Peter's mom is honestly reaching. I find Maddison really wise for not wanting to commit to something so sudden and actually wanting to give it chance but not jump to a marriage
@@ialwaysbesingin her decision was wise, that's all I'm saying... I would never marry someone after 6 or 7 dates, 'cauee it's a serious commitment not a game. If she is wise in any other level or circumstance I don't know, but her decision was reasonable.
Okay but if you sign up for the show you know that the end result is going to be a proposal, so we why would you sign up if you weren’t going to be ready to say yes for the proposal in the end
Chris H revealed that Madi was completely blindsided on how much Barb hated her, so she was getting to know about this for the first time along with everyone else. I cant imagine how she must've felt at the time, to be managing this new relationship and having to hear the mother of her partner say such crap on live tv
aminaf6 hmm not sure if shes lying or if shes this dense. that last convo at the house between maddison and barb was anything but friendly...barb's hatred was very clear. maddison is good at playing dumb tho
The fact that Barbara said “Dir algo malo ayúdame” meaning “say something bad too help me out” to her husband says enough about her and her mindset she’s only thinking about herself
MADISON has a podcast now called Staying True and it’s sooo good! Specifically she does an episode about the show and kind of tells all about her experience. It’s really good!
And you know the most annoying thing about the three hours it was peters fault as well as Madison, why is she making it as if it was Madison who didn’t want to come out. They where both having a serious conversation about their relationship. God this woman is so annoying
@@princeike9001 having learned more about the situation, i now know it was most likely the first time since her overnight date that they were allowed together to discuss it (producer interference). Now Mom knows the inconveniences the contestants go through all the time!
I feel bad for Madison because we don’t get to hear the full context she wants to share and she constantly gets cut off by the audience or just someone else. I really wanted to hear what Madison had more to say on this subject.
i highly doubt she could even articulate herself. try listening to her talk all season "like, it's like...i don't know like...you know what i mean, like"
I’m raising my daughters with the same morals Madi was raised. If any potential “mother in law” ever speaks to my girls like this, I’d lose my mind. I can’t imagine Madi’s parents watching this. They’re too classy to say anything publicly. Her dad must be livid. I’m glad they ended things before they even started. She deserves so much better.
Barb will never accept Madison, and if they manage to stay together, Barb will make their lives a living HELL! I know. I had a mother-in-law just like her. Notice, I said had...past tense. Madison needs to go find a nice Christian man who will appreciate and understand her.
Kana Michelle my mother didn’t come to my wedding but today she loves my husband and our kids. I think I need to stop watching the bachelor because it bothered me so much. Barb knew she was on TV, what is she like off camera?
Exactly, I am Hispanic, so obviously I speak Spanish and the mother said to Peter's father "help me, please say something" and that's when his father spoke. It gave me pity but at the same time I realized that she is pressing the situation And that's not right. He is not a baby
He a type of man you don't want to date! He a big talker and can't trust him and mother still holding on to his ball. He can't even stand up for him self
The fact that he defended his mom at first and then proceeded to defend Madison. If he was serious about her, he would have cut it off as soon as it started.
When Peter's dad was speaking, his wife said to her husband in Spanish "say something wrong and help me out" that women is not a good person, she is bigile and very crafty with her words, and likes to control people.
And by the way BARB YOU ALREADY MET MADI LIKE TWO MONTHS AGO AND YOU LOVED HER SO I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN NOW AND THE TWO MONTHS YOU HAD TO WAIT TO MEET MADI AGAIN
Maria Elizabeth Durham You expect Madison to force an engagement? Y’all do know dating outside of the franchise is an option. His mom needs to calm down
@@Ash_Queen16 would you want some woman to sit in your face and say that she doesn't love your son when you know your son has strong feeling for that person
Ashley Scott nobody was asking her to force an engagement. that would be like comparing it to cassie/colton where she just wasn’t ready for an engagement but they were otherwise compatible and loved each other. it’s the fact that not only did madi say she doesn’t love her son but they are also wildly incompatible so barb probably saw that even if they tried to work things out post bachelor things probably wouldn’t work. madi realized that too and voluntarily left shortly after. chris harrison also said that ATFR is where madi found out the true extent of barb’s disdain for her so i don’t think barb is the reason she left.
But I do agree with Madison’s point on this show being everyone’s journey to find their significant other rather than just the protagonist bachelor or bachelorette
@@squidney1025 He didn't say "disgusted" and so what...What does what Chris thinks or says have to do with Barb's truth vs Madison's truth? They both have control issues.
I would be mortified if my son was clueless enough to sleep with whoever was willing on national tv!!! Then along comes a girl with discipline enough to stay strong and this woman , who is repellant in every way, hates madison , voices it on national tv and is proud of it! Madison, thank you for fleeing!
Unpopular opinion: I think barb has valid points and I completely agree with her. I think her execution might have been too direct but I feel it was still the truth nonetheless..
MADISON has a podcast now called Staying True and it’s sooo good! Specifically she does an episode about the show and kind of tells all about her experience. It’s really good!
