It was actually called the "Red Nein", and the red nine was there to remind the German sergeants what they needed to yell at any privates trying to load 7.63.
Reminds me of the old joke about Project Apollo, that NASA called the Saturn V "four nines" reliable not because it had 99.99 percent parts reliability, but because they had asked their rocket scientists if total reliability was possible and von Braun and three of his assistants had all said "Nein."
I’m still blown away by reading different variations of Churchill’s actions in the Sudan and being armed with one of these and coming out alive while everyone else was getting killed due to them sticking to swords and lances while Churchill had the Mauser due to an injury
The makers of the 1972 film, The Young Winston , starring Simon Ward claimed to have found Churchill's C96 and used it in the film. Don't know what happened to it subsequently.
A note: While _Rittmeister_ does indeed literally mean "riding master", in the context of the Kaiser's army (and other Germanic and Nordic armies of the time), it was specifically a cavalry officer's rank, equivalent to the non-cavalry rank of _Hauptmann_ (captain).
This is also the reason why Manfred von Richthofen - The Red Baron - was promoted to the rank of Rittmeister, not to Hauptmann in April 1917. He originally had transferred to the air service from the cavalry, so he kept using that rank structure.
And in the Swedish army in the past in the arrillery a "Styckjunkare" was the equivalent to a Captain, I my be wrong, but when the army rationalized the Grades they got the rank of Captain.
Same with the Russian cavalry, which used a few foreign terms. Also worth noting that Ritter is knight, at least in the Austrian context. Ritter Max von Fancypants for instance is roughly equivalent to Sir Max von Fancypants.
@@Lowlandlord Some of the German monarchies before 1918 could also make you a Ritter. Viceadmiral Franz Hipper became Franz Ritter von Hipper after the battle of Jutland, and thus was raised into the Bavarian nobility.
@@Lowlandlord The gentry in Sweden has their "own" house and hall, Riddarhuset och Riddarsalen, where all noble Swedes family crest is represented. So a noble family I a family of Riddare and that equals to Knight, or in old times Riders, because only the rich and noble had horses to ride on, in war, later on the cavalry evolved, but still only the rich would have them, and if they performed well on the battlefield they may be knighted and become a Riddare.
Fun fact: the C96 was so popular in China during the warlord period that examples left by the invading PLA can still be found in the capitol wasteland today.
It’s like you guys knew I had just purchased my Red 9. And have been repeatedly looking up the multiple lacking Red 9 videos out there. Thank you for filling a void in the TH-cam world! Mine is also marked 1920 for the treaty of Versailles but does not have any of the requirements of the Treaty. The curator of Mauser is helping me out by certifying mine and giving me the particular history of why my Red 9 made it through the Treaty with no modifications.
About the price difference between the Red 9 and the standard Mauser pistol: this was probably just because of the inflation. 60 RM in 1914 were worth 78 in 1916, 91 in 1914 and 82 in 1918 (gold standard)
I think this episode does a really good job of showing how the entire Personal Defense Weapon concept was born. The M1 Carbine of WW2 proved to be exactly the kind of weapon to solve the problems presented in this episode--you need one weapon for troops needing something better than a pistol but lighter, handier, and smaller than a rifle. And so you get a light, handy carbine with plenty of firepower, good range, and something you can give to just about all kinds of troops that aren't riflemen.
I still find it strange that so much effort has been spent to problem which already has been solved: assault rifle, except that became the infantry rifle. So next step is compact submachine gun or machine pistol. Uzi with folding stock and Vz-61 Skorpion are nice fillers to that niche. Close range firepower in PDW is more important than long-range accuracy.
That's JUST ABOUT everything right now. The $100 Mosin boxes don't really exist anymore, which kinda sucks right now. BUT... the Browning hi power, is about $800-$1000, the CZ75 is a "better quality" high power, somewhat more expensive... The Jericho 941, or "baby eagle" or "desert eagle 9mm" is an even better quality of the same action... also Spike Spiegel's gun from Cowboy Bebop, they are so much cheaper, especially the older models the pistol from the anime is based on. Random ranting. ☕🐝🇺🇸
I have learned a great from you guys. A friend once had a P08 and i showed him how to break it down from what I have picked up here. Hang in there ya'll
YES YES YES to Mauser self-loading rifle developments! I don't give a hoot about WWI service or what not. Othias and Mae: you have an obligation to humanity!
