As a neutral observer that is concerned with what’s going on with both sides it’s extremely concerning to me the language that Israelis and Palestinians use to describe one other. It’s as if you don’t see one another as human beings. The things being said about Palestinians by Israeli politicians and celebrities is alarming. Instead of trying to win a PR war why not open your mind and heart and see innocent men, women, and children on both sides as human. Hamas needs to be dealt with however there is no need to dehumanize the Palestinians and conflate them with Hamas. I fear Israel with its actions is creating a new extreme version of Hamas for generations to come. My prayer is that when enough people have been killed bold new leaders from both sides will bring a lasting and just peace with dignity to both Israelis and Palestinians.
No need to correctly associate Palestinians with Hamas.. Are you 🥜 Palestinians have been killing civilians in Israel since 1950 continuously. That is way before Hamas existed. Have you ever heard about PLO and Fatah. Terrorists organizations by Palestinians. Have you ever heard about Palestinian and PLO in Jordan 1970, where they did the same claim to Jordan as they are now making towards Israel 🇮🇱 King Hussein of Jordan sent his army to sort it out. 25,000 Palestinian casualties. In Egypt the Palestinians tried to assassinate the President, and was terrorizing the country in general. The latter was the reason Egypt closed their border to Gaza at the same time as the Israelis. But in the news, Israel is blamed for isolating Gaza and not let anything in. Conveniently forgetting the sea side of Gaza and the fact that the Palestinians caused it by themselves. Huh, what? Yea they voted for Hamas in a free public election that had international observers…! Sure that doesn’t connect Palestinians to Hamas!? The demonstrations around the world with women in headscarfs screaming death to Israel 🇮🇱 is all Hamas I guess then. The woman who stabbed a female law enforcement officer to death in Jerusalem- Palestinian. The thing is that I visited Jerusalem and Tel Aviv 1989. A Palestinian stabbed a Jew to death in Jerusalem during my visit. Palestinian suicide bombers blew up buses with civilian Israelis in it. We were expressly warned that Palestinians were raiding the coast lines of Israel, and had performed assaults on the beaches of Tel Aviv including hotels with foreign tourists. To scare international visitors and this hurt Israel’s economy. You are either an Arab or an easily fooled person. Get your facts straight
You know nothing and have learned nothing from October 7. This is not about land it’s only ever been about extermination of Yisrael and the Jewish people. You’re applying a false narrative to justify your claims and values.
@@SabiAllMy point remains. Both sides are human beings and deserve to live in dignity and peace. When enough people have died and the exhaustion sets in maybe then it will be time for a lasting peace where dignity and humanity prevails.
Mister jdsthird, I agree with you whole heartedly. We are indeed in the midst of an extremely intense war! The victim count is sky high. It needs to stop. Is it possible that you are a victim of this brutal war? The vicious PR war is targeting innocent civilians like me and you. It really needs to stop! I, for one, don't appreciate being targeted by heavy bombardment of tactical missiles designed to violate my human rights and to force me take sides in this unfair war. How about you? What's your take on this alarming phenomena?
It’s because their side is materially right. PR can go a long way (75 years) but as another communications expert once said, “You can fool some of the people all the time, you can fool all the people some of the time, but you can’t fool all the people all the time.” In the US the talking points and hasbara dialogue trees have been working less and less and when the main strategy shifted to coercion, blacklisting, blackmail, and bad faith accusations of antisemitism it spelled the eventual end of US public support. It started to piss people off and give them righteous indignation - which means motivated.
@@bdalack Maybe you're right. Maybe with enough focus groups and marketing gurus looking at wordclouds for enough time they will come up with the perfect slogan that makes colonial dispossession palatable to enough people. Maybe!
Jesus Christ. You actually think Hamas and the Arab Palestinian national project aren't antisemitic? Good grief have you been miseducated by the wokesters and Dawa footsoldiers. Also check out how much the Qatari govt that shelters Hamas and their billionaire leaders have donated to your commie "decolonislism" studies departments. The kids miseducated by this crock may or may not come to their senses before learning how to grow up and get jobs in the real world. But if not maybe the Iranian foreign ministry will hire them.
