Yeah that's more like it.all these new BM,s have great performance but wat will they be like to own 10 yrs down the road there good up to 3 yrs old after that a nightmare wen all the tech starts packing up e39s,E90,s will still be going strong when all the new stuff is spares or repair
i think hes winding down as the writting is in the wall about electric and autonomy. The dull depressing future that awaits is gonna be crushing to enthusiasts. He said it here in the video, soon to be replaced by electric. It almost seems by his mood and demeanor that hes read a sad article about the future of cars before he made the video.
Just moved from an F80 to a G80 and Chris is unbelievably on point when he said it has lost a lot of character but really makes up for it in capability. The generational leap has never been bigger. I will miss the insanity of the F80, but in the same way I do not miss the insanity of a crazy ex girlfriend. Growing up can be sad and beautiful at the same time.
Beautifully spoken . I came from an f82 and now own a g80 and it’s exactly how you described . I grew up , I have a kid .. I kinda enjoy the comfort and “niceness” of the g80 compared to the f82 .
A little late to the party but couldn’t agree more. I have a 4 month old and felt the visceral feeling of the f80 was too much and I quickly realized my tastes had changed. The f80 had the smell of ethanol, the smell of the catless down pipes, the obnoxiously loud r888r tires, and the loud exhaust. But I’ve been stock on the g80 for a month now and I certainly don’t miss the insanity of my ex in the slightest. If anything, I find more pleasure now in how the car is in stock form.
@@Akkbar21 does it matter? It's the kind of video he clearly loves making, and the kind of video we love watching. So they can help themselves to the views and ratings in my opinion. It's great.
@@JonahRavi Oh no, he doesn't blurt out nonsensical and dry british humor all the time, but instead actually talks about cars??? what a travesty for a car show.. Jesus the senile old trio sucks compared to Chris alone.
Top gear hasn't been a real car show since it's relaunch in the early noughties. At least it's got somebody who actually knows what he's talking about now. Chris is fantastic. My favourite.
Love the honesty of this review. Bet all the youtuber “influencers” will all sing all its praises in case BMW might not send them a Christmas card. Chris does what he wants! 👍🏼
Sene Shmee’s video on the launch of this car? He never mentioned the looks of it. All he did was ask how the viewers felt. Annoyed me that he didn’t adress the elephant (literally) in the room.
What he did never mention : 2021 M3 weight : 3840 lbs , thats almost 400 lbs of extra added weight compared to its previous model ( 2020 M3 weight 3490 lbs ) so the new M3 its extremely heavy
@@pupton5525 I've always thought a Harris Rix Reed trio would work , I just don't understand why they never gave Jack Rix a chance on the big screen as a proper presenter
@@pupton5525 he's an editor (I think the number 1 editor) on the top gear site and the one who does most of the youtube stuff for top gear, he's pretty funny and technical , he'd definitely work as a presenter
@@DefinitelyNotEmma I'm sorry, but you're fucking dellusional... The CSL is one of the all time greats. Flowing, cohesive, simple yet achingly beautiful lines. This is a dumpster fire on wheels. The design is a shocking mess. I like to give all cars the benefit of the doubt, but here there is no doubt. And it's not just the grille. The rest of the front is equally bad, and as Chris points out there is no coherence what so ever. I can't imagine what is going on at BMW for them to sign off on this. It's fucked.
All other journalists: “Let’s see who gets the 5 stars first!” The only journalist whose drifts are ALL 5 stars: “Pathetic feature...” Gotta love Chris! 😂
Can totally relate to it feeling like it has M x-Drive, ridiculous traction from the rear axle. Can't wait to try one on track soon.... Glad Chris kinda likes it!
@@johnjuiceshipper4963 If the guy wants to write 100 comments stating how ugly the car looks in his eyes he can do that. Instead of writing comments telling people what they should or shouldn't do go do something productive.
I seriously love this car... The flawed looks combined with the powerful beastly engine makes me want to own one even more. This car is kinda like a brute, angry, battle-scarred general with armor piercing rounds
so it's a let down by the ZF (instead of DCT), and the engine feels like a more powerful M340i, otherwise the steering and handling are a lot better even though it weighs at ~1730kg, and, may mean something more significant for some people, with a bit less personality comparing with F8X - that’s how i’d summarize Chris’ comment
@@shvkpr1 i’ve watched that too (and a few others). I value responsiveness over smoothness. I drive a manual F80, I chose that over the DCT, not to mention a torque-converter automatic 😅
@Mr. M5 Maybe they did, but that’s what set this car apart from the crowd where everything looks the same. At least with BMW you have differentiation. Look at Audi and Benz, you can’t tell their lineup apart if you are not looking at the back of their cars...
Yah heard that. Whoever designed the car must be fired. You cannot continue allowing folks to piss of the the customers. When this many folks complain , you’ve done something wrong
Man this car makes me love my E92 so much more. This car just doesn’t look, sound or seem special. Dropping 5k on interior carbon bits doesn’t make it feel special sorry
I've never cared much for many of the M4 cars hence why I own a S5, but had a E92 for a few months and completely agree. that car really really impressed me in so many ways. only thing since then has been the M2.
