When Logic Fails us in Poker. Bart’s Favorite Hand of All Time
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ค. 2020
- Bart Hanson's favorite call-in hand since producing the call-in show back in the beginning of 2017. This is a repost of a hand from late last year where the logic of the caller fails himself.
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I miss live poker .. the bots never punt like this
Lol
How is that a punt. It’s a perfectly reasonable GTO bluff. If he shoves river with all full houses and has 67 of clubs and Jack x of clubs here he’s printing. At these stakes most players aren’t going to find bluffs here and the bluff he showed up with is the most reasonable one.
@@johnphillips5374 I think he was talking about the caller
LMFAO
@@CrushlivePoker 100%
I think it is now mandatory for the CLP community to find the villain and get him on the air. To listen to his version of this hand LoL 😂
When you think everyone is going to praise your sick hero call but they just end up questioning every decision you made at every point.
Lol
Dude made the wrong play on every single street and extracted max value looooool
That's why I choose to play "results" lol
Level 1 thinking beats level 3 every time. #TrashTheoryOptimal
I think that's way too harsh. I thought his reasoning for why he flatted the flop made perfect sense. Basically, in case you missed it, the fact that he has AK (the exact hand his opponent is representing) means his opponent's range is automatically more air heavy. When he explained that he would raise with sets because they unblock top pair, Bart even nodded in agreement. I took this as an indication that Bart was non-verbally walking back his criticism at least somewhat. Additionally, the raise on the turn was also not a pure misplay. When his opponent bets for a second time, it becomes much less likely that he has air and the caller still has a very under-repped top pair/top kicker. A raise for value is warranted here because V will have plenty of worse hands that call, most notably KQ/KT and flush draws. The only issue with raising the turn is that you need to be aware that you have now gone from an under-repped hand to an over-repped hand. As a result, I think the optimal play on the river would be to either bet small (looking to extract value from hands like KQ/KT) and fold to a raise, or check/call looking to bluff catch against whiffed club draws trying (fruitlessly) to rep 8x. So, I think he made a minor misplay pre-flop and a major misplay on the river, but flop and turn were okay.
@@connman8d617 The Turn check raise is ridiculous FFS
@@Gos1234567 This guy is notorious for just contrarian bullshit. He is either ridiculously ignorant AND logically impaired, or loves subtle incorrect trolling. Either way the best response is to just ignore the idiot. Does this on every live stream, and whether he believes the shit he types or not is irrelevant. It is a waste of your time.
Edit for clarification: I am advising gerry o sullivan to ignore Connman 8d.
"I play it like set mining almost"
This caller has officially lost me.
Guys absolutely bonkers
Yes. That was the GOAT hand review of all time. This guy has severe Dunning -Kruger syndrome. Amazing view into the mind of the fish at the table. Why are they randomly pressing buttons? Well, now we know.
I don't think he's a bad player. I think he made a couple of questionable decisions on this hand that could have come back in the end to bit him but, luckily for him, didn't.
@@connman8d617 FFS you are defending him all over,are you this guy?
@@Gos1234567 but his graph tells us he's doing very well !
@bud smoker but then you wouldn’t have been able to listen to this call!
This is the type of player you enthusiastically agree with and then promptly invite him to play at your table 😉
This!
Yes, but if he is the fish of the table, he is the kind of fish u have a note on him, « don’t bluff hi, just value »
"what's your name?" 'everyone gets ready to write it down'
Yes listening to him makes me cringe
That guy was literally trying to justify his call and make himself seem like a hero by saying “variance” incorrectly a bunch of times, along with “well my graph this, my graph that”. Honestly hysterical call though, thanks Bart!
It appears that the lady mentioned in the beginning wouldn’t be the only one who could get away with not straddling.
You did great with this caller, being diplomatic but also doing your best to educate
“he could put me on a 8 or 7 right?”... “by check raising the turn to $350?!?!” lol
bart was also confused here: caller was referring to reasons why villain would cbet the turn with a JT - bc he may put us on a 8 or 7 from bb defence.
THE GAMES NOT DEAD BOYS
Never has been, never will be. Every casino I go to you see nuts playing 95% of hands and just throwing money in the pot. There will always be money to be made in Live poker. Online is a different story. That's dying.
God that was tough listening to....
