My Louis Rossmann Ultimate Apple Hater Playlist: Why you should not buy Apple products.: th-cam.com/play/PLLQwKek0YsL8bqYkP0Y3VZaP-FvshSLjF.html My reasons to not support Apple: undinealmani.com/i-hate-apple/ Before anyone throws 💩my way: I'm not saying I support Windows, I just dislike Apple 1% more. I honestly wouldn't even say I "hate" it, cause that is a very strong word. I use that word more for like stylistic reasons, if that makes sense...? But honestly, I don't lose any sleep over people and their preferred platforms. Do what you like. Just don't cry when they take away your ownership and charge you for it. And most importantly, don't impose your absence of need for said ownership on others like it's a virtue or something. Also: it's not a virtue to waste money on hardware you don't even understand. I am not excluding myself. I could probably do better than my ThinkPad. But I am not going around telling others that I'm so cool for owning one and that some other user is subhuman cause they don't recognize the unreached greatness of some unethical aluminum computer corporation for ages hipsters. Fuck Apple.
I'm in love with everything you say here. I'm healing from surgery and really enjoyed smiling while hearing your takes on these topics. I use all systems , depending on the task but I have to agree the cringe felt when using a system thats designed solely to collect your data while Illuminating privacy that's a farce. Thanks for sharing , hope to see more great stuff from this channel.
THIS! I stumbled into linux on desktop because my aging laptop was struggling -- and suddenly it was like brand new! Fast-forward I instituted Linux on all computers at my work and life is SO much easier. I am IT department for the whole thing and I can have a system up and running in minutes. I drag one folder of app-images onto it and everything is perfect, fully ready to go.
I am so glad to hear that! And isn't it nice how you can update your whole network with just a few remote lines??? Awwww :D Love that you get to work with it, awesome!
I thoroughly enjoyed your video, Undine. As someone who uses Linux, macOS, iOS, and Android (and Windows) regularly, I find each platform possesses its unique strengths and weaknesses. There are quite a few things in Linux and Android which I would love to see on iOS devices - specifically the sideloading feature in Android and flatpaks. In a hypothetical world without Linux, I would imagine FreeBSD/OpenBSD would be the best alternative due to their open-source nature, assuming the absence of Linux also means no Android (there is a project that essentially is Android on x86) or Windows Subsystem for Linux. The preference for Windows over macOS in this scenario surprises me, since macOS appears to share more similarities with Linux than Windows, especially considering macOS is supposedly based on BSD. I can empathize with the disapproval of Apple's business practices, particularly their pricing strategies for iOS and Mac devices, it doesn't help things with the integration of non-upgradeable RAM and SSDs in their laptops/desktops. This integration, coupled with some of the engineering decisions for the ARM-based Macs where there is a wear part that when it dies the Mac becomes essentially a paperweight since it doesn't allow for booting off a USB drive. This seems like odd considering how Apple pushes for environmental sustainability. While Apple has historically been a trailblazer in the past, their more recent decisions are puzzling like the adoption of USB-C on their higher end iPads (and now all new iPads) while they stuck with their proprietary Lightning connector for the iPhone longer than they should. There are some of Apple's contributions that could be considered positive for everyone like their fork of KHTML as WebKit leading to the development of browsers like Chrome, Chromium, Edge, Vivaldi, Brave, and Opera. Regarding the characterization of Steve Jobs as a dork I find it puzzling since his persona conveyed an extremely driven and adept businessperson, and not someone who is socially inept (at least judging the by the dictionary definition of a dork), if anything folks like Steve Ballmer or Bill Gates seem to fit that description. Louis Rossmann does highlight a concerning trend in the relinquishment of ownership rights that we won't own anything, we won't be able to tinker with our stuff... and that we will like it. This trend is both frustrating and disheartening. The brief discussion on prices for their devices reminds me when I bought my first MacBook Pro I paid around $2000 (1400 Euros), what's bananas is that a similar type of MacBook would set me back at least $3200. I do admit, poor engineering decisions aside that the performance of ARM-based Macs is pretty, especially with battery life. While competition in the ARM-based laptop sphere is limited (the only ARM-laptop I am aware of is this one Lenovo one that are poor reviews), I am looking forward to the development of Snapdragon X Elite ARM-powered laptops. I wouldn't hesitate to purchase one of those laptops if they end up having upgradeable RAM and SSD.
With respect to software alone, I've used MacOS enough to know that I can tweak it to make it usable. Likewise, there's stuff like homebrew and continuity between command line applications I use on Linux. Realistically, all I really need for work is LaTeX, Mathematica, and Xournal++ to give lectures. Bear in mind I'm ignoring the ethics of each company and the hardware...ideally, I don't want to deal with either company, especially Microsoft.
I'd pick neither, the OpenSolaris forks are very usable, there's Illumos, or OpenIndiana which is based off Illumos, old style Gnome desktop, Linux refugees will feel right at home 🙂
Have you ever considered Haiku, BSD or perhaps even Plan9? Personally I am into FOSS mainly because it's in the long term the only thing around. All commercial software has a hidden expiriation date.. sooner or later all closed-source software will eventiuallyr be abandonded, or changed in ways you have no control over, or become ad ware, etc… Comercial software just doesn't last a lifetime
Maintain the Rage Undine! I'm with you in principle! :o However, I'm still trying to Migrate to the Penguin Place after some time but every time something breaks (Dual Boot, File Server Access, Screen Freezes, Mail etc) or S/W just isn't available! Like a proper incremental external backup S/W system (TimeMachine) to B/U to a network NAS , Server etc! :/ So it's back and forth to the Orchard until these issues are resolved, if ever? :( BTW: Zed's Dead! So Tim Cook is now Dork #1. Or could they now be referred to as Dumb & Dumber? ;) FYI: The Metal casing is not just for looks and is functional! I have several MBP still running OK after 9-12 years! The case acts as a great Heat Sink so keeps the CPU etc cooler! But one's lap can get a bit Hot, so a Stable Table etc is necessary! :D
i wish, i have no time to eat breakfast most days... so nope.. no email server. barely got time to make these videos -.- i use proton, but i am not to happy with it. email subscriptions for the blog are via mailchimp, cause that is the only free one that is half decent, but i guess i have to pick a different one...
that is a long time! not bad :D i think i started in 2010... but kept windows for a bit and work-wise needed mac os occasionally... don't miss it. i only miss adobe. it was so neat. :///
i would prefer macos because it is based on unix and doesn't shout at me every 5 seconds to buy a microsoft office subscription. i feel that with windows you are more of the product than in macos
Tacos > Macos! (Windows is cheaper though... I do get the "high end" kinda idea behind all the Apple products, but I am disappointed with them in terms of maintenance and support. With Windows, I kinda know that I am buying the bottom of the toilet, and expect nothing of it...)
I’m blind and have not had much luck with ORCA and braille support with Linux distributions. Accessibility wise VoiceOver from Apple with Braille has been my favorite. I also like that it’s Unix based. SSHing from Apple with accessibility setting to a server with Debian is my go to choice.
That's an extremely good point, sadly. I heard Molly Burke talk about this a while ago. I also tried Android solutions for read-aloud options myself, and they were so so bad... I don't know how anyone puts up with that without going insane. Do you have some sort of haptic feedback Braille interface or have I watched too much science fiction?
i have never heard of haiku, sounds cool. writing an os is horrible, i think. i've worked with c, c++ and .NET and oh boy... the main problem is that it is too much for one person at this point and that working with other people on an os is very hard. it's like a hospital building... an absolute miracle that not more people die :P
10:26 I've personally found firefox to be a lot more stable on windows than on linux, I'm currently on Debian 12 so i personally expected everything to play a bit nicer. I wouldn't be surprised if it was Nvidia drivers causing it, though.
