Save The Manuals! BMW M3 vs Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing

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  • “Where did all the manuals go?” asks Jethro Bovingdon as he drags his poor, withered left leg behind him. Because the rise of the EV and the proliferation of the auto has seen manuals all but disappear from UK shores. America, on the other hand, is positively rolling in them. Weird.
    So we grabbed two of the most-exciting manuals on sale in the US that we don’t get back in Blighty, and set about proving once and for all that manual beats auto. To do this we required several things: Jack in a competitive car with an auto-box (OK, we might have fiddled this bit), an empty race track, and some skids. Lots of skids.
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    00:00 Intro
    01:24 Manual vs Auto
    02:29 Drag Race
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  • @hieuluu2
    @hieuluu2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

    In our Multiverse, a Cadillac is offered with a manual and a Corvette only available with an automatic.

    • @motomarmot6544
      @motomarmot6544 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂😂

    • @sebastianromero420
      @sebastianromero420 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think you mean 🤡 world

    • @shenton18
      @shenton18 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How crazy right. . I just dint get why they nit listening to their customers

  • @post-leftluddite
    @post-leftluddite 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    If I won the lottery the CT5-V Blackwing would be my daily

    • @BMR_WRLD
      @BMR_WRLD 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Get your money up and buy it out right. Or better yet go back to playing Forza and dreaming about it

    • @313soldier313
      @313soldier313 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      F this guy above me. Keep dreaming buddy. I have one and it all began as a dream. Keep working hard and make it come true.

    • @EliteOnTheBeat
      @EliteOnTheBeat 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@313soldier313 THATS right homie! The youtube community needs more positive users like YOU!! 👏🔥👏🔥Instead of trolls with broke mindsets and probably broke bank accounts like the guy above you. 🤣
      BTW i see soldier in you're name, If you served our country, Thank you for you're service sir. 🙏

    • @313soldier313
      @313soldier313 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@EliteOnTheBeat 🤝 absolutely man. I’m constantly approached by the younger generation who just want a glimpse at their dream cars. If I had someone treat me bad as a kid I would’ve never developed the passion for cars that I have now. It’s all love. Thank you!

    • @Yosh1az
      @Yosh1az หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@313soldier313 yeah, its free to dream and everything starts on dreams

  • @TheMichaelBeck
    @TheMichaelBeck 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Best anti-theft device, a manual transmission. Cheers from America!

    • @Konformation07
      @Konformation07 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Tell that to Civic owners

  • @patrickdgarez86
    @patrickdgarez86 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    As a yank, it has become a true pleasure to finally enjoy British and Euro videos featuring our cars as genuine competitors. Gone are the days of "yes but it will cry when it sees a corner" jokes. Our roads require extra "plushness", so the extra weight is understandable. Our fuel, thank f### is so much cheaper than what is paid across the pond, so a fat, heavier and lazier, V8 is possible. Never in a million years did I think I would see the day when American sports sedans would have more manual options than found in Europe. Very much enjoying your shenanigans on this side of the divide. Hats off.

    • @corystansbury
      @corystansbury 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Based on other BMW engine weights I've seen...I wouldn't be shocked if the B58 and LT4 are pretty close in weight, especially if the whole intake, cooling, and exhaust systems were laid out. The BMW 6s are sizable, especially the newer valvetronic engines. Only B58 weight I can find appears to be some incomplete definition (short or long block) with no details.

    • @fasteddie2gogg
      @fasteddie2gogg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So true

    • @melondoc
      @melondoc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I found the fact that it got soundly "beaten" by a base M3 in this review pretty savage considering the 5BW's advantages in power and braking, MRC/PTM and the fact it was built and benchmarked to compete with M5 CS. The impression I took away is that it drives a bit like a European would expect an American car to drive on track - think Hellcat or a Challenger - i.e. boaty, difficult to control, bad handling. I can only assume Jethro was having an off day, doesn't much care for the blackwing, or most of the other reviews I've seen/read about it are wrong.

    • @BrHH772
      @BrHH772 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Did you see LS/LT based family irl? They're tiny, like literally tiny. Especially compared to giant wall of a straight six in BMW, with 1/3 of the car length.
      And check the weight as well. You'd surprised.
      No need to comment on lazier, you clearly have no idea how lazy turbo crap feels on the track compared to n/a V8.

    • @BrHH772
      @BrHH772 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@melondoc it's the only review with such a weird result, and they made it clear that no proper track test methodologies were used.
      5BW will destroy any bmw in existense on a racetrack (kinda obvious), short of m4 csl.

  • @CACressida
    @CACressida 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    As a GM hater, I'll gladly take that caddy. Gorgeous car.

    • @ShariaLawAllDay
      @ShariaLawAllDay 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You must be a Fix Or Repair Daily lover. Damn that garbage. GM takes a big dump on the Blue Oval.

    • @CACressida
      @CACressida 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ShariaLawAllDay considering my TOYOTA FJ is in my profile pic, NO I don't own Ford products.

