I miss some elements from old style c&r videos - the othais short intro(nothing against mae, to be clear), the "war were declared" with accompanying cannon fire, machinegun fire(mandatory!) and various other ww1 noises, and the straight to the point "would you take this into battle?". We need at least the "war were declared" bit back where applicable (the machinegun fire is a must).
I too really miss the cold opens and WWD, they could use the phrase for any conflict if they wanted. I also feel like they used to do more disassembly, field stripping, getting into the actual piece more. I’m sure it’s a combination of TH-cam’s ever changing policies and Bruno’s animations that’s caused the drastic reduction, but there’s something about seeing the actual piece being pulled apart that animations can’t match. None of this is to say anything bad, still love the show and will continue my support!
I love it. “We put an image of the pistol on the grip of the pistol, and then we took the image of the pistol and put an image of the pistol on its grip. Just in case you forget!”
Very good sir, Elvis presented president nixon with a .45 1911 (with ammo) in the Whitehouse whilst wearing a purple jump suit (with cape) and off his face on uppers, downers, lubes etc😊
This is the gun that would lead to, among others, the legendary BrowningsBrowningsBrownings pistol, and any gun with that legacy is one deserving of respect.
This, to me, is Browning’s most impressive design by a mile. It wasn’t the first automatic pistol, compared to his invention of the automatic shotgun or being so early to the self loading rifle race, but neither of those had the same lasting impact. It’s clearly not setting anyone’s world on fire today, or maybe even just a few years after its debut, but the fact that we even got a middle of the road example of *The Modern Automatic Pistol Operating System* in 1899 is absolutely insane.
He basically invented the form every successful pistol design since the early 1900s follows to this day… no more toggle locks or other funky designs. It’s the reason we see other designs as funky or weird.
Othias, thank you for placing the pistols on the same side when showing them. Yes, it really helps. Video is only 2D and we don't have the cues from being there in person. It's much harder to try and rotate one pistol in our minds. Plus, you are intimately familiar with the pistols, we are not. We need to glance back and forth between the models. It REALLY helps having them both top side up! Please continue this method of comparing two firearms.
@@tacticalmattfoley I still don't get why some of y'all want to attach your modern culture to a bunch of racist traitors who held a "nation" of their own for all of 4 years.
Love all the improvements from the old version of this video! Unfortunately it does come at the cost of there now being 1 less "war were declared" in the playlist 😭
I drank Ballistol one time. It doesn't taste like it smells and I can't recommend drinking it, but I like how it smells, so I can recommend smelling it.
One thing about these .32 pistols back then is that they had 3 1/2 to four-inch barrels. A pic in Vanderlinden's book shows a printed figure of 300 meters per second for Austro-Hungarian ammunition. I've seen that or more on other "full-sized" autos from the first half of the 20th century. If I were a European of the day, I would feel very well armed with one of these in my coat pocket! A very civilized, easy to shoot pistol. Great episode!
My first vintage pistol was a Colt 1903 pocket hammerless, I just fell in love with the lines of that beautiful piece when I saw an "Evolution of Colt pistols" video. That then solidified for me a love of .32 ACP, and I now have a small side collection of about a half dozen of them. I have the Colt, a Ruby, and a Savage 1907 for the older ones, a 1944 production Beretta M1935, and found a couple of rural police turn-ins: an early production Manurhin Walther PP, and a later Beretta 81. I still hope to some day add an FN 1900 and 1910, and some of the other German guns as well.
I had one of these on hold for 2 years at my LGS, (estate sale or some lawyer stuff) finally got it last week, super cool gun and a historical lyrics significant design.
The term "Browning" was early-20th European slang for civilian pocket pistol, regardless if it was actually built by FN. So, don't take it as proof for this exact style of pistol.
The other thing to consider- everyone was using ball rounds. Expansion is non-existent, so .32 is only making a marginally smaller hole than 9mm at this time, with adequate penetration. Pistols just aren’t at great at stopping people then or now.
Great Video! I have the two volume set form Wet Dog and it's an amazing book. Best reference set on FN Browning pistols. Love the chapters on the FN 1907 and the Baby Browning.
