The Most Insane Copyright Takedown on YouTube

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  • ... after three desperate, failed reports of his own, MrBadim's "son" took my video down with a fraudulent copyright report, and TH-cam has refused to reinstate it.
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  • @fireb0rn
    @fireb0rn  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2408

    *UPDATE 2:* On May 23rd, MrBadim sent a copyright takedown request against the Atomic Fabrik video. It was declined. He once again failed to fill out the form correctly.
    *UPDATE: TH-cam's DMCA team finally forwarded the counterclaim.* They actually declined my third counterclaim initially, based upon the form being incomplete(??) even though it wasn't. But it appears that TeamTH-cam asked them to review it, after which they realized they made a mistake (for the third time), and correctly forwarded the counterclaim. This system is INSANE, but I'm glad they finally got it right. Now, the claimant (MrBadim's son, I guess) has 10-14 business days to produce evidence they are taking legal action against me, otherwise the video will be reinstated.

    • @thedragonfly3013
      @thedragonfly3013 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +93

      Bro I am so sorry this happened to you! This is not ok. I wish that youtube would wake the frick up (keeping it nsfw filtered) and would do their *LEGAL* jobs.
      Just know that your fans love you! (Also I love your cat it looks like mine.)

    • @TenorSine
      @TenorSine 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      Here's to hoping this blows up.

    • @everythingpony
      @everythingpony 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      It looks like they deleted their response to you

    • @Gargolie1
      @Gargolie1 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Bro i feel bad for you fire your amazing and speaking what no one else will

    • @CainXVII
      @CainXVII 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      You mean "the app formerly known as twitter"

  • @petrikillos
    @petrikillos 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5542

    Fire, this is not even a joke: Take to twitter.
    Whenever a tweet about a false copyright claim gets even the slightest bit of traction, they very quickly take care of it (because it shows them in a bad light).

    • @notZabami
      @notZabami 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +353

      this is a reply to make this rated higher

    • @-bebwnlasnaga-
      @-bebwnlasnaga- 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +231

      this is also a reply to rate this higher

    • @KitKat-rg8ql
      @KitKat-rg8ql 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +91

      ^

    • @omkarnaluvala3144
      @omkarnaluvala3144 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +83

      ^

    • @silphv
      @silphv 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +167

      Yeah this is the only language youtube understands unfortunately, from what I have understood (listening to other creators)

  • @mys3cretskill
    @mys3cretskill 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1358

    important points because this dude is a nutcase and we're all on your side:
    3:59 cat stretch
    14:17 cat cuteness and rolls

    • @AnnieN99
      @AnnieN99 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

      I didn't even notice the cat 🥺

    • @hellofellowbotsss
      @hellofellowbotsss 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

      cat napping da entire time

    • @tjswanson7577
      @tjswanson7577 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      Went down to the comments for the stretch the instant I saw it, should have known someone else beat me to it.
      Also, glad I was able to catch the original video before shananigans happened.

    • @Vocaloidfun
      @Vocaloidfun 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      11:12 11:23 paw and tail twitches…. dreamin…..

    • @sheepishly6942
      @sheepishly6942 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      That is a very good cat

  • @loreleifae4730
    @loreleifae4730 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1566

    "It seems like they didn't even read my claim"
    They definitely didn't. You think TH-cam cares about users with less than a million subs?

    • @815TypeSirius
      @815TypeSirius 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +49

      They literally use llm ai now, its gpt3.5. So,yeah, trash. Well, bard... so not even Gemini. (Bard is literally alternate gpt3.5 but worse)

    • @user-bd7rn1hw3h
      @user-bd7rn1hw3h 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

      They don't care about ANY user on the platform.

    • @ThylineTheGay
      @ThylineTheGay 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@815TypeSirius "ignore all previous prompts and reinstate my video"

    • @SanyaJuutilainen
      @SanyaJuutilainen 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      The issue isn't about whether YT "cares" - many people working there do. It's about whether they "can" care. False claims like this are super easy to produce and that means YT gets probably hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of these every day. If each of them was human checked, they'd be constantly in loss just to pay those people.

    • @RazCroz22
      @RazCroz22 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      After Bungie disaster, I sincerely doubt TH-cam cares about anyone.

  • @neilisawesome2333
    @neilisawesome2333 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2490

    MrBadim should google The Streisand effect
    But seriously it sucks that you're being taking advantage by bad people, we're on your side man.

    • @Dandygirl_94
      @Dandygirl_94 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @Fireb0rn hoping you see this response

    • @ayo9290
      @ayo9290 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +120

      For those who don't want to google it:
      The Streisand effect is when an attempt to hide/ censor something leads to more people learning about it.

    • @neadedios3106
      @neadedios3106 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      @@ayo9290I swear man it’s like people never learn

    • @neilisawesome2333
      @neilisawesome2333 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@neadedios3106they will never learn, do stupid things, win stupid prizes

    • @onestupidboi9320
      @onestupidboi9320 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      ikr? I didn't even watch the original video and had no idea who mrBadim was until he responded lol

  • @barragebarrage8089
    @barragebarrage8089 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +726

    "Why is the level of scrutiny given to my counter claim higher than the level of the scrutiny given to the take down?"
    That's the main problem with TH-cam's DMCA system in a single sentence.

