Will the 52 Year Old Fork Truck RUN? & Can I DRIVE it HOME? ~ RESCUING a 1960's Fork Truck ~ Part 2
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- The Spark Plugs were MISSING for YEARS. There was a mouse nest on TOP of EVERY cylinder. The motor was totally LOCKED UP. The Carb was FULL of white power. The distributor was BROKEN in half, and it needed a NEW head gasket............Now Do you REALLY think I'll drive it home?!?
Join me & this machine will amaze you!
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First off this is a late 60's Hyster (not a 70's, I was wrong) H60C Fork Truck that has a lifting capacity of 7000lbs. This machine has a 6 cylinder Gasoline F227 Continental Flat Head Engine. It has a HystaMatic transmission, which is basically a hydra-static style transmission, meaning it's an automatic and has no clutch, which is good and bad! It has air tires in the front and they look like they are holding air just fine!
Now for the bad!
The previous owners took out the spark plugs and for whatever reason they NEVER PUT THEM BACK IN! Then the machine was stored OUTDOORS where the weather and mice decided to fill up the top of the motor with rain and NASTY mouse nests!
As of recently, it was given to the guy I got it from due to it's issues. Since then he decided he didn't have the time to spend to make the machine usable again, and he was planning to scrap it!
That's where I came in, and I'm betting the motor is LOCKED UP!!
Let's find out if this 42 year old forklift is even salvageable and whether or not I should spend the time it might take to save it, we both know I WANT TO!!
I've been looking for a forklift in this size range, especially one that can drive on gravel / uneven surfaces, and I REALLY hope this machine is saveable!
Let's find out!
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If you have any suggestions, questions, or comments, please leave them below!
Thanks for stopping by, I truly appreciate your support!
#ForkTruckRescue #WillitStart #SalvageWorkshop
Son, you are living proof that it's hard work, NOT luck, that will change the world. Every time I tune in to this channel you blow me away by making one of these dinosaurs run. Maybe luck had a little to do with it, but not quitting, hard work and intelligence is what made that old Hyster go!!
Thank you Greg! I truly appreciate that!
I did not expect this so soon, what a treat.
You and Andrew Camarata certainly have an affinity for saving and utilizing old equipment. Then, squeezing every bit of useful life out of it. I could feel your satisfaction in bringing that baby back to life.
Well done!
Diesel Creek is another good machine salvage channel.
@@lordgarak
Just popped here to make the exact same comment. 😃😃👍👍
@@lordgarak Salvage and Matt at Diesel Ck don't whine like Camarata.
they don't always build them like they used to. obviously some newer is better but, for some dozers and fork lifts the old is just as good. or better if built to last
What about the carb god,Mustie1,he can save almost anything.
I thinks a fella has been watchin some VGG!
Love that guy as much as a straight man can! 😂😂😂👍
VGG ROCKS AND RULES U-TUBE " 100" Cheers from Jacksonville Florida
I had the same thought!
Of course I've been watching VGG!! Who hasn't? Derek is AWESOME!
You are both awesome. I’d love to have the space and time and money to do what you guys do. Keep up the good work!
“I’ll Be Dipped.”
Compression numbers are NOT mind blowing. They are a result of YOUR due diligence in prepping the cylinders/valves etc BEFORE attempting a start. Done exactly the way it should be. Congratulations on your success. Love your enthusiasm!
Amazing how good that engine sounds considering the abuse it suffered, you have just made a master level save👍👍👍
Yeah that in frame "rehab" was shade tree mechanic-ery at it's best.
@@TKevinBlanc Funny thing is, i was LITERALLY under a shade tree workin on this one!
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Good to see a skilled Mechanic at work fixing old school equipment.
Phoenix would be a good name being you brought it back from the dead.
That'd be spiffy.
I was thinking "Petunia" .
I third! Lol
The forklift from cars is called Guido. If you really wanted to have fun with it you could paint it sky blue with eyes and mouth. Or just print a picture of guido
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I would have suggested "Hiram," but Guido is good.
I was going to suggest Shyster, but Guido works too! :-)
Your the first time I have left a comment. I am 76 female and I have truly enjoyed watching you use your knowledge to fix this piece of machinery when young we used to work on cars. So enjoyable. Thank you.
Wow, thank you! Glad you enjoy the videos! Lots more to come!
If you notice... there is a small notch in the point body just below (as seen in video) the contacts. There is a corresponding slot in the distributor base plate. Put a flat blade screwdriver in there and you can fine adjust your points then lock them down with another screwdriver.
i have so much respect and admiration for your attention to detail approaches to your work. It is but one reason why your channel is so successful. You do a great job of explaining procedures to those of us who are not mechanically inclined. I have learned a great deal from watching your channel. Thank you !!!