I thoroughly enjoy shooting my 1911 commercial C96. Also, I recently purchased the shoulder stock rig (from SARCO) and it required a couple of hours of very careful filing to get it to fit properly.
Can't wait for the next episode! The Bolo has an interesting backstory and the Schnellfeuer (I hope I spelled this correctly) has seen a wide use in the '40s
In terms of wartime scarcity, I could see not needing to provide, maintain or replace magazines as a bonus to selecting a pistol like this. On that note, how many magazines would someone be able to requisition? If a low-ranking officer, assistant machine gunner, or some other auxiliary soldier only had a pistol, were they likely to get more than 2 magazines for their luger? There might be some merit to being able to stow away a few stripper clips versus feverishly trying to cram rounds into one of two depleted magazines while things were going poorly.
Stripper clips are trickier to manufacture than most people think. They tend to be made out of much better steel than a box magazine, and very tight tolerances to work well. And they are single use items. Box magazines are much more economical if the army is using European magazine retention protocols. And if you need more than two pistol magazines you should have already found a rifle.
This was a fun and EDUCATIONAL episode(shout to my algorithms out there)🤣 Wonderfully done guys this was much needed today, Mae...never give up on your music lol🤣
Great episode. Love them "Red 9s"; got 4 of them and I want the whole contract lot!! Used them in some IDPA-style matches against current plastic "wondernines" and surprisingly for all (me included) always managed to stay around top half of the scoreboard, clunky reloading (Good clips are a must), relatively slow firing rate and all. Trick is not to handle them above the wood line, kinda like the antique single-handed target shooting position; odd at 1st. but you get used to it; otherwise you'll end up with a sore hand between index finger and thumb.
When you guys mentioned revisiting some of the older handguns I hoped the C96 would get its day... not only did you give me the Italian Contract but now the Red 9!? you spoil me, keep making great videos.
Would love to see a video of the C93 if you can ever get your hands on one. It’s my favorite gun ever and a minute with Mae shooting the gun would be even cooler
Fun fact: When the "Red Nine" C96 pistols went out, some unit armorers mis-interpreted the orders and started putting "9"s on grips of all "new model pistols" issued to their unit. This resulted in some of the P.08 Long "artillery" Luger pistols having red "9"s marked on their grips, as well.
This is my favorite handgun of all times. Uncomfortable as a German I''m not allowed to own one of theses fancy guns so thank you much for showing us this gun and telling us its history. P.S.: NS means New Safety, but it stands for Neue Sicherung, in German of course. Germans didn't mark their guns in English, sorry. As a weapon collector I would collect them. They are best known as a Pistol of the Russia Revolution and the following Civil War, also with the Chinese Revolution. A weapon that was used on so many big conflicts and became a Symbol of it.
@@hailexiao2770 No, stocked muzzleloaders had been around for centuries before that. Some militaries issued a pair of flintlock pistols to cavalrymen, one smoothbore and one rifled where the rifled one had a detachable stock in case your horse got killed and you had to fight as infantry. Both pistols would work for short range typical cavalry tactics, but the smoothbore was quicker to reload.
Quite lot of Mauser C96s (both 7.63 and "Red 9") came back to the United States and to the UK as war trophies. They were often advertised for sale in American newspapers during the 1920s and 1930s.
Not sure how many times it's been said now, but let me say it too! I really enjoyed the more -as Othais described it- podcast-y May segment. It was a lot of fun to listen to. Would be lovely, if we could get more of that in the future, instead of just the dry stuff.
The dream pistol of mine, a friend of mine who has a 7.63 commercial one in nearly mint condition, let me shoot a magazine from it. We met at a range as we were talking about firearms. I mentioned that I had seen some at a gunshop for sale but in rough condition. I still regret not at least buying one.
On stopping power I remember hearing stories of the bandits of the 20s and 30s carrying .30 Mauser or .38 super for its ability to punch car bodies or even the rudimentary early “bulletproof “ vests using them like an ancient 5.7 28 no clue if it’s true but that idea always caught my fancy
also its very satisfying to find out that this pistol (well c96 in general) helped wrench back some control for Paul Mauser. A truly ingenious and revolutionary man screwed over by financial finagling.
