Dating women made me understand men
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ค. 2019
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Since coming out as bisexual last year, I've been dating women! And though dating is its own special adventure already, oddly enough, one of my key takeaways from dating women has been that I understand men a bit more.
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One quick note on this. The line I said "the amount of kisses promised didn't equal the amount of kisses delivered" can be interpreted as problematic and I want to clarify that ANYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO REVOKE CONSENT AT ANY TIME. I just thought it was a funny thing to say, and was bummed that we didn't make out cause she was very pretty & intelligent. However I am not entitled to anyone's body, and they are free to not make out with my face if they don't want to anymore. In this specific situation, I think we were both merely afraid to make the first move, but want to clarify for those who may take it in the way it isn't intended to be: just a funny little line I thought of.
The sad part is that you had to put this disclaimer for the minority of people who don't think you know what consent is. The rest of us get it. You made a joke. P.S. welcome to the darkside.
Now you experience the wlw problem of no one making the first move ever because women have been socialised to "be pursued" and not do the pursuing lest we be sluts.
My dating women made me realise what a low, low bar men have in a relationship (I.e. don't be an arse). My bar for dating women was much higher, until I realised this and adjusted my bar for men 😊
Because she was intelligent? Righhht..........🙄
Hi Anna, I'm glad you clarified it, even though I personally never felt that you honestly meant it in any problematic way. I decided to comment on it above, because it to me is an interesting topic that is both scary and tremendously important to show both or several sides of, and I'm glad that me and some of my fellow commentors are getting the chance to share our opinions on the matter.
You certainly shouldn't feel like you have to censor yourself going forward, just because one of your jokes sparked a discussion. Just the fact that you're willing to share some of your honest, spur of the moment feelings that might be thought of as questionable in hindsight, means that your channel is a space where you and your viewers can discuss complicated matters, even when there may be a bit of controversy. To me, that's beyond awesome and thank you for providing that! :)
@@EaglePlaneAnchor people can be attracted to other people just because of their intelligence or talent more than their appearance.
I went on a date with this one girl and she stayed on her phone the whole time. So I finished my food quick, Went to the register paid for my half of the meal and left.
That’s the way it should be done
My man !
LOL NICE ONE!! WHAT WAS HER REACTION!?😀😂😭😭😭
@@mel6548 didn't stick around to find out
You sir are a hero
Imagine what she will feel when she realizes the first time a man gets flowers is at his funeral.
Damn, this is profound
Dang bro, this stings
You just made me have a goal. When I date a man the first week of us being together id give him flowers. And occasionally do so.
@@mintycokies8057 u a keeper
Dude… that’s deep.
One experience was really funny. We sat down in the café and were talking, suddenly she says "sorry, you're not my type, I gotta go!". I was like, "uhm alright, no problem. I'll stay a little longer, I like the place". Suddenly she went from that to "uh oh, now I feel bad" I said "Oh, don't mind, it's totally okay". She stood up. Sat down. Stood up again. Looked inside her handbag. "I'll pay for everything!!!!". I said "You don't have to, I'll just relax here" 😂. Everything was so weird about it haha she was completely confused. Then she went out and I ordered something, I kinda felt funny, I was smiling all the time, because I couldn't grasp what happened.
Kudos to you for handling it the right way. Did she reach up o you later?
this is real taoïsm
What happened was that she was nervous, she felt a really strong repelling force but was also split between the social anxiety of being the pariah, and the maybe also regretting hurting you
That woman sounds honest and quite decent. She might be good for someone else. Better she told you right away.
@@arnavrawat9864 I feel like we've low-key normalized shallowness and snubbing people.
I'm a middle aged guy and I have a lesbian friend who is older than me and she has a lifetime of experience dating women. I really enjoy chatting with her because her stories of getting burned by manipulative women are basically the same as my stories of getting burned by manipulative women!
We're on the same team after all!
Probably similar for people who date manipulative men and get burned by them, though, right?
Women get burnt by manipulative men, too.
Lesbians who divorce (and there are a lot of them) list the same reasons for doing so that straight women do. It's just double the probability that one of them will feel that way.
Pro tip for dating women: if a girl turns you down because she's "too complicated for you," you dodged a bullet
Pro tip for dating women: if a girl turns you down, you dodged a bullet
@Fantassin de Guillaulme LOL
@Ed then my friend you still dodged a bullet as you 2 werent compatible. I agree with him, if your rejected it probably wasnt meant to be in the first place.
Pro tip: if you get turned down multiple times, you're in the Matrix cause only Neo could dodge that many bullets
Well said!!!
Two men on a date.
Check arrives.
Pays double.
“I got it bro”
“Nah bro don’t worry about it”
*riot breaks out*
The waiter would be so happy with the tip.
That sounded sexual.
Take it or leave it
@@yvngnova8949 man, that happens a lot in Canada lol
@Cameron Bell I know the feeling bro. He better stay down
A few years ago I started hanging out with a co-worker. It seemed like a normal platonic friendship at first but one day when we were streaming a movie together she put her head on my shoulder, totally unprompted. She stayed cuddled with me the entire movie. From that point she was texting hearts, always wanting affection and being very emotionally intimate. She told me she bought a blanket just for me when I came over. After a while though she started talking about a guy she'd been seeing from a dating app. When things came to a head she acted totally flabbergasted that I had thought we were dating or heading there, insisting that it was obvious her intentions were platonic the whole time. Despite the fact that she also said we couldn't be alone in her house or cuddle during movies anymore, making it pretty clear she knew that's not something you do with a friend when you're dating someone else.
Don't get me wrong. I've been rejected before by female friends that I thought might like me and were just being friendly. I know how to take no for an answer and some of my best friends are women I started out having crushes on but pivoted to friendship with. Of course the difference between those friends and her, are that those other friends quite clearly, yet kindly, told me they weren't interested in anything besides friendship and never crossed any boundaries beyond the platonic with me. I was sad they didn't like me back sure, but I at least knew where they stood. That was a good preview of how good of friends they turned out to be.
Her on the other hand, she basically treated me like her boyfriend until she found someone better. But she would only get defensive or angry when I told her that her behavior confused me completely refusing to validate my feelings. It really messed with my head, making me thing for a while that whenever I think someone likes me, no mater what she does, I'm wrong. It's probably not a surprise to learn that she was surprised I had a really hard time pivoting to platonic friends with her. Doesn't help that she wanted me to be her coach for this relationship and be her new boyfriend's best friend. It didn't work out and we don't talk anymore.