Snap. I had my F82 from new and sold with 36k on the clock. I recently bought a frozen edition E92 with 20k on it and from driving back to back, the E92 feels so much more responsive!
@@carlhughes8312 don't compare that fraud Matt Watson with Chris Harris. Harris is an experienced racing driver and knows his stuff. Matt Watson just does pointless drag races with that idiot Yiannimize. Their audience are minors 😂😂😂
He’s right that all the tension has gone out of the design. Very strange. I think it wouldn’t take much to sort out the current generation of mistakes however. That front grille could look alright with a clean-up of the angles and better integration, so as to carve out a 3D snout (think Chiron front grille).
Good ol' 'Chris Harris On Cars' with Chris and Neil, let The Grand Tour keep the flame of that car entertainment old TG alive while new TG revolves around Chris Harris
If you want connection you go for a Miata. People aren't in the market for crotch rockets anymore and its time to accept that. You cannot compare your car and this, its a different era of engineering.
@@teamracing07 Why would you NOT want a manual? The GT3 already proved high power manuals are effective. Plus the bigger reason is the 8 speed torque converter auto. It's not as good of a transmission as the DCT and too smooth and a bit slower. The manual seems better engineered for the car here since it's been reworked apparently and the manual car weighs less and has less hp. Plus the manual is always more fun and rewarding to drive.
Me too! Really close to buying one and I don’t get the fuss of the looks. Probably from people who don’t own one nor plan on buying one. My personal opinion.
Im a guy with both an M4 and a Tesla so I'm basically better placed than any person to comment, it's all about preference. As a daily driver, don't have to hear the engine drown on in traffic, instant torque is more helpful is always the faster car in and around town driving, autopilot in the traffic leaves you far less tired, in that respect the Tesla is a far better car than my M4. As a car I want to have fun in, rip around bends, rev to 7500rpm for the heck of it, take it out occasionally on a cruise, the M4 is a far better car. So what's my point? It depends what you are looking for. A daily driver or a car for the weekends and fun. Or better yet, get both like me haha
@@supaahflyy 2 very nice cars sir, what he's saying though is he doesn't want to be forced to just drive electric. That will probably be the future. You yourself, as an M4 owner must be disappointed with that option, as you have it now?? Enjoy.
@@tim3437 Ahh yeh the UK regulations and all. Im in Australia and lets just say we have dinosaurs in Government. They dont even have any incentives to buy electric infact here in Victoria, its going to be first state in the world taxing electric cars haha. So that paints a picture of how slowly our 'transition' away from petrol cars to electric cars is going. Unfortunately the UK government for you guys is much faster and only has 9 years of selling new petrol cars. I think it would be awesome/wise to keep a hold of your favourite petrol cars after 2030. Can only imagine they appreciate in value too
@@tim3437 that is the MAIN problem with electric cars, politics force people to drive them. If we would just keep several drivetrains, no one would hate on electric cars, trust me. All i know is autonomous cars are coming fast, and that will be a problem for a lot of people.
I don't think it's brilliant, but I can instantly think of worse looking cars: fiat multipla, Land Rover discovery, Mini Paceman, Every peugeot from 2000 to 2015. We'll get used to it and to be fair in that bright green that they used for the M4 launch car does actually look really good.
His name is Domagoj Dukec and has been lead design since 2019, he's still employed unfortunately. Yet another person who comes into a new job and thinks they need to change things (often for the worse) just to justify being there.
My favourite Chris video ever was his “a 320d is all you ever need”… also, back to the last gen the only reviewer to put engine etc in sport plus but keep the dampers in comfort. As it should be… legend.
he is awesome but whe his in a bmw , its always going to be the same outcome.....an amazing car etc etc. he may give some constructive criticism but thays about it
@@jassimaltoki3580 I have driven many a m3.... my favourite is the e92 m3.....they generally are all a great car as they should be given what they are an 'm' series model. i would just like more negative comments from Chris where valid but all good. like to me the sound in the cabin and from outside the car didn't sound special at all , at least from a video point of view. anywaya all good .
i swear every one who is not even a BMW fan says "the ________ model was better bcuz this and that, the newer ones just aren't as good as they used to be" and don't give a single reason to say so
Three successive generations I've owned M3s. My F80 was my last, unfortunately. The new car is hideous, has confused lines (profile and rear) the interior is dreary and ultimately, it has lost what makes an M3 great. No more soul.
@@SavageBunny1 that’s what I hate people said the same thing about the F80 now look stfu you’re gonna buy one as soon as you see someone slam it with some HRE CF lip and an exhaust
@@SavageBunny1 eh, I always liked the F80. The first day it came I genuinely thought "Man that is one good-looking thing, F82 is even better". The new one... the G80 is kind of growing on me in terms of look but the G82 is still lacking cohesiveness in its design.
What BMW wanted was to NOT play it safe. Make it polarising. Some will hate it, like yourself, some will love it, like myself. That's what they wanted. They didn't want a boring Audi that tries to offend no one and ultimately looks boring
Facts. Unbiased & Unapologetic, Other TH-cam motoring journalists tend to be overzealous about it instead of being unemotionally objective, like they're speaking to impress someone.
