As a Romanian you should know that Russian army invaded Romania (like with all eastern Europe) and installed a "communist" regime over-night, having a Russian secret agent at the top of the "communist" party. The economy was dictated by Russia and there was never any Democracy. And the 1968 invasion of Czechoslovakia was because it wanted to break free from the Russian influence/block. So the USSR era was an extension of the Russian Empire, that's why Russia revers Lenin. Oh, and we also had countless deaths, and Moldova had entire trains deported to Siberia. Why? Because of Communism? No, because of the expansion of Russia. Communism by definition means "the working people own and control the means of production", and right from the start it was the opposite (a dictatorship).
@@ubuntuposix nu sunt in totalitate de acord cu tine dar iti dau dreptate cu privire la optica prin care ideologia comunista NU reprezentat o baza pt aparitia gulagurilor sau pentru repatrierile facute in interiorul URSS ului. Am observat in ultimii ani, ca americanii sunt obsedati de ideologie si venereaza ideoligia ca fiind alfa si omega cand in realitate multe manevre sunt infaptuite pt scopuri mult mai practice decat ideologia. Pt noi, restul planetei, ideologia este doar un instrument pentru a obtine putere, pt americani ideologia a devenit bible de urmat la punct si virgula. Multe din manevrele realizate in Europa, est sau vest, au avut o motivatie geopolitica la radacina, si, uneori, vendet personale. Altedati au reprezentat conspiratii in purul sens al cuvantului. Dar aproape niciodata ideologia a nu a reprezentat litera de lege pt votanti. Si in momentul de fata votul, in cea mai mare parte a sa, in Ro si in restul Europei, este dat impotriva cuiva nu pt cineva. Ideologia e doar o pacaleala pe care americanii o musca din ce in ce mai din plin.
@@darthcarnage6734 While Americans take a moment of silence and weeping about the "Communist" era in Eastern Europe, the actual people who lived there and in those times are 50% saying it was better back then. Personally I can't find a person on my street who doesn't say that it was way better back then and that capitalists destroyed the entire industry. I too grew up in the "Communist" era, I'm born in 1984 (and the system got replaced by US-Capitalism in 1990) and I can tell you there was and is massive US propaganda to discredit Communism. Even back in that period, there was a "Free Europe Radio" which was a US state owned non-commercial radio designed for anti-communist propaganda.
They mean their friends who got a free education in medicine in Cuba but then came to America to exploit a for profit healthcare system, while screwing over Americans who paid (or went into debt) for their education.
@@Vandal_Savage unfortunately many continue to live there, with the misfortune of not being able to say what they think and not being able to fight to change it
My Cuban friend is the most hardcore American I know. Its crazy and so respectable- reminds me what being an American is supposed to be about. (Edited to say my friend is American born but his parents left Cuba)
“One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship.” George Orwell
Orwell would have rejected Peterson's defense of hierarchy and traditional structures. Orwell critiqued all forms of authoritarianism (including christianity in its current politicized perversion) and believed in collective action for justice, not reinforcing the very systems that perpetuate inequality. Peterson’s rhetoric aligns more with maintaining the status quo than challenging it... Instead, he identified with democratic socialism, particularly the kind that advocates for a mix of social equality, individual freedom, and political democracy. Not really what Peterson's about because he calls it "communism" and "stalinist" whenever it's about protecting minorities and LGBQT+ people Indeed: Orwell was deeply concerned with the use of language as a tool of political control and believed that controlling language could limit individual freedom and thought. This suggests that he would likely be wary of any forced language or pronoun use that could be imposed in a way that restricts personal freedom or expression. At the same time, Orwell was committed to equality and social justice, and he criticized all forms of oppression, whether based on class, race, or gender. If he were alive today, he might recognize the importance of gender pronouns as a way to affirm individuals' identities and respect their autonomy. His support for individual freedom and autonomy would likely extend to supporting the rights of people to define and express their gender identity as they see fit. In summary, while Orwell did not directly engage with the issue of gender pronouns, his commitment to freedom of expression, social justice, and resistance to authoritarian control suggests that he would likely support the respectful use of gender pronouns as a way of affirming individual identity.
He's a beacon of ignorance. It didn't cross his mind that the USSR was an extension of the Russian Empire (which invaded militarily all the countries of Eastern Europe to install "Communist" regimes, having Russian Agents at the top). The 1968 CzechoSlovakian invasion was because it wanted to break free from the Russian influenced block. And what he says in the end is so ignorant.. "you think you understand the Marxist doctrine (to implement Communism)". It doesn't cross his mind that you don't have to be a Marxist to be a Communist, in fact if you read Marx and Engels, you realize they are just critics of Capitalism, don't take the time to explain HOW would the working class rule (which is essentially the definition of Communism), but they do take the time to criticize real rational Communist thinkers. It doesn't cross his mind that if you have the US against you (sanctioning, agents infiltrating the country) anywhere, the Gov is forced to take Martial Law like measures, terrorizing people with secret police, while the county is getting crushed by the embargo/sanctions. It doesn't cross his mind that there can be a Rational Democracy. That any thug Dictator can pretend that the people are doing the ruling, thus its a "Communist" regime.
My parents escaped Mao’s communism. They suffered true famine when they lived there. Yet my mother, because of propaganda, still things that the real person behind Mao’s tyranny was his wife, because Mao was old already… And despite the CCP having control over China still today, she doesn’t believe China is under a Communist government. It’s literally called communist party… many Chinese people also will never know about what happened in Tianamen.
you hear a similar story from Russian immigrants- they claim their parents are often also apologists and clearly misinformed. When the state has direct control of all the information people receive its hard to be surprised the citizens believe whatever the state says. Especially when everything else seems normal to them- and it does because the state has made sure of its normality.
Scary and sad how the human mind works and believing what your eyes see isn't necessarily what the true reality is and it is because of this that totalitarianism communism authoritism can easily flourish
@@dawnt7664 there was a huge gathering of university students and regular folks who over the course of weeks were asking for new freedoms. The communist party feeling threatened sent in the army on 4 June 1989 and there were a lot of deaths.
I wish people took human nature more seriously. These ideas become much more obvious when a clinical psychologist/professor/philosopher explains it over hundreds of hours of content. Peterson cares about history and is devoted to the philosophy of science, but he has not lost his soul. He's a rare "moral" scientist. Please share his content as much as possible.
Right-wingers care about fake history and erasing history. Just look at all their bickering over Critical Race Theory. Sad, bigoted people. By the way, Socialism is good. BLM.
I lived in West Berlin in 1989. The people then were moving east to west, there was no migration of West Berliners to East Berlin. The wall opened on November 9, and the East Berliners all came pouring into the Western Sectors of the city, each one intent on seeing and experiencing everything that had long been denied them. Until that day I never saw East Berliners smiling. In my many trips there before the Wall came down, the best term to describe their faces was scowling. After unification, the former western parts (and only them) of Germany poured in over 30 trillion D-Marks ($19.2 trillion dollars) over 30 years to raise the quality of life in the former East Germany, and that still hasn’t been enough to right communism’s wrongs there-it’ll take generations for that to happen. There’s no better way to destroy the budding idea of communism in people than to describe its own past horrors. Communism destroys and/or enslaves all it touches, it must be seen as the malignancy that it is and dealt with honestly. There has never been a successful Marxist-Leninist government to this day.
No wonder when the countries, which exploited the whole world for centuries have a higher standard of life. Communism kiiled millions, capitalism kills billions and the count continues.
@@Incognito334 There are no communist countries, as there will be no countries in a communist society. If you mean a socialist country, then it very much depends, what countries I’ll be able to choose from.
@@wayne4104communism kill trillions. According to your standard of judging capitalism die by counting “every day population that dead from disease”, communism kill way more than 100 million. Just look at how India and china in 80s restrict the born of babies in each family, you can already image how many unborn babies are killed by communism
it is true, only during 1959-62, around 50millions death in china by Maoism. not to mention the late on culture revolution leads to similar number of death in about 10 years. ccp will never give you a real number, but I have several friends who collected data in county level and put things together. unfortunately their results will never been published.
Yeah really, we in the west think that Hitler was the worst maybe because we have a fairly accurate body count but it doesn’t hold a candle to the communists.
@@nOOn3nOOn3 Accusations of cherry picking should be backed up by the demonstration of a larger picture. What about those numbers were cherry picked? What stats were manipulated? I wouldn't be surprised if maybe the numbers were exaggerated, however the difference between 40 and 50 million does not make the picture for the CCP look much better. And Binjamin S kinda of crapping on China is not unfounded. The CCP has a history of policies which shot itself in the foot. I.e. burning down all cultural relics they had in the Cultural Revolution (such that China does not have much cultural relevance and has westernized with authoritarian characteristics), banging pots and pans 24/7 to kill the birds via exhaustion (resulting in famine, since the boogs ate all the crops), the one child policy, etc. Not to mention current policies too.
And all they ever taught us about in school was the Nazis and a supposed 6 million. Who runs our schools? "Universal education is the most corroding and disintegrating poison that liberalism has ever invented for its own destruction". -A.H.
My parents were socialists, but they never, ever called themselves such. They (my father mostly) just spoke warmly of Cuba and the USSR. It took me well into my forties before I came to terms with that, and began to reflect how these belief system affected our family and world view.
I hope the DW doesn't monopolize Jordan. It's great he's joining them but my first thought was that all his videos are going to be pulled from YT and be on DW+ now.
@@firingallcylinders2949 i actually made a comment on a video 2 days ago that JP responded to. I expressed my disappointment that it seems like much of the newer long form content/interviews are being cut off with the rest being put on DailyWire and thus behind a paywall and he basically said that TH-cam content will remain on TH-cam.
Chinas population went from 400m to 900m under Mao Zedong. Men Lie, woman Lie, numbers don’t. May the revolutionary spirit of Mao Zedong live on forever
The reference to Possesed / Devils book is incredible. I vividly remember one part, where a cell of revolutionaries were discussing how overthrown the state and there was one professor amongs them, who said that he wrote a book where he explained it all. And no matter how noble their intentions and words about freedom are, not matter what they do, they will end up with tyrany. I remember this part, because Dostoyevsky understood nature of communism and decribed it in his absolute brilliance in one sentence. If there is anything what you should know about communism, it is this: "No matter how noble your intentions are, no matter what you do, you will end up with tyranny."
Without any opposition we will always push for more power. It makes me wonder, is tyranny eventually always inevitable?? Checks and balances keep corruption at bay for the longest time but there will always be powerful people tht conspire in the shadows and others tht can be bought
@@goldtiger9453 that was not the point. The point was that in order to achieve communism you need to introduce policies which are tyrannical. There is no other way of achieving it. The nobility of your intentions are irrelevant, because you can promise freedom, fairness and absolute equality, but in order to do so you need to crush individuality which produces all sorts of inenequalities. And I disagree that every political system is resulting in tyranny. Or at least they do not need tyranny to function, while communist state cannot function without tyranny.
@@capollyon I get your point and i agree communism is the worst, its also sneaky. My point is tht powerful people will always overstep.Once the few have absolute power tyranny seems like the natural endgame. Democratic Republics take longer to corrupt but inch by inch it will happen. Lol kinda like the plot to starwars
The fundamental problem is that collectivism - communism - always places all of the power in the state, and therefore in the hands of few or possibly one person. And as we know with human nature, absolute power corrupts absolutely, and tyranny will always be the outcome.
As a Czech person who was born to the Czechoslovakian Socialist Republic I approve this message and those of the Vietnamese, Polish, Lithuanian and all other messages of this sorts! When I see ‘young communists’ or someone with Che on their t-shirt in countries that did not experience communism, I feel a horrible rage over their insulting arrogance!
lol you didn't experience communism. You experienced russian imperialism. The difference between the USSR and the Tzar was that the soviets were more industrialized and had enough manpower and weapons to conquer all of eastern europe, while tzarist russia could barely invade poland
@@SatchelChannel barely invade?? They literally split the country between them and their foreign friends, held the power for 123 years, murdered and oppressed millions of people and actively tried to annihilate polish culture.
I was born in People's Republic of Poland. Strictly speaking we only tried to build communism - the 'true one', however, it took us about 40 years to realize this was impossible.
Imagine being in science or the military back,when they owned the internet before it was let out to the general public. I believe they saw the pitfalls of this technology first hand.
@@migatocomeoscuridad Perhaps, but TH-cam is known for taking a lot of things away that needed to be seen. I wouldn't be surprised if they deleted his content anyway had he not joined the Daily Wire.
daily wire is a dangerous playpen. They are going to get in the way if he ever needs to say anything really really true. Watch how Shapiro was silenced about the election fraud in 2020.
Dr. Peterson is absolutely right. My grandmother was living an ordinary happy life as a university student in pre-communist Romania in the late 1930s, but that all changed in 1940 when the Soviet Union invaded her home region of Bessarabia (modern-day Moldova). She, along with her mother and younger brother and sister, was deported to a gulag concentration camp somewhere in northern Russia, not because they committed any crime, but simply because her father was a businessman (he owned a small shoe factory) and held anti-communist views, which automatically qualified him and anybody even remotely related to him as "enemies of the working class". My grandmother's siblings were later taken away and sent to an orphanage. She met them again only 10 years later in 1950 (her brother later disowned her because he hated Jews and she married my grandfather who was Jewish). Her mother, unfortunately, didn't survive the harsh cold of Siberia and my grandmother had to bury her with her bare hands in that snowy wilderness, without a proper funeral and without a tombstone to mark the grave.
*Thats why I will never get up arms and I will use them to PROTECT me and my family from CRIMINALS, LEFTIST ZEALOTS and the STATE itself if NECESSARY. I'll DIE defending FREEDOM before I will LIVE as a slave*
It kind of sounds like your family were rightists and possible Nazi collaborators considering their stance on Jews and their economic status. I'm willing to bet the conditions in that factory were horrid. They absolutely were enemies of the working class.
"That you understand the Marxist doctrines better than anyone else ever has." That is the thing about Marxists. They usually believe they are the smartest person in the room.
You mean like Jordan Peterson talking about marxism but having admitted he has never read any of Marx actual works, except for the first few pages of the Manifesto? That kind of a "smart guy"?
Cambodia suffered so much under the communist regime 75-79'. I didn't live through it but my parents did. The trauma that my family and my people live through is unimaginable and to hear people being sympathetic toward any variation of communism boils my blood. Thanks jorden for speaking on this
@@NostalgicMem0ries attempts to build socialism were a century ago in under developed countries under tremendous difficulties . We can't compare it to nowadays .
@@adolescentdeviation133 The same old excuse "But that wasn't real Socialism/Communism". Yes, it was. Both are totalitarian systems that execute any non conformist. do you think it's an accident that there are always the gulags and mass slaughter?
He's actually a great teacher. What joy to live under the same era as these people that can get you to snap right out of illogical thinking under these divided times.
Peterson is profoundly illogical about almost every topic he speaks on. The guy literally called a magazine cover “authoritarian” because he didn’t find her attractive 😂
As a Lithuanian person who grew up under a communist regime and whose family memeber died in Siberian gulags, I approve this message. Kudos to Polish and Romanian guys here.
As a Serbian person who grew up in a lovely Yugoslav socialist society based on communist principles nurtered away from the Stalin's perversion of the original principles I disagree with Jordan's simplistic view
My grandparents escaped communist Cuba for the United States in 1969 with their two children and a single suitcase. Needless to say, I’m fortunate they took that risk and worked hard to afford my dad, and later my entire family, the freedoms and privileges we have in this country. My grandfather doesn’t consider himself Cuban anymore. Instead, he’d tell you he’s a proud American. We’re thankful to live in the United States, and we pray for those oppressed by communism.
It is interesting you say that about immigration from Cuba, my Grandparents immigrated from Mexico in the 1910s. Last year wasn't there an opportunity for Cubans to come to the US, requesting asylum from the Socialist regime? But the Biden administration ignored these requests, instead allowing tens of thousands illegal aliens to flood through our Southern border. Such a sad situation for well meaning Cubans to come here but to no avail.
Thanks Robert for sharing. I love to read about people's journeys in search of freedom and finding true pride in becoming Americans. After all that's what our beautiful nation is all about and was set up to be/ do. The New Colossus Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
@@JSp4wN the issue with those that see america as the beacon of those coming in to find new life rather than a settler colony that has pillaged the lives of millions to create one of the most oppressive societies in the world is one of the most efficient propaganda talking points wildly shared by those in the u.s. today. this country was never the beacon of New life, it only became the facade of one for its industries. Cubas revolution was one of the most important in changing its society from a plantation colony in the hands of the u.s. ruling class to that of one continuing to fight for socialism, harmed by the embargo that every country besides the u.s. and israel wants to get rid of. look into what you were raised into, 100s of millions killed in the hands of the west, numbers poorly counted with the deaths in "communist countries" by the black book of communism. you're not absolved from indoctrination, the u.s. has done that the best to keep you docile from any criticism of the idea of class antagonism.
As a Chinese mainlander and born in late 90s, i have to admint that there are rarely materials about the four “social movements” available in public back to 20th since PRC established and it is wise for most of us as normal people to not talk about it out laud openly. i don't know what the real situation is back that special period and i have to say that's a little scared of me actually after heard what professor said.
@@sunruicode We DO fear the economic crisis of capitalism. But we fear it less than the statesman promising us everlasting peace in exchange for our freedom.
I wish some of my friends would listen to you - I grew up in former Czechoslovakia, emigrated to Canada and could not believe, how many people in Canada think that socialism/ communism is something good. And they will not listen even to someone who lived through it.
Einstein was a socialist, he even wrote an essay about it called “Why Socialism?”. So rather than misusing his quotes to prove your point, maybe you should do a little research
@@nogibiggi154 I'm aware of Einsteins ideology however I feel this quote fits well when talking about socialist views as socialism has been tried over and over and over again but always ends horribly. The definition of insanity but it'll be different THIS time
I guess that’s pretty accurate on handmaids tale when there’s Canadian Giliad sympathizers/ activists. It’s always the ignorant, well intentioned ppl that turn a society into hell.
I will continue to repost this. One of you TH-cam influencers needs to talk about this. For pride month I had over a hundred companies send me emails about honoring pride month. Same thing for black history month. Same thing for national woman’s day and Mother’s Day. But no emails for Father’s Day. But this is worse than that. I got 0 emails from companies recognizing the day of our independence. I got a couple 4th of July sales emails. But not a single email honoring the 4th of July. The birth of our great nation. The day we recognize, remember and celebrate our freedom. Is that not questionable? Not a single company? Not one! But pride month was all over the place. You don’t see something wrong with that?
Our boys are worth fighting for. Men should be men. The feminization of them is astounding and insidious. Luckily its mostly contained in high populated metro areas. Around here in most of the fly over states, boots beer ball caps, GOD, The American FLAG, BALLS and trucks reign supreme. the girls pick them by far over any other kind of male and they are of all races.. Their families are close, the man is the head of the house, the women are partnering with that, and discipline and love works together to make the family strong and ready for anything. I work part time, I am retired, and you should see those boys I work with, all the same good young men, all American rowdy little shits who think they own the world and they do. They are by far the average American males. Remember that. The rest are followers and will never be leaders. These boys are everywhere really. And they dont give a shit about being WOKE. They already are in the BEST way. my son always gives me a fathers day card and so does his sisters. I dont give a shit about any woke corporations they can kick rocks.
That things were supposed to be days. In one case they are wothshipping mental illness, in the second case they are being black supremacists to giving blacks special moral values, in the third case they are being feminist/hembrist. In the forucase the same in the lasr case they are being....
To really appreciate how communism does not really love or care about people, study the life of Karl Marx. Not his Manifesto or essays, his life as a person. You will discover a self-centered, childishly immature, and arrogant person who never talked or associated with the working class that he virtue-signaled for. A man who never worked a day in his life, with soft hands that maybe had a callous finger from writing. A man who ditched his rent and debts. A man who spent whatever money that came in his hands on his own personal pleasures of cigars and drink, while his wife and children lived in filth and hunger. When Marx did get more money from his bourgeoisie friend, Engels, who had inherited his father's textile business and lived like an aristocrat, Marx moved into a very nice middle-class house in England, complete with servants, went on a 3-week vacation with his family, then threw a ball for his daughters with 25 guests. He went straight into debt again, and again Engels had to bail him out. Tell me, how does a man who champions the working class live it up like the very bourgeoisie he denounces? Marx also pursued every inheritance from family and friends he could, even though he wrote in his Manifesto that inheritances should be done away! He later had an illegitimate child with his housekeeper provided by Engels (Really, a housekeeper? How hypocritically bourgeoisie and exploitative of the proles!) and then ignored the child so he would not hurt his reputation. The child had to enter Marx's house through the back door in the kitchen to see his mother. The BLM founders brag of being Marxist trained yet have no problem with Marx's behavior that resembles what their grandparents endured in the Jim Crow South! There's more, but Marx's arrogance and materialistic grasping for his own interest is the example of every Marxist today. Look at Stalin, Mao, Castro, Kim Jong, Chavez, and the BLM founders who live like the rich and famous while their people suffer from poverty and starvation. Marxism is grifter's game to enrich the promoter who doesn't care for the rubes he or she claims to advocate for. Marx's personal life demonstrates that.
Lol i don't think you have read about his life. He was well beloved by his family and friends. Maybe read what his daughters, wife and friends said about him? He also worked really hard. He probably didn't do much hard labor , but he read and studied incessently. The reason why he is so admired and influential is because he worked really hard on his ideas. Most people, like Peterson, don't even bother with his writings (beyond the Manifesto) and instead just repeat the same Cold War propaganda about anything communism
Yep. Even his followers couldn't stand him much of the time. He was a monster while he lived . The world would have been far better without his existence. One of the sorriest individuals to ever live.
As a Chinese, I am amazed Mao is still revered by many even young people here. You can tell how the education system works. He has arguably committed the most severe crimes against against Chinese people in Chinese history, worse even than the Japanese during WWII based on death toll. I cannot imagine the despair I would have felt living under his rule. There's absolutely no escape from the tyranny, just like today's North Korea. The only escape was to swim to Hong Kong, but other than the villagers living near the border, one can't even leave one's residential area without government approval, to buy a train ticket, or stay in a hotel. And there are people who are still nostalgic about those days in China.