I really appreciate Anna expressing empathy for what men go through in the fashion she did. It can be hard to talk about this sort of thing without sounding like I'm trying to say "I'm a man who got rejected, so I'm going to say a lot of sexist crap now." That's not what this is at all. Women do absolutely get harassed by men who refuse to respect boundaries or accept a no gracefully far too regularly. in this world and its wrong. But I also can't deny that more than once in my own dating life I feel like I've been expected to read the woman's mind and punished for not doing so. And I know I was not given the language or context to understand how to talk about that confusing, self-esteem damaging feeling with other people.
Hey, the feeling confused after seeing her. Gigantic red flag. Either she's gaslighting you or not communicating her feelings or you are not asking for clarity. Whichever, the dynamic rarely changes. Bail out.
Nah cuh. Lift weights, get money, & don’t try with women. They will let you know clearly when they like you, but first, make yourself undeniable.
As a man, if you are not having sex with her you are not her boyfriend. You are her girlfriend.
Many women tend to do this then act clueless its straight-up weirdos behavior. Sometimes I wish I was straight.
Never have female friends. You're either banging them or you're not. If you're not and she's leading you to believe it will happen, get the hell out of there. She won't lead on the guy that she actually wants to get with.
You don't understand men, you understand what dating women is
No cap bro is spreading fact. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
You'll understand men when you go to bed at night wishing you had a girlfriend and imagining the sex with one... and then after imagining the sex you realize you don't really need one.
@@sublimehypocrisy How so
@@wilkizz why don't men hang out with women a lot? For most men, besides the difference in interests, we don't want to be distracted by lust constantly. It can be overwhelming. That's a major contributing factor to having a girlfriend. We sacrifice our free time and money and out effort into having a relationship because men need sex. Women seem to be able to be fine without it.
Most men would never entertain the idea of a relationship if sex wasn't on the table. The challenge is finding a woman we can handle being around a lot.
@@sublimehypocrisy What about ugly lesbians though?
I feel like she just used me for a free meal
All men in Ace Ventura voice: Reeeeaaaalllllyyyyyyy
Like a glovvvvvvvvvve
@@fixer1140 Allllllrigghty then
😂
That so true.
When the date ends poorly: "Down, Bubba!"
"I don't feel like she likes me for me, she just wants a boyfriend" oh the accuracy!
@Thelondonbadger 😂
And sometimes …. "boyfriend" = "boyfriend's wallet"
You can turn that around as well.
I didn’t get this one
Correction, she just wants a "guy friend". Aka he will have to stear clear if some other guy she likes hits on her and have to be a bodyguard if someone she doesn't like hits on her.
There's the initial hurdle of simply demonstrating that one's self isn't a threat, which is a hurdle that women don't have to jump.
The rates of abuse in lesbian couples is the highest of any couple pairings and its not even close. Girls are greater threats to themselves.
This goes hard
… have you thought about how women must be feeling to have caused men this “hurdle”?
@@illysrasputina leave it to women to make it about themselves.
@@tann_man no, i’m simply pointing out the false claim that this isn’t, “a hurdle that women don’t have to jump.” they do, just in a different way. a woman’s fear of being hurt is definitely an obstacle they have to get over for dating too, wouldn’t you agree?
"The amount of kisses promised were not the amount of kisses delivered" Men get called incels for comments like this. She at least has the option of going back to dating men.
She couldn’t even try to see things from a male’s perspective without having to literally experience it herself, so what makes you think she’d even be able to mentally process that double standard 😂
Everything is different when you don't have the option to opt out.
@@Tenrou2 i doubt anyone would get called and incel for this if the insinuation isn't incorrect. What she's trying to imply is that many women get shy out of the blue when they meet u in person. A man could perfectly say this, unless he's insinuating the girl HAS to kiss him. It's all about the tone.
@@Tenrou2 also.... do you have sympathy for every group in the world? because THIS is how people know empathy: by actually EXPERIENCING stuff.
@@pilipollo6193 empathy is not derived from experience
Gotta be honest, both girls sitting on the couch talking for hours waiting for the other girl to make the first move is funny as hell.
Yep.
xd
ikr like just do it yourself
Could you imagine how long it would take a lesbian couple to pick where they want to get food or anything really?!
@@BUSTERy going into assumption like: "all girls are the same" is not healthy and this is low key sexism
When you go out with the homies just to chill everyone pitches in and if one is broke at the moment we got him. That’s bro code
This is the way.
God dame right BRO CODE
51/50 we live by that. If I got it and you don't we both eat good. If you got it and I don't we still eating good. Shout out to all the homies that live like this. #SquadOverMoney Any day!
This is the most realistic dating females I have ever heard 😂😂😂
So anna aconda are you still dating women or did you go back to men? 😂🍪
As a lesbian I agree with all the points. Plus - couple of girls told me they are straight right after the date, they just wanted to get a free meal😂
Yikes, that's even worse than doing it to a guy; at least then there's a theoretical chance they could start to feel an attraction during the meal... 😄
1st date should be a shared bill, or flip a coin.
this is why none of yall get asked on real dates anymore. its either meeting for coffee or her driving directly to the guy's house to proudly objectify herself so she can complain about feeling objectified later. why spend money on wahmen who openly advertise the fact they are a terrible investment?
@@korganrocks3995 You know what they say, spaghetti is straight until it gets wet.
@@night1952you are a creep
I've been self-isolating for a decade, and then a woman pursued me for the last nine months and we started dating. It has been a cognitively dissonant experience. The first thing was asking them on a date, and when I used the word "date" they made it sound like I only wanted sex... this was after 9-months of them flirting with me and me slowly warming up to the idea of dating anyone at all in 10 years. I backed off for a few weeks and then saw them out again at an event and they were flirting again, and they were the ones pushing the sexuality onto our encounters, and my mind can't wrap my head around how to react to the hot/cold behavior. It is almost like they hate that they are attracted to me. I can't seem to find a way to get them to talk about anything relationship wise. They talk a lot about their boundaries, but then don't seem to see my boundaries as equal somehow. I have emotions and sensitivities like anyone, but I choose to lead with conversations with the intent of keeping things from being dramatic or hurtful. It feels like it's ok for them to want a "Daddy", but that I only get the make-up and sex in return and I need to feel guilty about it. I was never even asking for the make-up and sex... I literally want someone to talk to, cuddle with at the end of the day, and drink coffee with in the mornings... It seems so insane to feel trapped in some kind of gauntlet of someone else's projection and denial. I'm just a person.
You can be "just okay" on a few things like interests, personality, hobbies, etc. But on the essentials, you need to be in full agreement: boundaries, parenting, politics, religion, spending, and family. If you're not on the same track with those, respectfully cut off the relationship. It's better for one of you to get hurt now rather than later.