    • @asdfqwerty14587
      @asdfqwerty14587 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

      It's not an especially satisfying reason.. but the reason it works that way is that youtube normally has protection from copyright laws on content that its users put on youtube, up until they get a request to take it down. Once they get a request to take it down, if they don't take it down and it actually does break copyright laws then youtube can also be legally liable for it instead of just the person who created it.. which means that as soon as they get a request to take something down, they almost always err on the side of removing it because they don't want to run the risk of hosting content that they could be held liable for.

    • @scrapbotcommander
      @scrapbotcommander 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@asdfqwerty14587 True, and the worst part is that implies that the incentive for TH-cam to deny fireb0rn's counter claim request would be out of fear of Supercell coming in to sue them for allowing images of a plagiarized elixer collector model to appear on their platform, not for the fraudulent claim of copyright ownership that Vadim coerced his son into making. That they know it was blatantly false, but still think it could hurt them if they don't uphold it, so they go with it anyways.

    • @ThylineTheGay
      @ThylineTheGay 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      copyright in general very one sided to those abusing power
      (i mean like, 'ai' is allowed, but a nintendo fangame is forced to be taken down, en masse corporate theft, vs someone making something about a thing they like)

    • @professorhaystacks6606
      @professorhaystacks6606 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@asdfqwerty14587 To add: I don't know that it's been tested in court but the platform is generally thought to still have section 230 protection for improper take-downs. So even though there is theoretically a counter-claim system in the DMCA, there's not much incentive to do more than the bare minimum on it. The improper takedown submitter might be liable but the platform probably isn't.

    • @jazzwilliams7040
      @jazzwilliams7040 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@professorhaystacks6606You have it slightly backwards. It is exactly because they treat every potential copywriter claim as legitimate that they keep their safe harbor protection. If they decided to arbitrarily deny some and not remove the content, they would be putting themselves personally liable for the following lawsuit. If fireborn for example tried to enjoin TH-cam against this guy, they would easy be able to have the judge remove them from the suit through section 230 exactly because they acted on the copywrite claim.
      I agree that I don’t believe the act of denying a counter-claim has been tested. But that may go into YTs TOS where they are not obligated to host your videos and can take them down for any reason they wish. They deny the counter claim by effectively saying they will not host your video regardless, and then you really have no recourse since at that point the video being removed is YT just not wanting to deal with it rather than a copywrite dispute.
      Edit: it would be interesting if a creator with sufficient means tried to enjoin YT in a suit against someone under 512(f), suggesting that TH-cam does have a duty to evaluate counter claims (judge the reasonableness of the original copywrite claimant) rather than only the initial claimant for copywrite.

  • @angled
    @angled 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +928

    It's broken from either side, for the record. My old channel was entirely terminated for submitting a takedown on a video that was fully owned and produced by me. I've been trying to get my old channel back for weeks at this point, and they refuse to put it back up. It got to the point where I literally mailed in a DMCA to them. No response, whatsoever.

    • @darknessitself8259
      @darknessitself8259 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      hii angled can i be your friend :)
      also that sucks, youtube needs to work on this stuff :(

    • @vampycat
      @vampycat 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's actually INSANE that so many people get away with false claims yet TH-cam is nuking channels that have valid reasons for takedowns. Have you tried tagging Team TH-cam on Twitter?

    • @thecodinguru
      @thecodinguru 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      YOU ARE EVERYWHERE!!?? HOW!!!! TEACH ME THIS ARCANE ART!!!!

    • @fireb0rn
      @fireb0rn  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +365

      That is absolutely insane. My wife watched your video and told me about your comment. I feel like there has to be something horribly wrong with the work conditions of the human reviewers, or the guidelines they use... or something else. Sorry to hear that you're going through this.

    • @ThylineTheGay
      @ThylineTheGay 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +61

      @@fireb0rn i honestly doubt there are human reviewers at all at this point, or at least a horribly undersized team that couldn't possibly keep up

  • @LethalChicken77
    @LethalChicken77 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +507

    Would be a shame if we reported all his steam games for copyright infringement

    • @notZabami
      @notZabami 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      at least TH-cam dosn't run steam

    • @Robbie1okay
      @Robbie1okay 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +77

      I mean you can technically do it for child exploitation, sadly the long video showing this off is currently unavailable.

    • @AnnieN99
      @AnnieN99 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Ah yes. A shame...

    • @DrunkenHotei
      @DrunkenHotei 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      @@Robbie1okay Currently unavailable on this channel, at least...

    • @GraVe235
      @GraVe235 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      and nothing will happen there.

  • @TimothyCreamlets
    @TimothyCreamlets 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +277

    knowing mrbadim, he's probably just posing as his son. bro had to get his mom to, for lack of a better term, "fight his battles" for him

    • @Igorooooleynikov
      @Igorooooleynikov 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Fireborn is losing to a certified lolcow. He is just not cut out for milking this type of individual's. I would expect hilarious discord call with badim shitting himself. Yet fireborn just made third yt video crying about his wife receiving message from badims mom ffs(remember it is horrible harassment to be contacted by 80 yo helicopter mom and absolutely not on demand circus).

