Garrett Apex vs Minelab Vanquish - Metal Detecting
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- Recovery Speed Tests of The Garrett Apex & Minelab Vanquish
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Equipment Used:
* Minelab Equinox 800
* Minelab Vanquish 540
* Garrett AT Pro
* Minelab Profind 35
* Garrett ProPointer AT
* Excalibur Sir Kay Shovel - Made By Casey (The Key Date Kid on TH-cam)
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Mike these vids are priceless. I swing an Equinox 800...truly an amazing machine in all aspects. Been wanting a knock around detector and now my mind is made, thanks.
Thanks Al 👍👍
Nice review Mike, people need this type of honesty when trying to make a good decision about what they want to buy
Thx Pat!
I have been detecting since 1968, and I am happy to sub to your channel. This was a great video and your test and comparison was honest and fair. BTW, I own both an Apex and a Vanquish and love them both, among a bunch of other machines. Great job!
Thanks allot Chuck! Appreciate it.
Awesome side by side comparison. I haven't messed much with the 540 I bought as a backup for my 800 but I'm glad to see it does that good. Thanks for sharing, good luck, happy hunting and take care.
Thanks! Let me know how you like it after giving it a workout. I use both depending on where im going. I like the coil selection and style on the Vanquish. The 10” is a nice size for anything and the 8 is perfect for the woods. I have the 6” for the nox but prefer the 8”.
Thanks for your comparison video, very helpful in my decision making for a new detector. I was considering the Apex, but now Vanquish 540 appears to be the best bet. Cheers.
Thx Terry
Well Done! I have been watching a lot of comparison videos and finally someone who does it so much better. Using a test garden and side by side iron test rather than just walking around a field like many other do! Thank You. Liked/Subscribed :)
Thx Fastday. Appreciate the feedback.
Great job on the review ! Calabash and I had the same ideas about the Apex and it was so good to see it play out in this test . Thanks for sharing it ! 👍😊
Thanks SRA, appreciate it. 👍
Calabash digger put the apex argument to bed over the last few days . Worst modern detector and in usual Garrett fashion more false claims .
@@beachdetectingireland3984 I agree!
great test i have a Vanquish 440 & it rocks loves gold rings
Thanks, yea definitely punches nice on the gold.
Thanks for the video. I think that because of the individual variants in different brands of detectors and the experience of use every detector has it own special place where it will excell. The challenge which makes it very interesting is to find that site or place
Thanks again very good review.
Thanks Brian. Good info 👍
Very thorough review, nice job.
Thx Scott
unbiased video! Exactly why I sent it to you to review! Thanks for your honesty brother!
Thx Andy! Appreciate it bud 👍
thank you comrad, you dispelled my doubts!
Your welcome
I will stay with my 340 and 540 for a while. Didn’t need your video to make that decision, but it set me at ease. Thank you for the video!
Welcome Jamie
You can’t go wrong with the 540 with it’s iron separation and iron bias settings. Where I hunt at around old barn sights and buildings this machine is a beast at separation and depth. After watching your videos on the 540 especially the one with the AT Pro on depth that one sealed the deal. When you consider the price and I paid only 149.00 for mine through PayPal cause I had a 20 voucher through PayPal. I had watched relics & rings site and he was having the same problem with the apex in iron nails and coins. It is really disappointing that Garrett would put a machine out like that especially for what they are asking for it cause I was considering on buying one. anyway I really enjoy your site.
Thanks William. Glad your liking the 540. Glad the videos helped. 👍
Now that Garrett has acquired Whites I expect a solid counter punch. As far as build quality is concerned those two companies have always been the best. Clearly, minelab has owned the day for many years and myself I run the EQ 800. I will say...give it two years and I believe our homeland duo will punch back very strong.
Awesome test my friend!!! I enjoy your simple but very effective , common sense approach that you take when testing metal detectors. Not tricky or too complicated, does it pick up desirable targets at decent depth, and can it discriminate between two types of metals . Ferrous and nonferrous in this case. I learn alot from your videos, tests, and hunts. I appreciate you sharing them with us on here. 👍😎👍
Thanks MD Roundtable. Appreciate the feedback & glad it helps. TC, Mike
Fantastic review! 🙂 Thank you
Welcome Lee 👍
good video and great comparison, thank you
Thanks Oleg!