Chris Harrison said it was Peters decision as much as Maddie to have that long conversation PLUS production takes a while to set up too! It’s not going to work BECAUSE YOUR NOT BEING A SUPPORTIVE FAMILY! Ugh 😑
A K Did you miss the part where she said she was not there to talk bad to or about his family!? SHE WAS BITING HER TOUNGE NOT TO SAY MORE BECAUSE IT WAS NOT THE TIME AND PLACE! Something barb should have done! I’m just proud of her for not telling her what an evil woman she is for embarrassing her own son on NATIONAL TV! Geez
The biggest problem is that they met on the bachelor. Madison’s parents should be worried that he proposed to another girl because their daughter rejected him. I think his parents realize that.
It's funny how everyone mad at his mother but she said what is true any woman that keeps walking away from you doesn't love you sorry you fight even if something's go wrong this girl leaves when she doesn't get what she wants if she can tell your mother that she doesn't love your son then i understand where his mother is coming from she has to deal with his parents the same way he has to deal with hers like come on now
No, I won't agree, because if they are TRULY INLOVE, Then they need to FIGHT whatever obstacles they have, That is called TRUE LOVES! True Love can move a mountain. ;-)
I said it once and I'll say it once more-- Barb spoke of being a spiritual person herself (during her conversation with Madison), but then turned around and made an attempt to break Madison's spirit- on live television. I'm not sure how the two go hand-in-hand.
Mom stop meddling. It’s your son’s life not yours. He’s not 18 years old. For Maddie, run for your life away from the Weber’s family. I’m glad Hanna Ann is out of Peter’s life. Barb as a mom couldn’t handle things properly but really poorly. She has no class and finesse. I’m a mom too married to my husband for over 43 years. I’m a catholic and my husband is a Protestant and we’re still together.
Thanks for saying the truth. I am a Mother of four and l cannot treat any of my child like that, instead l will encourage, pray and support them in whatever decision they make.
Wholeheartedly agree. My husband is Catholic, I’m Presbyterian. We have 2 children baptized in Presbyterian church tho. That was my husbands idea. We are happily married 37 yrs. Both girls married. And grew up attending a Mass or a Service. It can work. It really opens your eyes to really love all around you. 💜💛✝️
Well I'm a mother with twin boys too and I could see she is a spoiled brat with her behaviour. Look at her very closely. She's very disrespectful! We she her to be good because of what the producers made us see. If we should dig deep for the whole story we all will see the type of Person Madison really is. The fact that she's a virgin, spiritual, and has certain standards doesn't make her an angel in character! I wouldn't condone Barbs behaviour but for a mother who loves her sons very much to hear a woman say she doesn't lover her son and later comes back to say otherwise is a red flag. If u loved him u would have stayed. Barbs was right with what she said but the message was presented in a bad way. Madison is not a saint either!
His mom does not want to lose. She wants to be right even if she hast to tell her son she knows it’s going to fail. Boy that’s a mother-in-law to avoid.
Very uncomfortable watching "Barb" (who loves her son ,so much) hurt her son in a strong way. What could have been said off camera was aired for everyone. I respect she has an opinion but I was just wondering if she was affected by medication or alcohol .
I have a mother in law just like her. Women like her and my mother in law their whole identity is being a mother so they don’t know what to do when their children (especially sons) grow up and they feel like the woman that they’ve chosen has taken her place but what they don’t realise is all they do is push their son away.
I’ve been married for almost 5 years and my relationship with my mother-in-law is not the best and we basically tolerate one another for the sake of her only child-my husband. But I will say this, Barb makes my mother-in-law look good 🥴
See this is my thing, you and her tolerate each other because you both love him. Barb isn't going to tolerate Madi even if her son begs her....its soo sad.
So at 3:55 when they ask for peter’s dad option , Barb blurs out in Spanish “come on say something, help me..” this woman loves and thrives control and is the definition of a narcissistic manipulator..
I dont know about you guys but that thing Madi was doing with her mouth, I do it too but not from being nervous. I do that if I am angry and feel insulted and defeated but trying really hard not to cry, i literally cant even speak without bursting into tears so i just do exactly what she was doing and just look down. That would have been my reaction in this situation but I think I wouldn't have been able to hold it all in till the end, you would have seen tears for sure😭😭😭
i noticed that too -- and i dont think its from drinking cause she doesn't drink alcohol. i think like she said -- she was too heartbroken to eat. it was a lot of weight she dropped
Guilty conscience, that is all. Madison is a naive hypocrite. There is zero understanding of love from either of them. Barb may have flapped her jaw, but she is absolutely right. No way those two will make it as a couple. No way.
During the home visit Madi was not warm or overly connecting with the family. If she is a virgin or whatever and the mom knows her son is not the mom was just being real and honest. Maddie didn't say that she loved him to the mom but Hannah did. I somewhat understand Mom's side . Even tonight Nadi was not attempting to win over mom. This relationship is doomed
His mom needs to speak for herself. She kept saying my husband, the whole family, and friends, when she tried to make a point. Why does she have to drag other people into this? She can’t even let her poor husband give his opinion, other than herself. This is a big ego and selfishness. I just wonder where the compromise in her own marriage is; it seems like she is just the controller of her own marriage.She was so negative toward Madison and judged her cause she had her standards and morals. I guess she wanted someone to be subjugated under her son’s fleshy desires. That is a real disappointment. That was very awkward vibe for Maddy. If I were Maddy, I would have called it all quits.