    • @ShariaLawAllDay
      @ShariaLawAllDay 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CACressida Oh crap my bad. Should have seen it. And should have paid attention you're a Cressida fan. That's the best sedan ever made by Toyota I gotta admit.

    • @ssnerd583
      @ssnerd583 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ShariaLawAllDay .....how about a heavily turbo'd 1JZ in a SC300??? yeah.

  • @simonmorty8344
    @simonmorty8344 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Great to have Jethro on TG! Great summary at the end and it takes a real driver to be able to drift well in a manual car. Just need to get Harris on board, as i really think Jethro, Harris and Jack would work great together and bring a much needed revamp to TG that has been missijg for a long time!

  • @malcolmar
    @malcolmar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Well done and well said! BTW Jethro, that was some mighty fine driving. The Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing is someting special. It will be missed when it is gone :(

  • @antonakis79ohyes
    @antonakis79ohyes 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    Jethro is my favourite presenter, by far. Thanks, TG!

  • @wilmara24
    @wilmara24 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    I find it hilarious that they mention price differences when it not in favor of euro. They always compare a 50k American sports car to a 150k euro car and act surprised that the interior isn’t as nice or it doesn’t have whatever new gadgets.

    • @hertzwave8001
      @hertzwave8001 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      trying to import said american car bumps up the price to something like 120k, still not really a fair comparison whenever it happens though yes

    • @ChadGyabin
      @ChadGyabin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      M3 not 150K

    • @hassyg4083
      @hassyg4083 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      German brands make good interior but rest of the car falls apart certainly aint no Toyota for quality

    • @derbigpr500
      @derbigpr500 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They cost about the same. A Cadillac in Europe would be more expensive.

    • @derbigpr500
      @derbigpr500 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hassyg4083 Really? Which part of a German car falls apart? It's hilarious how your opinion is the exact opposite of the facts. Germans make by far the most durable car that take abuse others can't .Track them and you'll see why. Toyots? They are the ones that fall apart and can't handle any abuse.

  • @jasong3283
    @jasong3283 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +350

    ct4v blackwing woulda been a more fair comparison

    • @user-my4xu4gf1z
      @user-my4xu4gf1z 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      They just needed a m3 competition honestly. The new gen BMWs are insane just watch Sam Carlegion m3 vs ct4 blackwing. Ct5 blackwing runs a 11.7 quarter mile which is terrible. Bmw m3 xdrive runs a 11.0 quarter mile and 2.8 sec 0-60 (via Sam Car Legion video camaro zl1 vs m3 vs alfa rameo) That was on a non drag strip aswell. End of the day this base model m3 lost by .50th of a second obv the m3 comp would win on the track and a straight. Caddy sounds great though fun car forsure!

    • @post-leftluddite
      @post-leftluddite 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +117

      @@user-my4xu4gf1z Hagerty did a video on the CT5-V Blackwing and raced it against the M5 CS, and the Blackwing BEAT IT around the track....so don't even try

    • @fikes73
      @fikes73 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I prefer that car over both of these

    • @philipparana9225
      @philipparana9225 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Ct4v B can be had mid 60s
      Off the lot. Ct5v B is nice just not in anywat worth double.

    • @kirkrobinson4893
      @kirkrobinson4893 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Ct4-V still spank it

  • @rafaminus5366
    @rafaminus5366 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I love Bmw but that Cady is impressive 🎉🎉🎉

  • @gettcouped
    @gettcouped 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    It really is amazing that the best super sedan of all time is a Caddy. 😮

  • @the_track_enthusiast
    @the_track_enthusiast 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Why would you not use the CT4V? This is like comparing an M5 to an M4

  • @yatishsharma8632
    @yatishsharma8632 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Why no Chris Harris for this long..☹️

    • @Odinthegiantdog
      @Odinthegiantdog 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Without him this is dead so boring

    • @lukepodolski8818
      @lukepodolski8818 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Big boss is enjoying his holiday time off..lol😂

    • @minibus1351
      @minibus1351 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He quit, btw. He announced it I believe.

    • @kylepasta
      @kylepasta 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because the world doesn't revolve around him

  • @gettcouped
    @gettcouped 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I love how you showed the failed attempts. Really shows how difficult sliding is! Fun Fun time

    • @ssnerd583
      @ssnerd583 หลายเดือนก่อน

      'drifting' is a joke on everybody but the tire manufacturers.....a BAD joke

  • @ALMX5DP
    @ALMX5DP 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Gotta say, Maverick cornered pretty flat around there. That Tremor model looks like a pretty cool choice for a track safety truck. :P

  • @vision2002
    @vision2002 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Obviously the CT4 is the competition for the M3....

    • @Kamran1025
      @Kamran1025 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      In which the M3 would crush it in anything

    • @castroalves8843
      @castroalves8843 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Kamran1025 preconceptions...