Some years ago I was asked to check a pistol ("its a luger or something"). My friend knew little about firearms. On inspection it was a 1900. I checked it was unloaded but couldn’t work out how to take it apart as i couldn’t believe you'd need a screwdriver for that. It had been owned by an important military person who had carried it through two world wars. I saw some documents. He looked impressive.
The choice between big bore single action or small bore semi auto in ww1 is tricky, at the start of the war officers carried them for self defence, yet officers were expected to lead from the front(hence the high casualties amongst them) so clearing a trench I Would say semi auto would be the go too😊
The location of the recoil spring has _nothing_ to do with bore axis, which refers to the height of the bore over the vertical center of support (i.e. the thumb web). With a centerfire firing pin concentric with the bore, the feed tab extends a certain distance below that, dictating the optimum theoretical height for a conventional slide that recoils over the thumb. The difference between that minimum and the actual height for any given pistol is driven by the contents (usually fire control parts) of the top rear of the frame, which is clearly higher (16:01) for this pistol than e.g. a Glock.
For what it is worth recoil control in the modern sense (keeping down rise) seems not to have been a thing. The grips seems more about letting the gun rock to absorb recoil force. After all it was at most 50 years since revolvers became a thing
Interestingly, the FN 1900 Pistol has gain Notoriety in 4 Attempted/Successful Assassinations from 1904- 1933. 1.) On June 16th, 1904, Finnish Nationalist & activist, Eugen Schauman, assassinated Russian Governor-General, Nikolay Bobrikov in Helsinki, Finland 2.) On October 26th, 1909, Korean independence activist, An Jung-geun, assassinated the 1st Prime Minister of Japan and Resident-General of Korea, Ito Hirobuni at the Harbin Railway Station. One possible reason, Korean & Japanese Relations in the context of Imperial Colonialism 3.) On August 30, 1918, prior to the Russian Revolution and final months of WW1, socialist revolutionary Fanny Efimovna Kaplan failed to assassinate then founder of Soviet Russia, Vladimir Lenin during a speech at the Hammer & Sickle, an armory factory located in Southern Moscow. 4.) On April 30th, 1933, Peruvian militant & member of the Peruvian Aprista Party, was reported to have used a FN 1900 Pistol to assassinate Peruvian President & Army Officer, Luis Miguel Sánchez Cerro in City of Kings. Peru.
There is a memorial plate honoring Schauman at the location in the Cabinet Palace (The Imperial Senate at the time) hs.mediadelivery.fi/img/978/5266902d12624cf385339c07eba49153.jpg There was also another case in the 6th of February 1905 Lennart Hohenthal assassinated procurator Eliel Soisalon-Soininen with a Browning M1900.
You guys should have a podcast or something of the like on Spotify and other platforms. I love to hear you guys chit chat it would be amazing to have to have a podcast to listen to
We do, Unloading Podcast, $1 subscription on Patreon, every other week drop, link is in the description. We give show updates, upcoming episodes, planned event meetups, etc.
My FN 1899 doesn't have the sight block-the longer nubbin'. It was a first year model. The 1899 shown has a serial number that approaches the transition period with the 1900.
I feel you may have done something already, but I can't find it. I'd like an analysis of Browning's overall style. What principles did he consistently apply?
I was about to ask why it seemed like the sights had a proof mark...and then he showed the back end, illustrating how the sights are integral to the breech. Now that makes sense.
The TT-30/33 looks like an FN1903 externally but internally it works like a 1911... except with far fewer parts. Great pistol, cool cartridge... a bit sketchy having a single-action trigger and no manual safety lever (only a half-cock hammer notch - some dexterity required to holster it safely!!) Yugo M57 fixed this problem and also is generally finished better (neater slide serrations, etc.)
I've never heard anyone calling later versions the FN1900/1902. I have understood these to be called the model FN1900 and with later production dates of 1902, 1903, etc.
