295-758) www.amazon.com/dp/B07JKD52XT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_fX9NFbEMYFB1Q
FWIW, Citizen Eco-Drive watches do not have capacitors to store energy. The use rechargeable lithium batteries. One of mine is about 25 years old and still running great on the original battery.
Yes, we've talked about this in the comment thread I've pinned to the top. I used the phrase capacitor/battery/rechargeable cell interchangeably to focus on the part that needs replacement--it's simpler for the explanation, so people can relate. Those terms can mean something different from one person to the next. Wow! Yours is the longest running I've heard of! That's awesome!
Thanks for this video. I'm looking to replace the cell in my Eco-Drive. However, mine doesn't have any notches on the cover. Any ideas on how to remove it?
Hard to say, as there are a few different caseback styles. If you have series of small ridges around the caseback perimeter (almost look like a grip for your fingers to rotate it) then you need a friction ball. Or, if you see a little lip, almost like a screwdriver head, near one of the lugs...that's a snap on/off caseback. You pry/leverage that carefully to remove. But caution with those...they can be extremely difficult to put back ON without the right tools, and you risk damaging your watch...many will shatter their crystal while attempting.
I did a little more research and found out it is a monocoque case GN-4W-UL. Apparently, the bezel needs to be removed and the stem to replace the battery. I would love to see a video on that!
@stevenmonkman1500 Oh, wow, I've never seen a monoblock case from Citizen. Yes, typically you have to remove the crystal and go in from the front! You should be able to find some videos, but specific tools are needed. If you don't have the experience, this one is better off having done by a watchmaker.
You could do with a new crystal on that watch its all very well and good changing the seal but if that face has a small opening it's going to be exposed to dust water ect 👍
Yes, that’s my next project for this watch. It’s dinged up pretty good, even the cyclops. Haven’t decided whether or not to do it myself and/or upgrade to sapphire. Thanks for watching!
Absolutely. This video is if you have to go to the next step. Also, most people underestimate how long it takes to get a full charge from dead stop/empty and/or don’t position under a strong enough light source.
Yeah, these will run on light alone, no battery, as long as the dial CONSTANTLY gets light! 😂 But that wouldn’t be very practical. When Citizen first came out with these they claimed to the affect of “never needs a battery,” which I’m sure has created some confusion.
Great video, thank you. I bought a Citizen Navihawk recently with skeleton hands. Unless it's bright out it's hard to see what time it is. How difficult is it to replace the skeleton hands?
@@WatchWitt I took it to a watch repair shop. The jeweler said he couldn't do it, that only Citizen could do it. That makes no sense to me. Is it because Citizen wouldn't sell him hands? Can I buy new hands from Citizen? Do other companies sell hands that would fit? Sorry, I'm a complete novice.
Sometimes a jeweler is a watchmaker, and sometimes they aren’t. You can source aftermarket hands, if not from Citizen. Depends on your dial and movement, and what kind of hands you’re looking for. You may be able to find a watchmaker, or even someone who modifies watches, through Instagram or other online resources.
You'll want to confirm on your own, but I believe your movement also takes the same part number as mine, coincidentally. 295-5100 you may also find it with the trailing zeros omitted, 295-51.
Thank you! I bought my Skyhawk in June 2002 after transitioning from the C-141A/B to the C-17A. Stored the watch for the last 10 years in my top drawer. I was wearing a Breitling Areospace. Digging thru the drawer, I found my Skyhawk. Deader than a door nail. Trying to revive it. So far no luck. Any ideas?
If you can put it OUTSIDE in direct sunlight (not in a window sill) that's the best bet. If you must charge through a window, it will take longer. But these can take 30+ hours of recharge to revive.
Thank you for the informative video. Couple of months ago I broke the crystal on my eco drive and small fragments of the glass entered the movement preventing it to work correctly causing the second hand to move in two seconds increment. I took it to a repair shop and they cleaned up the watch and put a new crystal. Three months later I noticed the second hand moving in two seconds increment again ( I have changed he capacitor recently- not the cause) and when I looked at it closely under a microscope, I saw another small glass fragment stuck between the movement and the case, which tells me there are more pieces hiding inside. My question is, how to remove the stem and crown to clean it up thoroughly? Is that stem removable at all and how do I do it? Any advice will be much appreciated. My movement looks similar to the one on your video. To be more precise, the movement is N-E100 K54594-Y. Thanks in advance.
Well, unless you actually SEE more fragments, or the movement is erratic, I would leave it alone. Chances are that’s just one piece they missed. They would have taken out the movement completely and checked for debris, since that’s what the watch was in for. But, I’m not sure where the exact stem release button is on your movement, or mine, but it’s likely the button/hole with the arrow pointing to it. If not, it may be any of the raised buttons near the pathway of the stem. Be gentle. You can damage the movement if you press the wrong part! Also, there’s a good chance you’ll get dust/particles/lent/debris between the dial and the crystal unless you have an air puffer before reassembling. Let us know what you ended up doing!
Great instructive video. I have a problem with my citizen blue angles watch, perhaps somebody else has the same problem. The watch is 12 years old and has worked flawlessly. The battery had run flat and I had a jeweler order the battery and replace it. The problem is that nor him or I can reset it. No error code, ticking normally. Went through all resetting instructions hands moving but revert back. It’s frustrating and quite silly that a quality watch like this should encounter such trouble. Any ideas would be appreciated...
Thanks. Yours is an Eco-Drive, right? If your watch was completely dead, in the stopped state, I believe you’re supposed to pull the crown out to the time setting position while performing the recharge session. Keep in mind, it can take 60 hours plus to charge in low light conditions. Once you’ve hit the timeline suggested for the brightness level of your recharge, then push the crown back in. Have you tried that?
As I stated, after the battery replacement the watch is functioning correctly. Charge indicator is reading full. The problem is in the total reset. After following all steps it will not zero out with all hands pointing to 12. During reset hands move but return to prior position. Why?
@@tomcannone9875 Ah. Bummer. I don’t own that watch, so I’m not familiar with that process. Like you said, hopefully somebody who has had (and solved!) that problem can chime in.
What model? Or at east what "calibre" (module)? A friend had a Blue Angel (AT8020-03L / H100) with radio correction. Kept reverting to "wong" time and date becasue he had accidently set it to radio correct to LA ime when he was in Pittsburg (NYC time). Set it ti NYC, and all was well.
Thanks so much! It was a fun project to film, and seems to be well received. Many of the first generation Eco-Drive capacitors are reaching their end of service date!
@@TedCornish I know, right?! It also doesn’t help that Citizen only refers to the rechargeable cell as “will last the life of the watch.” The actual watch can live on for much longer than 10 to 15 years!
@@TedCornish Exactly. They wanted to be able to say “never needs a battery.” Did they bank on consumers throwing the watch out at the end of battery life, and then buying ANOTHER Citizen? I think they did, but I also like to think that companies don’t have evil plots like that! It seems they just don’t want to back step on their previously mentioned marketing slogan. Eco-Drives are great watches, but it takes folks like us to inform the consumer.