    • @post-leftluddite
      @post-leftluddite 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      The CT4-V Blackwing is $16,000 cheaper than an M3, so would it really be the competition? Price is what determines what two items compete...oh, and Hagerty did a video on the CT5-V Blackwing and put it up against the M5 CS and the blackwing beat it around the track, so just to stop this little "argument" now

    • @MrSuperflydude
      @MrSuperflydude 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The ct4 is almost 20k less expensive than an m3...

    • @BrHH772
      @BrHH772 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Kamran1025 1 sec on a 3 minute race course is not exactly "crushing" considering huge power difference in favor of M3 (real power difference, m3 is hugely underestimated).
      On the straight line yes, bmw is the king. Eurocars are consistently faster in a straight lines and slower in the corners for the past 10+ years.

  • @stimproid
    @stimproid 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    You get the manual back when you can say "H" properly.

  • @Turbo329
    @Turbo329 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    CT5V is faster around the track but the M3 is the better track car. :D haha ok. Got it!

    • @kylelee8685
      @kylelee8685 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep bunch of bias euro f##

    • @bionicanimatronicfox5959
      @bionicanimatronicfox5959 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It’s quite remarkable that the CT5-V Blackwing outperforms the M5 CS on the track. This really highlights the disparity in Top Gear’s reviews of American cars, often labeling them as ‘heavy’ and favoring the M3 as a superior track car - a view not commonly shared by other automotive channels. Moreover, it’s surprising that they overlook the exceptional transmission and chassis tuning of the Blackwing, which usually receives high praise elsewhere

  • @wesleywalls7582
    @wesleywalls7582 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I haven’t yet watched this and I’m super pumped.

  • @thomasjrinnus9935
    @thomasjrinnus9935 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fun fact: the Maverick Tremor shares the awd system with the Focus RS. So a bit of software tweaking.....

  • @RichardJones-kx6mb
    @RichardJones-kx6mb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Thanks for remembering why we like cars. It’s not all about speed. For miles per smiles, nothing beats a manual. Most of us aren’t going to track our cars. We are going to get those bits of road where we can run through a few gears and take a long while for our smiles to fade.

    • @LawnMower-jv8hg
      @LawnMower-jv8hg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Well said. Unfortunately, less and less people are becoming interested in automotive culture. People praise electric vehicles just for the pure torque and speed it offers, but that's all it has. You step on the pedal and go. No sound, no manual, no fun.

    • @hassyg4083
      @hassyg4083 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      in reality people have to drive through traffic where the manual sucks

    • @jijokoshyksjijo3989
      @jijokoshyksjijo3989 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@hassyg4083 Those people can have EVs😊

    • @hassyg4083
      @hassyg4083 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jijokoshyksjijo3989 everyone will have EV soon

    • @jijokoshyksjijo3989
      @jijokoshyksjijo3989 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hassyg4083 no thanks. ❤️

  • @philippebeinaerts
    @philippebeinaerts 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant work!

  • @robl2547
    @robl2547 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Video... to bad you did not have a CT4V Blackwing to add to the mix... very curious to see how the the CT4-BW would have made out. Can you do that again?

  • @billshoe22191
    @billshoe22191 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was hilarious fun. Loved it!

  • @lovelehstuff
    @lovelehstuff 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Jethro on top gear, i can rest now 😭

  • @mumbachabwe8881
    @mumbachabwe8881 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    Indeed, we need to save the manual, it's by far the best transmission system ever!!!!

    • @VinceCannavaII
      @VinceCannavaII 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      As humanity struggles to use the blinker reliably, and would rather be surfing their phones while driving instead of driving, I'm concerned that in the name of "safety" humans won't be allowed to drive within a generation, let alone experience the joy of a manual transmission on the road...

    • @lucwijngaard8413
      @lucwijngaard8413 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@VinceCannavaIIgood point, I think a manual forces you to adopt a more active driving style. So maybe people will pay more attention to the road and less to their phones when driving a manual!

    • @unowen-nh9ov
      @unowen-nh9ov 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not according to F1, Ferrari or BMW.

    • @hassyg4083
      @hassyg4083 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tesla is the future

    • @waterbnb7204
      @waterbnb7204 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@hassyg4083future of driving attitude failure

  • @Sir.VicSmasher
    @Sir.VicSmasher 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:40 You can option the M Carbon Bucket Seats and M Carbon Ceramic Brakes on the base non-competition package model with the manual.🎓

  • @MichaelNiteRealEstate
    @MichaelNiteRealEstate 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What track is this?! Looks like they are still constructing the garage pits

  • @1stGenStunter
    @1stGenStunter 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The pain was obvious when you had to praise the Cadillac. It felt sooo heavy through the corners and underpowered on the straight but it lapped faster. Then you couldn't even control the non-comp M3 but the BIG 'OL Cadi had you grinning like a Ches cat during the drifts

    • @fzr1000981
      @fzr1000981 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Underpowered? 570 vs 505 rwhp on a dyno (actually 505 is the comp)

  • @michaelallen2501
    @michaelallen2501 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Dual clutch is great for setting fast and consistent lap times. I don't do that. I drive to work and around some back roads for fun. And in those 2 environments, the manual is king. I dont need a coffee cup light on the dash and cameras watching my eyes to keep me engaged to the car and the traffic around me. I have a job to do. And on the back roads I get a real connection to the car. An analog and symbiotic relationship. Like a fine watch with a soul inside, running the show.