Hm... Don't know cause I have no comparison, but in 12 it has been the most stable so far for me. I was using IceCat for a long time, I actually want to get away from Firefox again but I'm not sure what I'll do... The DRM shit is annoying
Between Apple and Windows i will choose two another Alternatives to my Computers - Google Desktop hack Android iso such Phoenix OS or another weird one,and FreeBSD,Free BSD or Solaris,Haiku,im a indie guy,that doesnt not looks like indie.
If I did have to pick between the 2 in the case Linux didnt exist I would pick Mac simply cause Windows will just have issues constantly whereas I wont have the same ones using Mac. If the other non linux systems still existed im sure one of those would be the one of choices instead.
Hey hey happy update installed CalyxOS on my FP4 :D. Tho had some real trouble trying to do that on windows and i gave up (ofc its windows and 1000000 of drivers u need). Opened up my old thinkpad x200 with linux and flashed it in 30 minutes. Literally 3-4 commands and few preparations to do and thats it :D
I'm tired of tinkering (I can - but why? To feel superior or what?) . Countless AOSP custom ROMs - countless self built PCs and Hackintoshes (of course all with Linux) which are as obsolete and worthless after a few years as other stuff. Stacks of superfluous SSDs, MoBos, RAM-bricks wasting space in my lab ... Countless hours of compensating non integrated hard and software with ducktape like remedies... use mostly Macs nowadays (bought refurbished or second hand) to save precious life span time. UTM for Linux VMs... I select my technics for my usecases - not for some ideology or because it is not "repairable" or a ominous freedom ... The illusion that same detachable parts give you the control back is pure marketing of companies trying to sell you RAM after RAM or GPU after GPU costing as much as a complete new computer. And btw: Linux runs on nearly every Mac nowadays... And Android without the Orwellian Google services is crippled. Been there done that. I agree with you regarding Windows ... Put that into the garbage bin a decade ago. And Clouds? They are other people's computers ...
I don't know, I hardly need to do any manual tweaking on my Debian, it's a "just works" distro imo. To set up another system to do what I want, it takes 2 weeks. Like e.g. removing all the services off of WIndows. And after a patch or one of their idiotic security updates, it's all gone again. Let alone "I like it better" things like just the way their fucking stupid desktops look. To me (!) none of it is practical, it keeps me from being efficient. So that is why at this point, I would not want to go back to either. The hardware thing I get. I disagree about the parts though. Being able to take out the battery can save you. Being able to replace modules that are prone to wear: the same. Just from repairing literally everything I own all the time, this is a fallacy I'd say. You can take it out easily and get a spare part: that's a car. Anything should really be like that or it is rubbish. It's the property of cheap shit to not open. And the clouds... well, I do not want my files scanned for anything, let alon SeCUriTY... no thanks. My tax files can stay up there encrypted, okay. And some irrelevant photos for the aunties who don't know how to open an email but whatsapp links work... that, okay. And about Google, well I did run 2 google-free phones. Not comfy, especially the camera app and keyboard. Depends on how hard you want it. And I think a big part of that is that people don't actually get how bad those datamining big corporations are. A lot of us, even tech-savvy people, just think "oh well, what do I have on there anyway?" but that's really a shitty mindset imo. I don't even want to be called on my day off, let alone give my boss the keys to my apartment. But trust a company with my unencrypted files? Really? You can say you don't care, but that's like saying you don't want to wear a condom with a total stranger, like "trust me bro". And then they fuck you over. nahhhh thanks XD
@UndineAlmani Desktops? Can't remember the last time I exchanged a part after the assembly. Three years ago perhaps? Phones? the newest runs for three years now. Watch? Three years and hopefully a few more. The oldest iPhone retired after 10 years, the oldest macbook is stil in use after 13 years with the first battery at 90%. Runs the newest system thanks to OpenCore. Ok, I overheated a old iMac running Linux after 8ish years - was recycled. Strangely enough all "repairable" computers are gone now (or wasting space waiting to be potentially cannibalized), the Macs and iPads are still there. Fairphones? Tried that. No way to add 5G, only cameras. No enterprise certification, sadly. Case? Never had a broken phone case in the last 20 years or need to change the battery. Nice tinker marketing to feel good about being "environment friendly" ... Thank you for your long answer and despite the different view angles I like your channel ;-)
Windows is quite an "exotic" Frankenstein-ish OS mix with subsystems, a "registry" (a camouflaged Access database !!11!!) and drive letters ... and not at all unixoid with it's crippled command shell (don't mention "powershell" please), Apple ist very unix-like especially on the console. Install Homebrew (also for Linux) and some other tools and it is quite comfortable in that regard. Or use qemu/UTM for near native speed VMs if that is not enough. So the debate is not as silly as you think.... If one must choose (blame the companies we work for with their duck syndrome!) I reluctantly choose Apple any time.
In the UX i'd prefer Apple, but really i'd definetly use windows, it grants way more freedome. Not as much as and not as straightforward as linux, but way more than apple, like the simple fact i can still build my own computer and there is even an "IoT-Core" Windows for Raspberry Pi and a (more or less) Proper Server variant, etc.
I would like to run apple hardware M# cpu/gpu using Linux. It is still too early for me to make the dive into it. Software wise, I really like windows 11 over Mac OS.
Consider yourself lucky if you can choose any OS for your job. There’s so many professions where the required software is either Windows only or Mac only. FOSS is great, but there’s so many niches where there aren’t professional level apps, and then the OS you choose is entirely dependent on what platform those apps run on.
I could not choose in any company I worked, some software yes, but never the OS. In Uni, I put Linux on my Mac computer though, cause I mean, what were they going to do lol? Technically I could've written my thesis on paper :D I actually think in R&D we could do with Linux. But people want Microsoft Teams and other useless shit (just use Jitsi ffs...) and pay for it because they think then the company who made the software owes them something... although irl the support is usually crap anyway and if you got an outtage you're doomed and your data is gone, but "theoretically they are liable":.. my experience: nothing good comes off paying for software ever, unless the software is really top tier and therefore "worth it". but security wise, not really
to be fair, my ideal laptop is a macbook, running linux. I use linux at work for 6-7 years now, and starting with next upgrade I will use it for my gaming rig as well. I hated all the telemetry, I hated all the ads in the OS, the online account but AI spyware was the last drop, so linux it is for gaming. For my laptop, I do think I will get an M4 macbook air and just put Asahi on it. I mean show me better hardware at less then 1600 grams.
It would be a very sad world, but I would pick Windows of course. Paying for a personalized Unix that you can have for free and forcing you to use it in - to me - completely illogical ways, in a machine that you paid 3 times the price of an equivalent one just because of "design", is just criminal. Microsoft is not better in a lot of ways, but at least I don't have to be their cash cow in the first place, and I can disable all their attempt to make me one with a bit of work.
that is one of the main reasons for me too. i hate seeing windows going down the ecosystem cloud shit route, but i tried mac os many times, mostly work-related, and sometimes i needed to look at it when collaborating with people, and each time i was just appalled. lol, almost wrote appled. >_> mostly because there is just no way to make this system do anything you want right away, everything feels like so much work. i don't need a system that constantly wants to redirect me to "what is better for me"... same for windows since 10. the whole navigation is just ewwww. the thing is, i am really wondering though about alternative windows versions. e.g. police in germany is using windows, but not the "normal windows", they have a custom system. i just don't know what exactly, as i only know that from someone who actually held software education classes for the police. but i wonder if that could not be a possible thing for windows, to provide actually better more personalized versions of windows to companies. similar to sap, but working instead of making you miserable XD
From work, I'd agree... Mostly because of compatibility issues. Like wtf is that ecosystem bullshit and why does Microsoft start doing this too...? Along with the subscription crap?