@Potatohead it's just perspective potatohead. Mans inhumanity to man is clearly documented as you so easily stated. I see you understand. Until you are in front of the world expressing your views. Discrediting another's opinion is nothing more than banter until your center stage. Good luck!
"Lenin was as terrible as Hitler because Stalin was Lenin's henchmen" ? Where did he get that information from ? Lenin's "henchmen" was Trotsky, Stalin weaseled his way into the Bolshevik party and power, there was a statement from Lenin that he feared Stalin gaining too much power ? J.P. trying to rewrite history for his bias ?
As a cuban who grew up under communism and lived 25 years there, I approve of this tremendous message. The myth of the cave in Plato is a clear example of the way we live under a military communist system. Actually, is even worst.
@@googlesucks662 Capitalism has been great for society, tell me which system works better, we had far more starving people in the past, before capitalism. Have you even been to Haiti or Columbia I have and almost every single country in SA and Central American islands, over 100 different countries in this great planet we call earth, and none of those people are trying to immigrate anywhere but capitalistic countries PERIOD. Do you even have a pass port?, as a huge chunk of Americans do not.
@@ryans1623 LOL. I have travelled extensively, including to China. It seems to work far better for society than capitalism, which you would have seen working so well in your travels in Central America and Haiti and had those travels of yours (you would think you could spell Colombia correctly) included travel to China. Lots of people immigrate to China and Vietnam as difficult as they make it for people to do so. Of course, they didn't steal a continent from others and genocide those others as they did so so neither China nor Vietnam have historically had a need for immigration. China's largest city, FWIW, seems to be about 20 years more technologically advanced than western cities, there are no slums to be seen, no homeless on the streets (though there are many trying to hawk products to you) and there are high speed trains. Lots of high speed trains.
His now no holds bar, unapologetic, direct approach is a marvel to witness. We'd all be so lucky to speak with the conviction & fortitude of Dr. Peterson. The greatest lesson of the 20th century is that Mao, Hitler & Stalin live in all of us and under the wrong circumstances that darkness will be revealed for all to suffer under.
As a Ukrainian, whose ancestors have been left with nothing as they were on the list for Syberia, just because they were wealthy hardworking peasants, I approve of this message. My grandma's sister together with her husband was exiled to Syberia (just the second day after their wedding), and her son (my godfather) was born there. They returned when he was 5 years old - in the middle of the 50th. Collectivization just killed a Ukrainian village, man-made FAMINE, great terror, "executed renaissance"( in the 30th erasure of Ukrainian intelligence by communists). That is communism! All this past led to the invasion in 2014 and the full-scale invasion 2022.
The Pavlik Morazov story was likely a myth, but is no less sinister for it. He was the one who informed on his kulak father for hiding grain. He was made a hero throughout the CCCP because his story represented the message The Party wanted to spread: Loyalty to the State and its authority figure was more important than loyalty to your own parents. Whenever the children are taught this, it ALWAYS ends in blood. ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
We should get a bunch of propaganda that will help lead us to climate catastrophe? Good luck when your failed slavery economic system leads humanity to extinction.
It is great propaganda. The exact thing that professors are NOT supposed to do. We are supposed to encourage reading and critical thought. China is the number one economy in the world. Is it due to "communism" or state-control, or mafia tactics? If Communism created economic disaster, what do you call it when Communists create wealth? Slavery creates a lot of wealth for the few, same as monarchy, same as Western banksterism. Peterson calls the slave system of Canada "freedom". Hmm.
@@combativeThinker what Countries are you all in? most all college in the USA and their professor are capitalist and teach anti communism. Watch this debunking "Truth About Communism" Video Caleb Maupin
As someone from East Africa (Eth), almost everything was owned by the state (internet, electricity, water, media...). We had one of the slowest and the most costly internet in the world (browsing on my phone at 50kbps 2011). Somalia, whom they portrayed as war-torn, had a little faster internet. Power was a joke with frequent outages, where one time it was out for a week (and we just shrug). Nowdays they semi-privatized the internet service and it has gotten much faster. More companies have been allowed to compete. The communist era of the 70s and 80s was described to me as scary. A lot of friends near my mom were picked away for having the opposition's pamphlet on hand (some reunited others unknown). Over two million have died, and seeing carcasses on the streets was the norm (sometimes deliberately left there so that people were intimidated). The man still alive somewhere in his 80s. So a large gov is a ticket to a horror show. When it offers a bad service, who can punish it and by what reassurance? We just shrugged it off. Any state only cares about expanding its power; don't contribute to it or get too comfortable with being an adult baby lullabied by a nanny state.
y in France telecoms were owned by the state, energy was owned by the state(until recently) and 100% of the rails as well. Never had a black out, we got something close to internet(was used for dating, erotic stuffs a lot xd) called minitel way before internet, and we have probably the best satisfaction for trains world wide. And we are not even socialists. How do you explain that? Peterson mixes everything when it comes to socio political paradigms. He mixes sovietism, maoism, communism, socialism in the same sentence even sometimes and he absolutely never talks about the incentives. There are never nuances, it is imho borderline revisionist. Maybe google the words "jacobinism" and "profilaxia". Sometimes things are a certain way because it's scientifically better, there doesn't have to be ideology in every-fucking-thing.
@@nathanielnizard2163 „ATrain“ is like a „recruiter“, propagating alarmism (check his Twitter account) n like a missionary trying to indoctrinate other minds…looks like this has become a funnel too (a lot of ppl in academia r paid by TH-cam now). Godspeed Murica
@@nathanielnizard2163 I think you'll agree that since the Revolution, France has adopted much of the Socialist principles (which, in my opinion, has made it a much weaker economically than it should be) with the exception being the right to allow it's citizens to have a free and fair vote on who leads her. These Socialist values have seriously hindered France's citizens' ability to prosper. It's very well known that French policies make it extremely difficult for businesses to grow and develop. The state loves to take money, but hates those who want to make money.
@@nathanielnizard2163 France also has laws by the government that ban Paternity tests. With the reasoning being, preservation of peace for families. I find it pretty Abhorrent in this day and age that men in France are just supposed to accept by faith and faith alone, when there is a scientific solution available. I'll be fair and say that a lot of modern society is still behind on rights regarding paternity, but not all of them are as barbaric as that. It also speaks to the terrible infidelity that must be happening in that country if they feel that hell would break loose if they allowed tests. I understand it's slightly off topic, but you're boasting about France as if they have the right attitude. They certainly don't in that area.
Thank you Peterson. You saved me from the socialist/marxist modern liberal mess. I was a middle schooler obsessed with far left ideas which carried with me to high school. My peers and teachers thought it was an appropriate ideology. If I hadn’t seen your lectures I would have been stuck in a permanent echo chamber.
I think you should keep reading then because left liberalism, even far left woke one, currently has nothing to do with communism. And modern socialism also has nothing to do with communism. It’s just what Republican Party wants people to believe. Currently socialism is basically about the state taking more care about their underprivileged citizens through fair taxes and nobody is talking about taking from the rich and giving to the poor.
Hi, Bold! I had the same experience -- except it was my grandmother in 1964 -- very kindly but very clearly she explained the kinds of things Dr. Peterson is presenting -- I was 8 but I totally understood. I was staying with her for a couple weeks, and I was curious about some of her books, and why she didn't favor Johnson for president. It changed my life, indeed inspired me over the years to write articles and books, etc., -- all because my grandmother gave me the unvarnished truth about Leftism as it played out as Communism in systematic slavery and death. So glad you gave Dr. Peterson a listen!
@Prasanth Thomas yes I’m sure because I’ve lived in communism back in the 80s in Eastern Europe. Marx didn’t invent communism per se, Lenin did. And if you listened to Peterson, you would notice that in communism there was no space for individualism and everybody was supposed to be equal, living in perfect utopian society without divisions. Wokeness however promotes extreme individualism and recognition that everybody needs to be recognized for what they want to be and you cannot criticize their choices. Akay communism was focusing on economy while wokeness is purely about social identify and justice. I just watched Chapman’s video and he made some good points but I think he’s just throwing out his personal, unconfirmed hypotheses. Like the link between Marx and wokeness is far fetched to say the least. We would all be better off if we listened to established journalists with great reputation rather than social media personalities who are not scrutinized by any adult in the room. Lastly, not sure if you’re in the US but it’s really annoying to see all good socially responsible programs being thrown out the window just because republicans shout communism when they see a social support program like eg. universal healthcare. This doesn’t mean socialism and socialism is not communism at all! You’re just brainwashed and then you suffer the worst healthcare system in the developed world and people go bankrupt if they go to the doctor with a simple issue. Over and out
@Prasanth Thomas never had such a class and have no idea what you’re talking about. Your comment about religion and heresy is rather incoherent too. Are you repeating things you don’t understand? Anyway, your brand of communism is irrelevant here and your comment about Trotsky is false. It was Stalin who had him killed just like thousands of others, who he considered a threat to his power. Has nothing to do with communist ideology. Not to mention that Stalin did not care about it either, once he took power by Lenin. And lastly bringing up BLM as an example here is nonsense. BLM are not woke, they oppose racism and police brutality so perhaps indeed some Marxist ideas about fighting oppression could be useful. But that doesn’t make them communists or socialists, despite what Fox News is telling you. You really need to diversify your information diet and start thinking critically, otherwise you’ll end up in a sect
While visiting Romania I took a guided tour around the capital Bucharesti. He pointed out landmarks and so on. At one point was talking about the Communist era and said something interesting. When ask about Communism he replied there was a little good but mostly very bad. Someone in the group said "how was it good?". He replied..if you a starving peasant it's good they give you a job and a apartment but if you even slightly successful it not good because they take your house , land and businesses and give you a job and a apartment.
That's what's happening in the UK at the moment. Punish those poor who want to better themselves and have a better life, even the British homeless are forgotten about, and the illegal immigrants get things first, they get free home, free transport, money. It's immoral.
I'm reading the gulag archipelago right now at Jordan's recommendation. What I've read so far is jaw dropping. I'm thankful for him making me aware of it. The amount of unforgettable lessons that can be learned from looking back at these regimes cannot be understated
How many break ins u experience a day ? do u have the technology rights or $ to keep them out of yer home vandalizing and poisoning yer food ? are u a slave? by chance? Lmao!
@@Boris_Belomor cool! thx! ...I will try, that's something I know I can really get into , I've tookin up interest in this a lot over the past 5yrs or so ? haha. I'm sure this will be way ! better than Alexander's Gulag archipelago book series . Which I thought was anticlimactic / dull , personally even though nobody! agrees lol! ....., but on the contrary he was a legit hero for the record I think..., just not a good writer haha. Yeah sounds ! interesting, although I'll have to find a copy of the book, cuz it's hard for me to enjoy MOST audio books now when trying to enjoy classic literature nowadays something else this lifestyle has tookin from me😔..... Lol , (dark humor laugh out loud btw).
Being in High School in the late 70s, I remember one of my teachers saying a perfect Communism and a perfect Democracy are ultimately the same thing. In my lifetime (especially in the most recent years), I have come to realize “ there in no such thing as a perfect man made government”.
Communism was my teachers words, not mine, so let’s substitute communism with socialism, I would imagine a perfect one of either one would mean all needs are met, all people contribute to the positive functioning of the government, all leaders only desire to work for the good of the people, not just their own ambitions. Basically “doing unto others as we would have done to ourselves”.
If you had perfect people with a perfect culture you wouldn't need any people at all. Government is supposed to exist to secure and preserve liberty by ensuring that those who exploit or harm others are punished, not to make life fair.
А ты уточняла дорогая за что мог твой дедуля в гулаг загреметь???...наци...ам может помогал? Может в концлагере копеечку зарабатывал? Или может в празднуемыми вами на...их легионерах состоял??? Вариантов масса...намного вероятнее что он был с ними чем был невинным ягненком принесенным в жертву тоталитарному режиму и прочая бредятина...
@@bigdiccmarty9335 after two years in gulags he was part of a riot and escaped. Together with his friend they walked and secretly hitchhiked trains for thousands of kilometres to their homeland. his friend got very weak and couldn’t continue, he asked my grandpa to shoot him so the communists wouldn’t get him alive. my grandpa couldn’t do it and left him in a hideout. after he got back he hid in his family’s potato basement for months, eventually got to Riga where an acquitance ratted him out to KGB and he was tortured and sent back to gulags where he spent 10 years. he was then pardoned and set free and returned home a broken man.
A Bengali from Indian state of West Bengal, I approve whatever said in this video is absolutely correct about communism. Bengal state suffered at hand of communism for 30 long years in a democratic country of India. Bengal state was destroyed by Bengali communist and today Southern state of Karnataka, capitalist state of Maharashtra and Right wing state of Gujrat are most prosperous state in India
@@elnino114 : All of those "hooligans" who were in CPIM are now in TMC (and they will change their shirts once more if BJP or Congress comes to power). The main issue is that communists literally deindustrialized the most industrialized state in India using left wing union hooliganism. When a state is deliberately destroyed what else do you expect the end result to be except an increase in the capability of such a state to produce more hooligans ?
As a Croatian person who grew up in communism I approve of this message and of the Polish guy's message and the Romanian guy's message and the Lithuanian guy's message and the Vietnamese guy's message.
There is one country that actually profited from communism. Croatia. If it were not for communism, the territory of modern day Croatia would be twice as small, the territory of Serbia would be twice as large, and the Croatian genocide against the Serbs in the Second World War would be despised and condemned in the world just like the Holocaust! Croatian communist dictator Josip Broz Tito single-handedly prevented his homeland Croatia from sharing the fate of Germany after the war! For participating in the war on the side of Germany, for the Jasenovac concentration camp and welcoming Hitler with flowers in Zagreb, Croatia was rewarded with territorial expansion thanks to communism! I agree with every word Jordan Peterson said, but the devastating effects of communism in Yugoslavia were felt on Serbian skin.
@@nikolaivanovic3163 I'm afraid that's just Serbian propaganda you've been fed your entire life. Serbs and Yugoslavs massacred Croatian people by hundreds of thousand during and after WW2. That was true genocyde if ever there was one. Just compare number of Serbs living in socalled Yugoslavia before and after WW2. You'll see that Serbian population grew larger in those times. Then compare number of Croatians before and after WW2. Simple math will tell you who suffered genocyde. Everything else is just lies you've been fed. And really, you guys have no business talking about Holocaust, with Serbia being the first and only country in the fourties to boast its being "Jew-free" to Hitler. Really.
@@LukaMagda1 That's exactly what I'm talking about. Without Communism you would never have written such nonsense while at the same time Jewish historians like Gideon Greif in the middle of Israel are publishing books like Jasenovac Aushwitz of the Balkans. On March 27, 1941, the Serbs rose up against Hitler when Great Britain had no allies from London to Cairo! After that, the Germans BOMBED and OCCUPIED Serbia. On the other hand, on April 10, 1941, the Croats WELCOMED Hitler with flowers in Zagreb proclaiming the Independent State of Croatia, Hitler's greatest ally! No time should be spent on explaining the anti-Serb pro-Croat character of the Yugoslav communists. Anyone who knows how to read the decisions of the Communist Party of Yugoslavia from the 4th Congress in Dresden in 1928 will come to the same conclusion. And you should really be comparing lists instead of rote talking. Before the war, Serbs made up 60% of the population of Yugoslavia... After the Croatian genocide and communist occupation, there were 36% of us... 36%!?
My parents escaped Hungary in '56 to Austria. Both were on the BLACK list & if found would have been shot or gulag bound to starve/die there. My siblings and I were born American Citizens and love this country dearly... May the end of the Monster called communism be soon
Greetings from Hungary, friend. I know a lot of people fled then, some of my relatives went to Australia. The revolution was of course suppressed and it was declared a "counter-revolution" later on. My grandpa was there in Budapest as a young man, took photos from the rooftop (sadly the photos got damaged and became unusable). He saw young people die that day. After the Soviet Union had collapsed, the day of Revolution became a national holiday and it's celebrated all over the country every year, as one of our biggest holidays.
Communism will not die until moral systems that are based on Altruism (which is self-destruction for the sake of self-destruction, that's what it literally is) are examined and replaced by something objectively pro-human life and individualistic.
I think we do and appreciate all his work but, He never attacks the System, just the people that got it wrong. Would love to see him stealman this topic.
Peterson is appreciated for the magnitude of his ego and his posturing. Scholars differ on the immensity of the magnitude of each. A good reference is an article called " the intellectual we deserve". I am seriously worried about your finances as well as your particular journey if you think Pete is anything excellent let alone a legend.
I am from Cuba and it really gets me mad when some uneducated person says to me that they want “Free Stuff from the government” they have no idea how destructive “Free” is. Nothing is free. I believe if you do not work you should not eat. Sounds hard it is still better than the communist alternative.
How about the working class who had jobs and services cut because wall Street had to be bailed out, socialism for the rich it seemed like there, should those individuals who lost their jobs(specifically in industrial towns and cities of the US) do without food because they got put out of work?
@@C12341 Yeah exactly, even during the financial crash over 14 years ago, towns in the UK such as Preston had their councils budget cut by like 30% compared to London which barely saw any cuts...How much production is there in Preston compared to London? Not much at all, so the cuts there is just not necessary, its telling the bottom 80% "we all need to tighten our belts" when that's alright if we are wearing the same trousers, but we all know that just isn't the case. We were also told that those austerity measures were needed to cut debt, but that just isn't the case as every European country that applied those same austerity policies actually had more debt years after the financial crisis than what they did when they first went into it? Why? Because of a lack of growth, Italy is a prime example, Italy returned a surplus for like 20 years, they balanced their books quite well actually, but their growth model was not great, they barely grew at all, because their economic model isn't an exporting economy such as Germany, the UK or even some countries in the east of Europe. Check out professor Mark Blyth from Brown University, Rhode Island. He goes into detail with this.
@@dynamitecity9667 Wall street had to be bailed out because of a cancerous, destructive government mandate. The US government forced banks to lend money to people who couldn't afford to pay it back. That mandate caused a bubble. When that artificial bubble popped, it destroyed wealth.
@@dafunkmonster It destroyed wealth? During those years of recession, the richest weren't the most affected, it was those at the bottom who benefit from public programs the most, because those programs were being cut. It happened here in the UK as well. Banks were becoming greedy. Lending to someone who can't afford it is predatory behaviour.
Dr. Peterson, thank you for this excerpt of your lecture on communism. I started moving to the right politically in the 70s (my 20s) when I became frustrated with my friends who thought that everyone had to have the same, "correct," position on all political and moral issues. But I carried a question with me to this day, "Why would people blandly excuse the suffering, death, and destruction of human relationships that occur in communist countries while enthusiastically endorsing or even acting to help bring about communism in a country where it can be done 'right'?" Having since then completed a liberal arts B.A. with an emphasis in Russian and Soviet history, and developed friendships with a number of people who grew up and lived in communist countries, I continue to ask myself the same question but with a greater intensity. I always have suspected that people who endorse communism think that somehow they will be in a protected position (income, status) in a communist system; they do not understand there is no real protection for anyone in that system. Your comment about people thinking that if they were in charge of the system, the system would work is, I think, very insightful and helps me answer my long-standing question. Thank you for your thoughtful work! May God bless you and your family.
I agree with Dr Peterson that it doesn't matter where or when, it doesn't work. Evil men condone the evil that other men do. Rom 1:25 For they exchanged the truth of God for falsehood, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. Rom 1:26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged natural relations for that which is contrary to nature, Rom 1:27 and likewise the men, too, abandoned natural relations with women and burned in their desire toward one another, males with males committing shameful acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. Rom 1:28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a depraved mind, to do those things that are not proper, Rom 1:29 people having been filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, and evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, and malice; they are gossips, Rom 1:30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, Rom 1:31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unfeeling, and unmerciful; Rom 1:32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also approve of those who practice them.
You think that you are protected in liberal world? think again. Communism gives protection from the point of view of stability, where the state (should) provide education and work for everyone. thing is, it takes too much recources and the world is not ready.
It is pretty simple. People delude themselves into believing that they are "special" when, in fact, they are not. Everyone wants to be the ringleader of the circus and nobody wants to be the guy cleaning up the elephant poop. There is one ringleader and there is a 99.9% chance that you will be the guy cleaning up poop. All these Communist professors that praise the virtues of Communism and brainwash impressionable kids into good little Communists fail to see that in nearly every Communist revolution the first people rounded up and shot in the street are the "intellectuals". If you ask them they all will say that they will be the one guy who worms their way into the inner circle while all the rest of their colleagues are put in a ditch. They won't. They are useful idiots.
I believe that it is because they are blinded by sin. They've rejected God, and as such will cling to lies and reject the truth. Until they actually suffer themselves, their eyes won't open, and even then may not.
Hello sir, im actually a mathemathian but pretty interested on how communism governs behaves. Actually read that u complete some carrer with metion on that part of our history of human kind. Would u help me with some references an books of that? Anyone would be accepted
You are one of the most important voices of anti-communism. There were South Koreans who lived in Cuba back then. Many left after they saw the same thing that happened in the North happening in the island.
Dr. Peterson's lecture is a great intro to this subject. I also have to recommend James Lindsay's in-depth tracing of the historical threads from "woke-ism" (communism retooled for the 21st century) back to "classical marxism" and ultimately, to ancient Gnostic religion. It goes to show why it's a mistake to try very hard to reason with communist agitators. Their words are devices to advance their agenda by way of language; they aren't looking to engage you per se. If you press hard you will get cynicism, relativism, redefinitions of words, misdirections to boogeymen, "real communism has never been tried," et cetera. If they come to terms with the sum total of their tactics they cease to be communists. We can hope and pray they do but it's not very common. Likewise, it only takes a small leap of faith to conclude communism is evil, systematized as much as it can be; and well-placed faith opens the door to understanding.
My neighbours are Latvian. My best friends and colleagues at work are Romanian and Hungarian….Jordan Peterson is the only speaker I have found that can do justice to the pain they have described to me during the many many hours of conversation about life in Eastern Europe. There is a callous cold strength instilled in them that was put there by their parents knowingly at the expense of their relationship. Jordan is the only person that can convey the social pain required to create conditions where that is normal. Bravo. It only makes me sad I never found myself being taught by someone with so much passion. Nihilism cost me my 20’s and it need not have.