First, stop calling she by "they"...second, self-esteem. Good luck. Finding someone ir hard, but you need to find yourself first.
@@hellenmoreira9991 Why does it matter lol (the first part)
@@Peppertice it doesnt, literally every person on this earth has they/them pronouns, idk why hellen trippin
This comment was confusing with the pronouns, are you talking about the one chick you dated after 9 months or several chicks wtf
Just another example of: "Its not real until it happens to you." - Human Beings 101
Huge statement
Yep... the simple idea of putting yourself in the other person's position brings an epiphany of clarity. This should have been realized by women long ago!
@@jimnapier7087 never should expect anyone (male or female) to empathize in your circumstances. We are human. And she is still a women regardless if she sleeps with other women. She has the same tendencies and DNA imprint. They cannot empathize with our struggles just like we cannot empathize with their struggles. This is why I believe it is not coming from a genuine place. Even her disclaimer shows its in her DNA.
Cannot...stop...pounding...like button!
U preachin out here
"the amount of kisses promised didn't equal the amount of kisses delivered" haha I love this 😂
Now imagine a guy saying that, and watch all the alarm bells go off.
@@multeyemeteor ikr
multeyemeteor i don’t get why you’re mad about it? That’s literally at the bottom of the list on world problems
@@yayo0 Don't worry, I'm not mad about it at all. :)
[Warning: Wall of text incoming]
I can see how it could come off as that, but the point that I didn't make, but which kind of goes along with my comment is that, while (as a guy) it's great to see that Anna is acknowledging that empowerment isn't the same as equality, and that gender roles still very much exist in modern dating, but that we should also still be careful not to confuse expectations with entitlements.
And secondly that everyone here (including me) finds it adorable, when Anna said "the amount of kisses promised didn't equal the amount of kisses delivered", but if a man had said it, everyone here (including me) would find it borderline predatory. But there's no outrage in this observation, I feel everyone has the right to change their mind, as much as everyone else has the right to feel disappointed, as long as it stays at that.
It was just an observation, which I'm not entirely sure what to do with yet. :)
multeyemeteor in what way is it borderline predatory?
I think it’s even more difficult when she makes the same amount of money as you or more and expects the times to be “my money is my money and his money is our money”
Hypergamy is still baked in to the psyche of most females. Now that the sexes are on equal footing regarding jobs and income, the expectations have never been higher. Somethings gotta give.
That's supposed to just be during marriage :/ sorry you dealt with that while dating.
@@HiNinqi That's not even acceptable in marriage though.
Hardest lesson I had to learn as a man is that if a woman is actually into you, you don't have to try. She'll go out of her way to make time to see you, she will text you maybe TOO much, she doesn't care if you pay for dinner or you go dutch or the two of you trade off every other date because she's just happy to be there with you. She doesn't have to be convinced and massaged and maneuvered into wanting sex, she just wants it, and will often even *gasp* initiate it herself rather than waiting for you to make a move.
The thing that makes it confusing is how many women there are in this world that aren't into guys but will lead them on, for whatever reason. Money, an ego boost, someone to vent to emotionally, etc. I think a lot of women also do this weird thing where they look at a guy "on paper" and say well he has such and such a job and background and he's perfect boyfriend material, but they don't feel a strong sexual desire or romantic feelings, so they keep dating him in the hopes that those feeling "develop over time," which they NEVER do, meanwhile the guy knows after a couple dates if he's interested or not.
Best advice I could give any guy is that if you're not sure if she's interested in you or not, she's not. Toss her aside and move on as fast as possible.
Bro I'm living in that situation you describe about the woman waiting for feelings to develop over time. But as time goes on I feel she's just gonna leave me once somebody better than me shows up.
You gave a good advice, thank you
What’s so funny is that I’ve read like this exact same comment about women trying to understand dating men. Lmao
She missed the most important one.... having to be the one to ask the girl out and getting rejected.
had that my whole life, thats why i dont bother anymore
Bro its even worse when you’ve already smashed a girl; then she rejects you after lmfao. Then you’re like oh ok this was a 1 night stand my bad 😂😂😂
“Don’t even worry about it I’ll stop inviting you” 💔💔💔 🤧 *Cries*
@@doom-driveneap4569 if you bang a girl day 1 yall probably shouldn't date.
@@Gravy1255 you’re probably right but I was in love after a few hours lmaoo 😂
It wasn’t just physical though I was attracted to her personality too and she was cracking jokes making me laugh which girls never do so I was like oh this girl wifey lmao 💔💔💔
@@doom-driveneap4569 I guess she is a actually a nice girl but had some rough time lately and was just looking for some good time
"I spent a ton of money on MYSELF, therefore, you should buy me a meal." Yeah, yup. Goodbye.
"dO yOu KnOw HoW lOnG i HaD tO sIt ArOuNd FoR mY hAiR cOnDiTiOnEr To FiNaLlY aCtIvAte FoR yOu?!" 😜
@@livefreeprintguns LMAOO
Yeah I saw another comment like this and there were people trying to make it right lol. It’s never right and you can’t convince anyone it is.
"Bold of you to assume I don't do the same"
@BOW TO GOD JIHYO PEASANTS stop justifying it lol
31 male here. I've given up on dating entirely and I'm far happier for it.
"I spent all this money buying things for myself, so you should pay for my meal, too"
classic
Typical narcissistic women.
Just say you're broke. Ffs.
@@shanineedwards6894 just say you don't actually want equality, you just want the upsides.
@@shanineedwards6894 Why don't YOU say it, for once?
@@arkhanhind2613 Most of us are willing to take one or the other: traditionalism or equality. Just make up your mind, for God's sake.
"I feel like she just used me for a free meal"
Men: "only 1 free meal? You go off light."
Hell yes. I was used for a baby. Currently half way through 18 years of payments... 🙄
@@porticoman damn. That's sad..
James Franco: "First time?"
"You gotta pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers."
@@porticoman so glad i married a woman who can't get pregnant. still together 21 years later.
Dating for women is like shopping, dating for men is like a job interview.
This is soooo true
TAKE EM TO CHURCH 👌
LEMME GET AN AMEN!!!
That they pay for
In a way it is
Well, this is how human relationships go:
If you're only taking, demanding and complaining, and being ungrateful, it will end.
If you're grateful, give genuinely what you are comfortable giving, and say no when you mean it, then it might last and grow.