Linux is Open Source, that is correct... But the biggest contributors are e.g. Huawei(!), Samsung, Nvidia, Intel, Google, Microsoft, IBM ... some of the biggest privacy and data protection violators on the planet...
they are... and there were a lot of scammy ones too, like (1) few innovative changes from one model to the next or (2) the mac mini failures (getting hot if you open more than 3 browser tabs) and (3) the fact that they make their products hard to repair and want users to believe it is for security
i@@UndineAlmani i had the misfortune of having to set up a mac at work the other day and its terrible. no real boot menu or bios and it didn't like my mx linux cd i put in it. I've heard of people running linux on macs but i'd much rather have a dell or really any other but mac.
@@UndineAlmani So I probably say Windows cause Apple are not very open-source friendly. I alredy run a Windows 10 VM when a need a software not available on Linux. Most of the time it's because un client use it. For my personnal use, I use only open-source software.
I think we're taking software/operating systems way too seriously to the point where we treat it like religion. I used to be the same until recently. In my opinion, operating systems are simply tools and that's how they should be treated. My PC is mainly used to run video games, so I have Windows on it. I know gaming is good on Linux with Proton, but it is not as good, and after my 8-10h a day as a developer, I don't want to tweak my system to just get a game running. Otherwise I'd for sure use Linux, because it fits 100% of my any other scenario. I don't really see the point of MacOS tbh, it is the worst of both worlds.
I think Apple were the ones who started the cult shit. All the other ones are tools. But in terms of privacy, I don't really think that any of the commercial OSs is still an option today. Not with massive tweaking. And if I need to put more work into it than a Debian installation, I can install a Debian... I think the issue I have with Apple today is mostly their ecosystem bullshit aka their weird little incompatiblity olympics. And I dislike the way the company just drives up prices for mediocre hardware. The idea to bind your icky deficient software to hardware in the first place (same goes for windows phone and similar stuff) is just idiotic to me. Any modern platform should be as device-independent or cross-device-able and as versatile as possible.
I knew privacy would be mentioned at this point and there is no doubt that Linux based OSes are generally collecting less/no data. However, in the words of Mental Outlaw, the biggest black pill is "embrace digital minimalism". A year and more back I used to talk to people about Linux and privacy but then I realized a few things: - I have another device tracking my every step at all times - the smartphone - No matter how private my PC OS is, I still depend on an ISP to get internet access - If I use a VPN, gotta trust that VPN company, and trusting a company doesn't sound that legit; guess I could use Tor, but nothing I do on my tech warrants that and the loss of convenience is too big - Hell, I'm here on TH-cam with my driver's license attached to my account to be verified as over 18 so I can watch horror let's plays - Even if you have privacy ironed out, you're only as private as the least private friend or family member Point is not to say privacy is impossible to achieve or you shouldn't care, I personally don't have Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok etc. I just believe there are other, more pragmatic ways to uphold privacy: - Try not to do stuff that you don't want to be recorded with or around your tech (embrace digital minimalism) - Don't have cameras and mics senselessly connected around you at all times - Keep an eye on the law - look for and participate in law initiatives regarding data protection
All that long block of text to say is, I won't mind Windows as long as it stays out of my way. If they continue installing Disney and Candy Crush Saga apps to my PC or pushing ads that I can't avoid, I'm throwing it out the window (Windows, ironically, not my PC)
@@UndineAlmani Slept walked into it. I bought an iPhone, my son gifted me a Mac, plus I have a Mac for work... I'm a software engineer (backend) so most of my time I'm mostly SSH'ing into Linux boxes. I still have and use my personal Linux machines... I'm trying to absolve myself 😀 I'm now suffering with cognitive dissonance 😁... What am I doing?!?!
@sto3359 omg I feel that. I don't know man .... I don't know... When I had to work with Linux I tried to make it more Linuxy, installed all my FOSS, tweaked it, but was never happy...
i pick macOS cause its BSD based and I quite like Darwin a lot as it is much like FreeBSD and im a bsd nerd lol.... but yeah i also own a mac m1 but i dont even use it anymore i had it for 4 years now... it just sits on a desk the living room since i got my beelink 5800h mini pc i use fedora 40 on it and thats all i use ... in the living room :P
I just made it into this video halfway. I've coded, I've designed, I've played, I prefer macOS to Windows. There are so many ways to interact with or create things while being respectful. While some aspects can't be denied, like aspects of privacy, freedom of choice etc., I would say thinking of Apple computers being designed for noobs is condescending and just wrong (that's comparable to the idea that graphical user interfaces are designed for morons or something, which is just as idiotic). I can't tell if any system of the two is objectively better than another, but I can tell you how experience with some products is influenced by lots of factors. If you really wanted people to do the right thing (supporting sustainability in various ways for example), you'd not be talking this way. You'd put emphasis on this being your opinion and offer a way to understand what you're talking about for people who might be currently locked into thinking Apple is the holy grail or something. There definitely are people who praise Apple for really anything, even if it's just their marketing (referring to the example of carbon neutrality marketing, which is or will be banned in the EU I think). Though I still think it's important to have an entity that, even if primarily for economic purposes, drives the attention and industry towards sustainability (of course in a way that actually benefits the world we live in). Not sure if Apple is a follower or a leader in that aspect at that size of a company. I'm not sure why people feel the need to irrationally act like Apple is the worst company of them all, until something pops up that supports that claim. It's sadly only natural that the more pieces are involved, the higher the probability for something to go wrong (talking about the amount of people, places etc. a company works with; there's a need for scrum masters after all). You could project that scheme onto anything and be right at some point in time. If I take a look at Gamers Nexus, Linus tech Tips or any other media, I will eventually find something wrong with almost anything they talk about, based on perspective. But I am willing to focus on putting positivity out there, while also enabling people to support each other and fuelling creative ways to combat issues we are living with. Depending on the impact of the actions of a CEO, you'd of course be right to tell others not to get something from a company. I personally am definitely not fine with the way Apple handles some things, but I am in line with their voice and power to change industries (apart from anything that only stems from greed, such as high profit margins). But I will take a look at the playlist you linked in your comment. It's of course the responsibility of people to inform themselves about good and rather bad aspects of things they use, for consumption and other things. But I'd like to know what you would want to say in response to my comment. Happy to learn. 😄 Oh, and if there's something that may come across as unkind, please make me aware and be sure it is not my intention. I know I may come across as an Apple noob (if you want to put it that way) based on my tone, which could be interpreted as being protective about Apple. Just know I am only interested in finding a kind but constructive way, not unnecessarily saying something positive because I want it to be positive. Looking forward to learn.