The mom said something in Spanish to the dad when he was going to speak. Did you guys hear that? “Di algo mal, ayudame” which translates to “say something bad, help me” 😮🤭🤯
Dang. Did all they anti-Barb commenters watch the show? Madison is def no heroine in this story! That Madison has even tried to package the vitriol against her as clapback on her "morals & values" is SO disingenuous, it's ridiculous. The fact is, Madison had ALL season to communicate her standards, expectations, virginity, religious beliefs, etc. but instead, waited until the 11th hour. Further, she 100% knew what the show was about & where it was headed. It was her last-minute edicts that threw everything into a tailspin for all remaining parties. I think she's bullsh*t & Barb was onto her all the way.
Madison hasn't gone through nothing she did not want to go through. I saw right through her early on. This woman has some type of motive. It will reveal itself sooner or later, watch.
He and his brother are two grown men. They were still living at home and their mother was all up in their business. If Pete doesn’t grow up and grow a pair his mommy is going to make sure that he stays a bachelor.
Cassie Downey to be fair, Barb took it too far. Most parents wouldn’t embarrass their son and the person their son loves like this on live tv in front of millions... of Chris Harrison said he was appalled by Barbs behavior. She took it too far and is Madi really that bad? Come on.
See Barb is right that there are lots of differences between them but going so far as to say “he’s gonna have to fail to succeed” is heart breaking and honestly annoying. Because then it isn’t about him and his heart and his relationship, it’s about proving his mom right or wrong. You don’t have to agree with his choice but at least respect it and know that it is his own.
My mom is a bit like Barb. She just decides she’s not going to like a person I’m dating and is pretty horrible to him. It’s caused many issues between is. Even now, years later, she will refer to one of my boyfriends, “That horrible man”. I have never been able to convince her to give them a chance.
ya I think it's a habit that she doesn't even realize. Looks like she always has food stuck in her teeth and she feels the need to take it out or something lol plus that lip pursing every 2 secs
It’s horrible how Barb treated Madison. However, why is Madison smiling when Barb is talking? Kind of disrespectful. She also interrupted. I feel she should have apologized about having them wait and maybe told them that she hopes that they can have a relationship in the future. It just seemed a little back and forth rather than resolving issues.
Theyre both wrong.. to make your in law wait 3hrs to meet you is wrong.. shouldve told them to get some rest first so you can ease the nerves.. i mean at least apologize.. didnt your mom tell you any better.. i understand Madison has high standards, she shouldve signed up to be a bachelorette not for the bachelor lol
She isn’t the In-law. She’s a potential in-law. There’s a difference. Although yes you are right that it’s rude to intentionally have someone wait that long
Jenna Denjern what show are you watching !? She wanted the best for her son. She saw Madison as a flake. And Hanna Ann as firm and loving of her son. Any mother that loves their child wants security for that child. Duh. Feelings flee but love stays.
Maybe it’s just me but I’m on barbs side. Even if she did spill a little too much info, people wanted to know more on why she felt the way she did so she let everyone know but still it wasn’t good enough. I think what Madison did was not okay at all and the fact she still didn’t say sorry doesn’t look good.
Omg Barb this is your sons life not yours. You step in and you will lose him! I know that for a fact! It is his life let him live it! He makes a mistake be there for him! If not and they move forward, be there for him.
I think Barb wanted Hanna Ann for herself. That .......bring her home to us (while she cried with all her TOXIC DRAMA) ANYONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD STAY AWAY FROM THAT.......
This is the craziest thing!!! I could totally understand if Madison’s parents were against them dating but Peters? 🤯 OMG MY SON MIGHT CHANGE FOR THE BETTER!
Barb is the type of woman who will also want to pick the names of her grandchildren
X not just that, she’ll decide how they’re gonna raise the kids too
..or try and "raise" the grandchildren HER way! Ugh. Old bat!
@@azmialin ABSOLUTELY! My thoughts to a t!
Lol
Pete needs to make use of being a pilot and take a one way flight away from Mom.
Barb is every girl's nightmare from hell mother in law 💀
No, barb is the mother who's gonna breastfeed her son till death.
Unless you're Hannah Ann!
Saif Sohail she loved Hannah ann
His mommy is going ruin any relationship he gets in
She is Exactly like my monster in law
Peter's not done sleeping around and we dont want that to change. Its who he is. -Barb
Mark A. Exactly. It’s so obvious
Such a demeaning statement to make about her own child. People change. Sometimes based on the company they keep. Madison could be that company.
😂😂👋👋
Lucinda Hoy Exactly!
Lucinda Hoy June
Peter's mom is honestly reaching. I find Maddison really wise for not wanting to commit to something so sudden and actually wanting to give it chance but not jump to a marriage
Julia Vittória Exactly!! Recently these seasons on the Bachelor, Bachelorette, and BIP couples chose the option to date before getting engaged.
