If youre a sith lord pretending to be a politician youd want to have a lot of middle men if youre going to assasinate a senator. If i remember correctly he wasnt discovered so the plan makes sense and it worked.
You didn’t talk about the fact that Darth Maul tried to run over Anakin on Tatooine with his speeder. At that point in the movie, Maul had no idea who he was or his significance, he just wanted hit some random kid with his bike.
Imagine if, with Obi-Wan hanging on for dear life after being Force-pushed by Darth Maul to end their fight, Maul walks away because the war around him is lost. Obi-Wan jumps out of the hole and cradles Qui-Gon's lifeless body in his arms. Now, we have a setup for Obi-Wan's rivalry with Maul through the other two films. Maul killed his mentor, and Obi-Wan wasn't strong enough to kill Maul, and Maul will only become more powerful in the Dark Side. Now, we have something to look forward to, and we're rooted in Obi-Wan's desire to want to fight Maul again. Instead, what we got was George inventing a new villain in the second movie then inventing another new villain in the third movie because he wanted to kill the second new villain early in the third movie despite this second villain showing he's so powerful that he can stand up to Yoda. It just doesn't make sense.
I always like to imagine that Palpatine's big secret is actually that he has no fucking clue what's going on, and the whole series is him just faking it until it works.
@@JayJaycubbsgod fucking damnnnnn. I have seen you under almost every comment for 4 months now. Get a fucking life. These movies are BAD movies. Sorry but your childhood didn’t produce good movies. It’s fine if you like Them but having the audacity to say they are good is delusional
And that assassin would've sent their r2 unit who would've communicated with a satellite which would have sent a message to another assassin who would've sent jar jar binks sister to go kill padme.
well, that would be in line with the opening where two bigger fish eat smaller fish over the course of five minutes, or less. i though i was having a stroke. "what? didn't i JUST see that?"
Star Wars was always about politics. The Empire are basically space nazis. And if you tell how a dictatorship is created than you have to talk about politics, even more. So yeah, I never understood that criticism. The integration of politics is only natural and I never found it to be boring as a child. No child did. They just ignore the lines they don't get.
@@Ambar42 I think the politics was definitely needed but I think I would have shown it in a more engaging action-packed blockbuster way. Also it should complement the story not really be the main causes of the story or dominate most actions of the story. I think if it was more like that, it would be better, I liked the addition of politics but politics could've been handled a lot better.
@C man Man well calling someone with an opinion a liar, hypocrite, and likes violence is not only stupid but fucking psychotic. This person hadn't done anything and you just came out here with no apparent reason, calling this guy shit. Fuck off man
@C man Man the commenter was saying the prequels were good, and I love the prequels what the fuck are you on about like dude we have the same opinions, fuck off. And what the fuck does Anita have to with anything, you autistic fuck!
I never even thought about that until now. So little makes sense in those movies my brain just gets foggy and I don't think about it but I still get confused.
I do kinda respect the audacity of these movies. It was like George wanted to write a Shakespearean tragedy, worked backwards from the Darth Vader concept, and tripped every step of the way. And there is a good story buried somewhere in these movies, there was just nobody to tell George "no."
Which is an interesting comment since apparently George was constantly accepting the cast's questions and observations That's how Windu ended up having a purple saber and Yoda does a saber toss
And it could have been such a Shakespearean like story for Anakin to turn to the dark side. But unfortunately that story is buried under so much bullshit. It’s too dense and too bloated to actually focus on Anakin.
Apparently George had actually been reaching out to other directors like Steven Spielberg, but none of them wanted to work on the films in fear of damaging the franchises' legacy. He was basically left to manage almost all creative elements of the Prequels, and so his weaknesses (dialogue, etc) were far more prevalent than they ever were in the Original Trilogy.
George Lucas: The Phantom Menace is more targeted towards kids... Also George Lucas: "The taxation of trade routes to outlying star systems" 6 year old me: ah yes big words
To be more specific he says it’s a movie for 12 year olds. Idk about everyone else but but I think most middle schoolers are probably familiar with the trade routes.
Well it’s not a major concern of the movie either. They briefly talk about it at the start of the opening crawl and palpatine mentions it again on time during the senate meeting. Most of the movie is focused on the invasion of naboo itself not why the political motivations behind it. Even Lucas himself said it wasn’t important when interviewed.
Not exactly apparently Padme dies through a combination of Anakin, choking her into unconsciousness, and Palpatine, apparently taking her life force to give to Anakin on Mustafar now correct me if I’m wrong because I’m not fully integrated into all of the Star Wars lore but after pulling from all sorts of different sources, about this moment, that I have memories of. It seems like the most likely scenario based on what I remember
Conrad Kujur Right? No one in these movies act like real people with emotions. It isn’t that they are Jedi, or that they’re from space, it’s that the dialogue is really bad and the actors weren’t told how to delivery these lines in an believable way. That’s a failure of direction
And the saddest thing is that i don't have problems with the story but that dialogue... Also, remember awful George Lucas dialogue since A New Hope. You see Obiwan's development through the prequels, and going back to his fight against Vader in A New Hope is very clunky: *"Only a Master of Evil Darth"* .
Return of The Jedi: *"From a certain point of View"* . I will not say anything about the sequel trilogy because George himself said that there is no episode VII. The sequels aren't canon and simply Disney's greed.
a BIG issue with these movies is that george also wanted to expand mediums, comic books, tv shows, etc. but then they made so many new things it was hard to keep track and then ALL OF IT WAS FAKE I GUESS
If you’re talking about most of that shit being Legends now I feel like it really doesn’t matter since The Clone Wars is all you really need and is still cannon and shit like the Genndy Tartakovsky animation was already decanonized by that show. Also doesn’t help that there was a live action show on Coruscant that would seemingly explain more stuff and had like 80 episodes planned out but then they just never made it lol. Regardless, it still baffles me that Lucas would make a trilogy that would cryptically allude to shit like “Cypher Diaz” and expected anybody to have a reaction other than annoyance and confusion.
Remember when Count Dooku straight up told Obi Wan that there was a Sith Lord operating in the senate, and manipulating the jedi? Remember when Obi Wan was basically like "Ok Boomer"?
@Sam Lim yeah but still it's not a good excuse for them being idiots I like how they ignore emotions which led to Anakin's fall but there are sometimes these jedi council feel like a moron clan
@@a.f9234 It kind of works in hindsight, like the way TLJ portrayed it, but when you have actors performing a script like this it just comes across as stupidity rather than arrogance.
@@professorsuge6567 Whether it is or not is a seperate discussion, I just wrote that the exploration of the jedi being flawed worked better in that movie and made me rethink the prequels.
@@Daniel-gp6sd Bruh what the fuck are you smoking?! There was a clear time skip between Episode 2 and Episode 3 and the former even ends with the start of the Clone Wars. How in the hell is that "just as bad" as Palpatine comning back to life off screen between Episode 6 and Episode 9?
@@noahvoss7320 I wouldn't say that, it's not to their fault that they dislike three fantastic films. They just don't like them for one reason or another and that's perfectly fine.
The section about Jar Jar is so true. Even in Red Letter Media’s video on Phantom Menace there’s a really funny scene where he asks people to name personality traits of the main characters and they couldn’t do it for the episode 1 characters. The only one I could actually do that for in the prequels was Jar Jar.
@@knightmare5097 So can anyone if they really reach hard enough but "stoic" "boring" or "serious" aren't great especially if most of the characters are like that.
During the filming of Attack of The Clones, Natalie Portman and Hayden Christensen, in their scenes together, played a prank on George Lucas by pretending they had never acted before. Lucas loved the prank so much, he ended up using most of the footage in the final cut.
soldier tf2 I wont lie, I was ready to believe it considering the visual evidence we got from the movie haha (not even their faults, its just the direction)
TheycallmeRisky Another one is in the clone wars I believe there’s a scene of anakins Padawan asking him if he would be willing to teach a class of children Jedi I forgot what you call them but Anakin says I would probably kill them
The sequel trilogy story just sucks, dude. I’m sorry, but with the prequel trilogy you can make sense of (at least) most of it but the sequel trilogy makes no damn sense and it’s so self-important it’s frustrating
Not of itself. Being a pastiche of tropes and other movies is something (Tarantino does it) but redoing your own movie (A New Hope) and calling it a new one (Force Awakens) is ridiculous and a complete waste of time and money. Would you have liked if Empire Strikes back had been a remake of A New Hope?
@@ngs2683 I understand your point and I myself didn't love Force Awakens and I did think it was too derivative at times but I forgave it because it needed to reel general Audiences back into Star Wars. Remember that this was the first Star Wars film in 10 years and the last 3 were Despised to no end, so they had to reel the Audience back in with something safe and familiar before they could really start exploring new themes and ideas. Last Jedi was also quite Derivative of ESBs story structure but also tries to explore new ideas and themes as well as subvert the Audiences expectations and even though it didn't do it perfectly and I do think that the ideas could've been polished, it's really trying to do something new. Rise of Skywalker... no that movie's just terrible.
It's the fault of the people that bullied him. No one forced them to be horrible people. Star Wars didn't ruin it. The people did. Perhaps it did ruin his acting career but that's it
The idea of midichlorians is just so goofy to me. You don't need to explain supernatural. In the five night's at freddy's franchise, the creator tried to provide a scientific explanation to why the robots are possessed. Nobody needs that.
That's a very good comparison. And just like midichlorians, remnant (the fnaf explanation) removes a lot of interest in the supernatrual. Boiling shit like that down to simple science is boring as hell.
"You don't need science or evolutionary theories to explain how the Earth and life on it was formed. We all know that it was created in 7 days by some invisible deity only 6000 years ago. You don't need to explain supernatural"
To be fair, it makes some sense that Palpatine would have a long chain of people in order to have Padme killed so that he can cover his tracks and seem innocent and have an alibi. However, that still doesn’t mean that Marcus’ explanation of Palpatine’s plan isn’t the funniest fricking thing on the internet.
@@JayJaycubbs right Neut Gunray wanted “her head on [his] desk”. He was behind the assassination attempts, not Palpatine. Palpatine just took advantage of the situation to promote his own agenda, that’s what makes him truly formidable. It’s not that he knows everything that’s going to happen before it happens, it’s that he’s able to innovate and adapt to any situation.
@@Benjahmin1138 it’s a combination of both. Palpatine used the failed assassination attempt as an opportunity to keep Padme away from voting against an army by sending her to Naboo, as well as to foster a relationship between her and Anakin. Which he uses to further his goal in RotS. But he is very strong with the force and he can see visions to an extent. Which he mentions numerous times in the original trilogy, so that helped him too
Darth Jar Jar was the best defense, because that unironically turned people around on his character concept and made people wish he was featured more in the trilogy
That, and the fact that Ahmed Best, the guy who played Jar Jar, was really devastated by the amount of hate against Jar Jar that he almost killed himself. What's worse is that had he done so, some people would've been happy.
I have watched attack of the clones so many times in my life and I could not tell you one thing that happens in that movie. I get like brain fog everytime it comes on and just sit there watching it without grasping anything of what im watching
I wish so badly they used the shape shifter thing to frame someone or something. I love when cool little details are added for literally no reason and they add nothing but confusion to the plot. Great story telling that is
And it's pretty clear that he only fought him to see how strong Palpatine truly was as a sith lord. Once he got a taste, he realized there wasn't much chance.