  • @smohan123
    @smohan123 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    He almost stalled the caddy off the line in the drag race loooooooool

  • @MrPetertad
    @MrPetertad 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Manual gear box is the best!

  • @moretapster
    @moretapster 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That intro? Brave 🤣🤣🤣

  • @hoonaticbloggs5402
    @hoonaticbloggs5402 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That third pedal is essential.

  • @orbeengaapine2740
    @orbeengaapine2740 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a holy grail among manual transmission sedans especially at a crucial time like this when the glory days of the car industry are slipping behind us...and to this think this gem would come out from America. Thankful.

  • @AntonioCarlos-ii6yw
    @AntonioCarlos-ii6yw 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Qual é o nome da cor do BMW?
    Que cor linda!
    What is the name of the BMW color?
    What a beautiful color!

  • @brianrainey2739
    @brianrainey2739 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jethro, was this taped before or after your lessons from Travis?

  • @trell1011
    @trell1011 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Why not the CT4 V Blackwing?

    • @post-leftluddite
      @post-leftluddite 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Well, here's a surprise, a BMW fan taking it personally....well, just to let you know, Hagerty did a video on the CT5-V Blackwing and raced it against the M5 CS and the blackwing won, so don't even try

    • @Yukon6255
      @Yukon6255 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As someone who's owned an Camaro SS, ATS-V, and CT4-V BW, and now driving a G80 M3, the BMW is by far the better overall package and faster on the track. Not sure what video you were watching but the M3 competing with a car above its class in power and price, this was an absolute win for M3. Maybe stop obsessing about BMW fanboys and just ask one out for dinner you tool.... BTW I love how the driver of the 5BW says he nailed the drift, which was impressive but you drove up on the dirt and and sand blasted that beautiful blue paint, hopefully it's PPF'd...

    • @aaronvector4750
      @aaronvector4750 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Yukon6255 no, don't get it wrong, the BMW is easier to drive fast, and hence would be quicker in the hands of an amateur, but the Caddilacs have higher limits. The times were only close because it was a 1 lap no warmup session. If they had a warmup lap then 2 hotlaps, Jethrow would've gotten accustomed to the caddy and it would be seconds ahead of the BMW. The camaro SS 1LE is the fastest car in that segment and often chews on corvettes and even supercars.

    • @gmain1977
      @gmain1977 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Yukon6255BMWs are boring

    • @trell1011
      @trell1011 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Yukon6255 BMW had to come out with the competition package because the ATS V was a superior car to the M3 AND M4 of the same year.

  • @DanielS2376
    @DanielS2376 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What year is the blackwing?

  • @mobinmobaseri
    @mobinmobaseri 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love that Cady. It is a satisfying sensation that you cannot replicate with anything else. God bless American muscle cars!

  • @Shep-dq6fw
    @Shep-dq6fw 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It would be a better compsitation test with CTS4-V Blackwing because it's a twin-turbo V6 with the same weight.

  • @brandodurham
    @brandodurham 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    The G80 is an absolute drift machine. It’s like a racing quad in terms of ease and predictability while sliding about at any speed

    • @rdramos13
      @rdramos13 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The Genesis?

    • @brandodurham
      @brandodurham 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rdramos13 lol m3

    • @Slowwagonftl
      @Slowwagonftl 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@rdramos13G80 is the chassis code for the current gen M3

    • @user-be9ta7fv2j
      @user-be9ta7fv2j 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      💩

    • @M5tubee
      @M5tubee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rdramos13😂😂

  • @_que
    @_que 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have a all manual comparison pls available today

  • @sixmillbaby
    @sixmillbaby 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Cute video but shoulda ditched the truck and compared manual M3 and CT4 vs. auto M3 Comp and Auto CT5

    • @justinpino8115
      @justinpino8115 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shoulda

    • @EliteOnTheBeat
      @EliteOnTheBeat 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I use to GAP m3's in my bone stock Cadillac ATS 2.0T .... The ATS-V its bigger brother will GAP a M4. Schmitty has done tunes on ATS-V with no mods and turned the car into a 10 second car....There not ONE bmw thats bone stock with only a tune running 10 seconds in the 1/4 so just stop it. And the blackwing....thats a whole another animal.
      But first you need to realize that GM doesn't show the actual power numbers of the V's so they decrease the V's numbers so they can continue to maximize corvette sales. After all who would want to buy a 2 door car when a 4 door car can do the same thing performance wise?!?!
      The blackwing is not only QUICKER but also FASTER than the M5 CS. The M5 CS does 0-60 in 3.3 seconds....
      The blackwing does 0-60 in 3 seconds.... The top speed of the M5 Cs is 190...The top speed of the Blackwing is 200+!! Additionally the BMW ONLY has 627 HP with a TINY 553 LBs of torque. The blackwing however has 668HP and 659 LB of torque. THATS over 100+ more torque BONE STOCK than the M5 CS! LOL. Finally the M5 CS is $60K more.....So just IMAGINE someone dumping 60K in mods into a blackwing thats already QUICKER/FASTER than a BMW M5 CS to begin with. Finally... the Blackwing has a magnetic suspension 4.0 which again is superior to the adaptive m suspension.

