2016 Chevrolet Camaro 2.0T - One Take
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ย. 2017
- This Chevrolet Camaro 2.0T is the entry-level model, rivaling Ford's "Ecoboost" Four-Cylinder Mustang. making 275 horsepower and 295 lb/ft of torque. This, it should be noted, is roughly what you got with a 1994 Camaro Z/28, with the LT1 V8. Its owner, Jimmy, is actually a professional courier, which has allowed him to rack up an extraordinary amount of miles on this Camaro in the first year.
Check out Jimmy's TH-cam channel here:
/ @thecoolestcourier - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
1:27 his reaction to his driving is priceless
JMB8813 It's like he was expecting the boost to melt Matts eyeballs then couldn't comprehend how Matt was just gunning it 😂😂
JMB8813 lmao
Good catch. Had to go back and look at it. lol lol
I noticed that too, DEFINITELY is funny if you look at it again. Nice car man, 11K off GOOD FOR YOU. F the dealers...
JMB8813 ikr I had to check comments to see
Heavy flywheel? - It's like the wheel of fortune. Epic
Kid wanted a Camaro and got a sweet one for the $$. For what he wanted: i.e. a fuel efficient (and low insurance), stylish car he got a decent deal. I like the interior of the Camaros but they're like a bunker to see out of.
Fuck you.
@@cookybiscuit LOL weirdo
The owner's facial expression through the whole video, especially at the beginning, us absolutely priceless.
I follow this Kids channel. He is cool. Anybody that thinks this isnt a cool car for 26k is fucking nuts. People buy all kinds of cars with 2.0ts and 1.8ts for way much more money that arent as fun as this car. Fucking thing is loaded out with row your own and can get 32 mpgs hwy. It also looks good, I like this front end and style better then the SS actually. At 3200 pounds the 4 pot is more then enough to have fun on technical roads and pass on the hwy. This kid is smarter then most people for hunting down such a bargain.. Im sure he saves money on insurance as well. The car is 0 to 60 in the 5 sec range for a daily driver its not slow or underpowered.
True - FoRS, STi & Golf R are in the 3300-3500 range, granted AWD hatches, but everything is heavy these days.
No lie for that price loaded, I would trade my bmw f10 and just add small mods to make it more comfortable
I'm so glad I got a Honeywell ad before the video, I really need to get the maintenance done on my private jet.
buy some garretts and boost me nan
People complaining about him having a 4 banger must not know what a Courier does. All about them MPGs. Hes got the car he wants yet doesnt get terrible V8 MPGs.
The Adventure Mazda i had the 4 and the 8 pretty identical mileage on the highway only a bit terrible in stop and go
I highly doubt it. I have that same 2.0T in my ATS, which is basically the same platform the Camaro is based off of and city MPG is still low 20's and highway right around 30. The V6 Camaro is very close to the same, with a lot less explaining to have to do as to why you got a "muscle car" with a 4cyl.
The Adventure Mazda hey man I follow your channel! Theres actually a 5 mile difference in MPG’s in the city so that will add up in the end especially with the big tank. Plus I’m sure its much easier to handle without a big V8 in the front.
Arthur Wall very much agreed. If GM did the 3.6 and 3.6TT from the ATS-V in the Camaro, itd be a much nicer line up imo
The Adventure Mazda That is shouting I want a Camaro but cant effort a real one.
the poor kid looked petrified the entire time
If I could trust one persn to drive, it would definitely be Matt, I'm confused as why he's looks so terrified lol
Tabarnacos2 he's scared of the incoming comments laughing at him wasting so much money on a 4 cylinder V8 car. And he should be ashamed.
THE TRUTH MACHINE Reking bullshitters everywhere! What's a 4 cylinder V8 car?
Shobin Drogan you sound dumb enough to buy one if you can't work it out. You sound poor too.
It's his car, if he loves it, then that's all that matters. You don't like it ? That's cool, but why the fuck do you care what this guy bought ? He obviously enjoys it, so I don't think that this guy gives a shit about what a kid on TH-cam thinks to be honest.
