Ironic how Subaru themselves when they needed to build a powerful VB they ditched the FA24 and put in a EJ207 built by Vermont Sportcars in the new 670hp VB "Project Midnight" build.
@@zombielivesmatter7294 I will be discussing that this week but it's not surprising at all. The EJ20 has decades of history The FA24 only has two years in a performance application. Plus VSC has already spent the time and money why would they spend even more time and money redoing the engine. Also I think there are regulations that they have to follow as well especially for rally which is why they didn't use the fa24 there.
@@HeavyMetalWRX look, I appear to hate on VB or FA24, but honestly you're very chill and a cool person promoting VB. It was about time Subaru made a new engine in FA24 and it is a good engine and maybe great after years later. What gets me sick is the few current FA24 owners that always have to compare to STI and claim they're better already, when it's obviously not "at this moment", but there's possibility it maybe. Just wish new VB owners can enjoy their car without having to always compare to previous STI and bash it.
@@zombielivesmatter7294who cares? Like seriously, who gives a crap what some Internet stranger thinks about literally anything outside of objective research and collaboration? Blows my mind that anyone is so emotional about an engine or model that they bounce between reddit, TH-cam, or Facebook if they're over 40, talking trash or flat out lying. I guess it's a tribe and individual validation thing, like they don't have anything viable to concern themselves with, or maybe things are so screwed up in their lives that they either want to share their pain or escape it through inconsequential conflict.
I know a fella with a '22 WRX (US model) he did similar mods as the s209 had, larger turbo, intercooler spray, catback exhaust, intake, tuned ECM it made 402 & 382 hp/tq
According to an article I read, the s210 is japan only with a very limited amount being sold. Will probably be similar or less numbers then the STI ej20 final edition they produced.
@HeavyMetalWRX the issue is, they are getting an upgrade going to sti transmission but since there is no "2022+ sti transmission" it's a "downgrade" so to speak being previous generation, they would HAVE to develop a new transmission that is designed for the VB
There will be one s210 for sure，but it will be a s4 s210，which means it is a cvt wrx probably with some wheel and brake upgrade，it won't be a STI like before，subaru won't only put STI trans in only 200 cars，unless there is a real normal vb STI，you need a completely factory line to build a cae like that and if it only work for 200 cars，the price will go to the moon...and it won't come to US
This isn't Subarus job to make this. It's STI. They don't have to put a CVT in anything. They have also never put a CVT in a S car, only S4. Theh out a EJ20 in the s208 where as the production car had the EJ25. It seems the production models aren't templates for STI.
You can buy these bbs wheels from Japan sti, why I never seen these sti bbs wheel with the TR? Imagine these wheels with 6 piston brakes from the TR? Add in some sti off the shelf parts you can easily make a S210 in the states easy , funnily enough all I see people changing wheels are the people with no 6 piston brembo and little brakes .
@@unclelive6918 what I'm considering is getting the s an neck that's in Japan / Mexico. The wheels so look really nice too, but that OEM price is always high.
@@JoeyC-nr5yk I don't know if that's a great idea If you're looking for gas mileage but you could just fill up like a 30 gallon drum or maybe three or four five gallon buckets and then just have some gas to blend when you fill up at your 93 by your house.
@@HeavyMetalWRX i’m on a 91 tune by Graham. i will ask Graham but since you answer faster, do i need to change gas types from 91 to 93 when i buy Grahams E40 Blend? is E30 a possibility that i can achieve if i ask Graham? i’d rather do the E30 route if possible due to the distance of E85. Let me know what you’re thinking man! I also do plan on bringing E85 home for storage.
@@HeavyMetalWRX ahhh, so switching over to 93 would make more since because you would be using less ethanol. My most important question, is an E30 blend a possibility you think?
Man, If I had the money for a car like that, I would 100% get one. But, would be worth it to fly to Japan and have someone let you drive it for a sec. Would be lots cheaper.
@@johnmccombe6342 I have always wanted to go to Japan. This is yet another reason if it ends up being JDM only. Subaru needs to start sending me airplane tickets 😭
@@HeavyMetalWRX I totally agree! I just saw an article about a 600+hp midnight edition wrx. Would love to see your take in a video about it. Also, I have been looking into moving to Japan. Depending on what happens in 4 months will decide whether I move there or not. If I do, you got a place to stay when you head out that way!
@@gengiz technically they don't. Some of the S models (s207) as an example we're not based on the existing STI of that generation to begin with. That's the beauty of the STI division. They are not limited to what Subaru is doing and are not really affected by the CAFE since they are not mass producing vehicles. Of course we will just have to wait and see and I hope that we have good news and not bad news.