I don't know how this comment got so long. i think it is bc first I was mad, then I thought: no, don't be mad, you're just tired, and tried to write it more friendly... well oops. Partly disagree... Apple imo virtually feeds off of noobs at this point. I mean, maybe it was not initially (like decades ago) designed to target noobs (it was though, kind of... let me think... they wanted to make the interface more human-ish, communicative, friendly... idk, man). But anyway, today, they absolutely are doing this. The fact alone that it is so cult-ish... Things like motivating people to go for a 0.2mm thinner product each year? (That is a thing, still... oh, and their stupid stores and the way they hire people there, the ageism and shit, eww...) Or just think of any iPhone or iPad. Those are noob products. As in: >price and
@@UndineAlmani Good evening! Don’t be mad. Maybe I got something wrong. Will find out when I read you whole reply and reflect in the video again. I’ll be reading you reply tomorrow. But, if I can’t reply before the weekend, have a nice one! We all get worked up for nothing sometimes. Not saying this is the case here, but I think you get what I mean. Don’t spend too much time dwelling on my comment, wasn’t meant in evil spirit. 🤗
@@UndineAlmani So, here’s my answer: First, I’ve no intention of causing bad feelings. So, if you feel like you’re not in the mood, don’t mind. I didn’t want to cause bad feelings. Also, don’t worry, I just wanted to put my thoughts out there. I’m not mad at you or anything. Oh, and just because I felt the need to check the video a bit for the following part, I’m not an Apple simp or sheep, thehe. I use Windows, btw. 😄 No, I really do, although it’s just for playing games. Anyway, here goes: What you suggested is Apple designing products for noobs, if I’m correct (just not referencing the video right now as that’d take too much time, so I hope you understand). That is true for any company, because companies are interested in getting more people to use their product. Buuuut, I might be in the wrong, I got to know the term „noob“ as something rather negative, in contrast to „newbie“. But in that case, or in any, it was rather the way you talked for me, which made me write my comment. Man, I hadn’t even finished the video because I lacked the time. 😄 But I have now. But now, since Jony Ive left, the products haven’t been about thinness, I think. And, oh, am I happy about that. The company has been focused on the M-series etc. Well, they seem to be going for AI (based on what I read), which I’m not the greatest fan of. I just hope they demonstrate responsible behaviour, not like others ripping off artists ans stuff. That’s another topic. 😄 Anyway, I understand what you’re saying. Though I still think it’s harsh to suggest Apple designs for noobs when their products are used by professionals everyday, just like I use them to do my work. If we lived in a society with a different standard regarding the use of technology, there’d probably be more systems designed like Windows or Linux (which doesn’t really have one design I think, in terms of UI), maybe completely different interfaces, maybe no screens at all, who knows. You know, I’m just honestly a little annoyed by all the down talk regarding Apple products. I love criticism, don’t get me wrong. I just love seeing things develop, just like I used to when I kind of put „my own“ custom ROM together, you know, like editing the build.prop file in order to put the status bar at the bottom of the screen or something in Android Gingerbread. Back then I hated Apple from the depths of my heart, even tried to mock Apple users online, which was toxic as hell. No, I’m not thinking of you as someone like that. It’s just that when I switched to Apple devices, I realised how seriously troubling the situation about just using what you use is. In all the time using Apple products, I’ve only come across people telling me I’d be an idiot for using them or how Apple products are a scam etc. But I have discovered, apart from some obvious critical points like the price (storage for example, apart from other things to be criticised), they just aren’t bad like some people want or think them to be. That whole experience changed a lot for me. There’s a lot more I could add here, but I think that’s enough for now. Now, I think it is preposterous, for the lack of a better word right now, to say that people who can afford Apple products have the time (resources) or even the intention (resources) to go for something else, potentially more privacy focused. Lots of people just go with what they have already learned to deal with. And many can’t afford to spend the time studying another product in a way that gets them where they want to go. It’s just not something you should assume. It’s also not right to assume that people who code would prefer Windows. That greatly depends on what people do. Now, I know of Linux being literally everywhere. And it’s often open source, which is a great reason. I’m just not really fine with some of the assumptions you put out there (iOS not intuitive, efficiency on Android etc.). The way you talked was „I hate Apple“ (looking for a reason to be valid), but then going for „then I found Rossman, who supports what I have felt so far“. That, to my ears, does not sound like someone who wants to let others know, in a serious manner, what they prefer. No, that’s rather the opposite. The title even asks which you would go for, not how much you can convey how you dislike one thing. I hope you understand what I mean. It feels more like a rant, less than an opinion. Just one thing before ending this comment: I don’t intend to criticise your use or your stance on Apple. I just wanted to make you aware of the way you phrased your thoughts, which would suggest you think of Apple users as noobs in general, you know. You know, one reason I have subscribed your channel is that I think you seem to be a cool person. And nothing here changed that. Disagreements are alright. I aim to challenge my views all the time. But that’s also the reason I comment some videos. Sometimes to my benefit, sometimes not. And I think your comment helps me to understand your view a bit more. So, thank you for that so far! 😀 But I’m greatly interested in the reason you dislike Scrum. Because I actually benefitted from it. So, if you feel like it, tell me more! Other than that, thank you for taking the time to respond! Because, you know, you don’t have to. Remember that. I don’t want you to feel bad. Just as a reminder and to be sure: If anything I said in this comment comes across as rude, let me know. Sorry for mentioning this often. I know how comment sections can get heated rather quickly. Despite having funny takes as well, I want to avoid that. 😄 Again thank you both for your time and effort!
I just don't want to guarantee that someone's indoor kid won't fall off a tree and break their neck and then it's "This TH-camr told me to let them outside" 🙈😬🙈
u can install Linux on some macs. on the M1s the FOSS community has reversed engineered the hardware and u have Asahi linux. Not a daily driver i think. but mac is based off on FreeBSD so its the mosr unix like in terminals at least i think. But FUCK APPLE u can buy any normal!pc, a Pi 4 or 5 or a cheap laptop. BANT! Linux monster initiated!
I actually did install one in a Mac. But I still don't like the hardware so much. I wish ThinkPad would make more removable battery notebooks 😭😭😭 otherwise they're perfect
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My Louis Rossmann Ultimate Apple Hater Playlist:
Why you should not buy Apple products.: th-cam.com/play/PLLQwKek0YsL8bqYkP0Y3VZaP-FvshSLjF.html
My reasons to not support Apple:
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Before anyone throws 💩my way: I'm not saying I support Windows, I just dislike Apple 1% more.
I honestly wouldn't even say I "hate" it, cause that is a very strong word. I use that word more for like stylistic reasons, if that makes sense...? But honestly, I don't lose any sleep over people and their preferred platforms. Do what you like. Just don't cry when they take away your ownership and charge you for it. And most importantly, don't impose your absence of need for said ownership on others like it's a virtue or something. Also: it's not a virtue to waste money on hardware you don't even understand. I am not excluding myself. I could probably do better than my ThinkPad. But I am not going around telling others that I'm so cool for owning one and that some other user is subhuman cause they don't recognize the unreached greatness of some unethical aluminum computer corporation for ages hipsters. Fuck Apple.
Totally agree !
I'd rather give my money to adobe or Microsoft than apple. Note I HATE Microsoft and adobe, which says something.
@@Timely-ud4rm Same here !
@@Louis-L186 I'm glad you agree! Do note I'd hate giving money to adobe or Microsoft as well but just saying I'd rather give money to them than apple.
If Linux did not exist. I would choose FreeBSD over Mac or Windows. If it weren't for games I would daily drive FreeBSD over Linux.
Me Too,Free BSD and Haiku will be my Acitivism.
I'm in love with everything you say here. I'm healing from surgery and really enjoyed smiling while hearing your takes on these topics. I use all systems , depending on the task but I have to agree the cringe felt when using a system thats designed solely to collect your data while Illuminating privacy that's a farce.
Thanks for sharing , hope to see more great stuff from this channel.
THIS! I stumbled into linux on desktop because my aging laptop was struggling -- and suddenly it was like brand new! Fast-forward I instituted Linux on all computers at my work and life is SO much easier. I am IT department for the whole thing and I can have a system up and running in minutes. I drag one folder of app-images onto it and everything is perfect, fully ready to go.
I am so glad to hear that! And isn't it nice how you can update your whole network with just a few remote lines??? Awwww :D Love that you get to work with it, awesome!
