There's no hatred or anger in this brave gentleman's heart, i want him to hate and be angry, but I've never been in his position. But man, this hurts me a lot
@maril1379 of course, sarcastic. My comment would be deleted if I told the truth about this abomination of an ideology and its 7th-century illiterate founder. Spoiler alert: it involves an unspeakable act on a 9 year old girl.
Oman seem mild. 🤷♀️ I genuinely question whether many of these nations are able to produce anything other than sectarian tyrants. Sounds harsh, but…it is what it is.
@@GreenCanvasInteriorscapeyes he has and I acknowledge that but… still being in communication with your captors and the way he speaks about them doesn’t strike you as odd? I attribute it to a Stockholm syndrome of sorts… 🤷🏻♀️ my heart goes out to him
@@GreenCanvasInteriorscape This is what cults do to people, he knows what's happened to his own mind by it. In his own words he was psychologically transformed. He still talks to them; he's bonded to them in a way none of us could ever understand. It's twisted, it's completely twisted, but he knows that it is. We know that it is, and yet there is nothing that can be done about it. He sees himself in those young men, who were psychologically twisted by the same ideology from birth, that he was in captivity.
This is so revelatory on how children are raised in the Al-Qaeda cult it is not optional but to sumbit to the cult, and learn how to torture from age 6. Mossab Yousef son of the founder of Hamas in Gaza, has been through the same process as a child though doesn't expose it as explicity as Theo Padnos. Who survived deadly conditions in a Syrian prison. However, T Padnos still has the peculiarity to remain in contact with his torturers to glean information on how the regime is going to unfold in the Levant Region??? Is that the reason?. It would be very interesting for him to meet Mosab Hassan Yousef ex Hamas operative who was deprogrammed, worked for the Mossad, became a Christian and received refuge in the USA.
What he's describing is the Stockholm Syndrome where the person being tortured gains an appreciation for those who are torturing them as their caregivers. A real twist of sanity. They come to believe they deserve to be abused.
I feel like the interviewer was always interrupting him at just the point where he was going to say what I was interesting in finding out. I'm left feeling very frustrated.
Theo. I'm really astounded at your story. I get what you are talking about keeping in touch with the guys that held you. I understand your feelings and the idea of submitting to them as a prisoner. The interviewer is so perplexed and it amused me greatly.😂 Very interesting experience you have had.
Truly wild content in this interview. Thank you to mister Padnos for speaking about your experience and to Michael for the great work interviewing. The insights here are vital to beginning to understand Syria and its potential future.
This interview is wild and so fascinating. I am so sorry for this man’s suffering and all he has been through. What and how he was treated, their methods, need to concern the West.
This interview should be everywhere. Gosh the things he suffer led but the abuse they do the children is horrific because they not just get robbed of their childhood with horror but also transform them into entities of hate, could that be reversed? Gosh
I would expect it to take two generations of exposure to Western liberal education and lifestyle for these people to actually evolve from the medieval mindset/lifestyle they've been stuck in since the 1500s.
Why does it always needs to be good vs evil? Here is an example of a ruthless ruler replaced by jihadist militia. The ruler protected minorities at times but destabilise his neighbours. The militia showd they can try and be civil while also being ruthless. The world is not a disney movie.
I recently read that Stockholm Syndrome wasn't actually a real thing, but his evasive answers about his feelings toward his torturers are to me definite proof that it's very real. But man, I would have never survived what he survived.
I couldn't either. The thought is harrowing. It is Day 436 for the remaining hostages, if alive, wherever they may be and whomever may be holding them. Americans included. I think about them every day. Especially Kfir Bibas, the 8 month old (at the time). It is also long enough that the women we saw on the news being separated by who was able to procreate, to have gotten pregnant AND given birth. It's just awful to imagine. Just as the stories of the surgeries performed by veterinarians on the poor injured people who got out during the first wave and told us the stories of their time being held. It's all beyond comprehension. Listening to these stories makes me feel like he is speaking as it is an out of body experience for him. Maybe that is the only way he can cope.