Even if Yoda won the fight, it wouldn't have changed anything. The Jedi were done for and as Palpatine said, Vader would be more powerful than either of them. That's why it was useless for Yoda to even try, Palpatine already won in the grand scheme of things before the fight even started. It's the Sith way for the apprentice to kill the Master, and I'm sure Palpatine was expecting that. As Anakin said to Padme he could overthrow them. I imagine he went into exile because he would have been easily killed by clone troopers as well as Vader who hunted down the remaining Jedi.
@@crocs4304 In TF2, there's a map called High Tower. While technically a payload map, the community considers it a team death match where moving the bomb cart is discouraged unless both teams agree to end the match. The result is a bunch of headless chickens running around hosting dance parties, sniper/spy duels, and that one asshole running a gunslinger in an active attempt to ruin the fun. In essence, the Clone Wars are High Tower. Technically, there's an end goal. However, there's a secret arbitrary agreement set by a third party that prevents anyone from actually winning. As a result, the Clone Wars are a series of expensive battles, hostage situations that can't involve any important people, and some red asshole actively trying to wrest away control of the war.
Well the Clone Wars was largely fought on objectives. I don't know if Sidious limiting the construction of devastating new CIS droids is canon anymore. But a lot of the battles make sense on why they happened. Utapau, Geonosis, Kamino, Kashyyyk you name them.
Even as a child I knew that these three films weren't very good. Why? Because I always skipped forwards to the action scenes with the cool fight choreography and amazing music. I only did this with very few movies. Also realizing the entire chain of handing the job to kill Padme to someone/something else had me in stitches.
@@cmigbear how can someone never be gone if god doesn't exist? if someone's still here in spirit even though god not real? Oh wait memories and shit nevermind
i think its so funny how both the final movie of the prequel and sequel trilogy start with a universe altering event that involves palpatine and happens off screen for some reason
So Gunray asked Palpatine to kill Padme but he sends Dooku who sends a man, who sends a shape shifter, who sends a robot, who sends bug, TO GO KILL PADME!!!
A big reason people like the prequels and then turn around and call the sequels even worse, even though they're the same, is because they use well-established characters. While the sequels and prequels both struggle with many of the same elements, the prequels already have an advantage because the audience is watching these like, "Look, that's the guy I know. Look, that's the guy I know. Look, that's the guy I know."
3:24 “What kills me is when people say these movies are good and these aren’t.” I wanna be someone who can respect any opinion, but god damn, you just spoke my mind!
he specifically picked bad scene from prequels and the best from sequels, pick Luke drinking blue milk or any Rey scene, or you can also pick Luke kissing Leia in OT, what is that about, it's clear manipulation
@@MosheGames so prequels are worse than sequels in your opinion, failed copy of OT trilogy with cameos and owerpowered characters that have no character? Enlighten me sir
Have you watched the prequels in recent years? Have you ever paid attention to character development, stakes, world-building, choreography, or consistency while watching these movies? If you did, you would clearly see, why the prequels are superior to the sequels in every aspect other than broad visuals. The prequels tell an actual story with a clear throughline and thought put into it while heavily expanding on the OT without ever conflicting with it. The sequels achieve the exact opposite.
Poor Hayden Christiansen. He's not a bad actor, but I feel like these movies wrecked his career and it wasn't his fault. I mean he's not a genius, but he's perfectly serviceable. The script did him dirty.
He's a fine actor indeed. Watch Shattered Glass about the journalist who made up stories for a hoity-toityn Washington magazine. Hayden Christensen plays the main role and does so very well. It's a shame movies like Shattered Glass get ignored while trash, junk food movies are celebrated and marketed throughout the world, watched, analysed and discussed in thousands of videos and millions of crappy blog posts masquerading as news articles. If Shattered Glass was as well known as Star Wars, Hayden Christiansen's career would have skyrocketed. Instead, it plummeted.
And then he dies...only to somehow secretly manipulate Leia and Han's son to take over some new invading force and train his granddaughter to be powerful enough to be a new vessel...yeah...why?
17:58 It took me the entire 10 seconds of this clip to realise it wasn't actually a screenshot and those characters were actually stood absolutely stock still in an entirely static shot. God damn it who does that?!
They’re discussing important information for where they will be heading to after their ship got damaged. Of course they’re not gonna do the Harlem Shake like you would expect 😂
@@JayJaycubbsthat's not the point. The point is the combination of static standing people combined with a static shot. The people don't have to dance but the camera work could be better
@@JayJaycubbsyou do realize film is a VISUAL MEDIUM, right? So, actually yes, the cinematography is incredibly important to make movie engaging to watch.
In regards to Episode 1 I think Darth Maul was the biggest positive to come out of not just the movie but the prequels as a whole he had an onscreen presence and he had little lines but that added to the mystique and the way he carried himself with this silent powerful presence
"Characters coming up with a plan" "Characters coming up with a plan" "CHARACTERS COMING UP WITH A PLAN!" *"CHARACTERS COMING UP WITH A PLAN!!"* *"C H A R A C T E R S C O M I N G U P W I T H A P L A N ! ! !"*
Palpatine didn't want Padme dead here. He wanted her to feel threatened so she could leave Coruscant and allow him to come into power without opposition as she was against the clone army. So, why would he want someone important like Jango or Dooku to try and assassinate her themselves? They would likely succeed or end up dying which at least increases the likelihood of his plan failing. Also, how would the Changer girl be able to assassinate Padme without the droid or the bugs? She wouldn't be able to just sneak in as the Jedi were guarding her.
@@donaldjgumpofficial5754 Why would they need to sneak in when there's a huge window made of glass(because Obi-won can jump through it) with the blinds open. Also, what good does it do to make assumptions that the movie doesn't give us? You might as well tell me an invisible dragon made of chocolate is the secret puppetmaster behind Palpatine, because the movie doesn't tell us that either but it's just as plausible.
@@donaldjgumpofficial5754 Also, I'd like to point out that killing her would *also* negate her as opposition against the clone army. Since apparently they can just put Jarjar there in her absence and he votes in favor of it.
I feel that my opinion on these movies became way better after I saw the clone wars show. It doesnt change the problems with these movies but it gives all the context that these movies missed and gives the characters all the development the movies didn't
I think that's fair to an extent, but ultimately the movies need to hold up on their own. If you have a movie trilogy, you should be able to understand it just by watching the movies in it. You can't introduce someone to the movies and expect them to watch an entire tv show at the same time to understand it. It's like when people excuse bad film adaptations not explaining important elements of the plot properly because "it's explained in the books". The movie should be able to function on its own. If these films don't make sense without watching the TV show, they failed.
@@ClaraFinnthankfully these movies make perfect sense on their own. It’s just a matter of paying attention instead of ignoring blatant information to make some sort of false narrative that nobody in their right mind would agree with
I always thought Palpatine's plan in AOTC (and TPM) made sense. In TPM, he orchestrates the blockade to become Chancellor. In AOTC, he does the assassination attempt to 1.) Make the separatists look violent to pressure the military creation and 2.) Get Anakin to be Padme's bodyguard so they can get close and fall in love and get Anakin to turn to the dark side
I’ll have to rewatch AOTC but I thought the assassination attempt to mainly prevent Padme from voting against the army and Anakin being her bodyguard was just a coincidence
@@kingawesome5219 Of course the "intent" was to prevent her voting against (or more importantly, making the speech against) the army but it was really all part of Palpatine's scheming.
@@CosmosWater That's why it's a hot take! Imo his score in Revenge of the Sith improves the movie a lot. While Empire is so good even without the iconic Imperial March.
Oddly enough in Ep. 2 he actually didn’t do anything but keep everything wholesome 😂 in Ep. 1 he was too fuckin much but in Ep2 he’s not so bad (not even just bc of less screen time)
"I HATE YOU!" is one of the most memed lines in the history of Star Wars but it's also one of the only lines in all 3 movies that has believable emotion behind it.
Yeah, but at that point it's a useless line considering the fight gets absolutely ridiculous to the point of laughter when they fall from some tower and stand in droids flowing through some lava river or whatever, the I hate you line could've worked in any other way
I just realized that nobody that gets thrown into a hole dies in Star Wars. Darth Maul? Came back (Clone Wars + Rebels). Palpatine? Is coming back (Episode 9). Luke (Empire)? Gets saved by the Falcon(Leia, Chewie etc.). Luke, again (Rancor, Episode 6)? Survives. Boba Fett (Sarlacc Pit)? He survived in Legends and might have survived in canon. It is ridiculous.
@@HitlerGaymes123-_- imagine if every single duel was like Episode 4… even throughout the clones wars and order 66 imagine Anakin slaying all the Jedi in the temple by standing 10 feet away and poking at them like your holding a fucking breadstick.
You completely dropped the ball on your “Why is Anikan killing Dooku seen as evil?” It was seen as evil because Dooku had his hands cut off and was no longer a threat. Meaning Anikan essentially executed a surrendering prisoner, which is a war crime I believe.
@@JayJaycubbs Dooku was attacking Anakin and Obi Wan with a lightsaber and the force, up UNTIL he got unarmed. Jango was attacking Windu with a blaster UNTIL he got unarmed. They were both disarmed, then murdered when they didn't need to be. lol
You forgot how in Star Wars: Attack of the Clones, Count Dooku literally EXPLAINS to Obi-Wan who Darth Sidious is and that he created both the armies, which Obi-Wan just doesn’t believe and ignores
@@snake3516 he could have still told the Jedi counsel or launched some kind of investigation just to be sure, in real life if a politician claims he knows that another politician is doing something wrong then the government always launches an investigation even if they think the accusations are false I mean it’s the equivalent of a member of the Taliban claiming to work with joe Biden and nobody doing anything about it
@@vivalleTFT word. People really forget that they didn’t exist when the prequels came out and how much plot holes got fixed after they got created in the first place
"Secretly genius these prequels are. Many original ideas these movies have." "The prequels, while suffering from flaws, were most definitely Star Wars stories." **SHUT, UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!**
@@saitamaonepunch4140 I see some flaws in them but at the same time they have very enjoyable scenes and are really creative and don't forget the utterly cool vehicles.
funnily enough one of the first things i noticed on a rewatch is how inconsistent the scoring in the phantom menace is. when it’s there it’s great but it’s definitely absent in some weird spots (the first half of the podracing scene) apparently not even the music can be wholly good lol
26:25-26:57: plus if you really really want to be an arse and consider the Lego Skywalker saga video game's interpretation canon, then the bugs don't want to kill Padme themselves, so then they ask an anvil to go kill Padme but the anvil doesn't want to do it itself, so it asks gravity to go kill Padme. So, in short gravity was the curpit behind Padme’s assassination attempt.
@Joseph Tacitus To be fair, in canon, Anakin spent at least an hour on Mustafar without working lungs. If we're taking the old EU into account, Darth Sion was literally chunks of gristle and bone fragments held together with hate.