The Kaiser didn’t have a birth defect. He suffered a birth injury. his shoulder was shattered during birth and the nerves were damage to his arm. That is why he had very limited use of his arm or some say a withered arm. Love your content.
The French soldiers in WWI had a nickname for the Mauser C96 (as well as to other fast repeating guns) « la machine à découdre » : « The unsewing machine » an analogy to the sewing machine and it’s repetitive sound. The word « découdre » referring to death.
It was actually called the "Red Nein", and the red nine was there to remind the German sergeants what they needed to yell at any privates trying to load 7.63.
Boy, that nine->nein-joke never gets old
@@FantadiRienzo 9?
@@FantadiRienzo Never mind it does only work in English. :)
Reminds me of the old joke about Project Apollo, that NASA called the Saturn V "four nines" reliable not because it had 99.99 percent parts reliability, but because they had asked their rocket scientists if total reliability was possible and von Braun and three of his assistants had all said "Nein."
@@carlcarlton764 It works pretty well in German neun (9) and nein (no) are close enough to make jokes about them.
I love how May has the color of her hearing protection match the shirt and the cap. High fashion of the shooting arena indeed.
I love the way Mae has that slight Lilley Munster thing going on with her hair.
Yes but do her shoes match her belt?
This is serious fookin' business.
I guess I'm in the minority here but I like the way the fast forward works to avoid Mae all together.
@@MrPither999 bruh
I’m still blown away by reading different variations of Churchill’s actions in the Sudan and being armed with one of these and coming out alive while everyone else was getting killed due to them sticking to swords and lances while Churchill had the Mauser due to an injury
The makers of the 1972 film, The Young Winston , starring Simon Ward claimed to have found Churchill's C96 and used it in the film. Don't know what happened to it subsequently.
@@51WCDodge It was probably given back to the family.
@@samiam619 doubt that as he would have had it taken off him when he was captured and imprisoned as a POW. He later escaped but that is another story.
@@somersethuscarl2938 I doubt the boers destroyed it, so it could have been recovered post war and traced back to him.
@@joewilson3575 Very possible but then it would have been owned by someone in RSA so could not be "returned" to the family
A note: While _Rittmeister_ does indeed literally mean "riding master", in the context of the Kaiser's army (and other Germanic and Nordic armies of the time), it was specifically a cavalry officer's rank, equivalent to the non-cavalry rank of _Hauptmann_ (captain).
This is also the reason why Manfred von Richthofen - The Red Baron - was promoted to the rank of Rittmeister, not to Hauptmann in April 1917. He originally had transferred to the air service from the cavalry, so he kept using that rank structure.
And in the Swedish army in the past in the arrillery a "Styckjunkare" was the equivalent to a Captain, I my be wrong, but when the army rationalized the Grades they got the rank of Captain.
Same with the Russian cavalry, which used a few foreign terms. Also worth noting that Ritter is knight, at least in the Austrian context. Ritter Max von Fancypants for instance is roughly equivalent to Sir Max von Fancypants.
@@Lowlandlord Some of the German monarchies before 1918 could also make you a Ritter. Viceadmiral Franz Hipper became Franz Ritter von Hipper after the battle of Jutland, and thus was raised into the Bavarian nobility.
@@Lowlandlord The gentry in Sweden has their "own" house and hall, Riddarhuset och Riddarsalen, where all noble Swedes family crest is represented. So a noble family I a family of Riddare and that equals to Knight, or in old times Riders, because only the rich and noble had horses to ride on, in war, later on the cavalry evolved, but still only the rich would have them, and if they performed well on the battlefield they may be knighted and become a Riddare.
Fun fact: the C96 was so popular in China during the warlord period that examples left by the invading PLA can still be found in the capitol wasteland today.
This is true, other logan
Little lacking in the power department however
@@baker90338 lacking in firepower? The 7.63x25mm was considered the highest velocity bullet until the 7.62 tokarev, and then the .357 magnum.
Also the Type 80 machinepistol/carbine. Which has some notable improvements to the original M712.