You find a girl who says “like” every other word and can barely string a full sentence along wise? Ok then 🙄
@@ialwaysbesingin her decision was wise, that's all I'm saying... I would never marry someone after 6 or 7 dates, 'cauee it's a serious commitment not a game. If she is wise in any other level or circumstance I don't know, but her decision was reasonable.
Okay but if you sign up for the show you know that the end result is going to be a proposal, so we why would you sign up if you weren’t going to be ready to say yes for the proposal in the end
@@ialwaysbesingin One of the best doctors I’ve ever seen said “like” and “you know” a lot. It was like a nervous tic she had
Chris H revealed that Madi was completely blindsided on how much Barb hated her, so she was getting to know about this for the first time along with everyone else. I cant imagine how she must've felt at the time, to be managing this new relationship and having to hear the mother of her partner say such crap on live tv
aminaf6 poor madi😢
She should've watched Monday night's finale, that was clear as day that Barb did not like her.
aminaf6
hmm not sure if shes lying or if shes this dense. that last convo at the house between maddison and barb was anything but friendly...barb's hatred was very clear. maddison is good at playing dumb tho
Well she had a huge grin the whole time. That's pretty telling. she knew
the only thing that made me feel better was reading the comments on Barb's latest Instagram post
“This is not just Peter’s journey. “ I agree with that. It’s a two-way street. Mom should let him be. Madison handled it well.
True. The girl he proposed to at the end of the season got dumped by him because he was still not over another girl.
true she made a good point there
The fact that Barbara said “Dir algo malo ayúdame” meaning “say something bad too help me out” to her husband says enough about her and her mindset she’s only thinking about herself
That tells us all we need know.
I thought it was "Diablo ayúdame"
This lady is rude and extreme af
She actually say di algo mas ayudame which means say something else help me out
She said algo mas but they switch their s’s to l’s. She said say more help me. Not say something bad.
Dear madison,
You dodged a bullet. Congratulations 🎉🎉🎉
MADISON has a podcast now called Staying True and it’s sooo good! Specifically she does an episode about the show and kind of tells all about her experience. It’s really good!
I forgot how brutal this was.
nogobelieve HAHAHAHHA not you come back to this too. We deserved the glo up from this season
@@angelesclaire1434 the sad thing is this season was even worse 😩😩😩
@@natalie56488 hahaha yesssss
Awe you're picking Peter's spouse. Cut the cord Barb
Run Madison she's a witch
We know that Mom is using the 3 hrs BS because she already made up her mind Hannah was the one when she met Hannah
dope2111 YESSS!!!!
And you know the most annoying thing about the three hours it was peters fault as well as Madison, why is she making it as if it was Madison who didn’t want to come out. They where both having a serious conversation about their relationship. God this woman is so annoying
Promise!!! Haha yes this is true
@@princeike9001 having learned more about the situation, i now know it was most likely the first time since her overnight date that they were allowed together to discuss it (producer interference). Now Mom knows the inconveniences the contestants go through all the time!
I feel bad for Madison because we don’t get to hear the full context she wants to share and she constantly gets cut off by the audience or just someone else. I really wanted to hear what Madison had more to say on this subject.
i highly doubt she could even articulate herself. try listening to her talk all season "like, it's like...i don't know like...you know what i mean, like"
sarah_says that’s a good point. But despite that, she seems so genuine and careful with her words too.... you know what I mean?
Family or not. These people are just toxic and I wouldn’t want to be around this level of negativity.
Oh, brother. Aren't you above it all? Which proves your toxicity. Look in a gawd damn mirror.
luvindaopera111 who are you talking to ?
luvindaopera111 Barb is that you ??!
MADDIE PLS-
I’m raising my daughters with the same morals Madi was raised. If any potential “mother in law” ever speaks to my girls like this, I’d lose my mind. I can’t imagine Madi’s parents watching this. They’re too classy to say anything publicly. Her dad must be livid. I’m glad they ended things before they even started. She deserves so much better.
Barb will never accept Madison, and if they manage to stay together, Barb will make their lives a living HELL! I know. I had a mother-in-law just like her. Notice, I said had...past tense. Madison needs to go find a nice Christian man who will appreciate and understand her.
Madison needs to grow up. She appears as a self-righteous and naive hypocrite. Sorry...this whole season was Psych 101. Mommy and Daddy issues galore.
Probably she will understand how hard is when will experience it
Maybe she likes a challenge too!
Kana Michelle my mother didn’t come to my wedding but today she loves my husband and our kids. I think I need to stop watching the bachelor because it bothered me so much. Barb knew she was on TV, what is she like off camera?
@@pearlmccarthy633 excellent point! Makes you wonder.
The fact they caught her say “say something bad too help me” GETS ME EVERYTIME LOOL
Time stamp
@@laneshaeffer2985 3:52 in Spanish
Barb is such a horrible human
She was not ready to meet the family. She Was confused. We understand her. You Mom you are too much.