@Joseph Tacitus I didn't say it was "too much". Since Palpatine already managed a few dozen resurrections in the Old EU, this is par for the course. That said, how the Force works has always been ill-defined at best. The first two movies made it seem as if Force users were simply space warrior monks who had some minor telepathy and limited precognition powers, with stronger users capable of telekinesis. The third movie implies that really strong, really evil users could shoot lightning, but that was more or less shown to be extremely rare and notable when it did occur. The Prequel trilogy starts really straining suspension of disbelief. Suddenly, the Force makes people jump good and have stamina on par with Olympic athletes (except when they don't). People can see important future events and can feel the Force guiding them towards that event (except when they don't). The Force can be used to create life (except when it can't).
@@a.f9234 No, he also said "the dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural" and a resistance member says "secrets only the Sith knew". There you have it, JJ's explaination
What bother me is that why didn't anyone told George that his dialogue for The Prequel trilogy was bad, before shooting, and why can't George not see that his dialogue is garbage
39:02 I'm so glad you point this out. Count Dooku gets a lot of praise from the fanbase. But to me his character just seems like a lesser version of Palpatine. Maul actually felt more like a real threat. And since he killed Qui Gon, there could have been some good character defining scenes with him and Obi Wan.
The reason he gets so much praise is mostly the extended universe and the clone wars where other writers actually did interesting things with him. None of the stuff that people like about him is actually in the movies themselves. Same with Grievous.
That's total bullshit. Fans like him because unlike most of the other villains in the series, Dooku had a more complex goal that isn't "take over the galaxy for personal gain" like Palpatine. He was dissatisfied with the Jedi and how corrupt and dogmatic they had become, as well as the Republic as a whole since they weren't helping all those in need. Hence why the Separatist movement started because a lot of systems wanted a change in leadership and how the galaxy should operate for the good of everyone, and Dooku became a major figurehead for that movement because he wanted to cleanse and rebuild the Republic as well as rebuild the Jedi Order since they were blinded by the obvious snake in the room, being Sidious. This is all established in Episode 2 with his talk with Obi-Wan, stating that even Qui-Gon was wise enough to see just how bloated the Jedi had become, given that he was once Dooku's apprentice. And plus this is shown in his actions in 2, since he isn't purely reliant on hatred or rage when in combat like other Sith (notice how he doesn't have the yellow Sith Eyes that Maul, Palps and Anakin have in 1 and 3, or how his use of force lightning is more flowing and direct and not chaotic and stormy like Palpatine's). He's a more calculated duelist who prefers to taunt his opponents, and even when he defeats Anakin and Obi-Wan, he has a look of despair and/or regret, which is contrary to how Maul acted after killing Qui-Gon. Showing that even though he was victorious in that moment, he took no solace in it and he actually did have some level of respect for them as they were both his former peers. Sure it's very very subtle and the movies could've had more scenes of him explaining his distaste for the Republic, but it does exist in the movies regardless. And no, I'm not pulling this from Clone Wars or any external sources if that's what you're gonna assume as I know next to nothing about either of those
@@JayJaycubbsI get what u mean but they should've had more scenes of him explaining a bit more of his motivations and they should've gave him a little bit more depth and character development
@@hellothere-bx8cf I agree. I’d say that my main criticism for Attack of the Clones is that there’s a lack of connective tissue between the events that happen, and that there was a lot of scenes that were cut that should’ve been in the film. One of them being a scene where Obi-Wan talks to the librarian in the temple, and she explains Dooku’s origins and how he had a falling out with the Jedi and the Republic. I think they should have kept that scene in as it does give Dooku’s character more depth, but I guess it was cut out because the movie was already very long and George probably wanted Dooku’s character to be a mystery until the third act
@@JayJaycubbs yeah ik but that scene wasn't even that long and even if it was, there were some scenes that is in the movie that is just unnecessary to be it e.g the stupid action scene in geonosian droid factory where padme fell into a cup😂
@Autismo but remember, back then no one knew what the clone wars were, the excellent show didn't exist, so when yoda talked about the clone wars nobody was surprised, considering that, maybe they should've started on the clone wars and finish on rots
honestly as boring and lifeless these movies are I’m glad they helped create something good like the clone wars show and overall expanded the universe in a positive way.
I remember telling my dad about the prequels and he wasn’t very amused. He also would be annoyed whenever I referred to A New Hope because back when he went to see the movie it was just called “Star Wars”.
Same here. My dad saw the original in theaters as well, and as for myself I honestly just pretend the prequels aren;t from the same universe. IV is always going to be just "Star Wars" to me.
@@kylecope528 Yeah, I honestly can’t consider them within the same universe myself, which annoys me so much because it could’ve been so much better. I always liked Clone Wars because it really felt like a deep dive of Anakin to me, truly analyzing the character in a way that makes him actually a good person in the beginning. If they had that same kind of character in these prequels, I would’ve never thought of them as bad as I do now.
Exactly. I am tired though of fans who claim the Clone Wars somehow "redeems" the prequels, as if a failed movie can some how be made better by adding on supplementary material to make up for poor screenwriting decisions. The prequels could have been much better. I see Jude Law as a young Obi-wan aside an actor more resembling Sebastian Shaw (That's one benefit The Clone Wars had--Anakin's model looked more like something that could grow up into the unmasked Vader we see at the end of Jedi.), with enough complexity surrounding Anakin's turn so that it felt like an authentic Greek tragedy rather than a recap of the backstory with a fridged wife added into the mix. I would have liked to see more of Anakin struggling not just with the tenants of the Jedi, but also with the the efficacy of the Old Republic as opposed to a rising dictatorial regime (something we see only once in AOTC).
The prequels have the most inhuman dialogue: Anakin: "I... I killed them. I killed them all. And not just the men, but the women, and the children too! They're like ANIMALS!! AND I SLAUGHTERED THEM LIKE ANIMALS!!! I HATE THEM!!!" Padmé, the anti-war activist: "to be angry is to be human." ?????????????
Don't forget the part where Anakin straight up admits he loves the idea of a dictatorship completely seriously and Padme, the democracy advocate, just laughs it off
Lucas wrote some really cringe shit but I actually like this scene, specially how Anakin seems to be seriously furious, sad and like a child throwing a tantrum all at once, which is completely understandable since he was denied of a childhood and is fully experiencing emotion for the first time since he became a Jedi
Odd-Olhos Pendulum Dragão anakin’s line isn’t really the problem, Padme’s response was completely inappropriate and underwhelming. This dude just committed ethnic cleansing and you say “it’s human” as if like it’s just okay? That doesn’t make any sense
George: “please, John, your music in the originals was so good, you’re my only hope” John: “well, I do have this one banger I call ‘Duel of the Fates’” George: “Say no more! Grab that and a couple other new tracks and we can just remix the old music for the rest!”
Even as a kid in the theater it made no sense to me why Jango didn’t just shwack Padme himself. Not only is the dude is covered in armor and weapons, WHY would he want to split commission with another assassin??
A few things that have occurred to me over time about the overarching story of the Prequels: 1) not sure this was intentional, but in context, the Jedi being clueless about the ins and outs of personal relationships and familial emotion is a direct result of their order having become so insular in the pursuit of the 'cosmic' Force. Their highest members literally live on a pedestal and they have no idea what life is like for normal people. 2) I think Palpatine doesn't have clairvoyance, he's just really good at juggling multiple balls at once and adapting on the fly. And unlike the Jedi, he understands people and although he uses them like they're his tools, he understands human nature in a way that the Jedi *never* could. He is a master manipulator and a liar, so even when he tells the truth, it's in pursuit of his own goals. 3) the reason Qui-Gon wasn't on the Jedi Council was because he was an outlier in the order and not rigidly orthodox with his views of the 'living' Force. He understood the importance of familial connection and could converse and connect with ordinary people. It has been stated by John Williams and strongly implied through the music piece 'Duel of the Fates' that if Qui-Gon Jinn had lived to train Anakin, he would have seen to it that Anakin would have returned to his mother sooner and would never have been vulnerable to the Dark Side or Palpatine's influence. There's a lot more that could be said. As clumsily told as they are, the overarching story of the Prequels is definitely better than the films are often given credit for. If the dialogue, directing, acting, and haphazard plotting didn't drag them down, the PT would be as revered by film nerds as much as Star Wars Prequel fans. Edit: can't spell Palpatine's name right lol
All those things you mention are aspects that a good writer & director would have been able to get across to the viewer. Rather than this bland film that relies on special effects & John Williams rather than good storytelling & acting.
I really don't think the Ivory Tower Jedi Council interpretation was intentional, because within the context of the story, they're proven completely right. They correctly call that Anakin is a poor candidate for Jedi training and refuse to train him, only caving when Obi-Wan forces the issue by threatening to train Anakin himself if the Order won't. And the one time, as far as they know, that they compromise on their policy of recruiting toddlers to be repressed warrior monks and allow someone who's actually old enough to say "no" into the Order, he snaps and murders everyone. The rest of the Jedi, meanwhile, all presumably recruited as babies, do not snap and murder everyone, and most seem to be reasonably well-adjusted, if bland and uptight. If anything, the story validates their viewpoint. The way the story is framed, the creepy, insular council of inscrutable, emotionless religious zealots are _the voices of reason._ Also, Lucas openly compared the dialogue to background music and was much more interested in directing the CGI than the actors, several of whom have since said that they were given almost zero direction and didn't always know what their character was doing in a scene, what was going on in the story, what their motivations were or even where to _look._
@@louiemeister9646 Well, for one, seemed like Gunray wanted Padme dead, much of the second movie - once Padme was off Coruscant, she maybe wasn't even a threat to the 'plan'.
People forgiving the prequals because the sequals sucked a little more is like forgiving someone for pissing in your cereal because someone else took a shit on your pancakes. That's just two egregious acts in a row
I think Palpatine, Maul and Grievous would be incredibly interesting if they were exclusively focused on as the main trio of villains because each one slots into a different part of the hierarchy. Grievous is the droid general guy, Maul is some kind of Sith assassin being sent around by Palpatine directly, and Palpatine is the big bad. It would be a lot more satisfying if by the time we get to episode 3, Maul is the one being decapitated by Anakin in front of Palpatine, as we'd actually have some kind of weight attached to the moment by that point from two movies of this character being present. Hell, he could have been the guy to not only kill Qui-Gon, but take Anakin's hand as well. At least that way we'd understand Anakin having some level of internal struggle about whether or not to execute the literally disarmed guy on his knees. Maybe work Maul's subplot about getting robot legs from the clone wars show into the second movie or something so the phantom menace still keeps its whole climax, I dunno
I actually love Count Dooku ! He’s meant to show the flaws of the Jedi Order and he’s to show that HE could be the one who started the war, not the Jedi or Palpatine. He’s a political idealist, but a Dark Jedi who almost abandons his morals but believes he’s doing the wrong things for the right reasons. He saw through the corruption of the Jedi and the Senate and wants to remake the Jedi Order by destroying the Republic
The fight with Yoda was still a stunt double. They just put Christopher Lee’s face on him in post production. But I believe the fight in Episode III was really him.
"Palpatine sends a man, who sends a man, who sends a shapeshifter, who sends a robot, who sends BUGS to kill padme" legit had me rolling
I want to like this but it’s at 69
@@belugaman6772 a thing is not beautiful because it lasts forever, but because we got to experience it at all.
Same
If youre a sith lord pretending to be a politician youd want to have a lot of middle men if youre going to assasinate a senator. If i remember correctly he wasnt discovered so the plan makes sense and it worked.