Any help on diagnosing the problem on my watch. It's j810 caliber Citizen. The problem is that the watch doesn't show the battery is discharged. The second hand is ticking normally. After leaving the watch overnight it stops and gives me the incorrect time the next morning. The watch is only a few months old and I haven't changed the battery. It's my understanding that these eco-drive movements can work for over 6 months in total darkness. Great video btw.
Yeah, that’s weird. Definitely doesn’t seem right. You may have a problem with the movement, such as resistance that is draining the cell more rapidly, so you never SEE the 2 second ticks. But that’s a long shot. Does it keep perfect time in the day, when you’re wearing it? If so, I would suggest trying a deep charge. If you can’t get it OUTSIDE in direct sunlight for 12 hours, do an indoor lamp for 3 to 4 DAYS. If that fails, I would pull a warranty claim on it.
Any suggestions for a good place to buy replacement gaskets? I have a similar Citizen watch, E870 movement. I am having a hard time finding a gasket. Figure I might as well change it while replacing the battery.
It IS a good idea to replace the gasket, because at 12 to 15 year battery life, it's a pretty good chance you're the first one crackin' that case open. Esslinger is always a good resource in the States, or Cousins in the UK. You can also find random eBay sellers.
I just got a citizen interceptor with type 7870 and the battery has been replaced with another type. what type of battery is suitable for this type?? Please help me
I see you edited the comment, changing the movement to 7870. From what I can tell, that movement takes capacitor 295-34. You may also see it listed as 295-3400.
Try eBay. No, you can’t use a regular watch battery. It has to be a rechargeable cell…there is a physical difference to it. Another option is to send the watch in to Citizen.
From what I found, this movement uses capacitor 295-56. I got this info from Esslinger, who stocks this movement. I believe they have the capacitors for sale too. www.esslinger.com/miyota-citizen-ltd-watch-movement-e820-quartz-movement-overall-height-6-6mm/
I want to replace the gasket as recommended in the video, but I cannot find a source for parts. The watch I'm working on is an E011, so I'm guessing it's the same vintage as the one in the video. I checked the Citizen website, but it seems Citizen doesn't support their older watches.
Yes, it can be difficult to source the right part. There are many vendors on eBay, if you can search your watch model number, not the movement number. Eslinger and Cousins are great resources too. Watchmakers will generally order these in bulk, in various sizes and thickness, and match up using the old gasket as a template. Good luck! If all else fails, a watchmaker can do this for you quickly.
I received my Citizen Eco Drive J850 PRT a couple of days ago, it has Power Reserve Indicator but it always shows to zero, although the watch works fine except of that indicator. If I will replace the capacitor or battery is that going to fix the indicator?
Nice watch! Well, a couple of questions to get the right answer for you. Is this a new or used watch? If new, did it come with the crown pulled out so the watch was stopped, or was it ticking? 1 sec increments or 2? I’ll start by assuming it’s new and you opened it from the box and just started wearing it. Just keep wearing it and constantly exposing it to light and that power reserve meter should slowing start rising. If the battery were dead and/or to give you an idea of how much light it takes to recharge the cell, it takes 25 straight hours of the dial 8 inches away from a 30watt fluorescent light to have it start working normally. 200 hours to completely recharge. What kind of light have you exposed it to and for how long?
@@WatchWitt Hi and thanks for replying. The watch is new and the crown was pulled out first time I got it out from it's box. The second hand jumps in 2-second intervals in the first time the watch was exposed to room light. I exposed the watch to different sources of light (outdoors for couple of hours and room light entire night). Now the watch works fine and keeps up with time just the Power Indicator is dead. I have ordered a replacement of the battery or capacitor from amazon and I'm not sure if this is going to fix the issue.
@@koling-koling3938 Ah, ok. Well, based on your answer, I feel that it just needs a longer charge time and I think you’ll see the power reserve meter start to increase. I would recommend a mixture of direct sunlight (outside, not through window) and constant close proximity indoor light for that 200 hour range. That’s 8 days! If you get some solid sunny outdoor time it will reduce that charge time, though. It does sound strange that your new battery would give off the 2 second tick warning, though. If it doesn’t improve after doing the above, I would return it. It sounds like that’s not an option for you since you already bought a new capacitor for it. So, that would be the next logical step if you can’t return it or utilize warranty service for some reason. Good luck! I hope you’ll report back here with the outcome so we can all follow along!
damn, thanks a lot, my watch is just stopping to work at night, so i assume its the "battery" cheers its a citizen wr-100.. was my dad watch.. its sentimental value
Would love it if you check back in here after you get it up and running…let us know how your project went! So great to have a sentimental piece like that.
@@WatchWitt i just gotta order a battery :P (or whatever it is called haha) its about 60AUD with shipping :P prob gonna cost the same price as the watch to get it fixed at the jewel shop :P cheers!
Nice! That’s a great service life! As to the waterproofing, just replacing the gasket that I mentioned and showed towards the end would be all you need to do. But if your caseback has never been opened, and you don’t have any signs of fogging inside the crystal, I would just leave it be.
5:29 Where is the regulate/ trimmer screw, any ideas? Also any idea where to find pdf technical service manuals for Citizen (not the user guides the actual service manual)??? Many thanks.
@@WatchWitt Hmmm same here with the manuals. The _regulation screw_ - I have a feeling there isn't one on these E111, which are the cheaper and smaller of the Ecodrives - the Seiko equivalent the V157 range doesn't either, once it comes out of the factory that's it. Bah! Come back 7548 all is forgiven!!
Hello. Thank you very much for this video. One question please: What is the meaning of 12Y in the box of the battery??? 295 - 5100 - 12Y. Thank you very much.
It's in the description section, but here you go. tinyurl.com/watchtoolkit It has changed a little over the years, so no longer exactly like the one in my video.
That’s BM6210-56A. It’s been a great watch. Very solid. I need to replace the crystal next, though. Integrated bracelet, so you need to love it. Thanks for watching!
Absolutely! You'll notice in the next section that I've got gloves on. It was a faux pas on my part for sure. I was focused on the cell, and explaining not to touch IT....didn't even mention not to touch the movement.....as I touched it! It's hard to do it all at once on camera, especially zoomed in this tight. This is one of my early videos, too, so it was even more difficult then. But you see gloves from that point forward, I mention it, and I've got that info in the description too. Thanks for pointing out!
where do you get other parts, and find a parts number list ? i have a citizen watch that does not run, something is broken i send it to the citizen service center, but that place is full of clown, they had the watch close to a month and did nothing !
It's difficult. But you can try Cousins or Eslinger. I'm surprised the Citizen service center wasn't helpful. They're slow and impossible to communicate with, but they usually send back a fixed watch!
I have this exact watch but the case back is smooth, no notches for a tool like you show to grab and turn. How would I get a smooth case back open? I was thinking maybe it’s a tool that uses friction to allow you to turn the case loose…a point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
That’s weird since it’s the exact same watch. I can’t imagine it’s a snap on case back, but look for a groove or lip for tool prying leverage. More likely that, as you say, you need a friction ball caseback remover. $8 for a cheapy, $13 for a quality Bergeon.
@@WatchWitt thank you for the reply, I looked all around and it's totally smooth, no lip or groove at all where a prying tool can be used...will have to see if I can find a friction ball as you mention...