@@gengiz they did but they weren't all based on the STI. They were based on the chassis of that generation. Then STI put in whatever engine and parts they wanted. If you're referring to the transmission, STI could out in a TY85 if they want. In 2017 they took the VA , removed the EJ25 and put in an EJ20. Anything is possible for them.
OUT OF ALL THE #'S AND LETTER COMBINATIONS IDK WHY THEY HAD TO CALL IT AN S4..JUST SEEMS LIKE THEY COULD OF CAME UP WITH A BETTER NAME..JUST A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE SOMEBODY DOES A COMPARISON BETWEEN AUDI S4 AND SUBARU S4..PRETTY SURE THEY ARE AROUND THE SAME DIMENSIONS CERTAINLY NOT PRICE THO
@@Htown156 that's the great thing about the STI division. They can make anything regardless of parts. They've already built whatever car they want engine and transmission wise.
If a $26k wrx is being sold for $40k.... an S210 is gonna be like 90k lol thanks biden... never in my life did I ever expect a 2024 wrx to cost more than what a brand new STI used to cost...
@steve8803 from 2021 to 2022 a wrx went from $26k to $35k+... a 1 year increase of 34%... before Biden... according to the US Bureau of Labor and Statistics, annual inflation rates every year range between 1.9% - 2.4%.... Bidens build back worse plan has raised inflation rates annually of over 20%+... wages have not and will not ever come close to matching the economic inflation rate. So no I did not ever expect a $26k car in 2021 to be nearly $40k in 2022.
@steve from 2021 to 2022 a wrx went from $26k to $35k+... a 1 year increase of 34%... before Biden... according to the US Bureau of Labor and Statistics, annual inflation rates every year range between 1.9% - 2.4%.... Bidens build back worse plan has raised inflation rates annually of over 20%+... wages have not and will not ever come close to matching the economic inflation rate. So no I did not ever expect a $26k car in 2021 to be nearly $40k in 2022.
Steve, from 2021 to 2022 a wrx went from $26k to $35k+... a 1 year increase of 34%... before joe... according to the US Bureau of Labor and Statistics, annual inflation rates every year range between 1.9% - 2.4%.... his build back worse plan has raised inflation rates annually of over 20%+... wages have not and will not ever come close to matching the economic inflation rate. So no I did not ever expect a $26k car in 2021 to be nearly $40k in 2022.
@@ttis3701 incorrect. MSRP of a base 2021 wrx was $27,495. Base 2022 wrx was $29,605. Of course there would be an increase, it's a brand new generation that was upgraded in every way. Now, the base MSRP of a 2024(which has more features) is $32,735. The 2024 base comes with the upgraded 11.6" infotainment and also comes with eyesight driver assist technology, both of which the '22 base didn't have. And believe me, I am for Trump. But inflation has occurred in every country, not just the US.
@@jameytinerella5095 ati has never made an automatic S model. This isn't up to Subaru. It's up to their STI division . The s4 comes in auto, not the s2xx.
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Ironic how Subaru themselves when they needed to build a powerful VB they ditched the FA24 and put in a EJ207 built by Vermont Sportcars in the new 670hp VB "Project Midnight" build.
@@zombielivesmatter7294 I will be discussing that this week but it's not surprising at all. The EJ20 has decades of history The FA24 only has two years in a performance application. Plus VSC has already spent the time and money why would they spend even more time and money redoing the engine. Also I think there are regulations that they have to follow as well especially for rally which is why they didn't use the fa24 there.
@@HeavyMetalWRX look, I appear to hate on VB or FA24, but honestly you're very chill and a cool person promoting VB. It was about time Subaru made a new engine in FA24 and it is a good engine and maybe great after years later. What gets me sick is the few current FA24 owners that always have to compare to STI and claim they're better already, when it's obviously not "at this moment", but there's possibility it maybe. Just wish new VB owners can enjoy their car without having to always compare to previous STI and bash it.
@@zombielivesmatter7294who cares? Like seriously, who gives a crap what some Internet stranger thinks about literally anything outside of objective research and collaboration? Blows my mind that anyone is so emotional about an engine or model that they bounce between reddit, TH-cam, or Facebook if they're over 40, talking trash or flat out lying. I guess it's a tribe and individual validation thing, like they don't have anything viable to concern themselves with, or maybe things are so screwed up in their lives that they either want to share their pain or escape it through inconsequential conflict.
I know a fella with a '22 WRX (US model) he did similar mods as the s209 had, larger turbo, intercooler spray, catback exhaust, intake, tuned ECM it made 402 & 382 hp/tq
Torque news.. you can't take them seriously.. .
That's why you always gotta find their source 😂
According to an article I read, the s210 is japan only with a very limited amount being sold. Will probably be similar or less numbers then the STI ej20 final edition they produced.