One of these was also used to exterminate the Russian General Governor of Finland Bobrikov by Eugen Schauman in 1905. The .32ACP had issues with Russian medals though, but six shots were enough and seventh went to Eugens head
Thanks guys love the channel, But I have a question, According to "2005 Standard Catalog of Firearms", Ned Schwing, on page 471, The Model 1900 ..."This model is notorious as the pistol that was used to assassinate Archduke Ferdinand , an event that touched off WW1."... In the video you stated the Model 1910 was used? I have heard other also say the Model 1910 was used in the assassination. Is the said gun in a Museum? I find it of interest that the assassin using the weak .32 ACP, both for Archduke Ferdinand and wife and in the Koreas assassination. Cheers 🍩🍩🤠
Others have mentioned it was actually an FN Model 1910. However, the Model 1900 was used to carry out a number of political assassinations - a Finnish nationalist used it to shoot the Russian governor-general, for example.
I miss some elements from old style c&r videos - the othais short intro(nothing against mae, to be clear), the "war were declared" with accompanying cannon fire, machinegun fire(mandatory!) and various other ww1 noises, and the straight to the point "would you take this into battle?". We need at least the "war were declared" bit back where applicable (the machinegun fire is a must).
Need
I think You Tube has banned videos showing full auto machine guns being fired. If it's not a full ban they are definitely being demonetized.
Yes, please. We miss that badly
Yeah, "War were declared" absolutely needs to return. At minimum it should remain in any "replacement" videos which originally had it. :(
I too really miss the cold opens and WWD, they could use the phrase for any conflict if they wanted. I also feel like they used to do more disassembly, field stripping, getting into the actual piece more. I’m sure it’s a combination of TH-cam’s ever changing policies and Bruno’s animations that’s caused the drastic reduction, but there’s something about seeing the actual piece being pulled apart that animations can’t match.
None of this is to say anything bad, still love the show and will continue my support!
I love it. “We put an image of the pistol on the grip of the pistol, and then we took the image of the pistol and put an image of the pistol on its grip. Just in case you forget!”
Theodore Roosevelt had one with pearl handles, I wanna say it was donated to a museum in the 1950s fully loaded
Very good sir, Elvis presented president nixon with a .45 1911 (with ammo) in the Whitehouse whilst wearing a purple jump suit (with cape) and off his face on uppers, downers, lubes etc😊
I think any firearm that Roosevelt ever touched should be kept loaded at all times frankly
NRA museum in Fairfax Virginia I believe
Ahh, the good old bad days, no woke nonsense, left to your own devices, halcyon days long gone. 😢The wonderful history of guns😊@@Theonederboy
@@gorbalsboy I think you meant ludes, as in quaaludes? Although being Elvis he was probably on lube also.
While we may be partial to others, this is truly the Browning design that changed the firearms world forever.
This is the gun that would lead to, among others, the legendary BrowningsBrowningsBrownings pistol, and any gun with that legacy is one deserving of respect.
Yep... less known, but much greater long-term affect on firearms development.
This, to me, is Browning’s most impressive design by a mile. It wasn’t the first automatic pistol, compared to his invention of the automatic shotgun or being so early to the self loading rifle race, but neither of those had the same lasting impact. It’s clearly not setting anyone’s world on fire today, or maybe even just a few years after its debut, but the fact that we even got a middle of the road example of *The Modern Automatic Pistol Operating System* in 1899 is absolutely insane.
He basically invented the form every successful pistol design since the early 1900s follows to this day… no more toggle locks or other funky designs. It’s the reason we see other designs as funky or weird.
You may not like it, but this is what Peak Pocket Pistol Performance looks like.
Today is a good day. I work for Amazon and listen to yall while I work
sorry but a day working for Amazon can't be good
A venture brothers reference in an fn1900 episode is a suprise but a welcome one
Peak recognizes peak
Othias, thank you for placing the pistols on the same side when showing them. Yes, it really helps. Video is only 2D and we don't have the cues from being there in person. It's much harder to try and rotate one pistol in our minds. Plus, you are intimately familiar with the pistols, we are not. We need to glance back and forth between the models. It REALLY helps having them both top side up! Please continue this method of comparing two firearms.
Finding out Browning went on a mission to Dixie adds a new level adversity and perseverance to his story.
Stop your frowning, and grab your Browning.
Browning has always been a popular gun manufacturer down here in the South......
@@tacticalmattfoley I still don't get why some of y'all want to attach your modern culture to a bunch of racist traitors who held a "nation" of their own for all of 4 years.