You have no idea what you are writing about. You have absolutely no idea what Socialism and Communism are. Go tell it to the Chinese, who are the world's first real economy today, and the Chinese today are the happiest people in the world. Your friends pis.ed in your ears in order to be closer to the americans, who might give them a "beautiful life." hahaha
I can't see freedom in those countries, first off all, none of them can act beyond the will of the United States, and then, the media and the social platforms are controlled and used by the ruling minority, spreading the craziest ideologies through nonsensical agendas, and using the same tools to tyranise anybody else, and to hide the economical realities.
Actually, socialism seeks to create communism. To be accurate, socialism was tried, but communism was never achieved. And yes, certain socialists haven't had their turn yet. China and Vietnam seems to be heading in the right direction. Let's see what comes out of it in the decades to come. Let's just hope NATO doesn't get their way with their Xinjiang and Taiwan fake narratives to hurt China's attempt at communism.
I think it was tried, and it failed, but it was already implemented so it cannot be undone so what happens is that it morphed into Stalinism, Marxism-Leninism, Maoism and every socialist ideology that killed hundreds of millions of people
As a Russian person and living in States now, who grew up in communist regime, I approve this message. And wanna warn Americans people, with democrats we are not walking to the communism, we are running to that regime.
I wish the democrats were communists. What exactly have they done to enforce communism? In what way now is the USA like the Soviet Union was? The Soviet Union was a great friendship of people's and co-operation against global capitalists vying to exploit every last resource. The USA is the opposite. I get offended that you would call the democrats communists, they are more like right wing fascists.
Where do people get this notion that democrats want to lead us to a communist dystopian. It’s actually the opposite. The democrats serve the Zionist globalist who just wants to use the people as cattle for capitalist exploitation. They are milking you people of your livelihood so you can forever be a consumer.
I’m from mainland China. From my experience after so many years of growing up there, I’d say the war started by Hitler could destroy everything you can see, the lives, the historical buildings, the cities, while a communist regime could destroy something you could not see. It’s never something about the buildings, which they can looks great, nor the material good, but the culture, the belief, the spirit, what is true and the hope of people in a conniving way. Read George Owell, he explains it really well.
People know that communism is wrong but they stay silent, because they fear the consequences and after two or three generations their offsprings don't remember their true culture anymore.. they think that their grandparents are slowly losing their wits, when they finally tell the truth at old age - when they don't think that they have anything to lose anymore. It's very sad.
In my opinion, it was academic navel gazing. "Intellectuals" fell in love with their words and made excuses for Communism, while at the same time, taking in hundreds of thousands of refugees from Communist countries and disregarding their experiences as "uneducated and inaccurate".
Its definitely blind spots. Westerners have no real concept of communism. Most to this day do not understand that woke movement is Marxism with only difference with how oppressors and oppressed are defined ( class oppression is replaced by identity oppression ) They have no idea what their core beliefs are and what is natural conclusion of said beliefs.
At some point we have to admit that the blind spots are manufactured. Its really hard to indoctrinate Marxism into children and Universities if you are teaching about the atrocities that it created.
As an american, of the people I have met or heard that grew up in a communist system, i have never ONCE heard them voice support for it. I have only ever heard it's horrors. I trust the people that lived it rather than whatever I could possibly read on the subject. Especially when it's people I actually know. I go to a certain group of meetings regularly. I know of a Russian kid that grew up here his whole life. One day the subject came up and without going in to to much detail, he told me all the horrors his parents and grandparents had told him that they went through,and essentially why they left. He seemed very much grateful to grow up an american. That tells me all I need to hear. No one is paying that boy to tell me those things lol. Nope,that's genuinely life lived experience from his parents passed to him. And when I hear stories like that, time,and time, and time again from all different people that grew up in different communist states and hear how similar they all sound, I know I'm not being lied to. They wouldn't have left if it were river's of milk and honey.
About: "pouring money into Cuba" from the USSR, the money went mostly in weapons and oil. The biggest chunk of it never remained in Cuba, instead it was used to promote socialist revolutions in Latin America and Africa (Salvador, Peru, Congo, Angola, Nicaragua, Ethiopia and so on). The USSR would provide the means and Cuba the canyon meat.
Everything said here is totally true. I was born in eastern Europe, Romania under the communist regime. Most western people can't imagine the horrors, the killings , the disappearances .It was a constant feeling of fear, hunger and despair. There was a continuous shortage of everything including basic food and electricity or hot water. The power blackouts were something so normal and sometimes they could last many hours ,several times a day. The queues were huge and usually people used to wait days and nights in a row, during harsh winters at minus 20Celsius , freezing in the snow , hoping to get some milk ,an orange or some piece of meat.
What of the story before his capture and execution that Ceausescu and his forces had killed 30-40k people? Was that not VOA propaganda? A fabrication? How often did these killings and disappearances occur? Did you know these also took place in Chile and Argentina and other places that were not and have never been communist? Have you ever lived in a third world country where people are constantly hungry and don't have access to water, food or electricity? Or do you only look to first world nations when evaluating your hardship?
@@googlesucks662true that, the rumours during those chaotic days were of many thousands of people killed during that 'revolution'. Actually, 'only' 1200 people were killed. On the other hand, those ruling 'third world countries' don't plummet you with propaganda that you are or you are on the path of living in the best society ever possible. You are talking exactly, that is almost verbatim to the propaganda that I and many others have been exposed to for years. Wake up. Communism (fascism also, as they are closely related) is an utopia conceived by idealistic and potentially violent people that manages to convince naive people of its potential value. Reality and history proved it's not working. +1 to the OG. Been there, lived that.
@@mirceaar7988 The 1200 figure still seems inflated and most of the killings were committed by those who overthrew the government. Communism and fascism are not similar, not at all. Fascism is a lot closer to the hierarchical system that lies about its nature and claims to be representative and democratic and has a perpetual elite perpetually orchestrating wars in foreign lands. I am glad you think "your" Soros and NED financed color revolution is working out for you and the majority of your countrymen but remember, capitalist states have great depressions and start and engage in world wars. No "communist" nation has started a world war.
@@mirceaar7988 Wakeup. Communism has worked for centuries in various religious sects and it is working exceedingly well in China and Vietnam. What isn't working are the hierarchically structured oligarchies that claim to be "liberal democracies". Tent cities and homeless every where, militarized police, most people in debt bondage and big surveillance tech passing itself off as social being owned by the same companies and people that own the military industrial complex/war machine.
Reality is not really tied to materialistic expectations, or selfish expectations, those concepts are western specific. Community thinking is different, you own as a community, you risk as a community and get rewarded as a community, you celebrate or fail all together, and many traditions are fine with that. If it doesn't work for the west, it does certainly work for the east, just because they have different traditions backed by a much different history.
As a Croat born in Yugoslavia, I see that "democracy" brought the decline of agriculture, the disappearance of companies, corruption, drugs, the dominance of manipulators, ...
I was born in Armenia in 1997, a few years after the fall of the Soviet Union. My parents and most of my family moved to Canada by the end of the 90's but had lived their whole lives in the Soviet Union. The main reason for my family's departure was a lack of work, food and just the minimal needs to survive. What intrigues me the most, and I'm not here to compare the communist party in China to the Soviet one, is that any person that I asked, who lived more than 20 years in the CCCP, all tell me that their lives were better during the Soviet Union, most probably not under Stalin for they were not alive yet but under different Premiers of the Soviet Unions. My point is, you should listen to people that lived in the Soviet Union and get their side ofnthe story for they lived during that time and they know how life was. Nevertheless, keep on doing these amazing lecture Dr. Peterson 🤟
“When fascism comes to America, it will not be in brown and black shirts. It will not be with jack-boots. It will be Nike sneakers and smiley shirts.” ~George Carlin
@@ФаэтонНагваль Hitler created the largest union in Europe and sold income equality so he could steal all the money from the rich he made sure all the poor had jobs and health care so he could have a bigger army get his men killed. Really people don't understand if the government is doing a lot for you they will end up getting you killed
As a Venezuelan person it is my turn to approve this message. We are the nation with the bigest migrant outflow and we are not in war. But we are in comunism
@@googlesucks662 Ok then lets say there is a massive amount a citizens litteraly walking away from their homes and I suppose you know the reason. Now please tell me which nation in peace has biger migrant outflow?
@@eleffrang5759 You are not a nation in peace. The US and its European lackeys declared economic war on Venezuela years ago. England illegally holds your gold. Perhaps you mean which country that is not in hot war, civil war, or plagued with death squads, guerrilla war and assassinations (like Colombia)? If that is what you mean, please let me know and I will see if there are indeed any worse countries. Right now I would expect the Philippines, Malaysia, a few countries in Africa and closer to home for you, Honduras and Guatemala, would still beat you out.
@@googlesucks662 Your information seems compromised. We thank god England holds Venezuelan peoples gold and dosent deliver it to maduro the drug dealer dictator or his secret ally and supposed opposition leader juan guaido. As for Colombia you will need to dig deeper. Close to 8 million people have fled venezuela
@@eleffrang5759My information is bang on. Yours? 8 million seems highly inflated. Has Venezuela seen the civil war and death squads Colombia has? I would also like an answer to the question in my previous reply. I find it difficult to fathom how any citizen of a country could approve of a foreign country illegally (under international law) seizing it's gold reserves unless it's government was so perverse as to be engaging in genocide against one of its ethnic, or linguistic minorities. Also, Guido is a puppet of the US, a creation of the state department, and hardly in some grand conspiracy with the Maduro government.
I love blaming the Cold War on the Soviets. Totally wasn't the Allies who pushed in on the SU which led to the formation of East Germany and Warsaw Pact
@@niotikk Nobody talks about Cold War, Communism its an utopia that will never happen and thats the truth. You cant expect different results doing the same path that led to tens of millions of deaths, thats straight insanity.
This needs to be heard by all psych students/grads!! It is crazy how students are taught quotes from the collaborators of communism (e.g. Marx) yet aren't taught about their history, nor of the consequences of what their communist ideas lead to! Psych was one of my majors *cries* and one of my professors just made us memorise Nietche's "God is dead and we have killed him" quote without any context or elaboration as to what conclusion such a position led to (which was nihilism or totalitarianism as JP said)... if i remember correctly she used the quote to support how we are in a much freer post-modern society. Madness. Unis (maybe more so social sciences) are creating walking zombies rather than comprehensive thinkers. BUT, am so grateful to have this teaching available! May more students see it.
Don't worry. I scoff at those communist/heavy socialist kids who think their utopia can exist. They preach about "fairness" and eating the rich as they sip their $8 coffees fucking around on their $1,000+ laptops. It's cute.
One small correction, it leads to nihilism which then inspires totalitarianism. Nihilism is chaos without the structure and responsibility (of Christianity in this case) to provide security, predictability and order. This chaos is then compensated with an equally intense degree of order. But I wonder why does that lead to death? And why do people no longer support Christianity (besides the Literalist insistence that the stories are historically true).
@@tristanbaker8198 Small but important - fair enough and thanks for the correction. Pretty big questions there haha. I know the absolute basics but by no means knowledgeable. But, i would suppose that in the process of a nation swinging from nihilistic to high order the conditions are just right for someone who is persuasive, dominant, power hungry to be chosen. And people are welcoming of this because, perhaps, it is in our DNA to desire someone/thing above us (security, guidance, order). And perhaps when you have gone from one side of the pendulum you are welcoming of the complete opposite (e.g. alcoholics overcome addiction by going cold turkey...?). It leads to death because the rulers are power hungry and prideful . Once they have gained a certain level they will not give it up, even if that means your people starving because of the structure you have chosen to govern your country (and of course they won't admit the structure i.e. commusim, doesn't work.. it keeps the people in a weakened position which thus keeps them elevated/in power). Now your last question... lol... not sure i can answer via youtube comment haha
Judging an idea by its misapplication would lead one to dismiss Christianity just as you suggest we should dismiss communism. Actually, thinking about it, communism has a key tenet which it shares with Christianity: "To each according to their need, from each according to their capacity". Communism insofar as it can be reduced to this tenet would effectively amount to applied Christianity, reduced to Christ's core teaching.
I've rarely seen a western intellectual expressing so clear what we, the millions who lived or live still under communism , have endure. Do not take one word off, he is not exaggerating. It is how he says.
Wether he knows it or not, Peterson, made the same points that Fulton J. Sheen said in a televised speech at least 50 years prior. They agreed that Fyodor Dostoevsky’s book Demons a.k.a. The Possessed foretold what would occur in Russia in less than 40 years of his death.
Peterson has no clue on what communism is The Definition of a Soviet: A soviet is a system of councils that report to an apex council and implement a predetermined outcome, often by consensus, affecting a region or neighborhood. Members of a soviet council are chosen by virtue of their willingness to comply with that outcome and their one-mindedness with the group Soviets are the operating mechanism of a government-controlled economy, whether it be socialism or government-corporate ("public-private") partnerships Change agents are working with opportunists and other foolish people by coordinating government, business, NGO, and "non-profit" partners to implement a soviet system in your county, too. In 1980 Ronald Reagan became the American president. This presidency is commonly referred to as the Reagan Revolution. During these years, under the complete control of the Neo- conservatives, the economic, political and social environment was prepared to bring back into existence worker control of the means of production. These Neo-conservatives were successful in converting Socialist rhetoric into a Conservative-newspeak. The economic, political and social reforms of the Reagan Revolution made possible a most necessary evolutionary step for Capitalism, the creation of the basics for a fully functional self-regulating society. What was once termed as a Soviet work council is now known as Self-directed Work Team, Natural Work Group, Employee Involvement Team or Total Production Management. These are the basic building blocks of Socialism.
@@OM-df9lj user...now why would i want production = consumption and a self regulating classless society? you know why top Marxist (not the idiots that follow them )why they call capitalist "useful idiots"because capitalist are creating what they hate...by trying to perfect capitalism they are creating the system they want to avoid.
Appreciate Dr.Peterson , After this clip, I totally realized the dialogues in fight club makes so much sense “ we are the middle children of history no place or purpose, our only war is spiritual war, our only depression is our lives “ modern society constantly tries to define , give a name and look for validation name it religion, political theories, spirituality, meaning of life, travel, pursuit of truth we zig zag into diff world views because there’s nothing important to accomplish than to destroy the accomplishments made by prior humans
It is very true. I am from India. In 1962, during the disastrous end of Mao's great leap forward, the party had turned against him, and so had the people, so in order to unite the people, Mao started a war against India and occupied a huge chunk of land, also thanks to the kleptocratic regime of crypto communists India was under, and not only that, communists from India declared their support for China, stating that China's leader was their leader and that China's fate was their fate. A similar situation arose in 2020, when China was facing a famine, and it dared to have a skirmish with India, that ended in a fiasco for them though.
i didn't know that bit of Indias recent history as to why Moa started these attacks and to have Indian leaders support him . But then many Indian students were educated in Moscow wasn't it . Communists are still making huge inroads into India
Chao in Lee visited vidisha in 1961 to visit stupas at sanchi, given a slogan chini hindi Bhai Bhai. Soon after VK Krishn Menon order to produce coffee purculators in ordinance factories as china was perceived as friendly country by then Congress administration. Then came the attack and we found ourselves in situation that gun ratio was 1-5. Five soldier's one rifle. Thanks to America for air dropping winter clothing and ammunition. I recommend you to read Sutluj se Brahmaputra tak by Acharya chatursen.
Btw I was a card carrying member of CPI M and romanced communism for better part of my life. Even today a part of me tells that had it been Trotsky instead of Stalin the revolution would have been real. All collectivism leads to Totalitarian state. Btw so called capitalism and Free market system that is sold to us is oligarchy and leading in same direction. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
@@Vandal_Savage proof of what? The 50 or so Chinese soldiers killed in Galwan, that the ChinCom government does not say anything about, or the guy who faced interior travel restrictions because he photographed their graves?
As an Ethiopian, I remember my parents barely surviving the death squads of both the ruling marxist party under white terror and the lenninist/hoxaist assassins of the red terror. communism is a platform for the exercise of the worst human instincts under the banner of "Good". I once identified myself as a communist, but like bob dylan says, Im much younger than that now.
That depends on people in power, not the system. I grew up in Yugoslavia, and wouldnt change that country not for USA, but i wouldnt change it for Switzerland.
@@nyalarhotep yugoslavia was a case apart since all the other states literally killed people and that none capitalist state did if it wasn't a authoritarian state
@@Nightmare-go7kf Do you know how many communists were murdered, imprisoned, assassinated in USA during Edgar J Hoover? Dont think you are not authoritarian just because you eliminated opposition fast. There is only one political option allowed in USA, just as it was in any other communist or authoritarian state.
@@Nightmare-go7kfthen why is there still poverty? it has been proven multiple times that the world has enough resources to lift everyone out of poverty when socialism basically eradicated homelessness, capitalism is supporting homelessness so that the rich can profit
@@nyalarhotep I was in Cuba. Have you been there? I was in Cuba in order to smell and feel again what communism is after it dissapeared in my country. When I returned home I was feeling so much better. It was like, if one would be in prison for a while and become a free man, he would like to visit prison again to feel better like a free human...
How was it better under stalin with 9 million people perishing in the gulags and over 27 millions perishing in the Siberia concentration camps. Go learn before coming to write laughable foolishness that only betrays your ignorance and stupidity together with that of your grandfather, who apparently was one of the criminals who perpetrated a lot of crimes against innocent people just to survive. How pathetic
*Now, go ask the millions of "grandfathers" that were sent to the Stalin's Gulags in Siberia the same question. Oh wait -- over 90% died.* Your grandfather had a great sense of humor.... lmao 🤣🤣🤣
@@PhuckYourExistence You know better. You weren't born in the USSR, you didn't communicate with people of that time or relatives. You haven't studied the documents that are in the public domain. Trillions of ruined souls in the Gulag personally by Stalin. Hating Russians is certainly fun, but being dumb is no longer funny.
Karl Marx was a devil worshiper and hated God. He grew up Jewish so he knew the basics of the tenets of Judaism but he vehemently hated them. When a person understands that about Marx and his "ideas" then it all makes sense why Marxism in any flavor is violent, oppressive and flat dark evil. There's recent book titled something like "The devil and Marx" or very close. There's also some interviews on TH-cam with the author. The pieces all come together in a terrible reality what Marxism is at the core.
It’s absolutely ridiculous that there are still so many people sympathetic to the idea some variation of communism. Even if there weren’t numerous examples of where this ultimately goes, common sense observations about life and human nature should tell the simplest observer what will happen.
When you don’t have strong underlying morals and a clear purpose something perverted grabs hold of that void and distorts your perception of good and evil, suddenly you might find yourself fighting to *increase* government control over the people to the point of totalitarianism, all the the name of fair society free of the capitalist oppression. Quite literally fighting side by side with the devil in the name of a what you think is a greater good. Of course there’s only blood at the end of that road, but these days people don’t have the attention span necessary to find these truths by themselves, that’s why religion is existencial to civilization, it’s how people are imbued with moral values “by default” instead of having to read 50+ books on western philosophy, history and economics to arrive at the same conclusion
It used to be so easy to laugh at how ridiculous the “woke” people are. Now that we see how destructive and violent this ideology is, I can see it really needs to be crushed. We should still laugh though
Capitalism is the same as the communist slave state, well modern day capitalism, the behemoth it's morphed into, if you pay someone nothing and pay someone less than what they need to live, as has been established in America for along time, what is the difference? I'm sorry to say not enough of one, you lambast anything that's not capitalism, but capitalism is guilty of the same crimes.
We must be careful not to turn into the thing, we're trying to destroy. Jordan, just said that, that kind of ideology(the kind leftists use) is motivated by hatred of certain concepts and not by any sort of love, which resulted in terrible destruction. If you want to remove extreme leftists from existence, your deed would be judged on the means, which you use. And, if you use their means and "crush" them, you wouldn't be better than them. You would just conform to their teachings. I'm not saying that what the extreme left in the west is doing should be tolerated, but let's be concise, measured, wise and elegant in our responses, by looking deeply into what we're crushing. Because the truth is that the motto "facts don't care about your feelings" is like opening an egg with a sledgehammer, when it comes to cultured discussion. It would be better to say: "Stories change people's minds, facts often fail to do so, but facts affect the material condition of people".
*A lesson in Power* At 9 years old, I was chosen to be a camp counselor for a day, I refused. Then I was chosen to be Unit Director for the day (camp Boss). I accepted. Later that day, I got too bossy with the older guys that worked at the camp. They threaten to beat me up. So, I brought myself under control. That was my lesson about abusing power.
Keep shouting the truth from the highest place, let the world be told what it dose not want to hear. "I've had enough, and I'm not going to take it anymore!"
I was born in 1981 in communist Romania and lived in the communist regime until 1989 when we had the bloody revolution that saw the dictator Ceausescu killed literally on Christmas day. I was very young but I remember how bad it was. No heat in the apartments, no electricity - I was doing my homework at candle light, no food in the stores - people wood queue for hours and hours - myself included, to get whatever was available. But this was nothing compared to what my parents and uncles went through. I have 3 uncles who defected and escaped across the border and one refugee camp after another, they finally made it to Canada. Their story is literally unbelievable. It's like a movie - perhaps better than a movie because it's true. Then there's my dad who wanted to escape from communist Romania and even tried with a friend of his. They got caught on the border because a friend of his ratted them out from fear of persecution by the state police. They were thrown into prison and when my dad finally got released, I barely recognized him. Later he would tell me stories about how badly people were beaten up in prison - especially other ethnicities like Hungarians and Gypsies for trying to escape the country.The state police (the Securitate) was everywhere and people were terrified of talking even to their best friends or families out of fear of being informers. When we had the revolution, everybody was out in the main square of my city and I remember this like it was yesterday when a man came out on the balcony of the city hall and announced that the tap water was poisoned. People were scrambling, running home to inform their kids and elderly not to drink the water. My mom grabbed me in her arms and said "Thank God you're with me!". Crazy times! So yeah....communism: NO Thanks! I've had my share, young as I was.