I thoroughly enjoyed your video, Undine. As someone who uses Linux, macOS, iOS, and Android (and Windows) regularly, I find each platform possesses its unique strengths and weaknesses. There are quite a few things in Linux and Android which I would love to see on iOS devices - specifically the sideloading feature in Android and flatpaks.
In a hypothetical world without Linux, I would imagine FreeBSD/OpenBSD would be the best alternative due to their open-source nature, assuming the absence of Linux also means no Android (there is a project that essentially is Android on x86) or Windows Subsystem for Linux. The preference for Windows over macOS in this scenario surprises me, since macOS appears to share more similarities with Linux than Windows, especially considering macOS is supposedly based on BSD.
I can empathize with the disapproval of Apple's business practices, particularly their pricing strategies for iOS and Mac devices, it doesn't help things with the integration of non-upgradeable RAM and SSDs in their laptops/desktops. This integration, coupled with some of the engineering decisions for the ARM-based Macs where there is a wear part that when it dies the Mac becomes essentially a paperweight since it doesn't allow for booting off a USB drive. This seems like odd considering how Apple pushes for environmental sustainability.
While Apple has historically been a trailblazer in the past, their more recent decisions are puzzling like the adoption of USB-C on their higher end iPads (and now all new iPads) while they stuck with their proprietary Lightning connector for the iPhone longer than they should. There are some of Apple's contributions that could be considered positive for everyone like their fork of KHTML as WebKit leading to the development of browsers like Chrome, Chromium, Edge, Vivaldi, Brave, and Opera.
Regarding the characterization of Steve Jobs as a dork I find it puzzling since his persona conveyed an extremely driven and adept businessperson, and not someone who is socially inept (at least judging the by the dictionary definition of a dork), if anything folks like Steve Ballmer or Bill Gates seem to fit that description.
Louis Rossmann does highlight a concerning trend in the relinquishment of ownership rights that we won't own anything, we won't be able to tinker with our stuff... and that we will like it. This trend is both frustrating and disheartening.
The brief discussion on prices for their devices reminds me when I bought my first MacBook Pro I paid around $2000 (1400 Euros), what's bananas is that a similar type of MacBook would set me back at least $3200. I do admit, poor engineering decisions aside that the performance of ARM-based Macs is pretty, especially with battery life.
While competition in the ARM-based laptop sphere is limited (the only ARM-laptop I am aware of is this one Lenovo one that are poor reviews), I am looking forward to the development of Snapdragon X Elite ARM-powered laptops. I wouldn't hesitate to purchase one of those laptops if they end up having upgradeable RAM and SSD.
With respect to software alone, I've used MacOS enough to know that I can tweak it to make it usable. Likewise, there's stuff like homebrew and continuity between command line applications I use on Linux. Realistically, all I really need for work is LaTeX, Mathematica, and Xournal++ to give lectures. Bear in mind I'm ignoring the ethics of each company and the hardware...ideally, I don't want to deal with either company, especially Microsoft.
I'd pick neither, the OpenSolaris forks are very usable, there's Illumos, or OpenIndiana which is based off Illumos, old style Gnome desktop, Linux refugees will feel right at home 🙂
oh, that's true! last time i used opensolaris is ages ago... :D but it was okay. we had it in uni
Have you ever considered Haiku, BSD or perhaps even Plan9?
Personally I am into FOSS mainly because it's in the long term the only thing around. All commercial software has a hidden expiriation date.. sooner or later all closed-source software will eventiuallyr be abandonded, or changed in ways you have no control over, or become ad ware, etc… Comercial software just doesn't last a lifetime
I’m a Linux and Windows user. It’s completely possible to like more than one OS at the same time.
Yes, I can like Debian and Arch, okay. 😆
@@UndineAlmani 😂
Maintain the Rage Undine! I'm with you in principle! :o
However, I'm still trying to Migrate to the Penguin Place after some time but every time something breaks (Dual Boot, File Server Access, Screen Freezes, Mail etc) or S/W just isn't available! Like a proper incremental external backup S/W system (TimeMachine) to B/U to a network NAS , Server etc! :/
So it's back and forth to the Orchard until these issues are resolved, if ever? :(
BTW: Zed's Dead! So Tim Cook is now Dork #1. Or could they now be referred to as Dumb & Dumber? ;)
FYI: The Metal casing is not just for looks and is functional! I have several MBP still running OK after 9-12 years! The case acts as a great Heat Sink so keeps the CPU etc cooler! But one's lap can get a bit Hot, so a Stable Table etc is necessary! :D
Regarding subscriptions. You own ur email server or what provider you have ?
i wish, i have no time to eat breakfast most days... so nope.. no email server. barely got time to make these videos -.- i use proton, but i am not to happy with it. email subscriptions for the blog are via mailchimp, cause that is the only free one that is half decent, but i guess i have to pick a different one...
I've been proudly running Linux for a bit more than 14 years now I think, and almost 18 without using Windows.
that is a long time! not bad :D i think i started in 2010... but kept windows for a bit and work-wise needed mac os occasionally... don't miss it. i only miss adobe. it was so neat. :///
i would prefer macos because it is based on unix and doesn't shout at me every 5 seconds to buy a microsoft office subscription. i feel that with windows you are more of the product than in macos
Tacos > Macos!
(Windows is cheaper though... I do get the "high end" kinda idea behind all the Apple products, but I am disappointed with them in terms of maintenance and support. With Windows, I kinda know that I am buying the bottom of the toilet, and expect nothing of it...)
@@UndineAlmani oh yeah I meant this comment to be seen as macos in a vacuum
I’m blind and have not had much luck with ORCA and braille support with Linux distributions. Accessibility wise VoiceOver from Apple with Braille has been my favorite. I also like that it’s Unix based. SSHing from Apple with accessibility setting to a server with Debian is my go to choice.
That's an extremely good point, sadly. I heard Molly Burke talk about this a while ago. I also tried Android solutions for read-aloud options myself, and they were so so bad... I don't know how anyone puts up with that without going insane. Do you have some sort of haptic feedback Braille interface or have I watched too much science fiction?
Does this imply that you'd prefer to invest your time and money in a Quest 3 rather than the Vision Pro?
Does it matter where I get migraines from?? 😭🙈😜
@@UndineAlmani touché! 😂
If my system breaks, I want to be resposible for it.
The best operating system is in Japan and it's your Casio calculator, independent, robust, and simple.
In einer Welt ohne Linux, würde es immer noch BSD geben, weil macOS historisch darauf basiert, also würde ich wahrscheinlich FreeBSD nehmen.
Never Apple, paying for a status symbol, no thanks. Never Windows. I’d rather go BSD.
In a world without Linux, I'd choose BSD, or Unix, or Haiku.
If it was really just Mac or Windows, I'd pick a new hobby, or learn to write an OS
i have never heard of haiku, sounds cool.
writing an os is horrible, i think. i've worked with c, c++ and .NET and oh boy... the main problem is that it is too much for one person at this point and that working with other people on an os is very hard. it's like a hospital building... an absolute miracle that not more people die :P
10:26 I've personally found firefox to be a lot more stable on windows than on linux, I'm currently on Debian 12 so i personally expected everything to play a bit nicer. I wouldn't be surprised if it was Nvidia drivers causing it, though.
Hm... Don't know cause I have no comparison, but in 12 it has been the most stable so far for me. I was using IceCat for a long time, I actually want to get away from Firefox again but I'm not sure what I'll do... The DRM shit is annoying
Between Apple and Windows i will choose two another Alternatives to my Computers - Google Desktop hack Android iso such Phoenix OS or another weird one,and FreeBSD,Free BSD or Solaris,Haiku,im a indie guy,that doesnt not looks like indie.