Chris, can you comment on your association with Collecting Cars the huge piston heads thread and how someone nearly got caught out and ripped off to £130,000 on a destroyed GT3?
@@senoow4215 for some reason people think m cars are/were cheap? They've always been expensive relative to the era they were released. It's an M. What do people expect
@@supaahflyy yeah but this is like over 110k punds fully loaded lol, would rather get any other car in that price range, model S, Audi e tron, older gen c63s that u can get new for under 100k etc
@@senoow4215 oh shit really? 110k? Sheesh I didn't know that. All the reviewers I've seen have said 75k starting and then you can add a few options and you'll be up to 85k realistically unless you go bonkers and add carbon ceramics and the carbon seats and the useless m performance parts. It's kinda like if you ticked every option of a Porsche, it can get stupid priced really quickly but in reality no one clicks every option because they aren't adding anything to them. For example the carbon seats and carbon ceramics being unticked will save you probably over 10k and for 99% of people who won't track the car, they aren't adding anything to their experience
@@supaahflyy a good spec g80 will run you circa 90k not 110k. Still way too much to be paying for a car that looks like that! And im sure the f80 is thicker and meaner looking.
It’s absolutely hideous. No other way to say it. Not because it’s big, plenty of big grills out there that look good. The overall design execution is just bad.
Think you have that spot on Chris. Another class review. Just can’t see how that design works, never once made me think that looks impressive. The previous version has so much more presence.
The front end would look amazing, without atrocious overwhelming grill taking up so much real estate. Think I've seen a photoshopped version somewhere with a 'normal' grill, and it looks fantastic. Shame
Prefer your M3s a bit more old school? Here's The Stig drifting the n/a E92 BMW M3 GTS: th-cam.com/video/WPIyvcRz3HM/w-d-xo.html
Yeah that's more like it.all these new BM,s have great performance but wat will they be like to own 10 yrs down the road there good up to 3 yrs old after that a nightmare wen all the tech starts packing up e39s,E90,s will still be going strong when all the new stuff is spares or repair
With Chris Harris Top Gear can become bigger then the "real" Top Gear. He is 🤟🏻
I love the fact video is basically Chris Harris on cars
Chris doing what he knows better than anyone
I agree..
Thats what it should be.
Filmed by Neil
i think hes winding down as the writting is in the wall about electric and autonomy. The dull depressing future that awaits is gonna be crushing to enthusiasts. He said it here in the video, soon to be replaced by electric. It almost seems by his mood and demeanor that hes read a sad article about the future of cars before he made the video.
The nostalgic editing and background music. It could only be Chris Harris on cars 😍
Fucking great stuff
Bring back CHOC!
Amazing video....thanks top gear for let Chris do what he knows better than anyone.
Gotta be Neil editing
Well said 🤣 got to love chris
Just moved from an F80 to a G80 and Chris is unbelievably on point when he said it has lost a lot of character but really makes up for it in capability. The generational leap has never been bigger. I will miss the insanity of the F80, but in the same way I do not miss the insanity of a crazy ex girlfriend. Growing up can be sad and beautiful at the same time.
Beautifully spoken . I came from an f82 and now own a g80 and it’s exactly how you described . I grew up , I have a kid .. I kinda enjoy the comfort and “niceness” of the g80 compared to the f82 .
@@thijst5571 equally well spoken. Same story here. Wishing you all the best in life mate :)
A little late to the party but couldn’t agree more. I have a 4 month old and felt the visceral feeling of the f80 was too much and I quickly realized my tastes had changed. The f80 had the smell of ethanol, the smell of the catless down pipes, the obnoxiously loud r888r tires, and the loud exhaust. But I’ve been stock on the g80 for a month now and I certainly don’t miss the insanity of my ex in the slightest. If anything, I find more pleasure now in how the car is in stock form.
Looking into getting one but what you say resonates what I want these days
Ahhh, Topgear letting Chris do what he wants with content. Love it.
Wrong... exploiting your love of his TH-cam channel for views and ratings.
Well said mate!
I miss Chris Harris On Cars (CHOC)
That's the secret to success.
@@Akkbar21 does it matter?
It's the kind of video he clearly loves making, and the kind of video we love watching.
So they can help themselves to the views and ratings in my opinion. It's great.
The good old days of Chris Harris on cars .. no scripted monologues , no motoring journalist silly statements , just an honest fun review .. love it .
Good old days? Buddy he is shit compared to what Jeremy Clarkson did on the show
@@JonahRavi he is referring to Chris's youtube days....
@@JonahRavi Oh no, he doesn't blurt out nonsensical and dry british humor all the time, but instead actually talks about cars??? what a travesty for a car show.. Jesus the senile old trio sucks compared to Chris alone.
@@JonahRavi Jeremy was good entertainer but he never was into cars 😂 His trio just use cars to sit in while telling jokes
Top gear hasn't been a real car show since it's relaunch in the early noughties. At least it's got somebody who actually knows what he's talking about now. Chris is fantastic. My favourite.