Put yourself first.
most sensible comment i read. its not about gender wars which is ultimately trashier but about human trash ppl who can be (fe)male
Exactly. I hate all these gender-based complaints about dating, there's all sorts of bad (and good) behavior from PEOPLE no matter what's in their pants. Instead of people just complaining about what people do when dating all day, people should talk about what's really cool when the other person does it in a dating-related situation
But really, some sort of social situation where basically it's expected that you'll become really important to each other "unless something goes wrong", and chances are if something "goes wrong" you tell your friends about that hi-la-rious anecdote as if you're on Seinfeld, that's just inherently going to be kind of toxic. Just get to know people as acquaintances, good acquaintances, friends, and if then you feel a mutual romantic/sexual attraction to each other, you can still act on that. Basically making the first dozen "dates" or so "friend dating" instead of "dating dating", and instead of doing some random formal stuff like going to a restaurant or something, it's sort of "just hanging out with a friend you really like", which will probably feel pretty good and relaxed
Dating women didn’t make you understand men. Dating women made you understand women.
...that so happens to also make it easier to understand men because it's all connected
this did not hit ngl
@@hauphan917 Men are easy to understand because they let you know what they want.
Women play this complicated game and then get mad at men for not understanding their highly confusing behavior.
One million videos where women tell guys why women do certain things. Maybe three videos describing why men do things. Click on them and they say, "Duh. He just told you why. Weren't you listening?"
Can't remember who said it, but there was a quote from years back "don't try to understand women. Women understand women and they hate eachother".
@@nelsonhibbert5267 Al Bundy.
Tip: Any girl that posts things on her social media such as: "If you cant handle me at my worst you dont deserve me at my best"..........Avoid. Run away like she were the black death itself
Any person, gender doesn't matter.
@@ceoatcrystalsoft4942 only women say that though
@@TopFlightSecurity415 Not true, I've seen bum guys say it, but it's much more prominent from girls
@@TopFlightSecurity415 true😭😂
@@hyrulehero-nz2jv i havent
"Doesn't offer to pay"
"Doesn't say thank you"
"Never hear from her again"
This is just too perfect
This is one of those moments where I understand why old bitter guys in literally every facet of life laugh at the newbie who got the same treatment they did
The holy trinity of dating gold diggers
Lmfao she’s only felt 1% of what men feel . Let that sink in.
When u get this kind of one-sided interactions, be rude! Express her or his faultiness or live with the leash/ an imbalanced relationship without a clue for happiness!
Lol
One of the few things that made me stay with my gf, currently my fiancé was:
On our first date she demanded me to take her to a vegan restaurant. I thought "cool a girl that knows where she wants to eat out".
There, I thoroughly disliked almost everything in the menu, I only order myself some fries and passion-fruit juice, since it was the only thing that looked "edible", to me.
We had a good time despite that, we talk and connected.
When it came the time to pay the bill she grabbed the bill and said:
"Look, I saw you barely ate anything, let me pay this one to make it up for you."
Those words, are still stuck in my head to this day, +8 year and counting, and It was at that moment I said to myself, "She got me good".
People won’t remember how they make you feel, but they will remember how you made them feel.
Creating an opportunity for them to see/feel how you see/feel things is the best tool.
How could we do this?
It's insanely complicated (due largely to how sercomstances play a large role in it) and has a high chance of backfiring.
“We girls spend our investments on makeup clothes, etc, looking good for you!”
Also girls: “we aren’t wearing makeup and dressing for others we are doing it for ourselves!!!”
Oof. Too loud
You hit the nail on the head with that observation!
So true 😆
she was talking about on a date, not in regular life.
Correction one girl this is one girl
So you’re telling me to date dudes too for me to understand women?
Lmao 😂😂😂
Yes I would download grinder if i were you
Theoretically yes that would work.....but you'd have to be bisexual. If you don't though just look at other people's perspectives and advice and have a open mind as to how it would theoretically feel.
... why don't you give it a try. This would be interesting to hear about.
@@zsurvivalist7996 exactly. I've never dated a guy but I've analyzed situations involving both myself and not and put myself in their place and just really thought about how would I genuinely react. Changes your life man.
"I spend hours and money on preparing myself for you".
Don't women usually say "I'm prettying myself up for me, not for you"?
dude this is a weird new wave trad wife thing people have been saying
For someone who has never "dated" in my life (I live in Sweden, so I guess the culture difference is massive)... I feel like "dating" in itself is quite unnatural to humans. It's like a social game/experiment which is mostly about decipher other person's expectations in a socially constructed environment. Personally I have never felt alienated towards women. I can be friends with women without sexuality being a part of the relationship. So what has happened for me is that you socially meet people throughout life. If you like one another you start hanging out like you would any friend (without the expectation of dating) and if there's a spark or interest between both parties, there's a pretty obvious tension in the air and when this happens it naturally leads to a first step and the start of a relationship... No restaurants, no flowers, no chocolate or any socially constructed ways to go about it. Instead we are just humans in our natural state, falling in love with one another. In the US I feel like there's a huge barrier between men and women, which makes natural interactions between the people of opposite sex sexual in its nature. Here I have no issue with my partner visiting a male friend, and my partner never have any trouble with me visiting a female friend... there is a natural trust and understanding that we are exclusive, and that interacting with the opposite sex doesn't have to be sexual.
I live in Sweden too, and didn't go on an official date until I was 29, for the same reasons as you. It did feel kinda unnatural, and after a few dates we both realised that we weren't compatible at all, and I'm pretty sure we'd have realised that a lot faster if we'd just met naturally and hung out without expectations.
I've never felt so identified with a comment.
@@korganrocks3995 Dating was never really a thing in Sweden until Tinder came around, and it still isn't really how we prefer to establish romantic relationships.
Huh, yeah I suppose maybe with the US being much more puritan, that could explain a bit about that
For the record I'm from Germany
You had me at the first part. The seems more genuine. But there's no shortage of platonic interactions here. The real difference seems to be that in your country the platonic and non-platonic interactions are much more similar.
Girl: dating women is so hard
Guys: did you just understand me?
More like
Guys:" Modern women are still capable of empathy?"
king_ Tesseract they lost it during evolution
@@5Gen I'm sorry, I have to do this.
*per se
It is a Latin term that means 'itself' ' or more modernly, 'intrinsically.' Just wanted to let you know since you did use it correctly.
@@5Gen Thats probably where my problem comes from, I don't mind doing most things but I need my companion to be able to do some things herself. (Coming from a house hold where no one knew anything and kinda just complained for things to happen save my Ma who honestly had the pants in the family lmao)
I’m the thousandth like this feels so special
2 very important rules guys
1. Never take a woman out on a dinner date on the first date.
2. Don't forget rule 1.
Use to do that not no more it's coffee dates on the first date only now. It's alot better, makes me wonder what I was thinking back then
Yep, I've learned that lesson the hard way. One time I paid for $130 dollar dinner bill, and my part of it was less than $20, while listening to her complain and be abusive to the wait staff, then she says she wants someone who makes way more money than I do.