I'm from Albania, a country where communism has been in one of its harshest forms and my parents have lived through that. Fortunately I wasn't, but even though it has been 32 years since the fall of communism, its shadows are present even today. Communism has injected into people the feeling of hatred towards each other, there's no trust between people and there is resentment in most of the people's hearts, when they see someone doing better than them. This has caused the democracy in our country to be brittle. The prime minister that is currently in power, has been in power for 9 years, and last year he won its third mandate, despite the fact that under his ruling our country has gone downhill. This fact shows nothing but the presence of communism mentality amongst the people. Snitching/spying programs like during communism are still present, and people fear to go against the government because they may get fired, their houses can get destroyed, their education can get denied, etc if their opposition is found out. There is no solidarity between people when something bad happens to someone, because everybody thinks "as long as it's not happening to me it's fine...". People are afraid to ask for their rights and i think they have developed some kind of masochism, because under iron-fist ruling they never complain but say that they deserve everything bad that happens. All of these ideas prevail even nowadays and it makes me sad, that a country with so much potential is destroying itself as the result of a foolish doctrine such as communism. I'm ending this comment with a quote from an Albanian writer: Albania was created by God, saved by chance and killed by politicians. Cit. Faik Konica
Creating hatred, division and distrust are key tactics of the marxists wherever they are. In the US Cloward and Piven and Sol Alinsky wrote about these exact tactics and parented this current madness of woke and sjw activism. Global forces are sponsoring and nurturing it too.
I understand exactly what you're saying. We have a similar psychology playing out in other places. In south Africa, the Afrikaners have essentially embraced their fate to genocide and rationalize it with either white guilt or Christian defeatism. In America we have racial masochism for folks of European ancestry. You perfectly described the mental state of some of Eastern Europe. It sounds like a volunteer based, non governmental cultural program is needed similar to what the IRA did; creating independent support and trust building networks, they illegally taught the indigenous Gaelic language, created secret stash and safe houses for dissidents on the run, etc. Good luck, keep your mind and body strong man. Mother Europa currently weeps for her people's but it hasn't always been this way and won't always be this way.
Similar situation in Croatia too. Many people still want Yugoslavia back especially younger ones because they believe life was easier back then and that we are all "brothers", but they are not aware of the damage, both physical and especially mental that the Serbs (not all of them, but most) caused to my country. The whole nation is so absorbed with materialistic things from which they can earn money, everyone is so focused on the negative and other people's lives that it is nerve-wracking! The whole country is mostly old people and that is really bad because they always vote for the same people, and, you know, old people know best! Lol I am so frustrated by all of that and thank God there are still like-minded people. I can only hope that the good will prevail.
This also sound like Canada during Covid lockdown. I was snitched out of my job because I refuse to be 'properly vaccinated'. In Quebec we had extra bullying and intimidation on top of the federal gov's. Turdeau had been in power for years here too and it's all downhill with woke culture. He cannot even provide passports for his citizens. I've been waiting for my unemployment insurance for 3 months with no news yet.
I think that famine is caused by stupidity. But I could be wrong. What was the cause of the famines in Ireland - under the British occupation? Christianity? What was the cause of the American dust bowl in the 1930s? Greed (monoculture), racism (refusing to adhere to the wisdom of George Washington Carver), Christianity, or stupidity?
@@mireyajones810 The potato famine was caused by a plant virus, but blamed on the British. 40 years later the insecticide cure was discovered. But in the Ukraine, the Soviet government under Stalin took all of the food out of the country to starve the farmers, purposely. He didn't want the people to have food because they were against his policies of collectivizing the farms. Their farms. 8 million people died because of this. The dust bowl was bad for the Oakies, but they weren't forced to stay there and starve.
My fathers great grandfather was a ‘podkulachnik’ in the land of Ukraine under USSR. He had vineyards, treated and sold horses, and was quite wealthy for the time. Soviets executed him and his brother. A newly made widow with her 3 sons were taken to the Gulag, where only the youngest survived and was able to return home now as an adult.
I work in a university and on entering a professors room, to do some maintenance, I noticed there was a poster of Mao proudly displayed on the wall. Frankly I was in shock as these professors were working with in the Law Department, 'dare I say it in the human rights department. I want to say something, 'but I am also terribly scared of what the outcome may be if I do so, but I do not want to be a coward either. If you was me How would you approach this?
I'm from Bulgaria, a country that used to be communist. My parents grew up in communist times. It sounds horrible and nothing like what the libs are trying to make it out to be. I am truly grateful communism was abolished where I live and I hope it never returns.
it will return, in different coat, from different side of world ... it always returns, because there are still people, who have so much money for several their lives and are very bored. These people are behind revolutions. It is like weed in the garden. And because history is taught certain way, with deficiency of memory.
Communism is terrible and liberal wokeness is a joke.... but I wouldn't be too quick to get into a love affair with religious conservatives like Jordan. As bad as communism was it was practically utopia compared to the theocratic horror show of the middle ages that many conservative foolishly think western civilization is based on.
Do you think that it would have been ok once the system was allowed to grow and develop over time? I mean if capitalist countries hadnt declared full spectrum warfare on socialism and strangled its every chance at success..? What do you think capitalism was like in the early stages? Im from Australia, a 'capitalist' country, and funnily enough the things that most people appreciate (or miss) the most about our society are the socialistic elements like free healthcare, education etc.. since some of our critical infrastructure has been privatised people here have had nothing but problems and insane cost of living increases.. we hate it now!
@@shawnduddridge Unfortunately no. For 3 reasons. 1.The problem was in the system as I will display in number 2, but it was also in the government as well. You had to bribe doctors in order to get better medical health. And while the "common folk" were working, the politicians were still making more money. So, there was still a divide between the poor and the wealthy. 2.Everything you owned beloved to the government and everyone had the exact same salary. That means that you could be working the exact same job as your co-worker who is slacking off and putting the bare minimum and still get the same pay. And as for all the land being government property, people had no motivation to look after their properties because...well it doesn't belong to them. Actually, my grandmother told me that the government used to force the adults go work the field on Saturday, which was their day off work. I don't know if other countries used to have the same policy, but Bulgaria was like that. 3.Communism has been done differently in different countries and it just doesn't work. This is of course my opinion.
@@chairific6794 Thanks for the thoughtful reply, yea sounds pretty crap to me.. but oddly more like capitalism than socialism. Sounds like quite a non democratic state where the ruling class lives a luxurious life off the backs of a huge working class, obviously something the people themselves would never choose. Also sounds a bit like a cultural problem with corruption already existed. What i was saying i guess relates a lot more to socialism than communism, and quite a few countries that started off communist via revolution or what have you, ended up quite socialist states with great qualities of life. In fact many of the most successful countries with the happiest & healthiest people and very socialist orientated. I think communism was an early and very perverted form of democratic socialism, created to appeal to the masses, but created almost as a sneaky trick by a capitalist mind. 😆
I was in town today in Lancaster England and this is God's honest truth. I saw a girl student with a small stall named the (Lancaster Marxist society). I couldn't believe what I was seeing, how are we allowing people to promote such radical ideologies which are so dangerous??
What's radical is having vast amounts of homeless people in the richest country ever, fighting wars and slaughtering people for the profit of corporations, vast joblessness, poverty, and starvation, a wealth inequality so egregious that one person cane effectively own the same wealth as millions, a police state that locks up more people per capita by far then the rest of the world, mass shootings damn near everyday, where the average citizen has little to no impact on the political process, a healthcare system run for profit rather then to help people, where a 250 year old piece of paper dictates what happens in the 21 century. All in the "greatest" country in the world.😒 Yeah that's America, not Russia, not Cuba, not Venezuela, the failed empire of the USA.
@@dreadtrain2846 If it's freedom to go into medical debt at the slightest medical procedure, freedom to live on the streets when you can't afford a home, freedom to be a wage slave or run a wage slave company. What freedom is their when 99% of the population has to work or die and has no say in how the business they work for is managed or run or anything. Freedom to be oppressive by a 1% capitalist class who propagandize the population so they can make profits off others labor nah. That's not freedom. Capitalism doesn't equal freedom.
Indeed, how? It’s already illegal to be a communist in the US and to associate with them or their organizations. The issue is lack of enforcement due to communist subversion. When the police chief is a useful idiot who has purged his force of free-thinkers through convenient excuses like “vaccine mandates,” there is no way he will crack down on his fellow communists.
It's so sad. I'm a Veteran an was seeing a Psychiatrist at the VA. A different one every month due to turn over rate. My life has been hell having no relationship with one Dr. Having to relive my hell monthly telling my horror story repeatedly. I wish I had you Jordan.
@@JohnDoe-yq9rt I was going to write something out to explain to you how horrible and narcissistic your comment is, but you managed to write something so vile after watching the last 20 seconds of this video so I just decided you need to be told you're an absolute piece of shit.
@@JohnDoe-yq9rt does it matter? we enjoyed four years of no new wars recently but the "establishment" could not STAND that. and this time WW3 is in the plan. The elites must stay the elites. War is good for their enrichment. Seeing a US POTUS check his watch as 13 of our best passed by in their coffins all for a photo op for him "ending the war" leaving thousands behind, and people falling of of planes, cemented that.
Jordan peterson is talking about the Book called Demons/The possessed by Dostoyevsky its known as one of his best 4 novel. The character he was talking about was Nikolay Stavrogin OR Pyotr Verkhovensky man this book gave me depression it was boring at first but then it kind of takes time to get going but its very intense after it gets going. Im happy he mentions this
There is nothing good about Dostoyevsky. He was a truly disgusting person, a connoisseur of human suffering. Only people who are dwelling on mental illness (like psychologists and psychiatrists) find him facinating.
@@solstice1681 Please do and just a tip: Dont expect it to be filled with things like his other books. its very unique. Most often people read with an expectation and get disappointed if they arent met
Bravo, Mr. Peterson. It is truly alarming how the population in the US has gone from having a clear understanding of both the practical flaws and historical crimes of communism to being essentially one step away from completely embracing and demanding it. It is truly upsetting and frightening.
@@mat3828 The "horrors and ruin" of capitalism lifted more people out of absolute poverty faster than any other system. Unless i'm missing some form of govt that wildly succeeded but has been hidden from view. Dont tell me, let me guess....socialism, rite?
The US is far, far closer to Fascism than Communism. It would be a marvel to me if you could even define Communism, much less actually point out the Socialist aspects of US society. And no, "government control" and "totalitarianism" don't count as they are meaningless buzzwords that describe every single economic system outside of mad max Libertarianism.
I used to play a computer game called Civ 4 all the time. Loved it! You get to pick historical leaders of past and current civilizations. Then attempt to advance your civilization through history to achieve different victories. The game play is not the point though. I once saw someone play as Stalin for the Russian civilization. I remember saying "Holy shit! Is Hitler in the game too!?" Nope. No Hitler, but Mao of China was also in the roster! How choosy we are when including some of the worst human beings to ever slither across our planet.
Man this video should be translated or at least spanish subtitled so every person in LATAM could watch it and understand this evilness that communism is. Specially here in Cuba. God Bless You man.
@J J I graduated from college in 2006 (B.A.), and I still have yet to figure out where I might land professionally. No shit. On the good side, this shit won't take long; but on the other, nothing yet has been settled & there's nowhere to find guidance.
@realDestroyer dont listen to that "J J Jerk" I wrote my Dr. dissertation on on The Missile Crisis Of October and it was accepted without issues. So keep going you are on the right track. P.S. I found the J.F.K, Library on line to be a great source of reference material. Best Wishes. '
It makes sense. I take this view for granted because of my older family members who speak stories to me about communist regime. It is good to talk about it so other people could imagine what it was like. The only sad thing in my mind is that europe nowadays is close to become another totalitarian regime. Not sure if it is heading towards communism but totalitarian for sure.. democracy as we knew it is on thin ice here in europe, but we didnt lose yet.
As a Bulgarian who grew up behind the iron wall, i thank you for talking about it. It is scary how there is a process going on of rehabilitation of this monstrosity of a social order. People are forgetting what we dealt with and currently lament how great it was.
Another Bulgarian here, and I join your opinion. The neomarxist tendencies in the west are being lounched by communist spies and/or western so called 'useful idiots' somewhere in the 70ties. They will destroy the western civilisation if not addressed. So, thank you, Dr Peterson, for your incredible job to explain this dengerous reality to the people.
Yeh despite him getting millions of fans purely because of his dumb views, he is brave and courageous to speak out, really putting his head on the line
On a flight across the USA, I met a retired US Diplomat, who was born and grew up in a communist country. She loves the USA and absolutely hates socialism (communist lite), and communisim itself. She considered herself most fortunate to have been able to come to the United States. I really enjoyed talking with her - a most energetic, wonderful individual.
Socialism - communism lite? Really!? Wow that's a very generalised view. I bet you find a whole lot of people of lower class( cast) in your wonderful "free world" that hates capitalism too. Especially those millions who are victims of your fantastic billionaire oligarchs like Musk, Besos, Gates and the rest of the elite. What's so wrong about trying to even out the grotesque differences. Why does anyone feel they need to afford a million meals a day when they know that has to mean others will starve to death? What is so wrong about trying to find a system that brings a more even distribution? What's so wrong about being social in a world of billions?
To have lived or be born under a tyrant’s autorité and his multifaceted death punishments such as Lénine,a deadly violent father (or mother), or ultra chemically disruptive life systems , or other world order weapons freaks , can create a new generation of more human people in need to repair and find equity and desire for life , ??? as the people in the communist East ??? The confrontations of East and West is in the need to have a sustainability way of life in each country !
As a polish hater of everything communist, this man is incredible. He is someone who will be cited in 300 years, and they will say well, thousands of people laughed at him bullied him, but he was the first one to understand IT. A man ahead of his time in his historical summaries.
As a Polish person who grew up in communist regime I approve this message
You may have to fight for your life again, not long from now. The Russian Bear wants to do a comeback tour.
@@CopperBased
It’s the PANDA bear that we should be worrying about.
As a Czech person who grew up in a socialist czechoslovakia, I laugh every single time Peterson speaks about communism
@@enerpro2955 you must not be old enough to have seen your own friend or family members disappear into the forced labor camps.
@@eldermillennial8330 The panda is more likely going to starve to death.
As a Romanian person who grew up in communism I approve this message and the Polish guy message😀
Bravo mai Pulica
As a Romanian you should know that Russian army invaded Romania (like with all eastern Europe) and installed a "communist" regime over-night, having a Russian secret agent at the top of the "communist" party. The economy was dictated by Russia and there was never any Democracy. And the 1968 invasion of Czechoslovakia was because it wanted to break free from the Russian influence/block.
So the USSR era was an extension of the Russian Empire, that's why Russia revers Lenin.
Oh, and we also had countless deaths, and Moldova had entire trains deported to Siberia. Why? Because of Communism? No, because of the expansion of Russia.
Communism by definition means "the working people own and control the means of production", and right from the start it was the opposite (a dictatorship).
@@ubuntuposix nu sunt in totalitate de acord cu tine dar iti dau dreptate cu privire la optica prin care ideologia comunista NU reprezentat o baza pt aparitia gulagurilor sau pentru repatrierile facute in interiorul URSS ului. Am observat in ultimii ani, ca americanii sunt obsedati de ideologie si venereaza ideoligia ca fiind alfa si omega cand in realitate multe manevre sunt infaptuite pt scopuri mult mai practice decat ideologia. Pt noi, restul planetei, ideologia este doar un instrument pentru a obtine putere, pt americani ideologia a devenit bible de urmat la punct si virgula. Multe din manevrele realizate in Europa, est sau vest, au avut o motivatie geopolitica la radacina, si, uneori, vendet personale. Altedati au reprezentat conspiratii in purul sens al cuvantului. Dar aproape niciodata ideologia a nu a reprezentat litera de lege pt votanti. Si in momentul de fata votul, in cea mai mare parte a sa, in Ro si in restul Europei, este dat impotriva cuiva nu pt cineva. Ideologia e doar o pacaleala pe care americanii o musca din ce in ce mai din plin.
As an American that has never gre up in communism and hates it… I also approve this and the Polish guys message
@@darthcarnage6734 While Americans take a moment of silence and weeping about the "Communist" era in Eastern Europe, the actual people who lived there and in those times are 50% saying it was better back then.
Personally I can't find a person on my street who doesn't say that it was way better back then and that capitalists destroyed the entire industry.
I too grew up in the "Communist" era, I'm born in 1984 (and the system got replaced by US-Capitalism in 1990) and I can tell you there was and is massive US propaganda to discredit Communism. Even back in that period, there was a "Free Europe Radio" which was a US state owned non-commercial radio designed for anti-communist propaganda.
My friends from Cuba really hate communism. They actually appreciate freedom way more then me.
Do they live in Cuba?
They mean their friends who got a free education in medicine in Cuba but then came to America to exploit a for profit healthcare system, while screwing over Americans who paid (or went into debt) for their education.
@@Vandal_Savage they probably escaped, many Cubans escape. You can't voice your opinion in Cuba that easily, y'know???
@@Vandal_Savage unfortunately many continue to live there, with the misfortune of not being able to say what they think and not being able to fight to change it
My Cuban friend is the most hardcore American I know. Its crazy and so respectable- reminds me what being an American is supposed to be about. (Edited to say my friend is American born but his parents left Cuba)
“One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship.” George Orwell
Orwell would have rejected Peterson's defense of hierarchy and traditional structures. Orwell critiqued all forms of authoritarianism (including christianity in its current politicized perversion) and believed in collective action for justice, not reinforcing the very systems that perpetuate inequality. Peterson’s rhetoric aligns more with maintaining the status quo than challenging it...
Instead, he identified with democratic socialism, particularly the kind that advocates for a mix of social equality, individual freedom, and political democracy. Not really what Peterson's about because he calls it "communism" and "stalinist" whenever it's about protecting minorities and LGBQT+ people
Indeed: Orwell was deeply concerned with the use of language as a tool of political control and believed that controlling language could limit individual freedom and thought. This suggests that he would likely be wary of any forced language or pronoun use that could be imposed in a way that restricts personal freedom or expression.
At the same time, Orwell was committed to equality and social justice, and he criticized all forms of oppression, whether based on class, race, or gender. If he were alive today, he might recognize the importance of gender pronouns as a way to affirm individuals' identities and respect their autonomy. His support for individual freedom and autonomy would likely extend to supporting the rights of people to define and express their gender identity as they see fit.
In summary, while Orwell did not directly engage with the issue of gender pronouns, his commitment to freedom of expression, social justice, and resistance to authoritarian control suggests that he would likely support the respectful use of gender pronouns as a way of affirming individual identity.
Orwell is a traitor. Good writer but he was an idiot
Dr. Jordan Peterson is so critically important in today's society! He's the beacon of sanity in this increasingly insane world!
Which is precisely why he was banned from Twitter.
@Erika Rouby we also have Thomas Sowell, but he's now in his 90s. God bless them both.
@Erika Rouby search him on TH-cam. There are many.
Like he is the best. Sikeeeee.
He's a beacon of ignorance. It didn't cross his mind that the USSR was an extension of the Russian Empire (which invaded militarily all the countries of Eastern Europe to install "Communist" regimes, having Russian Agents at the top). The 1968 CzechoSlovakian invasion was because it wanted to break free from the Russian influenced block.
And what he says in the end is so ignorant.. "you think you understand the Marxist doctrine (to implement Communism)". It doesn't cross his mind that you don't have to be a Marxist to be a Communist, in fact if you read Marx and Engels, you realize they are just critics of Capitalism, don't take the time to explain HOW would the working class rule (which is essentially the definition of Communism), but they do take the time to criticize real rational Communist thinkers.
It doesn't cross his mind that if you have the US against you (sanctioning, agents infiltrating the country) anywhere, the Gov is forced to take Martial Law like measures, terrorizing people with secret police, while the county is getting crushed by the embargo/sanctions. It doesn't cross his mind that there can be a Rational Democracy. That any thug Dictator can pretend that the people are doing the ruling, thus its a "Communist" regime.
My parents escaped Mao’s communism. They suffered true famine when they lived there. Yet my mother, because of propaganda, still things that the real person behind Mao’s tyranny was his wife, because Mao was old already…
And despite the CCP having control over China still today, she doesn’t believe China is under a Communist government. It’s literally called communist party… many Chinese people also will never know about what happened in Tianamen.
you hear a similar story from Russian immigrants- they claim their parents are often also apologists and clearly misinformed. When the state has direct control of all the information people receive its hard to be surprised the citizens believe whatever the state says. Especially when everything else seems normal to them- and it does because the state has made sure of its normality.
What did happen in tainaman ? I ask because I don't know if what I was taught is correct...
Scary and sad how the human mind works and believing what your eyes see isn't necessarily what the true reality is and it is because of this that totalitarianism communism authoritism can easily flourish
@@dawnt7664 there was a huge gathering of university students and regular folks who over the course of weeks were asking for new freedoms. The communist party feeling threatened sent in the army on 4 June 1989 and there were a lot of deaths.
@@dawnt7664 there was a massacre there in 1989 of students who were protesting for freedom.
I wish people took human nature more seriously. These ideas become much more obvious when a clinical psychologist/professor/philosopher explains it over hundreds of hours of content. Peterson cares about history and is devoted to the philosophy of science, but he has not lost his soul. He's a rare "moral" scientist. Please share his content as much as possible.
I dare to claim he would disagree with the last sentence
All glory to Jesus
Right-wingers care about fake history and erasing history. Just look at all their bickering over Critical Race Theory. Sad, bigoted people. By the way, Socialism is good. BLM.
@@dreadtrain2846 Is psychology not considered a science anymore?
@@camefromice - Or the second to the last.
I lived in West Berlin in 1989. The people then were moving east to west, there was no migration of West Berliners to East Berlin. The wall opened on November 9, and the East Berliners all came pouring into the Western Sectors of the city, each one intent on seeing and experiencing everything that had long been denied them. Until that day I never saw East Berliners smiling. In my many trips there before the Wall came down, the best term to describe their faces was scowling. After unification, the former western parts (and only them) of Germany poured in over 30 trillion D-Marks ($19.2 trillion dollars) over 30 years to raise the quality of life in the former East Germany, and that still hasn’t been enough to right communism’s wrongs there-it’ll take generations for that to happen. There’s no better way to destroy the budding idea of communism in people than to describe its own past horrors. Communism destroys and/or enslaves all it touches, it must be seen as the malignancy that it is and dealt with honestly. There has never been a successful Marxist-Leninist government to this day.