I was a bit skeptical when they were talking about curb weights... but double-checking Chevy's specs, the car does indeed have a curb weight of 3354 lbs. Car and Driver tested a manual 2.0T and it came out to 3410 lbs (they actually put it on the scale) which sounds about right when you add in the $10k in options their test car had.
Nice job Chevy for making a car closer to 3000 lbs than 4000 lbs. I really wish even more engineering was put into making cars lighter rather than just adding more and more power to the point of absurdity.
GordonGEICO new car buyers want all the luxury item and big car (even though the camaro manages to be big on the outside but small on the inside)
It's worth noting that a car just like this won a national championship in DS autocross this year. On stock suspension. And I have seen new ones below 20k. Beating the WRX, the BRZ etc
jaynen truth. It's the car to have in DS. The Ecoboost Mustang is just a joke in stock class. Horribly overweight. Even my GT350 really needs to lose 100lbs.
Yup. Mark Scroggs can win in anything though! ;)
Guy pooping his pants holding on for dear life. Matt: "Look at that bird! Wow! That's a beautiful bird." XD
Hey Matt, what shampoo do you recommend for my balls? I was thinking dove?
Dusty
I've started using flea shampoo for dogs, nice and shiny afterwards with a pleasing disinfectant bouquet.
Dude Head & Shoulders and be done with it. Trust me.
Chris Sorreda head and shoulders and also dicky and balls?
Pantene V works great. Especially for shaving. U don't gotta worry about the water rinsing all the soap off during ur shave
Soak it in cider. Balls too.
I feel like the 4-cyl and V6 Camaro are seriously good cars for the money, and yet they get no respect simply because there are (many) better versions available.
I mean I get it...the V8 is the one to get. It's the one I want to get. But that doesn't make the 4-cyl and V6 bad, and it doesn't prevent them from being one of the best sports cars you can get for under $30k.
Adam S this car having an i4 and v6 configuration shows how far the Camaro has come in terms of the rest of the cars dynamics. No longer needs the v8 to maintain good car status.
And that is fine...the VQ generally does sound good. But if you haven't heard the Camaro V6 with dual mode exhaust you should listen to this: th-cam.com/video/Qrs0oa-XIV4/w-d-xo.html
+Arthur Wall the 350Z HR has an almost identical 0-60 and 1/4 mile as the 11-14 Mustang V6 and can't beat it in the corners either (the Mustang is actually slightly faster around a corner). The only place the 350Z HR is noticeably faster is top speed due to the Mustangs electronic limiter. Even then, the track edition 350Z HR could only match the 2011 V6 Mustang around VIR in Car and Driver's lightning lap test. Yes, the 350Z costs less, but it's also older, much less practical, and less efficient.
Even then they're effectively the same. Different magazines quote different numbers, but they're easily in the same range.
DC Garage - Numbers dont always tell the story. Corner speed isnt the determining factor when comparing handling between cars, some of these sedans corner faster than a miata.... does that mean it handles better? Nope. The driving dynamics are better in the 350z HR vs 2011 Mustang V6 its not something that can be seen on paper and can only be felt when driving them. Also im not sure what you mean by less efficient the VQ35HR makes 306 HP on a 3.5L engine the Mustang makes less (305 hp) on a bigger 3.7L engine.
If that dealer who ordered the car thought ANYONE would buy a 4 cylinder Camaro for almost 40 grand, there's no way they're gonna stay in business forever, lmao. Good on him for getting it for 26k, that's a damn good price for the amount of car he got!
Actually a good deal at 26k.
Like 20 k now decent price
The owners face at 1:27 looked like they were headed straight for a brick wall!!😂
jarred smith he doesn't probably drive it hard other than a straight road, but it's always a different feeling being in the passenger seat.
marc I know the feeling of not being in control. I honestly would have acted composed knowing it would be on TH-cam.
marc that moment reminded him of his homsexual experiences
For 26k I would rather have a New Mclaren P1
Michael Rodriguez your smart lmao
Someone gets it. This is every comment that isn't complaining about the cylinder count.