Other times I've made reservations at a place for a first date. And more than once I've been stood up, and had to be humiliated when she doesn't show up.
Lessons learned the hard way.
@@jimmyboy131 Yea, women don't appreciate good men. Men have to vet and screen for a women nowadays. I find that online dating is trash and meeting women in person is better. If they are 29+, walk away. Trust me, it's not worth it.
@@blackonblack...9244 Online dating is horrible, I agree. I'd say at least 90% of the ones I contact are frauds, are just looking for money or sex (I'm looking for a real relationship), and it's very discouraging. (yes, getting laid is pretty easy if that's what I'm after, but it's not)
Well, I'm nearly 50 so meeting younger women in person, in today's society, is pretty much impossible unless I want to be instantly labeled a creeper, regardless of my manner and character. And meeting women my age in person, while easy to do, is another bundle of issues that I won't go into here. So the only real option I have is online dating, which, as I mentioned, is very discouraging.
@@jimmyboy131 online dating is pointless. It is 50% hookers, 30% bots and the last 20% want chads. If you are not a chad just throw it away.
You don’t have to be bisexual to understand these issues, just self awareness and social awareness. 🙂
well thats the issue...most women have poor self awareness about themselves
LITERALLY it's all in the brain LMAO
To be fair, a lot of people have blind spots to their own questionable behaviour that they don't even realise is questionable until they end up on the receiving end. Not necessarily dating related, just in general.
Real
People lack this so much in the world it’s sad because you’d think it’s common sense lol
It's so weird to me how society pushes the idea of spending so much money on people you don't know, people you can't be sure you will click with it. It drives me crazy. Parents, friends, girlfriend of 5 years - I can understand that. But with your new date? You don't even know if there's gonna be a second date! Why would you spend 50 bucks on her?
That's why 1st date should be all about being cheap, fun and allowing you to get to know each other.
You've barely scratched the surface. The rabbit-hole goes deeper than you can ever imagine.
Its like alice in wonderland
I dated alice
Im dead is true tho
Tadgh Smith I’m high and this slaps.
Rest assured, I’ve been there as well.
Don't take a girl to dinner on a first date, go for a coffee.
I drink 🎗☕🇺🇸 Black Rifle Coffee Co... no go for coffee 🙄... maybe with someone I knew & needed to kill time...
THIS
Rebis some girls will be grateful and remember to say thank you.
@@briannalee1998
Not overly fond of this. Guys are getting told to treat women two different ways.
Treat women as equals!
But you should still treat them differently when it benefits women.
I also don't buy Anna's "We spend time to look pretty so you should pay for dinner" rational.
The whole thing makes it seem like I have to pay for a women's time.
Yep. I feel like a first date should be getting to know someone, NOT impressing. I'd never dress up for a first date because I feel it's fake. You're putting on this persona that isn't you on a regular basis.
There's a woman named Norah Vincent who wrote a book about her time undercover as a man. It didn't go well. She came away from it saying that her self-esteem will never recover.
Gotta be one of the best titles for a book ever.
"Self-Made Man"
Very interesting author. She also wrote a book about mental health called "Voluntary Madness" in which she personally admitted herself for psychiatric "help" into 3 different mental health facilities to see the differences in care.
That one... might have done her in. She struggled mentally ever since and when Switzerland legalized assisted suicide, she was among the first people to do it.
The idea of two women going on a date and just staring at the check is lowkey hilarious 😂 almost as funny as her not paying when SHE asked YOU out 💀
"I Don't Know" = Most women's favorite restaurant.
I'm also indecisive as hell
I'm a woman and your joke is funny af 😂
You should open that restaurant... I'd go there every time she says, "I don't know..."
Well in my case i just wouldn't want to go somewhere that he wouldn't like ya know? Like oh what's your fav restaurant? Oh its a chinese one - oh i don't like Chinese
@@xokelis0015 if someone actually made a restaurant with this name they would make bank. The complete trolling and irony would be great !
The EGO to suggest that looking nice for a man is PAYMENT😂😂
Maybe if men weren’t so blatantly shallow
@@Alexis_005 ????? nice generalization dunce
@@Alexis_005 found a feminist, lmao
@@Alexis_005 ? Tf
Alex is a troll
I went on a couple of dates this year. The first movie date I went on, the guy just walked right up and paid without asking. It was a kind gesture, but it made me feel riddled with guilt because I felt zero spark. The next time I went to a movie with a man, we covered our own costs. I felt way better about it and enjoyed myself more because I didn't feel any pressure. Women who expect to be paid for are treating men like objects. It's no different than the feeling of when you think someone is talking to you only for your looks. Both genders use each other, unfortunately. (This does not include everyone, of course.)
Yeah, when it's transactional it feels wrong.
This is such a hard topic. I think most guys have at least once experienced both not immediately offering to pay and offending the girl, and offering to pay and offending the girl.
Healthy people can overcome this with one conversation. And it should really be that easy. But even when you have reached that point it will always be a weird moment.
So, you are not having children. Cats?
cats are infinitely better than a man@@andrewprior5080
@@peacefulwarrior9518 It's always 50/50. The same effort shows the same interest and desire. A relationship can't last if one of the parts don't show desire and effort.
If she doesn't have money we can always do another activity. We all want to love and be loved in good and bad situations, not only if we have money.
Glad it's not just men noticing these things about dating women lol - the ghosting, the free dinner, the don't call only text, the "I have other guys lined up this week"
Women: "I dress like this for myself, not for the attention it gets me from men"
Also Women: "I put all this effort into looking nice for you so you have to pay for the date"
Also Also Women: "You can't have any expectations about where the date will lead physically, but I have expectations about who will pay for the date"
Women want to have it both ways, and are offended when you point it out.... so much for female logic. Men are more rational and willing to compromise... women want it all. You've been warned...
Both of you nailed it.
Sounds like patriarchy for me hehehe
@amanda pham you probably scream every time you look in the mirror
On a date it's for the person they're seeing you dumbass. They only say the first part when they're harassed by ugly guys. Moronic comment
Its about time women began to realize that women are not saints.
Saints? You got to be kidding me. My mother married virgin and she is not a saint. Girls nowadays? lol
I'm not sure she realized anything. Right at her first example she says Women put on makeup and look nice so that's why guys should pay. Now that they're both women NOW she doesn't get why she should pay. But she didn't learn anything, because going back to dating guys she'll just jump back to her logic of guys pay cause the women take longer to get ready and look good for the guy. In other words rather than saying she's changed, she instead justifies her Old logic.
LOL Women already know way better than men how women are not saints.