“My graph looks like im mike Postle”
Bart: eye rolls and hangs up lol
24:20 LOL
Lmfaooooo
Yeah that was cringeworthy
@@ThePdog3k The best bit
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
This def. is one of the best calls of all time. For those saying otherwise...as if clarification on decision making in tough spots makes a phone call so much better than another??? Theory is very important but entertainment value is usually a step above.
This is one of the many calls that you get that would have been infinitely more entertaining and insightful if the villain called in. He must have been spinning and out of his mind after this hand. Im sure he'll make the adjustment of identifying hero as a total button clicking donkey and never bluff him again.
Agree that it's a huge tilter. Although I would never bluff this river in villain's shoes. The turn checkraise and river lead makes you really think hero has the nut straight.
This really feels like the caller is tailoring his reads to fit his betting narrative and not the other way around which is what he should be doing. You can definitely change your read mid hand, but you not only did that you also named a super narrow range of KQ/K10 that you were targeting, yet your sizing didn't indicate that you were targeting those holding. Also, very odd to x/r turn when literally the absolute worst card for you rolls off.
The saddest thing is that the villain played this hand very well and in a way that seems to indicate that he is an above-average player; bet large on the flop on a draw heavy board with a hand with a lot of equity when called, bet-call the turn with a hand with equity but little showdown value, and shove the river on a river that is better for his range than the hero's range, turning a hand that blocks equity and is the bottom of his range into a bluff.
Top two is at the bottom of his range on J862Q and should be turned into a bluff?
3 minutes in and caller has already said he is the biggest loser at the table and he likes to flat ak in order to set mine....this a fookin troll call?
think he meant biggest loser for the night which...I don't know, guy kept wanting to talk to justify which makes it seem like a brag call.
Hahahah j forgot he said he wanted to set mine his AK
Lol this is 9999999.9999% value given V line. Bart u were spot on.
Like most of us do when we first start playing, the caller seems to put Villain on WHAT HE WANTS HIM TO HAVE rather than a realistic range. If he’s truly experienced, he must be on Winner’s Tilt thinking he can win every pot.
"Ι dont put him at a King at all". Also almost in the same sentence: "I target KT & K9"
The way he used “variance” but had no idea what it meant was the cherry on top lmao
This was actually my least favourite call. The guy was all over the place. Goes from under repping/trapping to over repping then bluff catching at the end. Pick a lane buddy. This one was hard to sit through.
Haha. Yeah I had a similar reaction to it and not sure why this is Bart's all time favorite call.
I thought it demonstrated how a player's logic can be inconsistent thoroughout the hand.
@@CrushlivePoker logic's a strong word
That is exactly why it is the best call-in ever
This is one of my favourite calls. Let's yah know fish are still kicking, money is to be made, poker is alive and well
The mike apostle line gets me every time🤣
This hand extraction analysis by the caller made my ears bleed. This is a fucking tragedy. Bart looks so tilted this entire video. I can see why this is Bart’s favorite video. It genuinely proves live poker is still not dead.
"And..he's a rec player huh?"😆
Rewatching this video really made me appreciate the caller from the "Calling a String Raise" video. A guy who when reviewing a suspect play who is willing to just say, "yeah yeah I play bad." This caller made my face hurt. He's not looking for a hand review, just a public place to hand brag. God, every time he says something dumb he gives that stupid laugh too. Props to Bart for making it through that call. I would have lost it at some point.
As a viewer I almost lost it... this "hero" is dumb as fuck and I bet his bankroll has already been blown to bits.
Im sure the caller realized poker wasn't as easy as he thought soon after this call ended. 200 hours is nothing. He is a new and inexperienced player who has a lot to learn. His logic was very inconsistent to put nicely.
When bart starts adding up the combos of hands that can beat him (up to about 12 in this hand), I myself am inexperienced, what would you consider combo number wise to be appropriate for calling the villains shove? Less than 6?
@@shtcoinmaxi1367 Last famous words: "I called because number of combos was really low" (??). I do not believe in combo theory. It takes just one combo to beat your hand...so, there is no point calculating others. Combo theory is invented by those who missed reading opps hand strength. So, now, they call and then blame combo when they lost. When push comes to shove you're either beat or not. Number of combos has nothing to do with it.
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(combo theory) Proven wrong in this particular hand: tonnes of combos that beat H, yet, he caught V bluffing!!