Thank you Larry! That is a true compliment!
Im admiring that the put a fricken firing order on the casting. Great engineers on that one.
The quick part 2 follow up was really appreciated for Sunday watchin'
Great save from the scrapper!
i would dump that carb and put a stromberg 97 on it .😜
Lots of hard work on this one! VERY satisfying to hear it run!
I'm a yard manager and forklift driver for a builders merchants so it's great to see someone bringing old forklifts back to life and enjoying them again!I'm quite into everything counterbalance forklift so watching these videos is so nice to see! Well done for bringing this great machine back to life!
I watch a lot of "will it start" and revival type videos, but you are the first I've seen that does it the proper way. Or at the very least, shows it on the video
slot in the points base plate for screwdriver to adjust. just snug up screw then adjust.
For best power and economy adjust the points using a dwell meter. Compensates /averages out worn bushings and bent shaft. My memory says 32- 34 degrees- don't think I have a manual any more for industrial engines.
That Screw Diver you modified I was told is called a Clutch Head Screw, use to be used in old Travel Trailers. I ran into them in my Dad's 1960 Nomad.
I am a forklift operator. Everything from an old 3800 lb capacity CAT stand up to a 12, 000 lb capacity Mitsubishi sit down. Nice job on the Hyster, she's a beauty. Wish we had someone with your skills on our maintenance team.
we had the mate to it.at the shop.....it was a standard .with clutch set up.........and we called it ,the Shyster......
I hope there's a part 3... I'd love to see this 'M'yster in action. ;)
HA! I said the Hyster Myster too!!!!
Ye ol' yellow Myster,... Cool!
at the 3-4 minute mark...at the lower right (camera view) of the points there is a little hole with a slot in the points unit, and a slot in the distributer...you tighten the points screw so it grips a bit then stick a small screwdriver in that hole so that you can lever the points around as you check with the feeler gauge ...very simple...once they are at the gap you want, you tighten the screw a bit more and recheck that the gap didn't change...
glad i read the comments. I was going to make the same point. It is sure better than the fumbling you have to do to hold the points tight on the gauge, hold them against the cam, hold the gauge in them and then tighten the screw with your spare hand. Maybe he is used to working more on diesels and not very many distributors.
I like how you explain things so people can learn how to do things for themselves
You have that old school "never say die" attitude.. Excellent work...
Here is a tip from an old skooler, that slot at the end of the stationary half of the points is for fine gap adjustment, stick a screwdriver in it wth the lock screw snug and twist open or closed to desired gap
That's how I always did it on my VW van.
hysteria is what I have been calling it :D since it's a hyster and this was crazy :D
After seeing those pistons and sleeves, I thought, if he gets this thing running, he is the best mechanic on TH-cam. And he did it....
The leaking hydraulics are normal it's from sitting , ESPECIALLY the control module , it just needs a seal kit and a flush and it should work fine. I fixed a forklift when I was working for the army that had a problem like this. Sat for years and the seals just got hard and stopped working.
I totally believe that, bit the reason it's leaking isn't normal! Have no fear, ill show you!
I'm excited to see what you have for us. I watch everything you put out and it's always top of my list of things to watch on TH-cam. Keep up the good work.
I once saw a guy "fix" a leaking oils seal on a power steering unit by draining the oil out of it and filling it with gasoline, just the pump itself. Left it an hour or two then drained it and put the correct fluid back in, it was on a big old Dodge RAM camper truck. It did not leak after this and I drove it 12,000 plus more miles. Nope it wasn't me it was a country repair shop where I stopped to buy more power steering fluid. Anyone else seen this done or is it quite normal ?.
"Ole yeller" is an appropriate name. Love your videos.
Second that
I concur
"Old Yeller" got put down, this is rising up whoever it was that mentioned the "Phoenix" was appropriate in my opinion
Just make sure it has its rabies shots!
My first thought exactly.
Made my day and I know it's simple but the first name in my head was Harry Hyster. Maybe it's too simple but the best dog we ever had was copper coloured and thst was it. Love at first sight and he was Copper for fifteen years. Whatever it's your truck and I guess there's smarter suggestions but when you need a lift in the yard just ask Harry.
I suggest the name ‘Koldy’, it is the name of a yellow rubber duck. The Hyster is Yellow, with the (xtra) air front tires it will float on uneven ground, the engine is red like the beak. Love your videos.
You know I have watched most of your videos.. old red others you fixed.. it’s all good here.. at 70 years your so fun to watch.. keep going kid..you think the right way. .. I am all in on watching you..