@@kraven4444 Actually she said that's what she Used to do/say. Lol
Blake Bridges Is it appropriate that when I clicked the thumbs up on this, it was the six hundredth and sixty-sixth like?
I'm in my late 20s and don't get asked out on dates the way I used to. I think there comes a point in time where guys get tired of chasing after women who aren't interested. Or paying for dates that lead to nowhere.
You don't understand men, you just understand women a little more than you did.
Men are easy to understand period
Wait until you hear "Thank you for dinner and drinks. You're a really nice guy. But..."
Rs
Lmao real
Hit me on a spiritual level
Oh don't get me started on that bullshit. OH HELL NO!!!!!!!!!
*Vietnam flashbacks*
After talking about paying on dates. I sent a message to my date that I am thankful that he paid for it and now I will be more aware about it.
And that will make a big impression on him. You will stand out in his mind. Men like to feel important and appreciated too.
👏👏👏
Take this like
Viktorija Putriute I always do this even if I don’t like the guy and with my girlfriends. It’s a great gesture.
So you didn't even thank him for paying for your food in the moment it happened? wow.
Wow she casually said that she spent money on make up so men should should pay for her food
And it wasn't even sarcasm
As a man I would feel a bit better paying if that was a reason given, instead of just that "it's expected of men"... But in any case it's a bad deal for women because they're basically saying they're for sale...
Honestly... as a girl who doesnt even wear makeup... I kinda get it. That stuff is expensive, and getting dressed, travel, accessories, all that stuff costs money. A lot of friends have told me then spend hundreds of bucks a night going out with a dude just based on looking good and trying to impress them. I dont think men should have to pay for dates, I think it should be even... but also, I see what she meant.
@@gabrielathomas4783 but dont girls say that "We put on makeup for us, not to impress men"?
@@aesma2522 If you have to pay for a woman then she's clearly a prostitute.
@@hentaiprotagonist392 True true, but... in this context, for dating they do. When they go out to a club or a bar, they are just getting ready for the sake of getting ready. But when you go to a scheduled event, it makes sense you would prepare for that event/ person. Does that make sense? Like if you go to work everyday, you may wear a suit and tie because of the dress code and other people. But if you were going to a fun party, you might wear a suit and tie so you feel better and cooler when youre there.
I am so glad that I found someone before getting into the dating scene cause it just sounds like trouble trouble trouble for everyone involved good lord
Anna: Now I understand men
Men: *singing* We're all in this together!
Trying to find a good name for this
Lmfao 🤣🤣🤣🤣😭💀⚰️
😅
High school musical lmao
I see Warframe reference
A female friend of mine recently told me she was going out with 3 dudes at the same time, saying she was just indecisive and enjoyed the free meals.
She then told me how upset she was that one of them had started hooking up with another girl.
She’s since committed to one of them, but the double standards were real.
Tell that man to grab his money and run.
As an Uber Driver recently pick up a girl who's have a serious discussion with her ex through her phone. She said after the call the world had given priviledge to men but it's changing for equaility. I agreed. She continued saying she was tired of trying hard to have a heatlhy relationship because the majority of men won't worth it. And then finished saying that she's choosing the guy she'll go out at the weekend because she was very stressed with her job and do not have money to go to a nice place. I remained silent because tell her some truth will give me a one star on app...
@@rafaelrp07 your comment was really funny 😂😂😂
@@rafaelrp07 What country was this?
rafaelrp07 smart move lol
Experiences that expand our compassion and understanding is definitely worthy of sharing and taking note of. Thank you for sharing your experiences. It's great you learned about this and that you're being positive and that you are taking lessons from these moments. That's good. Not everyone does that and we ought to do so. I know I have tried to see everything that happens as a lesson. Because there is always something to learn from each one. I learned one from this one. Thank you Anna. Keep up the great content.
I had a relationship that lasted like 3 weeks and I'm positive that the only reason she asked me out is because she didn't like the idea of being single on Valentines Day.
I always ask pretty girls at the bar to buy me a drink.
It never works and but I think it’s funny.
True story, I was driving with my friend and saw two girls hitchhiking, so I flip them off because of "equality"
So my friends sees them and says "HEY, TWO CHICKS! STOP THE CAR!"
I kept driving, and he says "why are they giving us the finger?" LOL
I read about a girl who was around 23? when she first realized that some women pay for stuff in bars or restaurants. It had never happened to her to have to pay.
LEGEND
@@atpcliff Well 23 is a woman's age of peak fertility; which is not coincidentally why Playboy's "Playmate of the Year" are typically that age, and the average age of marriage is no later: since men are hard-wired to spot the outward signs of this in a woman's face and body, and be most attracted to it.
So it looks like she came late to the party.
I'll buy you one if you buy one for me. Quid pro quo, baby.
Did not even think you were making a sexual pun, since you know your a crazy cat lady.
@@isabellajohnston1923 but she is crazy for cats.
you’re*
And she didn't use the p word
Wesly Vargas you’re**
@Pip Jackson There** grammar** you're*** it's**
"Women and children are loved unconditionally. Men are only loved under the condition that they provide something" - Chris Rock
rubbish
No one is lived unconditionally, in some cases children but for the most part no one
True👍
I notice it in daily life.
The problem is how many things women feel entitled to because of simply being a woman.
Men chase woman not because the woman is a shining jewel, but because that's how the man sees them, so it's what they do.
@@danielmaster8776that's what they stop to do, to get rid of the low standards
same as men I would say men are more entitled which may turn violent as documented by statistics
because men value the wet hole, that's the only reason really
Date Tip: Show her your Bionicle collection. If she’s willing to go on another date with you she’s a keeper.
Friend tip: slap your friend if he still has Bionicle, and tell him to get into gunpla
I lost all my Bionicles...
How do you get in your house on the first date tho
Until she takes the Bionicles in the divorce.
Jri Sparks Ask her, “Wanna see my Bionicles?”
"I don't want to understand women. Women understand women and they hate each other."
-Al Bundy
Blue pill cope. Women have an own group preference. Plenty of studies prove it. "Women are wonderful effect", "automatic in group bias".
this 100%
Wow that is well said.
@Angry Vegan Cyclist They don't hate each other more than they hate men. Women give other women preferential treatment. They emulate child behavior because they know it triggers men's white knighting / protecting instinct (especially if they're simps) and because they're lazy / incompetent and need a man to do it. I believe women are far more competent and logical than they seem. All these clueless men arguing about "female logic" don't understand that women don't care about making sense, and they use words as magic spells. It's just that women care about themselves more than everything else, including their own children
The misunderstanding is a Evolutionary Pro-Creation trait lmao
Im sorry you have had to go through this to see what we suffer from. Thank you for shedding light on this from your perspective it is greatly appreciated.