@@pot_kivach160 entertaining nonsense, thank you. for some reason i rarely see these read gods at high stakes who just never miss.
My favorite caller of all time was the dude from texas who "couldn't even call in on time"
jacobleblanc27 post link
The way he talks about the hand you’d swear it was a 1/2 Nl 300 cap game…
Lol bart you should have given this guy a reality check when he was talking about moving up stakes. If this is how he is playing winnings can only be from variance. I mean check raising that turn ffs, had me in stitches.
Bart was going to play 5/10 that week in the Bay area lol
🤣😂
''Well I mean like...''
It's clear Villain is leagues better than the caller.
and yet he bluffed with bottom pair after getting raised on the turn with a flush draw against a rec player known for being a station on the river, most of these stations think arriving with top pair is the best hand most of the time so clearly the villain is either and idiot or someone that thinks hes smart and assumes the players hes playing against are smart enough to realize the plays hes making, which in and of itself is idiotic
@@_Ekam2 Well, he's right that villain is a much better player, he correctly deduced caller had 2 or high pair & rep'd trips or FH, most would have folded to his push in (I sure would, in general).
But I agree with you, he should have known caller is the type of player who could not fold pair of K, even though he can not articulate why.
Not really. He failed to see the new fish at the table who made a variety of bad plays in hands before this. Then, he decides to try to bluff him on the river by making a small raise. The caller was still getting 3:1. No rec player is folding a straight on the river for that small of a raise.
Lmao 😂
Def disagree the villian is 'leagues' better. The bluff is insane to me. It just feels reasonable because the Hero somehow got to this spot with a hand that could conceivably fold. But from the Villian's perspective what hands that beat a pair of 7's are playing the hand like the Hero did and then folding river. Trying to bluff out 9T, KJ?, no way this caller is folding this stuff.
I've heard of "Two Girls, One Cup" but this is "Two Maniacs, One Pot"!
not raising flop and check raising turn on one of the worst card of the deck is atrocious
Oh god I know this caller 🙄 in case there was any doubt this is a genuine call and genuine logic. I swear this is not an accurate representation of Bay 101 in any form.
Except the old lady who doesn’t straddle, that does happen occasionally.
Is he really a winning player? :p
I really don’t know. But from my table time with him, I’d assume not.
I'm going out on a limb and guessing this guy is a college age Asian dude, right?
@@Sshooter444 idk how old he is but minimum 2x college age
Plot twist. Villain turns out being Phil Helmuth. Furious: "How can he call with AK off!!!"
The title is such a troll 🤣. Thanks for the content Bart haha
Telling friends to watch this particular hand review reminds me of the Saturday Night Live Skit "Bad Decision Family" ... .it starts off with them passing a carton of spoiled milk around each of them verifying that the milk has indeed gone bad.
Wow, just wow, flatting with AK, check-calling flop, check-raising turn with only one pair, betting BIG on the river with just top-top when there's so many full houses villian could conceivably have, getting shoved on and winning because his logic makes no sense and it's the one time the villain turned his hand into a bluff? I want that guy at my table, all I have to do is play him ABC tight-aggressive and watch him overthink his way to the rail.
"I'm a really big winner... over 200 hours"
The caller is pretty close minded and results oriented.
Yeah, but he is the 2nd coming of Mike postle how could he not be close minded
Lol this caller though
“I look like Mike Postle kind of”. Gold.
Man that caller is a fish
I am literally LMFAO at this caller.
This dude will get smashed in any legit 5/10 game.
Dude will get smashed in a 1-1 game lol.
That dude gets smashed in every poker game he sits at
Me: That caller made so many mistakes. What a loser!
Also me: can’t beat 1-3 and plays just as bad if not worse.
I mean 99/100 they just have jj all day. I think it’s a really good bluff from the player in ut g. He blocks 77 which is the only set hero can have. He’s range is so strong it’s either just a personal(live read) call or donk call just don’t fold tptk
And ij makes perfect sense, he bet call the turn.
Interesting call. I mostly tune into these to hear Bart’s logic rather than the caller’s logic (or lack thereof), but sometimes hearing their thought process is quite illuminating. I’m not claiming to be the best player but would never in a million years play this hand like this. That being said I’ve seen this type shit in many live games and am usually left scratching my head after the hands are revealed.