Ernie You’re*
lol
Good one
haha that kid's face is hilarious, looks like thats as fast as his ever been lol
Mr P probably just was afraid for his car
3319 lbs. stock with a manual. I know, as that is my DD : ) Also, got mine new for $20k
Not bad at all.
Yeah I was actually a bit shocked at first that he paid $26k until I realized it had all the options. These cars start at just under $26k, and at any given point you can get a few thousand off, so your car at $20k sounds like a much better deal as it undercuts the realistic price of a Focus ST, GTI, BRZ/GT86, etc.
I also found a '17 Fiesta ST for my wife, under $20K. It is a good time to like fun cars!
What a steal!
Yea, the options make all the difference. I'm sure back in the day, you could tell a lot by the general trim level -- but there are so many add-on tech options today, that you can't quite tell the sticker from the trim.
So glad you did a one take on this!
Oh crap, I've been sub'd to Jimmy for a while. Cool to see him on here!
For 26k I'd rather have this than a new FRS for a daily. Good catch dude!
The FRS is a good car with good balance, but even without the mods the base Camaro is certainly faster on a track, and this one being optioned has a lot more features.
I feel like a mid miles focus st with a tune and supporting mods would outrun them both and it would be cheaper. I'm not positive about the Camaro though
Id rather have the frs tbh. I'm not driving a camaro with it's balls cut off.
yeah true! driving a muscle car without a V8 is pathetic.
good luck revving the living soul out of that boxer every time you have to merge or overtake a semi!
Dude next to him like "please don't crash my car"
Heard a couple of these doing the 'no-lift-shift' and it sounds gnarly with each blip. It has that snarl similar to when a Benz upshifts at WOT
Matt , I think you should have done a bit more tight roads and explored/exploited the handling of this car. It is my understanding that due to GM shaving so much weight off this car (the kid removed 150 pounds more) that the turn in is very good and it changes direction very well. I thought it was noteable that he is running all seasons as well. At that low curb weight and not being overpowered it is easier to have the car stick without expensive sticky summer tires that need need replacing every couple oil changes, which really adds to the expense of owning a car (especially if you get any flats and need to then replace 2 for even wear). i think there is alot more interesting points that alot of people don't consider when looking at this car. Although with a deep discount its not as appealing for sure , but cost of ownership is worth mentioning. I imagine with the all seasons and advanced TC these days the car is also driveable in certain snowy conditions where any car with giant summer tires will be useless. Lastly, no dig on you but I bet with just him in the car and the 150 extra pounds he removed i bet it feels a bit livlier .
"very heavy flywheel, it's like turning the wheel of fortune"
Not sure why but I found that really funny
@1:10 this is EXACTLY why this engine in the 6th gen Camaro platform is so awesome. I am and always will be a v8 guy but I am at least enthusiastic about the option to have the I4 turbo in a superb platform. Same goes for the Mustang eco boost.
I love my sunroof in my 17' 2SS and I am 5'11. It helps with the "claustrophobic" feeling of the camaro interior for me.
Great car! But If he got the V6 “2 extra cylinders” people would hate him and say “Why didn’t you get the V8?”
The coolest couriors camaro. Nice my dude!
Thks guys.
what an awesome cruise thru the mountains
I bought a 2019 turbo camaro. It's a blast to drive. They could've had a little more fun in the car in this video, it really doesn't do it justice. This car MOVES and its so light compared to the SS, it feels like you are flying around the corners. Base models can be had around 20k. I don't feel the need to add a single thing to my car, except maybe add the 4 piston brembos in the front when the time is right. The LTG is a great motor and the tremec 3160 perfectly complements it.
LTG+TR3160+alpha chassis. How can you go wrong?
The interior looks really nice
Those 4cyl turbo pony cars are no joke. They can make some serious power with just bolt-ons.
We're All Thieves "Serious" is a bit much. I'd say decent. Lol
We're All Thieves you mean decent? Even if u manage that this thing weighs sooo much
Javi The 4 cylinder weighs almost 350lbs less than the V8 SS. What are you on about? But yeah I guess decent would be a better description at 320whp/350tq.
We're All Thieves 300 pounds lighter but far less potential than the V8. It's not even close.