I respect and appreciate both your message and your delivery. I've literally felt all of these things many many times, and I always feel like I'm not even supposed to tell these things to female friends for fear they will decide it means something negative about me. I've even gone on multiple dates with the same person without getting so much as a kiss before they dipped out entirely. I agree that nobody is entitled to anybody's body, but if you're going to allow someone to continue to take you on dates, the least you can do is express boundaries or goals or where you hope your interests will take you, etc. I have often felt used for my money, and rarely valued for being who I am. Dating feels like I have to prove my worth more than showing someone my quality as an individual, and it hurts.
I love when girls say wearing make up and clothes is their "contribution" to the date. Like presenting your best when you are on a date isn't just basic and is on both ends.
I pay money for myself to look good so you need to spend money on my food
There no basic respect amongst these females
Plus she just objectified herself with that statement.
Exactly. Men also pay for their nice clothes, haircuts, they take time grooming their hair and their facial hair, and spend money on quality colognes, beard oils, etc. Presenting yourself well isn't "your contribution to the date". It's for making a good impression on your date.
@@diogenes8272 Don't forget working out and going to the gym for a aesthetic physique.
lol girl that is just the demo wait for the full package with hits like :
- I cheated on you and it was your fault.
- I will be angry all the day and never tell you the reason.
- My best friend partner does (insert X) for her.
- I will give clear hints that im totally into you and the next day treat you as a total stranger.
And my favorite:
- I don't want to be with you but also don't want to see you with anyone else.
You forgot about he zodiac girls, gotta watch out for them
You forgot: "but you make more money than me, why should i have to help with rent?"
I got the first one.
Some of this stuff is actually more common of guys, but I think you're just describing sucky people.
Luis Ah, track 5. That takes me back to high school
When ALL men say something.
Just maybe you can just believe it..?
No
Fun Fact: The number of Lesbians divorcing is actually very high
“My investment is looking pretty for you, therefore your investment should be paying for my meal.”
soo... you are objectifying yourself?..
The irony, right. This proves that women just don't care about logic. If they did they would see where this point leads: your an object to be consumed (viewed) for pleasure, therefore...
@@abasis.baruti9819 yup, women, or at least “feminists” only want equality when it benefits them
There's some kind of soft prostitution going on there
@@nob0ddy390 And they love objectifying and degrading men.
@@abasis.baruti9819 I hate the logic. I will spend hours trying to come up with an argument that doesn't have any logical holes. Then they come in just spitting the first thing that comes to mind at a person and expect them to concede.
Just wait, soon you'll get hit with:
You: "Where do you want to eat?"
Them: "Anywhere is good."
You: "Okay, we'll eat at _______."
Them: *passive aggressive sigh*
@Thelondonbadger I wish I knew how true this was.
I just stopped giving them a choice. It made it easier on me. I got to eat what I wanted to eat and they got to go out to dinner and have a free meal. If they paid or did half that was a bonus (most women I dated did). Women hate having to make decisions, for whatever reason that may be. So take their agency out of the equation in that instance and take them where you want to go.
😂😂😂😂
Dcftomm i was gonna say something to agree but your comment made my laugh xD lol props
Thelondonbadger make sure you have no ice cream so that you get them under control anyway they don’t make the decisions around here
One of the things i dislike is the dismissal we get from women who have it easier when it comes to dating or anything in general
Its just sad that it comes from my sister as well
Real talk, it’s funny how she thinks the fact that she spent all the time talking upstairs was the other girls fault 😂😂.
Just wait till she ghosts you only to reappear when she sees you talking to other girls
or dumps you for someone she thinks is better only to come back after you when they dump her for someone better XD
@@Redd_Nebula That's when you hit her with the "cry me a river"
@@pandawarrior218_8 I did, there are too many guys with no self esteem that would take her back if they were in my position though :/
this is golden
Yup love that move. And then I say new phone who dis?
I once dated a girl that made fun of me for having “childish” hobbies. I first didn’t think much about that fact but soon she started make fun of everything I said (even if the things I told her were like absolute 100% facts!) At that time I thought she was just innocently pranking me. But then I noticed that every time we meet she uses any excuse to joke that I was dumb and she is smart. Then I got to know she was really insecure about her not being able to finish college and working as a cashier while me being a university graduate and working as a software developer. Needles to say I got fed up with her attitude and dumped her.
Right now I’m married to the love of my life - and she is a huge nerd for lego and Warhammer 40k just like me.
What I got out of my bad experience in dates - don’t waste your time on people that don’t want to respect your hobbies!
Somehow I knew, instantly, when I read 'childish' it would be 40k. No shame, obviously, Warhammer is life.
@@crowlypa
For the Emperor! lol
Lego and Warhammer 40k? Holy shet that's a double bonus
@@dantesparda4493
Yup! Exactly!
Also we play as a team in overwatch and in HOTS (it’s like dota only by Blizzard)
Mate The Emperor protects !
My suggestion for dating is plan something that you already want to spend your time doing and invite the people you're interested in to go with you. Think of it as hanging out with a friend but maybe you're interested and maybe they are too! Maybe not. Put zero pressure or expectations on either of you. Just repeat that process.
Feels like hearing a teenage boy realizing that girls are also people, just like him
Girls: this is so hard!!
Boys: *this is normal.*
This isnt even half chub
-Ghandi
Not normal, easy
True.
Man learns to endure. Women find someone who will do for her
@@haroldlemar5569 i meant its normal for a man to have it tough when dating, one mistake and boom ur dumped
@@SebastiansSebastian-fc4pj ahh yes, the same Gandhi who nuke my country to oblivion in the late game
I'm uncomfortable with the hypocricy with being dumped in relationships. Rihanna (who I adore) unceremoniously dumps her rich boyfriend because she was 'bored' and she recieved praise online, she's a KWEEEEN. But if a guy dumped his gf suddenly because he too was 'bored', he would be labeled an emotionally unavailable man with a lack of empathy by these same insecure women 💁🏾♀️🙃
Yup
Couldn't have said it better myself, we should all be equally accountable to our actions, and nobody should band together cause they are the same gender/race etc, Rather, based on the charactor of their heart
@@connorhood6490 perfect world talk right there
@@mirrorflame1988 In truth, Christianity without the occult knowledge of their time is total falsehood.
The solution is to stop caring what other people think of you.
This is that one “I get it” Danny DeVito meme
“And my argument against why guys should pay for dates is like, look, girls take hours to get ready. Our investment is looking really nice for you.”