@@adonizi The only reason Sideous's plans worked was because everyone else in the universe had the intelligence of a small botfly
"then palpatine gets thrown into a pit and dies"
Ah well you see the thing is..
...no-one’s ever truly gone.
@Juan Cortez Muro Just....WHY?!?!
LMAO
That shit was retconned faster than the extended universe
Juan Cortez Muro unrelated to the video or comment but sure whatever?
Harrison Ford threatening to make George Lucas say his own lines at gunpoint is the funniest thing I've ever heard.
And yet he became a household name thanks to George
@@JayJaycubbs Yes but not because of George's lines.
@JayJaycubbs it clearly goes both ways here if the original star wars were stupid eh...
@@BozmundOs can you at least try to learn English before commenting online? Thx
@@axllow3914 nonsequitur at its finest
You didn’t talk about the fact that Darth Maul tried to run over Anakin on Tatooine with his speeder. At that point in the movie, Maul had no idea who he was or his significance, he just wanted hit some random kid with his bike.
He's evil, that's it
makes him relatable
Based darth maul
@@vedantsharma6206 every time i see a kid on the road
I'm guessing he's preoccupied with catching somebody?
"darth maul and obi wan should have had a rivalry through all 3 movies"
clone wars fans: "wwwelllll"
yeah of only this was shown in the movies
Imagine if, with Obi-Wan hanging on for dear life after being Force-pushed by Darth Maul to end their fight, Maul walks away because the war around him is lost. Obi-Wan jumps out of the hole and cradles Qui-Gon's lifeless body in his arms. Now, we have a setup for Obi-Wan's rivalry with Maul through the other two films. Maul killed his mentor, and Obi-Wan wasn't strong enough to kill Maul, and Maul will only become more powerful in the Dark Side. Now, we have something to look forward to, and we're rooted in Obi-Wan's desire to want to fight Maul again. Instead, what we got was George inventing a new villain in the second movie then inventing another new villain in the third movie because he wanted to kill the second new villain early in the third movie despite this second villain showing he's so powerful that he can stand up to Yoda. It just doesn't make sense.
Rebels fans: weeeellllll
Glorified fan fiction.
Max Perez
Amen! 🙌
actor of jarr jarr nearly committed suicide.
didnt deserve the rap
Real shit. And Kelly Marie Tran didn't deserve the bullying she got for TLJ. Even if you despise the character, don't attack the actor/actress.
No shit. When in this video does he badmouth the actor?
EricTheKartoonKing I think he’s just pointing it out.
@@Shanaoh Fair
@@seanoconnor5730 And Jake Lloyd. Man Star Wars fans can be assholes...
I always like to imagine that Palpatine's big secret is actually that he has no fucking clue what's going on, and the whole series is him just faking it until it works.
Elite idea🤣
So im a genius smart than an evil super villain for understanding what was going on in the entirety of the prequels?
Love it. Seems more accurate tbh. Like what are his motivations other than power? He’s such a messy b*tch.
@@pisslord666 why the fuck would he need any other motivations? He gets to be the “KING OF SPAAACE”!
@@JayJaycubbs yeah, he’s messy.
Mfs drag a small child to a planet he's never been to, in a room full of adults he's never met, and have the audacity to say "We sense fear in you"
You say that as if he didn’t want to go to said planet
😂😂😂😂
@@JayJaycubbsdude was 10
@@winter236and apples grow on trees. I stand by my previous comment
@@JayJaycubbsgod fucking damnnnnn. I have seen you under almost every comment for 4 months now. Get a fucking life. These movies are BAD movies. Sorry but your childhood didn’t produce good movies. It’s fine if you like
Them but having the audacity to say they are good is delusional
Yoda in the original trilogy: Little creature, I am heh heh heh.
Yoda in the prequels: Several war crimes I have committed.
Josephi Krakowski LMFAOOOO
Yoda in the Original Trilogy: Wise, mellow and happy Jedi Master
Yoda in the Prequel Trilogy:
*_crippling depression_*
Many legal infractions done i have, slow speak i must, appear proffesional i must
Yoda in the sequels: Suck ass, you do, at doing what I instructed. Shoot lightning, I will
@Josephi Krakowski I subscribed to you just for your name.
"they dont talk about how they FEEL"
Anakin: "I dont like sand"
You sir are wrong!
This just in are the prequels hidden masterpieces? The truth lies in one weird flirtation uttered by Anakin
YOU WERE MY BROTHER ANAKIN, I LOVED YOU!
Sand doesn’t care about your feelings.
MajorFletch, what a deep and dynamic character! Truly a fantastic protagonist!
MajorFletch “I am haunted by the kiss you should never have given me”
Wrong again, sir! (Quietly trying to not cringe)
26:57
In an alternate scene, they were going to have the bugs get on a communicator and hire another assassin.
No, I refuse, they obviously would've hired that assassin beforehand and offscreen.
Stg I saw the cut scene at a film fest one yesr
Who would hire another assassin, to go kill Padame
And that assassin would've sent their r2 unit who would've communicated with a satellite which would have sent a message to another assassin who would've sent jar jar binks sister to go kill padme.
well, that would be in line with the opening where two bigger fish eat smaller fish over the course of five minutes, or less. i though i was having a stroke. "what? didn't i JUST see that?"
The line “What was it about politics that had George so horny” is one I still think about nearly 3 years later.
Star Wars was always about politics. The Empire are basically space nazis. And if you tell how a dictatorship is created than you have to talk about politics, even more. So yeah, I never understood that criticism. The integration of politics is only natural and I never found it to be boring as a child. No child did. They just ignore the lines they don't get.
@@scintilla3957 But they don't think of it as bad... so it's not bad.
@@Ambar42 The issue is that it's quite a lot of the movies.
@@Ambar42 I think the politics was definitely needed but I think I would have shown it in a more engaging action-packed blockbuster way.
Also it should complement the story not really be the main causes of the story or dominate most actions of the story. I think if it was more like that, it would be better, I liked the addition of politics but politics could've been handled a lot better.
@@Ambar42 cosmonaut is criticizing the politics in the prequels because it's executed very poorly. He's not mad it's political
The reason Yoda is so violent during the prequels was because the clone wars is when he picked up his raging ketamine addiction.
@C man Man what the fuck is wrong with you?
@C man Man no like What does your comment have to do with anything? What do you even mean?
@C man Man well calling someone with an opinion a liar, hypocrite, and likes violence is not only stupid but fucking psychotic. This person hadn't done anything and you just came out here with no apparent reason, calling this guy shit. Fuck off man
@C man Man the commenter was saying the prequels were good, and I love the prequels what the fuck are you on about like dude we have the same opinions, fuck off. And what the fuck does Anita have to with anything, you autistic fuck!
@C man Man oh yeah? You probably think Luke drinking green milk is a valid criticism.
I DIED DURING HIS “DOOKU HIRES JANGO WHO HIRES...” I CAN’T HAHAHAHA
I never even thought about that until now. So little makes sense in those movies my brain just gets foggy and I don't think about it but I still get confused.
Angus Roth 26:23 if anyone is looking for it :)
*🅱 U T H E D O E S N ' T W A N N A D O I T H I M S E L F*
Fr
PALPATINE
SENDS A MAN
WHO SENDS A *MAN*
WHO SENDS A *SHAPESHIFTER*
WHO SENDS A *ROBOT*
WHO SENDS *B U G S*
*T O G O K I L L P A D M E*
"Please sir can I have some movie" had me dying
Esactly
I do kinda respect the audacity of these movies. It was like George wanted to write a Shakespearean tragedy, worked backwards from the Darth Vader concept, and tripped every step of the way. And there is a good story buried somewhere in these movies, there was just nobody to tell George "no."
Which is an interesting comment since apparently George was constantly accepting the cast's questions and observations
That's how Windu ended up having a purple saber and Yoda does a saber toss
@@Sukaiba69 those are cool, but they’re just small, inconsequential details in the grand scheme of things. It’s the writing overall that needs work
And it could have been such a Shakespearean like story for Anakin to turn to the dark side.
But unfortunately that story is buried under so much bullshit. It’s too dense and too bloated to actually focus on Anakin.
@@Sukaiba69a purple lightsaber and a saber toss does not change the plot, dialogue, and acting
Apparently George had actually been reaching out to other directors like Steven Spielberg, but none of them wanted to work on the films in fear of damaging the franchises' legacy. He was basically left to manage almost all creative elements of the Prequels, and so his weaknesses (dialogue, etc) were far more prevalent than they ever were in the Original Trilogy.
Democratically elected king of space is probably the greatest title anyone has ever achieved
Second only to democratically elected king of Germany :P
It's the best title that can almost fit on a business card.
Palpatine: So remember to vote Palpatine in the next election that will never happen. Because I said so.
Trump may unironically hold that title soon lol
I love democracy
George Lucas: The Phantom Menace is more targeted towards kids...
Also George Lucas:
"The taxation of trade routes to outlying star systems"
6 year old me: ah yes big words
To be more specific he says it’s a movie for 12 year olds. Idk about everyone else but but I think most middle schoolers are probably familiar with the trade routes.
the taxation of trade routes is a major concern among children
Well it’s not a major concern of the movie either. They briefly talk about it at the start of the opening crawl and palpatine mentions it again on time during the senate meeting. Most of the movie is focused on the invasion of naboo itself not why the political motivations behind it. Even Lucas himself said it wasn’t important when interviewed.
@@ejn8982 nobody cares aboot an unimportant invasion. The taxation of trade routes is what matters
True if Disney really wants to capitalize off of Star Wars that’s what they should be making a trilogy about
All those people hired to kill Padme and in the end it was a broken heart that killed her.
Not exactly apparently Padme dies through a combination of Anakin, choking her into unconsciousness, and Palpatine, apparently taking her life force to give to Anakin on Mustafar now correct me if I’m wrong because I’m not fully integrated into all of the Star Wars lore but after pulling from all sorts of different sources, about this moment, that I have memories of. It seems like the most likely scenario based on what I remember
@@jontron1097 Except the movie does not convey that at all it's just "she lost the will"
37:46
"You're so, beautiful"
"It's only because I'm so in love"
"No [HA!], its because I'm so in love with you"
.....what?
I don't remember the diologue being that bad
I forgot that "I'd much rather dream about Padme" is a real line that really came out of Darth Vader's mouth and nobody can do anything about it.
Oh my god, I can’t imagine him saying that in the original trilogy. Dear lord
Conrad Kujur Right? No one in these movies act like real people with emotions. It isn’t that they are Jedi, or that they’re from space, it’s that the dialogue is really bad and the actors weren’t told how to delivery these lines in an believable way. That’s a failure of direction
My childhood has been eviscerated. And all I could do was watch helplessly.
And the saddest thing is that i don't have problems with the story but that dialogue...
Also, remember awful George Lucas dialogue since A New Hope.
You see Obiwan's development through the prequels, and going back to his fight against Vader in A New Hope is very clunky:
*"Only a Master of Evil Darth"* .
Return of The Jedi:
*"From a certain point of View"* .
I will not say anything about the sequel trilogy because George himself said that there is no episode VII. The sequels aren't canon and simply Disney's greed.
"Is there any significance to the kashyyyk scenes?"
They wanted to cut it but Ki adi mundi was insistent about the droid attack on the wookies.
Maybe George Lucas getting his wish of wookies instead of ewoks in a battle?