Pros use a somewhat dull knife - shortifh blade and generous handle. Lots of TH-cam videos. This guy uses a small screw-driver: th-cam.com/video/KxX40QIS1U4/w-d-xo.html
You could measure it, but probably better to match it up. You can buy a bag of assorted sizes and dig around. Maybe a watchmaker or modder can chime in on best practices for this...
Ha! You don’t even think of it, right?! I didn’t have any plastic tweezers with me (I shot this on the road) which made me think that most others attempting the project won’t either, so let’s just don some gloves and get in there!
I'm not sure, actually, which is why I didn't do it here. If I had to guess, you use your tweezers tips on one of the holes near the "no jewels" script (on this movement) and the other hole near the "-" (minus) sign you see. But I believe that is essentially a reset, otherwise known as All Clear (AC) and Citizen Eco-Drives have instructions for that process in each watch manual. It's different depending on the caliber, but essentially involves pulling out the crown for a certain amount of time and/or a combination of buttons for more than 3 handers.
There are several online retailers, like this one: www.watchmaterial.com/citizen-watch-parts/ I have not used them nor do I endorse them, but it’s one example for you to browse through. The key is knowing your part number to ensure you order the correct OEM part.
That means you need a recharge. Follow directions for that (HOURS under a light or in direct sunlight) and if it still does it, then this video applies to you too. But be sure to read the recharge directions. Most people aren't aware that it can take days to recharge.
Nope. That’s just part of the design fit and finish. It’s tough to find a budget quartz, and sometimes even fairly expensive watches, that hit every second marker. If you think it’s worse than it was, you could shutdown the watch, remove the seconds hand and replace it being careful to line it up with any particular second marker. Good luck!
I've had mine ten years now and it just stopped all movement so after some research I'm assuming it's the capacitor I just ordered one hopefully that fixes it
Ok they sent the wrong battery same capacity but two pegs instead of one so I wore gloves and took sharp nail clippers and cut off the extra peg then installed everything and watch is now working like a charm
Either is fine, but direct sunlight is best…meaning outside, not through a window which have UV coatings and/or screens that filter light. Check your movement number recharge instructions for recharge time.
@@WatchWitt Thank you very Much. I think I will buy a Citizen however I own Victorinox, Timex and Casio which run 10 years on an ordinary and cheap battery such as cr 2016 and Cr 2032. Happy new year!!!
Whatever Citizen calls it is what I replaced!😂 Just kidding. We've covered this topic in the past, though. See pinned comment at top, and there are other comments like yours as well. I actually used 3 terms for the same part; battery, capacitor, rechargeable cell. Is that correct? No. Was I secretly trying to emphasize that that you shouldn't replace with a STANDARD watch battery? Yes.
@@WatchWitt Citizen calls its Titanium Litihum capacitors "batteries," "battery capacitors," "capacitors," and "power cells" - maybe "pickles" if I look some more.
@@WatchWitt Thanks so much. Yeah I agree, its a really sturdy/heavy watch but I like it. It was sitting for a while but I just recently wore it out in the sun and got it recharged, and it still works like a charm.
If your case is not a snap on/off (which THAT is not as easy as it sounds!) then may need a friction ball to remove your caseback. th-cam.com/video/XurACI4qIO8/w-d-xo.html
No, they have a mechanism that prevents overcharging. They do warn about charging in higher temperatures, though. For instance, on the dash of a car. I think they quote temp should be below 140 degrees Fahrenheit.
Many of them stop after living in a drawer or other dark spot, then people don’t recharge them long enough to revive. If yours is in the 12 to 15 year range, the rechargeable cell probably needs replacing. If it’s newer you might be able to bring it back to life!
It could, but not likely a bad capacitor unless you bought really old new stock. Charge it in direct sunlight (outside, not through a window) for the best charge rate/effect. Read your movement’s charge rate, but most are 12 hours from empty to full in direct/outside sunlight. 150 hours charge empty to full 8” from a 30w fluorescent bulb.
A battery and a capacitor are two entirely different things. In theory a capacitor should not need replacement just recharging. A battery will die over time. Decide which is which please!
Yes, I was just trying to over simplify it by using common terms, and I said all three items (capacitor, cell, battery) to cover all bases. This is technically a rechargeable cell. As you said, batteries die and rechargeable cells lose their ability to hold or effectively disperse power vs their new state. But if I said “replace your battery.” one might purchase a standard watch battery, since similar part numbers are printed on them, and ruin their watch. I felt it was important to draw attention to the function of this particular part so that viewers would not miss the importance of replacing this cell with an OEM equivalent, NOT a standard watch battery. Thanks for also drawing attention to it!
@@WatchWitt Thankye Sir
You’re welcome! Are you getting an Eco-Drive back on the road?!
Jus got a few of em in the mail and they were in limp mode. Gave em some light and now they're coming alive.. Thank you for the wealth of knowledge. Thanks to you I believe Ill install the batteries myself when the time comes
Cool. Yeah, most people don’t charge long enough, or in direct sunlight. 12 to 15 years seems to be life span.
I just bought a Citizen Eco-Drive BJ9130-05E on eBay and it arrived with the dreaded 2 second tick. I assumed it had probably been in a draw or a box for a while so just needed charging but after a few days on the windowsill, it still wouldn’t hold a charge. I googled it and realised I needed to change the capacitor. I then found this video on TH-cam and you made the whole process simple with your excellent and easy to follow demonstration. Thanks to you I have a working Eco-Drive! Thank you!
Awesome, glad to hear! Thanks for leaving the positive comment.
You are incredible. Do you know you're the only person on TH-cam who gave such incredibly detailed instructions? I thought I'd received a bad battery, but I had done just about everything you stated NOT to do while trying to figure out just HOW to put this battery in to my eco watch. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! I'm going to place my battery in properly this time and, if it doesn't work, I'll know why and order a new one. That one will be going in just as you instructed and I'm sure will work. Take care and be safe. We need people like you in the world.🤗❤️
Thanks for the praise. I'm just someone who was faced with the same issue, though. But I did notice there wasn't a good video, so tried to fill the void. If you continue to have issues after replacement, don't rule out that the watch may need servicing. It's a beauty that these cells last so long, but it also means that it's put in years of service. Another reason I mention the part about the caseback gasket, too. Good luck!
Thank you, I now know which battery to order! Purchased my watch over 25 years ago for myself for Mother's Day, when I was a single mother! I've now been married 18 years & my husband had it fixed for me (I kept it in my sock drawer, when it stopped working) & wrapped in a beautiful watch box!
I LOVE “re-found” watch stories! Enjoy!
Before you replace the capacitor try putting an adjustable LED LAmp above the watch for a few days and see if it helps. It helped me to charge my Citizen Skyhawk that had not seen light for years. I left an LED Lamp directly above the watch (Maybe an inch above the watch) for 2 days over the weekend at work and when i got back on Monday it was fully charged and held the charge as if it was brand new.
Absolutely! I tried to convey that, especially in the video description. Most people don't realize it takes DAYS, like you mentioned, to recover from a completely dead state. However, if your watch is 12+ years old, and that doesn't work, then it may be time to replace the capacitor/cell/battery.