She met them before on the first date so idk why the mother is talking like she hasn't met madi before
She was confused at the wrong time
Exactly, I am Hispanic, so obviously I speak Spanish and the mother said to Peter's father "help me, please say something" and that's when his father spoke. It gave me pity but at the same time I realized that she is pressing the situation And that's not right. He is not a baby
He a type of man you don't want to date! He a big talker and can't trust him and mother still holding on to his ball. He can't even stand up for him self
Right. Mom always making excuses for her prince.
The fact that he defended his mom at first and then proceeded to defend Madison. If he was serious about her, he would have cut it off as soon as it started.
When Peter's dad was speaking, his wife said to her husband in Spanish "say something wrong and help me out" that women is not a good person, she is bigile and very crafty with her words, and likes to control people.
And by the way BARB YOU ALREADY MET MADI LIKE TWO MONTHS AGO AND YOU LOVED HER SO I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN NOW AND THE TWO MONTHS YOU HAD TO WAIT TO MEET MADI AGAIN
You don't understand but explained it. She asked her if she love her son and Madison said no.
Maria Elizabeth Durham You expect Madison to force an engagement? Y’all do know dating outside of the franchise is an option. His mom needs to calm down
@@Ash_Queen16 TRUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
@@Ash_Queen16 would you want some woman to sit in your face and say that she doesn't love your son when you know your son has strong feeling for that person
Ashley Scott nobody was asking her to force an engagement. that would be like comparing it to cassie/colton where she just wasn’t ready for an engagement but they were otherwise compatible and loved each other. it’s the fact that not only did madi say she doesn’t love her son but they are also wildly incompatible so barb probably saw that even if they tried to work things out post bachelor things probably wouldn’t work. madi realized that too and voluntarily left shortly after. chris harrison also said that ATFR is where madi found out the true extent of barb’s disdain for her so i don’t think barb is the reason she left.
But I do agree with Madison’s point on this show being everyone’s journey to find their significant other rather than just the protagonist bachelor or bachelorette
chris harrison was disgusted with the mother 😂😂😂😂😂
He was not.
truthseeker yes he was he literally said so in an article today😂
@@squidney1025 He didn't say "disgusted" and so what...What does what Chris thinks or says have to do with Barb's truth vs Madison's truth? They both have control issues.
So was I. Don't see how this can work out now.
@@kaileim970 The latest is it didn't.
My favorite part about this is still when barb speaks in Spanish to her husband like thousands of people who understand Spanish weren’t watching this
I love what Madison said. These ladies are so smart. Glad she didn't allow monster in law bully her.
Barb wanted Hanna Ann and didn't get her way, like she does with daddy and the rest of the family!!! Barb needs to but out!!!!
Lol "Bud"
I would be mortified if my son was clueless enough to sleep with whoever was willing on national tv!!! Then along comes a girl with discipline enough to stay strong and this woman , who is repellant in every way, hates madison , voices it on national tv and is proud of it! Madison, thank you for fleeing!
You can tell peters dad wanted NO part of this 😂😂
Barb is one of the most vicious and villanous person in the history of the bachelor
Unpopular opinion: I think barb has valid points and I completely agree with her. I think her execution might have been too direct but I feel it was still the truth nonetheless..
Ally Love 100% agree
So true Maddie told her that she doesn't love her son what mother would want that person with they child
I used to like Madi, but for some reason, I’m watching this again and I don’t feel good about this girl.
I agree with you 100% while most people have blinders on and bashing the mother for what she said.
I agree 💯
Barb is such a karen Lmaooo
MADISON has a podcast now called Staying True and it’s sooo good! Specifically she does an episode about the show and kind of tells all about her experience. It’s really good!
Madi dodged a bullet. You deserve a much better mother in law for being such a sweet person
She's married now
Chris Harrison said it was Peters decision as much as Maddie to have that long conversation PLUS production takes a while to set up too! It’s not going to work BECAUSE YOUR NOT BEING A SUPPORTIVE FAMILY! Ugh 😑
Carmen Mares And what plans did Barbara has in Australia? She was probably jet lagged and taking her anger out on Madison
@@Ash_Queen16 you really have no manners huh? you dont make people wait for 3 hours and then not apologize when you come in.
Carmen Mares then Madison should have opened her mouth and said so instead of sitting there pouting her mouth😂
A K Did you miss the part where she said she was not there to talk bad to or about his family!? SHE WAS BITING HER TOUNGE NOT TO SAY MORE BECAUSE IT WAS NOT THE TIME AND PLACE! Something barb should have done! I’m just proud of her for not telling her what an evil woman she is for embarrassing her own son on NATIONAL TV! Geez
Producers should keep Barb around, they finally have a good villain.
Can't stand her, or her crying.
Lol.
she LITERALLY snapped HARD! plus Madi was just smirking until she brought up Hannah Ann 😂😂
Phew... girl dodged a huge bullet thank God. Both him and his mom are unbelievable.
The biggest problem is that they met on the bachelor.
Madison’s parents should be worried that he proposed to another girl because their daughter rejected him.
I think his parents realize that.