Chris Harris on Cars is one of the best things that has ever happened to automotive journalism. Simply fantastic!
Kind of you to say so!
True Words. 100%
@@chrisharris4740bro thinks he's chris harris
It's so good to see Chris in his element, minimal to no scripting and great camera work with no silly top gear editing.
You must LOVE the silliness of Donut Media😂🤣
@@fitnessguru8012 I do like some of their stuff tbf
Love the honesty of this review.
Bet all the youtuber “influencers” will all sing all its praises in case BMW might not send them a Christmas card.
Chris does what he wants! 👍🏼
Sene Shmee’s video on the launch of this car? He never mentioned the looks of it. All he did was ask how the viewers felt. Annoyed me that he didn’t adress the elephant (literally) in the room.
Exactly. We also will see them configurate/ take delivery/ drive it, because they never pay the pleb-prices 🤥👏👏👏
Yeah you have to go to the big boys to get an honest review sometimes. His review of the RR cullinan was perfect.
@@didrikhalsoy5994 He's soooooo crap. Just a rich boy, NOT an actual journalist.
Could not agree more!
Unbiased , straight to the point, informative, Extraordinary Presenter and no fancy language - Secret to heaven
What he did never mention : 2021 M3 weight : 3840 lbs , thats almost 400 lbs of extra added weight compared to its previous model ( 2020 M3 weight 3490 lbs ) so the new M3 its extremely heavy
@@juancruz-jg5pq lol what? Chris clearly mentioned the weight (in kg) and specifically how it was much heavier than the previous car.
he is biased
hes a BBC puppet
he gets paid to shit on non british cars
I hope Chris has a good doctor, his back must be killing him from carrying this show
Mcguiness and Flintoff are actually very good
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@@medilyesoudhini7411 Flintoff is. He's a likable bloke and seems to have rappor with Chris.
Mcguiness on the other hand...
@@pupton5525 I've always thought a Harris Rix Reed trio would work , I just don't understand why they never gave Jack Rix a chance on the big screen as a proper presenter
@@medilyesoudhini7411 Reed annoyed the sh1t out of me. Not sure who Rix is?
@@pupton5525 he's an editor (I think the number 1 editor) on the top gear site and the one who does most of the youtube stuff for top gear, he's pretty funny and technical , he'd definitely work as a presenter
As a long time fan of BMW I'm just happy they are nailing the dynamics again, literally every car in the range drives better than everything in class.
Yeah but for how long there fast yeah but not built to last like the old ones
CT4 Blackwing is up there with this if not better but does not look like dogs dinner.
There's a Chris Harris review, then there's everyone else. Cheers mate!
This car has a face that only a mother could love
that means I'm its mother
It looks like the BMW 3.0 CSL
Put a wing and aero bits on it and it looks like the old "batmobile"
@@DefinitelyNotEmma 3.0 csl looks like a shark, this car looks like buck teeth lol
@@benrekt shark? Mercedes look like sharks lol
Neither BMW nor Audi ever looked like something remotely shark like. Arguably the BMW M1 Procar
@@DefinitelyNotEmma I'm sorry, but you're fucking dellusional... The CSL is one of the all time greats. Flowing, cohesive, simple yet achingly beautiful lines. This is a dumpster fire on wheels. The design is a shocking mess. I like to give all cars the benefit of the doubt, but here there is no doubt. And it's not just the grille. The rest of the front is equally bad, and as Chris points out there is no coherence what so ever. I can't imagine what is going on at BMW for them to sign off on this. It's fucked.
R.I.P. Sabine Schmitz 🖤
Makes me really sad to hear that. She was a great person.
Oh man, that's horrible news. Way too young.
What? What happened?
@@chrishamilton2559 Cancer.
@@hello.itsme.5635 damn, I had no idea. Thank you for telling me.
All other journalists: “Let’s see who gets the 5 stars first!”
The only journalist whose drifts are ALL 5 stars: “Pathetic feature...”
Gotta love Chris! 😂
I really enjoy Chris Harris and his reviews. I can actually relate and listen.
I wish I could relate cause then I'd have an ugly M3
Thanks!
Only fing u can relate to is his ball sack
He’s the only good thing about top gear since the original cast left
th-cam.com/video/SdZIiBLtWf4/w-d-xo.html
Can Top Gear please just be 1 hour of Chris Harris complaining about cars while drifting them?
watch his whiskey files
The Classic Duo strikes again,
Thank you Top Gear for letting CH and Neil preform their craft.
Can totally relate to it feeling like it has M x-Drive, ridiculous traction from the rear axle. Can't wait to try one on track soon.... Glad Chris kinda likes it!
Shame the styling SUCKS
@@benji6866 yawn
@@Chris-jt4ux it really does look bad.
@@ScottPC Yeah, we’ve heard that by now. Chris Harris said it a lot better than anyone in this comment section.
@@johnjuiceshipper4963 If the guy wants to write 100 comments stating how ugly the car looks in his eyes he can do that. Instead of writing comments telling people what they should or shouldn't do go do something productive.