Thanks for your video. I had a hard time only because I didn't have any gloves to position the battery when getting it in place. Once I finally got it in, I turned the watch over. Nothing happened but as soon as I got it where bright sunlight hit the dial it started right up. I have it on a window sill right now to get it all charged up. This is a Citizen Garrison Watch I got off Ebay from a seller I used before. It wasn't charging like my other Citizens and when contacted the seller said they had been in storage for a long time. Citizen told me and him that it would take 1 to 2 months for it to fully charge after being in storage that long. Thats way tooooo long. So I ordered a new capacitor off Amazon and thanks to your video its now charging so I can use it. Thanks again.
Awesome! I LOVE to hear stories like this. Tip: the window sill is great (south facing?) but glass and screens have filters. Direct sunlight outside is the strongest/quickest charge. Check the description for a link to Citizen’s suggested charge times by model/movement. Glad you brought it back to life!
People in the thread, try pulling out the crown & pushing it back in. Sometimes this works as it resets the second increments after/while charging. I purchased a Citizen Skyhawk from Amazon back in 2011. It’s 2024 today & my original capacitor/battery still works fine to this day. This watch has been in & out of rotation for months/years at a time & gets stuck in a drawer at times. I just put it in a window sill & it charges right back up no problems. It ticks in 2-4 sec increments when charging back up. I just pull the crown all the way out & push it back in & it works brand new again no issues.
Thanks, I take a couple watches (G-shock mudmasters) into the jewelry store, for battery replacement. For some reason the tech at the Jewelry store did not work on these watches but they have someone that they send some watches to. The staring price for battery/capacitor replacement was $125. The capacitor and the watch repair kit added up to less than $30 (I will also replace the gasket based on your recommendation). But while my citizen was more expensive it is still kind of a basic watch with no special features and I should be able to replace the batter/capacitor. Your video was very helpful. Thanks for your video. Sorry for all the trolls trying to give you a class on battery vs capacitor. Your video was fine. Order the right part in the first place and you don't have to worry about putting a battery where a capacitor should be. Regardless of what I am working on, I always check my parts across several websites to make sure it is the right one. I like the part about wearing gloves. That is my down fall. I get into the repair and forget to put on the gloves laying next to me.
Yes, it's expensive, but definitely worth it for those that aren't comfortable doing the replacement themselves. I mean, you're going to get another 10 to 15 years out of it!
You explain step by step very clearly. Thanks so much for a good video.
You’re welcome. I hope your Eco-Drive is back in service soon!
Good video. Nice to know how simple it is to replace. I keep all my solar watches in box with plexi glass top to always have light on them
That's a great idea! They seem to function more normally when kept in a day/night environment cycle like that.
Great instructions! I followed the instructions from the link. I didn’t need a new battery. The recharging time from zero for my watch is 36-70 hours and direct sunlight outside is best. My 20 year old watch is running again.
Great news! Yes, most people grossly underestimate the time needed from complete stoppage to full charge. And outside is best, if you can do it…windows and screens filter sunlight. Thanks for leaving this comment!
I have a Citizen Eco and after 10 years it was ticking with 2 seconds increments too. I charged the battery by putting it at the kitchen window for two days, but it was still ticking with 2 seconds after that. Pulling out the crown and pushing it back solved the problem! It has been ticking nicely for 3 year years after I did that.
Nice. Your reset worked. Some of us haven't been as lucky, and the battery/capacitor/rechargeable cell needed replacement. You're at 13 years now, so you might be towards the end of life....if it happens again.
@@WatchWitthow do you take the back off of one that doesn’t have the slots? My dads watch doesn’t have the notches.
@he-mansuncle7661 Depends on what's there. If you see ridges like a coin edge bezel all around the caseback, then a friction ball is your best bet. If you see a little pry ridge/lip on a small section of the caseback near the edge, then it's a snap off/on caseback. Proceed with caution there, as there's a risk of damage to the crystal when trying to put those back on without proper tools. I don't THINK there are Eco-Drives with that type of caseback, though.
@ thanks, I ordered the kit that you suggested. I don’t believe it is beveled, but smooth.
Hopefully friction ball, then. The kit I suggested doesn't include one, but they're about $8 on Amazon for a cheapy, and maybe twice that for a Bergeon: amzn.to/3Yvth92
Genius!! Thanks for posting! I've bought two of the 8700 diamond bezel ones gold ones two tone!! The gold one was stolen..hate a thief!! Thank God for insurance!! As well as a receipt!!
Sweet! Love a great Eco-Drive.
So you’re a watch repairer as well Witt. A man of many talents. 😊
Well…amateur……! 😎
You do alright lol.
@@WatchWitt Best video I've seen on TH-cam for how to do this. Like Patrick said, you do alright. 🙂
Thanks…I try! 😂
..Great video thanks. i have Eco Drives for more than 15 years., time to replace a couple of batteries, did not know i have to use gloves to avoid contamination.
I’d love for you to return and comment here after you’ve replaced one. Report on the ease of the project and ultimate outcome of your results. Yes, finger cots are good, but I just used exam gloves as they were handy. Thanks for watching!
Great video and information, thanks! My Aqualand has been dead for quite some time (it was left in a drawer after a move). With your help, I was able to correctly identify the right battery and ordered it and the tool kit from Amazon. Both came in a few days and I just finished the repair. It's back up and running again. Awesome!
Oh, that’s awesome, Hurl…you just made my day! It’s a great feeling to get that watch rolling again, right? Thanks for sharing your story here.
Jewelry store quoted me $120 for this repair. Thank you for the tutorial.
You're welcome! For some people that jewelry store repair is the right thing to do. For others, this is a better move.
Great success on this video! Congrats. 🎈🎉🎊. Great tutorial. I like the tips re: the wood dowel and oil in your hands. I’ve shorted a movement or two via my stupidity. Expensive lessons.
Thanks! Yes, I guess it was the right video at the right time. @David Schwartz added a great idea of using a plastic baggie between the caseback and the tool, to prevent potential scratching when removing/tightening caseback. I ALWAYS do that now. We’ve all got some uh-oh moments, right?!
Great video. My 2012 Citizen Eco-Drive is doing the 2-second movement. I guess it is time to replace its battery.
Thanks! Yeah, you're in the "window!"
Excellent video! I have an Eco that's stopped and doesn't want to restart. I'll try charging outside. If that doesn't work I now know what to do! Many thanks!
The cleaning cloths look good, too!
Thanks! You can check your movement’s recharge time on their website. Link in description. Most people underestimate how much light it needs to charge from full kill. Would love for you to let us know your watch’s outcome.
@@WatchWitt Ordered my "battery" from Amazon. Reviews are iffy. The actual product carried both Japan & I believe Taiwan as counties of origin. Got it installed and have been wearing the watch. The little metal tab that keeps the battery in place was difficult but got it off & back on.
Thanks again for your video! It was very helpful.
Great news! Glad you rejuvenated your watch on your own…enjoy!
Thx! Now I feel confident about repairing my wife’s 35 yr old Seiko. A234 movement. AND, thx for your note about not touching the capacitor with fingers!
Whoa! What’s the watch and project?