So glad Vice imploded and laid off Moynihan. Excellent work here as usual. See, judgment, experience and connections get you good interviews. That's the difference between a real journalist and the breadtube amateurs (though I welcome their work too). Even though I don't love FP as a whole, they work with a bunch of great journalists.
Its probably hard for him to go into all this horrific details and its so far away from what we can imagine....the kids he is talking about inrolled in being torturers. all the terrorists grew up like that being beaten and seing beating as part of life . This man talks about this stuff and he knows there is no way to be like before and he keeps talking to this guys as a friend and knows there loneliness and that they never learned another way ...
This video was uploaded 6 hours ago but when was it recorded? This info is time-sensitive: the guest says "They are comporting themselves relatively decently at the moment." AT THE MOMENT. When was that moment? This why it would be good to start each podcast with the date and time.
please interview his cellmate Schrier. Shryer wrote a book called the Dawn prayer and from what it says padnos or really Curtis is a horrible cellmate.
No, you're not f*cked up... you're a very special person. Those people are confused. It's really sad that Human Nature allows itself to go that far; that they become so evil. I don't know how anyone can help them, but they're real people with real souls... and perhaps some of them can still change. Justice - if only it was fair & possible (considering our Yetzar Hara) - should heal, but it doesn't, sadly. And is it even possible? VERY few escape the psychological grip of such religions. Only when mosshiach comes & people see that YHVH is Gd!
if you've been tortured nearly to death and now you take calls from your oppressors because they're lonely sounds crazy, but isn't it kind of the ultimate victory over them? That you came out better than they did?
The religion of peace in action
I don't know if it's the cousin inter-marriage amongst them or lack of actual education but his jailers seem to be very stupid - as in low-IQ.
A brilliant interview. Thank you. And kindest wishes to Theo.
There's no hatred or anger in this brave gentleman's heart, i want him to hate and be angry, but I've never been in his position. But man, this hurts me a lot
An extremely profound interview.
Be sure to see the interview with another westerner who'd been trapped in Syria for years by the Triggernometry podcast guys, FF & KK.
Islam is such a beautiful religion of peace, tolerance, and inclusiveness.
Do you mean this or being sarcsstic?
Guessing sarcastic.
If so I agree with you.
@maril1379 of course, sarcastic. My comment would be deleted if I told the truth about this abomination of an ideology and its 7th-century illiterate founder. Spoiler alert: it involves an unspeakable act on a 9 year old girl.
WHATTTTT?
What an evil society
UK just gave £50 million to these extremists
Say it ain't so! Please!!
@@TTFN55 It absolutely is so, unfortunately.
UK has gone crazy
Labour Party is full of them.
I would speculate that the same cash flows have gone to Gaza and Iran and its clients
Terrible who in charge of Syria , same who did October 7 , 2023. Sorry to these who went through that torture
Resilience defined
Ein milim is Hebrew for no words
Toda raba
Is there anywhere in the Middle East that has a government that isn’t problematic 🤷♀️ (apart from Israel obviously)
There is no functioning Islamic country.
Oman seem mild. 🤷♀️
I genuinely question whether many of these nations are able to produce anything other than sectarian tyrants. Sounds harsh, but…it is what it is.
Israel government isn't problematic?! Do you see the news? The genocide? Wtf is wrong with you
Absolutely none
These people who said you're animal...they're even worst on what you're accused of.
This poor man is completely traumatized by torture. There’s something about the way speaks that sounds so profoundly psychologically twisted. So sad.
Odd take, he sounds like he's moved on and has coped, all that a human could ask for.
@@GreenCanvasInteriorscapeyes he has and I acknowledge that but… still being in communication with your captors and the way he speaks about them doesn’t strike you as odd? I attribute it to a Stockholm syndrome of sorts… 🤷🏻♀️ my heart goes out to him
@@GreenCanvasInteriorscape This is what cults do to people, he knows what's happened to his own mind by it.
In his own words he was psychologically transformed. He still talks to them; he's bonded to them in a way none of us could ever understand.