If they're right then Western civilization is wrong. And the nation-state model may as well be replaced by a theocratic empire that kills apostates, taxes Christians and Jews, endorses armed "struggle"/violence for the sake of religious honor, and excuses or even commits any atrocity imaginable in the name of all of the above.
No mention of West Bank settler violence or Netenyahoos funding of Hamas ,or overuse of dumb bombs on Gaza. Poor evidence re Hamas use of Al Shifa hospital. No good evidence of Idf warning system to Gazans,pamphletsand texts.
With 39 Muslim nations, & 1 Jewish nation; w 2 billion Muslims world wide, & less than 16 million Jews world wide, it's no wonder that the pr is slanted on the Palestinians' side. The ratio; 1 Jew to 150 Muslims.
The most important is actually words. Not images. Words like have a big symbolic value. Like colonialism, oppression, genocide, freedom, are used very successfully by those against Israel and Jews. They are emotional, and create feeling of injustice. And the geneva convention or international law are too logic and non emotional. How can you make them more emotional?
Killing hostages because they are thought to be Palestinians isn’t helping. And killing a mother and daughter in a church in Gaza isn’t helping either. The rising civilian death toll is breathtaking and extraordinary. This conflict will be resolved politically and not militarily. Stop 🛑 combining Hamas with civilians in Gaza. Women and children will never be accepted as collateral damage in war.
I agree about the three dead hostages. But I disagree about everything else. Women and children tend to be the most vulnerable in war situations. Hamas knew that when they started war against Israel. Israel is not responsible for casualties in Gaza, Hamas is.
We think Israel has a right to defend itself. We also think Netanyahu and his cronies are leading the country into the abyss. Two wrongs will never make a right. The world can not stomach the slaughter of innocent civilians, women, and children on either side. It’s not acceptable to drop 2000 pound bombs in residential neighborhoods and say it’s Hamas’s fault. The state that dropped the bomb and made them are to blame. This conflict will be resolved politically and not military. New leaders are needed on both sides to conclude a lasting and just peace where both Israelis and Palestinians can live in dignity and security. One can not dominate and/or subjugate the other. That’s the past. A way forward is needed.
Who are these volunteer groups? And why would Israel need to win PR battle? The IDF killing hostages because they think they are Palestinians who are surrendering doesn’t help. Killing a mother and daughter inside a church in Gaza doesn’t help either. These reported incidents along with the rising civilian death toll is what is alarming people around the world. This conflict needs a political solution and won’t be solved militarily. Only one side has a state. One side needs to change the dynamic in the region.
@@jdsthird I agree. Hamas needs to change. The citizens of Gaza need to change. Gazans need to remove Hamas from Gaza and elect themselves leadership who will benefit the Gazans, and the citizens have access to all the humanitarian aid sent to them.
@@jdsthirdPlease tell me if you ever served in a war, not just in a military? When did you last sleep on a concrete floor in a shelled out building, waking up after 3 hours to take guard duty? Eating MREs, not showering, blisters on your feet, possibly scratched and wounded, carrying a 40 pound pack as you are walking through booby-trapped fields and tunnels.
@@shainazion4073 You know what most Israelis say when innocent civilians are killed in Gaza or the West Bank? It’s war. They are collateral damage. It’s Hamas’s fault. If the soldiers can’t handle the war zone they need to be relieved of duty. This conflict won’t be resolved militarily. It requires a political solution to ensure a lasting peace with dignity for both Israelis and Palestinians. At some point after both sides get tired of the death and destruction they will move forward and make a better future that includes both living side by side in security and peace. Both sides need bold new leaders because their current ones failed their people.
I have been pro Israel as long as I can remember. I also happen to have worked many years in marketing and promotion modeling. My observation is that Israel is not doing anything wrong. The world is against Israel because of antismetism. The stigma against Jews is as old as time itself. Jews need to keep doing what they’re doing. Those that are going to believe and stand with Israel will do so regardless of PR strategy. The truth will always speak for itself and will hold up against time. If there is one thing I can recommend is that Jews in media and entertainment have a lot of power on public opinion. Most of Hollywood is Jewish. Where are all the Jewish celebrities? Including Pink, Drake, Scarlet Johansson. They need to be speaking up for themselves and their country. It’s crazy to see the people being the most vocal pro Israel are Christians.