@@longdomedia even if it's limited I do hope they at least go through with making one. At least some of us can enjoy 😭
I’d settle for an STI
probably gauging interest and potential profit before production. If enough people want it they will get it.
@@jake.overall everybody said they want it, then when it's available they realize they can't afford it anyway.
@steve8803 That's why I just sucked it up and bought my GR Corolla
transmission will be the biggest upgrade these cars need!
@@Timgeo84 I agree. Hopefully at least some of these get made and people can enjoy them. I rather have a fee than have none.
@HeavyMetalWRX the issue is, they are getting an upgrade going to sti transmission but since there is no "2022+ sti transmission" it's a "downgrade" so to speak being previous generation, they would HAVE to develop a new transmission that is designed for the VB
My guess would be the S210 is JDM exclusive, and then a S211 for the USDM in 2026
@@PandaP- dude by s211 it may not be as fun to drive haha
There will be one s210 for sure，but it will be a s4 s210，which means it is a cvt wrx probably with some wheel and brake upgrade，it won't be a STI like before，subaru won't only put STI trans in only 200 cars，unless there is a real normal vb STI，you need a completely factory line to build a cae like that and if it only work for 200 cars，the price will go to the moon...and it won't come to US
This isn't Subarus job to make this. It's STI. They don't have to put a CVT in anything. They have also never put a CVT in a S car, only S4. Theh out a EJ20 in the s208 where as the production car had the EJ25. It seems the production models aren't templates for STI.
@@HeavyMetalWRXI personally would eat a lot of popcorn if they gave the S210 a SPT/CVT and released it in the US.
@@murmsuniversalrobotics3938 I would be absolutely floored if that happens.
@@HeavyMetalWRX I'm just thinking it would be mildly amusing to visit subreddits if it did.
You can buy these bbs wheels from Japan sti, why I never seen these sti bbs wheel with the TR? Imagine these wheels with 6 piston brakes from the TR?
Add in some sti off the shelf parts you can easily make a S210 in the states easy , funnily enough all I see people changing wheels are the people with no 6 piston brembo and little brakes .
@@unclelive6918 what I'm considering is getting the s an neck that's in Japan / Mexico. The wheels so look really nice too, but that OEM price is always high.
It's going to be a TR/TS with higher boost, nothing more than anything a mild tune on a stock car would give.
Considering the previous S cars came setup for the track it's exciting to wonder how well it's going to handle out of the box.
@@HeavyMetalWRX For the money they'll most likely charge I'd expect/want lowered suspension WITH the electronic damping modes. Lol.
can you let me of youre wheel gap measurements? i lifted mine and not sure how high i am as i lost stock specs after i lowered it.
The answer is yes. Japan only.
It's going to be a 400hp CVT
You better hope not 😭😭 gonna be gappin all the other VBs
@@HeavyMetalWRX they say CVT is the future....
Any electric/hybrid will be CVT
@@andrewmessina1927 Tesla does not use CVT
Hello! Does your WRX have any squeaks, creaks, or rattles?
Thanks! 😎
@@kelsey809 my WRX rattles and squeaks all over lol
my closest E85 gas tank is 53-56 miles one way (an hour drive), would you still do the E40 blend?
@@JoeyC-nr5yk I don't know if that's a great idea If you're looking for gas mileage but you could just fill up like a 30 gallon drum or maybe three or four five gallon buckets and then just have some gas to blend when you fill up at your 93 by your house.
@@HeavyMetalWRX i’m on a 91 tune by Graham. i will ask Graham but since you answer faster, do i need to change gas types from 91 to 93 when i buy Grahams E40 Blend? is E30 a possibility that i can achieve if i ask Graham? i’d rather do the E30 route if possible due to the distance of E85. Let me know what you’re thinking man! I also do plan on bringing E85 home for storage.
@@JoeyC-nr5yk you can use 91...you just add more E to make the blend.
@@HeavyMetalWRX ahhh, so switching over to 93 would make more since because you would be using less ethanol. My most important question, is an E30 blend a possibility you think?
@@JoeyC-nr5yk yea tuners cna account for any blend. Just work it out with Graham. It won't be an issue.
Man I hope this is legit, it’d be pretty cool
@@starrja I think they'll do it, it'll just be a super limited run as usual.
Man, If I had the money for a car like that, I would 100% get one. But, would be worth it to fly to Japan and have someone let you drive it for a sec. Would be lots cheaper.
@@johnmccombe6342 I have always wanted to go to Japan. This is yet another reason if it ends up being JDM only. Subaru needs to start sending me airplane tickets 😭
@@HeavyMetalWRX I totally agree! I just saw an article about a 600+hp midnight edition wrx. Would love to see your take in a video about it. Also, I have been looking into moving to Japan. Depending on what happens in 4 months will decide whether I move there or not. If I do, you got a place to stay when you head out that way!