    • @sixmillbaby
      @sixmillbaby 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EliteOnTheBeat I had a 2015 ATS 2.0 and I’m sorry, the only M3 you’re “ gapping” is an e30, maybe e36 stock. Not only have I owned the caddy, I’ve also owned an e46 m3, F80 M3 and currently a G80 so I’ve got enough M experience and ownership call BS on this claim. Also your comment about the CS is a pretty bold take as well but I won’t go there... Either way, my comment wasn’t intended to criticize the amazing CT5 Blackwing (I’d love one); I was just saying a base manual m3 and manual CT4-V Blackwing vs. their auto big brothers would have made a more interesting auto vs. manual comparison.

  • @MrLense
    @MrLense 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yeah this is weird, the Americans also get a Manual Golf R Mk8 and we don't in the UK. I hope anyone buying the new M2's please get a manual box so us car guys can afford one in a few years.

    • @joetz1
      @joetz1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s all based on supply and demand. The manuals are available in the US because the customers demand it

  • @dr_0232
    @dr_0232 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love watching jersey plates in all this cars 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥jersey gang

  • @1SaG
    @1SaG 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There are certain types of cars where an auto-box is preferable - an M3 is not that type of car.
    As good as modern double-clutch affairs have become, and as nice as an auto is in city-driving or stop-and-go traffic, they'll never let you feel as involved with the driving as a manual. And that's a general problem with cars, these days, IMO: They've all become way more detached from the sensation of driving. The rise of the modern automatics is one factor here, the switch to electric power-steering is another. Just like with the autos, it doesn't matter how good electric power-steering has become, it'll never let you feel the car like a hydraulic system. The best option in this regard would be a car with *no* assisted steering and a properly sorted steering/front axle - like a Lotus Elise/Exige. The difference in feel between unaided and electric is about a large as the difference between sex with or without a condom.

  • @esrakavetu2286
    @esrakavetu2286 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In Africa, most cars were manuals, Stick shift but now automatics are taking over, especially with higher-end vehicles.

  • @JDSFLA
    @JDSFLA 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Such a short track does not provide the room for the Caddy to reach its stride. Try again at Road America, Road Atlanta or Corkscrew heaven at Laguna Seca etc.

  • @pr33tu_
    @pr33tu_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'll steer clear of the Hertz rental thanks

  • @jamiegoddard1899
    @jamiegoddard1899 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Surely the CT4 Blackwing is a more natural competitor for the M3?

    • @post-leftluddite
      @post-leftluddite 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Are you suggesting the M5 would beat the CT5-V Blackwing? Because Hagerty did a video comparing it to the M5 CS and the blackwing won

    • @jamiegoddard1899
      @jamiegoddard1899 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@post-leftluddite no, I am saying the M5 sized CT5 is a massive over match for the CT4 sized M3. Yes I made the reply complicated on purpose😜

    • @aaronvector4750
      @aaronvector4750 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, it is, and it would probably be quicker than the CT5 V BW in this 1 lap no warmup battle.

    • @user-my4xu4gf1z
      @user-my4xu4gf1z 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Chinese Chezang Circuit is the only real track that these cars have raced and the m3/m4 beat it. The m4 GTS and m4 CSL also where ahead. That small little Hagery 1 minute track proves nothing. I wish Cadillac had the balls to post a nurumbring lap time. They would've by now if it performed better then it direct competitor BMW M cars. Ur the 2nd comment ive seen saying it beat the m5cs u are aware the new gen bmw m3 and m4 are faster and more nimble around the track? The m5cs is old news the new gen m5 comes out early next year. Keep in mind even the m5cs beat the ct5 black wing by a bus length in the Hargerty Drag race.
      CT5 blackwing- 11.7 quarter mile
      Bmw m3 xdrive-11.3
      Bmw m3 Cs 11.0
      Bmw m4 xdrive 11.3
      This base model m3 lost by half a second and the dude even said the m3 felt better around the track 8:42 I have neither but the BMW is the better car.

    • @derbigpr500
      @derbigpr500 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@post-leftluddite The M5 is a better car. Cadillacs need significant extra power to be as quick. Lap times don't matter in this case, especially the Hagerty one, which is a stupid track with a configuration that proves nothing, and favors power and straight line speed, the M3 is a better drivers car and a better car full stop.

  • @mentox6592
    @mentox6592 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Reupload?