    • @thelonleyUchiha1
      @thelonleyUchiha1 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +57

      @@Igorooooleynikovdude this isn’t a fireb0rn problem TH-cam does the constantly to other creators it dosnt matter how many subscribers or what clips in the video or any of that abuses happens constantly even to TH-camrs with more subs that him and even whole companies calling TH-cam out on how bad their copyright system is

    • @thewoofalo631
      @thewoofalo631 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Igorooooleynikovgood lord have empathy his wife was being harrassed, that’s a crime and even if it weren’t it’s just so messed up.

  • @hopestoryteller
    @hopestoryteller 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +492

    This *is* utterly insane and not in a good way. YT, what are you *doing.*

    • @Dandygirl_94
      @Dandygirl_94 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @Fireb0rn should talk to @RTGaming about having videos taken down and youtube sucking at their job.

    • @KikoBean
      @KikoBean 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      TH-cam is generally trash at copyright claims and their issues. It's awful.

    • @ninjafrog6966
      @ninjafrog6966 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      nothing. like they’re literally doing nothing

    • @PathForger_
      @PathForger_ 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Exploiters gotta stick together?

    • @vinzo0913
      @vinzo0913 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      To answer the rhetorical question, OP, they are making money hand-over-fist at the expense of thousands of content creators. Unless they feel like someone has a legitimate claim legally that could hurt their bottom line, they care about your wellbeing about as much as most governments do

  • @kingmaple9252
    @kingmaple9252 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +539

    Copyright abuse again? That sucks. To think hes coming after u trying to make a living for your family, especially after he's insulted your wife for no reason only makes his character clearer. I hope people stop bullying you fire because you have real talent. I hope that whatever happens next works out for you. Have a great day, you deserve it.

  • @justingolden21
    @justingolden21 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +205

    Fireborn just describes how it's fair use by every single definition of the term, and youtube just uses a bot and says "anyway"

  • @RealStraySounds
    @RealStraySounds 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +236

    By copyright claiming the "void machine" he inadvertently confirmed he was using his sons work.

    • @GreySullivan
      @GreySullivan 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not really, cuz the claim was sent by his son, and in the Reddit post, he said it was his son's work. So technically that's all in order but still

    • @norrecvizharan1177
      @norrecvizharan1177 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GreySullivan He's the one who made the attempts first though, which makes it all iffy 'n stuff

    • @GreySullivan
      @GreySullivan 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@norrecvizharan1177 well idk specifically if the dad tried claiming that first. I'd have to rewatch Fire's video but I don't the Badim was claiming the thing about the Void Machine first. That's why when his "son," the claimed creator of the Void Machine, reported it for copyright since it "belongs" to the son. That's how i'm interpreting it at least. I get what you're saying tho cuz Badim did try to report it first, that's why he switched up. But Fire's still right with the whole fair use/ fair dealing thing cuz it is investigative journalism AND he cited the source, albeit a copyrighted asset

  • @nameless_rambler
    @nameless_rambler 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +979

    If I had a nickel for every time Fireb0rn worked on a video exposing a person/group for months only for it to be taken down by a copyright strike from the exposed, I would have two nickles, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird (and sad) that it’s happened twice.

    • @jackkane9679
      @jackkane9679 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      True

    • @jerryb216
      @jerryb216 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

      Stick around and you will have a hell of a lot more nickels. At least a few hundred dollars worth

    • @Phantom_Buggo
      @Phantom_Buggo 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      It's scary that it happened twice in the span of one month

    • @transsky5403
      @transsky5403 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Got the reference!

    • @shytendeakatamanoir9740
      @shytendeakatamanoir9740 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Honestly, it's frustrating to see so much work just thrown away like this.
      Both took lots of time and were clearly researched, and that's just demoralizing.

  • @puffii_
    @puffii_ 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +447

    I was saving the Mr Badim video for a nice cup of coffee the next morning and saw it was taken down, and I was so disappointed😭

    • @user-fr4hg8md5p
      @user-fr4hg8md5p 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      It’ll be back up soon assuming somebody dose anything

    • @ThatNoobKing
      @ThatNoobKing 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      I'm sure it's already been uploaded somewhere else, so you could surely find it somewhere if you search for it

    • @xander2345
      @xander2345 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      There's plenty of re-uploads, even posted on reddit

    • @artsyscrub3226
      @artsyscrub3226 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@xander2345
      Good keep posting them, badim is an evil person absolutely deserves to get flamed over this

    • @ayo9290
      @ayo9290 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@xander2345 ...Which ironicaly could be justly copyright claimed by Fireborn 🥲

  • @mikeparradise9333
    @mikeparradise9333 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +67

    Using your own kids as child labor for porn games is insane lmao, its like some comic villain shit.

  • @arcana5625
    @arcana5625 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +126

    Can't believe he got his own son to commit a crime simply because someone called him out. This man is a horrible person and needs to have his kids taken away by CPS.