As a person from Eastern Europe I disagree with you
No wonder when the countries, which exploited the whole world for centuries have a higher standard of life. Communism kiiled millions, capitalism kills billions and the count continues.
@@wayne4104would you rather live in a communist country?
@@Incognito334 There are no communist countries, as there will be no countries in a communist society. If you mean a socialist country, then it very much depends, what countries I’ll be able to choose from.
@@wayne4104communism kill trillions. According to your standard of judging capitalism die by counting “every day population that dead from disease”, communism kill way more than 100 million. Just look at how India and china in 80s restrict the born of babies in each family, you can already image how many unborn babies are killed by communism
"When you're counting in the tens of millions, the point has already been made."
Oh wow, that gave me chills
it is true, only during 1959-62, around 50millions death in china by Maoism. not to mention the late on culture revolution leads to similar number of death in about 10 years. ccp will never give you a real number, but I have several friends who collected data in county level and put things together. unfortunately their results will never been published.
the 100 millions victims of communismhas been debunked even by the same authors who came up with that number. It has no academic value.
Yeah really, we in the west think that Hitler was the worst maybe because we have a fairly accurate body count but it doesn’t hold a candle to the communists.
@@nOOn3nOOn3 Accusations of cherry picking should be backed up by the demonstration of a larger picture. What about those numbers were cherry picked? What stats were manipulated?
I wouldn't be surprised if maybe the numbers were exaggerated, however the difference between 40 and 50 million does not make the picture for the CCP look much better.
And Binjamin S kinda of crapping on China is not unfounded. The CCP has a history of policies which shot itself in the foot. I.e. burning down all cultural relics they had in the Cultural Revolution (such that China does not have much cultural relevance and has westernized with authoritarian characteristics), banging pots and pans 24/7 to kill the birds via exhaustion (resulting in famine, since the boogs ate all the crops), the one child policy, etc. Not to mention current policies too.
And all they ever taught us about in school was the Nazis and a supposed 6 million.
Who runs our schools?
"Universal education is the most corroding and disintegrating poison that liberalism has ever invented for its own destruction".
-A.H.
My parents were socialists, but they never, ever called themselves such. They (my father mostly) just spoke warmly of Cuba and the USSR. It took me well into my forties before I came to terms with that, and began to reflect how these belief system affected our family and world view.
Doesn't sound too bad... Very cool that they didn't hate other countries on the basis of nationalism!
If you don't mind sharing, what did you conclude in your reflection on how it affected your belief system and worldview?
Look how many in Canada and the US think their country is great when it is not
@@biketickler65 does starving to death sound bad? Does forced labor sound bad? Pfft.
@@biketickler65 why would they hate other countries on the basis of nationalism?
These older lectures have a lot of value, and many newer viewers might miss them. Im glad to see that they're resurfacing.
I agree
I hope the DW doesn't monopolize Jordan. It's great he's joining them but my first thought was that all his videos are going to be pulled from YT and be on DW+ now.
@@firingallcylinders2949 i actually made a comment on a video 2 days ago that JP responded to. I expressed my disappointment that it seems like much of the newer long form content/interviews are being cut off with the rest being put on DailyWire and thus behind a paywall and he basically said that TH-cam content will remain on TH-cam.
Old shit is still shit, at least with real shit the stench decreases over time. Peterson's shit retains its odor.
@ Michiel Karskens wtf are you babbling on about?
As a Chinese who are struggling for the freedom now, I approve this message and I call for Take down the Chinese Communist party!!
I hope you're using a VPN.
石乐志
我很喜欢龙虾教授，他关于现代女性的一些看法我很喜欢，但是他对于马克思主义和毛泽东认识的不够深刻，事实上，marx将他的人类伟业分成两个部分，socialism et communism，视频里说的都是有关socialism的内容，他们与真正的被marx描述出来的communism大相径庭。另外，毛泽东此人并不能算作斯大林的简单复制版本，great leap 带有严重官僚主义性质，cultural revolution则沾染上了anarchy
i d i o t
Chinas population went from 400m to 900m under Mao Zedong. Men Lie, woman Lie, numbers don’t.
May the revolutionary spirit of Mao Zedong live on forever
The reference to Possesed / Devils book is incredible. I vividly remember one part, where a cell of revolutionaries were discussing how overthrown the state and there was one professor amongs them, who said that he wrote a book where he explained it all. And no matter how noble their intentions and words about freedom are, not matter what they do, they will end up with tyrany. I remember this part, because Dostoyevsky understood nature of communism and decribed it in his absolute brilliance in one sentence.
If there is anything what you should know about communism, it is this: "No matter how noble your intentions are, no matter what you do, you will end up with tyranny."
Without any opposition we will always push for more power. It makes me wonder, is tyranny eventually always inevitable?? Checks and balances keep corruption at bay for the longest time but there will always be powerful people tht conspire in the shadows and others tht can be bought
@@goldtiger9453 that was not the point. The point was that in order to achieve communism you need to introduce policies which are tyrannical. There is no other way of achieving it. The nobility of your intentions are irrelevant, because you can promise freedom, fairness and absolute equality, but in order to do so you need to crush individuality which produces all sorts of inenequalities.
And I disagree that every political system is resulting in tyranny. Or at least they do not need tyranny to function, while communist state cannot function without tyranny.
@@capollyon I get your point and i agree communism is the worst, its also sneaky. My point is tht powerful people will always overstep.Once the few have absolute power tyranny seems like the natural endgame. Democratic Republics take longer to corrupt but inch by inch it will happen. Lol kinda like the plot to starwars
@@igualnimp yeah... when is someone using term "liberal tyranny" or "liberal fasist", you know that it is time to leave the room. Good bye.
The fundamental problem is that collectivism - communism - always places all of the power in the state, and therefore in the hands of few or possibly one person. And as we know with human nature, absolute power corrupts absolutely, and tyranny will always be the outcome.
As a Czech person who was born to the Czechoslovakian Socialist Republic I approve this message and those of the Vietnamese, Polish, Lithuanian and all other messages of this sorts!
When I see ‘young communists’ or someone with Che on their t-shirt in countries that did not experience communism, I feel a horrible rage over their insulting arrogance!
lol you didn't experience communism. You experienced russian imperialism. The difference between the USSR and the Tzar was that the soviets were more industrialized and had enough manpower and weapons to conquer all of eastern europe, while tzarist russia could barely invade poland
@@SatchelChannel you are proving my point.
@@SatchelChannel barely invade?? They literally split the country between them and their foreign friends, held the power for 123 years, murdered and oppressed millions of people and actively tried to annihilate polish culture.
Che was Hansom , Charming and a ruthless murderer.... I often wonder if he were ugly... would people think he was so cool.
I was born in People's Republic of Poland. Strictly speaking we only tried to build communism - the 'true one', however, it took us about 40 years to realize this was impossible.
Crazy how much was predicted about the 20th century by these scholars.
We are lucky to have you Dr. Peterson. Thank you for what you do.
Crazy how much was foretold in the Bible.
crazy how its happening anyway
Imagine being in science or the military back,when they owned the internet before it was let out to the general public. I believe they saw the pitfalls of this technology first hand.
What was predicted? Sorry but none of you fanboys are going to get your Gilead-inspired right-wing libertarian Christian Taliban theocracy.
@@DM-dk7js the medification of not just identity but also of daily life.
"The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became a truth"
-George Orwell.
Orwell was a socialist.
George Orwell was a reactionary snitch, rapist, racist, colonial cop, who plagiarised most of his work.
George Orwell was a socialist. Lol.
Double think
@@sebastianalegria3401 orwell was a socialist.
I must say, I'm glad he has joined the Daily Wire. His wisdom and intelligence can bring a much more advanced view of the world.
well im just dissapointed you need to pay for it. his knowledge was always avaliable for free in youtube
@@migatocomeoscuridad Perhaps, but TH-cam is known for taking a lot of things away that needed to be seen. I wouldn't be surprised if they deleted his content anyway had he not joined the Daily Wire.
Because imo he had nowhere else to go and to make profit it's better to go where most of your audience already is.
Mayne he can knock some sense into Shapiro.
daily wire is a dangerous playpen. They are going to get in the way if he ever needs to say anything really really true. Watch how Shapiro was silenced about the election fraud in 2020.
Dr. Peterson is absolutely right.
My grandmother was living an ordinary happy life as a university student in pre-communist Romania in the late 1930s, but that all changed in 1940 when the Soviet Union invaded her home region of Bessarabia (modern-day Moldova). She, along with her mother and younger brother and sister, was deported to a gulag concentration camp somewhere in northern Russia, not because they committed any crime, but simply because her father was a businessman (he owned a small shoe factory) and held anti-communist views, which automatically qualified him and anybody even remotely related to him as "enemies of the working class". My grandmother's siblings were later taken away and sent to an orphanage. She met them again only 10 years later in 1950 (her brother later disowned her because he hated Jews and she married my grandfather who was Jewish). Her mother, unfortunately, didn't survive the harsh cold of Siberia and my grandmother had to bury her with her bare hands in that snowy wilderness, without a proper funeral and without a tombstone to mark the grave.
Greetings from Germany.
I am from Romania too
Lived 14 years in the era Ceausescu.
Brutal times.
Sorry for my bad English.
*Thats why I will never get up arms and I will use them to PROTECT me and my family from CRIMINALS, LEFTIST ZEALOTS and the STATE itself if NECESSARY. I'll DIE defending FREEDOM before I will LIVE as a slave*
It kind of sounds like your family were rightists and possible Nazi collaborators considering their stance on Jews and their economic status. I'm willing to bet the conditions in that factory were horrid. They absolutely were enemies of the working class.
Maybe Romania shouldn't join Nazi Germany in invasion on USSR? You are just a hypocrit, like Jordan Peterson.
@@vladtheimpaler5440 Your english is quite good. Gott segne
"That you understand the Marxist doctrines better than anyone else ever has." That is the thing about Marxists. They usually believe they are the smartest person in the room.
You hit the nail on the head here
You mean, just like Marx himself did?
You are so on point with this!
Vice versa, their opponets tend to think so.
You mean like Jordan Peterson talking about marxism but having admitted he has never read any of Marx actual works, except for the first few pages of the Manifesto? That kind of a "smart guy"?
Cambodia suffered so much under the communist regime 75-79'. I didn't live through it but my parents did. The trauma that my family and my people live through is unimaginable and to hear people being sympathetic toward any variation of communism boils my blood. Thanks jorden for speaking on this
camdodia was under the rule of paranoid dictator , that's has nothing to do with marxism
did you suffered more in communism or capitalism thats the question
@@NostalgicMem0ries attempts to build socialism were a century ago in under developed countries under tremendous difficulties . We can't compare it to nowadays .
@@adolescentdeviation133 The same old excuse "But that wasn't real Socialism/Communism". Yes, it was. Both are totalitarian systems that execute any non conformist.
do you think it's an accident that there are always the gulags and mass slaughter?
@@NostalgicMem0ries Well there's about 3 million Cambodians that didn't survive to answer that question. That should be answer enough.
He's actually a great teacher. What joy to live under the same era as these people that can get you to snap right out of illogical thinking under these divided times.
He's been pretty off the perc after his benzo episode tho.
@@speedfastman Off the perc?
@@rules4life337 No cap fr fr.
Peterson is profoundly illogical about almost every topic he speaks on. The guy literally called a magazine cover “authoritarian” because he didn’t find her attractive 😂
@@mrjpb23 Sorry. Not beautiful.
As a Lithuanian person who grew up under a communist regime and whose family memeber died in Siberian gulags, I approve this message. Kudos to Polish and Romanian guys here.
Cope
As a Serbian person who grew up in a lovely Yugoslav socialist society based on communist principles nurtered away from the Stalin's perversion of the original principles I disagree with Jordan's simplistic view
Then that is not true communism.
@@igornovakovic1179 : I am sure every totalitarian thug communist agrees with you.
@@keeanuherrera3846 Cope, seethe and mald, commie.
My grandparents escaped communist Cuba for the United States in 1969 with their two children and a single suitcase. Needless to say, I’m fortunate they took that risk and worked hard to afford my dad, and later my entire family, the freedoms and privileges we have in this country.
My grandfather doesn’t consider himself Cuban anymore. Instead, he’d tell you he’s a proud American. We’re thankful to live in the United States, and we pray for those oppressed by communism.
I'm sure you families ex slaves are happy your dad left Cuba
God bless.
It is interesting you say that about immigration from Cuba, my Grandparents immigrated from Mexico in the 1910s.
Last year wasn't there an opportunity for Cubans to come to the US, requesting asylum from the Socialist regime? But the Biden administration ignored these requests, instead allowing tens of thousands illegal aliens to flood through our Southern border.
Such a sad situation for well meaning Cubans to come here but to no avail.
Thanks Robert for sharing. I love to read about people's journeys in search of freedom and finding true pride in becoming Americans. After all that's what our beautiful nation is all about and was set up to be/ do.
The New Colossus
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
@@JSp4wN the issue with those that see america as the beacon of those coming in to find new life rather than a settler colony that has pillaged the lives of millions to create one of the most oppressive societies in the world is one of the most efficient propaganda talking points wildly shared by those in the u.s. today. this country was never the beacon of New life, it only became the facade of one for its industries. Cubas revolution was one of the most important in changing its society from a plantation colony in the hands of the u.s. ruling class to that of one continuing to fight for socialism, harmed by the embargo that every country besides the u.s. and israel wants to get rid of. look into what you were raised into, 100s of millions killed in the hands of the west, numbers poorly counted with the deaths in "communist countries" by the black book of communism. you're not absolved from indoctrination, the u.s. has done that the best to keep you docile from any criticism of the idea of class antagonism.
As a Chinese mainlander and born in late 90s, i have to admint that there are rarely materials about the four “social movements” available in public back to 20th since PRC established and it is wise for most of us as normal people to not talk about it out laud openly. i don't know what the real situation is back that special period and i have to say that's a little scared of me actually after heard what professor said.
为啥不怕资本主义的经济危机呢
@@sunruicode We DO fear the economic crisis of capitalism. But we fear it less than the statesman promising us everlasting peace in exchange for our freedom.
I wish some of my friends would listen to you - I grew up in former Czechoslovakia, emigrated to Canada and could not believe, how many people in Canada think that socialism/ communism is something good. And they will not listen even to someone who lived through it.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe - Albert Einstein
Einstein was a socialist, he even wrote an essay about it called “Why Socialism?”. So rather than misusing his quotes to prove your point, maybe you should do a little research
@@nogibiggi154 I'm aware of Einsteins ideology however I feel this quote fits well when talking about socialist views as socialism has been tried over and over and over again but always ends horribly. The definition of insanity but it'll be different THIS time
It’s because they are brainwashed here and are not taught about where it didn’t go right and how many die from it
I guess that’s pretty accurate on handmaids tale when there’s Canadian Giliad sympathizers/ activists. It’s always the ignorant, well intentioned ppl that turn a society into hell.
I will continue to repost this. One of you TH-cam influencers needs to talk about this. For pride month I had over a hundred companies send me emails about honoring pride month. Same thing for black history month. Same thing for national woman’s day and Mother’s Day. But no emails for Father’s Day. But this is worse than that. I got 0 emails from companies recognizing the day of our independence. I got a couple 4th of July sales emails. But not a single email honoring the 4th of July. The birth of our great nation. The day we recognize, remember and celebrate our freedom. Is that not questionable? Not a single company? Not one! But pride month was all over the place. You don’t see something wrong with that?
ding ding ding- we got a winner
We were always strongest together thts why they want us to battle every level of our identity,they want to destroy the family.
Our boys are worth fighting for. Men should be men. The feminization of them is astounding and insidious. Luckily its mostly contained in high populated metro areas. Around here in most of the fly over states, boots beer ball caps, GOD, The American FLAG, BALLS and trucks reign supreme. the girls pick them by far over any other kind of male and they are of all races.. Their families are close, the man is the head of the house, the women are partnering with that, and discipline and love works together to make the family strong and ready for anything. I work part time, I am retired, and you should see those boys I work with, all the same good young men, all American rowdy little shits who think they own the world and they do. They are by far the average American males. Remember that. The rest are followers and will never be leaders. These boys are everywhere really. And they dont give a shit about being WOKE. They already are in the BEST way. my son always gives me a fathers day card and so does his sisters. I dont give a shit about any woke corporations they can kick rocks.
That things were supposed to be days. In one case they are wothshipping mental illness, in the second case they are being black supremacists to giving blacks special moral values, in the third case they are being feminist/hembrist. In the forucase the same in the lasr case they are being....
Pride month is anti-Marxist
To really appreciate how communism does not really love or care about people, study the life of Karl Marx. Not his Manifesto or essays, his life as a person.
You will discover a self-centered, childishly immature, and arrogant person who never talked or associated with the working class that he virtue-signaled for. A man who never worked a day in his life, with soft hands that maybe had a callous finger from writing. A man who ditched his rent and debts. A man who spent whatever money that came in his hands on his own personal pleasures of cigars and drink, while his wife and children lived in filth and hunger.
When Marx did get more money from his bourgeoisie friend, Engels, who had inherited his father's textile business and lived like an aristocrat, Marx moved into a very nice middle-class house in England, complete with servants, went on a 3-week vacation with his family, then threw a ball for his daughters with 25 guests. He went straight into debt again, and again Engels had to bail him out. Tell me, how does a man who champions the working class live it up like the very bourgeoisie he denounces? Marx also pursued every inheritance from family and friends he could, even though he wrote in his Manifesto that inheritances should be done away!
He later had an illegitimate child with his housekeeper provided by Engels (Really, a housekeeper? How hypocritically bourgeoisie and exploitative of the proles!) and then ignored the child so he would not hurt his reputation. The child had to enter Marx's house through the back door in the kitchen to see his mother. The BLM founders brag of being Marxist trained yet have no problem with Marx's behavior that resembles what their grandparents endured in the Jim Crow South!
There's more, but Marx's arrogance and materialistic grasping for his own interest is the example of every Marxist today. Look at Stalin, Mao, Castro, Kim Jong, Chavez, and the BLM founders who live like the rich and famous while their people suffer from poverty and starvation.
Marxism is grifter's game to enrich the promoter who doesn't care for the rubes he or she claims to advocate for. Marx's personal life demonstrates that.
Amazing comment.
@@igualnimp whawhaaawhaatabout
Well put my friend
Lol i don't think you have read about his life. He was well beloved by his family and friends. Maybe read what his daughters, wife and friends said about him? He also worked really hard. He probably didn't do much hard labor , but he read and studied incessently. The reason why he is so admired and influential is because he worked really hard on his ideas. Most people, like Peterson, don't even bother with his writings (beyond the Manifesto) and instead just repeat the same Cold War propaganda about anything communism
Yep. Even his followers couldn't stand him much of the time. He was a monster while he lived . The world would have been far better without his existence. One of the sorriest individuals to ever live.
As a Chinese, I am amazed Mao is still revered by many even young people here. You can tell how the education system works. He has arguably committed the most severe crimes against against Chinese people in Chinese history, worse even than the Japanese during WWII based on death toll. I cannot imagine the despair I would have felt living under his rule. There's absolutely no escape from the tyranny, just like today's North Korea. The only escape was to swim to Hong Kong, but other than the villagers living near the border, one can't even leave one's residential area without government approval, to buy a train ticket, or stay in a hotel. And there are people who are still nostalgic about those days in China.
Chairman Mao is the greatest man in the china history. Long live marxism leninism maoism!
@@jeandonadoni2021 I feel sorry for you
That sounds more like a totalitarian regime
@@jeandonadoni2021 troll comment lol
@@1-spartan We love chairman Mao. The only mistake he made was not taking care of Taiwan and totally destroyed the enemy there.
Truth in history. Truly exceptional clear thinking on display.
@Potatohead it's just perspective potatohead. Mans inhumanity to man is clearly documented as you so easily stated. I see you understand. Until you are in front of the world expressing your views. Discrediting another's opinion is nothing more than banter until your center stage. Good luck!
"Lenin was as terrible as Hitler because Stalin was Lenin's henchmen" ? Where did he get that information from ? Lenin's "henchmen" was Trotsky, Stalin weaseled his way into the Bolshevik party and power, there was a statement from Lenin that he feared Stalin gaining too much power ? J.P. trying to rewrite history for his bias ?
@@Sanguinarius9999 Nothing false is said here. Stalin was an important pawn in Lenin's regime.
As a cuban who grew up under communism and lived 25 years there, I approve of this tremendous message. The myth of the cave in Plato is a clear example of the way we live under a military communist system. Actually, is even worst.
you would be mad if you saw how many leftists in my country (🇧🇷) love Castro and Guevara.
You are just a Тra1t0r
@@Davi237f He might get an accurate mental image of reality if he went to Colombia and Haiti to see how wonderful capitalism is there.
@@googlesucks662 Capitalism has been great for society, tell me which system works better, we had far more starving people in the past, before capitalism. Have you even been to Haiti or Columbia I have and almost every single country in SA and Central American islands, over 100 different countries in this great planet we call earth, and none of those people are trying to immigrate anywhere but capitalistic countries PERIOD. Do you even have a pass port?, as a huge chunk of Americans do not.
@@ryans1623 LOL. I have travelled extensively, including to China. It seems to work far better for society than capitalism, which you would have seen working so well in your travels in Central America and Haiti and had those travels of yours (you would think you could spell Colombia correctly) included travel to China. Lots of people immigrate to China and Vietnam as difficult as they make it for people to do so. Of course, they didn't steal a continent from others and genocide those others as they did so so neither China nor Vietnam have historically had a need for immigration. China's largest city, FWIW, seems to be about 20 years more technologically advanced than western cities, there are no slums to be seen, no homeless on the streets (though there are many trying to hawk products to you) and there are high speed trains. Lots of high speed trains.