A very interesting test. The Apex really struggled giving you a diggable signal. The Vanquish OTOH really nailed it. I wonder how the Simplex might do on this test. another great video. Thanks. Cheers.
Thx Big Dog. 👍
Yep pretty much matches my review of the Apex. Iron really pulls down the audio and ID. There are machines in the same price range and lower that do better. Thanks for your review.
Hey R&R, thanks. I watched yours as well. 👍 nice job on your videos. TC, Mike
Cool vid Iffy! Cheers! GL&HH
Thx R Dogg 👍
I was having problems with my Vanquish falsing so I sold it and got the nox 800 which started doing the same thing what I found to be the cause is my garret carrot if you get a good signal and dig it and leave the carrot on and try to rescan the hole or plug the detector will not read anything as long as the carrot is on shut it off and your target is back hope this helps by the way enjoy the channel especially the reviews
Thanks for the info Mike 👍
I'm sure both are very capable machines, Mike, but the Apex sounds are godawful! I couldn't listen to that all day! But thanks for the professional comparison!😊💖
Thanks Cynthia!
Trying to decide which to buy, youve convinced me, 540
Nice choice Chuck!
Amazing video Mikey. Great info. Awesome job brother, watch the whole video, can't wait to hear what you say at the end. Nice t-shirt machine in the background...Thinking of going to PTG this Saturday, depends on daughter. Can't wait to see ya in a couple weeks.
Thanks Mike! Good luck at PTG. Send some pics if you go.
Great Comparison test Mike! I don't think the Apex is a bad machine just got rushed I have heard they are working on a software update.
I know they are doing damage control and I watched a video of a dealer sending his back, first two machines he opened up cam locks
failed and they would not detect coins on top the ground. yeah Minelab is hard to beat I love my vanquish!
Hey Papa, thats good to know they are working on it. TC bud.
We are in the golden age of metal detecting. Now that Garrett and Whites are combined I expect a counter punch from our homeland company. Clearly, Minelab has owned the day for years and I run the Equinox. I look forward to the Apex 2 or whatever it will be called but whites and Garrett together is going to be something sweet to behold! Great video btw
That would be cool Mike, im sure they are working on something for the AT line. Thx
@@IffySignals 3 years later, we are FINALLY getting a chance to see what Garrett is going to counter with on June 18th when they debut their new “VORTEX” series...
Killer review bud good job!! Thanks for the info!! Look forward to trying it out!! Keep up the good work! HH-Ray
Thx Ray! Appreciate it.
They’ve already had to do serious damage control for this machine making videos to challenge the testing people have shown I think it’s a good machine just better options right now at a more affordable price one thing to remember the apex does have a usb charger and could possibly have data capability aka updates so it could be improved from the comfort of your own home either way I think even they know things have been less then spectacular with its release and I appreciate that you were as professional about it as possible
Thank you for the feedback. I agree and its great that these machines are updatable. Definitely looking forward to the AT line multi and possible updates for the Apex.
Seriously the Apex should cost$300. Not a penny more
Finally a reviewer giving it to the vanquish. All i see is reviewers giving the Apex the nod over the Vanquish. Then you look at owner vlogs and Vanquish owners are loving their machines and you’re not seeing that with the APEX.
Thanks Wayne 👍
Hey fella, Yowie here. About to get my first Minelab for chrissy, not sure between the Equinox and the Vanquish. I live in the coastal town of Burnie, Tasmania, Australia, looking to get some pretty cool stuff outta the ground! :D lookin' forward to getting out there and having a play.
Hey Dan! Thanks for visiting from down under. I would go with the Equinox. Coastal you will prob be near the water and the Vanquish is not waterproof. Good luck! Mike
a great test i was thinking about buying the apex ive seen loads of vids on youtube as of the vanquish i do my homework ,both great detectors i wouldent run none of them down ive had a few in my time ,ive ordered the vanquish 540 this morning getting it on monday look forward to use it ,look forward to the depth test ,all the best.
Thanks Malcolm! Good luck and congrats on your new machine. Mike
Excellent and honest straight forward review....thank you...now I regret selling my vanquish...to buy the apex..uuuughhh
Thanks Henry. Well at least there not in the thousand price range. Should be able to get back most of it if you were going to sell. Good luck. Mike
Very good video.. I prefer not to bash detector manufacturers, but in order to be fair with those within my sphere of influence, I have to make the point that you make with the video. I value my friends and I feel I need work like yours as an aid to help them spend their hard earned money wisely. Kudos to you!