  • @marcasswellbmd6922
    @marcasswellbmd6922 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The gearing is so much more important than most people realize.. Most PPL are always looking at HP and 0-60 number's.. Granted that's all important But the transmissions have become more important and expensive than some motor's these days. PPL today have no idea just how good they have it when it comes to performance.. Not to sound old but it's true.. In the 70's, 80's, and the 90's even We had to go with manuals to get the power down..

  • @mcmobius1
    @mcmobius1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why the Maverick? Why not a Durango Trackhawk or a Camaro/Mustang with a 10 speed. But these days a manual option is only available for the high end performance trim versions.

  • @yiannishayabusaofficial
    @yiannishayabusaofficial 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WOW AWESOME VIDEO SUPERB ! ! ! !

  • @Mgarcia472
    @Mgarcia472 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The problem isn’t the car … it’s definitely the driver

  • @melondoc
    @melondoc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hm... Hagerty had the CT5 Blackwing lap faster than an M5 ... CS ... not saying Jethro's sandbagging but I was quite surprised how close it was to the base M3.

    • @user-my4xu4gf1z
      @user-my4xu4gf1z 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ur the 2nd comment ive seen saying it beat the m5cs u are aware the new gen bmw m3 and m4 are faster and more nimble around the track? The m5cs is old news the new gen m5 comes out early next year. Keep in mind even the m5cs beat the ct5 black wing by a bus length in the Hargerty Drag race.
      CT5 blackwing- 11.7 quarter mile 4
      Bmw m3 xdrive-11.0 , 0-60 2.8sec
      Bmw m3 Cs 10.8
      Bmw m4 xdrive 11.0
      This BASE model m3 lost by half a second and the dude even said the m3 felt better around the track 8:42 I have neither but the BMW is the better car.

    • @thedumbconspirator4956
      @thedumbconspirator4956 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@user-my4xu4gf1z Hagerty did race the M5 CS, CT5V BW, and the Model S plaid around a "real track" the track is called Willow springs Raceway. It's a shorter track, but it still has its fair share of hard corners and apexes, and straights so as far as I'm concerned it's a "real track" on which the ct5 blackwing fairly beat the M5 CS and lost to the Model S. All three were driven on the same day (same conditions) by the same racing driver, Randy Pobst. So this is as fair of a showdown as it gets.
      As for the "Chezang" circuit, I looked that up and got no results at all. So I'm not sure if you misspelled that for Zhejiang Circuit, but I can't find that track.

    • @thedumbconspirator4956
      @thedumbconspirator4956 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-my4xu4gf1z The caddy isn't about tenths of a second on track or quarter mile times, it's about fun and driver engagement. If you watch the Hagerty vid to completion that's what they mention about the Blackwing. It's a 668 hp RWD car and on an unprepped track it will suffer.
      If you care about all out performance in a four door package, I'd go for the Model S plaid over any BMW. That was another car that Hagerty reviewed, put 6 bus lengths between it and the BMW M5 CS completing the quarter mile in 9.3 seconds. Even on the Nurburgring it holds the record for the fastest production 4 door vehicle to lap the Nurburgring beating out all of BMW, Mercedes, and Porsches 4 door offerings including M5 CS, GT63, Panamera, taycan, M3, M3 Comp etc.
      My point is electrics like the Tesla plaid win in performance. The caddy is all about manual supercharged RWD V8 fun that BMW or no other European make offers. The turbo 3L 6 and the biturbo V8s maybe fast, but it's characterless and boring...especially compared to the glorious RWD supercharged V8s that power the CT5V Blackwing. Blackwing also looks much better and meaner than the overstyled garbage that BMW seems content with.

    • @thedumbconspirator4956
      @thedumbconspirator4956 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@user-my4xu4gf1z BMW CSL and CS cars are about as far from comfort at you can get. They're specially designed for track use and their suspensions stiff and their ride is harsh and their seats are far too uncomfortable and grippy. CT5V is a street car that rides a lot comfier and it's suspension is also set up that way and is much smoother and comfortable compared to the CS/CSL stuff.

    • @user-my4xu4gf1z
      @user-my4xu4gf1z 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@thedumbconspirator4956 no one would see a ct5 blackwing and think it looks meaner the a m4 CSL. Type in ritta rides m4 CSL review. 😂 If u add an adro grille,Vorstiener, or CSL grille to the new bmw m3 or m4 it looks aggresive af. Look up adro g82 blue m4 competition. I agree the OG grille makes it ugly but u just gotta add a new grille and its fire. I personally like the adro grille. The caddy looks like a luxury sedan from the front and side. Unless ur behind it u would have no idea its fast. Nothing looks mean about it. It looks like a Cadillac the BMW headlights alone make it look more aggresive then a single light going down the side of the car. Caddy looks like it's crying lol.
      This guy said get a TESLA. LMFAO. I thought we were talking about cars. Nothing about being inside a tesla feels special. U don't get bucket seats,carbon fiber,ventilated seats,HUD,360 cam,sport steering wheel that feels like good quality,etc.. it doesn't feel like a luxury sports car or a luxury car. It's just blah. Real luxury sports cars are an experience to just cruise around in. I'd get the blackwing anyday over that. Nothing about a tesla is headturning. Even the exterior is just as dull and boring. Them shits look like basic traffic.