His now no holds bar, unapologetic, direct approach is a marvel to witness. We'd all be so lucky to speak with the conviction & fortitude of Dr. Peterson. The greatest lesson of the 20th century is that Mao, Hitler & Stalin live in all of us and under the wrong circumstances that darkness will be revealed for all to suffer under.
you forgot those who killed people in Nam, Central and South America, and the Middle East... or killing natives of other countries don't count?!
Mao and Stalin were based. Cope and seethe angloid.
this is not new! JP has always been a beast. this lecture is from a few years ago
a marvel? you gotta get outta the house, impressionable one
Meat riding is insane
As a Ukrainian, whose ancestors have been left with nothing as they were on the list for Syberia, just because they were wealthy hardworking peasants, I approve of this message. My grandma's sister together with her husband was exiled to Syberia (just the second day after their wedding), and her son (my godfather) was born there. They returned when he was 5 years old - in the middle of the 50th. Collectivization just killed a Ukrainian village, man-made FAMINE, great terror, "executed renaissance"( in the 30th erasure of Ukrainian intelligence by communists). That is communism! All this past led to the invasion in 2014 and the full-scale invasion 2022.
I am albanian and yes you guys are different definitely from the Russian culture....You guys have a colorful open mind at that's good
At least they taught their citizens how to spell Siberia
@@subutaynoyan5372Lame comment
Russia has been a capitalist country since the fall of Soviet Union.
The Pavlik Morazov story was likely a myth, but is no less sinister for it. He was the one who informed on his kulak father for hiding grain. He was made a hero throughout the CCCP because his story represented the message The Party wanted to spread: Loyalty to the State and its authority figure was more important than loyalty to your own parents. Whenever the children are taught this, it ALWAYS ends in blood. ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
This is the exact type of lectures we should be getting at Universities.
it wouldn't really say much
Fat chance.
The tenured communists would sooner eat their shorts.
We should get a bunch of propaganda that will help lead us to climate catastrophe?
Good luck when your failed slavery economic system leads humanity to extinction.
It is great propaganda. The exact thing that professors are NOT supposed to do. We are supposed to encourage reading and critical thought. China is the number one economy in the world. Is it due to "communism" or state-control, or mafia tactics? If Communism created economic disaster, what do you call it when Communists create wealth? Slavery creates a lot of wealth for the few, same as monarchy, same as Western banksterism. Peterson calls the slave system of Canada "freedom". Hmm.
@@combativeThinker what Countries are you all in? most all college in the USA and their professor are capitalist and teach anti communism. Watch this debunking "Truth About Communism" Video Caleb Maupin
As someone from East Africa (Eth), almost everything was owned by the state (internet, electricity, water, media...). We had one of the slowest and the most costly internet in the world (browsing on my phone at 50kbps 2011). Somalia, whom they portrayed as war-torn, had a little faster internet. Power was a joke with frequent outages, where one time it was out for a week (and we just shrug). Nowdays they semi-privatized the internet service and it has gotten much faster. More companies have been allowed to compete.
The communist era of the 70s and 80s was described to me as scary. A lot of friends near my mom were picked away for having the opposition's pamphlet on hand (some reunited others unknown). Over two million have died, and seeing carcasses on the streets was the norm (sometimes deliberately left there so that people were intimidated). The man still alive somewhere in his 80s. So a large gov is a ticket to a horror show. When it offers a bad service, who can punish it and by what reassurance? We just shrugged it off. Any state only cares about expanding its power; don't contribute to it or get too comfortable with being an adult baby lullabied by a nanny state.
USA and Canada are in desperate need of voices like yours that have experienced these things..
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y in France telecoms were owned by the state, energy was owned by the state(until recently) and 100% of the rails as well. Never had a black out, we got something close to internet(was used for dating, erotic stuffs a lot xd) called minitel way before internet, and we have probably the best satisfaction for trains world wide. And we are not even socialists. How do you explain that? Peterson mixes everything when it comes to socio political paradigms. He mixes sovietism, maoism, communism, socialism in the same sentence even sometimes and he absolutely never talks about the incentives. There are never nuances, it is imho borderline revisionist.
Maybe google the words "jacobinism" and "profilaxia". Sometimes things are a certain way because it's scientifically better, there doesn't have to be ideology in every-fucking-thing.
@@nathanielnizard2163 „ATrain“ is like a „recruiter“, propagating alarmism (check his Twitter account) n like a missionary trying to indoctrinate other minds…looks like this has become a funnel too (a lot of ppl in academia r paid by TH-cam now). Godspeed Murica
@@nathanielnizard2163 I think you'll agree that since the Revolution, France has adopted much of the Socialist principles (which, in my opinion, has made it a much weaker economically than it should be) with the exception being the right to allow it's citizens to have a free and fair vote on who leads her.
These Socialist values have seriously hindered France's citizens' ability to prosper. It's very well known that French policies make it extremely difficult for businesses to grow and develop.
The state loves to take money, but hates those who want to make money.
@@nathanielnizard2163 France also has laws by the government that ban Paternity tests. With the reasoning being, preservation of peace for families. I find it pretty Abhorrent in this day and age that men in France are just supposed to accept by faith and faith alone, when there is a scientific solution available. I'll be fair and say that a lot of modern society is still behind on rights regarding paternity, but not all of them are as barbaric as that. It also speaks to the terrible infidelity that must be happening in that country if they feel that hell would break loose if they allowed tests.
I understand it's slightly off topic, but you're boasting about France as if they have the right attitude. They certainly don't in that area.
Thank you Peterson. You saved me from the socialist/marxist modern liberal mess. I was a middle schooler obsessed with far left ideas which carried with me to high school. My peers and teachers thought it was an appropriate ideology. If I hadn’t seen your lectures I would have been stuck in a permanent echo chamber.
I think you should keep reading then because left liberalism, even far left woke one, currently has nothing to do with communism. And modern socialism also has nothing to do with communism. It’s just what Republican Party wants people to believe. Currently socialism is basically about the state taking more care about their underprivileged citizens through fair taxes and nobody is talking about taking from the rich and giving to the poor.
Hi, Bold! I had the same experience -- except it was my grandmother in 1964 -- very kindly but very clearly she explained the kinds of things Dr. Peterson is presenting -- I was 8 but I totally understood. I was staying with her for a couple weeks, and I was curious about some of her books, and why she didn't favor Johnson for president. It changed my life, indeed inspired me over the years to write articles and books, etc., -- all because my grandmother gave me the unvarnished truth about Leftism as it played out as Communism in systematic slavery and death. So glad you gave Dr. Peterson a listen!
@Prasanth Thomas yes I’m sure because I’ve lived in communism back in the 80s in Eastern Europe. Marx didn’t invent communism per se, Lenin did. And if you listened to Peterson, you would notice that in communism there was no space for individualism and everybody was supposed to be equal, living in perfect utopian society without divisions. Wokeness however promotes extreme individualism and recognition that everybody needs to be recognized for what they want to be and you cannot criticize their choices. Akay communism was focusing on economy while wokeness is purely about social identify and justice.
I just watched Chapman’s video and he made some good points but I think he’s just throwing out his personal, unconfirmed hypotheses. Like the link between Marx and wokeness is far fetched to say the least.
We would all be better off if we listened to established journalists with great reputation rather than social media personalities who are not scrutinized by any adult in the room.
Lastly, not sure if you’re in the US but it’s really annoying to see all good socially responsible programs being thrown out the window just because republicans shout communism when they see a social support program like eg. universal healthcare. This doesn’t mean socialism and socialism is not communism at all! You’re just brainwashed and then you suffer the worst healthcare system in the developed world and people go bankrupt if they go to the doctor with a simple issue. Over and out
@Prasanth Thomas never had such a class and have no idea what you’re talking about. Your comment about religion and heresy is rather incoherent too. Are you repeating things you don’t understand? Anyway, your brand of communism is irrelevant here and your comment about Trotsky is false. It was Stalin who had him killed just like thousands of others, who he considered a threat to his power. Has nothing to do with communist ideology. Not to mention that Stalin did not care about it either, once he took power by Lenin.
And lastly bringing up BLM as an example here is nonsense. BLM are not woke, they oppose racism and police brutality so perhaps indeed some Marxist ideas about fighting oppression could be useful. But that doesn’t make them communists or socialists, despite what Fox News is telling you. You really need to diversify your information diet and start thinking critically, otherwise you’ll end up in a sect
I am glad you changed and open your mind
I wish you could change the minds of others especially students if you gave them those ideas
While visiting Romania I took a guided tour around the capital Bucharesti. He pointed out landmarks and so on. At one point was talking about the Communist era and said something interesting. When ask about Communism he replied there was a little good but mostly very bad. Someone in the group said "how was it good?". He replied..if you a starving peasant it's good they give you a job and a apartment but if you even slightly successful it not good because they take your house , land and businesses and give you a job and a apartment.
Reason why poor countries see socialism favourably.
That's what's happening in the UK at the moment. Punish those poor who want to better themselves and have a better life, even the British homeless are forgotten about, and the illegal immigrants get things first, they get free home, free transport, money. It's immoral.
I'm reading the gulag archipelago right now at Jordan's recommendation. What I've read so far is jaw dropping. I'm thankful for him making me aware of it. The amount of unforgettable lessons that can be learned from looking back at these regimes cannot be understated
How many break ins u experience a day ? do u have the technology rights or $ to keep them out of yer home vandalizing and poisoning yer food ? are u a slave? by chance? Lmao!
That book can give you nightmares. Very poignant and disturbing, especially the parts we see staging here today.
I could recommend also read Kolyma Tales by Varlam Shalamov.
@@Boris_Belomor cool! thx! ...I will try, that's something I know I can really get into , I've tookin up interest in this a lot over the past 5yrs or so ? haha.
I'm sure this will be way ! better than Alexander's Gulag archipelago book series . Which I thought was anticlimactic / dull , personally even though nobody! agrees lol! ....., but on the contrary he was a legit hero for the record I think..., just not a good writer haha. Yeah sounds ! interesting, although I'll have to find a copy of the book, cuz it's hard for me to enjoy MOST audio books now when trying to enjoy classic literature nowadays something else this lifestyle has tookin from me😔.....
Lol , (dark humor laugh out loud btw).
You’re reading a work of fiction
Being in High School in the late 70s, I remember one of my teachers saying a perfect Communism and a perfect Democracy are ultimately the same thing. In my lifetime (especially in the most recent years), I have come to realize “ there in no such thing as a perfect man made government”.
What is a 'perfect democracy'? What is 'perfect communism?' --
Communism was my teachers words, not mine, so let’s substitute communism with socialism, I would imagine a perfect one of either one would mean all needs are met, all people contribute to the positive functioning of the government, all leaders only desire to work for the good of the people, not just their own ambitions. Basically “doing unto others as we would have done to ourselves”.
@@edcrane4438 A lot of my school teachers were morons too.
If you had perfect people with a perfect culture you wouldn't need any people at all. Government is supposed to exist to secure and preserve liberty by ensuring that those who exploit or harm others are punished, not to make life fair.
Demonocracy is just another form of communism.
The perfect system is the one which practices the Catholic faith given by God faithfully.
As a Latvian person whose grandpa spent 12 years in Gulags, I approve this message
Did you participate in the Baltic Chain?
А ты уточняла дорогая за что мог твой дедуля в гулаг загреметь???...наци...ам может помогал? Может в концлагере копеечку зарабатывал? Или может в празднуемыми вами на...их легионерах состоял??? Вариантов масса...намного вероятнее что он был с ними чем был невинным ягненком принесенным в жертву тоталитарному режиму и прочая бредятина...
@@terrychiasson5180 I wasn't born yet but my whole family did! 🤩
i hope he didn't spend 12 years in the gulags because he died, did he get out? if so, do you know how?
@@bigdiccmarty9335 after two years in gulags he was part of a riot and escaped. Together with his friend they walked and secretly hitchhiked trains for thousands of kilometres to their homeland. his friend got very weak and couldn’t continue, he asked my grandpa to shoot him so the communists wouldn’t get him alive. my grandpa couldn’t do it and left him in a hideout. after he got back he hid in his family’s potato basement for months, eventually got to Riga where an acquitance ratted him out to KGB and he was tortured and sent back to gulags where he spent 10 years. he was then pardoned and set free and returned home a broken man.
A Bengali from Indian state of West Bengal, I approve whatever said in this video is absolutely correct about communism. Bengal state suffered at hand of communism for 30 long years in a democratic country of India. Bengal state was destroyed by Bengali communist and today Southern state of Karnataka, capitalist state of Maharashtra and Right wing state of Gujrat are most prosperous state in India
what do you mean, destroyed? bengal is way more disgusting now under hooligans.
@@elnino114 : All of those "hooligans" who were in CPIM are now in TMC (and they will change their shirts once more if BJP or Congress comes to power). The main issue is that communists literally deindustrialized the most industrialized state in India using left wing union hooliganism. When a state is deliberately destroyed what else do you expect the end result to be except an increase in the capability of such a state to produce more hooligans ?
As a Croatian person who grew up in communism I approve of this message and of the Polish guy's message and the Romanian guy's message and the Lithuanian guy's message and the Vietnamese guy's message.
and all the post soviet states.
And you approve of run on sentences
There is one country that actually profited from communism. Croatia.
If it were not for communism, the territory of modern day Croatia would be twice as small, the territory of Serbia would be twice as large, and the Croatian genocide against the Serbs in the Second World War would be despised and condemned in the world just like the Holocaust! Croatian communist dictator Josip Broz Tito single-handedly prevented his homeland Croatia from sharing the fate of Germany after the war! For participating in the war on the side of Germany, for the Jasenovac concentration camp and welcoming Hitler with flowers in Zagreb, Croatia was rewarded with territorial expansion thanks to communism!
I agree with every word Jordan Peterson said, but the devastating effects of communism in Yugoslavia were felt on Serbian skin.
@@nikolaivanovic3163 I'm afraid that's just Serbian propaganda you've been fed your entire life. Serbs and Yugoslavs massacred Croatian people by hundreds of thousand during and after WW2. That was true genocyde if ever there was one. Just compare number of Serbs living in socalled Yugoslavia before and after WW2. You'll see that Serbian population grew larger in those times. Then compare number of Croatians before and after WW2. Simple math will tell you who suffered genocyde. Everything else is just lies you've been fed. And really, you guys have no business talking about Holocaust, with Serbia being the first and only country in the fourties to boast its being "Jew-free" to Hitler. Really.
@@LukaMagda1 That's exactly what I'm talking about. Without Communism you would never have written such nonsense while at the same time Jewish historians like Gideon Greif in the middle of Israel are publishing books like Jasenovac Aushwitz of the Balkans.
On March 27, 1941, the Serbs rose up against Hitler when Great Britain had no allies from London to Cairo! After that, the Germans BOMBED and OCCUPIED Serbia. On the other hand, on April 10, 1941, the Croats WELCOMED Hitler with flowers in Zagreb proclaiming the Independent State of Croatia, Hitler's greatest ally!
No time should be spent on explaining the anti-Serb pro-Croat character of the Yugoslav communists. Anyone who knows how to read the decisions of the Communist Party of Yugoslavia from the 4th Congress in Dresden in 1928 will come to the same conclusion.
And you should really be comparing lists instead of rote talking. Before the war, Serbs made up 60% of the population of Yugoslavia... After the Croatian genocide and communist occupation, there were 36% of us... 36%!?
My parents escaped Hungary in '56 to Austria. Both were on the BLACK list & if found would have been shot or gulag bound to starve/die there. My siblings and I were born American Citizens and love this country dearly... May the end of the Monster called communism be soon
Greetings from Hungary, friend. I know a lot of people fled then, some of my relatives went to Australia. The revolution was of course suppressed and it was declared a "counter-revolution" later on. My grandpa was there in Budapest as a young man, took photos from the rooftop (sadly the photos got damaged and became unusable). He saw young people die that day.
After the Soviet Union had collapsed, the day of Revolution became a national holiday and it's celebrated all over the country every year, as one of our biggest holidays.
Communism will not die until moral systems that are based on Altruism (which is self-destruction for the sake of self-destruction, that's what it literally is) are examined and replaced by something objectively pro-human life and individualistic.
Democracy is about to change into it though.
@@thenonexistinghero Democracy is a fancy way of saying Mob Rule.
@@equaltoreality8028 Depends on the execution. And none of the existing democracies even are ruled by mobs.
Some really dont grasp the magnitude of Dr Petersons excellence, He is a living legend
DM youre on all of his videos even though you hate him . Jesus grow up and get a life.
Agreed, he’s made my life a better place to be, brilliant man.
I think we do and appreciate all his work but, He never attacks the System, just the people that got it wrong. Would love to see him stealman this topic.
@@DM-dk7js Youv'e refuted nothing, lol. Get off your high horse.
Peterson is appreciated for the magnitude of his ego and his posturing.
Scholars differ on the immensity of the magnitude of each. A good reference is an article called " the intellectual we deserve".
I am seriously worried about your finances as well as your particular journey if you think Pete is anything excellent let alone a legend.
As an Indian, I remember how the maoists tried to overthrow the government through an arms struggle
So you die from hunger while China is dominating. Good job.
I am from Cuba and it really gets me mad when some uneducated person says to me that they want “Free Stuff from the government” they have no idea how destructive “Free” is. Nothing is free. I believe if you do not work you should not eat. Sounds hard it is still better than the communist alternative.
As someone who’s had a few conversations with Cubans, while on vacation, thank you for saying this :)
How about the working class who had jobs and services cut because wall Street had to be bailed out, socialism for the rich it seemed like there, should those individuals who lost their jobs(specifically in industrial towns and cities of the US) do without food because they got put out of work?
@@C12341 Yeah exactly, even during the financial crash over 14 years ago, towns in the UK such as Preston had their councils budget cut by like 30% compared to London which barely saw any cuts...How much production is there in Preston compared to London? Not much at all, so the cuts there is just not necessary, its telling the bottom 80% "we all need to tighten our belts" when that's alright if we are wearing the same trousers, but we all know that just isn't the case.
We were also told that those austerity measures were needed to cut debt, but that just isn't the case as every European country that applied those same austerity policies actually had more debt years after the financial crisis than what they did when they first went into it? Why? Because of a lack of growth, Italy is a prime example, Italy returned a surplus for like 20 years, they balanced their books quite well actually, but their growth model was not great, they barely grew at all, because their economic model isn't an exporting economy such as Germany, the UK or even some countries in the east of Europe.
Check out professor Mark Blyth from Brown University, Rhode Island. He goes into detail with this.
@@dynamitecity9667 Wall street had to be bailed out because of a cancerous, destructive government mandate. The US government forced banks to lend money to people who couldn't afford to pay it back. That mandate caused a bubble. When that artificial bubble popped, it destroyed wealth.
@@dafunkmonster It destroyed wealth? During those years of recession, the richest weren't the most affected, it was those at the bottom who benefit from public programs the most, because those programs were being cut. It happened here in the UK as well. Banks were becoming greedy. Lending to someone who can't afford it is predatory behaviour.
Dr. Peterson, thank you for this excerpt of your lecture on communism. I started moving to the right politically in the 70s (my 20s) when I became frustrated with my friends who thought that everyone had to have the same, "correct," position on all political and moral issues. But I carried a question with me to this day, "Why would people blandly excuse the suffering, death, and destruction of human relationships that occur in communist countries while enthusiastically endorsing or even acting to help bring about communism in a country where it can be done 'right'?" Having since then completed a liberal arts B.A. with an emphasis in Russian and Soviet history, and developed friendships with a number of people who grew up and lived in communist countries, I continue to ask myself the same question but with a greater intensity. I always have suspected that people who endorse communism think that somehow they will be in a protected position (income, status) in a communist system; they do not understand there is no real protection for anyone in that system. Your comment about people thinking that if they were in charge of the system, the system would work is, I think, very insightful and helps me answer my long-standing question. Thank you for your thoughtful work! May God bless you and your family.
I agree with Dr Peterson that it doesn't matter where or when, it doesn't work. Evil men condone the evil that other men do.
Rom 1:25 For they exchanged the truth of God for falsehood, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
Rom 1:26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged natural relations for that which is contrary to nature,
Rom 1:27 and likewise the men, too, abandoned natural relations with women and burned in their desire toward one another, males with males committing shameful acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
Rom 1:28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a depraved mind, to do those things that are not proper,
Rom 1:29 people having been filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, and evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, and malice; they are gossips,
Rom 1:30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,
Rom 1:31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unfeeling, and unmerciful;
Rom 1:32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also approve of those who practice them.
You think that you are protected in liberal world? think again. Communism gives protection from the point of view of stability, where the state (should) provide education and work for everyone. thing is, it takes too much recources and the world is not ready.
It is pretty simple. People delude themselves into believing that they are "special" when, in fact, they are not. Everyone wants to be the ringleader of the circus and nobody wants to be the guy cleaning up the elephant poop. There is one ringleader and there is a 99.9% chance that you will be the guy cleaning up poop. All these Communist professors that praise the virtues of Communism and brainwash impressionable kids into good little Communists fail to see that in nearly every Communist revolution the first people rounded up and shot in the street are the "intellectuals". If you ask them they all will say that they will be the one guy who worms their way into the inner circle while all the rest of their colleagues are put in a ditch. They won't. They are useful idiots.
I believe that it is because they are blinded by sin. They've rejected God, and as such will cling to lies and reject the truth. Until they actually suffer themselves, their eyes won't open, and even then may not.
Hello sir, im actually a mathemathian but pretty interested on how communism governs behaves. Actually read that u complete some carrer with metion on that part of our history of human kind. Would u help me with some references an books of that? Anyone would be accepted
Thank you!
You are one of the most important voices of anti-communism. There were South Koreans who lived in Cuba back then. Many left after they saw the same thing that happened in the North happening in the island.
Its so weird to see channel which has over 900 000 subscribers and still no verified mark.
Thank you
Dr. Peterson's lecture is a great intro to this subject. I also have to recommend James Lindsay's in-depth tracing of the historical threads from "woke-ism" (communism retooled for the 21st century) back to "classical marxism" and ultimately, to ancient Gnostic religion.
