Good to see you treat your kitchen like I treat mine. Nice and clean, but always worthy of propane torches, channel locks and a pile of arrows! Good work brother!!
I was trying to find a way to change out my inserts, so I can install heavier ones, but I wasn’t sure how to do it without damaging the carbon. This looks about as simple as it gets. THANKYOU so much for sharing!! 👍
I finally tried it, and it works fabulously. I did ruin The first arrow though. But that was my fault… I held the tip over the torch for too long. It melted some of the carbon from the inside. Lesson learned though I guess.@@tradbowpodcast
Freaking awesome. Purchased about 15 maxima and 12 misc carbons and they have inserts but we’re cut full length. The shop here is out so now I can remove these and have them cut down. Thanks bro!!!!
@Traditional Bowhunting And Wilderness Podcast do you use epoxy or hot melt glue? I do the same thing with epoxy. Years a go when first learning this technique I used to much heat and the carbon wrapping came out with the insert. So yes just enough heat to pull it out
Learned another great trick from the ranch fairy. Find a drill bit that fits in the shaft pull the nock off and slide the drill bit into the shaft and swing it. It will help knock out the insert.
Use blue cap G orilla Gel glue fir inserts ..Use acetone or goof off to clean inserts before gluing . Lightly sand the inserts with light grit paper ... Put glue on 3/4 towards front of insert .. Easiler to get out if glue is not at end of insert..
kxmix yes. That is the reason you want to do it this way is so that you don't over heat the carbon and ruin the shaft. You can reuse the insert and the shaft.
Best way I know how to do it. But its a balancing act. pull gently with the pliers every 10 seconds or so and when the heat has done its job the inster will come out.
If I heat the glue in order to rotate my broadhead/insert to line up with the fletching will the glue reharden or should I remove the insert and reglue it?
Yep learned that from the ranchfairy last year. It works great on normal inserts. On my double ones I custom make I still have to heat up. But thst drill bit method is excellent!
@@tradbowpodcast Cool thanks. I have some new GT arrows coming with the weight system and want to try a few point weight (FOC) options before I commit. Without the tool to insert the weights from the nock end, I need to be able to remove the points and change the weight. Thanks for the reply.
Not sure. I never used epoxy for inserts. I always gorilla blue impact resistant glue. I'd give it a try. Cone to think of it I do epoxy on my bowfishing points and I can remove them like this with heat. So I bet you can!
Traditional Bowhunting And Wilderness Podcast thank you for the advice. I messed up and somehow the epoxy got into the inserts so that the points cant be threaded all the way. Maybe i just used too much? Idk but im gonna try to remove them, clean it off as much as possible, and redo them.
Byron Saggese nope and to top it off, the points are now stuck in the threads about 3/4 of the way. Cant be unscrewed or screwed lol Lesson learned is to use less damn epoxy, and check it after application, before hardening to make sure its ok
Debates on using Acetone to soak carbon arrow but GT says its ok will not harm carbon fibers ... Avoid using drill bit inside and swing it will crack the arrow .. Better idea is rod thru nock area just smaller than dia of arrow and lightly tap with hammer while holding arrow.. Drill bit will mushroom the soft brass inserts ane split sides of arrow ... Using no heat is best way I like Acetone then use rod and punch out ....
@@tradbowpodcast I can tell , I do some carpentry myself and was thinking about building my cabinets rather than buying them too . Look great , just my style.
Can also buy a 8x32 screw and cut head off...Use soldering iron take our tip and put screw in.. Heat it fir 5 minutes screw it in arrow ... Insert should come out ... I use wet rag around insert to keep carbon arrow cooler ....
Just ruined a $15 arrow by doing this (except heating the field point outside of the arrow, installing it, and about 2-3 seconds later pulling out the point along with some carbon fiber). I’m not knocking this guy or the 12 other videos on TH-cam showing a variation of this method, but I’m just saying be sure of what you’re doing and be careful. (Might also be the way the CX Maxima Reds are constructed) (might also be my dumb ass but, for once, I don’t think that’s the case)
You didnt get it hot enough or allow a minute for the heat to sink into the insert all the way. I have had that happen a couple times as well. But there really is no other way to get the insert out.
The threads of the FP were just beginning to glow, had it in for about 3 seconds and began pulling, so it may not have been long enough. Also, I did not build the arrows initially so I don’t know what glue was used and that could have been a factor. But you live and learn; I just hope someone may learn “something” from my experience. Thanks for the input.
Heat only the field tip and give it time to let that heat sink into the insert and release the glue. Took me an arrow or to to figure out i wasn't waiting long enough for the heat to get from the field tip to the insert to the glue. And not sure how it works with all glues out there. Some are less heat releaseable than others.
