Do Women Really Have it Harder? Male Feminists vs Antifeminists | Middle Ground

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    0:00 intro
    0:23 do women have it easier?
    5:21 there's no wrong reason to have an abortion
    10:03 mansplaining is overly criticized
    14:08 women should make their own money
    19:56 period pain is over-exaggerated
    20:14 innocent men suffer because of feminism
    28:45 women are fit to be president
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  • @nicpinkygirl
    @nicpinkygirl 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +30617

    Watching this as a woman is wild.

    • @turquoisestranger7566
      @turquoisestranger7566 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2277

      I’m refusing to watch because it’ll only trigger me honestly. The comments are already mentioning the guy who claims women only want abortions because of unprotected sex. As someone whose been sexually assaulted by a past partner it would just be triggering.

    • @limediamond3657
      @limediamond3657 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +544

      @@turquoisestranger7566 I’m so sorry that happened to you, I hope you’re doing ok now 🫂

    • @dismissedrealist6059
      @dismissedrealist6059 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@turquoisestranger7566Women will literally fabricate whole stories of one of the worse traumatic events that an individual can suffer just too feel empowered, and gain sympathy from others. I also hate to break it to you, but most abortions are absolutely because women want zero responsibility or the reprecussions that hookup culture and promiscuous behavior brings.

    • @devin5297
      @devin5297 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +281

      Respect 🙏 this was a hard watch

    • @rei0v
      @rei0v 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +87

      @@turquoisestranger7566 i think he meant some woman who do have abortions for that reason no offense.

  • @kingofpenguins4157
    @kingofpenguins4157 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15387

    The fact that no one stepped forward for the “women are exaggerating period pains” made me feel slightly better

    • @stephaniejohnson5361
      @stephaniejohnson5361 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +328

      why would they. most of the anti feminist there wanted equality. Not demonizing woman.

    • @Changed.User100
      @Changed.User100 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

      @@stephaniejohnson5361 some women love to believe that just a small bruise to their egos mean that it is misogynistic
      although, I would have liked a "men exaggerated getting kicked in the balls" for the female fem vs female anti fem ngl

    • @noneya1238
      @noneya1238 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +363

      ​@@Changed.User100Kinda how men feel like equality for both sexes is oppressive to men.

    • @noneya1238
      @noneya1238 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +186

      ​@@stephaniejohnson5361They didn't even want women to run for president and said horrible things.

    • @dearpercocet.
      @dearpercocet. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@stephaniejohnson5361the definition of feminisim is literally fighting for equality for everyone

  • @cookie_monster783
    @cookie_monster783 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1447

    „Asking for a kiss ruins the romance“ „consent isn’t clear for example if they’re drunk“ WHAT💀somebody check this guys computer 😭

    • @yoshiii561
      @yoshiii561 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      HELPP

    • @yoshiii561
      @yoshiii561 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Like, what if that person doesn't want to be kissed?! That's gonna be even worse ☠️

    • @BarfilaSabun
      @BarfilaSabun หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Brother needs help fr.

    • @Banned4Life
      @Banned4Life หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Haven't seen the part if the video yet, but drunken consent can very much be a gray area. By varying degrees of legislature, one can claim not to be able to give consent when inebriated, even though you can be enthusiastically consenting at the time.

    • @zehro1571
      @zehro1571 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      its says it one the bottle "drink responsibly" why are we treating adults like children if you are putting yourself in dangerous situation why play victim?

  • @leilabsmt3029
    @leilabsmt3029 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2569

    "Being a mother and having kids is what fulfills a woman " 🤦

    • @aAaa-gj1lh
      @aAaa-gj1lh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

      Yeah, pretty much, unless you want to be single and unwanted once you start getting older wrinkly and unnatractive.

    • @mas3435
      @mas3435 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aAaa-gj1lhwrong

    • @CAM-ly9sr
      @CAM-ly9sr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +363

      ⁠@@aAaa-gj1lhbro it’s the woman’s choice… mind your business

    • @ntlnords9567
      @ntlnords9567 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aAaa-gj1lhdespite the obvious flaws of your opinion,after giving birth,women tend to start aging even faster

    • @strawbzzzombie
      @strawbzzzombie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Found one@@aAaa-gj1lh

  • @basharmubarak116
    @basharmubarak116 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12006

    Watching this makes me realise how important emotional intelligence is.

    • @theyou-2-bepodcast190
      @theyou-2-bepodcast190 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      Gonna out on a limb and claim emotional intelligence isn't real and is just a buzzword, on account of the fact that no one seems to be able to define it.

    • @basharmubarak116
      @basharmubarak116 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theyou-2-bepodcast190 that makes no sense. A simple Google search is going to solve that problem of ignorance.

    • @InjaNoKenja
      @InjaNoKenja 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +343

      ​@theyou-2-bepodcast190 I believe it's the ability to show empathy and sympathy towards others. To reserve judgments for when we truly understand someone's situation. If you think what I'm describing is the minimum, congrats you have high emotional intelligence. I'd also argue that it's the ability to be in tune with your own emotions and express them when necessary.

    • @cyberbrain6440
      @cyberbrain6440 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      YESSS and sadly that the majority lacks it

    • @ashlee6254
      @ashlee6254 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theyou-2-bepodcast190 you ever tried googling it?

  • @sunri528
    @sunri528 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4296

    "I think women are more emotional"- Says the guy that has said "I feel" more times than I have ever said in my entire life

    • @zedwalker
      @zedwalker 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +267

      I never got why people say women are more emotional, if that’s the case why do men commit most violent crimes 😂

    • @roguegamer8568
      @roguegamer8568 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      ​@@zedwalkerwomen cry about things more men get angry more. That's what that means. Crying gets you nowhere. Anger helps you to push forward. That the difference.

    • @portaldolphin13
      @portaldolphin13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +306

      @@roguegamer8568 it pushes you forward into a hole is what it does

    • @zedwalker
      @zedwalker 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +241

      @@roguegamer8568 Are you trying to justify violent crimes?

    • @bbrriaaanna
      @bbrriaaanna 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm sorry is anger not an emotion anymore? men are so quick to call women emotional for crying and having normal feelings but turn around and get angry when a girl rejects them. I learned all the different emotions in 1st grade bro@@roguegamer8568

  • @TessaRietveld
    @TessaRietveld 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1237

    All the non feminists talk about 'being protectors', yet I would definitely feel safer with the feminist guys...

    • @SteffanBlanco1
      @SteffanBlanco1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he'd try to get laid

    • @kaliclarke7194
      @kaliclarke7194 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +48

      Trust them with my drink while I pee fr

    • @kaliclarke7194
      @kaliclarke7194 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

      @@Benjy2248 I’m not going home with anyone…? I’m asexual

    • @Benjy2248
      @Benjy2248 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@kaliclarke7194 then I wasn’t talking to you, was I?

    • @kaliclarke7194
      @kaliclarke7194 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Benjy2248 crazy concept. Maybe women go out to bars and drink to have FUN, you just can’t stop sexualizing them, that’s literally on you.

  • @austino.674
    @austino.674 ปีที่แล้ว +73042

    Having a female moderator was a solid move.

    • @Diadin22
      @Diadin22 ปีที่แล้ว +868

      Neutral would've been the solid move but nice try. Sorry to clarify I mean neutral as in not for or against feminism.

    • @BernieSanders-bn5dk
      @BernieSanders-bn5dk ปีที่แล้ว +460

      @@tristanne9262 Lol It made sense if you feel some type of way it proves your bias against debate

    • @friday13michael
      @friday13michael ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Gender matters.

    • @BernieSanders-bn5dk
      @BernieSanders-bn5dk ปีที่แล้ว +246

      @@tristanne9262 🤔 I wonder what you think you did, I wasn’t mad simply stating their obvious signs of a bias.