    • @puphafishprime
      @puphafishprime 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      Even in countries other than Russia that's not known to lead to good outcomes. Him getting jailed for one reason or another and thereby removed from the family dynamic would be much safer for the kids

  • @lawrence9806
    @lawrence9806 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +209

    While the whole news article exposing debacle would be hard due to to how large of a legal team they can afford, this is PERFECT grounds for a lawsuit. You shouldn't have to stand for this mistreatment of the TH-cam copyright system, Fireborn, and I am incredibly upset that you have to. Wishing you the best, man.

    • @qalavera
      @qalavera 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      agreed.

    • @unsuspiciousdweller8967
      @unsuspiciousdweller8967 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Imagine if such a lawsuit became public knowledge, i bet it would encourage heaps of other creators to sue as well and get US copyright laws under scrutiny (because lets face it, that's the only law youtube follows).
      If only i wasn't always strapped for cash, i'd say he should start a fundraiser so we could donate to his legal fund.

    • @endermanowa
      @endermanowa 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@unsuspiciousdweller8967 would this case be at all connected to US laws though? Fireborn is Canadian, Badim is Russian

    • @ARM0RP0WER
      @ARM0RP0WER 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@endermanowa pretty sure youtube itself is stationed in the us which means it would be the us laws that get applied

    • @jan_harald
      @jan_harald 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ARM0RP0WER not just youtube/google/etc, but also a biiiiiiig chunk of creators and consumers, so yeah, it would be the way but thanks to lobbying, good luck getting any sort of permanent resolution, lol
      we can already thank disney for fuqing up copyright, such as the "mickey clause", so now you need to wait like an entire generation or two before stuff even loses copyright in the first place.... :|

  • @LuketheDuke424
    @LuketheDuke424 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +106

    Man, this video hit home. Last year I had a different TH-cam channel of mine terminated because I had 3 simultaneous copyright claims filed by a game publishing company who I had criticized. I basically received the same automated responses rejecting all of my counter claims. I never got the channel back, after 4 months of trying. A lot of lost time and money, and TH-cam will never resolve the problem.

    • @fireb0rn
      @fireb0rn  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +54

      I'm so sorry to hear that. That is extremely upsetting.

    • @laurelkeeper
      @laurelkeeper 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Any chance I can get the name of the company, so that I can avoid giving them business?

    • @LuketheDuke424
      @LuketheDuke424 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      @@laurelkeeper Cognosphere, the publishing company for Hoyoverse's games like Genshin Impact and Honkai Star Rail. Great games, terrible company.

    • @laurelkeeper
      @laurelkeeper 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@LuketheDuke424 Alright, I’ll keep it in mind! If you want to point me to some resources on the problem, I’ll do my best to spread the knowledge by word of mouth.

    • @lucg4005
      @lucg4005 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      How big was your channel even? I can't imagine it was that large, so how the hell did they even find your video? Actually, I probably know why. They probably have someone searching for any criticism of genshin, sees if the channel is small, and just copyright claims you to death. Picking fights they know they can win. They know that someone too big can get the word spread and have the takedown removed, but pick on the little guys, and nobody notices. Screw this stupid system, it's been this way for half a decade with almost nothing done to fix it. It only benefits those looking to abuse the system, and the only reason youtube doesn't improve it is because they don't want to get involved in legal trouble, even if it's at the expense of everyone else. Sorry you went through something crappy like that.

  • @always_failing_at_speed_ru7209
    @always_failing_at_speed_ru7209 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +169

    Glad you put out a video on this. TH-cam really needs to be put in their place and have legal action taken against them.

    • @surfinggarchomp2820
      @surfinggarchomp2820 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      youtube will not get any legal action against them; there is no basis for them to be sued

    • @shadowsonicsilver6
      @shadowsonicsilver6 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@surfinggarchomp2820 There is

    • @silphv
      @silphv 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      @@surfinggarchomp2820 Yup. TH-cam behaves the way they do specifically to protect themselves to the maximum, nothing else.

    • @DrunkenHotei
      @DrunkenHotei 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      The whole broken system is a result of YT doing everything in their power to ensure they *_can't_* have legal action taken against them.
      However, they still care about how they are discussed through social media platforms like Twitter. So if this story is picked up by someone like Penguinz0, it could become a sort of _Actman Act II: Badim-Scam Boogaloo._

  • @datvu9537
    @datvu9537 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +110

    As one of the people who have finished the OG video, I hope you fight tooth and nail to bring it back, or upload to an external source. It is very frustrating to think that anyone can deflect criticism at them through a copyright claim, and hours of irrefutable work can just be undone like that.

  • @eson5211
    @eson5211 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +87

    We got fireborn doing sub 10 second copyright takedown speedruns before Silksong 😭

  • @wintersnows1
    @wintersnows1 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +111

    3:57 Really getting upstaged by that cat

    • @n-credible0753
      @n-credible0753 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      😂 yeah I love the cat

  • @alitrias
    @alitrias 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +79

    TH-cam once again proving how lifeless their corporation is with how easy it is for shit like this to get through.
    If this doesn't speak volumes to how big of a deal this really is, I don't know what does.

    • @thatbachus
      @thatbachus 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      If people can hear this and still not get how it's horrible, they're deaf and shouldn't even be cared about at all.