@@johnmccombe6342 I'm working on this tonight!
@@HeavyMetalWRX awesome!!!
S models are modified STI s so it’s obvious that there needs to be a sti model first for these modified versions to be made.
@@gengiz technically they don't. Some of the S models (s207) as an example we're not based on the existing STI of that generation to begin with. That's the beauty of the STI division. They are not limited to what Subaru is doing and are not really affected by the CAFE since they are not mass producing vehicles. Of course we will just have to wait and see and I hope that we have good news and not bad news.
@@HeavyMetalWRX didn’t all the previous generation also have a sti model made in Japan for the later arrival of the “S” model ?
@@gengiz they did but they weren't all based on the STI. They were based on the chassis of that generation. Then STI put in whatever engine and parts they wanted. If you're referring to the transmission, STI could out in a TY85 if they want. In 2017 they took the VA , removed the EJ25 and put in an EJ20. Anything is possible for them.
OUT OF ALL THE #'S AND LETTER COMBINATIONS IDK WHY THEY HAD TO CALL IT AN S4..JUST SEEMS LIKE THEY COULD OF CAME UP WITH A BETTER NAME..JUST A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE SOMEBODY DOES A COMPARISON BETWEEN AUDI S4 AND SUBARU S4..PRETTY SURE THEY ARE AROUND THE SAME DIMENSIONS CERTAINLY NOT PRICE THO
An S car without the bulletproof STi transmission would be a joke.
@@Htown156 that's the great thing about the STI division. They can make anything regardless of parts. They've already built whatever car they want engine and transmission wise.
my build made them jealous .
If a $26k wrx is being sold for $40k.... an S210 is gonna be like 90k lol thanks biden... never in my life did I ever expect a 2024 wrx to cost more than what a brand new STI used to cost...
@ttis3701 really? You never expected inflation? Everything goes up, including wages.
@steve8803 from 2021 to 2022 a wrx went from $26k to $35k+... a 1 year increase of 34%... before Biden... according to the US Bureau of Labor and Statistics, annual inflation rates every year range between 1.9% - 2.4%.... Bidens build back worse plan has raised inflation rates annually of over 20%+... wages have not and will not ever come close to matching the economic inflation rate. So no I did not ever expect a $26k car in 2021 to be nearly $40k in 2022.
@steve from 2021 to 2022 a wrx went from $26k to $35k+... a 1 year increase of 34%... before Biden... according to the US Bureau of Labor and Statistics, annual inflation rates every year range between 1.9% - 2.4%.... Bidens build back worse plan has raised inflation rates annually of over 20%+... wages have not and will not ever come close to matching the economic inflation rate. So no I did not ever expect a $26k car in 2021 to be nearly $40k in 2022.
Steve, from 2021 to 2022 a wrx went from $26k to $35k+... a 1 year increase of 34%... before joe... according to the US Bureau of Labor and Statistics, annual inflation rates every year range between 1.9% - 2.4%.... his build back worse plan has raised inflation rates annually of over 20%+... wages have not and will not ever come close to matching the economic inflation rate. So no I did not ever expect a $26k car in 2021 to be nearly $40k in 2022.
@@ttis3701 incorrect. MSRP of a base 2021 wrx was $27,495. Base 2022 wrx was $29,605. Of course there would be an increase, it's a brand new generation that was upgraded in every way. Now, the base MSRP of a 2024(which has more features) is $32,735. The 2024 base comes with the upgraded 11.6" infotainment and also comes with eyesight driver assist technology, both of which the '22 base didn't have. And believe me, I am for Trump. But inflation has occurred in every country, not just the US.
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Its read s2-1-0 not s2-10
@@KengJeeThao I'm sticking with s2-10. Subaru go na have to sue me, brother 😂
@@HeavyMetalWRX 🤣
@@HeavyMetalWRX sounds like an old chevy truck!
2028 wrx 6:29 sti is coming back. yoda is doing a gr86 turbo/ hybrid (smiles for days). brz is dead. subaru knows what theyre doing.
The GR86 with turbo is NOT a production car.
WE.JUST.WANT.THE.STI.TRANSMISSION.
And lsd
bro, if it does itll be a auto or some shit. subaru lost touch with its consumers long ago
@@jameytinerella5095 ati has never made an automatic S model. This isn't up to Subaru. It's up to their STI division . The s4 comes in auto, not the s2xx.
not gonna happen just move on
Worst click bait channel
@@pl-boostcreep L O L. Worst? Our must have just gotten internet if you think THIS is click bait. Video i's actually based n. A real article in Japan 🤦♂️