    • @virgodem
      @virgodem ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tristanne9262If you think she was neutral, just say it. Stop being such a prick about it.

  • @ceyking0910
    @ceyking0910 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5090

    They way the "anti-feminists" are talking THAT confidently about things they never actively got to experience is crazyyy

    • @VileVendetta
      @VileVendetta 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +186

      You dont have to experience the wage gap to understand the original statistic was intellectually dishonest.

    • @NepotisticNeanderthal-mh8cg
      @NepotisticNeanderthal-mh8cg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      @@VileVendetta this

    • @roxane9611
      @roxane9611 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

      You could say... its... mensplaining 🤭

    • @andromeda9818
      @andromeda9818 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@roxane9611 which they denied LMAO

    • @kab9706
      @kab9706 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Those specific men lack the empathy part of their brain. Point blank. If it doesn't affect them personally, they don't care to understand.

  • @symlees3357
    @symlees3357 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +853

    "They're not telling them that, they're validating the fact that it's the reality." Bro cooked hard w that one

    • @PinkFlufyyUnicorn
      @PinkFlufyyUnicorn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      They had to stop the scene after that because of how he gagged everyone💀

    • @zackwaffles
      @zackwaffles 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He literally just restated what the dude said but just in his own words it was probably actually stopped because the conversation probably went south from there and not productive

    • @Awemanherewego
      @Awemanherewego วันที่ผ่านมา

      The lack of testosterone in this room is Is A problem.

  • @thebingus7243
    @thebingus7243 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +610

    no way these dudes are saying that men cant cry and then saying that women are just too emotional.

    • @iamanom
      @iamanom 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Having maturity is so important. Their thoughts are not well thought through.

    • @urmomma567
      @urmomma567 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i think it was more that women say men can’t cry

    • @iamanom
      @iamanom หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      In my whole life, I’ve never heard women say this to men. I hear men say this to other men.

    • @dalodulo1373
      @dalodulo1373 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@iamanomI've only heard a few. The rest isn't said with words. It's how people look at you or treat you after.

    • @Bigpotato92
      @Bigpotato92 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ikr

  • @mitchboland9591
    @mitchboland9591 ปีที่แล้ว +86240

    Now I really want to see male feminists and female anti-feminists

  • @jennie.wx7
    @jennie.wx7 ปีที่แล้ว +5651

    I feel like there were the 4 feminists, 2 anti-feminists, and 2 straight up misogynists

    • @titia6288
      @titia6288 ปีที่แล้ว +153

      exactly

    • @yunidai16
      @yunidai16 ปีที่แล้ว +497

      Ah, yes, the three genders

    • @barbiderka
      @barbiderka ปีที่แล้ว +317

      @SGN Cloverse and Donovan in my opinion

    • @sandra-2043
      @sandra-2043 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      @SGN DONOVAN

    • @TrischaPepper
      @TrischaPepper ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@yunidai16 the 3 genders 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀

  • @huntersmith4985
    @huntersmith4985 หลายเดือนก่อน +450

    The fact they barely listened to the female moderator says ALOT

    • @luck3yp0rk93
      @luck3yp0rk93 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Male moderators have the same problem. Just watch the 2020 presidential debates. Confirmation bias.

    • @sarahko1014
      @sarahko1014 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      How did they not lmao

    • @kyorna
      @kyorna หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @@sarahko1014 I'm pretty sure she told them to not talk over each other and a couple mins later they're talking over each other again

    • @sarahko1014
      @sarahko1014 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @@kyorna Yeah but the irony is that the person who listened to the moderator the least was the feminist guy in the orange.

    • @Gannicus006
      @Gannicus006 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sarahko1014 inreality women cant really control men if the men dont want to.and that guy seems like very feminine.

  • @drvoos
    @drvoos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +198

    donovan would be the first person to get the pepper spray in that room

    • @Sahlofolin542
      @Sahlofolin542 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why would you pepper spray someone for saying mean stufd

    • @drvoos
      @drvoos 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@Sahlofolin542 congratulations you missed the point of the comment. 🤗 thank you for adding nothing

  • @user-mx1us1pj1l
    @user-mx1us1pj1l 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8152

    “Patriarchal society is the way society runs best” The Earth is literally DYING 💀💀💀

    • @Jordan-tg4uj
      @Jordan-tg4uj 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +348

      THISS like there are BIGGER PROBLEMS 😭😭😭

    • @Damadji69
      @Damadji69 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      World was better years ago according to you then when men literally traded daughters to maintain peace among their kingdoms.

    • @S0FTW4RE
      @S0FTW4RE 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      LMAOO IKR

    • @HighlightsCity-us6nw
      @HighlightsCity-us6nw 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +140

      its better than matriarchal for sure

    • @Sirpopeington
      @Sirpopeington 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

      Dude our society is on its death spiral and you think the degradation of the concept of a patriarchal society isn’t the culprit?

  • @ohyechlo
    @ohyechlo ปีที่แล้ว +16376

    ‘women are too emotional’ ‘men should be able to express their emotions’ in the same conversation is INSANE

    • @jacobydove8213
      @jacobydove8213 ปีที่แล้ว +477

      Too be fair, neither of those statements are in direct conflict with one another. So why is it insane?

    • @AndyPotts0
      @AndyPotts0 ปีที่แล้ว +296

      There’s a difference between making rash decisions based on emotion and being able to express your emotion…

    • @1000OtherFoxes
      @1000OtherFoxes ปีที่แล้ว +119

      why is it insane, it's called balance.

    • @cyb3rsvng
      @cyb3rsvng ปีที่แล้ว +900

      @jacoby dove its hypocritical. the stereotype that women are too emotional is often portrayed in a negative light and seen as over dramatic, why are they criticizing women for being 'too emotional' and then going on to say that 'men should be able to express their emotions' when they roll their eyes at women expressing their emotions? it just doesn't add up

    • @may51973
      @may51973 ปีที่แล้ว +438

      The emotional stereotype makes me laugh. Some men think if a woman is angry for instance, she is being hysterical, and if a men is angry.. well is being a men

  • @st4rryn7ght
    @st4rryn7ght 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +352

    Donovan needs to go outside and touch the grass fr. Feels like he has never talk with a woman in his whole life

  • @anais.chan_
    @anais.chan_ หลายเดือนก่อน +251

    Funny how 3 of 4 of the feminists men mentioned in the conversation that they have a woman whereas none of the anti feminist mentioned it. It means what it means 😂

    • @Vishnuk-fe9iv
      @Vishnuk-fe9iv หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Do you need to have a woman to prove a point? Isn't that sexist.

    • @TheMATHEHOUSE
      @TheMATHEHOUSE หลายเดือนก่อน

      Says a lot about "being a feminist to get laid part though "😂😂
      Hey, i´m the hope, i got a girlfriend and ain´t no way i follow the stupidest,bitchest and deshonest movement in the modern 21st century.

    • @kyorna
      @kyorna หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      @@Vishnuk-fe9iv Nah it's just showing that these people are actually more capable of maintaining a relationship than the anti-feminists due to the fact that they are able to resonate and connect with women based on their beliefs. The anit-feminists have views that most women (who would respect themselves) very obviously don't agree with.

    • @Rhi1231
      @Rhi1231 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      not defending the anti-feminists in anyways but Clarkson was in another video representing gay conservatives… i don’t think women are his type

    • @guide3434
      @guide3434 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kyorna they're just beta buxxing. They'll never make women swoon for them like handsome and often mysogynist chads do. Cope

  • @evagerdes3444
    @evagerdes3444 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4453

    “I feel like women are more emotional”
    While the room is filled up with guys yelling and not allowing each other to speak cause theyre mad and emotional.