It's twisted, it's completely twisted, but he knows that it is. We know that it is, and yet there is nothing that can be done about it.
He sees himself in those young men, who were psychologically twisted by the same ideology from birth, that he was in captivity.
This is so revelatory on how children are raised in the Al-Qaeda cult it is not optional but to sumbit to the cult, and learn how to torture from age 6. Mossab Yousef son of the founder of Hamas in Gaza, has been through the same process as a child though doesn't expose it as explicity as Theo Padnos. Who survived deadly conditions in a Syrian prison. However, T Padnos still has the peculiarity to remain in contact with his torturers to glean information on how the regime is going to unfold in the Levant Region??? Is that the reason?. It would be very interesting for him to meet Mosab Hassan Yousef ex Hamas operative who was deprogrammed, worked for the Mossad, became a Christian and received refuge in the USA.
As I understand it the Levant is the Mideast with no Israel.
What he's describing is the Stockholm Syndrome where the person being tortured gains an appreciation for those who are torturing them as their caregivers. A real twist of sanity. They come to believe they deserve to be abused.
That's not "Stockholm syndrom " . It's the fear of things outside the "bubble" so you feel safer with the crimenal
How I wish you’d let the fellow speak…he had so much to say that you interrupted at key moments. Let’s get him on Jordan Peterson….and hear his story
Great interview.
I feel like the interviewer was always interrupting him at just the point where he was going to say what I was interesting in finding out. I'm left feeling very frustrated.
Why are these people this way
Unbelievable,excellent interview
Theo.
I'm really astounded at your story. I get what you are talking about keeping in touch with the guys that held you. I understand your feelings and the idea of submitting to them as a prisoner.
The interviewer is so perplexed and it amused me greatly.😂
Very interesting experience you have had.
Truly wild content in this interview. Thank you to mister Padnos for speaking about your experience and to Michael for the great work interviewing.
The insights here are vital to beginning to understand Syria and its potential future.
This interview is wild and so fascinating. I am so sorry for this man’s suffering and all he has been through. What and how he was treated, their methods, need to concern the West.
Amazing story! Thanks for sharing.
if this wasnt so tragic in the 21st century it would be comical
This interview should be everywhere. Gosh the things he suffer led but the abuse they do the children is horrific because they not just get robbed of their childhood with horror but also transform them into entities of hate, could that be reversed? Gosh
I would expect it to take two generations of exposure to Western liberal education and lifestyle for these people to actually evolve from the medieval mindset/lifestyle they've been stuck in since the 1500s.
@@TTFN55And sounds not hopeful, we need a mindset change in the whole world, many cultures, for the sake of the next generations.
Thank you for the amazing interviews you have been doing! Such an amazing job all of you at the Free Press!!
Wait, what??? "They've rebranded???" That's effed up!!
It is true, very hard to make any judgments if you have no idea what it means to be tortured.
Fascinating, absolutely fascinating
Why does it always needs to be good vs evil?
Here is an example of a ruthless ruler replaced by jihadist militia.
The ruler protected minorities at times but destabilise his neighbours.
The militia showd they can try and be civil while also being ruthless.
The world is not a disney movie.
This is closer to the truth than the mainstream media or Bluesky users would have you belive.
Lol
I'm sorry but it IS good vs. evil. You're right in that the Mideast isn't "Aladdin" Disney movie.
Most of the Middle East and Africa, it's evil vs evil.
The interviewer is awful. He does not sufficiently engage with what Theo says. He constantly interrupts. Very annyoing.
I recently read that Stockholm Syndrome wasn't actually a real thing, but his evasive answers about his feelings toward his torturers are to me definite proof that it's very real. But man, I would have never survived what he survived.
I couldn't either. The thought is harrowing. It is Day 436 for the remaining hostages, if alive, wherever they may be and whomever may be holding them. Americans included. I think about them every day. Especially Kfir Bibas, the 8 month old (at the time). It is also long enough that the women we saw on the news being separated by who was able to procreate, to have gotten pregnant AND given birth. It's just awful to imagine. Just as the stories of the surgeries performed by veterinarians on the poor injured people who got out during the first wave and told us the stories of their time being held. It's all beyond comprehension.