I love seeing your excitement when you get stuff running. You were really pumped when Old Red fired up. Good for you brother. 👍
Since you like dogs, call it ol' yellow.
You're a very talented young man.
Have a Jesus filled day
Greg in Michigan
Ol' Yeller would be the perfect name!
Amen brother re: choice of names and the Lord; *God bless.*
Dan from West Michigan.
@@DanKoning777
West Michigan?
We're near Kalamazoo
@@greghomestead8366 // I'm only about 45 minutes from Kalamazoo; towards Wayland/Byron Center. Small world.
The seals on the control valves are "O" rings just under the cover plate on mine. You have side shift, I'm jealous! I maintained on of these H60's for a manufacturing plant in the 1990's. The driver did everything he could to break it. The best he could do was to break two sets of ujoints. I now own one that lived at a fertilizer plant. MAJOR corrosion!! Burns oil like it's free, but it holds down on the mosquitos... It's off road ability is great! I've used it for logging a tree or two on my little "farm". It will even push my old Greyhound motor home.
I run a Hyster 90 at work. It's new, but you can see the influence on the new machine from the old one. They are the proverbial "brick shiznithouse". We run them just about 24 7 with few problems. Engine is a Kubota 4 cyl that displaces around 4 liters! The older ones have a 4.3 Chevy V6, all on LPG. Congratulations on getting the old bird home. Runs impressively considering the condition you found it in.
The "yellow Submarine ".... really great vid man .. lots of info on these two vids ... well done ..
Just a high-five and a thanks for the walk thru as you revived this motor. The compression check, simple as it may seem to most, was a great moment of learning for me. I have the compression tool set & am 'reviving' an old F600 dump truck.
You did this one right. When I saw you knock the rust off with a cylinder hone, I thought... OH Yeah. For the hydraulic cylinder leaks... look into AT 205 seal conditioner. I've used it for leaking, old hydraulic cylinders and it works like magic. Used it to fix Acura power steering seal.. Boat hydraulic cylinders that were puking out fluid. AT 205 is the bomb! Seriously. For real. zies.
Dude this is the real restoration,no shit like restoring a lighter or some kind of simple stuff, you're a legend mate, keep it up 👏
Matt that "Specialty Screw Driver" was for "clutch head screws" GM used them for Rear fender screws on trucks years ago. I have them on my 1948 Chevy.
Learned it was a clutch driver in high school,forty some years ago.
Never saw where it got used since then.
The 1963 mobile home I demo'ed was built entirely with "clutch head" screws, Couldn't toss them into the trash fast enough.
@@steveaw5895 right you are!! They also used them for the horn ring on old GM steering wheels.
They are SO obsolete. I had an old Craftsman one that I wanted replaced under warranty. The guy in the store said just take another one.
Best part is tomorrow he will need that screwdriver. Because thats just how it works 😂😂.
ain't that the truth! You can have a tool in the box for years but the moment you modify it or pass it on to someone else, almost guaranteed within the week you'll find yourself needing it to progress a job that just can't be done without it. Way of the world, always has been always will. (Also applies to unused parts/junk you kept "just in case" it comes in useful one day. That day is generally 7 or less days from the moment you had a clear out and made space for other useful stuff.)
Top Job and interesting. It is so good to see an old machine get put back in to every day use.
Don't worry about weeping, gushing, holding, etc. Rebuild every cylinder...period!. Buff the rods (unless they are trashed), repack everything. Just because a cylinder is not leaking heavily doesn't mean that the seals are not dry, and brittle. You are moving some heavy stuff around at your place, dont be that guy and risk it. The repacking kits are NOT expensive, and it isn't worth risking loosing a seal with a load on the forks. The front shoes for the breaks are available, cut the rotors, replace the lines. Don't be cheap when it comes to the safety of the machine. The rear steering cylinder is easy to pull off and repack as well. How you handle the repairs to the safety and lifting systems will tell A LOT about you and your priorities. A name....since you salvaged it how about calling it "Sal"
HYLDA THE HYSTER is my vote... Great Job! Thanks for sharing
The screwdriver style that you made your jet tool from is called "clutch head". Hardly see them anymore but at one time they were used in Olsen truck bodies as well as GM bus bodies and a few other applications.
Was just going to say the same thing. My '49 GMC 2 Ton uses those for much of the cab hardware.
I had a guy in a shop tell me one time an easy way to remember in line 6 firing order. To young(15), to old(36), just right(24). I've never forgotten that firing order since lol
Dogs were excited to hear it coming, they knew who was bringing another one home!