It goes to show why it's a mistake to try very hard to reason with communist agitators. Their words are devices to advance their agenda by way of language; they aren't looking to engage you per se. If you press hard you will get cynicism, relativism, redefinitions of words, misdirections to boogeymen, "real communism has never been tried," et cetera.
If they come to terms with the sum total of their tactics they cease to be communists. We can hope and pray they do but it's not very common.
Likewise, it only takes a small leap of faith to conclude communism is evil, systematized as much as it can be; and well-placed faith opens the door to understanding.
My neighbours are Latvian. My best friends and colleagues at work are Romanian and Hungarian….Jordan Peterson is the only speaker I have found that can do justice to the pain they have described to me during the many many hours of conversation about life in Eastern Europe. There is a callous cold strength instilled in them that was put there by their parents knowingly at the expense of their relationship. Jordan is the only person that can convey the social pain required to create conditions where that is normal. Bravo. It only makes me sad I never found myself being taught by someone with so much passion. Nihilism cost me my 20’s and it need not have.
Your friends are 80 years old?
I'm guessing your a Londoner
Latvia 💪
You have no idea what you are writing about. You have absolutely no idea what Socialism and Communism are. Go tell it to the Chinese, who are the world's first real economy today, and the Chinese today are the happiest people in the world. Your friends pis.ed in your ears in order to be closer to the americans, who might give them a "beautiful life." hahaha
Latvians are not Eastern European but Northern European
Communism and utopianism destroyed my home country of Cambodia. People from US, europe, japan, Please dont take the freedoms you have for granted!
All glory to Jesus
I can't see freedom in those countries, first off all, none of them can act beyond the will of the United States, and then, the media and the social platforms are controlled and used by the ruling minority, spreading the craziest ideologies through nonsensical agendas, and using the same tools to tyranise anybody else, and to hide the economical realities.
Cambodia, the same country which the West bombed into oblivion to defend their imperialism. Hmm...
@@stuartrodgers3783 Hare Krishna
The Vietnamese Communists liberated Cambodia from Pol Pot, who was backed by the CIA.
What they say is; "But real socialism just hadn't tried yet".
What they really mean is; "We haven't had our turn yet".
Hah, hah, hah, indeed!
Actually, socialism seeks to create communism. To be accurate, socialism was tried, but communism was never achieved. And yes, certain socialists haven't had their turn yet. China and Vietnam seems to be heading in the right direction. Let's see what comes out of it in the decades to come. Let's just hope NATO doesn't get their way with their Xinjiang and Taiwan fake narratives to hurt China's attempt at communism.
"True Socialism" is global socialism. If there is any way to escape from their totalitarian psychopathy then it's not "real socialism".
I think it was tried, and it failed, but it was already implemented so it cannot be undone so what happens is that it morphed into Stalinism, Marxism-Leninism, Maoism and every socialist ideology that killed hundreds of millions of people
As a Russian person and living in States now, who grew up in communist regime, I approve this message. And wanna warn Americans people, with democrats we are not walking to the communism, we are running to that regime.
So true. Every word. Thank you.
I wish the democrats were communists. What exactly have they done to enforce communism? In what way now is the USA like the Soviet Union was? The Soviet Union was a great friendship of people's and co-operation against global capitalists vying to exploit every last resource. The USA is the opposite. I get offended that you would call the democrats communists, they are more like right wing fascists.
Anthony Smith, a very russian name indeed. Confusing democrats with communism shows me that you are a tremendous liar.
doubt that; sounds like your lying. what year were you born?
Where do people get this notion that democrats want to lead us to a communist dystopian. It’s actually the opposite. The democrats serve the Zionist globalist who just wants to use the people as cattle for capitalist exploitation. They are milking you people of your livelihood so you can forever be a consumer.
I’m from mainland China. From my experience after so many years of growing up there, I’d say the war started by Hitler could destroy everything you can see, the lives, the historical buildings, the cities, while a communist regime could destroy something you could not see. It’s never something about the buildings, which they can looks great, nor the material good, but the culture, the belief, the spirit, what is true and the hope of people in a conniving way. Read George Owell, he explains it really well.
it destroys the soul of the people
Mao tried to destroy the bourgeois and capitalist spirit from the kuomintang Republic in the cultural revolution I believe
@@vistor5376
He only succeeded in killing China.
What the fuck kind of nonsense are you saying lol
People know that communism is wrong but they stay silent, because they fear the consequences and after two or three generations their offsprings don't remember their true culture anymore.. they think that their grandparents are slowly losing their wits, when they finally tell the truth at old age - when they don't think that they have anything to lose anymore.
It's very sad.
Thank you Jordan for speaking out against this. I hate Communism with every fiber of my being.
I too, ideology that killed most humans in the world.
For my legionaries. Good book
@@KingPyrrhus Indeed, it was a brilliant book, and Codreanu was like a Jesus against Communism, and I love him for that.
Are you homosexual?
@JC Miller powerful
I think it boils down to blindspots in western historical consciousness since there is no similar trauma of communism (in west Europe and U.S etc)
In my opinion, it was academic navel gazing. "Intellectuals" fell in love with their words and made excuses for Communism, while at the same time, taking in hundreds of thousands of refugees from Communist countries and disregarding their experiences as "uneducated and inaccurate".
Its definitely blind spots. Westerners have no real concept of communism. Most to this day do not understand that woke movement is Marxism with only difference with how oppressors and oppressed are defined ( class oppression is replaced by identity oppression )
They have no idea what their core beliefs are and what is natural conclusion of said beliefs.
Well said
At some point we have to admit that the blind spots are manufactured. Its really hard to indoctrinate Marxism into children and Universities if you are teaching about the atrocities that it created.
Europe is headed in that direction again.
As an american, of the people I have met or heard that grew up in a communist system, i have never ONCE heard them voice support for it. I have only ever heard it's horrors. I trust the people that lived it rather than whatever I could possibly read on the subject. Especially when it's people I actually know.
I go to a certain group of meetings regularly. I know of a Russian kid that grew up here his whole life. One day the subject came up and without going in to to much detail, he told me all the horrors his parents and grandparents had told him that they went through,and essentially why they left. He seemed very much grateful to grow up an american. That tells me all I need to hear. No one is paying that boy to tell me those things lol. Nope,that's genuinely life lived experience from his parents passed to him. And when I hear stories like that, time,and time, and time again from all different people that grew up in different communist states and hear how similar they all sound, I know I'm not being lied to. They wouldn't have left if it were river's of milk and honey.
Correct. The only people who are for Socialism, are those who have read a wiki article about it on social media.
About: "pouring money into Cuba" from the USSR, the money went mostly in weapons and oil. The biggest chunk of it never remained in Cuba, instead it was used to promote socialist revolutions in Latin America and Africa (Salvador, Peru, Congo, Angola, Nicaragua, Ethiopia and so on). The USSR would provide the means and Cuba the canyon meat.
Everything said here is totally true. I was born in eastern Europe, Romania under the communist regime. Most western people can't imagine the horrors, the killings , the disappearances .It was a constant feeling of fear, hunger and despair. There was a continuous shortage of everything including basic food and electricity or hot water. The power blackouts were something so normal and sometimes they could last many hours ,several times a day. The queues were huge and usually people used to wait days and nights in a row, during harsh winters at minus 20Celsius , freezing in the snow , hoping to get some milk ,an orange or some piece of meat.
What of the story before his capture and execution that Ceausescu and his forces had killed 30-40k people? Was that not VOA propaganda? A fabrication? How often did these killings and disappearances occur? Did you know these also took place in Chile and Argentina and other places that were not and have never been communist? Have you ever lived in a third world country where people are constantly hungry and don't have access to water, food or electricity? Or do you only look to first world nations when evaluating your hardship?
Totally true.
@@googlesucks662true that, the rumours during those chaotic days were of many thousands of people killed during that 'revolution'. Actually, 'only' 1200 people were killed.
On the other hand, those ruling 'third world countries' don't plummet you with propaganda that you are or you are on the path of living in the best society ever possible.
You are talking exactly, that is almost verbatim to the propaganda that I and many others have been exposed to for years.
Wake up. Communism (fascism also, as they are closely related) is an utopia conceived by idealistic and potentially violent people that manages to convince naive people of its potential value. Reality and history proved it's not working.
+1 to the OG. Been there, lived that.
@@mirceaar7988 The 1200 figure still seems inflated and most of the killings were committed by those who overthrew the government. Communism and fascism are not similar, not at all. Fascism is a lot closer to the hierarchical system that lies about its nature and claims to be representative and democratic and has a perpetual elite perpetually orchestrating wars in foreign lands. I am glad you think "your" Soros and NED financed color revolution is working out for you and the majority of your countrymen but remember, capitalist states have great depressions and start and engage in world wars. No "communist" nation has started a world war.
@@mirceaar7988 Wakeup. Communism has worked for centuries in various religious sects and it is working exceedingly well in China and Vietnam. What isn't working are the hierarchically structured oligarchies that claim to be "liberal democracies". Tent cities and homeless every where, militarized police, most people in debt bondage and big surveillance tech passing itself off as social being owned by the same companies and people that own the military industrial complex/war machine.
Communism is not about everyone having something. It's about no one having anything. No risk, no reward, no reason...no reality.
I agree. it's also about hatred for those that have more
Reality is not really tied to materialistic expectations, or selfish expectations, those concepts are western specific. Community thinking is different, you own as a community, you risk as a community and get rewarded as a community, you celebrate or fail all together, and many traditions are fine with that. If it doesn't work for the west, it does certainly work for the east, just because they have different traditions backed by a much different history.
It's not about nobody having anything but about most having the bare minimum while a few have everything.
The party leaders have everything.
So is the capitalism, eh? Living on the minimum wage is not a slavery, it is a free market smh
As a Croat born in Yugoslavia, I see that "democracy" brought the decline of agriculture, the disappearance of companies, corruption, drugs, the dominance of manipulators, ...
Yes, but the majority are Serbs.
wut?@@redtobertshateshandles
So Serbs runs Croatia even today, after all that wars? Amazing!@@redtobertshateshandles
I was born in Armenia in 1997, a few years after the fall of the Soviet Union. My parents and most of my family moved to Canada by the end of the 90's but had lived their whole lives in the Soviet Union. The main reason for my family's departure was a lack of work, food and just the minimal needs to survive. What intrigues me the most, and I'm not here to compare the communist party in China to the Soviet one, is that any person that I asked, who lived more than 20 years in the CCCP, all tell me that their lives were better during the Soviet Union, most probably not under Stalin for they were not alive yet but under different Premiers of the Soviet Unions. My point is, you should listen to people that lived in the Soviet Union and get their side ofnthe story for they lived during that time and they know how life was.
Nevertheless, keep on doing these amazing lecture Dr. Peterson 🤟
Communism has to build walls to keep people in. Capitalism has to build walls to keep people out.
“When fascism comes to America, it will not be in brown and black shirts. It will not be with jack-boots. It will be Nike sneakers and smiley shirts.” ~George Carlin
The democrats are trying right now, common core is hitler youth, they are trying to enlist all the criminals in the inner cities to be their slaves
Привет! Only few people will understand that this is fascism, everyone will take it for the "second coming of Christ" and will meet it with applause.
@@ФаэтонНагваль Hitler created the largest union in Europe and sold income equality so he could steal all the money from the rich he made sure all the poor had jobs and health care so he could have a bigger army get his men killed. Really people don't understand if the government is doing a lot for you they will end up getting you killed
He was right. Nike sneakers, smiley shirts, and black bloc.
@@Sooner-im9qf Fascism is outright Satanism at its new stage of development (according to Hegel).
As a Venezuelan person it is my turn to approve this message. We are the nation with the bigest migrant outflow and we are not in war. But we are in comunism
You are not the nation with the biggest migrant outflow. Far from it.
@@googlesucks662 Ok then lets say there is a massive amount a citizens litteraly walking away from their homes and I suppose you know the reason. Now please tell me which nation in peace has biger migrant outflow?
@@eleffrang5759 You are not a nation in peace. The US and its European lackeys declared economic war on Venezuela years ago. England illegally holds your gold. Perhaps you mean which country that is not in hot war, civil war, or plagued with death squads, guerrilla war and assassinations (like Colombia)? If that is what you mean, please let me know and I will see if there are indeed any worse countries. Right now I would expect the Philippines, Malaysia, a few countries in Africa and closer to home for you, Honduras and Guatemala, would still beat you out.
@@googlesucks662 Your information seems compromised. We thank god England holds Venezuelan peoples gold and dosent deliver it to maduro the drug dealer dictator or his secret ally and supposed opposition leader juan guaido. As for Colombia you will need to dig deeper. Close to 8 million people have fled venezuela
@@eleffrang5759My information is bang on. Yours? 8 million seems highly inflated. Has Venezuela seen the civil war and death squads Colombia has? I would also like an answer to the question in my previous reply. I find it difficult to fathom how any citizen of a country could approve of a foreign country illegally (under international law) seizing it's gold reserves unless it's government was so perverse as to be engaging in genocide against one of its ethnic, or linguistic minorities. Also, Guido is a puppet of the US, a creation of the state department, and hardly in some grand conspiracy with the Maduro government.
I agree with Peterson completely he is never failing, time again and again he liberates sanity. Thank God for Peterson.
I love blaming the Cold War on the Soviets. Totally wasn't the Allies who pushed in on the SU which led to the formation of East Germany and Warsaw Pact
@@niotikk Nobody talks about Cold War, Communism its an utopia that will never happen and thats the truth. You cant expect different results doing the same path that led to tens of millions of deaths, thats straight insanity.
This needs to be heard by all psych students/grads!! It is crazy how students are taught quotes from the collaborators of communism (e.g. Marx) yet aren't taught about their history, nor of the consequences of what their communist ideas lead to! Psych was one of my majors *cries* and one of my professors just made us memorise Nietche's "God is dead and we have killed him" quote without any context or elaboration as to what conclusion such a position led to (which was nihilism or totalitarianism as JP said)... if i remember correctly she used the quote to support how we are in a much freer post-modern society. Madness. Unis (maybe more so social sciences) are creating walking zombies rather than comprehensive thinkers.
BUT, am so grateful to have this teaching available! May more students see it.
Don't worry. I scoff at those communist/heavy socialist kids who think their utopia can exist. They preach about "fairness" and eating the rich as they sip their $8 coffees fucking around on their $1,000+ laptops. It's cute.
As my Cambodian friend says. Come to Cambodia in the 80s and tell me how much u love communism
One small correction, it leads to nihilism which then inspires totalitarianism. Nihilism is chaos without the structure and responsibility (of Christianity in this case) to provide security, predictability and order. This chaos is then compensated with an equally intense degree of order. But I wonder why does that lead to death? And why do people no longer support Christianity (besides the Literalist insistence that the stories are historically true).
@@tristanbaker8198 Small but important - fair enough and thanks for the correction.
Pretty big questions there haha. I know the absolute basics but by no means knowledgeable. But, i would suppose that in the process of a nation swinging from nihilistic to high order the conditions are just right for someone who is persuasive, dominant, power hungry to be chosen. And people are welcoming of this because, perhaps, it is in our DNA to desire someone/thing above us (security, guidance, order). And perhaps when you have gone from one side of the pendulum you are welcoming of the complete opposite (e.g. alcoholics overcome addiction by going cold turkey...?).
It leads to death because the rulers are power hungry and prideful . Once they have gained a certain level they will not give it up, even if that means your people starving because of the structure you have chosen to govern your country (and of course they won't admit the structure i.e. commusim, doesn't work.. it keeps the people in a weakened position which thus keeps them elevated/in power).
Now your last question... lol... not sure i can answer via youtube comment haha
Judging an idea by its misapplication would lead one to dismiss Christianity just as you suggest we should dismiss communism.
Actually, thinking about it, communism has a key tenet which it shares with Christianity: "To each according to their need, from each according to their capacity".
Communism insofar as it can be reduced to this tenet would effectively amount to applied Christianity, reduced to Christ's core teaching.
I've rarely seen a western intellectual expressing so clear what we, the millions who lived or live still under communism , have endure. Do not take one word off, he is not exaggerating. It is how he says.
The theory of communism is just legal stealing. That’s it.
Wether he knows it or not, Peterson, made the same points that Fulton J. Sheen said in a televised speech at least 50 years prior. They agreed that Fyodor Dostoevsky’s book Demons a.k.a. The Possessed foretold what would occur in Russia in less than 40 years of his death.
Peterson has no clue on what communism is The Definition of a Soviet:
A soviet is a system of councils that report to an apex council and implement a predetermined outcome, often by consensus, affecting a region or neighborhood.
Members of a soviet council are chosen by virtue of their willingness to comply with that outcome and their one-mindedness with the group
Soviets are the operating mechanism of a government-controlled economy, whether it be socialism or government-corporate ("public-private") partnerships
Change agents are working with opportunists and other foolish people by coordinating government, business, NGO, and "non-profit" partners to implement a soviet system in your county, too.
In 1980 Ronald Reagan became the American president. This presidency is commonly referred to as the Reagan Revolution. During these years, under the complete control of the Neo-
conservatives, the economic, political and social environment was prepared to bring back into existence worker control of the means of production.
These Neo-conservatives were successful in converting Socialist rhetoric into a Conservative-newspeak.
The economic, political and social reforms of the Reagan Revolution made possible a most necessary evolutionary step for Capitalism, the creation of the basics for a fully functional self-regulating society.
What was once termed as a Soviet work council is now known as
Self-directed Work Team,
Natural Work Group,
Employee Involvement Team or
Total Production Management.
These are the basic building blocks of Socialism.
@@raycogo3302 so you have a clue, isn't it?
@@OM-df9lj yes i do unlike many Americans today and others
@@raycogo3302 could be, but, please, dislike communism more! I know what communism is from inside. Thanks God, it's over in this part of the world!
@@OM-df9lj user...now why would i want production = consumption and a self regulating classless society? you know why top Marxist (not the idiots that follow them )why they call capitalist "useful idiots"because capitalist are creating what they hate...by trying to perfect capitalism they are creating the system they want to avoid.
Appreciate Dr.Peterson , After this clip, I totally realized the dialogues in fight club makes so much sense “ we are the middle children of history no place or purpose, our only war is spiritual war, our only depression is our lives “ modern society constantly tries to define , give a name and look for validation name it religion, political theories, spirituality, meaning of life, travel, pursuit of truth we zig zag into diff world views because there’s nothing important to accomplish than to destroy the accomplishments made by prior humans
It is very true. I am from India. In 1962, during the disastrous end of Mao's great leap forward, the party had turned against him, and so had the people, so in order to unite the people, Mao started a war against India and occupied a huge chunk of land, also thanks to the kleptocratic regime of crypto communists India was under, and not only that, communists from India declared their support for China, stating that China's leader was their leader and that China's fate was their fate. A similar situation arose in 2020, when China was facing a famine, and it dared to have a skirmish with India, that ended in a fiasco for them though.
Proof please.
i didn't know that bit of Indias recent history as to why Moa started these attacks and to have Indian leaders support him . But then many Indian students were educated in Moscow wasn't it . Communists are still making huge inroads into India
Chao in Lee visited vidisha in 1961 to visit stupas at sanchi, given a slogan chini hindi Bhai Bhai. Soon after VK Krishn Menon order to produce coffee purculators in ordinance factories as china was perceived as friendly country by then Congress administration. Then came the attack and we found ourselves in situation that gun ratio was 1-5. Five soldier's one rifle. Thanks to America for air dropping winter clothing and ammunition. I recommend you to read Sutluj se Brahmaputra tak by Acharya chatursen.
Btw I was a card carrying member of CPI M and romanced communism for better part of my life. Even today a part of me tells that had it been Trotsky instead of Stalin the revolution would have been real. All collectivism leads to Totalitarian state. Btw so called capitalism and Free market system that is sold to us is oligarchy and leading in same direction. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
@@Vandal_Savage proof of what? The 50 or so Chinese soldiers killed in Galwan, that the ChinCom government does not say anything about, or the guy who faced interior travel restrictions because he photographed their graves?
As an Ethiopian, I remember my parents barely surviving the death squads of both the ruling marxist party under white terror and the lenninist/hoxaist assassins of the red terror. communism is a platform for the exercise of the worst human instincts under the banner of "Good". I once identified myself as a communist, but like bob dylan says, Im much younger than that now.
That depends on people in power, not the system. I grew up in Yugoslavia, and wouldnt change that country not for USA, but i wouldnt change it for Switzerland.
@@nyalarhotep yugoslavia was a case apart since all the other states literally killed people and that none capitalist state did if it wasn't a authoritarian state
@@Nightmare-go7kf Do you know how many communists were murdered, imprisoned, assassinated in USA during Edgar J Hoover? Dont think you are not authoritarian just because you eliminated opposition fast. There is only one political option allowed in USA, just as it was in any other communist or authoritarian state.
@@Nightmare-go7kfthen why is there still poverty? it has been proven multiple times that the world has enough resources to lift everyone out of poverty
when socialism basically eradicated homelessness, capitalism is supporting homelessness so that the rich can profit
As a Cuban growing up in Cuba and the stories my dad told me I approve this message
What stories? What do you know about the Batista regime?
@@eliashardy9528 He is maybe Cuban, but Cuban from Miami.
@@nyalarhotep I was in Cuba. Have you been there? I was in Cuba in order to smell and feel again what communism is after it dissapeared in my country. When I returned home I was feeling so much better. It was like, if one would be in prison for a while and become a free man, he would like to visit prison again to feel better like a free human...
@@OM-df9lj Where are you from? What is your country?
@@nyalarhotep RO
My grandfather was born in 1924. I asked him how he lived under Stalin. He said it was better than it is now (1990s).
How was it better under stalin with 9 million people perishing in the gulags and over 27 millions perishing in the Siberia concentration camps. Go learn before coming to write laughable foolishness that only betrays your ignorance and stupidity together with that of your grandfather, who apparently was one of the criminals who perpetrated a lot of crimes against innocent people just to survive. How pathetic
what class was your father?
@@Blight-eo4yk From the peasants.=) Mostly military (Ukrainian by nationality). The family served under the tsar, then under the Soviet government.