It’s a system we can’t afford to lose
We get cool as fuck battles!
Yes it is,Yoda leves
@@Yami1300 we don't need to see what Yoda was doing, we only needed to hear him leaving Coruscant, and him surviving Order 66...
“I hate X and I get uncomfortable when people disagree with me.”
Probably one of the most relatable, human things I’ve ever heard
That isn’t something you should be proud to admit out loud.
Everyone relates to that in some capacity.
@@johnny.V03 you are really creepy
@@johnrambo5795 It’s creepy to not act butthurt over someone liking a SW film?
@johnny.V03 he made a bit out of it, like a joke, it's funnY, do you call the cops at every party you go to or something??
a BIG issue with these movies is that george also wanted to expand mediums, comic books, tv shows, etc. but then they made so many new things it was hard to keep track and then ALL OF IT WAS FAKE I GUESS
Kinda like another very popular movie series owned by disney
@@Frazier16 marvel?
@@Me-wx1mt No, rarely do they expect you to buy comic books aside from Disney + shows
@@onalennamoroeng8778 ... I'm talking about during the prequels... legends?
If you’re talking about most of that shit being Legends now I feel like it really doesn’t matter since The Clone Wars is all you really need and is still cannon and shit like the Genndy Tartakovsky animation was already decanonized by that show. Also doesn’t help that there was a live action show on Coruscant that would seemingly explain more stuff and had like 80 episodes planned out but then they just never made it lol. Regardless, it still baffles me that Lucas would make a trilogy that would cryptically allude to shit like “Cypher Diaz” and expected anybody to have a reaction other than annoyance and confusion.
Remember when Count Dooku straight up told Obi Wan that there was a Sith Lord operating in the senate, and manipulating the jedi?
Remember when Obi Wan was basically like "Ok Boomer"?
Probably my favourite scene in Star Wars.
@Sam Lim yeah but still it's not a good excuse for them being idiots I like how they ignore emotions which led to Anakin's fall but there are sometimes these jedi council feel like a moron clan
@@a.f9234 It kind of works in hindsight, like the way TLJ portrayed it, but when you have actors performing a script like this it just comes across as stupidity rather than arrogance.
Yggdrasil TLJ was even worse
@@professorsuge6567 Whether it is or not is a seperate discussion, I just wrote that the exploration of the jedi being flawed worked better in that movie and made me rethink the prequels.
“Palpatine getting captured off screen is bad”
JJ Abrams: *Well how about Palpatine coming back to life off screen*
Void it is? Hm maybe even worse than offscreen
Having a whole war between AOTC and ROTS is just as bad
Void what are you talking about
@@Daniel-gp6sd Bruh what the fuck are you smoking?!
There was a clear time skip between Episode 2 and Episode 3 and the former even ends with the start of the Clone Wars.
How in the hell is that "just as bad" as Palpatine comning back to life off screen between Episode 6 and Episode 9?
@@_Nigguel_ the message that palpatine came back was in a fortnite live event
it's kinda funny to go into the recent comments just to see people absolutely losing their minds over random stuff
Sorting by new is always a trip
so true
You just described all the Internet in one sentence 👍
Best character arc
I: Annoying kid
II: Obnoxious teenager
III: Psychopath Sith Lord
VI: egg
@@animegamingnerd YES
II.5: *The best one*
@@animegamingnerd Yes, but a MaAaAaAaAGICAL school shooter. With a laser sword.
Kylo Ren:
VII. Emo kid.
VIII. Still emo kid.
IX. Emo kid for the last time.
Anakin: Master Yoda I've had a premonition of a loved one dying and I'm really worried what should I do?
Yoda: lmao just stop loving them so much
C pretty sure was only like 850 at the time but i agree
*stop loving them so much, you should LMAO
I mean that's the point of the scene. He gives words of wisdom but gives no solace to a man who thinks he'll lose everything.
Yes, Please dont even try explaining it prequel haters are dumb it's sad
@@noahvoss7320 I wouldn't say that, it's not to their fault that they dislike three fantastic films. They just don't like them for one reason or another and that's perfectly fine.
The section about Jar Jar is so true. Even in Red Letter Media’s video on Phantom Menace there’s a really funny scene where he asks people to name personality traits of the main characters and they couldn’t do it for the episode 1 characters. The only one I could actually do that for in the prequels was Jar Jar.
Funnily enough, you _can_ do it for Anakin, but not Padmé much 😂
Even the most vicious prequel haters love to ignore how bland she was in Ep. 1
Also, Plinkett is not a good reference. The guy makes such a shit argument
@@harrambou9468 everyone was bland in episode 1 except obi wan he was kinda badass with his fight with maul
I mean, I can name a personality trait for nearly all the characters
@@knightmare5097 So can anyone if they really reach hard enough but "stoic" "boring" or "serious" aren't great especially if most of the characters are like that.
Luke: "Oh my god Obi-Wan, you had the information that could've saved the galaxy! why didn't you use it?!" Obi-Wan: "I forgor 💀"
What information exactly did he have????
@@tomgu2285 That the clones were being messed with, you know, with that order 66 being implanted in their brains...
@@tomgu2285 That the clones and the bad guys are connected.
During the filming of Attack of The Clones, Natalie Portman and Hayden Christensen, in their scenes together, played a prank on George Lucas by pretending they had never acted before.
Lucas loved the prank so much, he ended up using most of the footage in the final cut.
Stan 😂😂😂
I wonder if anyone actually thinks this isn’t a joke 😂
soldier tf2 I wont lie, I was ready to believe it considering the visual evidence we got from the movie haha (not even their faults, its just the direction)
XDD
soldier tf2 it makes so much sense that at first I thought it wasn’t a joke
"Nobody can kill a jedi" - comin from a kid who winds up killing the most jedi ever. Lol hella subtle
TheycallmeRisky Another one is in the clone wars I believe there’s a scene of anakins Padawan asking him if he would be willing to teach a class of children Jedi I forgot what you call them but Anakin says I would probably kill them
No one cares
mrmr2910 you seem like the nicest guy in the world
Thanks
Your welcome
Sequel haters: I don’t like the sequels because they don’t have original ideas!
Yeah, Because Star Wars has never been a pastiche of anything.
The prequels aren't even original. They're original by Star Wars standards but that's not saying that much.
The sequel trilogy story just sucks, dude. I’m sorry, but with the prequel trilogy you can make sense of (at least) most of it but the sequel trilogy makes no damn sense and it’s so self-important it’s frustrating
@@harrambou9468 "but the sequel trilogy makes no damn sense and it’s so self-important it’s frustrating" bitch you just described the prequels
Not of itself. Being a pastiche of tropes and other movies is something (Tarantino does it) but redoing your own movie (A New Hope) and calling it a new one (Force Awakens) is ridiculous and a complete waste of time and money. Would you have liked if Empire Strikes back had been a remake of A New Hope?
@@ngs2683 I understand your point and I myself didn't love Force Awakens and I did think it was too derivative at times but I forgave it because it needed to reel general Audiences back into Star Wars. Remember that this was the first Star Wars film in 10 years and the last 3 were Despised to no end, so they had to reel the Audience back in with something safe and familiar before they could really start exploring new themes and ideas.
Last Jedi was also quite Derivative of ESBs story structure but also tries to explore new ideas and themes as well as subvert the Audiences expectations and even though it didn't do it perfectly and I do think that the ideas could've been polished, it's really trying to do something new.
Rise of Skywalker... no that movie's just terrible.
remember when Star Wars fans ruined a kids life because they hated the phantom menace THAT much? Good times.
Over a fucking space wizard movie
I feel so freaking horrible for him
what happened
They really did ruin the little dude's life I saw a youtube video it's way too far
It's the fault of the people that bullied him. No one forced them to be horrible people. Star Wars didn't ruin it. The people did. Perhaps it did ruin his acting career but that's it
“You can’t kill a jedi that’s impossible”
Goes on to kill the most jedi out of anyone in the universe
* *_laughs in old Sith Empire_* *
@@xxvaltielxx1789 Even in the Old Sith Empire it's not very likely that one single person killed as many Jedi single-handedly as Vader ever did.
Lol! I hope you're not saying that, like it's a Plot-Hole. It's excellent ironic foreshadowing :)
@@JeanneDGames that's why i wrote what i wrote, i was talking about the whole thing xD
Technically he only killed younglings on screen. He never killed an adult Jedi.
When I first watched Attack of the Clones I thought Jango's dart caused ludicrous dehydration.
Dude same
I just thought she died an turned into a zombie
“Hmmm... a Kamino... sucky dart.”
Wait i thought thats what actually happened why did her face go all weird
@@dr.butafer3850 that is her actual face but she is a shape shifter so she looked like a human but when she died she turns back to an alien.
The idea of midichlorians is just so goofy to me. You don't need to explain supernatural. In the five night's at freddy's franchise, the creator tried to provide a scientific explanation to why the robots are possessed. Nobody needs that.
That's a very good comparison. And just like midichlorians, remnant (the fnaf explanation) removes a lot of interest in the supernatrual. Boiling shit like that down to simple science is boring as hell.
"You don't need science or evolutionary theories to explain how the Earth and life on it was formed. We all know that it was created in 7 days by some invisible deity only 6000 years ago. You don't need to explain supernatural"
@@JayJaycubbs i am talking about STAR WARS lmao
@@fedredora r/whoooooosh
@@JayJaycubbsno, that's not a wooosh, you sounded like you were genuibly comparing the two
To be fair, it makes some sense that Palpatine would have a long chain of people in order to have Padme killed so that he can cover his tracks and seem innocent and have an alibi.
However, that still doesn’t mean that Marcus’ explanation of Palpatine’s plan isn’t the funniest fricking thing on the internet.
Imagine if the bugs just placed a tiny jar of ticks to give her Space Lyme Disease
Except Palpatine never wanted Padme dead in this movie, so his point is pretty nonsensical
Wdym 'makes some sense'? You want as many degrees of separation as possible.
@@JayJaycubbs right Neut Gunray wanted “her head on [his] desk”. He was behind the assassination attempts, not Palpatine. Palpatine just took advantage of the situation to promote his own agenda, that’s what makes him truly formidable. It’s not that he knows everything that’s going to happen before it happens, it’s that he’s able to innovate and adapt to any situation.
@@Benjahmin1138 it’s a combination of both. Palpatine used the failed assassination attempt as an opportunity to keep Padme away from voting against an army by sending her to Naboo, as well as to foster a relationship between her and Anakin. Which he uses to further his goal in RotS.
But he is very strong with the force and he can see visions to an extent. Which he mentions numerous times in the original trilogy, so that helped him too
Anikin: *runs down a hallway*
John Williams: 🔥
well that was as he was about to enter the scene of windu and palpatine fighting so the music is building you up to prepare was is about to occur.
@@arkanamaster4961 exactly this scene is completely taken out of context by cosmonaut scum to try to misrepresent the movie
Anikin?
@@ejn8982 the scene was not misconstrued. He was complimenting the music.
@@ejn8982 he was complimenting the music lmao
This is the best defense of Jar Jar I've ever heard.
Chris Cueva I’ve always thought Jar Jar made the first two episodes watchable. Everything was so boring except the fights.