I always welcome an * when it comes to C&Rsenal. 🙂👍
As always greatly appreciate what you do, especially the fact you take the time to rectify and or improve previous work
Love all the improvements from the old version of this video! Unfortunately it does come at the cost of there now being 1 less "war were declared" in the playlist 😭
I drank Ballistol one time. It doesn't taste like it smells and I can't recommend drinking it, but I like how it smells, so I can recommend smelling it.
I will never skip your intro. That music is bloody perfect and gets me excited for the huge amount of info coming my way.
Congrats on breaking 538k subs!! 🎉❤
Can't believe you aren't at 4 meellion right now!
I bought one of these broken, and (with help of experts), managed to get it into working condition. It's fun to shoot. Feels very good in the hand.
One thing about these .32 pistols back then is that they had 3 1/2 to four-inch barrels. A pic in Vanderlinden's book shows a printed figure of 300 meters per second for Austro-Hungarian ammunition. I've seen that or more on other "full-sized" autos from the first half of the 20th century. If I were a European of the day, I would feel very well armed with one of these in my coat pocket! A very civilized, easy to shoot pistol. Great episode!
Babe, wake up, new C&Rsenal video!
My first vintage pistol was a Colt 1903 pocket hammerless, I just fell in love with the lines of that beautiful piece when I saw an "Evolution of Colt pistols" video. That then solidified for me a love of .32 ACP, and I now have a small side collection of about a half dozen of them. I have the Colt, a Ruby, and a Savage 1907 for the older ones, a 1944 production Beretta M1935, and found a couple of rural police turn-ins: an early production Manurhin Walther PP, and a later Beretta 81. I still hope to some day add an FN 1900 and 1910, and some of the other German guns as well.
Thank you for turning me on to Ballistol !!
I had one of these on hold for 2 years at my LGS, (estate sale or some lawyer stuff) finally got it last week, super cool gun and a historical lyrics significant design.
Great remake! I love the new/additional information y'all provide!
Love this pistol and I own one. So advanced for its time! Loved the original episode on this one and now the new updated episode here!
I’ve been looking forward to this remake for a while! I’m always down for more stories of the patron saint of pistol design.
That Browning went to the south for two years of mission work and came back alive.... truly the most remarkable thing to have learned.
Just reading Erwin Rommels memories of WWI „Infantry Attacks“, where he mentions that he carried a Browning.
Many WW1 officer’s had FN. Erwin kept his to 2.0 War😂
1910 model maybe. Mauser 1914 bulky vs Fn
The term "Browning" was early-20th European slang for civilian pocket pistol, regardless if it was actually built by FN. So, don't take it as proof for this exact style of pistol.
@@454FatJackBut Mauser 1910/14 is much better as a pistol, it has much better sights.
I leaned more about The Legend Join M. Browning in this video than any other scores!!! He's one of my favorite g diciners!!!
Hail the 32 Channel….. it is back,back,back.
No, it is blowback,blowback,blowback.
Would y'all like to do an episode on the 1897 Marlin pump shotgun? I'd be more than willing to send it in
Email them via their website with the model as the subject line.
7.65 Browning may not be the "manstopper" that every one wants...but who volunteers to stand in front of one ?
The other thing to consider- everyone was using ball rounds. Expansion is non-existent, so .32 is only making a marginally smaller hole than 9mm at this time, with adequate penetration. Pistols just aren’t at great at stopping people then or now.
Great Video! I have the two volume set form Wet Dog and it's an amazing book. Best reference set on FN Browning pistols. Love the chapters on the FN 1907 and the Baby Browning.
124 years later and still my favourite Browning pistol design (at least aesthetically).
Mine too!
Perhaps the best sidearm in Red Dead Redemption 2.
I served in the Brazilian army in 1981.
I use a FN FAL,7.62 a great weapon!
Truly recursive pistol. Also, Othias's pronounciation of French has definitely improved over the years.
Humble beginnings.
Thanks for this episode and evetything you do. I also give thanks for Ballistol
Everything. Sorry. A few issues with the fingers here
JMB, THE gun-god! 😊
I love this channel so much
i watched the complete video on Playeur because of TH-cam's restrictions on firearms content.