MOST H8D When did I say it had more potential? The fact is what the 4 cylinder turbo variants are able to provide nowadays is impressive. I'd still take a V8 over it but I can't deny that the boosted 4 cylinders are underrated.
Car looks awesome
wow it actually sounds great
This guy looks terrified
Shittin bricks
Great vid!
Seems like a reasonable option. I probably wouldn’t get one, but wouldn’t mind testing one out.
The radio screen is tilted down to reduce reflection according to GM. I have no issues with mine
Is this the same 4 cylinder as the ATS 2.0?
Was asking myself why a turbo 4? But then he mentioned what he paid for it as opposed to what the sticker was
Love that Djent plate!
franczy cue the meshuggah!
Fuguhdunt
You have excellent taste!
28 seconds in and I had to scroll down to find this comment. \m/
franczy missed it. Super sick tho
Can’t agree more with the sunroof comment. I have a 15 1LE with a sunroof(only one left in SoCal when I got it) and I absolutely hate the lack of head room. And I track mine heavily.
This guy got a hell of a deal on this car, holy crap
Kid looked seriously concerned as soon as Matt took off. Funny!
Technically, when the 2.0L came out it was supposed to go against the Mustang's 3.7L V6 while the Camaro's 3.6L V6 is supposed to go against the 2.3L Ecoboost. Things changed when Ford stopped making the 3.7L V6 which was detuned and shunned before it was killed despite being a great engine :(
I didn't get the four cylinder Camaro until i got a T2.0 Buick regal and realized i can get a ZZP PCM that bumps it up 40hp and makes the throttle response way better, at 300hp its on par with the v6 but in a lighter car, and ZZP has a no modification bolt on turbo that is good for 500hp. The T2.0 is so easy and relatively cheap to mod it kinda makes the v6 pointless besides the fact the v6 actually sounds good now , but there is not much you can do to get more power out of the v6 whereas the T2.0 only costs $1,900 to mod for v8 power levels.
Lol to all the shoulda had a V8 comments.
I'm subbed to a guy who owns a V12 miata. you should tell him how great a 5 ton 4 cylinder car is. MPG makes sense however that doesn't make it cool. Here in Germany we have the autobahn yet every fucking street in my city is filled with fucking disgusting hatchbacks because of MPG. is that cool?
アマ - "how great a 5 ton 4 cylinder car is" Huh? This car is ~3200lbs, which is 1452kg. Not that heavy in this day in age. Obviously it's not as cool as the 455hp V8 (or 650hp Supercharged V8) that is available, but it's still a good car, especially for the price.
It would be nice to have more lap data on the base Camaro but no one seems to test anything below the V6 1LE which has done quite well. But based on the chassis and reviews even the base model should be quite adept on track.
yeah but I'm saying for the price you can have a V12 miata so it's V12 sleeper vs 4 cyl muscle car
アマ you’re seriously comparing a stock base model Camaro to a one off custom garage built Miata? You act like anyone can just do that. I didn’t even know you could fit a V12 in a Miata. Plus I’m sure it required countless hours of cutting and custom fab just to fit it between the shock towers. This isn’t a comparison. A legit comparison would be why buy this Camaro when I could get an older SS for cheaper. However, that’s not the point.
I was joking bro. Didn't expect that V12 to fit in a miata either.
There's no comparsion to make because the decision was about MPG. So you can only compare this to economy cars, and in that case I'd say fuck it, go for a cheap ass economy car and just get a fun car for the weekends or whatever. I hate it when people make compromises and get an iconic sports/muscle car with an economy engine. It's just a no good. VW is building so many shitty GTIs because of MPG. As long as you're not paying shittons of taxes and insurance for each car you own and your petrol isn't as expensive as whisky (meaning you don't live in germany) you shouldn't buy crap like this. If you have 20 or 35k, you can get an economy car and a serious fun car. Settling for a compromise means one of the following: A) you want to show off or care to much about how you look inside your car B) you care to much about luxury and comfort and buy a nice car with a piece of shit engine to feel good meaning your enthusiasm is very different from mine because I care about going fast and having fun C) you're stupid and want to push manufacturers to downsize their engines and build economy engines into ANYTHING. there are 2 retarded trends right now: put 900 hp engines into mercedes G classes (brabus). downsize your iconic sportscars (M3) while putting 700hp V12s into luxury boat-cars (760LI). if people keep buying expensive cars with MPG as a main concern then ferrari will build a 4cyl version of the F12/488 some day.