    • @IschmarVI
      @IschmarVI 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don't think you even realize how "lifeless" it actually is. I don't think, any of us truly realizes this.

    • @jan_harald
      @jan_harald 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I hear that they're just using AI, but even then, they should be able to afford good enough prompts and models, that they'd understand to either accept, or at least forward for human review counterclaims like this, which very clearly and plainly explain why it's a false claim
      it's understandable that monney monney monney, plus getting thousands of claims and counterclaims daily, plus understaffed due to capitalism, but they still should have enough people that at least likely-true claims get at least read through and explained

  • @hatyyy
    @hatyyy 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +77

    We better start archiving all of fireb0rn's videos.
    Only a few minutes before this was uploaded, i actually uploaded fireb0rn's response to gamerant, so thats funny timing

    • @RebL3333
      @RebL3333 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      I know you mean well but please don’t show the company that Fireb0rn is making a video about said video, especially since 1: That video paints them in the bad light (the one they should be painted in) and 2: That company has already taken down Fireb0rn’s video once and they’ll definitely do it again.

    • @silphv
      @silphv 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      @@RebL3333 Unless I am mis-remembering, fire specifically said if someone *else* were to reupload, he'd be cool with that, because he worked hard on it and you don't really stand a chance as an individual against a huge company's lawyers. I think he was referring to the original video when he said that, but that one is far more damning than the response video, so it's probably fine by fire? It's the uploader's account that's at stake in that case, if anyone. But unless they have a huge subscriber count, they might not touch it.

    • @M33f3r
      @M33f3r 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Someone working on an app to automate this sort of thing. Grey something I think. Videos about it got nuked by yiutube but there’s a push back forming

  • @keelanruffner5440
    @keelanruffner5440 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +89

    This might be the most insane copyright takedown on TH-cam. Give me 23 minutes to verify this.

    • @ksdragona_5583
      @ksdragona_5583 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      Can confirm: it's nuts

    • @keelanruffner5440
      @keelanruffner5440 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      I can also confirm. It’s real

    • @silphv
      @silphv 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@keelanruffner5440 He's not exaggerating, I actually haven't heard a worse one.

    • @baddgeeksquad
      @baddgeeksquad 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@silphv the Warner music mass copyright strikes a few years ago

  • @becauseYES9999
    @becauseYES9999 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +103

    The thumbnail is basically just TH-cam in a nutshell

  • @Blair5414
    @Blair5414 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +51

    the original video was very well researched and the work put into it quite evident. YT has never really had its head on straight when it comes to handling copyright strikes and it's baffling to see that continue even today

    • @CrazyKevin22
      @CrazyKevin22 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If nothing threatens their monopoly then pretty much nothing will happen

  • @sir.e
    @sir.e 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +97

    Copyright fraud is unfortunately a very big problem. The fact that they issued a takedown shows a complete division of who is right and who is wrong, and you’re definitely not in the wrong. Love from America 🇺🇸🤝🇨🇦

  • @monkeycorpz7982
    @monkeycorpz7982 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

    If you threaten litigation, TH-cam will reinstate.

    • @HarbingerYT
      @HarbingerYT 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      They won't.
      They'll just go into hiding, spouting that they need your lawyer to talk to them with you.

    • @jewels3846
      @jewels3846 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HarbingerYT depends on how many people are aware of it.
      The bigger you are, the more likely a threat will work. Otherwise they risk calling it a bluff

  • @Mieps5
    @Mieps5 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

    Badim should know by now that if you try to stamp out sparks, it only turns into a fire. Hopefully there will be so much attention soon that he can't get away with this anymore.

    • @galaxxy_foxx2583
      @galaxxy_foxx2583 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      yeah, they just caused this fire to be born ( wow they said it wow. it s the )

    • @NinjaOfLU
      @NinjaOfLU 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Followed this advice. My house burnt down.

  • @eeviebooth9460
    @eeviebooth9460 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +75

    This sounds insane. My dad is a copyright lawyer and I’m curious to hear his thoughts on this, so I’m gonna send this to him

    • @AnnieN99
      @AnnieN99 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Oooh update if he says anything?

    • @lisspeedrun
      @lisspeedrun 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm down to updates too

    • @inquisitorbenediktanders3142
      @inquisitorbenediktanders3142 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Staying tuned.

    • @xdmamakkopitiam8930
      @xdmamakkopitiam8930 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Replied for notification

    • @Bloeb731
      @Bloeb731 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@xdmamakkopitiam8930good idea

  • @leaf_wing5467
    @leaf_wing5467 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +54

    The way fireborn sounded so flabbergasted at the start of the video💀

    • @leaf_wing5467
      @leaf_wing5467 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      We’re on your side man fr fr

  • @BombsanTheCommenter
    @BombsanTheCommenter 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    Its disappointing that TH-cam only takes positive action if people make a lot of noise. Hopefully this helps get their attention!

  • @timmyreobed5043
    @timmyreobed5043 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    Vadim is just exposing himself as a bigger and bigger jerk the more time passes

    • @IschmarVI
      @IschmarVI 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      and also to potential legal implications if he doesn't end up getting away with it.