Jar Jar's the key to all this
Darth Jar Jar was the best defense, because that unironically turned people around on his character concept and made people wish he was featured more in the trilogy
That, and the fact that Ahmed Best, the guy who played Jar Jar, was really devastated by the amount of hate against Jar Jar that he almost killed himself. What's worse is that had he done so, some people would've been happy.
Chris Cueva it’s the only actual defense of him I’ve ever heard
I have watched attack of the clones so many times in my life and I could not tell you one thing that happens in that movie. I get like brain fog everytime it comes on and just sit there watching it without grasping anything of what im watching
It does have few redeeming qualities: Jango Fett, kamino, and the end battle on Genosis
@@ryanm666 probably worse than TFM
It sounds like your getting high without the drugs.
@@Jamie_skywalker06TPM phantom not fantom
You use a bong or a pipe?
I wish so badly they used the shape shifter thing to frame someone or something. I love when cool little details are added for literally no reason and they add nothing but confusion to the plot. Great story telling that is
"He didn't even try."
I mean do or do not, there is no try.
And it's pretty clear that he only fought him to see how strong Palpatine truly was as a sith lord. Once he got a taste, he realized there wasn't much chance.
@@vaevictus4637 so basically yoda went out like a bitch
fair enough
Even if Yoda won the fight, it wouldn't have changed anything. The Jedi were done for and as Palpatine said, Vader would be more powerful than either of them. That's why it was useless for Yoda to even try, Palpatine already won in the grand scheme of things before the fight even started. It's the Sith way for the apprentice to kill the Master, and I'm sure Palpatine was expecting that. As Anakin said to Padme he could overthrow them. I imagine he went into exile because he would have been easily killed by clone troopers as well as Vader who hunted down the remaining Jedi.
@@BrickNGames there's no way for anakin to have survived being burned on mustafar without sidious' help. that fight was really important
“There are heroes on both sides” makes sense because the match has been going on for a bit and both sides have enough battle points.
@Husky Lover What do you mean?
@@crocs4304
In TF2, there's a map called High Tower. While technically a payload map, the community considers it a team death match where moving the bomb cart is discouraged unless both teams agree to end the match. The result is a bunch of headless chickens running around hosting dance parties, sniper/spy duels, and that one asshole running a gunslinger in an active attempt to ruin the fun.
In essence, the Clone Wars are High Tower. Technically, there's an end goal. However, there's a secret arbitrary agreement set by a third party that prevents anyone from actually winning. As a result, the Clone Wars are a series of expensive battles, hostage situations that can't involve any important people, and some red asshole actively trying to wrest away control of the war.
Well the Clone Wars was largely fought on objectives.
I don't know if Sidious limiting the construction of devastating new CIS droids is canon anymore.
But a lot of the battles make sense on why they happened. Utapau, Geonosis, Kamino, Kashyyyk you name them.
David Hong dude I’m pretty sure they mean battlefront 2
I think the phantom menace is decent attack of the clones is bad and revenge of the sith is the best by a lot
The "Sends X to kill Padme" bit had me dying.
Even as a child I knew that these three films weren't very good. Why? Because I always skipped forwards to the action scenes with the cool fight choreography and amazing music.
I only did this with very few movies.
Also realizing the entire chain of handing the job to kill Padme to someone/something else had me in stitches.
That sounds like something any kid would do lol.
Normally this would be a meme, but I’m being 100% honest when I say LEGO Star Wars conveyed the plot of the phantom menace better than the movie did
What you just said is a big-brained fact.
Playittilitshot and it did so with absolutely no dialogue
Playittilitshot Huh? The plot was portrayed perfectly fine.
@@bing2879 except for the politics which comprise of at least half of the prequels
Wesley yes, but those politics are part of the fucking plot
"... and then Anikan throws him down a hole and he dies."
Well, yes, but actually, no.
brant daughtry no one’s ever really gone
Palpatine saw that coming too, it was all according to his Grand Master Scheme TM
Disney be like a conclusion to a good villain, lets fuck it up
@@cmigbear how can someone never be gone if god doesn't exist? if someone's still here in spirit even though god not real?
Oh wait memories and shit nevermind
@@magmonic That also seems to be their policy on great heroes.
i think its so funny how both the final movie of the prequel and sequel trilogy start with a universe altering event that involves palpatine and happens off screen for some reason
Watching Anakin and Padme flirt makes me wanna peel my skin off
Nobody hates Star Wars more than Star Wars fans.
I never have been so offended by something that I 100% agree with
Facts
Because people who aren't fans could care less about it.
you stole this comment from "why it sucks return of the jedi" also by cosmonaut variety hour
Well... yeah. Why would someone who has never watched Star Wars hate Star Wars?
I almost died with the “Palpatine sends a man, that sends a man, that...”
Soon after TPM Gunray was so pissed with Padme he asked Sidious if he could kill Padme, Sidious pinned that for 10 years later.
So Gunray asked Palpatine to kill Padme but he sends Dooku who sends a man, who sends a shape shifter, who sends a robot, who sends bug, TO GO KILL PADME!!!
@@evanlight2550 The bugs send poison, and the poison sends chemicals TO GO KILL PADME!!!
Me too
DID YOU JUST ASSUME THEIR GENDERS YOU SHITLORD?!?
A big reason people like the prequels and then turn around and call the sequels even worse, even though they're the same, is because they use well-established characters. While the sequels and prequels both struggle with many of the same elements, the prequels already have an advantage because the audience is watching these like, "Look, that's the guy I know. Look, that's the guy I know. Look, that's the guy I know."
3:24 “What kills me is when people say these movies are good and these aren’t.”
I wanna be someone who can respect any opinion, but god damn, you just spoke my mind!
he specifically picked bad scene from prequels and the best from sequels, pick Luke drinking blue milk or any Rey scene, or you can also pick Luke kissing Leia in OT, what is that about, it's clear manipulation
@@pizzaquatroformagi868 The only manipulation being done here is your brain rationalizing these awful movies into being good somehow.
@@MosheGames so prequels are worse than sequels in your opinion, failed copy of OT trilogy with cameos and owerpowered characters that have no character? Enlighten me sir
Literally bro
Have you watched the prequels in recent years? Have you ever paid attention to character development, stakes, world-building, choreography, or consistency while watching these movies?
If you did, you would clearly see, why the prequels are superior to the sequels in every aspect other than broad visuals. The prequels tell an actual story with a clear throughline and thought put into it while heavily expanding on the OT without ever conflicting with it. The sequels achieve the exact opposite.
Poor Hayden Christiansen. He's not a bad actor, but I feel like these movies wrecked his career and it wasn't his fault. I mean he's not a genius, but he's perfectly serviceable. The script did him dirty.
He's a fine actor indeed. Watch Shattered Glass about the journalist who made up stories for a hoity-toityn Washington magazine. Hayden Christensen plays the main role and does so very well. It's a shame movies like Shattered Glass get ignored while trash, junk food movies are celebrated and marketed throughout the world, watched, analysed and discussed in thousands of videos and millions of crappy blog posts masquerading as news articles.
If Shattered Glass was as well known as Star Wars, Hayden Christiansen's career would have skyrocketed. Instead, it plummeted.
Glad he’s getting praise now
"Democratically-elected King of Space" is probably the most hilarious way to describe Palpatine's origin as Galactic Emperor.
Daniel Reynolds I mean wouldn’t that actually be a great autocracy. •~•
@@jose13neo you can do this. Just tap on the name. Or if it's the original commenter, the you don't have to type their name.
Jogu Gaga what?
And then he dies...only to somehow secretly manipulate Leia and Han's son to take over some new invading force and train his granddaughter to be powerful enough to be a new vessel...yeah...why?
“Yoda’s number one solution is to kill the bad guys. He never at one point tries to negotiate”
Well,
The negotiations were short.
Yes thats the point. Yoda is violating the Jedi code - the Jedi have become corrupt. Its subtext but there if you pay attention
@@darkthorpocomicknight7891 no I didn’t mean that I just said it as a joke.
OOH THE NEGOTIATOR
Anakin: "That was before the aggressive negotiations "
Padme: "aggressive negotiations?"
Anakin: "negotiations with a lightsaber"
@@darkthorpocomicknight7891 Stop. That is not subtext. Its bad writing and selling video games.
The plot of The Phantom Menace was more accurately conveyed to me through Weird Al’s The Saga Begins than the movie itself
17:58 It took me the entire 10 seconds of this clip to realise it wasn't actually a screenshot and those characters were actually stood absolutely stock still in an entirely static shot. God damn it who does that?!
I can't unsee it.
They’re discussing important information for where they will be heading to after their ship got damaged.
Of course they’re not gonna do the Harlem Shake like you would expect 😂
@@JayJaycubbsthat's not the point. The point is the combination of static standing people combined with a static shot. The people don't have to dance but the camera work could be better
@@BlindGardener still a really stupid thing to complain about. The cameras not moving around is a nitpick that doesn’t change the film’s quality
@@JayJaycubbsyou do realize film is a VISUAL MEDIUM, right? So, actually yes, the cinematography is incredibly important to make movie engaging to watch.
“May I have some movie?!”
Best quote ever!
Chase1.9 Gaming “PLEASE SIR, MAY I HAVE SOME MOVIE?!?!?!” Freaking hilarious
Alexander Nguyen Yep!!!!!!
I almost died when you described the "chain of people who want to kill Padme" :D Brilliant stuff
In regards to Episode 1 I think Darth Maul was the biggest positive to come out of not just the movie but the prequels as a whole he had an onscreen presence and he had little lines but that added to the mystique and the way he carried himself with this silent powerful presence
Too bad he is of little significance/characterization within the context of the film itself.
"Characters coming up with a plan"
"Characters coming up with a plan"
"CHARACTERS COMING UP WITH A PLAN!"
*"CHARACTERS COMING UP WITH A PLAN!!"*
*"C H A R A C T E R S C O M I N G U P W I T H A P L A N ! ! !"*
A godamn plan?
A */plan/*
Inappropriate Flirting
But did you talk that characters coming up with a plan?
I feel like Dutch Van der Linde would love Phantom Menace
The part when everyone was lazy to kill padme killed me
BUT HE DOESN'T WANNA DO IT HIMSELF!
L1tterly a Nobody I’ve never laughed that hard in my entire life
Palpatine didn't want Padme dead here. He wanted her to feel threatened so she could leave Coruscant and allow him to come into power without opposition as she was against the clone army. So, why would he want someone important like Jango or Dooku to try and assassinate her themselves? They would likely succeed or end up dying which at least increases the likelihood of his plan failing. Also, how would the Changer girl be able to assassinate Padme without the droid or the bugs? She wouldn't be able to just sneak in as the Jedi were guarding her.
@@donaldjgumpofficial5754 Why would they need to sneak in when there's a huge window made of glass(because Obi-won can jump through it) with the blinds open. Also, what good does it do to make assumptions that the movie doesn't give us? You might as well tell me an invisible dragon made of chocolate is the secret puppetmaster behind Palpatine, because the movie doesn't tell us that either but it's just as plausible.
@@donaldjgumpofficial5754 Also, I'd like to point out that killing her would *also* negate her as opposition against the clone army. Since apparently they can just put Jarjar there in her absence and he votes in favor of it.