Hey Dan, thx for the feedback. I agree that being honest and showing positives and weaknesses is the best way to help our small community of detectorists with deciding what works for them. There is not a perfect machine out there for my needs but many of the top models are neck and neck right now which is great. I think the truthful feedback also helps with updates and new technology heading our way in the future. Thanks
Minelab user for life. Js thanks for sharing. *Chris*
Thanks for watching Chris 👍
I still Do not know what to think about the Apex. But I am sure happy with the 540 and 340 now I just would like to get the 440 to complete my collection and then the 800 as the 600 is Awesome too.. thanks for sharing this video
Thanks Dan. Thats a nice ML collection 👍
@@IffySignals when I watched the video today. I went and put the 8'' coil on the 540 and went to a highly trashed spot. Did not find much but who knows what will still be there. i did however find s dime in with rusty metal in the same hole. Pretty cool..
Nice Dan! Congrats on the silver!
Thanks mate because you saved me money that i cannot afford. Garret apex arrived today and sent back within the hour.
Nice! You didnt like it either?
@@IffySignals Didn't even take it out of the box. Im only learning and only started detecting because i had a garret 250 i bought for beach for my kid.
Lockdown sht happened here with the virus and they said everyone stay home and fk that i went out.
I bought some cheap bigger detector with 13inch coil , TX sport.
Its cheap and cheerful and i have found hundreds of coins and a bronze age palstave that the museum is gonna collect.
Im not long back from the fields after getting chased by a fkn bull and thought my time was up.
Used my spade in stopping the bloody thing killing me.
It was mental but so much better than sitting on the sofa watching mind numbing television.
Im rambling but it was a good day with multiple musket balls and impacted.
Just gotta find the best bang for buck for this and i have a lot too learn but im seriously enjoying myself as i go along.
Nice! Yea its addicting. Best bang right now is the Equinox. Both 600 and 800 are both great. Vanquish 540 is awesome too but limited on settings. Who knows what 2022 will bring 👍
@@IffySignals Really appreciate that advice. I can bet that many people like myself making decisions based on wether they continue with detecting. Do you buy cheap and miss targets or go all in.
I think i just gotta do what my brain is telling me amd save for an 800.
Cheers bud 👍
The 540 was my first detector. Since then I have accumulated 9 others some high end some mid . But I find myself reaching for the 540 automatically . If I could have only one it would definitely be the Vanquish . For value you can't beat it .
Agree, great machine and so easy to use.
540 kicked butt there Mike👍
Thx bud. Appreciate it.
Looks like you have them a good workout 👍
I was trying everything haha. Thx
I would the same test with Steel bottle tops as like you was in a trashy park 😀
You have my like for the nice, unbiased comparison. Do you think the difference between both machines is a matter of signal processing/analysis by the software, or the processor speed itself?
Thanks Buried History! Could be all three, I really don’t know. I have a feeling the speed is there but its not breaking fast enough to process the new target info. Maybe an update can fix it. TC Mike
Just ordered the 540. Here in Kansas the Apex will not pick up a quarter any deeper than 4"
Soil conditions have a huge impact here as well. The multi IQ on the Vanquish seems to really punch through here in RI.
Good review! It seems like it's a good thing I went with the vanquish.
Thx JK! TC bud.
That’s an excellent review. I have the Apex and I wish I went mine lab. If you’re looking for iron Apex is the way to go.
Thanks Mike 👍
Been swinging and digging for 35 years. I held off commenting until I put some serious time on the Apex. I have the Raider coil and the new update. Yes it's a better machine than the Ace or AT line (sometime) As a multi frequency detector it falls short. The Vanquish beats it to death. Its a shallow machine, iron easy confuses the machine, the pin pointer function is all over the place. It will also lock the detector up sometime for about 5 seconds. I do like it's feel and weight. I appreciate Garrett's move into the multi-frequency game, it's about time. But this will not cut it. Cost more than the Vanquish 540 but can't match it. I am by no means anti Garrett. I have Garrett's all the way back to the original Seahunter 500 hanging on my wall. I want to by American but there needs to be a product that can preform.