The beauty of Chris Harris..... no window dressing. It is what it is. Well done Chris, keep up the great work
Chris Harris is the saviour of top gear he is a legend and a really good driver
He's not the original topgear was topgear this just isn't it's something else boring
When Clarkson and co. folded, My first thoughts were, Harris should be lead presenter and nobody else.
It's still not the topgear
It's like vegan brownie, even though it's brownie it's not you know what I mean
@@suhaib_BM top gear has been around since 70s ,Chris is better than other 3 he is for the enthusiasts
Glad he's calling out the other design flaws excluding the grille
Whole car is mess
Harris is the best period
So true. The whole car is a disappointment visually IMO.
@@Biter1975 nah it’s alright apart from the grill, the 3 series m sport looks so much better, f series is of course the best of the entire family
@@youtubesbichasspolicys5888 Look at the botched rear fender flares. They didn't bother making different doors to accommodate them.
I seriously love this car... The flawed looks combined with the powerful beastly engine makes me want to own one even more. This car is kinda like a brute, angry, battle-scarred general with armor piercing rounds
Engine is fine powerful but the design of the car needs improvement
The new competition model looks great, they updated the grille to look a bit less funky. The grille is similar to the m4 gt3 car, looks angry
so it's a let down by the ZF (instead of DCT), and the engine feels like a more powerful M340i, otherwise the steering and handling are a lot better even though it weighs at ~1730kg, and, may mean something more significant for some people, with a bit less personality comparing with F8X - that’s how i’d summarize Chris’ comment
Spot on
Pontiac solstice
Glad I live in the manual states of murica, still trying to sell myself on this unreliable bmw
@@shvkpr1 i’ve watched that too (and a few others). I value responsiveness over smoothness. I drive a manual F80, I chose that over the DCT, not to mention a torque-converter automatic 😅
@@shvkpr1 many push the party line. Harris deviated and I value that more anyway. Throttle House are TH-cam jockeys in comparison.
BMW’s design office needs an intervention to stop the cocaine nostrils
@Mr. M5 Men talking about beauty like little girls...😂
@Mr. M5 Maybe they did, but that’s what set this car apart from the crowd where everything looks the same. At least with BMW you have differentiation. Look at Audi and Benz, you can’t tell their lineup apart if you are not looking at the back of their cars...
@@edb9315 yea make it look more ugly to set apart from the others , kinda like those synthol injectors that wanna stand out in the crowd
@Mr. M5 Well, we are 7 billion people on earth, so I’m sure BMW will do fine 😂
@@90AlmostFamous Stop crying. There are many people like me who love the car and who will buy it ;)
The grill is evolving... just backwards.
devolving
5:11 - "Whoever is still working there at BWM" ..😄
I think he was trying to say "BMW M" but said the BMW part a bit too fast.
I heard it as "BMW M".
was looking for this comment, 👌🏻
Yah heard that. Whoever designed the car must be fired. You cannot continue allowing folks to piss of the the customers. When this many folks complain , you’ve done something wrong
Man this car makes me love my E92 so much more. This car just doesn’t look, sound or seem special. Dropping 5k on interior carbon bits doesn’t make it feel special sorry
I've never cared much for many of the M4 cars hence why I own a S5, but had a E92 for a few months and completely agree. that car really really impressed me in so many ways. only thing since then has been the M2.
Snap. I had my F82 from new and sold with 36k on the clock. I recently bought a frozen edition E92 with 20k on it and from driving back to back, the E92 feels so much more responsive!
E92 is such a beautiful car, right curves, right proportions. Shame about the fuel system
E92 is the last real M3
@@stephenfoster5416 the sound alone is worth it
Why oh why don't we see more of This Chris Harris . Not the false personality the Tog Gear producers demand on the show.
Ahhh man, no one does car reviews like Chris Harris. He's in a league of his own.
Mat Watson more fun though
@@carlhughes8312 don't compare that fraud Matt Watson with Chris Harris. Harris is an experienced racing driver and knows his stuff. Matt Watson just does pointless drag races with that idiot Yiannimize. Their audience are minors 😂😂😂
@@alexthyer idk but he was a motor journalist since 2003 , and yes i like videos from both of them
@@alexthyer yeah but atleast he comes across more fun and more normal, nobody cares if a car goes sideways on track just utter waste of time
@@carlhughes8312 I care 🤷♂️ it’s how I like to drive
Im SORRY I just couldnt live with the Looks Id have an ALFA Romeo Quadrifoglio
Honestly, modern Alfas don't look much better. That triangular grill allways reminds me of something else...
@@MOSSFEEN oops
Good man yourself.
Only thing is M3 will get u there, Alfa won't!
@@tomdagg6545 bollocks
completely agree with Chris feedback on the design, too fussy, it's like trying too hard for attention
He’s right that all the tension has gone out of the design. Very strange. I think it wouldn’t take much to sort out the current generation of mistakes however. That front grille could look alright with a clean-up of the angles and better integration, so as to carve out a 3D snout (think Chiron front grille).
everyone is designing for the Chinese market now
Why is the tire noise louder than the engine?....sad sad affairs
EU
They should continue m convertibles
Nothing a stainless let alone titanium PIP can’t awaken. No cats STRAIGHT BACK!!