I am not c ommenting to say this is not good idea ,I did it fir years .. Any heat will ma ke a carbon arrow brittle ...... Even hot water .... Acetone and long rod inside almost dia of arrow tapped lightly with hammer is way I do it ... Do not use drill bit idea it will crack sides of arrow and mushroom the brass insert ...
4years later and your video still helps, Thanks!
Awesome. Glad ypu enjoyed it
Good to see you treat your kitchen like I treat mine. Nice and clean, but always worthy of propane torches, channel locks and a pile of arrows! Good work brother!!
And my wife loves it when I take over the kitchen for hunting stuff...lol
5 years later and still helps. Broke the insert when sighting in my new phase 4 and had to find a way to remove it without damaging my arrow.
Glad it worked great for you
I was trying to find a way to change out my inserts, so I can install heavier ones, but I wasn’t sure how to do it without damaging the carbon. This looks about as simple as it gets. THANKYOU so much for sharing!! 👍
It works great and doesn't ruin the carbon like some other methods.
I finally tried it, and it works fabulously. I did ruin The first arrow though. But that was my fault… I held the tip over the torch for too long. It melted some of the carbon from the inside. Lesson learned though I guess.@@tradbowpodcast
Great info as usual. Google it and you came up again. You’ve given us so much valuable info.
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks.Exactly what I was looking for. Well done !
Quick, precise and sound advice. Thanks a lot!
Welcome. Glad you enjoyed it
Freaking awesome. Purchased about 15 maxima and 12 misc carbons and they have inserts but we’re cut full length. The shop here is out so now I can remove these and have them cut down. Thanks bro!!!!
Glad I could help
thanks for the great vid man. needed to cut down arrows and this worked perfectly!
Glad I could help
I needed this
Thanks a million! 🥳
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you so much I really needed this
Works great 99% of the time!
thank you for this
was able to reuse some good inserts from broken shafts
Awesome!
Thank you
Great tip! Thanks so much mate!!👍🏻🤙🏼🏆
Very welcome
Perfect!
@Traditional Bowhunting And Wilderness Podcast do you use epoxy or hot melt glue? I do the same thing with epoxy. Years a go when first learning this technique I used to much heat and the carbon wrapping came out with the insert. So yes just enough heat to pull it out
I use gorilla glue blue impact resistant. Works great. Yep its a fine balance with the heat and occasionally I still ruin a shaft or 2.
Awesome thanks
Smart, thank you!
Glad you enough it
So helpful. Thank you
Thanks
Learned another great trick from the ranch fairy. Find a drill bit that fits in the shaft pull the nock off and slide the drill bit into the shaft and swing it. It will help knock out the insert.
Great tip! What glue do you use to reset the heads?
Bohning hot melt glue to mount heads to adapters. Inserts to shaft I use gorilla glue blue impact resistant
thanks brother!!
Welcome
Use blue cap G orilla Gel glue fir inserts ..Use acetone or goof off to clean inserts before gluing .
Lightly sand the inserts with light grit paper ...
Put glue on 3/4 towards front of insert ..
Easiler to get out if glue is not at end of insert..
will you be able to reuse the arrow shaft? i bought some arrows but they are too long. i want to get them cut but also want to reuse the insert.
kxmix yes. That is the reason you want to do it this way is so that you don't over heat the carbon and ruin the shaft. You can reuse the insert and the shaft.
You're the man
Glad you enjoyed the video!
Can you remove nocks with aluminum collars from carbon arrows also…thinking Mission bolts or Excalibur quills?
I would imagine you could but never tried. It all depends on the glue they used
Does this method work with removing Easton HIIT inserts installed with the epoxy they provide with their inserts ?
No idea. Don't shoot those so never tried
thx!
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Use Acetone and soak the tip if arrows in Jar ...heat even hot water will make carbon brittle...
Then use rod in thru nock and tap our nit drill bit
Interesting. Might try that to see how it works
Use soldering iron with screw in the insert for soldering tip. Works a treat heats up fast and pulls right out no pliers.
fantastic tip! Thank you.
No pliers? How do you remove the hot insert from the iron 🤔
This method does work, but you still need to be careful because you can damage your arrow if you overheat the field point
Best way I know how to do it. But its a balancing act. pull gently with the pliers every 10 seconds or so and when the heat has done its job the inster will come out.
Will this work with AAE insert glue as well?
Never tried that glue. Do t know
If I heat the glue in order to rotate my broadhead/insert to line up with the fletching will the glue reharden or should I remove the insert and reglue it?
Reglue
Excellent question
I removed the nock and slid a drill bit in the shaft. You flick the arrow down and the drill bit works as a slide hammer and will release the insert
Yep learned that from the ranchfairy last year. It works great on normal inserts. On my double ones I custom make I still have to heat up. But thst drill bit method is excellent!