Linux exists, so i will use it. Windows is a disgusting violation of privacy and i hate it. Mac OS is just as bad.
Their shit is ad ridden too now on top of it and they're both scanning files in the cloud and Apple apparently even offline ?? 🙄
If I did have to pick between the 2 in the case Linux didnt exist I would pick Mac simply cause Windows will just have issues constantly whereas I wont have the same ones using Mac. If the other non linux systems still existed im sure one of those would be the one of choices instead.
FreeBSD is great but with limited hardware and software support depending on contexts
Yup, had to subscribe.. Clickbait worked indeed
Hey hey happy update installed CalyxOS on my FP4 :D. Tho had some real trouble trying to do that on windows and i gave up (ofc its windows and 1000000 of drivers u need). Opened up my old thinkpad x200 with linux and flashed it in 30 minutes. Literally 3-4 commands and few preparations to do and thats it :D
That is cool! And crazy... wtf with the drivers...like for what? Filesystems? Duh... Glad it worked! Awesome!
I'm tired of tinkering (I can - but why? To feel superior or what?) . Countless AOSP custom ROMs - countless self built PCs and Hackintoshes (of course all with Linux) which are as obsolete and worthless after a few years as other stuff. Stacks of superfluous SSDs, MoBos, RAM-bricks wasting space in my lab ... Countless hours of compensating non integrated hard and software with ducktape like remedies... use mostly Macs nowadays (bought refurbished or second hand) to save precious life span time. UTM for Linux VMs... I select my technics for my usecases - not for some ideology or because it is not "repairable" or a ominous freedom ... The illusion that same detachable parts give you the control back is pure marketing of companies trying to sell you RAM after RAM or GPU after GPU costing as much as a complete new computer.
And btw: Linux runs on nearly every Mac nowadays...
And Android without the Orwellian Google services is crippled. Been there done that.
I agree with you regarding Windows ... Put that into the garbage bin a decade ago.
And Clouds? They are other people's computers ...
I don't know, I hardly need to do any manual tweaking on my Debian, it's a "just works" distro imo. To set up another system to do what I want, it takes 2 weeks. Like e.g. removing all the services off of WIndows. And after a patch or one of their idiotic security updates, it's all gone again. Let alone "I like it better" things like just the way their fucking stupid desktops look. To me (!) none of it is practical, it keeps me from being efficient. So that is why at this point, I would not want to go back to either.
The hardware thing I get. I disagree about the parts though. Being able to take out the battery can save you. Being able to replace modules that are prone to wear: the same. Just from repairing literally everything I own all the time, this is a fallacy I'd say. You can take it out easily and get a spare part: that's a car. Anything should really be like that or it is rubbish. It's the property of cheap shit to not open.
And the clouds... well, I do not want my files scanned for anything, let alon SeCUriTY... no thanks. My tax files can stay up there encrypted, okay. And some irrelevant photos for the aunties who don't know how to open an email but whatsapp links work... that, okay.
And about Google, well I did run 2 google-free phones. Not comfy, especially the camera app and keyboard. Depends on how hard you want it. And I think a big part of that is that people don't actually get how bad those datamining big corporations are. A lot of us, even tech-savvy people, just think "oh well, what do I have on there anyway?" but that's really a shitty mindset imo. I don't even want to be called on my day off, let alone give my boss the keys to my apartment. But trust a company with my unencrypted files? Really? You can say you don't care, but that's like saying you don't want to wear a condom with a total stranger, like "trust me bro". And then they fuck you over. nahhhh thanks XD
@UndineAlmani Desktops? Can't remember the last time I exchanged a part after the assembly. Three years ago perhaps? Phones? the newest runs for three years now. Watch? Three years and hopefully a few more. The oldest iPhone retired after 10 years, the oldest macbook is stil in use after 13 years with the first battery at 90%. Runs the newest system thanks to OpenCore. Ok, I overheated a old iMac running Linux after 8ish years - was recycled. Strangely enough all "repairable" computers are gone now (or wasting space waiting to be potentially cannibalized), the Macs and iPads are still there.
Fairphones? Tried that. No way to add 5G, only cameras. No enterprise certification, sadly. Case? Never had a broken phone case in the last 20 years or need to change the battery. Nice tinker marketing to feel good about being "environment friendly" ...
Thank you for your long answer and despite the different view angles I like your channel ;-)
Windows is quite an "exotic" Frankenstein-ish OS mix with subsystems, a "registry" (a camouflaged Access database !!11!!) and drive letters ... and not at all unixoid with it's crippled command shell (don't mention "powershell" please), Apple ist very unix-like especially on the console. Install Homebrew (also for Linux) and some other tools and it is quite comfortable in that regard.
Or use qemu/UTM for near native speed VMs if that is not enough. So the debate is not as silly as you think.... If one must choose (blame the companies we work for with their duck syndrome!) I reluctantly choose Apple any time.
In the UX i'd prefer Apple, but really i'd definetly use windows, it grants way more freedome. Not as much as and not as straightforward as linux, but way more than apple, like the simple fact i can still build my own computer and there is even an "IoT-Core" Windows for Raspberry Pi and a (more or less) Proper Server variant, etc.
A world without Linux would result in the invention and implementation of time travel to go back and fix it. Take this, dumb Multiverse! :-)
I would like to run apple hardware M# cpu/gpu using Linux. It is still too early for me to make the dive into it. Software wise, I really like windows 11 over Mac OS.
I will go back to my Atari.....'no blue screen'
macOS with homebrew for the win
I do use Debian for all my homelab stuff
Consider yourself lucky if you can choose any OS for your job. There’s so many professions where the required software is either Windows only or Mac only. FOSS is great, but there’s so many niches where there aren’t professional level apps, and then the OS you choose is entirely dependent on what platform those apps run on.
I could not choose in any company I worked, some software yes, but never the OS. In Uni, I put Linux on my Mac computer though, cause I mean, what were they going to do lol? Technically I could've written my thesis on paper :D
I actually think in R&D we could do with Linux. But people want Microsoft Teams and other useless shit (just use Jitsi ffs...) and pay for it because they think then the company who made the software owes them something... although irl the support is usually crap anyway and if you got an outtage you're doomed and your data is gone, but "theoretically they are liable":.. my experience: nothing good comes off paying for software ever, unless the software is really top tier and therefore "worth it". but security wise, not really
100%, its windows or windows since we dev in Visual Studio, and VSCode is not suitable yet :(
to be fair, my ideal laptop is a macbook, running linux. I use linux at work for 6-7 years now, and starting with next upgrade I will use it for my gaming rig as well. I hated all the telemetry, I hated all the ads in the OS, the online account but AI spyware was the last drop, so linux it is for gaming. For my laptop, I do think I will get an M4 macbook air and just put Asahi on it. I mean show me better hardware at less then 1600 grams.
For sure: Apple ❤ Additionally some good PAPER notebooks.
paper notebooks as in real notebooks and apple for eating? then i second that :D
@@UndineAlmani nothing beats unorganised written ideas and notes that can virtually live on
nice save, im really very much a cat person :)
It would be a very sad world, but I would pick Windows of course. Paying for a personalized Unix that you can have for free and forcing you to use it in - to me - completely illogical ways, in a machine that you paid 3 times the price of an equivalent one just because of "design", is just criminal. Microsoft is not better in a lot of ways, but at least I don't have to be their cash cow in the first place, and I can disable all their attempt to make me one with a bit of work.
that is one of the main reasons for me too. i hate seeing windows going down the ecosystem cloud shit route, but i tried mac os many times, mostly work-related, and sometimes i needed to look at it when collaborating with people, and each time i was just appalled. lol, almost wrote appled. >_> mostly because there is just no way to make this system do anything you want right away, everything feels like so much work. i don't need a system that constantly wants to redirect me to "what is better for me"... same for windows since 10. the whole navigation is just ewwww.
the thing is, i am really wondering though about alternative windows versions. e.g. police in germany is using windows, but not the "normal windows", they have a custom system. i just don't know what exactly, as i only know that from someone who actually held software education classes for the police. but i wonder if that could not be a possible thing for windows, to provide actually better more personalized versions of windows to companies. similar to sap, but working instead of making you miserable XD
Because of my job I have to work with all systems at some point, I would say that I hate using Apple more than Windows..