If they're young they've either been swept into the woke commie anti Israel vortex or are too afraid of backlash. Most of the problem is the same as what Europe is dealing with but as you can see that's difficult to confront without being labeled as fascist or right wing. Islamic supremacism has been normalized in the world covertly, and only now is Europe learning how overt its messengers are willing to be about their embrace of it.
WOW, your head in in the sand. Killing 20,000 + people 10,000 children is "doing NOTHING wrong"??? "Sparta on the Med's" ZIONIST days are numbered because it will be a pariah state in the world after this "war" is over.
I honestly think that it will be necessary to resort to analogies to the things differentt entities are doing regarding the position Israel has been put in. Without exposing the role the Arab world has payed in keeping Gazans concentrated around Hamas fighters, Israel will never overcome the PR aftermath of the bombing campaign. Specifically the refusal to offer Gazans any haven from the war, which would easily be done while ensuring they can return to Gaza later. Surrounding countries could be sending medical ships, cruise ships, freight ships to enable civilians to get relief away from thriving Hamas. Hamas and the Arab world have played a huge role in the magnitude of the destruction and death toll, and only a part of the world understands that.
This is pretty pathetic. Laughable really. I expected a deeper and more nuance discussion from this organization. If this is representative of the level of discourse, if this man is representative of Israeli "experts", then it's obvious why Israel is losing the propoganda war.
Bingo. This is not even a surprise because it’s written in the Bible. Jesus said very well the world will hate you. He did not say that to Christians. He said that to his Jewish followers.
As a neutral observer that is concerned with what’s going on with both sides it’s extremely concerning to me the language that Israelis and Palestinians use to describe one other. It’s as if you don’t see one another as human beings. The things being said about Palestinians by Israeli politicians and celebrities is alarming. Instead of trying to win a PR war why not open your mind and heart and see innocent men, women, and children on both sides as human. Hamas needs to be dealt with however there is no need to dehumanize the Palestinians and conflate them with Hamas. I fear Israel with its actions is creating a new extreme version of Hamas for generations to come.
My prayer is that when enough people have been killed bold new leaders from both sides will bring a lasting and just peace with dignity to both Israelis and Palestinians.
No need to correctly associate Palestinians with Hamas..
Are you 🥜
Palestinians have been killing civilians in Israel since 1950 continuously.
That is way before Hamas existed.
Have you ever heard about PLO and Fatah. Terrorists organizations by Palestinians.
Have you ever heard about Palestinian and PLO in Jordan 1970, where they did the same claim to Jordan as they are now making towards Israel 🇮🇱
King Hussein of Jordan sent his army to sort it out. 25,000 Palestinian casualties. In Egypt the Palestinians tried to assassinate the President, and was terrorizing the country in general.
The latter was the reason Egypt closed their border to Gaza at the same time as the Israelis.
But in the news, Israel is blamed for isolating Gaza and not let anything in. Conveniently forgetting the sea side of Gaza and the fact that the Palestinians caused it by themselves.
Huh, what?
Yea they voted for Hamas in a free public election that had international observers…!
Sure that doesn’t connect Palestinians to Hamas!?
The demonstrations around the world with women in headscarfs screaming death to Israel 🇮🇱 is all Hamas I guess then.
The woman who stabbed a female law enforcement officer to death in Jerusalem- Palestinian.
The thing is that I visited Jerusalem and Tel Aviv 1989.
A Palestinian stabbed a Jew to death in Jerusalem during my visit. Palestinian suicide bombers blew up buses with civilian Israelis in it.
We were expressly warned that Palestinians were raiding the coast lines of Israel, and had performed assaults on the beaches of Tel Aviv including hotels with foreign tourists. To scare international visitors and this hurt Israel’s economy.
You are either an Arab or an easily fooled person.
Get your facts straight
You know nothing and have learned nothing from October 7. This is not about land it’s only ever been about extermination of Yisrael and the Jewish people. You’re applying a false narrative to justify your claims and values.
There are no two sides. And even there were, they are Not on an even playing field. Pray all you want. Occupation is occupation.