@@ironwolf2244 by the time I was using one in DC it kinda wasn’t working well. Granted it was chambered in 10mm for some reason
It’s like you guys knew I had just purchased my Red 9. And have been repeatedly looking up the multiple lacking Red 9 videos out there. Thank you for filling a void in the TH-cam world! Mine is also marked 1920 for the treaty of Versailles but does not have any of the requirements of the Treaty. The curator of Mauser is helping me out by certifying mine and giving me the particular history of why my Red 9 made it through the Treaty with no modifications.
About the price difference between the Red 9 and the standard Mauser pistol: this was probably just because of the inflation. 60 RM in 1914 were worth 78 in 1916, 91 in 1914 and 82 in 1918 (gold standard)
Probably one of the coolest pistols ever made. Once again, thank you for way too much information.
I would love more C96 episodes. I also must thank you. I was able to identify my grandfathers WW1 gun. A Spanish made 32 cal. Love your show.
It’s 5:13 am where I live but you can be damn sure I’m going to watch the entire episode. Thank you guys for the amazing vids recently.
You're an inspiration to all of us
I am so glad I happened to get a C96 the week before the 1899 episode. This has been awesome.
Congratulations. Truly an aspirational gun. Not a great gun to shoot but absolutely worthy of its place in history.
One of my favorite all time pistols, in any variant. Thank all of you who brought this to us.
I just bought one of these things. Expensive little bastard. Wonderfully informative video!
It's debatable whether C96 is more popular in central powers or anime.
@@WastelandArmorer Wait, are you saying that the central powers aren't bent on destroying western civilization?
But isn’t it the official sidearm for all villains in spy films🤔👍👎
Or Star Wars...
I think this episode does a really good job of showing how the entire Personal Defense Weapon concept was born. The M1 Carbine of WW2 proved to be exactly the kind of weapon to solve the problems presented in this episode--you need one weapon for troops needing something better than a pistol but lighter, handier, and smaller than a rifle. And so you get a light, handy carbine with plenty of firepower, good range, and something you can give to just about all kinds of troops that aren't riflemen.
I still find it strange that so much effort has been spent to problem which already has been solved: assault rifle, except that became the infantry rifle. So next step is compact submachine gun or machine pistol. Uzi with folding stock and Vz-61 Skorpion are nice fillers to that niche. Close range firepower in PDW is more important than long-range accuracy.
Again an excellent instalment in explaining the works of the gun. Mae is excellent, they work excellently together.
C96 are soooo expensive right now, wish I’d picked on up years ago. Now I want one even more after this A/B episode series!
That's JUST ABOUT everything right now.
The $100 Mosin boxes don't really exist anymore, which kinda sucks right now.
BUT... the Browning hi power, is about $800-$1000, the CZ75 is a "better quality" high power, somewhat more expensive...
The Jericho 941, or "baby eagle" or "desert eagle 9mm" is an even better quality of the same action... also Spike Spiegel's gun from Cowboy Bebop, they are so much cheaper, especially the older models the pistol from the anime is based on.
Random ranting.
☕🐝🇺🇸
Your presentation is just perfect; scholarly and fun👌
You two do such a great job with every episode! Thank you for such great content!
EDUCATIONAL AND ASSUME patches!
I'm so glad I wasn't TH-cam unsubscribed you guys kill it every episode and the combination of Othais and Mae is the best duo on TH-cam :)
This type of video is what brought me to this channel however I love what you are doing with the hand trap videos.
I have learned a great from you guys. A friend once had a P08 and i showed him how to break it down from what I have picked up here. Hang in there ya'll
Touching and moving the left hand of the Kaiser at that time had me really on edge! Glad he accepted the correction gracefully.
YES YES YES to Mauser self-loading rifle developments! I don't give a hoot about WWI service or what not. Othias and Mae: you have an obligation to humanity!
I refuse to comment when I have nothing to add. Period. I’m glad this is well understood.
I find the "filler" content before and after the "War Were Declared" segment to be quite educational and interesting.