Just turbo noises, kinda a tradeoff but loud cars suck anyways imo
Buy an exhaust silly
Haven’t watched any review today or read any review until I watch this first. Chris you’re the one I want to hear from first.
Can we just acknowledge how much prettier the F Series engine bay is? What happened to that lovely Carbon Subframe?!
Right.... What a disappointment in that regard.
7:03 oops
The Irony
2 digits up, man is obviously not perfect. He can always argue he had both e90 m3 and e39 m5 lol
I'd rather has a Tesla !
@@WeylandLabs that's sad
@@J0lker No what's sad is BMWs depreciation value once you buy one. 🤣
Good ol' 'Chris Harris On Cars' with Chris and Neil, let The Grand Tour keep the flame of that car entertainment old TG alive while new TG revolves around Chris Harris
Can't get enough of Chris's journalism, reminds of what made me fall in love with Top Gear back in 1992!!
Are my eyes playing tricks on me, or does Chris look like he's 4ft tall? Those cars look like SUVs
not the tallest bloke for sure ;)
Chris is relatively short but i think that m3 is just gigantic
I think he is 5' 7", or 170 cm.
He is getting wider and that distorts the picture
Cars have been getting taller for a while now.
I'm still digging my E46 M3. The newer ones might be faster, I'm not sure if they are as connected as the E46.
If you want connection you go for a Miata. People aren't in the market for crotch rockets anymore and its time to accept that. You cannot compare your car and this, its a different era of engineering.
Still one of the best looking M cars of all time as far as I'm concerned, and that 6 is legendary. Treat her nice! (I'm sure you do)
Yeah this is a good car but I would take a drive in an e46 any day over this any day!
Enjoy it man. The E46 M is special
@@greaser3069 cry
An actual car review and not a comedy show. Love you Chris Harris
last time I was this early the M3 was a good looking car
BMW has absolutely ruined everything that they used to stand for since about 2013. Horrible.
@@thephonkking i guess you're an "N/A bmw engines" fan , i won't blame you neither bmw itself it's regulations that made cars less exciting
As with most cars, they grow on you. Though this one has a lot of growing to do.
I like it 👌
The front end reminds me of a 2004 Pontiac GTO but somehow worse 😅
like a techy version of it therefore worse somehow
and people thought Chris Bangle was controversial lool "he ruined the design language of BMW"
BMW: G80 grille
I always liked Bangle. I miss the big brutal German sedans of old. But still...
Bangle made hideous back ends, his cars weren't bad from the front.
PLEASE test drive the manual version! Apparently they improved the shift feel
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No manual in the UK though, he’d have to drive a foreign market car
In my view, why would you get a manual when power is at these levels? If you want a fun manual, buy a regular 911 manual
@@teamracing07 Why would you NOT want a manual? The GT3 already proved high power manuals are effective. Plus the bigger reason is the 8 speed torque converter auto. It's not as good of a transmission as the DCT and too smooth and a bit slower. The manual seems better engineered for the car here since it's been reworked apparently and the manual car weighs less and has less hp.
Plus the manual is always more fun and rewarding to drive.
@@CarToneHK Top Gear can make that work. Manual is sold in the US
Didn’t realise how much I’ve missed Chris Harris........ though to be fair I like the look of it
Me too! Really close to buying one and I don’t get the fuss of the looks. Probably from people who don’t own one nor plan on buying one. My personal opinion.
I agree…I’ve had M3/M4’s since 2001. Most people commenting on how horrible it looks don’t have any intention or means of buying one.
I for one love the new M3. It's given me a fantastic new profile pic.
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Lmao
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Been waiting all day for this
Chris has gone down as my favorite car reviewer, his channel was legendary.
*Fiat Multipla exists
BMW: "Hold my beer"
Someone had to fight for the throne at some point
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*AR Giulia have nice triangular nose
BMW: "Make it hexagonal, and double it!"
A face only a mother could love.
but yours doesnt love your face
@@saidalas7763 ?
@@currycel470 what "?"
Well that's a heck of a thing to say about Chris.
They talking about the BMW face, in this case the ugly big grille and other mods from previous generation
I hated the look until I saw one in person looks good to me now.
Love Chris for giving a straight review; BY FAR the best at what he does.
"the E90 V8 M5" what? C'mon Chris what you saying.
He just texted me, he meant m3.
You never slipped huh?
@@sinenomine4540 he has an editor, this is not an amateur video shot on an iphone.
yup 7:02 picked on that too hehe Burnnnnn :)
Just ordered a base model in white with black trim, black wheels, red calipers. Gonna be a looooong 3 months.
Still a huge mistake with the styling of the new range. I think the M2 was the best looking BMW I've seen to date.
That’s why I paid the balloon on mine and keeping it :)
E46 better
Meh e90 series was the better looking imo
9:15 there you go, the man himself said it.