    • @ROX-gq2mo
      @ROX-gq2mo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +205

      fr its exhausting seeing then just yelling but not listening, so inmature tho

    • @insideAdirtyMind
      @insideAdirtyMind 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah, because men think anger and frustration are not emotions, like happyness are not emotions. The majority of men literally behave like todlers, scream and beat up other men or their wives, because they can not control their emotions, but for some reason women are the emotional ones. Just scratch a mans ego a bit and he gets so very emotional, but of course he is not emotional he is controlled while he abuses you and screams at you and If women get angry there is of course no reason for this, because they are just crazy and emotional for no reason

    • @DavidW-ng5zv
      @DavidW-ng5zv 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@insideAdirtyMind, so if men are emotional, what is your solution? Please note that emotions are a bad thing.

    • @britneyvik34
      @britneyvik34 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +194

      @@DavidW-ng5zvthe solution is to let them be emotional and stop telling women that they are emotional for acting in the same way 😅

    • @turquoisestranger7566
      @turquoisestranger7566 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

      @@DavidW-ng5zvplease note that anger is an emotion.

  • @deannaclayton883
    @deannaclayton883 ปีที่แล้ว +78962

    I died when Tucker said "If I hear one more person use religion as a reason to not give rights to people, I think I'm going to explode"

    • @Johan-di6md
      @Johan-di6md ปีที่แล้ว +7817

      I can relate to his frustration sooo much.

    • @cjbranchett9733
      @cjbranchett9733 ปีที่แล้ว +4181

      I can honestly relate to that quote a lot to be honest. Not everyone has faith or is religious

    • @the_alexicon
      @the_alexicon ปีที่แล้ว +1249

      How do people use religion as a reason not to give rights? Ive encountered more to the contrary tbh

    • @leareed3749
      @leareed3749 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@the_alexicon Iran, Israel, Palestine, The United States, as well as the Western world which was built on the principles of the Catholic Church and Abrahamic religions.... using it to pass laws, etc.... there is SO much evidence of this.. you just gotta look a little harder lol.

    • @dayanaarias1035
      @dayanaarias1035 ปีที่แล้ว +494

      Crazy convenient how they always forget that little part in the constitution

  • @sparkyblue7016
    @sparkyblue7016 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1163

    1:18 "women have value from birth"
    Me : Looking intensely at female infanticide rates

    • @Clowneryoverload
      @Clowneryoverload 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      This is the worst kind of practice that happens since 1000bce

    • @descartesbutiamnot8740
      @descartesbutiamnot8740 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Underrated comment.

    • @Lucy-ou5hf
      @Lucy-ou5hf หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Very true.

    • @Amanda-hc5ld
      @Amanda-hc5ld หลายเดือนก่อน

      Looks even closer at the same thing happening to men but nobody notice or cares

    • @itzelramirez4801
      @itzelramirez4801 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      FOR REAL

  • @dannielle..
    @dannielle.. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +164

    Clarkson annoyed me but he ate up the “Women are fit to be president” statement

  • @cockroachlover69
    @cockroachlover69 หลายเดือนก่อน +517

    Guys don't be mean to Donovan, he forgot his brain at home.

    • @darioadaseq
      @darioadaseq หลายเดือนก่อน +88

      Bold of you to assume he has one

    • @cocou.u3530
      @cocou.u3530 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@darioadaseqthis

    • @GraceGilstrap
      @GraceGilstrap 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@darioadaseqLOLLL

    • @Zyrock
      @Zyrock 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s kinda racist

    • @Zyrock
      @Zyrock 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Kinda racist picking on him for his ethnicity

  • @aidenmartinez2541
    @aidenmartinez2541 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2218

    “So women can use their face to get on a guy’s yacht?”. “Yeah”. “Does that help then vote?” That convo was insane.😂😂😂😂

    • @EvanLovesYou
      @EvanLovesYou 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +209

      its insane beacause it had no relavancy

    • @edennara
      @edennara 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

      it was sooo random😭

    • @MothEsque
      @MothEsque 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +192

      i can see his thought process but i think it came out very wrong lol

    • @indrebutku
      @indrebutku 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Only because he thinks men don't do that 😊

    • @rohanshende4338
      @rohanshende4338 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@indrebutku Men actually don't

  • @marissawright7084
    @marissawright7084 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7464

    CJ: "It's a shame that the world is so black and white"
    Also CJ: "Men are supposed to protect and women are supposed to raise children"

    • @dsp4392
      @dsp4392 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +455

      CJ is like an off-brand Andrew Tate.

    • @nathangaspacio6128
      @nathangaspacio6128 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

      @@dsp4392 he looks like if andrew tatee didnt go bald

    • @diamonshade7484
      @diamonshade7484 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@nathangaspacio6128he ain't bald More

    • @willl9046
      @willl9046 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +202

      CJ is full of contradictions. He kept saying that he isn’t a victim and isn’t oppressed but also he feels that men suffer under feminism. Like which one is it?

    • @jtc1ra
      @jtc1ra 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      PragerU hires their bests...

  • @srimayeeganesh7295
    @srimayeeganesh7295 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +234

    THE WAY DONAVAN MADE ME SCREAM EVERYTIME HE SPOKE

    • @alia_1lu4vc
      @alia_1lu4vc หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      AND CJ

    • @BarfilaSabun
      @BarfilaSabun หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ikr...I was going insane listening to him.

    • @quit3584
      @quit3584 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      LITERALLY I COULDNT

  • @zara8253
    @zara8253 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +449

    That boy with glasses - we all know how we feel abt him,as a woman

    • @MrSaxobeat020
      @MrSaxobeat020 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

      Not even a female dog will be attracted to it.

    • @BarfilaSabun
      @BarfilaSabun หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      Ikr, pathetic.

    • @btsarmyblink3459
      @btsarmyblink3459 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gross guy

    • @karmaf2p431
      @karmaf2p431 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unfortunately i have figured It out that women attract more to the guy we are talking about, idk why😢​@@MrSaxobeat020

    • @obvi.charlotte_213
      @obvi.charlotte_213 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

      He’s also like a bit homophobic not gonna lie. When he said that a woman can’t have a child without men like WHAT

  • @castellongort
    @castellongort 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6839

    Donovan is SO EXHAUSTING. I respect his bravery to come on the show without knowing absolutely nothing about anything

    • @rohanshende4338
      @rohanshende4338 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I bet you are a feminist. The bias in your comment speaks.

    • @nthing2write254
      @nthing2write254 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +380

      Yeah.. but I don't know if I respect that part either, bravery or...um stupidity??

    • @weeeek1933
      @weeeek1933 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Low iq spotted

    • @kiararoland2630
      @kiararoland2630 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

      IM WHEEZING

    • @rebeccajackson4984
      @rebeccajackson4984 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

      He's truly clueless.

  • @omerdanenberg
    @omerdanenberg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5182

    watching this as a woman is an out of body experience tbh

    • @floydclark6710
      @floydclark6710 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      Oh, poor baby. LOL You are so oppressed.

    • @like_grrra
      @like_grrra 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +405

      @@floydclark6710the football icon tells us all we need to know. thank you for your opinion.

    • @floydclark6710
      @floydclark6710 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      @@like_grrra Yeah. Nobody who is a fan of football could possibly be correct about anything. Well played, ma'am.

    • @like_grrra
      @like_grrra 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +266

      @@floydclark6710 you didn’t really say anything worth discussing, you just mocked a random woman lmaooo

    • @floydclark6710
      @floydclark6710 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@like_grrra I certainly did mock a random woman. However, I would argue that it is worth discussing why so many women are professional victims in today's Western culture. You're intentionally dodging the issue that I'm mocking.

  • @jasmintea8825
    @jasmintea8825 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

    The way they complain about all the standards that men have to obtain but in the same breath shame other men if they are more feminine is crazy 💀

    • @Vishnuk-fe9iv
      @Vishnuk-fe9iv หลายเดือนก่อน

      The fact that you whiny women think you're victims but then bark mysogny when Men speak up is crazy.