@@SabiAllMy point remains. Both sides are human beings and deserve to live in dignity and peace. When enough people have died and the exhaustion sets in maybe then it will be time for a lasting peace where dignity and humanity prevails.
Mister jdsthird,
I agree with you whole heartedly. We are indeed in the midst of an extremely intense war! The victim count is sky high. It needs to stop. Is it possible that you are a victim of this brutal war? The vicious PR war is targeting innocent civilians like me and you. It really needs to stop!
I, for one, don't appreciate being targeted by heavy bombardment of tactical missiles designed to violate my human rights and to force me take sides in this unfair war. How about you? What's your take on this alarming phenomena?
It’s because their side is materially right. PR can go a long way (75 years) but as another communications expert once said, “You can fool some of the people all the time, you can fool all the people some of the time, but you can’t fool all the people all the time.” In the US the talking points and hasbara dialogue trees have been working less and less and when the main strategy shifted to coercion, blacklisting, blackmail, and bad faith accusations of antisemitism it spelled the eventual end of US public support. It started to piss people off and give them righteous indignation - which means motivated.
BS
@@bdalack Maybe you're right. Maybe with enough focus groups and marketing gurus looking at wordclouds for enough time they will come up with the perfect slogan that makes colonial dispossession palatable to enough people. Maybe!
Jesus Christ. You actually think Hamas and the Arab Palestinian national project aren't antisemitic? Good grief have you been miseducated by the wokesters and Dawa footsoldiers. Also check out how much the Qatari govt that shelters Hamas and their billionaire leaders have donated to your commie "decolonislism" studies departments. The kids miseducated by this crock may or may not come to their senses before learning how to grow up and get jobs in the real world. But if not maybe the Iranian foreign ministry will hire them.
If they're right then Western civilization is wrong. And the nation-state model may as well be replaced by a theocratic empire that kills apostates, taxes Christians and Jews, endorses armed "struggle"/violence for the sake of religious honor, and excuses or even commits any atrocity imaginable in the name of all of the above.
No mention of West Bank settler violence or Netenyahoos funding of Hamas ,or overuse of dumb bombs on Gaza. Poor evidence re Hamas use of Al Shifa hospital. No good evidence of Idf warning system to Gazans,pamphletsand texts.
I never watch the bias BBC. I am 75 and get my news from TH-cam, especially Mahyar Tousi who is very trustworthy. Love from England
With 39 Muslim nations, & 1 Jewish nation; w 2 billion Muslims world wide, & less than 16 million Jews world wide, it's no wonder that the pr is slanted on the Palestinians' side.
The ratio; 1 Jew to 150 Muslims.
Baruch HaShem & Shalom!!! TRUTH vs LIES… Thank you for more insight and truth!
The most important is actually words. Not images. Words like have a big symbolic value. Like colonialism, oppression, genocide, freedom, are used very successfully by those against Israel and Jews. They are emotional, and create feeling of injustice. And the geneva convention or international law are too logic and non emotional. How can you make them more emotional?
Killing hostages because they are thought to be Palestinians isn’t helping. And killing a mother and daughter in a church in Gaza isn’t helping either. The rising civilian death toll is breathtaking and extraordinary. This conflict will be resolved politically and not militarily. Stop 🛑 combining Hamas with civilians in Gaza. Women and children will never be accepted as collateral damage in war.
But they are accepted as victims of rape, murder and terrorism if they are Jewish
@jdsthird well spoken!
I agree about the three dead hostages. But I disagree about everything else. Women and children tend to be the most vulnerable in war situations. Hamas knew that when they started war against Israel. Israel is not responsible for casualties in Gaza, Hamas is.
We have to learn how they think but act more humanely
We think Israel has a right to defend itself. We also think Netanyahu and his cronies are leading the country into the abyss. Two wrongs will never make a right. The world can not stomach the slaughter of innocent civilians, women, and children on either side. It’s not acceptable to drop 2000 pound bombs in residential neighborhoods and say it’s Hamas’s fault. The state that dropped the bomb and made them are to blame.
This conflict will be resolved politically and not military. New leaders are needed on both sides to conclude a lasting and just peace where both Israelis and Palestinians can live in dignity and security. One can not dominate and/or subjugate the other. That’s the past. A way forward is needed.