Tesla fanboys gonna feast on that. Kek
Im a guy with both an M4 and a Tesla so I'm basically better placed than any person to comment, it's all about preference. As a daily driver, don't have to hear the engine drown on in traffic, instant torque is more helpful is always the faster car in and around town driving, autopilot in the traffic leaves you far less tired, in that respect the Tesla is a far better car than my M4. As a car I want to have fun in, rip around bends, rev to 7500rpm for the heck of it, take it out occasionally on a cruise, the M4 is a far better car.
So what's my point? It depends what you are looking for. A daily driver or a car for the weekends and fun. Or better yet, get both like me haha
@@supaahflyy 2 very nice cars sir, what he's saying though is he doesn't want to be forced to just drive electric. That will probably be the future. You yourself, as an M4 owner must be disappointed with that option, as you have it now?? Enjoy.
@@tim3437 Ahh yeh the UK regulations and all. Im in Australia and lets just say we have dinosaurs in Government. They dont even have any incentives to buy electric infact here in Victoria, its going to be first state in the world taxing electric cars haha. So that paints a picture of how slowly our 'transition' away from petrol cars to electric cars is going. Unfortunately the UK government for you guys is much faster and only has 9 years of selling new petrol cars. I think it would be awesome/wise to keep a hold of your favourite petrol cars after 2030. Can only imagine they appreciate in value too
@@tim3437 that is the MAIN problem with electric cars, politics force people to drive them. If we would just keep several drivetrains, no one would hate on electric cars, trust me. All i know is autonomous cars are coming fast, and that will be a problem for a lot of people.
The front, which looks like a 73 Pontiac Firebird Transam, may be more unsightly than Bangles Bungle back in the early 2000’s.
Chris: great car amazing
Also Chris: the looks aren’t there and the engine isn’t special, I could pass on the interior layout is meh
Sum of it's parts can still work.
9:25 For anyone who still don't know how the M3 looks like!
I don't know why everybody is hating on the new M-grille. It's perfect
I don't think it's brilliant, but I can instantly think of worse looking cars: fiat multipla, Land Rover discovery, Mini Paceman, Every peugeot from 2000 to 2015. We'll get used to it and to be fair in that bright green that they used for the M4 launch car does actually look really good.
It's trash, look at the shit, even Audi looks much better
Then go buy an Audi and you can tell everyone how good it looks and how boring it is to drive.
Thank you for the honest review, Chris. I hope the guy at BMW who approved this design gets canned.
Suspect he was half canned when he designed it .
His name is Domagoj Dukec and has been lead design since 2019, he's still employed unfortunately. Yet another person who comes into a new job and thinks they need to change things (often for the worse) just to justify being there.
“Ill shut up and throw it about for you now” That’s what we came for! 😂
Freddie and paddy are actually pretty good
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I guess I’m part of the 20% that actually likes the way the car looks 😂 I’m buying one
Just when you thought the C8 was ugly.
BMW: hold my beer....
“I’m going to shut up now and drive it like an absolute knob” classic Chris Harris 😂. Great, honest review.
Haha, read your comment at the very moment Chris speaks those words.
My favourite Chris video ever was his “a 320d is all you ever need”… also, back to the last gen the only reviewer to put engine etc in sport plus but keep the dampers in comfort. As it should be… legend.
Chris Harris is honestly the best car journalist out there. I could watch him talk about any car
Clarkson.
he is awesome but whe his in a bmw , its always going to be the same outcome.....an amazing car etc etc. he may give some constructive criticism but thays about it
@@cenzofrisina6517 that’s true but tbh all M cars are awesome. I hope you get the chance to drive one someday
@@henry9119 he’s good too. I just prefer Chris Harris tbh
@@jassimaltoki3580 I have driven many a m3.... my favourite is the e92 m3.....they generally are all a great car as they should be given what they are an 'm' series model. i would just like more negative comments from Chris where valid but all good. like to me the sound in the cabin and from outside the car didn't sound special at all , at least from a video point of view. anywaya all good .
Every old m3 owner of every generation: "the old one is better"
This thing is hideous, doesn’t matter what car you used to own
This one is an exception. Because for sure the next one will be better than this one. Lol
hahaha soooo true!
i swear every one who is not even a BMW fan says "the ________ model was better bcuz this and that, the newer ones just aren't as good as they used to be" and don't give a single reason to say so
You drive the new one to say that? Design is different but lovely in my opinion. I think drive this thing is awesome
Chris Harris should documentate F1 one day please....
Three successive generations I've owned M3s. My F80 was my last, unfortunately. The new car is hideous, has confused lines (profile and rear) the interior is dreary and ultimately, it has lost what makes an M3 great. No more soul.
I think it will grow on you, people use to say the same of the F80 when it came out, I will be buying an F80 myself within the next year too.
@@SavageBunny1 that’s what I hate people said the same thing about the F80 now look stfu you’re gonna buy one as soon as you see someone slam it with some HRE CF lip and an exhaust
Agreed mate
@@SavageBunny1 eh, I always liked the F80. The first day it came I genuinely thought "Man that is one good-looking thing, F82 is even better". The new one... the G80 is kind of growing on me in terms of look but the G82 is still lacking cohesiveness in its design.