It's funny how everyone mad at his mother but she said what is true any woman that keeps walking away from you doesn't love you sorry you fight even if something's go wrong this girl leaves when she doesn't get what she wants if she can tell your mother that she doesn't love your son then i understand where his mother is coming from she has to deal with his parents the same way he has to deal with hers like come on now
Well spoken
Bingo! Best post of the video.
Exactly!! Barb only spoke the truth. Clearly they are not compatible and their relationship is already strained. Barbs just looking out for her son
@@luvindaopera111 thank you I don't think many understood what the mother was trying to get across
If anything, they’d break up because of Barbara not because of their connection or differences
I agree totally
No, I won't agree, because if they are TRULY INLOVE, Then they need to FIGHT whatever obstacles they have, That is called TRUE LOVES!
True Love can move a mountain. ;-)
And look... they ended up breaking up anyway 🙄 he really doesn’t know what he wants
Poor guy tho, probably couldn't get his mom off his back.
"He's gonna have to fail to succeed." -Barb
They won't last bc they are unequally yolked. God does not want his sheep to stray. So this will be interesting to watch...
and now Madison is married into a very powerful family. Sorry Barbs.
Barb is trash 😅
When Barb doesn’t realize that she is the reason his relationships fail
I said it once and I'll say it once more--
Barb spoke of being a
spiritual person herself
(during her conversation with Madison),
but then turned around and made an attempt to break Madison's spirit- on live television.
I'm not sure how the two go hand-in-hand.
Di Chrystelle that action (not saying Barb herself is) but her actions were hypocritical
Madison spoke of being a religious person but didn't apologize to Barb and his family.
I'm not sure how the two go hand-in-hand.
Not to mention her wanting her son to sleep around. She bears no fruit
How petty and mean mom is. Dad is a puppet for mom. Well said Madison.
Mom stop meddling. It’s your son’s life not yours. He’s not 18 years old. For Maddie, run for your life away from the Weber’s family. I’m glad Hanna Ann is out of Peter’s life. Barb as a mom couldn’t handle things properly but really poorly. She has no class and finesse. I’m a mom too married to my husband for over 43 years. I’m a catholic and my husband is a Protestant and we’re still together.
Thanks for saying the truth. I am a Mother of four and l cannot treat any of my child like that, instead l will encourage, pray and support them in whatever decision they make.
Wholeheartedly agree.
My husband is Catholic, I’m Presbyterian. We have 2 children baptized in Presbyterian church tho. That was my husbands idea. We are happily married 37 yrs. Both girls married. And grew up attending a Mass or a Service. It can work. It really opens your eyes to really love all around you. 💜💛✝️
Well I'm a mother with twin boys too and I could see she is a spoiled brat with her behaviour. Look at her very closely. She's very disrespectful! We she her to be good because of what the producers made us see. If we should dig deep for the whole story we all will see the type of Person Madison really is. The fact that she's a virgin, spiritual, and has certain standards doesn't make her an angel in character! I wouldn't condone Barbs behaviour but for a mother who loves her sons very much to hear a woman say she doesn't lover her son and later comes back to say otherwise is a red flag. If u loved him u would have stayed. Barbs was right with what she said but the message was presented in a bad way. Madison is not a saint either!
Elizabeth Velasco I agree she has no class.
Elizabeth Velasco 👍
His mom does not want to lose. She wants to be right even if she hast to tell her son she knows it’s going to fail. Boy that’s a mother-in-law to avoid.
she would be a monster in law
We desperately needed Madison's dad for this.
I do not think he is not allowed to speak.
The glare in this mothers face said it all when madison said I disagree.
Very uncomfortable watching "Barb" (who loves her son ,so much) hurt her son in a strong way. What could have been said off camera was aired for everyone. I respect she has an opinion but I was just wondering if she was affected by medication or alcohol .
I have a mother in law just like her. Women like her and my mother in law their whole identity is being a mother so they don’t know what to do when their children (especially sons) grow up and they feel like the woman that they’ve chosen has taken her place but what they don’t realise is all they do is push their son away.
I’ve been married for almost 5 years and my relationship with my mother-in-law is not the best and we basically tolerate one another for the sake of her only child-my husband. But I will say this, Barb makes my mother-in-law look good 🥴
See this is my thing, you and her tolerate each other because you both love him. Barb isn't going to tolerate Madi even if her son begs her....its soo sad.
Their beginning was at your vow renewal wedding anniversary... bright spot enough for you?😄
Retha Vrey seriously
It is weird how they discount what is so obvious to everyone else!
She doesn't have to go to the fantasy suite to prove their love for one another.
but she's gotten the whole pictrure of maddison finally. is he really willing to turn into a home body/christian? let him learn
No, they're beginning is once everyone else is gone and it's just the two of them. Which...was a short lived disaster.
Yo, the way Madi just shut this woman down and out! Yessss QUEEN!
Barb - "Chris he's gnna have to fail to succeed"
Me - *gasps* til the show ends
Barb did you forget you have a mic on?
madison has a good head on her shoulders and made the right decision and is better off where she is now
So at 3:55 when they ask for peter’s dad option , Barb blurs out in Spanish “come on say something, help me..” this woman loves and thrives control and is the definition of a narcissistic manipulator..