I did this myself on two different 15 year old Eco-Drive Citizens. No problem. My only additional advice is while ordering a basic watch tool kit also order a little container of watchmaker Silicon grease. I always apply a very light coating of Silicone to the case back seal. My only gripe for the process is the expense of the capacitor. I can buy a twelve pack of standard watch batteries for $7. My Citizen Eco-Drive capacitors were $25-30 apiece. It is what it is. I love my Citizen Nighthawk that my son gifted me 15 years ago. While I was working on the Nighthawk I also replaced the scratched mineral crystal with a double domed AR coated sapphire crystal.
And it's like working on a car...you feel a sense of accomplishment! I enjoy it, too. I need to replace the crystal (and cyclops) on this watch.....
Glad I saw this. My Skyhawk AT is 11 years old now and I’ve been thinking about this day coming for my watch. So far so good though. But I feel good about doing it myself when the time comes. I’ll pick up that tool kit too. Great video. Subbed. 👍🏻
Thanks Jim…glad you’re still getting a long 1st life out of your Eco-Drive!
Informative and easy to follow instructional video. Good video and why not save a few $$. It is not rocket science to replace an Eco Drive capacitor/battery.
Great, I’m glad you thought so...thanks for the compliments!
Thank You very much. Excellent explanation. Very Helpful.
You are welcome! I tried to simplify it...
Excellent instructional video......! 5 STARS...
Thanks! I tried to make it simple enough for those that are comfortable tinkering.
I have changed the capacitors on two different Eco-drive watches, one a Nighthawk. Both were over 15 years old.
Great to hear, Larry! From the popularity of this video, it would seem many of the early generation models are due for a switch out.
Very informative. Great idea w/ the cuticle pusher. Thanks
Thanks for watching…glad you got some ideas out of it!
Thanks for your support @Watch Witt Congrats on your channel, as well. Good info, keep it up. 👍
Thanks. I’m plugging away with a lot of future videos in mind. More how-to videos, and of course I’ve got lots of watches on the way! Trying to stay around the $100 mark, but there will obviously be some swings in both directions. Thanks for YOUR support!
Excellent video!! Thank you!! Mine hasn't died yet but now I know how. I don't remover the exact year I bought it but my eyes could see it great then. Now? Not so good... Lol
Mine was about 12 years old when it was time. There seems to be a pretty wide variance of that timeline.
I'm 70 and have the same problem. LOL
Bought my Eco-Drive A-T (radio sync) watch ten years ago. I wonder when the capacitor will die. Can’t find the right one (I looked up what an H145 movement needs) under US$32, but I did pay $300 for the watch and of course it will be worth the money to replace it when the time comes. Maybe I’ll get lucky and it’ll be far in the future.
Nice watch! Based only on comments here and my own experience, it seems 12 to 15 years is the range. But that could vary widely from watch to watch, and depending on user habits.
Witt, great video and easy to follow. Found the correct cap, but where can I purchase a gasket for the back cover?
Thanks! Esslinger is a great resource for parts, but determining which gasket you need can be a little tricky. You may end up stocking up on several sizes!
Very cool and very helpful, you make it look so easy!
Thanks! It’s fairly easy if you’re comfortable with the tools and process. If not, it’s well worth the price, as expensive as it may seem, to have a professional perform the work. If the watch means anything to you, it would be a shame to ruin it!
Nice guide. Where do we get the rechargeable batteries from? I need something for the U700 movement.
Thanks. You should be able to find them on Amazon or eBay. Looks like yours is a little more rare, though. Here it is on Amazon, as an example. 295-7580 Genuine Original Citizen Watch Energy Cell - Battery - Capacitor for Eco-Drive Watch (Same as 295-758) www.amazon.com/dp/B07JKD52XT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_fX9NFbEMYFB1Q
FWIW, Citizen Eco-Drive watches do not have capacitors to store energy. The use rechargeable lithium batteries. One of mine is about 25 years old and still running great on the original battery.
Yes, we've talked about this in the comment thread I've pinned to the top. I used the phrase capacitor/battery/rechargeable cell interchangeably to focus on the part that needs replacement--it's simpler for the explanation, so people can relate. Those terms can mean something different from one person to the next. Wow! Yours is the longest running I've heard of! That's awesome!
If you don’t have plastic tweezers you can apply a layer of insulation tape to the tips of your metallic tweezers
Excellent idea!
Thanks for this video. I'm looking to replace the cell in my Eco-Drive. However, mine doesn't have any notches on the cover. Any ideas on how to remove it?
Hard to say, as there are a few different caseback styles. If you have series of small ridges around the caseback perimeter (almost look like a grip for your fingers to rotate it) then you need a friction ball. Or, if you see a little lip, almost like a screwdriver head, near one of the lugs...that's a snap on/off caseback. You pry/leverage that carefully to remove. But caution with those...they can be extremely difficult to put back ON without the right tools, and you risk damaging your watch...many will shatter their crystal while attempting.
I did a little more research and found out it is a monocoque case GN-4W-UL. Apparently, the bezel needs to be removed and the stem to replace the battery. I would love to see a video on that!
@stevenmonkman1500 Oh, wow, I've never seen a monoblock case from Citizen. Yes, typically you have to remove the crystal and go in from the front! You should be able to find some videos, but specific tools are needed. If you don't have the experience, this one is better off having done by a watchmaker.
You could do with a new crystal on that watch its all very well and good changing the seal but if that face has a small opening it's going to be exposed to dust water ect 👍
Yes, that’s my next project for this watch. It’s dinged up pretty good, even the cyclops. Haven’t decided whether or not to do it myself and/or upgrade to sapphire. Thanks for watching!
Nice DIY bud! Good video. Keep it up 👍. Great tool kit too btw.
Thanks! Next up for this Citizen is a crystal (and cyclops) replacement. It’s pretty thrashed. This was my daily for years.
The girl at my watch shop said to first try pulling the crown out to the time reset position, and try charging it that way before battery replacement.
Absolutely. This video is if you have to go to the next step. Also, most people underestimate how long it takes to get a full charge from dead stop/empty and/or don’t position under a strong enough light source.
Yea many think the light storage battery will last forever but any kind of quartz time piece uses a battery
Yeah, these will run on light alone, no battery, as long as the dial CONSTANTLY gets light! 😂 But that wouldn’t be very practical. When Citizen first came out with these they claimed to the affect of “never needs a battery,” which I’m sure has created some confusion.
Nice video for a beginner like me. Subscribed.
Thanks…I tried to keep it pretty straightforward and not give out TOO much information. Just enough to decide if you want to tackle or not.
Nice watch....what is the watch number? They still make them?
Thanks! No, this is an older model. If you like scouring, it's BM6210-56A
Great video, thank you. I bought a Citizen Navihawk recently with skeleton hands. Unless it's bright out it's hard to see what time it is. How difficult is it to replace the skeleton hands?
It's as easy as you are comfortable with tinkering! Kinda the only way I can answer that. Of course, you'd need to source a compatible handset first.
@@WatchWitt I took it to a watch repair shop. The jeweler said he couldn't do it, that only Citizen could do it. That makes no sense to me. Is it because Citizen wouldn't sell him hands? Can I buy new hands from Citizen? Do other companies sell hands that would fit? Sorry, I'm a complete novice.