  • @leukybear
    @leukybear 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    M3 swinging above and still able to hang above its weightclass

  • @VinceCannavaII
    @VinceCannavaII 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting to see the Corolla, Jeep & other cars in the background.. did anyone have unscripted fun i wonder?

  • @nomsi4263
    @nomsi4263 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I want that CT5 Black wing so bad. Why can't we have it in tje UK 😢

    • @hoonaticbloggs5402
      @hoonaticbloggs5402 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Import one

    • @nomsi4263
      @nomsi4263 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hoonaticbloggs5402 not that simple. I wouldn't even know where to start. Also, I am not that used to left hand drive.

    • @hoonaticbloggs5402
      @hoonaticbloggs5402 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nomsi4263
      1. Buy one from a dealer in us.
      2. Arrange shipping
      3. Pay import taxes.
      4. Arrange IVA test (if necessary)
      5. Register vehicle.
      People import vehicles from other markets all the time. In fact there are companies that will do it for you if you got the money.
      It’s a nice car for sure but I can’t afford one.

  • @godfreyngozo2181
    @godfreyngozo2181 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When is Cadillac setting up shop down in South Africa 😢

  • @scratchymaster
    @scratchymaster 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where is this track?

  • @United_Wings
    @United_Wings 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow 😳

  • @stuntdrvr
    @stuntdrvr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what track is this???

  • @noahgreenberg3054
    @noahgreenberg3054 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is cool but my dad tried to buy a new M3 manual and it took a year and half for the dealership to say ehhh ur not gonna get it actually. Wish I could get my hands on one

  • @Dennis-du4jh
    @Dennis-du4jh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Adding similar tires to the Maverick wouldve been a more fair comparison, imo

  • @amospizzey1
    @amospizzey1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a driver ⚡️⭐️⚡️⭐️⭐️

  • @kirkrobinson4893
    @kirkrobinson4893 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ole Tiff Needle would have nailed 1st go 😂

  • @aryaahmadi4029
    @aryaahmadi4029 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    AMEN.

  • @williama-d6
    @williama-d6 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice video

  • @jasonmcelroy1938
    @jasonmcelroy1938 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why rerelease this video?

  • @DonLee1980
    @DonLee1980 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Manual gearboxes are probably better for NA and supercharged engines. The act of completely going off-throttle to change gear makes a turbo car lose a lot of steam between shifts, having to lose boost and taking time to get it back up. If both cars were auto, I think the M3 might have set the faster time.

  • @raymonds7492
    @raymonds7492 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why is every black wing press car neon blue?

  • @DeeperImageAutomotive
    @DeeperImageAutomotive 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The CT4-V BW is the competitor to the M4/3. The CT5-V is for the M5. Kind of an unfair comparison to a more nimble and lighter M3 on a really short track. Rigged as always to show the Euro cars not getting whipped.

    • @post-leftluddite
      @post-leftluddite 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Ahh, a BMW fanboy taking it personally, how cute....well, then watch Hagerty's video on the CT5-V Blackwing, they put it up against the M5 CS and it BEATS the M5 CS around the track when driven by the SAME professional driver

    • @vladislavdimitrov4646
      @vladislavdimitrov4646 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@post-leftludditeMaybe you take this quite personally by replying the same thing under every comment.

    • @aaronvector4750
      @aaronvector4750 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@post-leftluddite The dude you're replying to is obviously an American car fan. You should try reading the comments before picking unnecessary battles.

    • @user-my4xu4gf1z
      @user-my4xu4gf1z 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That Hagerty one min lap means nothing the m5cs lost by milliseconds and smoked it in the dragrace. U realize the m3 and m4 competitions are faster and more nimble around a track then the m5cs... I wish Cadillac had the balls to post a nurumbring lap time. They would've by now if it performed better then it direct competitor BMW M cars. The m5cs is old news the new gen m5 comes out early next year. Keep in mind even the m5cs beat the ct5 black wing by a bus length in the Hargerty Drag race.
      CT5 blackwing- 11.7 quarter mile
      Bmw m3Cxdrive-11.0
      Bmw m3 Cs 10.8
      Bmw m4C xdrive 11.0
      This BASE model m3 lost by half a second and the dude even said the m3 felt better around the track 8:42 I have neither but the BMW is the better car.

    • @Lozie26
      @Lozie26 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@user-my4xu4gf1zwhat does quarter mile time have to do with any of this exactly? 3 Awd cars have a faster 1/4 than a Rwd car!!!?? Water is wet. The viper acr also does an 11.7 1/4 and it would destroy all of them on any track.

  • @TurboBMRProjectLove
    @TurboBMRProjectLove หลายเดือนก่อน

    i'm doing my part - i have a 2020 Subaru STi and a 2024 Mustang GT which both are manuals

  • @Rider-hh9it
    @Rider-hh9it หลายเดือนก่อน

    That BMW would be great to own until the electronics, sensors, connectors and plastics start to fail, not to mention the inadequate A/C output for those 100F days.