Haha Peters mom to her husband in Spanish “you have to help me” lol. That poor man
Barbara is such a control freak! She's controlling her son AND her husband. I'm sorry but that's not the kinda crap a loving and caring mother pulls.
Good for madi standing up for herself.
I dont know about you guys but that thing Madi was doing with her mouth, I do it too but not from being nervous. I do that if I am angry and feel insulted and defeated but trying really hard not to cry, i literally cant even speak without bursting into tears so i just do exactly what she was doing and just look down. That would have been my reaction in this situation but I think I wouldn't have been able to hold it all in till the end, you would have seen tears for sure😭😭😭
Jay Mak thanks for ur honesty I does it wen I am really really upset
@@susanward8622 so many comments on how annoying her mouth movements were I was beginning to think I'm the only one who does it too. Thank u too!
I feel so bad for Madison these people are horrible. They made themselves look so bad
Madison has lost so much weight, you can see the stress on her.
They all lose weight when they come off the show because they eat and drink so much when they are on and don't work out.
i noticed that too -- and i dont think its from drinking cause she doesn't drink alcohol. i think like she said -- she was too heartbroken to eat. it was a lot of weight she dropped
Guilty conscience, that is all. Madison is a naive hypocrite. There is zero understanding of love from either of them. Barb may have flapped her jaw, but she is absolutely right. No way those two will make it as a couple. No way.
Sad
During the home visit Madi was not warm or overly connecting with the family. If she is a virgin or whatever and the mom knows her son is not the mom was just being real and honest. Maddie didn't say that she loved him to the mom but Hannah did. I somewhat understand Mom's side . Even tonight Nadi was not attempting to win over mom. This relationship is doomed
His mom needs to speak for herself. She kept saying my husband, the whole family, and friends, when she tried to make a point. Why does she have to drag other people into this? She can’t even let her poor husband give his opinion, other than herself. This is a big ego and selfishness. I just wonder where the compromise in her own marriage is; it seems like she is just the controller of her own marriage.She was so negative toward Madison and judged her cause she had her standards and morals. I guess she wanted someone to be subjugated under her son’s fleshy desires. That is a real disappointment. That was very awkward vibe for Maddy. If I were Maddy, I would have called it all quits.
The mom said something in Spanish to the dad when he was going to speak. Did you guys hear that? “Di algo mal, ayudame” which translates to “say something bad, help me” 😮🤭🤯
🤔🤔🤔🤔🙄
Say something more. Help me out is what she said.
She said say something more. Di algo mas
No she actually said “Di algo MAL” not mas
“Di algo mal tanbien, ayudame”
Dang. Did all they anti-Barb commenters watch the show? Madison is def no heroine in this story! That Madison has even tried to package the vitriol against her as clapback on her "morals & values" is SO disingenuous, it's ridiculous. The fact is, Madison had ALL season to communicate her standards, expectations, virginity, religious beliefs, etc. but instead, waited until the 11th hour. Further, she 100% knew what the show was about & where it was headed. It was her last-minute edicts that threw everything into a tailspin for all remaining parties. I think she's bullsh*t & Barb was onto her all the way.
I 100% agree with you!
I 100% agree!
Barb sitting there reacting like a middle school girl who can't handle her emotions.
That title is not appropriate... there's no truth to what barb was saying its just her opinion
This is so petty.. poor Madison she’s been through so much and they’re putting her through even more
Other girls had also been through as much as Madison, or even more
Maive Toming well we don’t care about the other girls we love Madison so....
@@luv2467 yes we do and no we don't 😋
Madison hasn't gone through nothing she did not want to go through. I saw right through her early on. This woman has some type of motive. It will reveal itself sooner or later, watch.
Currently reading Madison's book and I feel so bad for her watching this back
He and his brother are two grown men. They were still living at home and their mother was all up in their business. If Pete doesn’t grow up and grow a pair his mommy is going to make sure that he stays a bachelor.
Everybody is applauded for speaking their truth, except Barb.
That is due to absolute IGNORANCE in the room.
Cassie Downey to be fair, Barb took it too far. Most parents wouldn’t embarrass their son and the person their son loves like this on live tv in front of millions... of Chris Harrison said he was appalled by Barbs behavior. She took it too far and is Madi really that bad? Come on.
@@EllDuclos
Not saying I don't agree but holy hell, the women this season expressed 10x more emotion and got praised for it.
I died when Chris Harrison asked “Dad what’s your take on this”. 😂
See Barb is right that there are lots of differences between them but going so far as to say “he’s gonna have to fail to succeed” is heart breaking and honestly annoying. Because then it isn’t about him and his heart and his relationship, it’s about proving his mom right or wrong. You don’t have to agree with his choice but at least respect it and know that it is his own.
Madison the whole time rubbing her lips together i hated thatt
Nina Topic I think it has to do with the fact that she could be nervous and/or upset because of the situation
As if she had something stuck in her mouth or she has dry mouth or something.. looks so weird
I do it too. It’s kinda an anxiety thing sometimes
Its being anxious n rightly so
She is pissed
Legends say that Victoria F's family are still waiting to meet your son Barb..