This caller low-key wanted to brag about his hero call on the river. If he put Villain on a flush draw or smaller K at best, wouldn't it make more sense to check call? Logic all over the plac
Check/call or bet/fold both make some sense. Bet/call is just spew.
Would love to know how this guys bankroll is today. He was so proud of this one in 1000 spot that he was ready to move up in stakes. There’s a non zero chance he’s busted or back to playing 1/3
I want to see more players like this caller at my table.
Bart: don’t tap the glass. Thx.
'muh graph lookz like postle!' - says a dude with an admitted sample of ~5k hands.
To be fair only mike postle and a complete total idiot could have doubled up in that pot
200 hours? He's been playing a week or two and winning big!
The best part was when he was like, dude my graph is straight up with no variance..
I about spit out my drink when he said he has 200 hours of data.
Am I wrong or did villain play that way better then hero?
Villain seems like a very good player, im sure he'll make the adjustment to not bother bluffing complete donkeys like the hero
Caller is over thinking this big time
Mike you have an open invite to alllll my home games when live poker comes back
Dude was like "I was the biggest loser at the table". Ya don't say.
lol this is incredible
Ugh this guy is painful to listen to. It's always amusing to hear people ask for advice when struggling only to tell the mentor why they are corrrect and everyone else is wrong ...
Logic is a strong fucking word.
Poor guy honestly the insecurity lol
Wish I could play with like 7-8 of these heros everyday !!!!!
Lets figuere it out...
10bb/hour, over 200 hours.
You may get dealt 20 hands/hour.
So thats 50bb/100 and he plays AK like this. Sounds legit.
Sample of ~5k hands. Every dog has their day.
This dude giving Bart a melt down a hahahahahahhaha can I join this game!?!?
would love to be in a game with Mike haha
Good lord he sucks. And he's a big winner in this game? How bad the players at Bay must be.
Paul Sakowski no no no, HE SAYS he’s a big winner in that game lol. Man he even said his graph looks like Mike Postles and he is a proven cheater so you know this man is full of bullshit!
200 hours. Means basically fuckall
@@paulsakowski4657 every live player is a winner duh
Love it when fish call in
Ive watched this 4-5 times and I’m astounded every time
Your super critical I need a coach like you man seriously ….
Great video. Given what he was saying about graphs at the end I think you should have had something about sample size in the title.
Bro how did you keep from falling over LOLing with this? I gotta get back into live cash if this is a regulars thought process
Maybe my logic is not very sooouuundd in that situation 😂
Villain shouldn't have tried to bluff the fish.
Live Poker is still alive baby
Ahh...so that’s how you play AK
Bart i love you but this was just painful. You've got a hero who is just horrendously bad with strategies that are such crazy deviations from theory for no reason, its the classic example of button clicking.
The way guy constructed his line makes me think, he might not even be a winning player at 1/3 let alone higher, if his graph is actually true he must be running absurdly hot relative to his skill level. I think he even mentioned he had his sample size was only 200 hours, so not sure why he's even bragging in the first place.
I admire your effort to try to educate him without offending him but given his arrogance and delusional self belief he might have been better if you jsut ripped into him.
Lol this is pretty good, gotta admit
Never seen anyone butcher a hand so much ,can’t believe this guy with his logic n theory is a big winner in any game 😅
I wanna play poker with this guy.
7 minutes left help me god. guessing villain has pocket 77s or naked ace of clubs
Hey, if you see this as your best call-in of all time, that's great, but TBH this is the first time I couldn't make it to the end of one of your hand breakdown videos. I just couldn't handle listening to the caller interrupt you, argue, justify his decision-making against the advice you're offering etc. all the way through the video. Either way, I love this channel, and appreciate both what you share and the time you take to educate people who are willing to listen and (hopefully) improve their game.
Whooosh
@@bakaraymoo7389 Key word: 'if.'
that look at 9:20.... without saying a word.. youre going OMG, you gotta be f**ing kidding me... you didnt.............
epic.. :-)
The new Doug Polk 🤣🤣
lol what....doug is a monster
Sure am glad he fell off the radar...perhaps people had enough of him calling legends like Johnnie Chan "fish", eh? Such a pile of manure.