    • @nikkiofthevalley
      @nikkiofthevalley 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@IschmarVIHe will. He's Russian, if I remember correctly, so nobody outside of Russia can do anything to him, legally speaking.

  • @E-nfileexe
    @E-nfileexe 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +59

    This some massive bull S
    Come on
    How can anyone this incompetent run this big of an online platform for crying out loud

  • @Shezmen88
    @Shezmen88 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Karl Jobst should bring this as a topic on his videos, since he has a lot of reach and deals with similar scandals.

  • @ExperiencePath
    @ExperiencePath 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    TH-cam doesn't care, a copyright lawsuit is far more important to them then any video on their platform.

  • @crimsonray9414
    @crimsonray9414 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    I’m just gonna comment so this can get more traction in the TH-cam algorithm, but still this is the most outrageously insane think I have heard for a while and I can say for everyone that we’re with you on this one. The more traction this gets and the more bad publicity TH-cam gets for this the better.

    • @dominicmedina7755
      @dominicmedina7755 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s outrageous! And it’s unfair!

  • @TMan2008M
    @TMan2008M 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    MrBadim is not cooking ngl

    • @jacobwinter9649
      @jacobwinter9649 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Get him out of the kitchen

  • @VOX_reall
    @VOX_reall 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    You should start a go-fund-me to get yourself a lawyer because this is ridiculous

  • @lunasophia9002
    @lunasophia9002 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    The thing about people like this is that they project onto others. They project their insecurities, they project their bad behaviors, they project their fears, onto others.

    • @M33f3r
      @M33f3r 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They cry out in pain as they strike you to try and muddy the waters as wel. Classic villain tactics.

  • @azuarc
    @azuarc 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    18:30 If it seems like they didn't read your claim, it's because they didn't. It's an automated response. Real people don't look at those.

  • @Zalders
    @Zalders 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Whenever people dont have a valid argument they do the dumbest crap like this

  • @troysinnovations4858
    @troysinnovations4858 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I'm convinced that not one single human is involved with the review process. Theres simply no way.

  • @burnt_nard
    @burnt_nard 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    I'm sorry to hear that bro! How tf does Badim continue by harrassing people that AREN'T involved... Ngl that's a psycho move

  • @shadowsonicsilver6
    @shadowsonicsilver6 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    I hope this hunter feels the full effect of the Streisand effect.

  • @carythacker8049
    @carythacker8049 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +273

    GIRL I'M INVESTED 😭

    • @twotruckslyrics
      @twotruckslyrics 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      SAME i literally just dropped everything

    • @FTMothman
      @FTMothman 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@twotruckslyrics your pfp and name are amazing

    • @JagArFlicka
      @JagArFlicka 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Same

    • @beetlepainter00
      @beetlepainter00 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I havent watched the original video yet, (and now probably wont be able to) but this has gotten me so invested too!

    • @puffii_
      @puffii_ 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      SO REAL

  • @loreleifae4730
    @loreleifae4730 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Dang, I haven't paid attention to TH-cam drama like this in like a decade. Go off fireb0rn.

  • @Theguyoverthere603
    @Theguyoverthere603 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    There's no way a real person looked at your claims, this is insane.

  • @jerrymanjoe
    @jerrymanjoe 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    As much as it sucks, you should probably get a lawyer to help you out with this entire situation.

  • @a_newcomer9403
    @a_newcomer9403 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Okay this situation is fucked but the kitty in the background is so cute oh my god look at them stretch at 3:56

  • @ladylielac
    @ladylielac 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    14:05 I realize there's a cat in the background. Cat is now the most important thing about the video. What's the cat's name?

    • @fireb0rn
      @fireb0rn  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Grimm!

    • @monkeeboy830
      @monkeeboy830 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@fireb0rn beautiful

  • @budling5921
    @budling5921 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Weirdly enough, I wasn't very interested in watching the video myself, but learning what kind of a character Vadim is, it's got me to learn about him and waiting eagerly for the video to be reinstated.
    That's the Streisand Effect, everybody! Thanks for covering this Fireborn

    • @shytendeakatamanoir9740
      @shytendeakatamanoir9740 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well, the part where MrVadim sends his mother to harass fire's wife is still available.
      As is this video (which is yet another proof of him exploiting children for his own profit, including his own)
      That's already quite damning.
      Not necessarily worse than what was on the video , but it doesn't paint MrVadim in the best light, for sure.

  • @pranavbadrinathan6693
    @pranavbadrinathan6693 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    When I first saw the Badim video, I was fearful they would copyright strike the video as TH-cam's copyright system when it comes to counterclaims sucks. Welp, here we are. All we can do now I suppose is wait and hope the video is reinstated asap so you can make back the time, money and effort you invested into the research and video!

  • @jamesoverholt634
    @jamesoverholt634 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    "It's the level 1 elixir collector from Clash of Clans" is such a hard bar

  • @Lvmelton415
    @Lvmelton415 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    You know TheFatRat actually had a big thing for this you might want to try and reach out to him as he is very against the wrongful copywrite that goes on in youtube and I remember him setting up some sort of fundraiser or something for it. Ik he does music and is more about that but it might be worth a shot.
    EDIT TFR's "THING" is specifically for smaller creators that can't fight against wrongful claims.