Deep red 99 had me in stitches! Always loved the look of this pistol
The red 9. Omg thank you for all your hard work
Already love the new clips logo. Gonna check it out asap
I thoroughly enjoy shooting my 1911 commercial C96. Also, I recently purchased the shoulder stock rig (from SARCO) and it required a couple of hours of very careful filing to get it to fit properly.
Can't wait for the next episode! The Bolo has an interesting backstory and the Schnellfeuer (I hope I spelled this correctly) has seen a wide use in the '40s
You guys are great! Love the various old models you feature. WWI was the epoch of small arms development.
In terms of wartime scarcity, I could see not needing to provide, maintain or replace magazines as a bonus to selecting a pistol like this.
On that note, how many magazines would someone be able to requisition? If a low-ranking officer, assistant machine gunner, or some other auxiliary soldier only had a pistol, were they likely to get more than 2 magazines for their luger? There might be some merit to being able to stow away a few stripper clips versus feverishly trying to cram rounds into one of two depleted magazines while things were going poorly.
Stripper clips are trickier to manufacture than most people think. They tend to be made out of much better steel than a box magazine, and very tight tolerances to work well. And they are single use items. Box magazines are much more economical if the army is using European magazine retention protocols. And if you need more than two pistol magazines you should have already found a rifle.
Just had one of these drop into my lap. Great to learn about it here.
It is so good to see Mae and Othias having genuine fun doing this show! 😊
This was a fun and EDUCATIONAL episode(shout to my algorithms out there)🤣 Wonderfully done guys this was much needed today, Mae...never give up on your music lol🤣
I have a class at 730 tomorrow.
Oh look, a nice C&R video.
Work at 630 for me.....
That is what caffeine was invented for!
Great episode. Love them "Red 9s"; got 4 of them and I want the whole contract lot!!
Used them in some IDPA-style matches against current plastic "wondernines" and surprisingly for all (me included) always managed to stay around top half of the scoreboard, clunky reloading (Good clips are a must), relatively slow firing rate and all. Trick is not to handle them above the wood line, kinda like the antique single-handed target shooting position; odd at 1st. but you get used to it; otherwise you'll end up with a sore hand between index finger and thumb.
Another great video. Thanks Othias and Mae!
When you guys mentioned revisiting some of the older handguns I hoped the C96 would get its day... not only did you give me the Italian Contract but now the Red 9!? you spoil me, keep making great videos.
These revisit episodes are excellent.
So much mechanical function that ya don't realize you're taking for granted woooow so cool to see the development
Love these, never stop guys
Love the show, love the C96. Looking forward to the next one
Would love to see a video of the C93 if you can ever get your hands on one. It’s my favorite gun ever and a minute with Mae shooting the gun would be even cooler
If you're gonna do the postwar guns you can't call the story of the Broomhandle complete without covering the Spanish and Chinese versions
Didnt the Chinese get some of the full auto?
@@extragoogleaccount6061 yes
The red nine is pretty high on my wish list. Of course I'd love one of the later ones that have a detachable box mag.
The flooded range really gives you that Flanders feel.
I love the Red 9 with a stock. So iconic
How pleasing to come home from a bike ride to this
Another great vid on the c96
Great episode! Informative and entertaining, as always! Thanks!
That muzzle climb comparison shot is amazing!
As a young boy I was fascinated by the broomstick and luger, still am. Enjoyed your video very much, thank you.
Perfect, a box tale
Enjoying the regular rhythm of content
Very appropriate music during Mae's shoot.
Love how the range conditions (mud, puddles, etc.) add to the realism of testing a WW1 pistol
Fun fact: When the "Red Nine" C96 pistols went out, some unit armorers mis-interpreted the orders and started putting "9"s on grips of all "new model pistols" issued to their unit. This resulted in some of the P.08 Long "artillery" Luger pistols having red "9"s marked on their grips, as well.
Now that's a dream gun
It’s impressive how fast you can make these videos 👍👍
This is my favorite handgun of all times. Uncomfortable as a German I''m not allowed to own one of theses fancy guns so thank you much for showing us this gun and telling us its history.
P.S.: NS means New Safety, but it stands for Neue Sicherung, in German of course. Germans didn't mark their guns in English, sorry. As a weapon collector I would collect them. They are best known as a Pistol of the Russia Revolution and the following Civil War, also with the Chinese Revolution. A weapon that was used on so many big conflicts and became a Symbol of it.