@@CommonwealthDank a monster who lives under a bridge
Bart: keeps leading this guy to water
guy: not drinking
Bart: okay let's have a look at the chat
I think there's only 1 combo of 87 suited on that board, only the 87 of spades is available. Hilarious ending btw on the variance comment haha
Ngl by the time Bart was asking what the villain had I was kind of hoping Mike was gonna say 88 for the nuts 😂
Poker is still alive folks 😂😂😂
What a bluff from the vilain, I would have folded all day long. The hero played...poorly to say the least! lol
The more this guy talked, the more apparent it became he had no idea what he was doing.
Villain is a fucking G for running that bluff! It definitely should’ve gotten that through.
This is hero in this call. First of all I admit I am a losing player in 5-10 over 40 hours but most of the losses(abt 7k) come from losing with top set of aces twice in heads up hands. My hourly over 280 hours recorded is about 75 in 2-5. I admit I am a bit of a station for some reason in 5-10 and I don’t know the player pool well but know the 2-5 pool extremely well.
Some thoughts now on this hand. Pre-flop I am okay not raising since it was heads up and I am closing the action. Villian was raising wide range on button but not calling many 3 bets, I want to play a hand. Flop-the flop bet was a little bigger 3/4pot instead of the call amount. V had extreme high C bet so I put him on mostly air because high C bet amount seems like he wanted a fold. Turn-when he bet I put him on a hand, most likely K or maybe second pair with some draw. I am okay with raise because I think I am still ahead...also I was prepared to raise fold here. On the river, in a vacuum lead is big is a pretty bad play. However I had a bluffy image...and I was down a lot so was greedy with a big bet. On calling the shove, mostly a read of his reaction on the turn check raise. Did not put him on most full houses/straight because expect a shove on the turn with a set since my check raising range is wider than the nuts. Does not expect shove from trips or a straight on river or kj. I block some full houses with K, either losing to 87 or V bluff. However typically people in 5-10 is never bluffing in this situation. I made the call due to the turn read was a wtf not strong hand reaction, pot odds and I was down and trying to get even.
Also I am surprised that you guys think the V played correctly here. His river shove is infinitely worse then whatever errors that I might have made in this hand. Fuck GTO, this is not clicking buttons online. Hell hero calling with his pair might be better. I am either bluffing which he beats or it was clear from my image that day I wasn’t going to fold especially given his reaction on the turn, we were not deep enough for him to shove and seriously what the fuck he is repping on the river.
Btw...the casino is at Bay 101, you guys are welcome to come here because trust me there way bigger fishes than me here.
Worst Hand analysis ever lmao.
I want to see where the graph went, assuming you have 1000 hours at least now
Still justifying bad plays in comments.
Hey bro, I play at Bay 101 and I’m 2/435 comments who think it wasn’t a bad play. It was very creative. I saw one of the biggest winners at Lucky Chances one time flat QQ from the bb against a Btn steal. He flopped an overpair and three barrel donked into the btn for stacks and was good. Never seen anything like that before or since. Top pair is really strong against recs in these games maybe more so 4 years ago. You basically removed AK from your 3b range in order to get to a flop with this guy with a strong hand. Agree villain river shove was trash laying you 3:1. He just couldn’t call and didn’t want to lose the hand. Also I think the reason why people are trashing you so hard is because of how Bart framed this whole video basically you were doomed in the title lol. I love Bart too though. Awesome content
I can maybe get behind the preflop flat. But as soon as I see that connected board on the flop, the money is going in. Hero raises. Villain could shove with the pair and flush draw. Hero snaps. Far less interesting but same result.
You can win a hand with flawed logic, maybe two. To get postle like numbers where your overall viewpoint is flawed? The table table talk has to be "HEE HAW" 🤠🤣. Everything Hanson deduced was spot on, the man has some table cred🤙
I kind of want him to play whatever stakes I happen to be playing. ;)
cool story bro nice call, where is this casino again? :P
"he definately has me beat easiest fold ever 76cc only 1 combo" ' ah I called it! 76cc I'm spot on today"
The caller had nfi. And arguing his pt all the time like he couldn't understand how bad he okayed this hand 😊
The caller is a typical tight passive nit reg
This is poker. Making the worst decision on every street and still end up a huge winner (at least in this hand). Good for education purposes! And I agree, this is a full house or better 9 times out of 10.
Just listening to this guy. He is the FISH