Some years ago I was asked to check a pistol ("its a luger or something"). My friend knew little about firearms. On inspection it was a 1900. I checked it was unloaded but couldn’t work out how to take it apart as i couldn’t believe you'd need a screwdriver for that. It had been owned by an important military person who had carried it through two world wars. I saw some documents. He looked impressive.
I enjoy listening to both of you too
Thank you for not 69’ing the pistols. I can’t focus on the one that is upside down.
Say hello to Dills for me, also glad you're feeling better Mae.
I Had a 1903 Pocket AUTO VERY Acurate . Natural Pointer 🔫
The choice between big bore single action or small bore semi auto in ww1 is tricky, at the start of the war officers carried them for self defence, yet officers were expected to lead from the front(hence the high casualties amongst them) so clearing a trench I Would say semi auto would be the go too😊
Does have a Slide hold open. Slide back , safety on holds back 😊
One of the downsides of being in Canada, government is scared of private pistol ownership
The location of the recoil spring has _nothing_ to do with bore axis, which refers to the height of the bore over the vertical center of support (i.e. the thumb web). With a centerfire firing pin concentric with the bore, the feed tab extends a certain distance below that, dictating the optimum theoretical height for a conventional slide that recoils over the thumb. The difference between that minimum and the actual height for any given pistol is driven by the contents (usually fire control parts) of the top rear of the frame, which is clearly higher (16:01) for this pistol than e.g. a Glock.
I've always liked the look of these. Also, early gang assemble!
So, in addition to inventing the modern handgun, Browning also invented the postmodern handgun, the Laugo Alien….?
You could do simple measurements like trigger pull and chronograph data.
Low cost info.
For what it is worth recoil control in the modern sense (keeping down rise) seems not to have been a thing. The grips seems more about letting the gun rock to absorb recoil force. After all it was at most 50 years since revolvers became a thing
Remarkably, the first "modern" pistol was striker fired and not SA/DA hammer.
Interestingly, the FN 1900 Pistol has gain Notoriety in 4 Attempted/Successful Assassinations from 1904- 1933.
1.) On June 16th, 1904, Finnish Nationalist & activist, Eugen Schauman, assassinated Russian Governor-General, Nikolay Bobrikov in Helsinki, Finland
2.) On October 26th, 1909, Korean independence activist, An Jung-geun, assassinated the 1st Prime Minister of Japan and Resident-General of Korea, Ito Hirobuni at the Harbin Railway Station. One possible reason, Korean & Japanese Relations in the context of Imperial Colonialism
3.) On August 30, 1918, prior to the Russian Revolution and final months of WW1, socialist revolutionary Fanny Efimovna Kaplan failed to assassinate then founder of Soviet Russia, Vladimir Lenin during a speech at the Hammer & Sickle, an armory factory located in Southern Moscow.
4.) On April 30th, 1933, Peruvian militant & member of the Peruvian Aprista Party, was reported to have used a FN 1900 Pistol to assassinate Peruvian President & Army Officer, Luis Miguel Sánchez Cerro in City of Kings. Peru.
There is a memorial plate honoring Schauman at the location in the Cabinet Palace (The Imperial Senate at the time)
hs.mediadelivery.fi/img/978/5266902d12624cf385339c07eba49153.jpg
There was also another case in the 6th of February 1905 Lennart Hohenthal assassinated procurator Eliel Soisalon-Soininen with a Browning M1900.
Ok, this is unexpected and not surprising at the same time. I shall have a look what's new about the oldest .32
Indeed.
I notice a lack of music. While it was overpowering sometimes, without it the episode feels a bit more dull than usual.
You guys should have a podcast or something of the like on Spotify and other platforms. I love to hear you guys chit chat it would be amazing to have to have a podcast to listen to
We do, Unloading Podcast, $1 subscription on Patreon, every other week drop, link is in the description. We give show updates, upcoming episodes, planned event meetups, etc.
@@CandrsenalYou should be expecting $50 monthly subscription starting December! I love you guys
Will someone please tell me what piece the intro music comes from?
Also 13:18 FN made the first Stargate? Who knew!
The older videos credited the soundtrack to `Noyemi Karlaite`, but I can't find much information on a anyone by that name.