*Ah yes, spending a couple hours to put chemicals on your face and deciding what to wear so people don’t judge your looks is definitely the same amount of work to having a miserable 9 to 5 office job day in and day out so you can pay with what little money you made on a girl you’ll probably never see again.* 😂
To be honest, this is miniscule compared to what men really have to go through.
Exactly
Like having to be the one to ask out the other person instead of being asked out
Ikr she thinks she understands but if anything she’s even further away because she thinks she’s worked it out
The fact that she still believes that her preparation in her looks for the night are equal to the man paying for dinner. Gtfoh
But she is still learning.
I don’t care how many hours they take to get ready, it took me hours to make that money I’m using to pay the bills!!
This right here is facts. For me, a $50 tab at a restaurant is just over 4 hours I had to work to earn that money. $40 at a movie theater is another 3 hours and 20 minutes at work, so right there, just one night of dinner and a movie is basically an entire shift at work to earn that money to take her out on a nice date. Oh, she had to spend 3 hours getting ready? Aw, that's cute...
Jermani Eaves we’re twins
I also spend a considerable amount of time getting ready for a date and make sure im presentable. Its not three hours but a forty minute shower, thirty minutes ironing and making sure shoes are brushed and polished is still time i could have used elsewhere. You can have a workout, cook a full meal or get some serious work done in that time.
Facts 😂😂
Right? That line alone demonstrates how this female didn't learn half about men that she is claiming to have learned.
Libertarians: There is no free meal!
This one girl: Hey do you wanna date me?
I wouldn't have had a problem with the joke you describe, hell I've made a few of them myself from time to time and now you've got me worrying they were a mistake. To me it reads as a compliment and a positive signal that so far she's pleasantly surprised at how compatible you're turning out to be and if the feeling is mutual that's great! If I was told something like that I'd feel encouraged that things are going well and there might be a chance for something special to spark.
I knew my girlfriend was a keeper when I asked her out for our first date and she said “that sounds great but I am broke right now, how about next week?” Lol
Mutated Pearl lmaoo
8 years and still gong strong, she is my best friend and I love spending as much time with her as I can 😁
Aww 😍
give her a big hug from me. She's financially and emotionally stable marriage material and that is rare. If you want you can grab her butt during the hug. up to you.
@@chrisl7228 marry her bro
When she waits till your birthday to tell you she found a new guy and that she's been upset about something for six months and that it's your own fault for not seeing the signs.
too specifc, are you okie?
Ouch
RIP mans
I feel you dog
Y on ur birthday specifically tf
I'm reminded of something that 50 Cent said on the Stephen Colbert show at some point. When asked who should pay for a date, his answer was "Whoever had the idea to go out on the date in the first place." Which to me seems fair. If I ask you out, then yeah, I should pay. If you ask ME out, then you should pay. If we agree to go Dutch, cool, I'm down for that too, but without that being established, I think the 50 Cent rule is a pretty good standard to use.
the kissing was too relatable
When you said guys should pay the bill because women spend a lot of money on makeup and getting ready, all I thought about is how men spend tons of money on nice cars so you'll be attracted, we buy flashy clothes, nice shoes, watches, hell we even get nice phones because girls aren't into guys with flip phones because it screams they don't have money. There are a ton of things men pay for so you'll go on the date to begin with. If you want us to pay the bill, it's gotta be a good excuse instead of "I put make up on, buy me stuff"
ALL they have are their looks. What are they if they don't have that
Yup. The most attractive women want to benefit completely from their looks, but then not also be objectified for them and desired primarily for sex when that's really all most of them actually have to offer. Can't have it both ways, honey.
Guys with flip phones have the most money. They don't spend it on phones or on women.
It’s true, a lot of guys are happy with just a t shirt and some comfy pants. But girls are more likely gonna go for the guy wearing the expensive clothes.
There’s also guys who put a lot of time into their look as well though.
@@jefferyhall1646 yeah flip phones for that dealer cash
Woman: “I spent hours to get ready”
Man: “I spent hours to make the money for the date”
Difference is you still have the clothes and makeup after the date is over!
oof
As if men didn’t bought expensive clothes and perfumes etc
@@matheus_ps What is that "etc" you are talking about? My late husband used smells when he gone to work as when he dated me. He wakes up, takes a shower, brush teeth, combs his hair and puts up a smell of some sort. The only difference was that he dressed better and we had fun together. I did much more for my date with him. He looked almost the same as every day.
@@Zerg435 dont care plus you are a woman
@@matheus_ps your saying that you let the girlfriend pay the bill?idk man if you guys were eating at the Mcd for your date,I wouldn't complain..
Anytime you can expand your empathy and perspective it's a good thing.
Thinking that women shouldn't pay because they "invested" a lot getting ready for the date is one of the stupidest things i've ever heard.
What else do you males even do if you can't make money
@@Erirytyrir u a real woman
Classic “can’t understand another person’s perspective until it happens to them” scenario.
Wahmens = Solipcism
you can`t really blame her cause she was woman since birth
@@ZhangLee. And what about responsability and accountability ?
We are also mens since birth, it does not give us some free pass. It should be the same for whamens.
Well yeah. That's how it works. You can be sympathetic, but can never be empathetic until you yourself are in that situation.
@@atafmaalaoui4761 a free pass for what? Not understanding the other person's side?
It's very difficult, especially in a different gender relationship, to be empathetic to each other's expectations. Just as a woman cannot understand the messages and gender roles placed on a man, neither could a mon towards a woman - unless trans of course. Trans people have the ultimate experience - both of self hate from dysphoria, and of being on both sides on the coin!!
I do think women, especially "feminists," need to be more understanding to men though.
Toxic masculinaty is really bad :(
Long story short: She had to play the 'dude' in the relationships & didn't like it.
Honestly it feels like being a guy is the worst thing you can be in our current society. Who would want to be one when everything is stacked in your favor as woman?
@@Jestrath how could you say something so controversial yet so brave? Have you never heard of tHe pATriArcHy
@@Jestrath
If you think the worst thing you can be in today’s society is a man then you’ve been living a sheltered and privileged life if the worst thing that comes up to your mind is being a dude. Or you have some unresolved self-loathing.
@@Rose-xe4ct Being human in general is hard. I've present as both male and female at some point. I suppose I meant between the two options there is one that clear sticks out as the better one. I don't think there is much inherent advantage to being male. I could go into the laundry list of reasons that in many cases it could be a negative.I've also got some dysphoria going on. If you felt like you were meant to be something you are not it can be pretty painful. Its something you can never totally fix.
@@Jestrath your right dont let anyone convince you otherwise. Solely focus on yourself as a man these days. Progress in life by building skills and develop a strong consciousness instead of giving attention to the BS going on
my experience tells me people are complicated regardless of their gender lol