I feel that my opinion on these movies became way better after I saw the clone wars show. It doesnt change the problems with these movies but it gives all the context that these movies missed and gives the characters all the development the movies didn't
😅😅😊😮😮😢
Completely agree!! Clone wars made me REALLY enjoy the prequels and I used to dislike them
I think that's fair to an extent, but ultimately the movies need to hold up on their own. If you have a movie trilogy, you should be able to understand it just by watching the movies in it. You can't introduce someone to the movies and expect them to watch an entire tv show at the same time to understand it. It's like when people excuse bad film adaptations not explaining important elements of the plot properly because "it's explained in the books". The movie should be able to function on its own. If these films don't make sense without watching the TV show, they failed.
@@ClaraFinnthankfully these movies make perfect sense on their own. It’s just a matter of paying attention instead of ignoring blatant information to make some sort of false narrative that nobody in their right mind would agree with
@JayJaycubbs
Found the prequel fan boy, it's okay to like bad movies. I like rots but they're not good movies
I always thought Palpatine's plan in AOTC (and TPM) made sense. In TPM, he orchestrates the blockade to become Chancellor.
In AOTC, he does the assassination attempt to 1.) Make the separatists look violent to pressure the military creation and 2.) Get Anakin to be Padme's bodyguard so they can get close and fall in love and get Anakin to turn to the dark side
I’ll have to rewatch AOTC but I thought the assassination attempt to mainly prevent Padme from voting against the army and Anakin being her bodyguard was just a coincidence
@@kingawesome5219 Of course the "intent" was to prevent her voting against (or more importantly, making the speech against) the army but it was really all part of Palpatine's scheming.
What if one of the assassins killed Padme? Jango Fett even says the guy that hired him is getting impatient because Padme isn't dead yet.
I don’t think the padme thing was originally part of the overall plan
He literally throws her into a pit of Pokémon and handcuffed to a pole. Is he trying to save her or not?
Hot take: John Williams’ musical score in Revenge of the Sith is the best score in any Star Wars movie.
But, Empire tho... That movie introduced the Imperial March, let's not forget.
@@CosmosWater ok but binary sunset in the new hope
Its not that hot of a take, the soundtrack slaps hard
@@CosmosWater That's why it's a hot take! Imo his score in Revenge of the Sith improves the movie a lot. While Empire is so good even without the iconic Imperial March.
Truth
Is it bad these movies make more sense in the LEGO games?
nope, The first time I got throught phantom menace was as a lego star wars game
Because they are made to be more simple for little kids, or dumbasses like you.
Andrewoid My guy your profile pic is LEGO.
@@nickv.3573 these movies suck cry
@@darendavison9608 what
4:13-The Phantom Menace
19:08-Attack Of The Clones
32:54-Revenge Of The Sith
My father said that when he watched episode 2 in the theater when it came out, when jar jar showed up in the first scene people got up and walked out
Oddly enough in Ep. 2 he actually didn’t do anything but keep everything wholesome 😂 in Ep. 1 he was too fuckin much but in Ep2 he’s not so bad (not even just bc of less screen time)
@@harrambou9468 I like how jar jar was supposed to be funny but you could never understand what he was saying
@@Pwilliams4000 and not giving proper subtitles helped that either
That isn't true. Don't believe everything people tell you.
@@creativeself7147 you were there at the movies that day with him huh? 🤣
"I HATE YOU!" is one of the most memed lines in the history of Star Wars but it's also one of the only lines in all 3 movies that has believable emotion behind it.
I also love Obi-Wans lines in that scene
@@neonwallacewells7818 Agreed
Yeah, but at that point it's a useless line considering the fight gets absolutely ridiculous to the point of laughter when they fall from some tower and stand in droids flowing through some lava river or whatever, the I hate you line could've worked in any other way
I totally disagree, it comes of as comically terrible.
@@zenv9180 And,swinging on fucking lines.I watched with my brother recently and we got so bored that we were waiting for it to end.
“Gets thrown in a hole and dies”
Not so fast, it was all part of his plan
Sadly, you might actually be right.
Holy fuck you’re so right
I just realized that nobody that gets thrown into a hole dies in Star Wars. Darth Maul? Came back (Clone Wars + Rebels). Palpatine? Is coming back (Episode 9). Luke (Empire)? Gets saved by the Falcon(Leia, Chewie etc.). Luke, again (Rancor, Episode 6)? Survives. Boba Fett (Sarlacc Pit)? He survived in Legends and might have survived in canon.
It is ridiculous.
If a character falls into a hole, they're basically 100% still alive.
@@gokbay3057 So you're just telling me that Han...
My biggest problem with the prequels is the damn lightsaber overload. I’m surprised George didn’t edit Tarkin having a lightsaber in A New Hope.
I rather Episode IV fighting than any of the prequel ones
@@HitlerGaymes123-_- imagine if every single duel was like Episode 4… even throughout the clones wars and order 66 imagine Anakin slaying all the Jedi in the temple by standing 10 feet away and poking at them like your holding a fucking breadstick.
Most smart prequels hater:
@@noobhabs5884 No.
@@monghanclan2330 So you claim to be smarter huh?
Alright lets see if you can solve this then:
What's 1+2???
You completely dropped the ball on your “Why is Anikan killing Dooku seen as evil?” It was seen as evil because Dooku had his hands cut off and was no longer a threat. Meaning Anikan essentially executed a surrendering prisoner, which is a war crime I believe.
Jango Fett was disarmed and his jetpack wasn’t working, so he was an unarmed prisoner who was happily decapitated by the Jedi
@@goldfilm269Jango was shooting at Windu constantly. That’s hardly him being “unarmed” lol
@@JayJaycubbs Dooku was attacking Anakin and Obi Wan with a lightsaber and the force, up UNTIL he got unarmed. Jango was attacking Windu with a blaster UNTIL he got unarmed. They were both disarmed, then murdered when they didn't need to be. lol
@@JayJaycubbs yeah thats just completely wrong lol jango got his shit cut of before getting decapitated
@@charliedean166 His blaster yes. His rockets and flamethrower? Absolutely not. Try reading before typing first lmao
You forgot how in Star Wars: Attack of the Clones, Count Dooku literally EXPLAINS to Obi-Wan who Darth Sidious is and that he created both the armies, which Obi-Wan just doesn’t believe and ignores
Makes sense
@@totallyanonymousbish9599 Really easy to cover up plotholes with tens of hours of cartoons 10+ years later.
@@snake3516 he could have still told the Jedi counsel or launched some kind of investigation just to be sure, in real life if a politician claims he knows that another politician is doing something wrong then the government always launches an investigation even if they think the accusations are false I mean it’s the equivalent of a member of the Taliban claiming to work with joe Biden and nobody doing anything about it
@@vivalleTFT word. People really forget that they didn’t exist when the prequels came out and how much plot holes got fixed after they got created in the first place
@@brycelinnarz9387 But he did... he tells Windu and Yoda in his last scene of the film
“Palpatine sends a man, who sends a man, who sends a shapeshifter, who sends a robot, who sends bugs, to go kill Padmé”
gets me every time😂😂😂
Yes 😂
I gets how he doesn't understand the movie
"Secretly genius these prequels are. Many original ideas these movies have."
"The prequels, while suffering from flaws, were most definitely Star Wars stories."
**SHUT, UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!**
@@TheBrickGuy7939 I mean they are better than the sequels in every way except for some of the dialogue and jokes
@@saitamaonepunch4140 I see some flaws in them but at the same time they have very enjoyable scenes and are really creative and don't forget the utterly cool vehicles.
funnily enough one of the first things i noticed on a rewatch is how inconsistent the scoring in the phantom menace is. when it’s there it’s great but it’s definitely absent in some weird spots (the first half of the podracing scene) apparently not even the music can be wholly good lol
26:25-26:57: plus if you really really want to be an arse and consider the Lego Skywalker saga video game's interpretation canon, then the bugs don't want to kill Padme themselves, so then they ask an anvil to go kill Padme but the anvil doesn't want to do it itself, so it asks gravity to go kill Padme.
So, in short gravity was the curpit behind Padme’s assassination attempt.
"palatine gets kidnapped offscreen"
JJ Abrams: *literally resurrects Palpatine offscreen*
I like how the explanation for Palpatine returning is just " he somehow returned " and nothing else it's really hilarious
@Joseph Tacitus
To be fair, in canon, Anakin spent at least an hour on Mustafar without working lungs.
If we're taking the old EU into account, Darth Sion was literally chunks of gristle and bone fragments held together with hate.
@@a.f9234 Yeah as soon as that popped on screen I was like, "well there goes that movie"
@Joseph Tacitus
I didn't say it was "too much". Since Palpatine already managed a few dozen resurrections in the Old EU, this is par for the course.
That said, how the Force works has always been ill-defined at best. The first two movies made it seem as if Force users were simply space warrior monks who had some minor telepathy and limited precognition powers, with stronger users capable of telekinesis. The third movie implies that really strong, really evil users could shoot lightning, but that was more or less shown to be extremely rare and notable when it did occur.
The Prequel trilogy starts really straining suspension of disbelief. Suddenly, the Force makes people jump good and have stamina on par with Olympic athletes (except when they don't). People can see important future events and can feel the Force guiding them towards that event (except when they don't). The Force can be used to create life (except when it can't).
@@a.f9234 No, he also said "the dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural" and a resistance member says "secrets only the Sith knew". There you have it, JJ's explaination
It’d be funny if obi wan missed the droid when he jumped out the window
Kkid K 😂😂😂
He'd be Obi Gone 😉
He’d be falling for a long time since he is over 2000 levels above Coruscant’s surface.
“I hate falling”
Chinua Alibatya AAYYYYYY
What bother me is that why didn't anyone told George that his dialogue for The Prequel trilogy was bad, before shooting, and why can't George not see that his dialogue is garbage
39:02 I'm so glad you point this out.
Count Dooku gets a lot of praise from the fanbase. But to me his character just seems like a lesser version of Palpatine. Maul actually felt more like a real threat. And since he killed Qui Gon, there could have been some good character defining scenes with him and Obi Wan.
The reason he gets so much praise is mostly the extended universe and the clone wars where other writers actually did interesting things with him. None of the stuff that people like about him is actually in the movies themselves. Same with Grievous.
That's total bullshit. Fans like him because unlike most of the other villains in the series, Dooku had a more complex goal that isn't "take over the galaxy for personal gain" like Palpatine. He was dissatisfied with the Jedi and how corrupt and dogmatic they had become, as well as the Republic as a whole since they weren't helping all those in need. Hence why the Separatist movement started because a lot of systems wanted a change in leadership and how the galaxy should operate for the good of everyone, and Dooku became a major figurehead for that movement because he wanted to cleanse and rebuild the Republic as well as rebuild the Jedi Order since they were blinded by the obvious snake in the room, being Sidious.
This is all established in Episode 2 with his talk with Obi-Wan, stating that even Qui-Gon was wise enough to see just how bloated the Jedi had become, given that he was once Dooku's apprentice. And plus this is shown in his actions in 2, since he isn't purely reliant on hatred or rage when in combat like other Sith (notice how he doesn't have the yellow Sith Eyes that Maul, Palps and Anakin have in 1 and 3, or how his use of force lightning is more flowing and direct and not chaotic and stormy like Palpatine's). He's a more calculated duelist who prefers to taunt his opponents, and even when he defeats Anakin and Obi-Wan, he has a look of despair and/or regret, which is contrary to how Maul acted after killing Qui-Gon. Showing that even though he was victorious in that moment, he took no solace in it and he actually did have some level of respect for them as they were both his former peers.