  • @fizzle7
    @fizzle7 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    MAN LIKE JETHRO

  • @ELXABER
    @ELXABER 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The automotive industry needs to stop taking the driving out of cars.

  • @user-ex4rw1uv8b
    @user-ex4rw1uv8b 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    内燃机的魅力是电动车永远给不了的❤

  • @nunoferreira1453
    @nunoferreira1453 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only UK doesn’t have manual, I’m from Portugal and we have manual m3.

  • @tractioncontroldelete
    @tractioncontroldelete 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mean, guess I see what they were going for

  • @jamesw6899
    @jamesw6899 หลายเดือนก่อน

    CT4-V Blackwing? Kind of a no-brainer for this comparison

  • @LeeShev
    @LeeShev 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does this count? I'm disabled. Uk based. My Mercedes AMG line, automatic, is being traded in for a manual new car?? Can't bring myself to say what though 😢

  • @DJT-2024
    @DJT-2024 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I miss the Stig!

  • @user-rv3fb9zt6w
    @user-rv3fb9zt6w 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "I love the no lift shift" proceeds to lift

  • @GellyGe3666
    @GellyGe3666 หลายเดือนก่อน

    liked within a minute. lol what an intro

  • @John_Hoover
    @John_Hoover 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wasting time with the Maverick in a manual transmission sport sedan comparison video…

  • @patrickgranfors3273
    @patrickgranfors3273 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Two cars I’m very interested in, still couldn’t manage to finish the episode. TG gone wayyyy down

  • @aleddavies770
    @aleddavies770 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jeez when are engines going?

  • @Nicksory
    @Nicksory 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    HUH? why not bring an auto version of the 2 main cars? ....

  • @hamidataei9541
    @hamidataei9541 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tomorrow in a random indian car channel: Jethro Bovingdon reprisent tata nano vs cycle rickshaw
    Also next day in a random Chinese chanel: Jethro Presents wheelbarrow vs carriage vs Drashke track day group test. 😂

  • @marcusoctober4856
    @marcusoctober4856 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Forget manuals, save Top Gear!

    • @aaronvector4750
      @aaronvector4750 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Forget the manuals" suddenly everything you say is not credible anymore.

  • @fikes73
    @fikes73 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I rather have the ct4v blackwing with the manual. Titanium connecting rods for crying out loud

  • @WayApp
    @WayApp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gearheads unite!

  • @P51
    @P51 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wasn't Jethro on Top Gear America? surprised he was repurposed

  • @Bayne83
    @Bayne83 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why woudn't you compare the CT-4 V?.. I thought the CT-5 V would go up against the M5..

    • @post-leftluddite
      @post-leftluddite 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      if you're wondering, watch Hagerty's video on the CT5-V Blackwing, it beats the M5 CS around the track....figured I'd let you know because it seems like you're a BMW fan taking it personally

    • @user-my4xu4gf1z
      @user-my4xu4gf1z 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chinese Chezang Circuit is the only real track that these cars have raced and the m3/m4 beat it. The m4 GTS and m4 CSL also where ahead. That small little Hagery 1 minute track proves nothing. I wish Cadillac had the balls to post a nurumbring lap time. They would've by now if it performed better then it direct competitor BMW M cars. Ur the 2nd comment ive seen saying it beat the m5cs u are aware the new gen bmw m3 and m4 are faster and more nimble around the track? The m5cs is old news the new gen m5 comes out early next year. Keep in mind even the m5cs beat the ct5 black wing by a bus length in the Hargerty Drag race.
      CT5 blackwing- 11.7 quarter mile
      Bmw m3 xdrive-11.3
      Bmw m3 Cs 11.0
      Bmw m4 xdrive 11.3
      This base model m3 lost by half a second and the dude even said the m3 felt better around the track 8:42 I have neither but the BMW is the better car.

  • @wessleymhlawuli9464
    @wessleymhlawuli9464 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its not the tools its the artisan 😅

  • @marcasswellbmd6922
    @marcasswellbmd6922 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Weight is everything.. My buddy has a Beautiful older FoxBody LX 5.0 and it weigh's like 2750 LB's and probably makes 275 to the wheel's. My 17 S550 GT weigh's 3750lb's makes a solid 400 to the street and he is just about as fast as me in first second and 3rd he's right there with me.. It's not till I get to 5000 RPM in 3rd that I start to drag him.. But I am always blown away at the way he has that older car moving and but moreover how Great his 1990 LX 5.0 handles out on the street.. He has a ton of aftermarket parts in her and I swear it feels like it can handle just like the new cars do without all the sensors and ECU Tech.. He even took out the back drum brakes for the rotor conversion kit..

  • @sresto7943
    @sresto7943 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The day they make a real light weight car with narrower tyres so mr average car have fun is they day we stop looking at times and go back to having real fun.