Come on Garrett!
Thx for the review Larry, i was not able to play with it with the update but i agree with you. I hope they have a great AT line multi in the works.
Love your opinion of apex Larry sigers
How does the 540 do on the beach as I am looking for a new machine as I'm currently swinging AT max and it's great everywhere except for beaches.
No idea why they named it all terrain (AT) max
On the plus side it's awesome for deep targets ridiculously deep!
540 is great at the beach and very stable. Control head is not waterproof though.
Just got the apex ready to do uk test we see how she will go
Awesome! 👍
Very interesting test Iffy! I think I will wait for the AT Apex, and continue using my Deus and Equinox 600. Maybe Garrett can issue a firmware update to fix problems like this. I wonder if the Dr. Otek MT-XR could have hit that gold ring between the rusty iron nails?
Hey Nick! It is updatable so that would be great. I gave all those machines away or I would have tried it. Imagine that!
The firmware is rubbish . Would be like saying maybe the Atari 1 will send a update and allow me to play C.O.D on it . Can't happen .
You should try a comparison test with all brands the vanquish handles iron better than the Apex where the circuit is New where minelab has 25 years plus to refine the same type of circuit in trash vanquish shows more accurate signal report
Thanks Jeff
No surprise really. Garrett has been using the same tech forever. At least they have been changing the way they present it though and marketing it as a new product. Waiting now for the APEX 200, 300, International & Apex Gold 🙈
Haha, I think next will be the Multi AT. Lets hope for a great machine 👍
Big vanquish...nice test..👍😍
Thx Gian!
Great test Mike, I don't know why people would use anything else other than a mine lab..
QUALITY full stop.
Hey Jim, I definitely like the build style of it and for the small coil it has good depth. It will be a monster when the big coils come out. But that is not going to help the recovery speed from drowning out targets near iron. TC bud.
I am a relic Hunter and I own mindlabs . I've been doing this for over 45 years .My go to machine is an XP Deus!
@@denisshort3622 hello Dennis,
the Deus is one machine i haven't had the pleasure to try,
I know people on TH-cam that swear by it, all the power to you mate 40 years is 7 years more than me, I got involved in the hobby back in 1987, love this hobby and because of that i sometimes think about people are easily mislead in getting gear that will make them confused and not carry on with the hobby, take care my friend ATB Jim.
Noktaa makro anfibio is a good reason
Don't get me wrong the Minelab 800 is a great machine For the money I don't think that
can beat it .Nice to see somebody else has been around the block a few times to. Happy Hunting Denis
Nice video Mike, Minelab for the win!!
Thx Chris!
Does anyone find it easier to identify targets with the Garrett Apex over the vanquish 540 since the Apex has a larger target id scale from 0-99 compared to the vanquish -9-40? Sorry if this is a noob question but it seems like the Garrett could give a better target Id since there are more rating numbers to show?
I think it can help having a larger scale but then things can het jumpy. I am used to the ML scale
Great comparison. I would like to see you make another video where you do what everyone wants to see: Throw the Apex into the middle of a lake :)
Hahahaha. Thanks
Even though I am not impressed ,the Apex has a place in metal detecting but I believe its companies claims need to be reviewed along with its price ! The company needs to wake up to itself and start to actually put more effort into engineering something that matches their claims !! The metal detector no doubt can find coins but it clearly doesn't perform as well as some machines !! For me I will be sticking with my Minelab machines. Equinox 800 and Vanquish 540.
Yea lil edge for vanquish users but Garret ACE Apex has owned value the way of getting target under 3 feet or more bigger stone 14'coil frequency of jewelry items is 100% perfect its my observations.🎉❤
Wow, that’s impressive. Have not messed with an Apex in a long time. Hoping we see something new from Garrett. Waterproof multi would be nice.
I have been educated ! Great vid.
Awesome. Thanks JP.
the apex is lightyears behind the minelab . great video i feel bad for the new people to the hobby when they buy there first machine and are told that it is one thing and get something else .. BAD GARRETT!!!!!!
Thx Lee, lets hope the AT Multi is killer 👍
Good test. I’m not sure why anybody would use either of these two machines when there is in the equinox and the anfibio.