@@WatchWitt you know what, the more I think about it the harder it seems. Anyway, thank you for your videos.
Sometimes a jeweler is a watchmaker, and sometimes they aren’t. You can source aftermarket hands, if not from Citizen. Depends on your dial and movement, and what kind of hands you’re looking for. You may be able to find a watchmaker, or even someone who modifies watches, through Instagram or other online resources.
@@WatchWitt thank you.
A piece of sellotape stuck to the back with a tiny bit sticking up is handy when unscrewing the back.
Yes! Excellent tip. Thanks for sharing!
Great video, thanks.
My watch number is E110-R19955 RC
. What sort of battery should I buy? Thanks
You'll want to confirm on your own, but I believe your movement also takes the same part number as mine, coincidentally. 295-5100 you may also find it with the trailing zeros omitted, 295-51.
@@WatchWitt Thanks!
Thank you! I bought my Skyhawk in June 2002 after transitioning from the C-141A/B to the C-17A. Stored the watch for the last 10 years in my top drawer. I was wearing a Breitling Areospace. Digging thru the drawer, I found my Skyhawk. Deader than a door nail. Trying to revive it. So far no luck. Any ideas?
If you can put it OUTSIDE in direct sunlight (not in a window sill) that's the best bet. If you must charge through a window, it will take longer. But these can take 30+ hours of recharge to revive.
It needs to be reset. You can find out how right here on TH-cam.
Thank you for the informative video. Couple of months ago I broke the crystal on my eco drive and small fragments of the glass entered the movement preventing it to work correctly causing the second hand to move in two seconds increment. I took it to a repair shop and they cleaned up the watch and put a new crystal. Three months later I noticed the second hand moving in two seconds increment again ( I have changed he capacitor recently- not the cause) and when I looked at it closely under a microscope, I saw another small glass fragment stuck between the movement and the case, which tells me there are more pieces hiding inside. My question is, how to remove the stem and crown to clean it up thoroughly? Is that stem removable at all and how do I do it? Any advice will be much appreciated. My movement looks similar to the one on your video. To be more precise, the movement is N-E100 K54594-Y. Thanks in advance.
Well, unless you actually SEE more fragments, or the movement is erratic, I would leave it alone. Chances are that’s just one piece they missed. They would have taken out the movement completely and checked for debris, since that’s what the watch was in for. But, I’m not sure where the exact stem release button is on your movement, or mine, but it’s likely the button/hole with the arrow pointing to it. If not, it may be any of the raised buttons near the pathway of the stem. Be gentle. You can damage the movement if you press the wrong part! Also, there’s a good chance you’ll get dust/particles/lent/debris between the dial and the crystal unless you have an air puffer before reassembling. Let us know what you ended up doing!
Hey!
What's the model number from that citizen watch you have?
Thanks.
This is an older Eco-drive Professional Diver BM6210-56A
Thank you so much for your answer! It helped me a lot trying to find this great timepiece.
Thanks so much for information, very helpful.
You are so welcome! Thanks for watching, and I hope you get many more years out of your Eco-Drive!
Great instructive video. I have a problem with my citizen blue angles watch, perhaps somebody else has the same problem. The watch is 12 years old and has worked flawlessly. The battery had run flat and I had a jeweler order the battery and replace it. The problem is that nor him or I can reset it. No error code, ticking normally. Went through all resetting instructions hands moving but revert back. It’s frustrating and quite silly that a quality watch like this should encounter such trouble. Any ideas would be appreciated...
Thanks. Yours is an Eco-Drive, right? If your watch was completely dead, in the stopped state, I believe you’re supposed to pull the crown out to the time setting position while performing the recharge session. Keep in mind, it can take 60 hours plus to charge in low light conditions. Once you’ve hit the timeline suggested for the brightness level of your recharge, then push the crown back in. Have you tried that?
As I stated, after the battery replacement the watch is functioning correctly. Charge indicator is reading full. The problem is in the total reset. After following all steps it will not zero out with all hands pointing to 12. During reset hands move but return to prior position. Why?
@@tomcannone9875 Ah. Bummer. I don’t own that watch, so I’m not familiar with that process. Like you said, hopefully somebody who has had (and solved!) that problem can chime in.
What model? Or at east what "calibre" (module)? A friend had a Blue Angel (AT8020-03L / H100) with radio correction. Kept reverting to "wong" time and date becasue he had accidently set it to radio correct to LA ime when he was in Pittsburg (NYC time). Set it ti NYC, and all was well.
Awesome job thank you!
Hope you gets yours back in service!
Very nicely done 👍
Thanks so much! It was a fun project to film, and seems to be well received. Many of the first generation Eco-Drive capacitors are reaching their end of service date!
@@WatchWitt it’s a shame that a lot of people don’t know they are an easy replacement and end up throwing them away .
@@TedCornish I know, right?! It also doesn’t help that Citizen only refers to the rechargeable cell as “will last the life of the watch.” The actual watch can live on for much longer than 10 to 15 years!
@@WatchWitt it’s always surprised me how they’ve got away with that built to fail marketing when it’s lies
@@TedCornish Exactly. They wanted to be able to say “never needs a battery.” Did they bank on consumers throwing the watch out at the end of battery life, and then buying ANOTHER Citizen? I think they did, but I also like to think that companies don’t have evil plots like that! It seems they just don’t want to back step on their previously mentioned marketing slogan. Eco-Drives are great watches, but it takes folks like us to inform the consumer.
Any help on diagnosing the problem on my watch. It's j810 caliber Citizen.
The problem is that the watch doesn't show the battery is discharged. The second hand is ticking normally.
After leaving the watch overnight it stops and gives me the incorrect time the next morning. The watch is only a few months old and I haven't changed the battery.
It's my understanding that these eco-drive movements can work for over 6 months in total darkness.
Great video btw.
Yeah, that’s weird. Definitely doesn’t seem right. You may have a problem with the movement, such as resistance that is draining the cell more rapidly, so you never SEE the 2 second ticks. But that’s a long shot. Does it keep perfect time in the day, when you’re wearing it? If so, I would suggest trying a deep charge. If you can’t get it OUTSIDE in direct sunlight for 12 hours, do an indoor lamp for 3 to 4 DAYS. If that fails, I would pull a warranty claim on it.
Any suggestions for a good place to buy replacement gaskets? I have a similar Citizen watch, E870 movement. I am having a hard time finding a gasket. Figure I might as well change it while replacing the battery.
It IS a good idea to replace the gasket, because at 12 to 15 year battery life, it's a pretty good chance you're the first one crackin' that case open. Esslinger is always a good resource in the States, or Cousins in the UK. You can also find random eBay sellers.
the new battery, Panasonic MT621 made in Indonesia :D proud of Indonesia
Keep ‘em coming!
I just got a citizen interceptor with type 7870 and the battery has been replaced with another type. what type of battery is suitable for this type?? Please help me
The movement number is 6870? A chronograph with 3 sub dials and a date window at the 3 o’clock spot? NOT an Eco-Drive, right?
I see you edited the comment, changing the movement to 7870. From what I can tell, that movement takes capacitor 295-34. You may also see it listed as 295-3400.