    • @Vishnuk-fe9iv
      @Vishnuk-fe9iv หลายเดือนก่อน

      The fact that you whiny women act victim but bark mysogny when Men speak up is crazy and hypocrisy.

    • @GMRF1708
      @GMRF1708 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I do not like those standards, but i believe trying to reach them makes me grow

  • @jillm1142
    @jillm1142 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +148

    It's unbelievable that Cloverse used Liz Truss as a negative example and didn't even know what position she held or why she resigned.

    • @VV-bk1wv
      @VV-bk1wv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She resigned because her awful mini budget plunged the nation even further into debt

    • @martiepenick3629
      @martiepenick3629 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      And meanwhile, UK had it's longest reigning Queen who got the throne because her uncle abdicated

    • @victoriagarces1998
      @victoriagarces1998 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@martiepenick3629they don’t wanna acknowledge though. Misogyny at its finest

    • @knytt
      @knytt 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      confusing UK with London was a great touch

    • @cookie-hz9fx
      @cookie-hz9fx 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bro totally ignored the existence of Margaret Thatcher

  • @eggypeggy9384
    @eggypeggy9384 ปีที่แล้ว +10313

    kevin came, spoke respectfully, didn’t speak over others and listened. i am kevins biggest fan. what a sweet person

    • @amberlita
      @amberlita ปีที่แล้ว +345

      Yeah he nailed it. I was consistently impressed with his responses.

    • @prazynagc7645
      @prazynagc7645 ปีที่แล้ว +316

      i agreed with everything he said. he was quiet throughout but when he spoke, everyone went quiet

    • @luceandmusic
      @luceandmusic ปีที่แล้ว +44

      FACTSSSS

    • @samhayet4286
      @samhayet4286 ปีที่แล้ว +165

      His girlfriend is a very lucky lady! I'm so in love!

    • @richardmyers7847
      @richardmyers7847 ปีที่แล้ว +324

      @@samhayet4286 it's funny Kevin and his group had girlfriends and the anti feminist were single males

  • @gvshe996
    @gvshe996 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4494

    As a woman, the amount of times i had to pause this video just to take a deep breath is insane!

    • @Sherryryr
      @Sherryryr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      THIS

    • @xerxerxo0384
      @xerxerxo0384 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What a wuss

    • @whyareusoannoying2823
      @whyareusoannoying2823 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

      And what triggered me is the most is that is the abortion topic.Because I don't think there is no wrong reason to abort because it could have the environment or health reasons.

    • @jwgkouseband4146
      @jwgkouseband4146 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Huh? why does one get out of breath from watching a video.

    • @sofiaruiz6433
      @sofiaruiz6433 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      @@jwgkouseband4146​​⁠not out of breath. Yk after a long day of work you get home and just take a breath and sigh? That’s what they’re talking about. Perhaps this person is angry or sad about a few of those men’s opinions about the topic that it becomes frustrating for some people to watch as people have the whole idea of a topic that is about them(this person is a woman as stated) is wrong.

  • @maddygrace17
    @maddygrace17 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +124

    As the mother of a daughter, I am so encouraged to hear half of these men speak (in particular Quinten and Kevin).
    I want to rage puke listening to Donovan.

    • @pickerooni6247
      @pickerooni6247 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Cool but it’s a discussion so attack his argument not his character

  • @Jajajajajaja08
    @Jajajajajaja08 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    Three claps to Quinten for being clear, reasonable, and standing up for himself when others tried to interrupt, yet letting them talk too 👏👏👏

  • @danktime216
    @danktime216 ปีที่แล้ว +9450

    "Women are emotional being" meanwhile this is Jubilee's most emotionally charged video

    • @huellfring1434
      @huellfring1434 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      If it women it will even more emotional

    • @ap7football933
      @ap7football933 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      It’s an extremely sensitive topic in the present day so doesn’t rlly have anything to do with them being all men. If you think women are not more emotional than men then you’re seriously deluded

    • @ar433new6
      @ar433new6 ปีที่แล้ว +758

      @@huellfring1434 anger is also an emotion btw

    • @t.g.6080
      @t.g.6080 ปีที่แล้ว +583

      @@ap7football933 Men are clearly more emotional. Look at them, they can barely sit and listen to each other. Constant interruptions, barely hearing the others point. Makes sense you’re ‘seriously deluded.’

    • @ap7football933
      @ap7football933 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@t.g.6080 😂😂😂😂 you did not just say that, men are more emotional than women? What exactly are you smoking? There’s having an opinion and then just being in straight denial over a blatant fact

  • @pinkishlyshy__8191
    @pinkishlyshy__8191 ปีที่แล้ว +9821

    The fact that between anti feminists and feminists, they can all agree that period pain isn’t exaggerated because they know for a fact they can’t say anything on that because they simply don’t experience it, is lovely.

    • @coinedartist9893
      @coinedartist9893 ปีที่แล้ว +1736

      @@RetroMamba that is not something ANYWHERE close to period pain... why are you comparing the two?

    • @rose-rv5yz
      @rose-rv5yz ปีที่แล้ว +556

      @@RetroMamba there two different things

    • @pikasoccer
      @pikasoccer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RetroMamba are you admitting to rape online sir?

    • @ravenscalls
      @ravenscalls ปีที่แล้ว +158

      @@RetroMamba yep totally the same thing

    • @Austrian_Painter.7
      @Austrian_Painter.7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@coinedartist9893 You have no idea whamen

  • @mofetoluwadelano9773
    @mofetoluwadelano9773 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +199

    I love how Quinten gags them.

  • @stannmixx
    @stannmixx หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Quinten is so real for just saying "hold on" every time someone tried to interrupt him

  • @mishmarie4170
    @mishmarie4170 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8124

    As a woman, I can tell you that I know with confidence who I would feel physically and emotionally safe around and who I would not, from this video.

    • @actinaction
      @actinaction 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +861

      I love how the antifeminists look exactly how I pictured them to look, would definetely cover my drink when they enter a room...

    • @christian_12346
      @christian_12346 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +184

      Okay I agree with some of their points but for the most part they were just braindead incels so yeah I would agree.@@actinaction

    • @dodododo6875
      @dodododo6875 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      they getting laid huh?

    • @xarkee
      @xarkee 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      thats so real

    • @eamezcua188
      @eamezcua188 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

      @@actinactionexactly, I agree completely, not so much with the comment previously because I feel like they’re all educated but I feel a lot safer with the anti-feminist than the feminist ngl just because the feminist came out talking more aggressively, unprofessional, kept interrupting and being dismissive with the anti-feminist points while the anti-feminist would actually listen and try to give an actual educated answer. Now I MIGHT JUST BE SAYING THIS BECAUSE I’ve been raised by anti-feminist and been around them more that I can completely understand where they’re coming from

  • @xe11e
    @xe11e 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6393

    Respect for Kevin for staying patient and sharing his opinions calmly

    • @Rennn360
      @Rennn360 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Fr

    • @Addison.S_DD
      @Addison.S_DD 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +122

      Fr he was super respectful for both men and women

    • @user-ws7jx1kg6d
      @user-ws7jx1kg6d 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Litterally

    • @lovepeacepatince
      @lovepeacepatince 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      True feminist

    • @Sojuboy
      @Sojuboy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      t’s called being asian and having respectful values. Everyone else thinks just cause they’re louder means that they are correct.