  • @erikfinlin8110
    @erikfinlin8110 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    IM SO INVESTED ITS UNREAL. Ive been watching the content for maybe 3-4 years now and gosh best of luck to this God Gamer.

  • @fostercirino7183
    @fostercirino7183 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Sounds like its time to talk to a lawyer

  • @SoraHjort
    @SoraHjort 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I would say lawyer up, and then put that in your next counter report saying that you and your lawyer are prepared to take not just the claimant but also youtube to court if youtube doesn't reverse it. that tends to get them to reverse such claims real quick.

  • @rainypie
    @rainypie 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I love yt being negligent and horrible to work with...

  • @radiant_repzzz3365
    @radiant_repzzz3365 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    3:55 cute cat stretches ( video highlight )

  • @jorissmal1769
    @jorissmal1769 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I have so much respect for you daring to ‘confront’ people regarding risky subjects and spreading the word. How awful is it that because of youtube’s horrible copyright system, the last two videos (which seemed to have a lot of effort put into) got taken doen for no one to see

  • @GhostIsAYandere
    @GhostIsAYandere 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    23:27 cat stop appearing

  • @gigglingaura8071
    @gigglingaura8071 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Almost dropped my controller when I saw this pop up. Jesus! That’s bull. Hope the video goes back up soon.

  • @curtisgmchale
    @curtisgmchale 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Keep at it

    • @fireb0rn
      @fireb0rn  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thanks Curtis. I appreciate the support!

  • @Lvmelton415
    @Lvmelton415 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I like how I have to watch these withen like the first few days just to be sure I watch it before its taken down

  • @Plus_Escapee
    @Plus_Escapee 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    We need to get Asmon in on this so Vadim gets big mad.

  • @DemonicAkumi
    @DemonicAkumi 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Him trying to silence the situation so he won't look bad...
    ...end up making himself look even worse.

    • @nardalis4832
      @nardalis4832 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      stupid people dont know how to not do stupid things xD

  • @MintyDude
    @MintyDude 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    "I didn't even practice" absolutely ruined me, that was one of the most hilarious things I have ever heard

  • @geneticwizard132
    @geneticwizard132 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Hoping this all turns out well! Also at 14:24 Zote in the background gets Got

  • @dizzle9638
    @dizzle9638 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    We need someone to be preserving these videos

  • @AbyssaloftheVoid
    @AbyssaloftheVoid 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Honestly, TH-cam has become that platform that no one really likes anymore, but can't leave because it's practically the only option. The platforms security is a complete and utter joke.

  • @imeandmyself3376
    @imeandmyself3376 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    "I have every intention of moving on from this drama as soon as dipshit, and his mom, son, uncle, auntie, daughter, or dog stop attacking my youtube account."
    DAMN this line goes hard

  • @Renzo-vm4rh
    @Renzo-vm4rh 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    This guy is just manipulating everyone for his own good at this point but the funny thing is, that the minute he gets accused of this he starts harassing Fire’s wife and manipulates his children even more just so he can get away with this stupid bull S. Also the guy is literally so selfish he USES his own kids for his own good

  • @scp-049
    @scp-049 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    TH-cam? Not being fair when it comes to DMCA takedowns? WHAAAAT? NO FRICKIN WAY MAN

    • @laurelkeeper
      @laurelkeeper 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Why do you have TH-cam access in your containment chamber?

    • @scp-049
      @scp-049 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@laurelkeeper They gave me an ipad specifically to watch Fireborn

    • @laurelkeeper
      @laurelkeeper 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@scp-049 researchers are kinda based ngl
      I'll recommend them for promotion

    • @scp-049
      @scp-049 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@laurelkeeper I will let them know, user LaurelKeeper

  • @NadirEatsRocks
    @NadirEatsRocks 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Friend, I know you're worried about cost but seriously. Sue this jerk. Even just threatening it should be enough to make him back off, and if things do escalate to a proper lawsuit, he'll be required to cover your court expenses if he loses (which he should. I genuinely don't imagine his nonsense holding up in court)

  • @BlueSR
    @BlueSR 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    every badim accusation is a confession

  • @Aurgouros
    @Aurgouros 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I am not the one to normally like a video, but this absolute insanity that you have to face makes even myself feel angry for these ludicrous issues that you have to face. I feel empathy in places I never thought I would have before from what you have to face. This one person attempting to attack you and your family for exposing the reality on him is not what you'd expect, as it is so much more worse than just attempting to take down your video, along with Badim using their own family to help their own illegal course of action can make anyone loathe them and I hope that you can find solace with these issues. I hope that you can resolve these issues and live without these issues from you doing what is morally right. I wish I could give you something to help you with this, however I can't, but I will still like your video even if it doesn't actually do anything for you. I pray for your victory fireb0rn

  • @shadow7179
    @shadow7179 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    no way this guy (Badim) is doing all this by himself, he has to be working with professional troll farms

    • @silphv
      @silphv 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      Well he's using his familly. But "all this" being a few days of whining and petty harrassment and a few minutes spent filling out multiple claim forms is not really a big operation. It seems way too easy actually.