The reason you don't have air tires in the rear is the massive counterweight, you would wear out the air tires' immediately they have to be solid tires
I could see that being true, but I've seen plenty of machines with air tires back there. That's what made me curious about changing them!
@@SalvageWorkshop My H70C Hyster has rear air tires and dual air front tires.
Totally incorrect - The standard tyres were pneumatic. Minimum 80 PSI. Solid tyres were used in locations were punctures were prevalent. For work in containers and the like air tyres were preferred as they didn't pound the steel floors as much. The H60C thru H90C was the mainstay product for Hyster lift truck range for many many years and the envy of many other brands.
@@SalvageWorkshop It all depend on the application you use the Pneumatic or solid tires for. Around a workshop helping with lifting etc, Pneumatic tires. If for yard work ie loading/unloading trucks etc coming in and out, Solid tires.
Big yellows fine but I think someone must have seen your pat pending idea and gone back in time and invented it 20 years ago 😁
You are one heck of a mechanic. We'll done
I've been driving forklifts 8 hrs a workday for over 20 years. I learned to drive on a Hyster. We used to paint an "S" in front of the HYSTER and call it a SHYSTER! lol
Damn that was a quick hour! Gotta admit I was sitting here grinning like an idiot the whole time. For a name, if you keep it yellow, like the excellent old movie, you can call it 'Old Yeller' in reference to the star of the movie - an old yellow lab dog. Thanks VERY much for the show! (I'm going to check if you have any coffee mug merchandise)
Michelle says you should name it “forked up”
Lol... i love that... that's definetly up there in the running!
Nicely done. Call it old Yeller!
We have a hyster 50 made in 69 that is absolutely worn out, but starts and runs and just won’t die. We have had it since 84
The compression on Cyl #6 was very surprising. Good work.
Im going with the "Heyster Myster"!!!!! Also I thought it was brilliant that you covered your licence plate on your van with the Salvage Workshop logo lol nice little touch!
More accurate method for setting points: there is a slot built into the distributor and the points for a slotted screwdriver (visible on the right side of the points in your video) that enables you to twist the screwdriver to open and close the points before locking them down. The drawback to adjusting them the way you have done in the video is that there is some residual spring in the points, and when you remove the gauge after tightening the screw they’ll close slightly making the gap smaller than what you set. Using that slot enables taking that tension off the spring steel before locking.
Long live the Shyster, job well done!!
You should try a shotgun bore brush for cleanup of the accelerator pump next time. Great videos. Keep up the great work 👍
Here's something of interest: "The name "Hyster" was allegedly derived from a term commonly used by logging workers in the Pacific Northwest at the end of the 19th century. When a load of lumber was ready to be transported, a logger would yell "hoist 'er". According to the Hyster Company web page, this term became synonymous with Hyster trucks." (Google, of course!)
Having those loving hounds greet you at the end of the day - priceless.
Miraculous, I learned a lot from these two videos. Thanks from 🇨🇦
This is amazing 👏, i cant believe how good its running, ive always wondered if a locked up engine with rust cylinders could be revived with a hone job without removing the pistons. Good job man! You did what many have thought about doing but never dared to actually do it to see if it'll work. Mad props!
If you want to give it a name call it Clark
You need to borrow Jonathan’s crane to fix the lift boom leak seal
I have a Hyster H60C that was made in 1965 that I'm about to start restoring. I'm sure these videos will be very helpful to me. Thanks in advance!
Nice gas tank setup. I built 1 of those myself in a 5 gallon bucket. Mounted an in tank electric fuel pump from a car with 2 long leads & alligator clips. Teed off the fuel line with a gauge, valve & return hose to the bucket so I could regulate the pressure from zero to close to 100 PSI. Worked great for moving stuff with bad fuel pumps up onto my lift.
The "C5" in the serial number is known as the unit code, the "D" is the factory code which in this case is Danville. The last letter "N" is the year of manufacture which is most likely 1969 as the last production year for that code was 2015 and the one before that was 1992..
What he said
So it was made in danville . Va? In 1969?
@@flir67man84 My Hyster Spec Book says Danville IL, which i think is Illinois (I'm British), a quick google search confirms Hyster dos have a factory there....
@@woods457 Spot on. Hyster HQ was in Portland Oregon, Danville was their big plant but they also built their compaction equipment in Peoria.
Nice save for sure, would be nice to see a couple more video's on restoring the mast etc👍
The one and only, FORKY!!!
Play Safe From Elliot Lake Ontario Canada.
Great video. These machines will not get stuck on soft ground as long as you are moving when you steer. Don't move when you're steering and you're stuck. Keep up the videos. Cheers
You will get more consistent and accurate readings if you run your compression test with all plugs removed.