Im definitely a fan of the Nox, ive used the Anfibio for a little bit on a hunt but never owned one. Have a great thanksgiving.
What machines do you use. Great tests 👏.
Hi Pete, i use the Equinox 800 and the Vanquish 540.
Please tell me which one is the best for now..??
Vanquish but look at the new Minelab Xterra Elite. Its a nice bump up from the Vanquish.
Were both detectors powered on during the tests?
Hey Mark, yup they were ready to go 👍
Have you tried it with different size paper.
Hahahaha. Had me laughing. Have a good day bud. Talk to ya soon.
Mission accomplished. Hey can you turn down the sensitivity and see if it’s not overloading. I would never run The Garrett products on full blast.
This makes the second "air" test I know it is not always a reflection of reality.
But this is the second time that the GARRET has been completely passed, for a new product ... not good at all.
Thank you for the test.
Welcome La_Taupe. Thanks for watching.
That’s ok I will keep my vanquish like the older Garett more
Thx for watching William.
Nice vid! T2 for life hahah sad wished it would be better.. test it against the At Pro would be cool to see...
Whats uppppp homie!
Not much to cold for me!
Hello, sorry, i don't speak very good english
I want to know how is better Garret 400i vs Vanquish 540. Thank you!
Hi, Definitely Vanquish 540. 5 tones and constant multi frequency.
Hey Mike just checking in on the Iffy Signals crew, ru guys okay ?
Haven’t seen or heard from you recently 👍🏴☠️
Hey NZ! Thx bud. Were doing good. Little less filming lately but have still been getting out now and then. Another hunt tomorrow 👍
Vanquish the number one 💪🧐.greetings from mexico
Greetings back at ya 🥳
According to this test the Apex sure seems to be a iffy signal machine.
Haha Trey. My mascot 👍
Time to buy a Vanquish 440!
Nice choice Paul
Good morning buddy
Morning Johnny!
Good review of the two machines Mike. Minelab is the clear winner!
Minelab for the Win!! Although, my friend, who mainly hunts on the beach, just picked up the Apex and found a couple gold rings, chains, and someone’s 14k gold upper grill, lol. It was pretty incredible. When are you going to make it down here to Florida?🤔.
Thanks Jerry and Amanda haha. We used to go once a year but its been a few. Congrats to your bud. You upgrade yet?
Iffy Signals I’m still not ready to play with the big dogs yet, lol. I do have the hang of the Ricomax and I’m going to go with the Nox 800 when I do upgrade. I’ll probably get it here in the next month. I’m checking out the link you posted now.
Awesome congrats! You kids grow up so fast hahaha. Keep me in the loop 👍
Iffy Signals 😂😂. I definitely will!
You sure seem to have to swing that Apex very slowly to get it to find those targets when around iron. That is not the way you will be swinging out in the field. And that means the Apex in normal conditions will go right over those signals without giving you the signal you are looking for.
Yea I agree TP. Was an interesting test. Thanks for watching.
Can you please reproduce same test with the new Apex update ?
Hey Moore, sorry i no longer have the Apex. It was on loan for testing.
@@IffySignals Yes, i just realised that.. Thank you anyway!
Which metal detector do you recommend?
Apex.vanquish.Equinox 800
First Nox 800 or 600, Second Vanquish 540. I cannot recommend the Apex at all because when i tested it is was a turd. I heard they have an update to help but the original was pretty bad.
👍
Thx Nathan 👍
Which detector has a better depth?
Hey Ivan, they both offer different coil sizes. With 11/12” stock coils the Vanquish.
@@IffySignals I can't decide which of these two models to buy. Who would recommend me?
@@ivantrifonov1742 Vanquish is allot better in my opinion.
Minelab is still the machine I would still use
Thx for watching William
Iffy Signals oh yes good video on apex vs vanquish that I own love that detector also have the etrac that I call a microwave oven cause it got to many buttons just run in fe coins
First we had "Treasure Talk." Then "Treasure Vision" Then the All Toy (AT) series. Now we seem to have the "treasure trash" series! HOW has Garrett survived when Whites & Tesoro didn't???
Because they also have airport/school business and they are good at advertising.