From work, I'd agree... Mostly because of compatibility issues. Like wtf is that ecosystem bullshit and why does Microsoft start doing this too...? Along with the subscription crap?
@@UndineAlmani I honestly couldn't live in a world without Linux LOL
Linux is Open Source, that is correct... But the biggest contributors are e.g. Huawei(!), Samsung, Nvidia, Intel, Google, Microsoft, IBM ... some of the biggest privacy and data protection violators on the planet...
biggest contributers in what way? number of files? where?
i dont mind win xp or 7, but i absolutely hated win 8. i always thought apple products were way over priced.
they are... and there were a lot of scammy ones too, like (1) few innovative changes from one model to the next or (2) the mac mini failures (getting hot if you open more than 3 browser tabs) and (3) the fact that they make their products hard to repair and want users to believe it is for security
i@@UndineAlmani i had the misfortune of having to set up a mac at work the other day and its terrible. no real boot menu or bios and it didn't like my mx linux cd i put in it. I've heard of people running linux on macs but i'd much rather have a dell or really any other but mac.
Why not FreeBSD?
cause it doesn't make good clickbait >_> (honestly though, this was just a spontaneous "oh, i had this stupid random video idea" kinda video)
@@UndineAlmani So I probably say Windows cause Apple are not very open-source friendly. I alredy run a Windows 10 VM when a need a software not available on Linux. Most of the time it's because un client use it. For my personnal use, I use only open-source software.
No Android without Linux, so Android x86 is out!
I think we're taking software/operating systems way too seriously to the point where we treat it like religion. I used to be the same until recently.
In my opinion, operating systems are simply tools and that's how they should be treated. My PC is mainly used to run video games, so I have Windows on it. I know gaming is good on Linux with Proton, but it is not as good, and after my 8-10h a day as a developer, I don't want to tweak my system to just get a game running.
Otherwise I'd for sure use Linux, because it fits 100% of my any other scenario. I don't really see the point of MacOS tbh, it is the worst of both worlds.
I think Apple were the ones who started the cult shit. All the other ones are tools. But in terms of privacy, I don't really think that any of the commercial OSs is still an option today. Not with massive tweaking. And if I need to put more work into it than a Debian installation, I can install a Debian... I think the issue I have with Apple today is mostly their ecosystem bullshit aka their weird little incompatiblity olympics. And I dislike the way the company just drives up prices for mediocre hardware. The idea to bind your icky deficient software to hardware in the first place (same goes for windows phone and similar stuff) is just idiotic to me. Any modern platform should be as device-independent or cross-device-able and as versatile as possible.
I knew privacy would be mentioned at this point and there is no doubt that Linux based OSes are generally collecting less/no data.
However, in the words of Mental Outlaw, the biggest black pill is "embrace digital minimalism". A year and more back I used to talk to people about Linux and privacy but then I realized a few things:
- I have another device tracking my every step at all times - the smartphone
- No matter how private my PC OS is, I still depend on an ISP to get internet access
- If I use a VPN, gotta trust that VPN company, and trusting a company doesn't sound that legit; guess I could use Tor, but nothing I do on my tech warrants that and the loss of convenience is too big
- Hell, I'm here on TH-cam with my driver's license attached to my account to be verified as over 18 so I can watch horror let's plays
- Even if you have privacy ironed out, you're only as private as the least private friend or family member
Point is not to say privacy is impossible to achieve or you shouldn't care, I personally don't have Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok etc.
I just believe there are other, more pragmatic ways to uphold privacy:
- Try not to do stuff that you don't want to be recorded with or around your tech (embrace digital minimalism)
- Don't have cameras and mics senselessly connected around you at all times
- Keep an eye on the law - look for and participate in law initiatives regarding data protection
All that long block of text to say is, I won't mind Windows as long as it stays out of my way. If they continue installing Disney and Candy Crush Saga apps to my PC or pushing ads that I can't avoid, I'm throwing it out the window (Windows, ironically, not my PC)
Can't use Linux? The only other solid choice is BSD
I feel well and truly reprimanded for using macOS after 15 years of using Linux 😔😄
What happened? Did someone force you? 😱 Blink twice if you need rescue!
@@UndineAlmani Slept walked into it. I bought an iPhone, my son gifted me a Mac, plus I have a Mac for work... I'm a software engineer (backend) so most of my time I'm mostly SSH'ing into Linux boxes. I still have and use my personal Linux machines... I'm trying to absolve myself 😀
I'm now suffering with cognitive dissonance 😁... What am I doing?!?!
@sto3359 omg I feel that. I don't know man .... I don't know... When I had to work with Linux I tried to make it more Linuxy, installed all my FOSS, tweaked it, but was never happy...
i pick macOS cause its BSD based and I quite like Darwin a lot as it is much like FreeBSD and im a bsd nerd lol.... but yeah i also own a mac m1 but i dont even use it anymore i had it for 4 years now... it just sits on a desk the living room since i got my beelink 5800h mini pc i use fedora 40 on it and thats all i use ... in the living room :P
Also several people have pointed out that Steve Jobs got cools tuff built by being a real jerk to his people. Woz seems like a cool friendly dude.
idk about that but it would fit the vibe i guess
I choose death.
🤣
I just made it into this video halfway. I've coded, I've designed, I've played, I prefer macOS to Windows. There are so many ways to interact with or create things while being respectful. While some aspects can't be denied, like aspects of privacy, freedom of choice etc., I would say thinking of Apple computers being designed for noobs is condescending and just wrong (that's comparable to the idea that graphical user interfaces are designed for morons or something, which is just as idiotic). I can't tell if any system of the two is objectively better than another, but I can tell you how experience with some products is influenced by lots of factors. If you really wanted people to do the right thing (supporting sustainability in various ways for example), you'd not be talking this way. You'd put emphasis on this being your opinion and offer a way to understand what you're talking about for people who might be currently locked into thinking Apple is the holy grail or something. There definitely are people who praise Apple for really anything, even if it's just their marketing (referring to the example of carbon neutrality marketing, which is or will be banned in the EU I think). Though I still think it's important to have an entity that, even if primarily for economic purposes, drives the attention and industry towards sustainability (of course in a way that actually benefits the world we live in). Not sure if Apple is a follower or a leader in that aspect at that size of a company. I'm not sure why people feel the need to irrationally act like Apple is the worst company of them all, until something pops up that supports that claim. It's sadly only natural that the more pieces are involved, the higher the probability for something to go wrong (talking about the amount of people, places etc. a company works with; there's a need for scrum masters after all). You could project that scheme onto anything and be right at some point in time. If I take a look at Gamers Nexus, Linus tech Tips or any other media, I will eventually find something wrong with almost anything they talk about, based on perspective. But I am willing to focus on putting positivity out there, while also enabling people to support each other and fuelling creative ways to combat issues we are living with. Depending on the impact of the actions of a CEO, you'd of course be right to tell others not to get something from a company. I personally am definitely not fine with the way Apple handles some things, but I am in line with their voice and power to change industries (apart from anything that only stems from greed, such as high profit margins). But I will take a look at the playlist you linked in your comment. It's of course the responsibility of people to inform themselves about good and rather bad aspects of things they use, for consumption and other things. But I'd like to know what you would want to say in response to my comment. Happy to learn. 😄 Oh, and if there's something that may come across as unkind, please make me aware and be sure it is not my intention. I know I may come across as an Apple noob (if you want to put it that way) based on my tone, which could be interpreted as being protective about Apple. Just know I am only interested in finding a kind but constructive way, not unnecessarily saying something positive because I want it to be positive. Looking forward to learn.