@0:56 I saw that bell and thought, FINALLY! C&Rsenal got corporate sponsorship from Taco Bell!
I'm curious how effective the C93 Borchardt was as a stocked pistol. And did the Borchardt start off the stocked pistol fad?
No, stocked pistols have existed as long as pistols have. So roughly 400 years before the borchardt.
The Colt 1851 probably started the fad, since for a while a stocked revolver was the only practical way to implement a repeating shoulder-fired gun.
@@hailexiao2770 No, stocked muzzleloaders had been around for centuries before that. Some militaries issued a pair of flintlock pistols to cavalrymen, one smoothbore and one rifled where the rifled one had a detachable stock in case your horse got killed and you had to fight as infantry. Both pistols would work for short range typical cavalry tactics, but the smoothbore was quicker to reload.
I'll watch this a second time tomorrow while on the exercise bike.
Thanks!
@ 17:09 “Complicated and dubiously helpful, no one liked this.” Describes so many things I’ve done in my life.
Another great episode!
Another great topic, So many variations to an iconic weapon.
Thank you for the history of this unique arm!
I've been waiting for this episode. The C96 was a minor weapon with a lot of history.
thanks guys! well done.
Firearms of the civil war series in the future. I am extremely excited
Quite lot of Mauser C96s (both 7.63 and "Red 9") came back to the United States and to the UK as war trophies. They were often advertised for sale in American newspapers during the 1920s and 1930s.
I just watched the first original episode; you guys are so cute! What I needed as a push to joined patrion. Great work and thanks.
Yes more obscure fun history!
Always a good time !
A comment for history and a fantastic video!
BTW, I bought some t shirts from your store. Really good quality cotton. Very durable and bright colours. Can't recommend highly enough.
Love your videos, always hang out for the next one. Keep up the good work guys
Not sure how many times it's been said now, but let me say it too!
I really enjoyed the more -as Othais described it- podcast-y May segment. It was a lot of fun to listen to. Would be lovely, if we could get more of that in the future, instead of just the dry stuff.
Excellent narrating!
I definitely saw the Clip 001...I like it!
Yay! Patented pokey hand returns!
The dream pistol of mine, a friend of mine who has a 7.63 commercial one in nearly mint condition, let me shoot a magazine from it. We met at a range as we were talking about firearms. I mentioned that I had seen some at a gunshop for sale but in rough condition. I still regret not at least buying one.
On stopping power I remember hearing stories of the bandits of the 20s and 30s carrying .30 Mauser or .38 super for its ability to punch car bodies or even the rudimentary early “bulletproof “ vests using them like an ancient 5.7 28 no clue if it’s true but that idea always caught my fancy
Another great episode. Love the channel. Enjoyed the "Clip". Feed the algorithm.
always gotta give that obligitory comment. y'all never disappoint with the weekly videos. thanks so much for the continued effort!!!!
also its very satisfying to find out that this pistol (well c96 in general) helped wrench back some control for Paul Mauser. A truly ingenious and revolutionary man screwed over by financial finagling.
my comment to help the channel
love you guys. great content. TH-cam algorithm continues to disappoint.
Thank you for your awesome work!
Love your work!
Awesome video. Watched it early just feeding hungry old Al.
Keep up the great content!
The Kaiser didn’t have a birth defect. He suffered a birth injury. his shoulder was shattered during birth and the nerves were damage to his arm. That is why he had very limited use of his arm or some say a withered arm. Love your content.
The French soldiers in WWI had a nickname for the Mauser C96 (as well as to other fast repeating guns) « la machine à découdre » : « The unsewing machine » an analogy to the sewing machine and it’s repetitive sound. The word « découdre » referring to death.
I liked the clips format. I think that's a lot easier to introduce to somebody who is not hardcore. You might say it's a lot more shareable.
Great episode, & sure I could use more C-96 episodes.
Ahh, a choice of an avid gun collector. It's a nice gun stranger.
hehehe...thank you
obligatory comment
Bruh 😂 nice!
Love you guys, keep making these~
I have been slacking on watching your videos well good thing I have off Friday lol
Awesome video!