Thanks to all the Ace series. The most sold detectors
Agreed .my 20 plus year old tesoro cutlass 2 umax out finds my friends AT pro every time....beep dig..no bells tones n whistles lol
Garrett was smart enough to be into the security metal detector business, and when 9/11 turned the world upside down, Garrett was there to capitalize on it. The Feds buy a ton of their walk through and hand held scanners, as do private firms. They make a lot of money on their security side of the business.
I just can't believe Garrett sat down with people and those are the tones that people said "love those sounds" . ...
Hey Bob, yea some people love those tones.
@@IffySignals I know they do. I have Garretts , but it's from when they had calmer tones. They are food at keeping wildlife away in the woods. 😆
Haha. I Like the AT Pro just wish it has an adjustment for the iron audio volume.
@@IffySignals I have heard that from people.
Ace 250 better?
Hey Spike! Just with all the new features and being multi frequency its better than 250 or even 400. Its updatable so let hope for the best. 👍
Red better than yellow.
Yea I definitely like the red better than the yellow 👍
Yep, if you get an Apex you need to dig all low signals in iron!
Yes! Dig it all
Apex is a real disappointment wow! Loved the test!
Thanks Craig!
You obviously havnt used it you minelab fan boys are hilarious 🤣
@@sylverdetective5547 I only use top off the line! Lol
@@craigtalley i have nox 800, ctx, vanquish, ace apex, and Excalibur 2 🤣 how's that for top of the line ha ha!!
@@sylverdetective5547 talk about minelab fanboys, you just said 3 out of 4 of your detectors are minelab and you called them top of the line, bhahahahaha
I guess my AT Pro has probably gone right over coins and messed them because of the iron masking. I may get one of those Equinox 600's.
Nice! The 600 is great. The multi frequency really shines in trashy spots. Perfect for the beach too.
@@IffySignals Do you think the Vanquish 540 is as good as the Equinox 600? It looks pretty impressive from what I've seen and is a little cheaper than the Equinox. Plus I like things simple.
I really like the 540 and the pro pack is the way to go. You get the 12” and 8” coil. Do I think its better? No you get more options with the 600 but it is simple and its like running the 600 or the 800 on factory settings. Coming from the AT pro the 540 would be similar to the layout of the controls. I use the 540 more than i do my 800 because i like the coil selection better and use the 10” coil most of the time. The 540 is locked in 5 tones no manual GB and not waterproof. The 600 has adjustable tones, recovery speed and auto or manual GB and waterproof. Performance wise they are right with each other In stock settings.
@@IffySignals Hope I'm not bugging you too much here, but are you saying the ground balance is preset on those Vanquish 540's? Sounds pretty much like a Tesoro DeLeon which I found to go deeper than the AT Pro. I buried a quarter at 8 inches. The AT Pro wouldn't id it, but just chattered a little bit while the De Leon hit it and i'd it with the correct number read out.
Yea the Vanquish series does not have an adjustable ground balance. It does an emi noise cancel whenever you turn it in but no adjustable GB.
I'm glad I didn't buy the Apex. Saved $500.00.
Thx for watching SD 👍
Harga nya berapa alat itu pak kalau sampai ke Indonesia 👍👍
Mampir👍🙏🙏🙏
Thanks for watching!
Dude you have a lot of detectors.. Can i borrow one.. Lol😊😊😊 have a nice day God bless..
Hey RJ, Anytime your in RI you can definitely come for a hunt.
@@IffySignals im sorry dude. We're miles apart. Im from philippines i like your videos that's why I subscribed your channel.. It's hard to find hidden treasure here without proper gear like yours. BTW thanks for your hospitality.. God bless
the real test should be on a salted beach IMO
I heard the Apex does really good on the wet salt. I know the Vanquish does but never took the Apex.
The Apex needs to be run on MS not MF when detecting on the beach. It was picking up targets in the salt water then but it wouldn't work in MF . I am going onva video a guy did. Still I think the Vanquish would out perform and certainly the Equinox would out perform the Vanquish and the Apex.
Garrett needs to get there act together or they will be out of business like white's Electronics is. I have a Nokta Makro Simplex+ and it will outperform the Apex in trash and have better depth than the Apex, It was only $254.00 You were to kind on Garretts Apex.