Was thinking about getting one with the 2.0 or the v6, or should I stick with my trucks.
On the initial pull away, I saw a Camaro but heard a Civic.
whats the cylinder alignment on these? it sounds so much like a evo now. correct me if im wrong but is it a inline 4? have they even made V4s?
does it djent?
Interesting. Sounds like something out of Japan or the Focus hatch. Appreciate hearing about the different variants of domestic offerings.
Lighter flywheel, biger turbo?
What kind of exhaust you have?
The power figures almost resemble that of a Evo 8 or 9. Pretty cool car, this.
2002
Horsepower: V6 200 to V8 335 hp
Curb weight: 3,323 to 3,577 lbs
2017
2.0L turbo 16-valve I-4/275 hp @ 5,600 rpm, 295 lb-ft @ 3,000-4,500 rpm
3200 pounds
Fully loaded n saves 11k
Good Mpg/good for job
Probably less on the insurance,more 💰 saved.
Good shell for the future if he wants too drop bigger/more turbos,2jz/RB or a V8, he could.
Different strokes for different folks.
What could be the advantage of having a big flywheel? I mean it's kind of redicilous if you let of the throttle before you shift and it just stays at it's rpm.
I have driven and reviewed a modified ecoboost mustang. It took my stock 05 Mustang GT for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I haven't been able to get in one of these yet, but I assume it would wake up the same with some mods as the ecoboost.
And even though that ecoboost smoked my aging GT a movie is only as good as it's soundtrack. At least, that is what I tell myself when window shopping for a power adder. HA!
1:00 Lots of empty space in that engine bay
almost as if they could cram 4 more cylinders & a blower in there *eats popcorn*
I’d be into a Turbo V6 if they made one. Interested to see one of these with a big turbo kit.
The 540 Marine I’m from Australia so didn’t realise. Thats an interesting proposition.
where did the drive take place?
For what he was doing I'd say the 4 cylinder makes sense. Delivery service? + lots of miles? not bad.
What’s the difference between 2.0T and 2.0L ??
The screen is tilted down to avoid sun glare. It's really weird to get used to but on a sunny day you learn to appreciate it. I rented a Camaro for a week and I hated the screen the first few days but by the end of the week I got used to it and then when I went back to my car and saw how bad the glare was on my infotainment, I kinda realized the benefit of it.
I used to drive a 93 camaro with the LT1. what a life
Its a car with a good chassis and a manual transmission. Who cares that its a 4-cylinder? It looks like it drives great.
What does a professional courier do, exactly?
I've got a 2017 GT in the driveway and I was genuinely impressed by this thing.
Had no idea these big cars were offered with a tiny 4cyl
I’m 6 feet tall, have the same vehicle WITH a sunroof, plenty of room! Sunroof changes the look completely (for the better) absolutely get the sunroof!
That engine sounds good
I really like the look of the "current gen" camaro's.
the v8 weighs more than the turbo 4? who would have thought?
Best license plate ever
My 2016 Mustang has never had an issue with the gauges reflecting into the windshield. This guy got a great deal on that car. Seems the 4cyl Camaro's don't sell AT ALL. You can find them very cheap.
I really don't understand any of the hate around this car. I have one of these, same model year, same engine and transmission, and similarly equipped (minus one package). It retailed for $33k USD, and I got it for $24K. I would've wanted a 1SS, but that was out of my budget, so I went with the best that I could afford. I chose to stick with the 2.0T as opposed to the V6 because the 2.0T pairs better with the manual gearbox, which is what I wanted instead of the automatic; and, with a few bolt-ons and a custom tune, I can have performance much closer to the SS than the V6 would ever give me.