Sure it's very very subtle and the movies could've had more scenes of him explaining his distaste for the Republic, but it does exist in the movies regardless. And no, I'm not pulling this from Clone Wars or any external sources if that's what you're gonna assume as I know next to nothing about either of those
@@JayJaycubbsI get what u mean but they should've had more scenes of him explaining a bit more of his motivations and they should've gave him a little bit more depth and character development
@@hellothere-bx8cf I agree. I’d say that my main criticism for Attack of the Clones is that there’s a lack of connective tissue between the events that happen, and that there was a lot of scenes that were cut that should’ve been in the film. One of them being a scene where Obi-Wan talks to the librarian in the temple, and she explains Dooku’s origins and how he had a falling out with the Jedi and the Republic. I think they should have kept that scene in as it does give Dooku’s character more depth, but I guess it was cut out because the movie was already very long and George probably wanted Dooku’s character to be a mystery until the third act
@@JayJaycubbs yeah ik but that scene wasn't even that long and even if it was, there were some scenes that is in the movie that is just unnecessary to be it e.g the stupid action scene in geonosian droid factory where padme fell into a cup😂
The Who's Killing Padme bit starts at 26:26 for everyone who's just here to rewatch the bit.
true. that part is absolute comedy gold.
I love that bit so much. 😂😂😂
I fckn laughed so hard
@@applepie1272 true
I watch this vid every fot this part thanks
“3/10 i hope it doesn’t get any worse than this!”
*cue attack of the clones title*
IT'S A TRAP!
*Confused Screaming*
nicole It’s still better then Boring Menace
*always sunny theme plays”
@Autismo but remember, back then no one knew what the clone wars were, the excellent show didn't exist, so when yoda talked about the clone wars nobody was surprised, considering that, maybe they should've started on the clone wars and finish on rots
honestly as boring and lifeless these movies are I’m glad they helped create something good like the clone wars show and overall expanded the universe in a positive way.
I remember telling my dad about the prequels and he wasn’t very amused. He also would be annoyed whenever I referred to A New Hope because back when he went to see the movie it was just called “Star Wars”.
Same here. My dad saw the original in theaters as well, and as for myself I honestly just pretend the prequels aren;t from the same universe. IV is always going to be just "Star Wars" to me.
@@kylecope528 Yeah, I honestly can’t consider them within the same universe myself, which annoys me so much because it could’ve been so much better. I always liked Clone Wars because it really felt like a deep dive of Anakin to me, truly analyzing the character in a way that makes him actually a good person in the beginning. If they had that same kind of character in these prequels, I would’ve never thought of them as bad as I do now.
Exactly. I am tired though of fans who claim the Clone Wars somehow "redeems" the prequels, as if a failed movie can some how be made better by adding on supplementary material to make up for poor screenwriting decisions. The prequels could have been much better. I see Jude Law as a young Obi-wan aside an actor more resembling Sebastian Shaw (That's one benefit The Clone Wars had--Anakin's model looked more like something that could grow up into the unmasked Vader we see at the end of Jedi.), with enough complexity surrounding Anakin's turn so that it felt like an authentic Greek tragedy rather than a recap of the backstory with a fridged wife added into the mix. I would have liked to see more of Anakin struggling not just with the tenants of the Jedi, but also with the the efficacy of the Old Republic as opposed to a rising dictatorial regime (something we see only once in AOTC).
@@kylecope528 I agree
The prequels have the most inhuman dialogue:
Anakin: "I... I killed them. I killed them all. And not just the men, but the women, and the children too! They're like ANIMALS!! AND I SLAUGHTERED THEM LIKE ANIMALS!!! I HATE THEM!!!"
Padmé, the anti-war activist: "to be angry is to be human."
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Don't forget the part where Anakin straight up admits he loves the idea of a dictatorship completely seriously and Padme, the democracy advocate, just laughs it off
SEE THEY DO SHOW F* EMOTIONS
Lucas wrote some really cringe shit but I actually like this scene, specially how Anakin seems to be seriously furious, sad and like a child throwing a tantrum all at once, which is completely understandable since he was denied of a childhood and is fully experiencing emotion for the first time since he became a Jedi
Lmao
Odd-Olhos Pendulum Dragão anakin’s line isn’t really the problem, Padme’s response was completely inappropriate and underwhelming. This dude just committed ethnic cleansing and you say “it’s human” as if like it’s just okay? That doesn’t make any sense
Hey kids wanna see a movie about taxation of trade routes to outlying star systems?
The Kids: ........................
How about a movie about a Jamaican
Star Wars Fans: Oh hell naw
I mean... the college graduate in me is actually pretty interested, but i can't speak for 10 year old me.
@MaybeNextTime and you're wrapped in nostalgia for the prequels
YEAH!
that isnt the only thing in episode 1
George: “please, John, your music in the originals was so good, you’re my only hope”
John: “well, I do have this one banger I call ‘Duel of the Fates’”
George: “Say no more! Grab that and a couple other new tracks and we can just remix the old music for the rest!”
Even as a kid in the theater it made no sense to me why Jango didn’t just shwack Padme himself. Not only is the dude is covered in armor and weapons, WHY would he want to split commission with another assassin??
To add more threads to the assassination attempt so that less people would trace it to Dooku
@@JayJaycubbsEnded up making everything worse in the end.
@@valterfara5027 “source: I made it up”
I was literally laughing out loud when Marcus was talking about how convoluted the Padmee assassination was. Haha
Yeah that was pretty funny
Best part of this video, without question.
Poor Marcus sounded like he was having a mental breakdown.
I haven’t heard Marcus in this much agony for a very long time. My heart literally goes out to him for making this video.
What’s the song going on during that sequence?
My dad still rants sometimes about how pissed he was that they spoiled Maul’s lightsaber in the trailers
A few things that have occurred to me over time about the overarching story of the Prequels:
1) not sure this was intentional, but in context, the Jedi being clueless about the ins and outs of personal relationships and familial emotion is a direct result of their order having become so insular in the pursuit of the 'cosmic' Force. Their highest members literally live on a pedestal and they have no idea what life is like for normal people.
2) I think Palpatine doesn't have clairvoyance, he's just really good at juggling multiple balls at once and adapting on the fly. And unlike the Jedi, he understands people and although he uses them like they're his tools, he understands human nature in a way that the Jedi *never* could. He is a master manipulator and a liar, so even when he tells the truth, it's in pursuit of his own goals.
3) the reason Qui-Gon wasn't on the Jedi Council was because he was an outlier in the order and not rigidly orthodox with his views of the 'living' Force. He understood the importance of familial connection and could converse and connect with ordinary people. It has been stated by John Williams and strongly implied through the music piece 'Duel of the Fates' that if Qui-Gon Jinn had lived to train Anakin, he would have seen to it that Anakin would have returned to his mother sooner and would never have been vulnerable to the Dark Side or Palpatine's influence.
There's a lot more that could be said. As clumsily told as they are, the overarching story of the Prequels is definitely better than the films are often given credit for.
If the dialogue, directing, acting, and haphazard plotting didn't drag them down, the PT would be as revered by film nerds as much as Star Wars Prequel fans.
Edit: can't spell Palpatine's name right lol
Palestine?
All those things you mention are aspects that a good writer & director would have been able to get across to the viewer. Rather than this bland film that relies on special effects & John Williams rather than good storytelling & acting.
I really don't think the Ivory Tower Jedi Council interpretation was intentional, because within the context of the story, they're proven completely right.
They correctly call that Anakin is a poor candidate for Jedi training and refuse to train him, only caving when Obi-Wan forces the issue by threatening to train Anakin himself if the Order won't. And the one time, as far as they know, that they compromise on their policy of recruiting toddlers to be repressed warrior monks and allow someone who's actually old enough to say "no" into the Order, he snaps and murders everyone. The rest of the Jedi, meanwhile, all presumably recruited as babies, do not snap and murder everyone, and most seem to be reasonably well-adjusted, if bland and uptight. If anything, the story validates their viewpoint. The way the story is framed, the creepy, insular council of inscrutable, emotionless religious zealots are _the voices of reason._
Also, Lucas openly compared the dialogue to background music and was much more interested in directing the CGI than the actors, several of whom have since said that they were given almost zero direction and didn't always know what their character was doing in a scene, what was going on in the story, what their motivations were or even where to _look._
Yoda be like “Hee Hee Hoo commit war crime I must”
"Maximum atrocity I must inflict."
MMMmmmmh run over minorities I must
Run the pedestrians down in my 2001 Honda Civic I must
@@blakjack6359 hit VTEC at 3 am i will
Fund my ketamine addiction, it does.
i love how cosmonaut is slowly going insane every minute that goes by.
Me too.
I’m going insane with every contradiction he makes with his points
@@louiemeister9646 Well, for one, seemed like Gunray wanted Padme dead, much of the second movie - once Padme was off Coruscant, she maybe wasn't even a threat to the 'plan'.
This happens in every video even if the content is good or bad
The reason that all the Star Wars fans just hate Star Wars and I HEAVILY disagree with cosmonaut variety hour, but I don’t hate him, I just,disagree
People forgiving the prequals because the sequals sucked a little more is like forgiving someone for pissing in your cereal because someone else took a shit on your pancakes. That's just two egregious acts in a row
This made me laugh way more than it should have
I think Palpatine, Maul and Grievous would be incredibly interesting if they were exclusively focused on as the main trio of villains because each one slots into a different part of the hierarchy. Grievous is the droid general guy, Maul is some kind of Sith assassin being sent around by Palpatine directly, and Palpatine is the big bad. It would be a lot more satisfying if by the time we get to episode 3, Maul is the one being decapitated by Anakin in front of Palpatine, as we'd actually have some kind of weight attached to the moment by that point from two movies of this character being present. Hell, he could have been the guy to not only kill Qui-Gon, but take Anakin's hand as well. At least that way we'd understand Anakin having some level of internal struggle about whether or not to execute the literally disarmed guy on his knees. Maybe work Maul's subplot about getting robot legs from the clone wars show into the second movie or something so the phantom menace still keeps its whole climax, I dunno
I actually love Count Dooku ! He’s meant to show the flaws of the Jedi Order and he’s to show that HE could be the one who started the war, not the Jedi or Palpatine. He’s a political idealist, but a Dark Jedi who almost abandons his morals but believes he’s doing the wrong things for the right reasons. He saw through the corruption of the Jedi and the Senate and wants to remake the Jedi Order by destroying the Republic
excuse me wtf do you mean general grievous was just there for a cool battle? he was clearly there for the sex appeal
Ayo? 🤨
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
clearly
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@@gareno6713 welcum
Just a quick note: There was no Dooku stunt double. Lee did all the duels himself and was an avid sword fighter in real life.
The fight with Yoda was still a stunt double. They just put Christopher Lee’s face on him in post production. But I believe the fight in Episode III was really him.
@@robinanwaldt There is an interview where he talks about the process for shooting the fight at one of the Celebrations.
wha? there is a behind the scenes of him talking about not doing the fight scene
Oh dang. That’s a pretty cool fact but I still don’t get why Dooku was in the movie.
Jacob McQuaid I think he was actually the one who suggested a curved lightsaber hilt.