I don't know how this comment got so long. i think it is bc first I was mad, then I thought: no, don't be mad, you're just tired, and tried to write it more friendly... well oops.
Partly disagree... Apple imo virtually feeds off of noobs at this point. I mean, maybe it was not initially (like decades ago) designed to target noobs (it was though, kind of... let me think... they wanted to make the interface more human-ish, communicative, friendly... idk, man). But anyway, today, they absolutely are doing this. The fact alone that it is so cult-ish... Things like motivating people to go for a 0.2mm thinner product each year? (That is a thing, still... oh, and their stupid stores and the way they hire people there, the ageism and shit, eww...) Or just think of any iPhone or iPad. Those are noob products. As in: >price and
@@UndineAlmani Good evening! Don’t be mad. Maybe I got something wrong. Will find out when I read you whole reply and reflect in the video again. I’ll be reading you reply tomorrow. But, if I can’t reply before the weekend, have a nice one! We all get worked up for nothing sometimes. Not saying this is the case here, but I think you get what I mean. Don’t spend too much time dwelling on my comment, wasn’t meant in evil spirit. 🤗
@@UndineAlmani So, here’s my answer:
First, I’ve no intention of causing bad feelings. So, if you feel like you’re not in the mood, don’t mind. I didn’t want to cause bad feelings. Also, don’t worry, I just wanted to put my thoughts out there. I’m not mad at you or anything. Oh, and just because I felt the need to check the video a bit for the following part, I’m not an Apple simp or sheep, thehe. I use Windows, btw. 😄 No, I really do, although it’s just for playing games. Anyway, here goes:
What you suggested is Apple designing products for noobs, if I’m correct (just not referencing the video right now as that’d take too much time, so I hope you understand). That is true for any company, because companies are interested in getting more people to use their product. Buuuut, I might be in the wrong, I got to know the term „noob“ as something rather negative, in contrast to „newbie“. But in that case, or in any, it was rather the way you talked for me, which made me write my comment. Man, I hadn’t even finished the video because I lacked the time. 😄 But I have now. But now, since Jony Ive left, the products haven’t been about thinness, I think. And, oh, am I happy about that. The company has been focused on the M-series etc. Well, they seem to be going for AI (based on what I read), which I’m not the greatest fan of. I just hope they demonstrate responsible behaviour, not like others ripping off artists ans stuff. That’s another topic. 😄 Anyway, I understand what you’re saying. Though I still think it’s harsh to suggest Apple designs for noobs when their products are used by professionals everyday, just like I use them to do my work. If we lived in a society with a different standard regarding the use of technology, there’d probably be more systems designed like Windows or Linux (which doesn’t really have one design I think, in terms of UI), maybe completely different interfaces, maybe no screens at all, who knows. You know, I’m just honestly a little annoyed by all the down talk regarding Apple products. I love criticism, don’t get me wrong. I just love seeing things develop, just like I used to when I kind of put „my own“ custom ROM together, you know, like editing the build.prop file in order to put the status bar at the bottom of the screen or something in Android Gingerbread. Back then I hated Apple from the depths of my heart, even tried to mock Apple users online, which was toxic as hell. No, I’m not thinking of you as someone like that. It’s just that when I switched to Apple devices, I realised how seriously troubling the situation about just using what you use is. In all the time using Apple products, I’ve only come across people telling me I’d be an idiot for using them or how Apple products are a scam etc. But I have discovered, apart from some obvious critical points like the price (storage for example, apart from other things to be criticised), they just aren’t bad like some people want or think them to be. That whole experience changed a lot for me. There’s a lot more I could add here, but I think that’s enough for now.
Now, I think it is preposterous, for the lack of a better word right now, to say that people who can afford Apple products have the time (resources) or even the intention (resources) to go for something else, potentially more privacy focused. Lots of people just go with what they have already learned to deal with. And many can’t afford to spend the time studying another product in a way that gets them where they want to go. It’s just not something you should assume. It’s also not right to assume that people who code would prefer Windows. That greatly depends on what people do. Now, I know of Linux being literally everywhere. And it’s often open source, which is a great reason. I’m just not really fine with some of the assumptions you put out there (iOS not intuitive, efficiency on Android etc.).
The way you talked was „I hate Apple“ (looking for a reason to be valid), but then going for „then I found Rossman, who supports what I have felt so far“. That, to my ears, does not sound like someone who wants to let others know, in a serious manner, what they prefer. No, that’s rather the opposite. The title even asks which you would go for, not how much you can convey how you dislike one thing. I hope you understand what I mean. It feels more like a rant, less than an opinion. Just one thing before ending this comment: I don’t intend to criticise your use or your stance on Apple. I just wanted to make you aware of the way you phrased your thoughts, which would suggest you think of Apple users as noobs in general, you know.
You know, one reason I have subscribed your channel is that I think you seem to be a cool person. And nothing here changed that. Disagreements are alright. I aim to challenge my views all the time. But that’s also the reason I comment some videos. Sometimes to my benefit, sometimes not. And I think your comment helps me to understand your view a bit more. So, thank you for that so far! 😀
But I’m greatly interested in the reason you dislike Scrum. Because I actually benefitted from it. So, if you feel like it, tell me more! Other than that, thank you for taking the time to respond! Because, you know, you don’t have to. Remember that. I don’t want you to feel bad. Just as a reminder and to be sure: If anything I said in this comment comes across as rude, let me know. Sorry for mentioning this often. I know how comment sections can get heated rather quickly. Despite having funny takes as well, I want to avoid that. 😄 Again thank you both for your time and effort!
In the video you say you hate Windows 1% less and in the video description you mention that you dislike Apple 1% more. Now I'm confused 🤔
lol, I wrote the description a long time after I filmed the video, so I probably forgot what I said. 🤣
@@UndineAlmanilol I was kidding you there😆You're saying essentially the same in both cases, albeit with a tiny difference which is purely mathematical
@ne0ne0 Only if hate and dislike are defined the same way 😆. It really lacks precision lol
Windows any day of the week
Cholera is a solid pick ! 😁
Don’t give your kids a screen as entertainment. Let them play outside and in trees. It will be much better for your kids, unless they are stupid 😂
I just don't want to guarantee that someone's indoor kid won't fall off a tree and break their neck and then it's "This TH-camr told me to let them outside" 🙈😬🙈
Ok, now do gnome...
lol i Love Linux id use windows before a mac tough lol
ChromeOS
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FreeBSD anyone?
Virtually everyone 😅☕👍🏼
Freebsd or Openbsd if i can choose ir not, Apple over Windows
u can install Linux on some macs. on the M1s the FOSS community has reversed engineered the hardware and u have Asahi linux. Not a daily driver i think. but mac is based off on FreeBSD so its the mosr unix like in terminals at least i think. But FUCK APPLE u can buy any normal!pc, a Pi 4 or 5 or a cheap laptop. BANT! Linux monster initiated!
I actually did install one in a Mac. But I still don't like the hardware so much. I wish ThinkPad would make more removable battery notebooks 😭😭😭 otherwise they're perfect