What BMW wanted was to NOT play it safe. Make it polarising. Some will hate it, like yourself, some will love it, like myself. That's what they wanted.
They didn't want a boring Audi that tries to offend no one and ultimately looks boring
When the legend drops a review,I leave everything and click on it,such a pleasure to watch his reviews.
That M3 comes in an outstanding colour option. My BMW 3 is a classic grey, in need of a paint job.
It's a love hate for that front end with me
Reminds me of the pig mutants from Duke Nukem.
It's just a hate hate relationship with me
It's reminiscent of old BMW models, but I think the rest of the car doesn't fit well with the front end.
reminds me of two coffins
Thought it was an alpha romero
although I own an e46, I believe the best looking 3 series is the e92.
The e46 csl
hold onto it.
Facts.
Unbiased & Unapologetic,
Other TH-cam motoring journalists tend to be overzealous about it instead of being unemotionally objective, like they're speaking to impress someone.
I like that the m3 was introduced sideways
I've never looked at the grills as rabbit teeth. After he mentioned it, I can't unsee it 🤢
Cant unthee
I see an angry Beaver 🤣🤣
Chris, can you comment on your association with Collecting Cars the huge piston heads thread and how someone nearly got caught out and ripped off to £130,000 on a destroyed GT3?
It looks like a sub-Bangle mess. So many lines, stuffed in everywhere. Glad to see it goes well. Maybe they'll clean it all up for the eastate.
I thought the busy-ness makes the grill fit better. Not to my taste, but that hardly matters: the kind of people who actually buy them will love it.
they won't.
The people that like the design of the new M3 should get covid tests done, because one of the major symptoms is no taste
Wp
Nice one
damn, burn
LooooooooL
They only like it because it's BMW.
Watching Chris Harris drift BMWs is one of my favourite things to watch
This video, with the Neil's amazing work, made me remember the amazing Chris Harris on Cars era...
Please make more and more like this!
BMW Board: Everyone hates the new design, how are we going to sell them now!?
Chris Harris: Hold my beer.
Great review.
I think it's fine. Usually new BMW models have to grow on me, or don't.
As if people wouldn't buy a brand new BMW model lol. Get real.
The front, the shape of the headlights above all, are certainly inspired by the Alfa Romeo Giulia!
That was immediately my first impression also.
Why should I get it over the F80 M3?
The improvement doesn't seem significant enough to justify the price in my opinion
Ye ofc, rich mans car, bmw milking money before it's all electric
@@senoow4215 for some reason people think m cars are/were cheap? They've always been expensive relative to the era they were released. It's an M. What do people expect
@@supaahflyy yeah but this is like over 110k punds fully loaded lol, would rather get any other car in that price range, model S, Audi e tron, older gen c63s that u can get new for under 100k etc
@@senoow4215 oh shit really? 110k? Sheesh I didn't know that. All the reviewers I've seen have said 75k starting and then you can add a few options and you'll be up to 85k realistically unless you go bonkers and add carbon ceramics and the carbon seats and the useless m performance parts.
It's kinda like if you ticked every option of a Porsche, it can get stupid priced really quickly but in reality no one clicks every option because they aren't adding anything to them. For example the carbon seats and carbon ceramics being unticked will save you probably over 10k and for 99% of people who won't track the car, they aren't adding anything to their experience
@@supaahflyy a good spec g80 will run you circa 90k not 110k. Still way too much to be paying for a car that looks like that! And im sure the f80 is thicker and meaner looking.
I can’t get over that front end 🥺
It’s absolutely hideous. No other way to say it. Not because it’s big, plenty of big grills out there that look good. The overall design execution is just bad.
Let's see if these 3rd party tuners will make a new shape front end. I'm sure they will, it would be good business
@@teamracing07 like Touring did to Alfa Romeo 8C to make Disco Volante?
You probably don’t have money for it... so why are you so worried ? 🤔
There is a updated front from Prior Design since probably 2 months
The way he drifted it at 6:50 is pure artistry. Immaculate.
Love watching Chris he sure knows how to ping a motor around
Car has grown on me from the back its epic .100k specced? I remember when 55k would buy u all the M you could ever want...
Chris is the kind of guy who prefers his Himalaya hiking boots over any light race shoe.
9:24 lol
"First up, sorry about my hat"
No Chris, Thank You for being a g 🤙
I remember when the 3series used to be Small, Compact and Nimble! Be good to see an Action Comparison with these new Titanic 3series Aye!
Casually drifting and smashing 140mph on the straight whilst commentating flawlessly without any effort. It’s gotta be Chris Harris on Cars.
Think you have that spot on Chris. Another class review. Just can’t see how that design works, never once made me think that looks impressive. The previous version has so much more presence.
Here from 2024 and I can say everyone loves the grill now 😌❤️🔥
The front end would look amazing, without atrocious overwhelming grill taking up so much real estate. Think I've seen a photoshopped version somewhere with a 'normal' grill, and it looks fantastic. Shame