But that's also not to say that the V6 is all bad. When paired with the automatic, the V6 actually gets better gas mileage on cheaper regular fuel, and the sound of the V6 competes with the likes of Jaguar and Nissan. The only shortcoming with the V6 is aftermarket support for serious performance modifications, since everyone is focused on the V8 and 2.0T offerings.
I've seen people with the V6 and 8-speed automatic achieve 40 MPG on long highway trips. I get around 26 MPG average with my 2.0T and 6-speed manual.
Also, I haven't heard of anyone putting turbos or superchargers on this new V6.
Well that was pretty cool. I would not buy one but cool to learn about it. I am surprised that there isn't a big enough difference between the magna ride suspension and this one that you would know that just by driving it and not I have to ask.
Poor Jimmy...Matt winding the piss out of his car and pointing out all the weaknesses....lol Jimmy probably expected this though haha....
Geez he looked frightened when Matt first took off lmao
Just noticed on Insta that Randy Pobst is looking to buy one of these as his "daily"... Now I'm thinking there must be something to this 4 banger Camaro.
Holy shit it's thecoolestcurrier. Love your channel but I just stumbled on the review here.
DJENT! I like this guy!
Well thanks!
love that blue
275hp is respectable
Crazy to think it's got the same displacement as my Civic Si... Although I wish mine had a turbo and was fully-loaded, hahaha.
Dude nice license plate!!!
thank you!
I believe that screen is tilted downward to reduce sunlight glare or something.
I kinda got the ecoboost mustang, but this? Maybe if it was stock quiet.
you're right about the europe, we're not getting the V6
You didn't want it anyway. I'll be surprised if Chevy offers a V6 in the Camaro for much longer. Ford has stopped offering the V6 in the Mustang because they just weren't selling any longer.
No, I think the V6 actually outsells the 4-cyl here in the US. And the V6 actually sounds good. It's still not as good as the V8 variants but it's still a great sports car for the money.
isn't camaro/mustang V6 still de facto coupe/convertible in car rental fleets? I think that is the bulk of it sales.
What did u say about black people?
Roger J chevy didnt make the v6 obsolete by giving it less power than the 4.0t like ford did
The screen pointing downward may be due to glare?
The mufflers on my 2011 LS3 weighted 40lbs each if I remember right. So that's 80lbs when you cut them off.
How many times did the kid check how fast they wer going?
This 2.0 turbo is a hell of a lot of fun and its great on gas too. I drove the SS and its too loud and drinks gas like a drunken sailor for a daily driver because the brutal acceleration is fun and all but you can't drive it like that every day.
That kid was freaking out as you started driving. I'm thinking he doesn't go fast very often.
Lol Matt was like he’s lying about the weight...oh...he’s telling the truth
Great video, Matt. I enjoyed your honesty on the glare issues with the Camaro’s and Mustang’s. This car is a steal imo. I’ve seen these LTG I4 (I think that’s what they’re called) make 400-500 hp in a few Cadillac ATS’, so at this weight with a few more mods, you could have a car that has a better power to weight ratio than an SS Camaro - it would feel lighter on its feet, too. I’d still get the V8 for the sound, though, and Katech has been making crazy NA LT1 builds lately.
2.0T camaro or the ecoboost mustang are absolutely the way to go over the toybaru twins
Aurthur Wall - if you start throwing 10 year old used cars into the mix a C5 Corvette would offer a lot more performance for $16k than a 350Z.
That is why we mostly compare new to new.
A alpha platform Camaro that weighs 3,200lbs is hard to fuck with on the track, especially once it adds a ZZP tune for $400 which bumps it up to 315hp , i think a 315hp Camaro might even be able to hold it own against a c5 corvette.
what kind of 350z is 16k? Make it about half of that... honestly.
now if you could get a C5 Z06 for 16k... oh boy
Angelo F typical American thinks hp means the car handles good... lol
Clous the alpha chassis is one of the best handling platforms on the market right now even hold a top spot on the ring with a 7.16 lap tine, faster then the corvette Z06 and several lambo,Ferrari,Porsche's and the T2.0L is 500lbs lighter the the car that set that lap time.