@@tradbowpodcast Fine if the knocks weren’t glued in lol.
But if it's super glued? I tried heating it but it got so hot even carbon got so hot but it won't come out.
Yep certain glues will hold almost too tight and not be heat reversible
I assume it works the same for glue in points. Do I need to use a small round wire brush to get out any old glue before reinserting new points?
Yep would work the same. Just be careful not to over heat the shaft. I do not use a brush to clean out old glue and never had a problem.
@@tradbowpodcast Cool thanks. I have some new GT arrows coming with the weight system and want to try a few point weight (FOC) options before I commit. Without the tool to insert the weights from the nock end, I need to be able to remove the points and change the weight. Thanks for the reply.
Will this work for if epoxy was used?
Not sure. I never used epoxy for inserts. I always gorilla blue impact resistant glue. I'd give it a try. Cone to think of it I do epoxy on my bowfishing points and I can remove them like this with heat. So I bet you can!
Traditional Bowhunting And Wilderness Podcast thank you for the advice. I messed up and somehow the epoxy got into the inserts so that the points cant be threaded all the way. Maybe i just used too much? Idk but im gonna try to remove them, clean it off as much as possible, and redo them.
vicwiz007 did this work with your epoxy?
Byron Saggese nope and to top it off, the points are now stuck in the threads about 3/4 of the way. Cant be unscrewed or screwed lol
Lesson learned is to use less damn epoxy, and check it after application, before hardening to make sure its ok
Victor,green cap gorilla glue gel is what I use ....
Any heat will ruin carbon shafts makes them brittle ....
Also buy small dia rod that will go thru hole in the front insert and you can punch your Nocks out just insert and tap out will come your Nock ....
Just to be clear, it is super glue with the blue cap made by gorilla brand correct?
Correct or green cap as long as it says impact resistant
@@tradbowpodcast thanks! Love the channel
Debates on using Acetone to soak carbon arrow but GT says its ok will not harm carbon fibers ...
Avoid using drill bit inside and swing it will crack the arrow ..
Better idea is rod thru nock area just smaller than dia of arrow and lightly tap with hammer while holding arrow..
Drill bit will mushroom the soft brass inserts ane split sides of arrow ...
Using no heat is best way I like Acetone then use rod and punch out ....
Heat had always worked great for me. Especially with my custom double inserts and both being glued. But I will try the acetone
Nice kitchen
Thank you. Built it all myself by hand!
@@tradbowpodcast I can tell , I do some carpentry myself and was thinking about building my cabinets rather than buying them too . Look great , just my style.
@@mossyhornhunter7022 thank you. Was definitely a much bigger project than planned, but aren't they all...lol
tnx o7
Can also buy a 8x32 screw and cut head off...Use soldering iron take our tip and put screw in..
Heat it fir 5 minutes screw it in arrow ...
Insert should come out ...
I use wet rag around insert to keep carbon arrow cooler ....
do you always leave this many comments?
Just ruined a $15 arrow by doing this (except heating the field point outside of the arrow, installing it, and about 2-3 seconds later pulling out the point along with some carbon fiber). I’m not knocking this guy or the 12 other videos on TH-cam showing a variation of this method, but I’m just saying be sure of what you’re doing and be careful. (Might also be the way the CX Maxima Reds are constructed) (might also be my dumb ass but, for once, I don’t think that’s the case)
You didnt get it hot enough or allow a minute for the heat to sink into the insert all the way. I have had that happen a couple times as well. But there really is no other way to get the insert out.
The threads of the FP were just beginning to glow, had it in for about 3 seconds and began pulling, so it may not have been long enough. Also, I did not build the arrows initially so I don’t know what glue was used and that could have been a factor. But you live and learn; I just hope someone may learn “something” from my experience.
Thanks for the input.
@@Petunia31 great points. I suspect another 30 seconds or minute would of let the heat sink all the way to the back of the insert to release the glue.
Just ruined 2 arrows doing this. 🤨😐😒 splintered the end of shaft...
Heat only the field tip and give it time to let that heat sink into the insert and release the glue. Took me an arrow or to to figure out i wasn't waiting long enough for the heat to get from the field tip to the insert to the glue. And not sure how it works with all glues out there. Some are less heat releaseable than others.
I am not c ommenting to say this is not good idea ,I did it fir years ..
Any heat will ma ke a carbon arrow brittle ......
Even hot water ....
Acetone and long rod inside almost dia of arrow tapped lightly with hammer is way I do it ...
Do not use drill bit idea it will crack sides of arrow and mushroom the brass insert ...