  • @elisoukhi4370
    @elisoukhi4370 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

    A nice example of mansplaining for folks that believe it doesn't exist :
    One time, a guy asked me on Discord how long my period lasted (yeah don't ask why)
    I replied eight days because my period lasts longer than the norm.
    He then said that I was lying, hence NOT A WOMAN, and proceeded to explain to me how periods and menstrual cycles worked.
    Mansplaining does exist and it's freaking ridiculous to experience lmao

    • @jonathan1869
      @jonathan1869 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      I wouldn’t be surprised AT ALL if the mf on discord was either CJ or that Donovan kid

    • @ylly5764
      @ylly5764 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      lol average guy on discord or reddit, wouldnt be suprised if he had a fedora, a double chin, and a neckbeard

    • @Cherry-pu4mx
      @Cherry-pu4mx 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Wht? Discord is a platform in which anonymity is practiced. Of course he is going to be skeptical by your answer differing to what he thought was correct.
      If this is mansplaining then I've seen this with women so often.

    • @anusaukko6792
      @anusaukko6792 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Stopped reading the moment you mentioned ''Discord''

    • @MS-je7sn
      @MS-je7sn 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Bro’s traumatic experience was on discord 🤣

  • @Bee-hg9qp
    @Bee-hg9qp หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    “If a woman feels intimidated that’s on her” “feminism makes men feel upset every day!”

  • @Lucas_Ficz
    @Lucas_Ficz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3702

    Donovan is the type of person that humanity fought against for nearly all its existence

    • @mcn_o1
      @mcn_o1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Naah. Humanity has actually shunned the pussified men like the feminist ones on here. Societies have fallen because of these men. Weak men were always faught against

    • @stephensharper4312
      @stephensharper4312 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      In other words you flunked out of school

    • @MinisDunyasi5
      @MinisDunyasi5 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      @@stephensharper4312What do you mean?

    • @stephensharper4312
      @stephensharper4312 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The statement is completely nonsensical. Humanity has not fought against a type of person...ever. That's just not how it works at all. Any discipline in school should make that assessment impossible as there are no grounds to back it up. History isn't some comic book publication with archetypical villains. @@MinisDunyasi5

    • @chalabianadji8430
      @chalabianadji8430 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      LMAO made me laugh fr 😂

  • @la1z33
    @la1z33 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2349

    that antifeminist saying "don't have sex without protection" if you don't want a baby... i hate that nobody mentioned the topic of r4pe and the fact that protection isn't even completely foolproof.

    • @jwgkouseband4146
      @jwgkouseband4146 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

      Less than 1% of abortions come from rape. I do get your point, but it is not really valid to base your opinion about abortions with SA cases.

    • @RED-9936
      @RED-9936 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jwgkouseband4146 and most most rape is because these women go out to clubs with strangers who are drunk and maybe horney.

    • @manofyourdreams129
      @manofyourdreams129 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      @@jwgkouseband4146 why? its still existent so u can base ur opinion on that

    • @LightAndShaddow5
      @LightAndShaddow5 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@manofyourdreams129
      Because it’d eliminate around 99% of abortions.

    • @ZipMapp
      @ZipMapp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Contraception is 100% unless you're a moron and producers write 99% to have an escape route from lawsuits in case consumers are absolute morons. Sperm can't go around a condom if it doesn't break, the pill indeed prevents ovocytes from being feconsated. R4pe is the exception not the norm among unwsnted pregnancies so your point is moot. No one is arguing to force you to keep your r4pists baby.

  • @kamrunnaharkeya9043
    @kamrunnaharkeya9043 หลายเดือนก่อน +143

    Donovan is never getting a girlfriend.

  • @jessicanguyen3294
    @jessicanguyen3294 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    the dude who actually refused to get interrupted, props to u

  • @robinfox4440
    @robinfox4440 ปีที่แล้ว +8674

    I hate discussions like this because of the self-righteousness and anger that overrides people's ability to listen. This is the perfect example of "most people don't listen to understand; they listen to reply."

    • @ysgslime8251
      @ysgslime8251 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Very true

    • @NA-ud6qm
      @NA-ud6qm ปีที่แล้ว +140

      I agree 100%. But it did feel like both sides were listening too each other.

    • @nothanks1239
      @nothanks1239 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      Agree. I usually click on these videos and just read the comments. It's too frustrating to listen to people not listening.

    • @user-pi2wr8pz1t
      @user-pi2wr8pz1t ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was just thinking that

    • @alexgarcia1801
      @alexgarcia1801 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      beautifully said.

  • @soundsbeefypops
    @soundsbeefypops ปีที่แล้ว +28514

    Imagine arguing that women shouldn’t be presidents because they are “emotional beings” while also saying that men should be allowed to show their emotions more without judgement from society.

    • @Handymancinema
      @Handymancinema ปีที่แล้ว +101

      so both problems are solved then....

    • @shemgilbert1991
      @shemgilbert1991 ปีที่แล้ว +224

      you say that based on absolutely nothing though. You just made a completely generalized statement based on nothing and applied it to half the population

    • @izzylandyt
      @izzylandyt ปีที่แล้ว +180

      Female Presidents aren’t a new thing.

    • @alexthecreator8380
      @alexthecreator8380 ปีที่แล้ว +569

      maybe he means no one should be president 🤣

    • @duffydope
      @duffydope ปีที่แล้ว +55

      I mean if you are overemotional and someone is emotionless if the emotionless showed more emotion and was still more reasonable you wouldnt choose the woman in this case.

  • @alejandrarosales7836
    @alejandrarosales7836 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    As women we don't have to be told that we need to be scared to be in a room full men we already are

    • @SparkLabReal
      @SparkLabReal หลายเดือนก่อน

      well that's incredibly sexist and pathetic of you, congratulations!

    • @katrin_quinn
      @katrin_quinn 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's what i was thinking, if I'm in a room with just men(especially if don't them) i will feel uncomfortable

    • @Cherry-pu4mx
      @Cherry-pu4mx 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thts an irrational fear

    • @katrin_quinn
      @katrin_quinn 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Cherry-pu4mx **that's
      It's not an irrational fear for women trust me

    • @SparkLabReal
      @SparkLabReal 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@katrin_quinn it is an irrational fear.

  • @alinazn4717
    @alinazn4717 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Love the way how calm Kevin talks about these topics and is chilling the atmosphere down. That makes his saying so much more powerful and rememberable. Also love how precise Quinten can describe his thoughts, so a lot of people can easily understand his points.

  • @ronaldijuarez2819
    @ronaldijuarez2819 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5253

    “If a woman feels intimated it’s on her” THATS CRAZY how do you even say that and full heartedly agree with that statement😭

    • @heffsi
      @heffsi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

      What IS wrong with that? Its the Woman that decides to ASK for a raise. If she isnt confident enough she will earn less. Life isnt fair

    • @aishwaryap1291
      @aishwaryap1291 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And then they go on to say, men feel intimidated and weak because women are empowered. And it's all women's fault. What a level of hypocrisy!

    • @rosebon9875
      @rosebon9875 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +357

      @@heffsiBc she gets treated in a way that puts her in a position to be more intimidated than other men?💀

    • @supersonicfan9584
      @supersonicfan9584 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

      ​@@heffsifacts. If feminists want equal rights, they should also have equal responsibilities

    • @ollehkacb
      @ollehkacb 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

      ​@@rosebon9875fear is subjective.
      Saying hello to someone may intimidate them
      Walking on the same side walk may intimidate them.
      Yes its on the person if they feel fear from potentially innocuous things.

  • @chu2fan729
    @chu2fan729 ปีที่แล้ว +1002

    None of y’all have any idea how many times I paused this just to argue by myself

  • @desireeperham7093
    @desireeperham7093 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    False accusation rate for rape is around 3-7%. Rate of NOT REPORTING RAPE AT ALL is 89%

  • @marloesk9753
    @marloesk9753 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

    not all feminist are antimen, only the extremists. there are extremists in every movement

    • @unkownnameless2699
      @unkownnameless2699 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Feminism is anti male ideologically, by saying women are oppressed and men are privileged when it's completely the other way around

    • @Lilac_166
      @Lilac_166 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Louder boy🎉

    • @redpanther9380
      @redpanther9380 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      90 percent of them are

  • @stephanychang6749
    @stephanychang6749 ปีที่แล้ว +4885

    “Period pain is exaggerated” topic was hilarious. Im glad no one came forward 😂

    • @TedEhioghae
      @TedEhioghae ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Talking about eating icecream when you have period is cringe.