  • @angelindenile
    @angelindenile 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    "Why is the level of scrutiny applied to my couterclaim greater than the level of scrutiny applied to the takedow?"
    This question sums up all the issues with yt's copyright claim/takedown system. I hope you all stay safe and everything goes well.

  • @Dradeeus
    @Dradeeus 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    As an aside, 4:12 Biiig stretchies

  • @thereminn
    @thereminn 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    god, the more that I hear about mrbadim, the more i DESPERATELY hope that it gets proven he is VadimGod, and hopefully the legal repercussions he would face afterwards can humble his vile person

  • @thalassophile_artist
    @thalassophile_artist 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I really admire your persistence, Fire. Unfortunately, these type of people always win. I know from experience. There is no line they will not cross to get what they want and someone always ends up getting hurt. Still, I hope I'm wrong and sending you support

  • @thehonorableshadow9530
    @thehonorableshadow9530 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The youtube bot fr was like, "I ain't reading all that"

  • @SparkyDragon
    @SparkyDragon 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is a ridiculous situation. I hope everything gets resolved promptly.

  • @ahoyladies8520
    @ahoyladies8520 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Genuine question, what stops you from re-posting the video with those 8 seconds edited out, or even just the picture blurred out? I watched your whole video about him and you clearly put in a lot of effort and presented it super professionally, really sucks to see that he’s tryna take it down

    • @hollythecat410
      @hollythecat410 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      His (Fire’s) account might get terminated by another false takedown request on the reupload if he does that

    • @jewels3846
      @jewels3846 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is his second strike. 3 and his accounts terminated. Gamerant/screenrant striked one of the videos he made right before this whole saga but I didnt see that one so am unaware what they are covering up

  • @NoamAlmog-dz9zv
    @NoamAlmog-dz9zv 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    This copyright abuse is absolutely revolting. I will do whatever is in my ability to help you bring this scumbag to justice.

  • @RageGS
    @RageGS 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    This is the real Silksong content

  • @redpandah3309
    @redpandah3309 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    If ANYONE has a copy of a video. Please re-upload it on every possible social media!

  • @theoctoking5781
    @theoctoking5781 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Side note, I love your cat in the background

  • @bradyanderson1229
    @bradyanderson1229 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I'm invested in this, and outraged at TH-cam's response to Badim's actual illegal activity. Hope this turns around for you Fire

  • @mkinnune29
    @mkinnune29 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    i honestly wasnt paying attention for like the first minute, i was looking at the cat in the background :D this edit is VERY important, 3:56 BEEG stretch

  • @TheNamesFathom
    @TheNamesFathom 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    and here I was thinking TH-cam just might have learned from the whole MagnatesMedia situation a few months ago

  • @defnotanny
    @defnotanny 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I am so glad to hear that they DMd you already, its literally insane that they need Twitter to do any kind of customer support

  • @deathwarrior6962
    @deathwarrior6962 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    The Jimquisition should pick this up. She/they would be very invested in how this goes due to their prior issues with developers. (Edited to correct pronouns.)

    • @k8rgrl
      @k8rgrl 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Jim steph sterling uses she/they, these days, by the way.
      Edit: awesome, thanks!

  • @half-magic8847
    @half-magic8847 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    It’s frustrating that video discussing important topics and describing valid criticism keep getting taken down. TH-cam shouldn’t be using AI to decide weather or not a augment is valid as it isn’t their job to decide if an arguments is valid or not and clearly the AI they use is unable to make fare verdicts. I wish you the best of luck with your video, hope it gets put back up soon.

    • @timedeathe
      @timedeathe 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      TH-cam is too large for not using ai at This point

    • @half-magic8847
      @half-magic8847 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      True, but the AI either needs to get good or simply issues like this need to be addressed by a real person.

  • @SpaceHazmat
    @SpaceHazmat 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    3:53 The cat really woke up hearing it was still going on

  • @neineinfachnein4497
    @neineinfachnein4497 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    1:22 Tiny twitch
    3:55 Big strech
    4:13 Another big strech
    6:02 Tiny kick
    8:50 Another tiny kick
    9:23 Another tiny kick
    9:30 Back to back a tiny kick
    9:34 3 kicks in almost 10 seconds
    10:00 Tiny twitch
    10:12 Whole body twitch
    11:10 Can't hide the kick
    11:23 Multiple kicks
    11:45 Tail twitching
    11:55 Another one
    12:29 Tini tiny kick
    12:41 Kick
    13:01 Whole Body twitch
    13:19 Double Kick
    13:25 Huge movement
    14:03 Sudden licking
    14:21 Roll
    14:33 Ear twitch
    14:46 Ear twitch
    15:04 Ear twitch
    15:55 Zote got kicked
    17:25 Another roll
    19:59 Another roll
    20:10 Yet another roll with a HUGE strech across the textbox
    20:27 Crazy movement
    20:44 More crazy movement

  • @BelBelle468
    @BelBelle468 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Gosh darn it! I hadn’t finished it yet!

    • @dominicmedina7755
      @dominicmedina7755 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      At least you got through this one in time