*Now, go ask the millions of "grandfathers" that were sent to the Stalin's Gulags in Siberia the same question. Oh wait -- over 90% died.* Your grandfather had a great sense of humor.... lmao 🤣🤣🤣
@@PhuckYourExistence You know better. You weren't born in the USSR, you didn't communicate with people of that time or relatives. You haven't studied the documents that are in the public domain. Trillions of ruined souls in the Gulag personally by Stalin. Hating Russians is certainly fun, but being dumb is no longer funny.
Thank you, Jordan for being a beacon of light in this world gone crazy!
Haha you must be as bat shit crazy as Jordan if you think he’s “sane”
Jordan went on an all meat diet and had a break down right?
Karl Marx was a devil worshiper and hated God. He grew up Jewish so he knew the basics of the tenets of Judaism but he vehemently hated them. When a person understands that about Marx and his "ideas" then it all makes sense why Marxism in any flavor is violent, oppressive and flat dark evil.
There's recent book titled something like "The devil and Marx" or very close. There's also some interviews on TH-cam with the author. The pieces all come together in a terrible reality what Marxism is at the core.
He thinks he knows everything. He knows shit abt china
It’s absolutely ridiculous that there are still so many people sympathetic to the idea some variation of communism. Even if there weren’t numerous examples of where this ultimately goes, common sense observations about life and human nature should tell the simplest observer what will happen.
Kinda like capitalism.
@@noname-bu1ux - Sure…freedom bad.
Exactly. You guys talk like the option is good hahahaa. People die because of hungry every years. And its counting millions.
@@noname-bu1ux No, foool, the richest countries in the world are all capitalist and the capitalist countries in the world are all rich. Phool.
When you don’t have strong underlying morals and a clear purpose something perverted grabs hold of that void and distorts your perception of good and evil, suddenly you might find yourself fighting to *increase* government control over the people to the point of totalitarianism, all the the name of fair society free of the capitalist oppression. Quite literally fighting side by side with the devil in the name of a what you think is a greater good. Of course there’s only blood at the end of that road, but these days people don’t have the attention span necessary to find these truths by themselves, that’s why religion is existencial to civilization, it’s how people are imbued with moral values “by default” instead of having to read 50+ books on western philosophy, history and economics to arrive at the same conclusion
It used to be so easy to laugh at how ridiculous the “woke” people are. Now that we see how destructive and violent this ideology is, I can see it really needs to be crushed. We should still laugh though
Yes, but we need to start laughing in their faces instead of laughing behind their backs.
Ridicule is the best offense against the woke hence why they are trying to remove comedy.
Capitalism is the same as the communist slave state, well modern day capitalism, the behemoth it's morphed into, if you pay someone nothing and pay someone less than what they need to live, as has been established in America for along time, what is the difference? I'm sorry to say not enough of one, you lambast anything that's not capitalism, but capitalism is guilty of the same crimes.
@@jasonmckenzie2835I concur!
We must be careful not to turn into the thing, we're trying to destroy. Jordan, just said that, that kind of ideology(the kind leftists use) is motivated by hatred of certain concepts and not by any sort of love, which resulted in terrible destruction. If you want to remove extreme leftists from existence, your deed would be judged on the means, which you use. And, if you use their means and "crush" them, you wouldn't be better than them. You would just conform to their teachings.
I'm not saying that what the extreme left in the west is doing should be tolerated, but let's be concise, measured, wise and elegant in our responses, by looking deeply into what we're crushing. Because the truth is that the motto "facts don't care about your feelings" is like opening an egg with a sledgehammer, when it comes to cultured discussion. It would be better to say: "Stories change people's minds, facts often fail to do so, but facts affect the material condition of people".
*A lesson in Power* At 9 years old, I was chosen to be a camp counselor for a day, I refused. Then I was chosen to be Unit Director for the day (camp Boss). I accepted. Later that day, I got too bossy with the older guys that worked at the camp. They threaten to beat me up. So, I brought myself under control. That was my lesson about abusing power.
It has never worked and has led to millions of deaths and countless suffering and misery in this world.
China is the greatest economical model in the world right now and it is openly Marxist-Leninist.
Unlike rampant unchecked capitalism of course... 🙄
@@Vandal_Savage unchecked anything is usually bad. Capitalism has brought more people out of poverty than any other economic system though so…
@@Vandal_Savage indeed
@@Vandal_Savage care to elaborate?
Keep shouting the truth from the highest place, let the world be told what it dose not want to hear. "I've had enough, and I'm not going to take it anymore!"
“I’m a human being, goddamnit! My life has value!”
I was born in 1981 in communist Romania and lived in the communist regime until 1989 when we had the bloody revolution that saw the dictator Ceausescu killed literally on Christmas day. I was very young but I remember how bad it was. No heat in the apartments, no electricity - I was doing my homework at candle light, no food in the stores - people wood queue for hours and hours - myself included, to get whatever was available. But this was nothing compared to what my parents and uncles went through. I have 3 uncles who defected and escaped across the border and one refugee camp after another, they finally made it to Canada. Their story is literally unbelievable. It's like a movie - perhaps better than a movie because it's true. Then there's my dad who wanted to escape from communist Romania and even tried with a friend of his. They got caught on the border because a friend of his ratted them out from fear of persecution by the state police. They were thrown into prison and when my dad finally got released, I barely recognized him. Later he would tell me stories about how badly people were beaten up in prison - especially other ethnicities like Hungarians and Gypsies for trying to escape the country.The state police (the Securitate) was everywhere and people were terrified of talking even to their best friends or families out of fear of being informers.
When we had the revolution, everybody was out in the main square of my city and I remember this like it was yesterday when a man came out on the balcony of the city hall and announced that the tap water was poisoned. People were scrambling, running home to inform their kids and elderly not to drink the water. My mom grabbed me in her arms and said "Thank God you're with me!".
Crazy times! So yeah....communism: NO Thanks! I've had my share, young as I was.
I'm from Albania, a country where communism has been in one of its harshest forms and my parents have lived through that. Fortunately I wasn't, but even though it has been 32 years since the fall of communism, its shadows are present even today. Communism has injected into people the feeling of hatred towards each other, there's no trust between people and there is resentment in most of the people's hearts, when they see someone doing better than them. This has caused the democracy in our country to be brittle. The prime minister that is currently in power, has been in power for 9 years, and last year he won its third mandate, despite the fact that under his ruling our country has gone downhill. This fact shows nothing but the presence of communism mentality amongst the people. Snitching/spying programs like during communism are still present, and people fear to go against the government because they may get fired, their houses can get destroyed, their education can get denied, etc if their opposition is found out. There is no solidarity between people when something bad happens to someone, because everybody thinks "as long as it's not happening to me it's fine...". People are afraid to ask for their rights and i think they have developed some kind of masochism, because under iron-fist ruling they never complain but say that they deserve everything bad that happens.
All of these ideas prevail even nowadays and it makes me sad, that a country with so much potential is destroying itself as the result of a foolish doctrine such as communism. I'm ending this comment with a quote from an Albanian writer: Albania was created by God, saved by chance and killed by politicians. Cit. Faik Konica
Creating hatred, division and distrust are key tactics of the marxists wherever they are. In the US Cloward and Piven and Sol Alinsky wrote about these exact tactics and parented this current madness of woke and sjw activism. Global forces are sponsoring and nurturing it too.
I understand exactly what you're saying. We have a similar psychology playing out in other places. In south Africa, the Afrikaners have essentially embraced their fate to genocide and rationalize it with either white guilt or Christian defeatism. In America we have racial masochism for folks of European ancestry. You perfectly described the mental state of some of Eastern Europe. It sounds like a volunteer based, non governmental cultural program is needed similar to what the IRA did; creating independent support and trust building networks, they illegally taught the indigenous Gaelic language, created secret stash and safe houses for dissidents on the run, etc. Good luck, keep your mind and body strong man. Mother Europa currently weeps for her people's but it hasn't always been this way and won't always be this way.
Similar situation in Croatia too. Many people still want Yugoslavia back especially younger ones because they believe life was easier back then and that we are all "brothers", but they are not aware of the damage, both physical and especially mental that the Serbs (not all of them, but most) caused to my country. The whole nation is so absorbed with materialistic things from which they can earn money, everyone is so focused on the negative and other people's lives that it is nerve-wracking! The whole country is mostly old people and that is really bad because they always vote for the same people, and, you know, old people know best! Lol
I am so frustrated by all of that and thank God there are still like-minded people. I can only hope that the good will prevail.
Shqipe sa bukur dhe reale e ke përshkruar te lumtë! 👏
Fully approve! by an Albanian Patriot!
This also sound like Canada during Covid lockdown. I was snitched out of my job because I refuse to be 'properly vaccinated'. In Quebec we had extra bullying and intimidation on top of the federal gov's. Turdeau had been in power for years here too and it's all downhill with woke culture. He cannot even provide passports for his citizens. I've been waiting for my unemployment insurance for 3 months with no news yet.
My grandad always told me about the sadness of communism in China, the death of sparrows and crops, so many lives lost and devastated in poverty
I'm glad you listened. Far too many never hear the wisdom of thier own home let alone 'history'.
But what china is today is great
I think that famine is caused by stupidity. But I could be wrong. What was the cause of the famines in Ireland - under the British occupation? Christianity? What was the cause of the American dust bowl in the 1930s? Greed (monoculture), racism (refusing to adhere to the wisdom of George Washington Carver), Christianity, or stupidity?
@@mireyajones810 The potato famine was caused by a plant virus, but blamed on the British. 40 years later the insecticide cure was discovered. But in the Ukraine, the Soviet government under Stalin took all of the food out of the country to starve the farmers, purposely. He didn't want the people to have food because they were against his policies of collectivizing the farms. Their farms. 8 million people died because of this. The dust bowl was bad for the Oakies, but they weren't forced to stay there and starve.
@@tomgreene7942 blamed on the Brits because the Brits were shipping wheat, pork, fruit out of Ireland while millions starved to death...
My fathers great grandfather was a ‘podkulachnik’ in the land of Ukraine under USSR. He had vineyards, treated and sold horses, and was quite wealthy for the time. Soviets executed him and his brother. A newly made widow with her 3 sons were taken to the Gulag, where only the youngest survived and was able to return home now as an adult.
Communists took your lands, booohooo.... GOOD!
Down with capitalism death to the bourgeoisie
I work in a university and on entering a professors room, to do some maintenance, I noticed there was a poster of Mao proudly displayed on the wall. Frankly I was in shock as these professors were working with in the Law Department, 'dare I say it in the human rights department. I want to say something, 'but I am also terribly scared of what the outcome may be if I do so, but I do not want to be a coward either. If you was me How would you approach this?
Your university is probably being bribed with subsidies from the CCP
I'm from Bulgaria, a country that used to be communist. My parents grew up in communist times. It sounds horrible and nothing like what the libs are trying to make it out to be. I am truly grateful communism was abolished where I live and I hope it never returns.
it will return, in different coat, from different side of world ... it always returns, because there are still people, who have so much money for several their lives and are very bored. These people are behind revolutions. It is like weed in the garden. And because history is taught certain way, with deficiency of memory.
Communism is terrible and liberal wokeness is a joke.... but I wouldn't be too quick to get into a love affair with religious conservatives like Jordan. As bad as communism was it was practically utopia compared to the theocratic horror show of the middle ages that many conservative foolishly think western civilization is based on.
Do you think that it would have been ok once the system was allowed to grow and develop over time? I mean if capitalist countries hadnt declared full spectrum warfare on socialism and strangled its every chance at success..?
What do you think capitalism was like in the early stages?
Im from Australia, a 'capitalist' country, and funnily enough the things that most people appreciate (or miss) the most about our society are the socialistic elements like free healthcare, education etc.. since some of our critical infrastructure has been privatised people here have had nothing but problems and insane cost of living increases.. we hate it now!
@@shawnduddridge Unfortunately no. For 3 reasons.
1.The problem was in the system as I will display in number 2, but it was also in the government as well. You had to bribe doctors in order to get better medical health. And while the "common folk" were working, the politicians were still making more money. So, there was still a divide between the poor and the wealthy.
2.Everything you owned beloved to the government and everyone had the exact same salary. That means that you could be working the exact same job as your co-worker who is slacking off and putting the bare minimum and still get the same pay. And as for all the land being government property, people had no motivation to look after their properties because...well it doesn't belong to them. Actually, my grandmother told me that the government used to force the adults go work the field on Saturday, which was their day off work. I don't know if other countries used to have the same policy, but Bulgaria was like that.
3.Communism has been done differently in different countries and it just doesn't work.
This is of course my opinion.
@@chairific6794 Thanks for the thoughtful reply, yea sounds pretty crap to me.. but oddly more like capitalism than socialism. Sounds like quite a non democratic state where the ruling class lives a luxurious life off the backs of a huge working class, obviously something the people themselves would never choose. Also sounds a bit like a cultural problem with corruption already existed.
What i was saying i guess relates a lot more to socialism than communism, and quite a few countries that started off communist via revolution or what have you, ended up quite socialist states with great qualities of life. In fact many of the most successful countries with the happiest & healthiest people and very socialist orientated.
I think communism was an early and very perverted form of democratic socialism, created to appeal to the masses, but created almost as a sneaky trick by a capitalist mind. 😆
I was in town today in Lancaster England and this is God's honest truth. I saw a girl student with a small stall named the (Lancaster Marxist society). I couldn't believe what I was seeing, how are we allowing people to promote such radical ideologies which are so dangerous??
they are all over-that is what "wokeness" BLM/Antifa is all about -they are cultural Marxists
What's radical is having vast amounts of homeless people in the richest country ever, fighting wars and slaughtering people for the profit of corporations, vast joblessness, poverty, and starvation, a wealth inequality so egregious that one person cane effectively own the same wealth as millions, a police state that locks up more people per capita by far then the rest of the world, mass shootings damn near everyday, where the average citizen has little to no impact on the political process, a healthcare system run for profit rather then to help people, where a 250 year old piece of paper dictates what happens in the 21 century. All in the "greatest" country in the world.😒 Yeah that's America, not Russia, not Cuba, not Venezuela, the failed empire of the USA.
@@dreadtrain2846 If it's freedom to go into medical debt at the slightest medical procedure, freedom to live on the streets when you can't afford a home, freedom to be a wage slave or run a wage slave company. What freedom is their when 99% of the population has to work or die and has no say in how the business they work for is managed or run or anything. Freedom to be oppressive by a 1% capitalist class who propagandize the population so they can make profits off others labor nah. That's not freedom. Capitalism doesn't equal freedom.
@@dreadtrain2846 I think the problem is that installation of a communist gov ultimately limits freedom and does that, usually be force.
Indeed, how?
It’s already illegal to be a communist in the US and to associate with them or their organizations.
The issue is lack of enforcement due to communist subversion.
When the police chief is a useful idiot who has purged his force of free-thinkers through convenient excuses like “vaccine mandates,” there is no way he will crack down on his fellow communists.
It's so sad. I'm a Veteran an was seeing a Psychiatrist at the VA. A different one every month due to turn over rate. My life has been hell having no relationship with one Dr. Having to relive my hell monthly telling my horror story repeatedly. I wish I had you Jordan.
Veteran of which illegal US war?
@@JohnDoe-yq9rt I was going to write something out to explain to you how horrible and narcissistic your comment is, but you managed to write something so vile after watching the last 20 seconds of this video so I just decided you need to be told you're an absolute piece of shit.
I’m wishing you the very best in your search, and though it’s so easy to say, will keep you in my prayers.
@@JohnDoe-yq9rt does it matter? we enjoyed four years of no new wars recently but the "establishment" could not STAND that.
and this time WW3 is in the plan. The elites must stay the elites. War is good for their enrichment. Seeing a US POTUS check his watch as 13 of our best passed by in their coffins all for a photo op for him "ending the war" leaving thousands behind, and people falling of of planes, cemented that.
U could try a friend that listens... Usually friends tend to stick around longer than a few months ..
“He who withholds grain, the people will curse him, but blessing will be on the head of him who sells it.” -Proverbs 11:26
Jordan peterson is talking about the Book called Demons/The possessed by Dostoyevsky its known as one of his best 4 novel. The character he was talking about was Nikolay Stavrogin OR Pyotr Verkhovensky man this book gave me depression it was boring at first but then it kind of takes time to get going but its very intense after it gets going. Im happy he mentions this
There is nothing good about Dostoyevsky. He was a truly disgusting person, a connoisseur of human suffering. Only people who are dwelling on mental illness (like psychologists and psychiatrists) find him facinating.
I think that's how every Dostoyevsky book is, I cried for 3 days after reading The Idiot, I haven't read Demons, but I'm adding it to my list.
@@solstice1681 Please do and just a tip: Dont expect it to be filled with things like his other books. its very unique. Most often people read with an expectation and get disappointed if they arent met
@@solstice1681 am I inhuman if the idiot barely affected me?
Bravo, Mr. Peterson. It is truly alarming how the population in the US has gone from having a clear understanding of both the practical flaws and historical crimes of communism to being essentially one step away from completely embracing and demanding it. It is truly upsetting and frightening.
@@shroomsrus5116 And Canada! Astonishing.
And that’s thanks to the horrors and ruin of capitalism, just because people were brainwashed before
@@mat3828 The "horrors and ruin" of capitalism lifted more people out of absolute poverty faster than any other system. Unless i'm missing some form of govt that wildly succeeded but has been hidden from view. Dont tell me, let me guess....socialism, rite?
The relapse is unacceptable. A line in the sand has to be drawn about the ethics of marxism.
The US is far, far closer to Fascism than Communism. It would be a marvel to me if you could even define Communism, much less actually point out the Socialist aspects of US society. And no, "government control" and "totalitarianism" don't count as they are meaningless buzzwords that describe every single economic system outside of mad max Libertarianism.
I used to play a computer game called Civ 4 all the time. Loved it! You get to pick historical leaders of past and current civilizations. Then attempt to advance your civilization through history to achieve different victories. The game play is not the point though. I once saw someone play as Stalin for the Russian civilization. I remember saying "Holy shit! Is Hitler in the game too!?" Nope. No Hitler, but Mao of China was also in the roster! How choosy we are when including some of the worst human beings to ever slither across our planet.
It should've included Churchill, FDR, and Truman.
Civ 4 was the fucking best . I like it more then 6
Man this video should be translated or at least spanish subtitled so every person in LATAM could watch it and understand this evilness that communism is. Specially here in Cuba. God Bless You man.
I'll be talking about this subject in the third episode of my podcast which is in spanish... well spanglish. Come check us out. @Hashtag_Normies
Love this talk
@J J
I graduated from college in 2006 (B.A.), and I still have yet to figure out where I might land professionally.
No shit.
On the good side, this shit won't take long; but on the other, nothing yet has been settled & there's nowhere to find guidance.
The Yuri Bezmenov’s interviews and lectures are a must watch! 🙏🏼
@realDestroyer dont listen to that "J J Jerk" I wrote my Dr. dissertation on on The Missile Crisis Of October and it was accepted without issues. So keep going you are on the right track. P.S. I found the J.F.K, Library on line to be a great source of reference material. Best Wishes.
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@@omcara1 Thanks, Zona!
I bet your dissertation was AMAZING! Thank you for the pointers!
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It makes sense. I take this view for granted because of my older family members who speak stories to me about communist regime. It is good to talk about it so other people could imagine what it was like. The only sad thing in my mind is that europe nowadays is close to become another totalitarian regime. Not sure if it is heading towards communism but totalitarian for sure.. democracy as we knew it is on thin ice here in europe, but we didnt lose yet.
How is europe becoming more totalitarian?
As a Bulgarian who grew up behind the iron wall, i thank you for talking about it. It is scary how there is a process going on of rehabilitation of this monstrosity of a social order. People are forgetting what we dealt with and currently lament how great it was.
Probably you did not notice, but Iron Curtain exist nowadays as well.
Another Bulgarian here, and I join your opinion. The neomarxist tendencies in the west are being lounched by communist spies and/or western so called 'useful idiots' somewhere in the 70ties. They will destroy the western civilisation if not addressed. So, thank you, Dr Peterson, for your incredible job to explain this dengerous reality to the people.
@@edimi2454 👋👋
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe - Albert Einstein
As a Polish person please read the story of Mieczysław Jałowiecki, "Na skraju imperium" and "Free City" and others.
I'm scared for America as we know it. I hope my children don't have to suffer from communism. I want to fight for them, but I don't know how to start.
Start by sharing this video, perhaps..
This is the purpose of the 2nd Amendment.
You just did.
Liberty minded Westerners needn't assemble first.
Peterson would probably say to clean your room
JP is the most important academic in the world mainly because he has the courage to speak out.
May God bless him.
Yeh despite him getting millions of fans purely because of his dumb views, he is brave and courageous to speak out, really putting his head on the line
fools are the bravest
You must be an Elon Musk too fan huh?
On a flight across the USA, I met a retired US Diplomat, who was born and grew up in a communist country. She loves the USA and absolutely hates socialism (communist lite), and communisim itself. She considered herself most fortunate to have been able to come to the United States. I really enjoyed talking with her - a most energetic, wonderful individual.
Socialism - communism lite? Really!? Wow that's a very generalised view. I bet you find a whole lot of people of lower class( cast) in your wonderful "free world" that hates capitalism too. Especially those millions who are victims of your fantastic billionaire oligarchs like Musk, Besos, Gates and the rest of the elite. What's so wrong about trying to even out the grotesque differences. Why does anyone feel they need to afford a million meals a day when they know that has to mean others will starve to death? What is so wrong about trying to find a system that brings a more even distribution? What's so wrong about being social in a world of billions?
To have lived or be born under a tyrant’s autorité and his multifaceted death punishments such as Lénine,a deadly violent father (or mother), or ultra chemically disruptive life systems , or other world order weapons freaks , can create a new generation of more human people in need to repair and find equity and desire for life , ??? as the people in the communist East ??? The confrontations of East and West is in the need to have a sustainability way of life in each country !
As a polish hater of everything communist, this man is incredible. He is someone who will be cited in 300 years, and they will say well, thousands of people laughed at him bullied him, but he was the first one to understand IT. A man ahead of his time in his historical summaries.
I hope your brilliance and telling the truth can inspire people not only to reject communism but to fight agains it.