    • @mimo5853
      @mimo5853 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      But I bet if there was a group of women and the prompt was “Do you think men over exaggerate pain when they are hit/kicked in the balls?” every women would have stepped forward.

    • @kalyani5526
      @kalyani5526 ปีที่แล้ว +292

      @@mimo5853 bet away. Nobody really cares about thoughts here

    • @mariunfabregas7533
      @mariunfabregas7533 ปีที่แล้ว +586

      @@mimo5853 not you comparing period pains to getting kicked in the balls as if getting kicked in the balls is a regular, monthly occurance😭

    • @lemoineau2317
      @lemoineau2317 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      @@mariunfabregas7533 And in some cultures, an occurance that is shamed upon

  • @e.mariannem1640
    @e.mariannem1640 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1461

    Tucker replying with "are you aware of all of history" is the highlight of this whole episode

    • @williamg780
      @williamg780 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      As a history major I laughed so hard lol

  • @gabrielauharcekova8489
    @gabrielauharcekova8489 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    "Mansplaining is not real" was a great example of mansplaining tbh

    • @ezra8545
      @ezra8545 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This😂😂

    • @Cherry-pu4mx
      @Cherry-pu4mx 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This can apply to women then too lol

    • @ezra8545
      @ezra8545 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Cherry-pu4mx women don’t pretend like they are better and know everything… we just chill and live our lives

    • @TheLordoftheDarkness
      @TheLordoftheDarkness 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ezra8545Men don't do that either but we try to provide input with whatever we can. That's called "trying to be helpful".

  • @tylinious
    @tylinious 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    "I cant think of any other reason than to get laid..." wow imagine not being able to wrap your head around empathy.

  • @liliadesouza3597
    @liliadesouza3597 ปีที่แล้ว +28198

    the amount of times feminism is confused with misandry is actually shocking

    • @stephanasstephen3070
      @stephanasstephen3070 ปีที่แล้ว +2084

      Today's feminism don't make feminism different from misandry

    • @deedelta9263
      @deedelta9263 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, some people that identify as feminists are confused themselves

    • @av1935
      @av1935 ปีที่แล้ว +251

      Like it was crazy that it wasnt mentioned once either

    • @anxietina_
      @anxietina_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you would be surprised at the amount of self-proclaimed feminists on twitter that proudly call themselves misandrists, as if it's a thing to be proud of. it's sad.

    • @MrNikeNicke
      @MrNikeNicke ปีที่แล้ว +1045

      @Bee "it's not a form of hatred" Bruh Misandry (/mɪˈsændri/) is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against men.
      Bigotry usually comes from some sort of hurt, that doesn't make it justified.

  • @shaybearden9438
    @shaybearden9438 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1301

    Im not done with the video yet, but so far I really appreciate how the feminist men don’t seem like typical “nice guys” they seem much more genuine in their feminism.

    • @edvh88
      @edvh88 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      Yes, and several of them have women partners!

    • @InChristWeTrust999
      @InChristWeTrust999 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The two more reserved men seem like nice people, but the other two men wearing orange sweatshirts are absolutely insufferable.

    • @jkn111111
      @jkn111111 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      This is a joke right….

    • @user-tl1vl9vw9l
      @user-tl1vl9vw9l 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@jkn111111no?? why would it be??

    • @musicplug1730
      @musicplug1730 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-tl1vl9vw9lcause all the feminist men seem very feminine themselves. They act like women can do no wrong the antifeminist side was a more realistic

  • @loydpike8528
    @loydpike8528 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    The fact that those two dudes stood there at the president prompt. Thats crazy!

  • @lynnielie8312
    @lynnielie8312 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    ‘It is a life at birth’ when he meant to say conception 😂😂 Freudian slip of I’ve ever heard one BAHA

  • @aubriewaffle9747
    @aubriewaffle9747 ปีที่แล้ว +4312

    I'm extremely concerned for whoever ends up having Donovan as their partner

    • @madisonworkman9187
      @madisonworkman9187 ปีที่แล้ว +863

      Do you actually think that will happen in this lifetime

    • @susanaavv
      @susanaavv ปีที่แล้ว +525

      I think he’ll be single for life 😂

    • @madisonworkman9187
      @madisonworkman9187 ปีที่แล้ว +486

      @@susanaavv he gives conversion camp graduate to me, so religiously manipulated

    • @shamedisgust2374
      @shamedisgust2374 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      Quinten was super annoying and so were all the anti feminists.

    • @Scar-jg4bn
      @Scar-jg4bn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He ain't gonna get a woman unless he gets an arranged marriage, lmao. He shouldn't reproduce.

  • @QuinnCBeauty
    @QuinnCBeauty ปีที่แล้ว +6555

    “They are losing their ability to compete in beauty pageants” “oh boy” was my immediate response too like that’s the issues we are facing

    • @Anna-nj7co
      @Anna-nj7co ปีที่แล้ว +704

      As a woman, that truly affects heavily me on a daily basis

    • @madamjuice1000
      @madamjuice1000 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      😭😭😭

    • @Lizanya8
      @Lizanya8 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      No because… 😂😂😂

    • @kyasonkaylor6807
      @kyasonkaylor6807 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pageants objectify women and put women against each other

    • @ragegaze3482
      @ragegaze3482 ปีที่แล้ว +135

      He is talking about trans women, which is a big current issue, because it's slowly taking more opportunities away from women. Nothing else is blatantly taking away womens rights

  • @Jody577
    @Jody577 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    “When a girl is crying, they’re a princess and they’re given the world.” Ok bro. Ok 💀

    • @comentaristametaforico9287
      @comentaristametaforico9287 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Where's the lie?

    • @Jody577
      @Jody577 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@comentaristametaforico9287 Your mom saying she loves you

    • @fatimamona2297
      @fatimamona2297 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Same guy mocking women for being "emotional"

    • @ezra8545
      @ezra8545 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@comentaristametaforico9287in front of me …

    • @Zyrock
      @Zyrock 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Society doesn’t rlly care about men’s struggles so he’s not wrong

  • @user-lw7jg7cq1t
    @user-lw7jg7cq1t หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    As a women, the way that some of these guys were talking is actually terrifying. Anytime CJ spoke all I heard was “it doesn’t exist” mansplaining, patriarchy, the pay gap, and being a victim. Like- WHAT? and anytime Donovan spoke I wanted to light myself on fire ISTG. Thank goddess that Kevin, Josh, Quienten, and Tucker were there other wise Id be in a psych ward

    • @alia_1lu4vc
      @alia_1lu4vc หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      YES their actually so uneducated it's insane

  • @jennaoakley1126
    @jennaoakley1126 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +847

    the way he was saying "if women feel intimidated thats on her" but then also argues that society is "demonizing masculinity" and that whole argument is the funniest thing to me

    • @LightAndShaddow5
      @LightAndShaddow5 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Is it also funny to you when a feminist has double standards?

    • @Stinkyfefefe
      @Stinkyfefefe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@LightAndShaddow5my double stander in a guy is that he has to be fictional

    • @LightAndShaddow5
      @LightAndShaddow5 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Stinkyfefefe
      Is that funny?

    • @LightAndShaddow5
      @LightAndShaddow5 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@collective654
      How?

    • @Stinkyfefefe
      @Stinkyfefefe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@LightAndShaddow5 I like fictional men

  • @ErBeary
    @ErBeary ปีที่แล้ว +2665

    "Period pain is exaggerated" *pin drops* lmao Loved that. Smart men for not stepping forward for that one.

    • @un_real9971
      @un_real9971 ปีที่แล้ว +400

      Because how can you say something is exaggerated when you yourself have never experienced it.