BALLISTOL RULES!!
My FN 1899 doesn't have the sight block-the longer nubbin'. It was a first year model. The 1899 shown has a serial number that approaches the transition period with the 1900.
Is this a Remake? I swear I remember a video you guys did on the 1900 a few years ago
I feel you may have done something already, but I can't find it. I'd like an analysis of Browning's overall style. What principles did he consistently apply?
"Muff" wasn't what I was expecting 🤣
Yes. Thank you. 28:52 The upside down comparison always drives me batty.
Yes, it’s a short drive.
when othias said "the deep south" lightning shouldve flashed and thunder rolled through while air raid sirens started spooling up somewhere far away.
Hell yeah!!
watching some of the older episodes it is night and day different in the quality of the videos now. high polish and very professional.
In WWII fashion, a week by week John Moses Browning series?
I was about to ask why it seemed like the sights had a proof mark...and then he showed the back end, illustrating how the sights are integral to the breech. Now that makes sense.
The grip-ception made me giggle a bit
Now I see where Tokarev find the idea for grips.
The TT-30/33 looks like an FN1903 externally but internally it works like a 1911... except with far fewer parts.
Great pistol, cool cartridge... a bit sketchy having a single-action trigger and no manual safety lever (only a half-cock hammer notch - some dexterity required to holster it safely!!)
Yugo M57 fixed this problem and also is generally finished better (neater slide serrations, etc.)
I have to ask, why is there very little music in the new episodes? I really do miss the music.
That's a nice little F'n pistol.
babe wake up
new C&Rsenal primer
cheers from england!
The FN M1900 is famous in Korea as the gun used by Ahn Jung-geun martyr to kill Hirobumi Ito at Harbin Station.
I've never heard anyone calling later versions the FN1900/1902. I have understood these to be called the model FN1900 and with later production dates of 1902, 1903, etc.
One of these was also used to exterminate the Russian General Governor of Finland Bobrikov by Eugen Schauman in 1905. The .32ACP had issues with Russian medals though, but six shots were enough and seventh went to Eugens head
Are those binoculars I see flying this early?
No, I don't see torpedo boats.
I like the 22 pump I've got a 62 A.
Can you do inter wars lee enfields plz
Thanks guys love the channel, But I have a question, According to "2005 Standard Catalog of Firearms", Ned Schwing, on page 471, The Model 1900 ..."This model is notorious as the pistol that was used to assassinate Archduke Ferdinand , an event that touched off WW1."... In the video you stated the Model 1910 was used? I have heard other also say the Model 1910 was used in the assassination. Is the said gun in a Museum? I find it of interest that the assassin using the weak .32 ACP, both for Archduke Ferdinand and wife and in the Koreas assassination. Cheers 🍩🍩🤠
What was available
Easy to conceal
Gavrilo Princip used FN Model 1910 in 9mm kurz (.380 ACP) to shoot Ferdinand.
@@miroslavdraskovic3135 Is this gun in a Museum?
@@Love_rainy_days Yes, but there was, I beleve, four FN 1910 pistols involved. I am not sure is it "the" pistol.
Others have mentioned it was actually an FN Model 1910.
However, the Model 1900 was used to carry out a number of political assassinations - a Finnish nationalist used it to shoot the Russian governor-general, for example.
50:02
Hey look, that Browning guy made a gun, who’d thunked it?
I support the alligator rhythm
They had plastic grips!?? I didn't even know plastic existed back in 1900
Whoot whoot
I have one of the FN 1900 and one of the Chinese copies..
Ballistol removed all traces of the vehicle registration decal from my license plate.
Grip of infinite recursion.
24:51 OH NOS! It's FNception
FN rules
Sic Semper Tyrannis
1904 Nikolay Bobrikov assasination by 🇫🇮Eugen Schaumann. Model 1900
24:50 FN-CEPTION 😂😂😂
It is not going to Give you big massive recoil. It is only a tiny 32 caliber gun. No recoil people, no recoil.
Changes !!!!! Moar dinosaurs?
This gun is in Red Dead 2. In 1899.
Still not a 45 nineteen hundred and eleven
I feel so early
1:12:37