Listening to these stories makes me feel like he is speaking as it is an out of body experience for him. Maybe that is the only way he can cope.
Man! This is sad!
But very true
But true
An interview's quality is inversely related to the number of times the interviewer interrupts/talks over the interviewee.
More eloquently stated than what I call the hannity Jones Factor
This is a most stunning account!
Ok, this guy underwent severe, prolonged trauma/horror-he clearly still needs major therapy as he is chatting regularly with these guys??!
Poor soul
And the world is obsessed with Netanyahu
The syrian rebels are more of the same. Nothing will change...... more of the same
So glad Vice imploded and laid off Moynihan. Excellent work here as usual. See, judgment, experience and connections get you good interviews. That's the difference between a real journalist and the breadtube amateurs (though I welcome their work too). Even though I don't love FP as a whole, they work with a bunch of great journalists.
One of the most insightful interviews I've ever seen
Its probably hard for him to go into all this horrific details and its so far away from what we can imagine....the kids he is talking about inrolled in being torturers.
all the terrorists grew up like that being beaten and seing beating as part of life .
This man talks about this stuff and he knows there is no way to be like before and he keeps talking to this guys as a friend and knows there loneliness and that they never learned another way ...
Theo, you’re an inspiration
Oh my soul ...Theo...My all Thanksgiving go to Ha Shem...your life was spared...
Maybe finally the western
Media will cease with this ludicrous coverage of misrepresentation of the HTS
Most "western" governments do similar things in their prisons.
Be sure an see the Triggernometry interview with a Westerner who survived his life in Syria.
Islam is all about peace. What a ☪️ ancer we have in this world
This video was uploaded 6 hours ago but when was it recorded? This info is time-sensitive: the guest says "They are comporting themselves relatively decently at the moment." AT THE MOMENT. When was that moment? This why it would be good to start each podcast with the date and time.
Fascinating interview.
Excellent interview. Very eye opening. Thank you.
That was wild. Wow
29:09 maybe he hopes to change their hearts ?
please interview his cellmate Schrier. Shryer wrote a book called the Dawn prayer and from what it says padnos or really Curtis is a horrible cellmate.
The leader, al-Jolani, presents himself as a kind of Fidel Castro, defender of people.
No, you're not f*cked up... you're a very special person. Those people are confused. It's really sad that Human Nature allows itself to go that far; that they become so evil. I don't know how anyone can help them, but they're real people with real souls... and perhaps some of them can still change. Justice - if only it was fair & possible (considering our Yetzar Hara) - should heal, but it doesn't, sadly. And is it even possible? VERY few escape the psychological grip of such religions. Only when mosshiach comes & people see that YHVH is Gd!
Whoa
if you've been tortured nearly to death and now you take calls from your oppressors because they're lonely sounds crazy, but isn't it kind of the ultimate victory over them? That you came out better than they did?
An excellent example of moving on and coping, digesting the world as it comes to you and coming out alive and thriving
wow
Fantastic journalism. Hoping the guest gets therapy and/or a job in Intelligence.
This looks like Michael Moynihan is interviewing a version of himself from about 7 years into the future
Faith is such a wonderful part of my life and is easily my better nature, but my goodness, in the hands of fanatics it is such a powerful toxin.
The Free Press.....what a lying bunch.
🚫🤡
Sadly I think that those Muslims succeeded somehow to change his mind
He seems to have come out unscathed, moved on and has coped, hard to refute his experience and his lack of hate
Michael Moynihan is... not a good interviewer.
oops...deleted my comment again..hahahaha...i am getting used to it by now. However, it proofs I am on the path of truth!
I can rebrand myself as a guy, but I'm really a girl. Who is kidding who? 😅
USA /Uks new Zelenskyy is Joloni HTS
Im convinced he actually is CIA, because no way a normal person would still be in contact with their captors.
He's a journalist
Plot twist. He was released to serve as a spy for their organization.
it's like the plot line of homeland
First
Second? I don't know, third base.