    • @ErBeary
      @ErBeary ปีที่แล้ว +199

      @@un_real9971 Exactly. But you would be surprised at the comments that I have heard from men about period pain and even childbirth.

    • @gagol8833
      @gagol8833 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@un_real9971 kick in ball is more hurtful for ur information

    • @nevv343
      @nevv343 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gagol8833 have u had a period? silly it’s every month for 7 days. does u get kicked in the balls every months for 7 days straight ? if u r get help

    • @thinkabtloona
      @thinkabtloona ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@gagol8833 it is NOT..

  • @sharkie_5
    @sharkie_5 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    As a female, I am in shock💀

    • @ezra8545
      @ezra8545 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I never knew men where so emotional… as a women I just life my life and then there is this

  • @laurenkam2304
    @laurenkam2304 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I don’t know why I voluntarily watched this… I’ll just be laying in bed angry tonight I guess

    • @Zyrock
      @Zyrock 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s healthy to see diff perspectives

  • @Slo426
    @Slo426 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +611

    “Women do not want power over men, but rather power over themselves.”- Mary Wollstonecraft

    • @SuperPerfection7
      @SuperPerfection7 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      with no consequences." You forgot that part. While men have power with consequences.

    • @Slo426
      @Slo426 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@SuperPerfection7 could you elaborate?

    • @Slo426
      @Slo426 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@SuperPerfection7 keep in mind that I said power over ONES SELF. Not power over people or society. It’s choice. But still, elaborate.

    • @SuperPerfection7
      @SuperPerfection7 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@Slo426 Sure. Women can end or keep a pregnancy, having a choice in motherhood. Men don't have a choice yet face the consequences on either outcome (either losing a child or paying child support).
      They want affirmative action in play, go into fields that are not high stress, high hours yet feminists complain they don't get paid equally to men that do go into said jobs and work the long hours.
      That is what I'm referring to.

    • @childfreegamer8840
      @childfreegamer8840 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Excellent quote and very true.

  • @lizzyleefree1593
    @lizzyleefree1593 ปีที่แล้ว +4400

    What about women who aren't conventionally pretty? What about women over 40? What about women who are infertile? What about women who are neurodivergent? What about women who are in countries where they are still denied education and other basic rights and safety because of their gender? Where does society see their value?

    • @xBrandon888
      @xBrandon888 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you have to resort to intersectional arguments to make a point about feminism you are basically proving that men and women are already equal.

    • @okaydokay9379
      @okaydokay9379 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      I think they mean most women in their prime can have it easy in life when it comes to opportunities and such just by being in their prime. I believe we should fight for human rights but I also see where they’re coming from.

    • @melvinnunez3930
      @melvinnunez3930 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      What about people...

    • @g.b.8041
      @g.b.8041 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      Some of them can barely handle a discussion about basic rights 💀 You’r asking too much lol

    • @nola7921
      @nola7921 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Say it QUEEN speak 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @invaderzim1031
    @invaderzim1031 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    im cryinggg at the close up of quintons face at 16:33 at donovan's yap cause i had the same reaction lolll

  • @arrrrrrarararar5151
    @arrrrrrarararar5151 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    "the easiest way to spot the smartest person in the room is to see who is the most quiet person" - someone smart

    • @once.upon.a.time.
      @once.upon.a.time. หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      "It's better to remain quiet and have people think you a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt." - a misquote of a quote attributed to either Einstein or Twain I forget

  • @sonyawix5871
    @sonyawix5871 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3226

    Kevin is so incredibly mindful and thoughtful, and his overall demeanor is just reassuring.

  • @eraphimriddle3322
    @eraphimriddle3322 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1460

    Kevin is my hero. Also anybody kind of laughing about the fact the men on the feminist side mentioning their girlfriend, wife, daughters and their experiences? Which either speaks for them in a sense that they actually got game or that these people are proud and mindful of their experience with a woman in their life.

    • @mattwilson7443
      @mattwilson7443 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

      Pretty sure two of the a antifemenists are gay and the other two are incels

    • @hugo-zi6gm
      @hugo-zi6gm 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      No sane person uses the word "game" in this context lmaoooo

    • @mhmyuhh
      @mhmyuhh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@mattwilson7443i thought clark was cool? i feel like he was more feminine then anti feminine, clark being the white guy with short blond hair

    • @amber743
      @amber743 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      yeah i found it interesting and funny that besides Clarkson (who is openly gay) the feminist men had more to say about their partners, indicating they actually have them... and it's not a coincidence why lol

    • @OrangeJuice-yo3hl
      @OrangeJuice-yo3hl 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@mattwilson7443man I feel like all of them are gay lol. I'm sitting here like "how does this even effect yall?"

  • @milkycloud.
    @milkycloud. หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    KEVIN IS SO WELL-SPOKEN AND CALM.

  • @andrewmelvin3193
    @andrewmelvin3193 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    I would urge anyone that’s unsure on the issue of abortion, to research Jen Pepples on this.
    ‘Consent to having sex is not consent to becoming pregnant, and consent to becoming pregnant is not consent to remaining pregnant’
    Her and Tracie Harris explain this perfectly 👌

  • @ambercherise2391
    @ambercherise2391 ปีที่แล้ว +4258

    Kevin reminds me of my dad: he doesn’t have to dominate conversation, he listens intently, but when he DOES speak, he spits facts. How respectful.
    EDIT: Thanks for the likes!

    • @aaronaguayo4766
      @aaronaguayo4766 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      he did not speak facts 😂

    • @pc_hmk2204
      @pc_hmk2204 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      ​@@aaronaguayo4766 maybe he did not speak facts that you wanted to listen. 😂😂😂

    • @cam_br0wn426
      @cam_br0wn426 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@pc_hmk2204 he didn’t speak facts. he couldn’t define anything he spoke on, he literally is like a figurehead that’s speaks on what he’s seen other radical feminist say.

    • @astelineart2260
      @astelineart2260 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@cam_br0wn426 Crazy concept that you surround yourself with people you agree with

    • @KmiiVC
      @KmiiVC ปีที่แล้ว +8

      your dad is a great guy

  • @muIberry
    @muIberry 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +649

    "They're losing their spots to compete in beauty paegants"
    "Oh boy."
    😭😭😭😭

    • @gsurf3540
      @gsurf3540 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I felt the sports part but the beauty pageants 😂

    • @markvilstrup4121
      @markvilstrup4121 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Those are actually important to some people. I don't see sports as being any different, it's all just competitions

  • @thelifeless1013
    @thelifeless1013 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    36:42 They skipped over the fact that COMPANIES SHOULDN’T BE OFFERING A DIFFERENT WAGE FROM THE START!

  • @shariqnadeem9134
    @shariqnadeem9134 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I’ll always have 911 on speed dial around Donovan

  • @mik1902
    @mik1902 ปีที่แล้ว +6752

    The way my jaw just dropped when that one guy didn’t believe women should be financially independent from men. Oh my gosh.

    • @mik1902
      @mik1902 ปีที่แล้ว +327

      And his reasoning….. ayayaye 🤦‍♀️

    • @jenniferromero571
      @jenniferromero571 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      What does it matter.

    • @owen3721
      @owen3721 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was the only truly reactionary person there. The other "antifeminists" are just against feminist terminology like "toxic masculinity," "mansplaining," etc. Donovan is the only one who is a true koolaid-drinking traditionalist.

    • @0doublezero0
      @0doublezero0 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      And plenty of feminist women who don't want men to be househusbands.

    • @hanashin7077
      @hanashin7077 ปีที่แล้ว +193

      @@0doublezero0 What? Excuse me? Give me evidence, please. I'll fight you with evidence of the opposite side back!