Thanks Ron 👍
Don't forget, without Garrett the waterproof hobby machines like the Nox and Makro simplex wouldn't exist. The AT pro was a decent machine for it's time and still is if you buy one used as a beginner. Is it behind the times? Yes........because it's what 9 years old? Was it behind the times back then? No, it was a flagship, much like the Garrett propointer which was and is still a flagship piece of equipment. As long as sales of those items are still strong, Garrett will be fine. Garrett's only problem is over valuing their equipment but..........if it's selling is it really over value? Who can say.
I highly doubt the simplex will outperform the apex, it can't even outperform an ace 400i. You spend all day digging junk with the simplex. All the simplex is is a entry level detector, with a few good features, wireless, rechargeable battery and waterproof, other than that it's just a trash collector with the odd lucky good find.
To be fair Garrett machines have a hard time with targets out of the ground how many times with a Garrett have you dug something up and watch it disappear out of the hole. The pin pointer will find it. And it could be a good item but for some reason they just don’t like it on the surface.
Mama always liked you better🤭
Next time ill try thinker paper lol.
What. no disclaimer. 🧐
Pin pointers are for amateurs...
@@henrymorin9744 Tell it👍😎
I know you didn't want to have to keep switching the machines off between comparing but it would have interfered with the tests a bit ! Other than that it was interesting to see how the Vanquish compared to the Apex. There is another guys video on utube and I was watching it . He actually had a test garden and the Vanquish was out performing the Apex. He made a very good point though ; there are videos out there making big claims about the Apex and videos bad mouthing the Vanquish. Its clear now after watching both these videos why these other guys are bad mouthing the Vanquish. Clearly they are trying to get people to buy the Apex . A detector which is clearly not even in the league of the Vanquish !!! Garrett should actually put more effort into their machines rather than using dirty tactics and untested claims about their metal detectors !!
Thx Jay! I agree. Not in the same league. I am hoping there next machine kicks ass because imo they are falling behind.
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Hi ; I was not sure if I would get a reply. I own both a Equinox 800 and a Vanquish 540 with the pro pack in Australia! I got the 540 on Sale at $549 which is $150 under its normal price here in Australia. ( in Australian Dollars) Good value for the money.
I haven't tried the Vanquish out on the Gold Coast beaches in the State of Qld yet but will be soon. I will try and do a comparison between my two detectors but I am not expecting the Vanquish to out perform. However it will be interesting to see if the Vanquish is as quiet as it is on American beaches !? Will try and let you know what I find out .
The Vanquish is awesome at the beach here. Purrs like a kitten just like the Nox. I have both as well and chopped my Vanquish stem some to fit in the saddle bag of my dual sport so i can take it in trails to hunt for cellar holes. Great machine for someone who is used to the Nox but wants something that can be tossed around as a backup.
Apex no Bueno!
Thx for watching Eli
Does the Garrett have a shite mode?
Lol, ummm. Good question.
It does yes , but I think they call it the power button , soon as you power it on it shites itself .
Dam i think my 26 year old Garrett GTA1000 would do better than the Apex..It's a good looking machine but gosh what was Garrett thinking?
Lets hope the Multi AT when it comes is better 👍
Best starter unit for a 12 year old? Prefer under $200 if possible.
Minelab Vanquish 340 👍
No comparison, sorry garrett lovers the minelabe multiiq beats not only garrett but everything else,
Thx for watching Stuart! TC, Mike
Poor performance from Garrett !! Back to the drawing board........... ML540 clearly outperforms Garrett in real world scenarios !!!!
Thx for watching Anthony.
To be fair, nobody who knows anything about detecting uses a Garrett with iron audio on full time. You just don't do it. Pro zero and that's it! You listen for the squeeks. I don't know why people keep using iron audio in these videos lol. Every machine has some mode or feature nobody ever uses. Iron audio is that feature on the Garretts. Is the apex still a bit underwhelming? Yes......they did a great job on improving build quality and features but just didn't quite get to where it needs to be. But you never use the machine the way people are making these videos. You notch iron out if you want to hear a coin in iron. You don't turn iron audio on lol.
Thx for watching Bill. Good info 👍
Agree 100% it makes the Apex look worse if iron audio is on, Biased or doesn't know how to use a garrett.
Definitely not biased Tim, ill use anything and always pulling for a great machine from the USA. Thx for watching TC, Mike
I don’t see what the difference is with iron audio or not, it still should see the coin, I run my ctx with iron audio on and can hear iron and a high tone in the same plug