I'm having a really hard time getting the battery. can i use regular type battery? what type??
Try eBay. No, you can’t use a regular watch battery. It has to be a rechargeable cell…there is a physical difference to it. Another option is to send the watch in to Citizen.
@@WatchWitt very helpful information for me. Thank you for the help.
A very useful video.
Thanks! I tried to over simplify it, and make it easy to follow. Glad you enjoyed...
Please, help me telling me what is sthe P/N for capacitor for my old model E820 Eco Drive. Cannot find it in no source nor manuals. Thank you
From what I found, this movement uses capacitor 295-56. I got this info from Esslinger, who stocks this movement. I believe they have the capacitors for sale too. www.esslinger.com/miyota-citizen-ltd-watch-movement-e820-quartz-movement-overall-height-6-6mm/
I want to replace the gasket as recommended in the video, but I cannot find a source for parts. The watch I'm working on is an E011, so I'm guessing it's the same vintage as the one in the video. I checked the Citizen website, but it seems Citizen doesn't support their
older watches.
Yes, it can be difficult to source the right part. There are many vendors on eBay, if you can search your watch model number, not the movement number. Eslinger and Cousins are great resources too. Watchmakers will generally order these in bulk, in various sizes and thickness, and match up using the old gasket as a template. Good luck! If all else fails, a watchmaker can do this for you quickly.
I received my Citizen Eco Drive J850 PRT a couple of days ago, it has Power Reserve Indicator but it always shows to zero, although the watch works fine except of that indicator. If I will replace the capacitor or battery is that going to fix the indicator?
Nice watch! Well, a couple of questions to get the right answer for you. Is this a new or used watch? If new, did it come with the crown pulled out so the watch was stopped, or was it ticking? 1 sec increments or 2? I’ll start by assuming it’s new and you opened it from the box and just started wearing it. Just keep wearing it and constantly exposing it to light and that power reserve meter should slowing start rising. If the battery were dead and/or to give you an idea of how much light it takes to recharge the cell, it takes 25 straight hours of the dial 8 inches away from a 30watt fluorescent light to have it start working normally. 200 hours to completely recharge. What kind of light have you exposed it to and for how long?
@@WatchWitt Hi and thanks for replying. The watch is new and the crown was pulled out first time I got it out from it's box.
The second hand jumps in 2-second intervals in the first time the watch was exposed to room light.
I exposed the watch to different sources of light (outdoors for couple of hours and room light entire night). Now the watch works fine and keeps up with time just the Power Indicator is dead.
I have ordered a replacement of the battery or capacitor from amazon and I'm not sure if this is going to fix the issue.
@@koling-koling3938 Ah, ok. Well, based on your answer, I feel that it just needs a longer charge time and I think you’ll see the power reserve meter start to increase. I would recommend a mixture of direct sunlight (outside, not through window) and constant close proximity indoor light for that 200 hour range. That’s 8 days! If you get some solid sunny outdoor time it will reduce that charge time, though.
It does sound strange that your new battery would give off the 2 second tick warning, though. If it doesn’t improve after doing the above, I would return it. It sounds like that’s not an option for you since you already bought a new capacitor for it. So, that would be the next logical step if you can’t return it or utilize warranty service for some reason.
Good luck! I hope you’ll report back here with the outcome so we can all follow along!
damn, thanks a lot, my watch is just stopping to work at night, so i assume its the "battery" cheers its a citizen wr-100.. was my dad watch.. its sentimental value
Would love it if you check back in here after you get it up and running…let us know how your project went! So great to have a sentimental piece like that.
@@WatchWitt i just gotta order a battery :P (or whatever it is called haha) its about 60AUD with shipping :P prob gonna cost the same price as the watch to get it fixed at the jewel shop :P cheers!
Mine it’s 21 years old and going strong! What about the waterproofing ? Is it there a way to do it your self ?
Nice! That’s a great service life! As to the waterproofing, just replacing the gasket that I mentioned and showed towards the end would be all you need to do. But if your caseback has never been opened, and you don’t have any signs of fogging inside the crystal, I would just leave it be.
I'd pop the crown and stem out as well while the backs off and replace the crown gasket
Good move!
5:29 Where is the regulate/ trimmer screw, any ideas? Also any idea where to find pdf technical service manuals for Citizen (not the user guides the actual service manual)??? Many thanks.
Ooooh. I don’t know. If it exists on this watch, I need to find it too! Ha! I have only been able to find user guides, not service manuals. Sorry.
@@WatchWitt Hmmm same here with the manuals. The _regulation screw_ - I have a feeling there isn't one on these E111, which are the cheaper and smaller of the Ecodrives - the Seiko equivalent the V157 range doesn't either, once it comes out of the factory that's it. Bah! Come back 7548 all is forgiven!!
Haha! Yeah, I’ll explore under the hood of mine a little more, but I suspect you’re right.
Excellent advice!!👍👍👍👍👏
Thanks Brian!
Hello. Thank you very much for this video.
One question please:
What is the meaning of 12Y in the box of the battery??? 295 - 5100 - 12Y.
Thank you very much.
I have no idea. But I could guess that it’s rated at 12 years of life. Coincidentally, that’s about how long my original Eco-Drive capacitor lasted.
Where is the link to the tools on Amazon??
It's in the description section, but here you go. tinyurl.com/watchtoolkit It has changed a little over the years, so no longer exactly like the one in my video.
Great video, thank you.👍
Thanks for watching!
You might want to change your description, as you say that you WILL be responsible for people's watches.
Thanks for the heads up…but I don’t see anything in the description that implies that…
How to know the exact capacitor for the watch? I have a Citizen aw1020-53e and need replacement
Find your movement number, as I described in the video, then a Google search should help you out.
Thank you for the info!
Hope it helps…thanks for watching!
Good job Sir.
Thanks for watching!
I like that watch what model is it ???
That’s BM6210-56A. It’s been a great watch. Very solid. I need to replace the crystal next, though. Integrated bracelet, so you need to love it. Thanks for watching!
Thank you!
You're welcome...glad you're back in business!
I now use the BERGEON RUBBER BALL to open and close my case backs no scratches
Awesome...a good way to prevent over tightening too!
Nice tutorial but please wear finger cots. That skin on movement contact was hard to watch lol
Absolutely! You'll notice in the next section that I've got gloves on. It was a faux pas on my part for sure. I was focused on the cell, and explaining not to touch IT....didn't even mention not to touch the movement.....as I touched it! It's hard to do it all at once on camera, especially zoomed in this tight. This is one of my early videos, too, so it was even more difficult then. But you see gloves from that point forward, I mention it, and I've got that info in the description too. Thanks for pointing out!
where do you get other parts, and find a parts number list ?
i have a citizen watch that does not run, something is broken i send it to the citizen service center, but that place is full of clown, they had the watch close to a month and did nothing !
It's difficult. But you can try Cousins or Eslinger. I'm surprised the Citizen service center wasn't helpful. They're slow and impossible to communicate with, but they usually send back a fixed watch!
@@WatchWitt Thank you !
i'm from Sri Lanka, the Citizen service center used to be good but i think it's under different management !