  • @seloschxd7194
    @seloschxd7194 ปีที่แล้ว +5718

    "when you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."
    - Franklin Leonard

  • @novasmit1701
    @novasmit1701 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The thing I loved the most was that whenever Kevin spoke, everyone in the room was in complete silence

  • @EH-zo9cf
    @EH-zo9cf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I’ve been following Clarkson on Instagram for a couple years now and I love how middle ground he is on a lot of things, how he’s a free thinker who has his own independent views on things but is still brutally honest with his unpopular opinions. I am happy to see that his middle grounded-ness was on display in the debate as well.

  • @mrs.squarepants2868
    @mrs.squarepants2868 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1639

    Thank you Jubilee for giving me an idea about who I should stay away from

    • @13ethirteeni
      @13ethirteeni 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Who?

    • @Juicegoat_
      @Juicegoat_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Just remember these are ideas. Just because they may express a view that you may not enjoy doesn't retract that they are people who may be nicer than you may believe.

    • @ame2395
      @ame2395 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      @@Juicegoat_ if they think that we are innately weaker than them and have life perfect, then i dont want them to downplay my feelings and emotions as "woman weakness". politics DEFINE PEOPLE

    • @mrs.squarepants2868
      @mrs.squarepants2868 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      @@Juicegoat_ Well these ideas are what shape their personalities so there's no going around it.

    • @LookItsDev
      @LookItsDev 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@ame2395 Weaker how though? Physically it’s obvious women are weaker than men. Emotionally, women are stronger than men. We are just different.

  • @alexandraahlen2201
    @alexandraahlen2201 ปีที่แล้ว +8816

    Anyone noticed how when Kevin (the guy on the feminist-side with a black and white jacket) spoke, everyone just stopped and listened without interrupting him? He was so calm so that when he spoke, nobody felt the need to cut him off or anything like that. That guy is a perfect example of why staying calm is the way to win an argument, every single time.

    • @Fernanda-vq8pq
      @Fernanda-vq8pq ปีที่แล้ว +62

      yess!!

    • @CalmInTheMidstOfChaos
      @CalmInTheMidstOfChaos ปีที่แล้ว +366

      The softest spoken person in the room is always the most powerful.

    • @markrojo9099
      @markrojo9099 ปีที่แล้ว +212

      hes fine asf LMAOSOAO

    • @robinfox4440
      @robinfox4440 ปีที่แล้ว

      Feminists are usually the ones who get angry and cut you off when arguing with them, no matter how calmly you point something out. It's impossible to argue with ideologues.

    • @laurelleparsonage689
      @laurelleparsonage689 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CalmInTheMidstOfChaos unless your a woman cuz then you are scientifically more likely to get spoken over or interpreted

  • @BrookeONeill-qt1rh
    @BrookeONeill-qt1rh หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    i love quinten going the "hold on, hold on" as people try to interrupt him. say your part king. don't let them do that to you.

  • @mikrobotanical8835
    @mikrobotanical8835 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    30:17 The zooms on Tuckers 😐 face while Donovan is talking got me giggling

  • @iggyAmazing
    @iggyAmazing ปีที่แล้ว +4022

    "if a woman feels intimidated, that's on her" was my breaking point this video

    • @datsko6339
      @datsko6339 ปีที่แล้ว +199

      Its true though. You can feel any certain way about whatever. It's not everyone else's job to make sure that you aren't offended all the time

    • @butchcoolidge2533
      @butchcoolidge2533 ปีที่แล้ว +930

      @@datsko6339 offended and intimidated are two very different words, my dude. If people feel intimidated around you, that's 100% on you and not them. Sorry!

    • @datsko6339
      @datsko6339 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      @@butchcoolidge2533 no. If you are trying to be intimidating, that’s on you. If you are intimidated, that’s also on you

    • @butchcoolidge2533
      @butchcoolidge2533 ปีที่แล้ว +362

      @@datsko6339 I don't understand how that makes sense to you at all lmao. If someone is beating you for no reason, is getting beaten up on you too? Bizarre way of thinking

    • @datsko6339
      @datsko6339 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      @@butchcoolidge2533 that’s completely different. If you are intimidated by someone who isn’t trying to be intimidating, that’s on you. That’s not the other person’s fault.

  • @ShootyMcBirb
    @ShootyMcBirb ปีที่แล้ว +5349

    I can't describe how happy I was when no one stepped out on the ''period pain is over-exaggerated''

    • @skylerbarrett2931
      @skylerbarrett2931 ปีที่แล้ว +482

      Bare minimum.

    • @makesmewannadie647
      @makesmewannadie647 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Oh yeah

    • @Hector-bj3ls
      @Hector-bj3ls ปีที่แล้ว +131

      I mean it's not like anyone there could answer either way, so them not stepping out doesn't mean they disagree. They have no way to know. In fact, no woman can answer that either. You can only feel your own pain.

    • @ShootyMcBirb
      @ShootyMcBirb ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@Hector-bj3ls i get really bad cramps. I cannot function with them on the first day (they usually disappear after the third day for me), I know some boys who just bully girls when they ask for some pain killers.

    • @Hector-bj3ls
      @Hector-bj3ls ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@ShootyMcBirb Well those boys are assholes then. If my wife claims she's in pain then I'm inclined to believe her and do my best to find some way to relieve it. I don't know if she's telling the truth or not, but I give her the benefit of the doubt.
      If some random woman tells me she's in pain then I will say something like "sorry to hear that", but that's about it. I have no obligation to help her. Again, I don't know if she really is in pain or not, but it's nothing to do with me and I'll leave her to it. Unless there is clearly something very wrong. In which case I'd call an ambulance or something.

  • @superchef_trades4213
    @superchef_trades4213 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Lmao the moderator bossing them around 🤣🤣🤣 she’s honestly doing a wonderful job

  • @tedimihailova6404
    @tedimihailova6404 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    12:45 “I promise you if you did that it would be just fine” cracked me up, bro dropped the hardest line, proved his point and ended the conversation in one sentence

  • @gabriellecollier6235
    @gabriellecollier6235 ปีที่แล้ว +2846

    Nobody says nothing back to Kevin cause he’s so calm and has amazing responses, props to him.

    • @danimotherofchickens479
      @danimotherofchickens479 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Is he the patriarchy guy? Cause it was just because he sounded brain washed

    • @gaceofspades
      @gaceofspades ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@danimotherofchickens479 he is the one in the flannel thing

    • @brinsley4599
      @brinsley4599 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Kevin really was amazing, totally impressed me

    • @hollywoodsdeadd
      @hollywoodsdeadd ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@danimotherofchickens479 Lol… ok girl

    • @sankofax8082
      @sankofax8082 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      or cause the anti-feminist part is more listening

  • @t.olofsson9020
    @t.olofsson9020 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5371

    Being a woman and listening to all these random men put words in our mouths about how we feel, think etc… Is really weird and uncomfortable for some reason

    • @bor3db625
      @bor3db625 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +168

      i think its hilarious honestly

    • @Bleyk01
      @Bleyk01 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah no one asked you dishwasher

    • @maas5307
      @maas5307 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +232

      they think they can speak for us which is disgusting

    • @joyxiuee
      @joyxiuee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      Its taste awful😂

    • @Loren-fo3wm
      @Loren-fo3wm 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      yeah this video made my stomach hurt a little bit

  • @gabril7297
    @gabril7297 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Saying in first place that you’re antifeminist already tells a lot about your ability of misunderstanding such a simple principle.

    • @The.rapist911
      @The.rapist911 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      if you're anti-feminist you're a fan of the truth go cry abt it

    • @yawnzzn1206
      @yawnzzn1206 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@The.rapist911 username adds up

    • @The.rapist911
      @The.rapist911 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@yawnzzn1206 No argument detected opinion rejected

  • @user-nh1dj6co4p
    @user-nh1dj6co4p 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    some of the answers literally had me in tears of sadness because of the ignorance and lack of knowledge some of them had