"Could Israel win the PR Battle?"
There are volunteer groups who are addressing Israel PR.
Why not volunteer for such a group?
Who are these volunteer groups? And why would Israel need to win PR battle? The IDF killing hostages because they think they are Palestinians who are surrendering doesn’t help. Killing a mother and daughter inside a church in Gaza doesn’t help either. These reported incidents along with the rising civilian death toll is what is alarming people around the world. This conflict needs a political solution and won’t be solved militarily. Only one side has a state. One side needs to change the dynamic in the region.
@@jdsthird I agree. Hamas needs to change.
The citizens of Gaza need to change.
Gazans need to remove Hamas from Gaza and elect themselves leadership who will benefit the Gazans, and the citizens have access to all the humanitarian aid sent to them.
I don’t think Israel needs any PR to prove anything. I am pro Israel and against Islamist terrorism. And that’s that.
@@jdsthirdPlease tell me if you ever served in a war, not just in a military? When did you last sleep on a concrete floor in a shelled out building, waking up after 3 hours to take guard duty? Eating MREs, not showering, blisters on your feet, possibly scratched and wounded, carrying a 40 pound pack as you are walking through booby-trapped fields and tunnels.
@@shainazion4073 You know what most Israelis say when innocent civilians are killed in Gaza or the West Bank? It’s war. They are collateral damage. It’s Hamas’s fault. If the soldiers can’t handle the war zone they need to be relieved of duty. This conflict won’t be resolved militarily. It requires a political solution to ensure a lasting peace with dignity for both Israelis and Palestinians. At some point after both sides get tired of the death and destruction they will move forward and make a better future that includes both living side by side in security and peace. Both sides need bold new leaders because their current ones failed their people.
I have been pro Israel as long as I can remember. I also happen to have worked many years in marketing and promotion modeling. My observation is that Israel is not doing anything wrong. The world is against Israel because of antismetism. The stigma against Jews is as old as time itself. Jews need to keep doing what they’re doing. Those that are going to believe and stand with Israel will do so regardless of PR strategy. The truth will always speak for itself and will hold up against time. If there is one thing I can recommend is that Jews in media and entertainment have a lot of power on public opinion. Most of Hollywood is Jewish. Where are all the Jewish celebrities? Including Pink, Drake, Scarlet Johansson. They need to be speaking up for themselves and their country. It’s crazy to see the people being the most vocal pro Israel are Christians.
If they're young they've either been swept into the woke commie anti Israel vortex or are too afraid of backlash. Most of the problem is the same as what Europe is dealing with but as you can see that's difficult to confront without being labeled as fascist or right wing. Islamic supremacism has been normalized in the world covertly, and only now is Europe learning how overt its messengers are willing to be about their embrace of it.
WOW, your head in in the sand. Killing 20,000 + people 10,000 children is "doing NOTHING wrong"??? "Sparta on the Med's" ZIONIST days are numbered because it will be a pariah state in the world after this "war" is over.
I honestly think that it will be necessary to resort to analogies to the things differentt entities are doing regarding the position Israel has been put in. Without exposing the role the Arab world has payed in keeping Gazans concentrated around Hamas fighters, Israel will never overcome the PR aftermath of the bombing campaign. Specifically the refusal to offer Gazans any haven from the war, which would easily be done while ensuring they can return to Gaza later. Surrounding countries could be sending medical ships, cruise ships, freight ships to enable civilians to get relief away from thriving Hamas.
Hamas and the Arab world have played a huge role in the magnitude of the destruction and death toll, and only a part of the world understands that.
This is pretty pathetic. Laughable really. I expected a deeper and more nuance discussion from this organization. If this is representative of the level of discourse, if this man is representative of Israeli "experts", then it's obvious why Israel is losing the propoganda war.
Don’t forget the spiritual aspect!
Bingo. This is not even a surprise because it’s written in the Bible. Jesus said very well the world will hate you. He did not say that to Christians. He said that to his Jewish followers.
Perception identifies Fiction and Nonfiction!
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"israel" is not only losing the PR hasbara battle
"israel" is LOSING. Period.
*I hope gullible people will trust you for everything you tell Them*