I have this exact watch but the case back is smooth, no notches for a tool like you show to grab and turn. How would I get a smooth case back open? I was thinking maybe it’s a tool that uses friction to allow you to turn the case loose…a point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
That’s weird since it’s the exact same watch. I can’t imagine it’s a snap on case back, but look for a groove or lip for tool prying leverage. More likely that, as you say, you need a friction ball caseback remover. $8 for a cheapy, $13 for a quality Bergeon.
@@WatchWitt thank you for the reply, I looked all around and it's totally smooth, no lip or groove at all where a prying tool can be used...will have to see if I can find a friction ball as you mention...
Pros use a somewhat dull knife - shortifh blade and generous handle. Lots of TH-cam videos. This guy uses a small screw-driver: th-cam.com/video/KxX40QIS1U4/w-d-xo.html
Where do I find out the gasket size on my Citizen Eco Drive?
You could measure it, but probably better to match it up. You can buy a bag of assorted sizes and dig around. Maybe a watchmaker or modder can chime in on best practices for this...
I don’t see the link for the watch repair kit
It’s down towards the bottom in the description...but here you go: tinyurl.com/watchtoolkit
I bought a pair of ceramic tipped tweezers after shorting out a Movado movement.
Ha! You don’t even think of it, right?! I didn’t have any plastic tweezers with me (I shot this on the road) which made me think that most others attempting the project won’t either, so let’s just don some gloves and get in there!
How do you short the movement
I'm not sure, actually, which is why I didn't do it here. If I had to guess, you use your tweezers tips on one of the holes near the "no jewels" script (on this movement) and the other hole near the "-" (minus) sign you see. But I believe that is essentially a reset, otherwise known as All Clear (AC) and Citizen Eco-Drives have instructions for that process in each watch manual. It's different depending on the caliber, but essentially involves pulling out the crown for a certain amount of time and/or a combination of buttons for more than 3 handers.
I need to replace the stem for my BN0085-01E Citizen Eco-drive can you tell me where i can find it please?
There are several online retailers, like this one: www.watchmaterial.com/citizen-watch-parts/ I have not used them nor do I endorse them, but it’s one example for you to browse through. The key is knowing your part number to ensure you order the correct OEM part.
@@WatchWitt Ok thank you for the fast reply :D
Is this 2second ticking normal for a watch I bought brand new just 7 months ago?
That means you need a recharge. Follow directions for that (HOURS under a light or in direct sunlight) and if it still does it, then this video applies to you too. But be sure to read the recharge directions. Most people aren't aware that it can take days to recharge.
Ok so any way to correct the second hand-time marker alignment?
Nope. That’s just part of the design fit and finish. It’s tough to find a budget quartz, and sometimes even fairly expensive watches, that hit every second marker. If you think it’s worse than it was, you could shutdown the watch, remove the seconds hand and replace it being careful to line it up with any particular second marker. Good luck!
I've had mine ten years now and it just stopped all movement so after some research I'm assuming it's the capacitor I just ordered one hopefully that fixes it
10 to 15 years seems to be the wide range of service life. Check back in here after your repair!
@@WatchWitt ok I will I bought the capacitor on Amazon should be a few days the mail has been super slow
Ok they sent the wrong battery same capacity but two pegs instead of one so I wore gloves and took sharp nail clippers and cut off the extra peg then installed everything and watch is now working like a charm
I just got the battery now and installed it rite away
@@jmsn36 Oh no! I think I would have sent it back.....!
Should I recharge with a led lamp or a actual lamp with a bulb
Either is fine, but direct sunlight is best…meaning outside, not through a window which have UV coatings and/or screens that filter light. Check your movement number recharge instructions for recharge time.
How many years you wear your Citizen until this moment? very good vídeo, best regards from Brazil, Mário.
I think it was about 12 to 15 years. Thanks for your kind words!
@@WatchWitt Thank you very Much. I think I will buy a Citizen however I own Victorinox, Timex and Casio which run 10 years on an ordinary and cheap battery such as cr 2016 and Cr 2032. Happy new year!!!
do you have parts for this watch model Citizen Jv0051 U101 Eco Drive
No, I don’t sell parts…I just make videos!
A "battery" is not a "capacitor." Does the watch have both? If not, which did you replace?
Whatever Citizen calls it is what I replaced!😂 Just kidding. We've covered this topic in the past, though. See pinned comment at top, and there are other comments like yours as well. I actually used 3 terms for the same part; battery, capacitor, rechargeable cell. Is that correct? No. Was I secretly trying to emphasize that that you shouldn't replace with a STANDARD watch battery? Yes.
@@WatchWitt Citizen calls its Titanium Litihum capacitors "batteries," "battery capacitors," "capacitors," and "power cells" - maybe "pickles" if I look some more.
@@thomaslinton5765 Haha! Maybe that rubbed off on me?!
New titanium case back has no slots to insert unscrew tool.
You need a friction ball, then. th-cam.com/video/XurACI4qIO8/w-d-xo.html
What model Citizen is this? I have the exact same one but Im not sure what it is because I obtained it second hand.
This is BM6210-56A. It’s a great watch, huh? Has a solid heavy feel on wrist, but not too chunky. How is yours holding up?
@@WatchWitt Thanks so much. Yeah I agree, its a really sturdy/heavy watch but I like it. It was sitting for a while but I just recently wore it out in the sun and got it recharged, and it still works like a charm.
@@rodbelding9523 That’s awesome! Fun to rediscover a watch and start enjoying it again.
What do you do if the back of the ecodrive does not have any slots?
If your case is not a snap on/off (which THAT is not as easy as it sounds!) then may need a friction ball to remove your caseback. th-cam.com/video/XurACI4qIO8/w-d-xo.html
Anyone know whether you can overcharge a citizen eco drive? I sometimes hang it with the washing and forget to take it off for hours...
No, they have a mechanism that prevents overcharging. They do warn about charging in higher temperatures, though. For instance, on the dash of a car. I think they quote temp should be below 140 degrees Fahrenheit.
@@WatchWitt Thanks man! (BTW in the description you might want to change "minute" to "second", in first line.. HTH!)
😂 Thanks! That mistake has been there 3 years...just revised....
Thanks a lot
You're welcome...hope it works out for you!
Never thought the eco drive had a battery. That was why mine stopped working. 😅
Many of them stop after living in a drawer or other dark spot, then people don’t recharge them long enough to revive. If yours is in the 12 to 15 year range, the rechargeable cell probably needs replacing. If it’s newer you might be able to bring it back to life!
oh 12 years old!
Actually I just looked it up and I received the watch Christmas 2006, so just over 14 years as I type this!
@@WatchWitt wow! Amazing!! Best regards from Brazil, Mário.
would this happen on a new watch? thats whats currently happening with mine.
It could, but not likely a bad capacitor unless you bought really old new stock. Charge it in direct sunlight (outside, not through a window) for the best charge rate/effect. Read your movement’s charge rate, but most are 12 hours from empty to full in direct/outside sunlight. 150 hours charge empty to full 8” from a 30w fluorescent bulb.
Don't forget to recplace your gasket while you're at it.
Agreed! I mentioned at least inspecting it, but these will be old gaskets!