Madison was only 3 hours late.
That was sorta on Victoria F
Kirsten Moore yes, she ran off .
My mom is a bit like Barb. She just decides she’s not going to like a person I’m dating and is pretty horrible to him. It’s caused many issues between is. Even now, years later, she will refer to one of my boyfriends, “That horrible man”. I have never been able to convince her to give them a chance.
Can I have a chance? 😁
Why does she keep doing that with her lips constantly..
Keeping them moist!......or maby trying to hold her tongue!!
ya I think it's a habit that she doesn't even realize. Looks like she always has food stuck in her teeth and she feels the need to take it out or something lol plus that lip pursing every 2 secs
I do it too when im pissed.. when im being tested...
i think shes also got killer case of dry mouth
I think she’s nervous. I do this with my mouth too because it will help it not to twitch when I’m nervous
I don’t understand the timing. They had this bad day in November and she is still talking like this ...
Franziska Maria it’s a first impression. You can’t make ppl wait 3 hours and show no remorse
Nashna Rampersad she already met them so it wasn’t a first impression
FreeFallin119 No, it was the first true impression !
Juliétte that doesn’t make sense, she went to their vow renewal. She already met them and Peters mom said she liked her then.
@@nashnarampersad9014 Barb sat down and talked with her at her vowel renewal. That was the first impression.
madison is pulling a mykenna w those faces
It’s horrible how Barb treated Madison. However, why is Madison smiling when Barb is talking? Kind of disrespectful. She also interrupted. I feel she should have apologized about having them wait and maybe told them that she hopes that they can have a relationship in the future. It just seemed a little back and forth rather than resolving issues.
Madison is tough, and is a threat to Barb. She won't able to control Madi.
man, I didn't really care about the Jessie takeover, but coming back to this now, Chris Harrison was so good at this
He was far better.
Why does Madison keep doing that thing with her lip. It is so distracting.
It’s something people do when they get nervous, almost like fidgeting with your hands
She pissed and tried to control herself
Peter's mom be like :" My son can do no wrong."
She told her husband “Ayuda me” 😂😂😂😂😂😂 she’s the drill sergeant of the family.
how did madison NOT compromise? are you kidding? lol
It's not even his mother's business! She needs to shut it!
Dad is reallllly trying to sit on a fence here lol
Theyre both wrong.. to make your in law wait 3hrs to meet you is wrong.. shouldve told them to get some rest first so you can ease the nerves.. i mean at least apologize.. didnt your mom tell you any better.. i understand Madison has high standards, she shouldve signed up to be a bachelorette not for the bachelor lol
The producer told her to do so duh!
She isn’t the In-law. She’s a potential in-law. There’s a difference. Although yes you are right that it’s rude to intentionally have someone wait that long
Run, Madison, RUN! 🏃🏃
A mother KNOWS her child and additionally other people in his inner circle drew the same conclusion!
She essentially was pissed that Madi was a virgin and wouldn't sleep with her son.
Jenna Denjern what show are you watching !? She wanted the best for her son. She saw Madison as a flake. And Hanna Ann as firm and loving of her son. Any mother that loves their child wants security for that child. Duh. Feelings flee but love stays.
Her father was against it too
No one is bashing him !!???
The way I physically rolled my eyes involuntarily for the first time in my life
Maybe it’s just me but I’m on barbs side. Even if she did spill a little too much info, people wanted to know more on why she felt the way she did so she let everyone know but still it wasn’t good enough. I think what Madison did was not okay at all and the fact she still didn’t say sorry doesn’t look good.
Exactly. If a man did all that manipulation to someone's daughter it would not have been okay
Well said agreed..
Omg Barb this is your sons life not yours. You step in and you will lose him! I know that for a fact! It is his life let him live it! He makes a mistake be there for him! If not and they move forward, be there for him.
robyn deddens you have clearly not had a child yet. And a child that is grown up.
Caitlyn What??? That’s definitely how you should treat a grown child
Ashley Scott it depends. She only wants what’s best for him a dm she knows it’s not going to work out and she doesn’t want his heart broken.
@@caitlyn396 exactly
luvindaopera111 finally someone understands!!!
I think Barb wanted Hanna Ann for herself. That .......bring her home to us (while she cried with all her TOXIC DRAMA) ANYONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD STAY AWAY FROM THAT.......
Madison has a compulsive habit of moving her lips around. I can’t. That’s all I can see.
Holly W well I would like to see how you act in her situation getting ambushed and attacked!!!
Luv She does it ALL season. Not just when she’s being “ambushed and attacked.”
Yeah she did the whole season lol
I have same thing when stressed. Dry lips and mouth. Nerves
It's called a nervous tic; I'm sure you have one, too.
if ur future sons gf said they dont love your son, will not accept a proposal, and made u wait 3 hours to meet her....thats not cool...
Thank God its not true😂😂
Well said people not hearing that part
Most of their acts and decision was producer's ______?
@@linaleacock7912 ?
This is the craziest thing!!! I could totally understand if Madison’s parents were against them dating but Peters? 🤯 OMG MY SON MIGHT CHANGE FOR THE BETTER!