Nice work 👍
Thank you!
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@@SalvageWorkshop you better be forklift certified
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We had that forklift in a foundry my boss bought. No brakes ever. No matter who “fixed” it. Sketchy as F but reliable, and powerful just honestly it was to big for the space. My boss brought it home and is still using it 25 years later around home.
Chet Larson has a big rig with a locked up engine. I know you could fix it. You two should get together and make the ULTIMATE video!!! LARSON FARMS + SALVAGE WORKSHOP = GOLD!
Now that you cut up that screwdriver that you've never used, you're going to encounter that drive type everywhere. Then when you buy another of that driver, you'll never use it again.
Paint it like the Scooby Doo van and call it the “Hystery Machine”
The letter N at the end of the serial number tells you the year of manufacture, so your machine is a 1969. I worked on these for years and they are truly bulletproof.
Interesting way to solve removal tool problem! Really enjoyed this episode!
You could just call it "Yellow Lift Machine"... There's a whole parody of "Yellow Submarine" waiting to be born right there...
I like the way you explain what and why you are doing. I just learned how to efficiently find the firing order. THX.
You already called it . The old beast.
My first rebuild was a 1968 ArticCat snowmobile (back in the 80s) it was my fathers and it had been sitting unused out in the weeds for years. It was the first project he let me work on all on my own. I cleaned it, painted it and drove it around until i sold it in the mid 90s
Call the beast "Hero". I've worked on the Hero factory in Breda, North-Brabant, The Netherlands., lemonades and tinned meals on exactly this type of heftruck, as we call it in Holland. Also worked with Clarks and a couple of other forklifts. Very nice time, good factory to work in and excellent maintained. So I have good memories of working on this "heftruck". Nice vid, I've learned a lot of it. Thanks and good luck.
Do the duals in the front but leave the solids in the rear no flats. You could get the rear tires regrooved if you have access to a regroover or get an industrial tire shop to do it. Nice to see old machines saved in a throw away world.
Your videos are very thorough & I look forward to them. After nearly 50 yrs as a pro & now amateur (went into electronics somewhere..) this kind of stuff is now my fun! I just gave up on the Zenith carb on my '72 Case 30+4 and fabbed (you can see my amateur in it..) a manifold and bought a$50 EBay VW 34 pict and installed same.. Electric choke & shutoff... Fired on the 1ST key and runs better than ever!!
The Moto IV Model 1 is an stellar idea. I don’t think there was ever a question you’d get it running, after all ...Ole Red...nuff said.
Excellent, clean it up then paint it. Dual wheels on front also, air tires on rear would be a great asset on your property. Good luck ! You are doing a great job. All the best.
Hydraulic fluid always wants to escape! Great job on another resurrection. People would rather throw things away than cleaning or repair them.
Nice job. Really great to have. Let's get those cylinders fixed on O'L Hester. Thanks!
was in a hit-and-run car accident 2 yrs ago so to give me a chance to type. I'm now just learning how to talk... sorry.. The Florida pool pump motor repair guy approved ! that was good info SW
A lesson on points to that extent is appreciated.
The yellow jack! Patent pending on decision 😂
"Back from the Dead ". I am a sucker for this kind of work ! Engine sounds so good ! Thank you for this wonderful video .
You got Ol Red. Now you got “Ol Yeller”
Tip. See the slot in the end of the points.....on the contact end? It matches up with an identical slot in the points plate. Leave the lock screw snug and use the slots to open/close the point gap. Much easier than trying to fat finger the point gap.
Love the red and blue Sear’s Craftsman screw drivers. I would bet that the majority of tool boxes have Craftsman tools in it.
Man, I can't believe the work you put into these machines. Don't know when you have time to make a living.....Good job
I worked at the main uk dealership for Hyster ( Barlow Handling ) I was the service manager at the prep centre for 10 years . The engine has the continental side valve which is almost unbustable. The first thing to check on these engines is the valve clearances. Because the adjusters are under the manifold the manifold has to be removed to check them as a consequence they were never checked and close up so the valves don’t close properly. The other issue with these engines is overheating due to blown head gasket due to warped head and the head studs get thread weary and in some cases the block can crack across the middle cylinders were it is quite thin. Overheating was caused in many cases due to not paying attention to leaks and simply running out of coolant, also we found many machine had the cowling around the radiator missing which is important to direct the air through the radiator it is not just a guard. The Hyster dealer should have all the information regarding the age, where and when it was manufactured. I used to have a Hyster book with all the info but it’s lost. The transmission providing it’s not leaking from the torque converter seal ( throwing oil out of the top the transmission) should last forever. They were a fantastic machine.