History of WWI Primer 183: US Colt 1911 Documentary
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C&Rsenal presents its Primer series where we delve into the story of this classic firearm. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
C&Rsenal continues to present in-depth small arms history every other week. Join us each Tuesday!
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Additional reading:
Colt .45 Service Pistols: Models of 1911 and 1911A1
Charles W. Clawson
U.S. Military Automatic Pistols 1894 - 1920
Edward Scott Meadows
The Government Models
William H.D. Goddard
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The Road to the 1911:
Colt 1900: th-cam.com/video/bK2YpKuSiC8/w-d-xo.html
Colt 1902: th-cam.com/video/fNNtkUGVH5s/w-d-xo.html
Colt 1905: th-cam.com/video/lr6teOs_0OE/w-d-xo.html
Colt 1907/09: th-cam.com/video/Ya3D3mUlfmk/w-d-xo.html
Colt 1909: th-cam.com/video/SG73dIAEV_4/w-d-xo.html
Long road!
It’s finally here
Still waiting on the Kongsberg M1914 & FN Grand Browning…
… i watched each at least 3 times 🙈
I just did a quick round addition and it is approximately 8 hours in videos with this one included, I have watched them before and fully intend to again.
Great, long-awaited episode but unfortunately it will cause the world to end tomorrow.
No the end of the world is after part 3
I've been waiting long enough.
@@MartinCHorowitzAre you sure we don’t have to wait for Gun Jesus to return from Heaven bringing John Browning with him?
@@samiam619 That is in part 2
Meh. I didn't have any plans.😂
It’s crazy how often they make a video on firearms that I had no idea existed, like this one!
One of them Unremembered Firearms
A true forgotten gem.
Every two weeks I look forward to their next release
Yeah, I'm surprised they even no about good ol' Jo Mo Bro
We're really getting into the weeds to avoid WW2 Era productions. Like come on othias, the air force carbine with the longer mag is one thing. But the obscure "1911" offshoot, really now; smh.
I find that very Interesting and wonder if it’s generational? as most in my peer group are very familiar with the 1911 of that group I’d say 20-30% know it’s history.
Huh, what an oddball pistol. Something like this would never catch on
"automatic pistols" imagine how they would fair on horseback.
@@abstractapproach634 Clearly the LeMat hybrid shotgun-revolver is the way of the future.
And you tell me I can't shoot it with my middlefinger whilst resting my index on the slide! No deal.
Really dropped the ball on the 1900's no-switch pistol-whip clubworthiness.
The Cavalry were right...... wheel guns are the way forward .....for sure....
I am an old man, and I thought I may never to see that ultimate moment of this channel. I feel like crying.😭
same. holding back tears of joy as i type.
🫂
Can't wait for ar15
@@beargillium2369 since they're still in the 19 teens, i wouldn't hold my breath.
@@jessestreet2549 isn't it from 1915?
Really good of the C&R team to bring lesser known models to light.
Yes, everybody's been waiting for the 1911 video, but all those preceding iterations, made for a great series of videos, leading up to this not rare, but still, iconic "Holy Grail" !
Indeed, how interesting, never heard of this one before...
@@MemorialRifleRangeWhat is this gimmicky design? The 1911... never heard of it! It will never catch on!😆
Single stack? How nouveau riche
This one is new to me I’m actually really interested in how odd this gun looks. We’ve never seen something like this before kinda explains though why it never caught on 😏
Finally, the full 1911 episode. Only way I will complain is if it is only 17 minutes long.
From the sounds of it these 2 hours are just the beginning too.
1911 minutes long.
WE MAKING IT OUT OF THE TRENCHES WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
This is a certified Colt Classic
Ha! I see what you did there. Take my like and get out please.
DAYUM SON whered you find this? We makin it out of Hartford with this one 👌
1:13:00 - It's me. I'm the debater.
York's division was issued the M1917, and he mentions that fact in his writings, but in a letter written by York to his old comrade James P. Cooper on Sept 20, 1920, York states:
"Say James do you remember that little Springfield rifle that you gave me as we went up to the front line. That is the rifle that I did my shooting with. I used it and my Colts pistol."
From what I'm told, James was transferred into York's regiment from a regular Army unit to help fill it out. The regular units were all issued 1903s.
I was honestly a little disappointed this episode wasn't on the well-known Schmitt Rubin's. But hearing the inspiring story of this humble little firearm and small manufacturer is incredibly heartwarming to see.
Thanks! Hard not to love a 1911... Only the Browning Hi-Power is up there with the 1911.
But the Hi-Power is a 9n/n makes a smaller hole. It is a nice gun but cannot compete with the 1911.
@@bunkstagner298it also holds twice as many rounds with about half the weight moving a lot faster. More ft/lbs per magazine in the hi-power.
I would agree, and even then it's in many ways an improved 1911 but it comes almost 25 years later down the road.
@@bunkstagner298 disagree.
The Hi-Power is what Browning thought the 1911 should have been.
John Moses Browning really was a genius. Not only is the 1911 functional, it's also gorgeous. Companies would not still be making it over 100 years later if it wasn't good.
He was a genius among geniuses. So many of his designs and ideas are being used well over a century later, and there’s no arguing that the 1911 is one of the most aesthetically pleasing “machines” man has ever created.
Like a Fender Stratocaster or Coke Bottle, it’s just a perfect blend of form and function.
And all the Glock fanboys call the 1911 a piece of junk. LOL
@@jamescooper2618well they drive Priuses to so…
Othias you have almost given us the development of the 1911 in real time we've waited so long.
Its not a dig you guys are awesome, that means you too bruno. You da real MVP.
I'm calling in sick the rest of the day to watch this.
The animation, whether done in cad or an art package, is absolutely superb.
I own a 1913 1911 Colt service .45. Can still dust a gnat’s ass at 25 yards with it. Rarely shoot but I actually shot it a couple months ago. It was my great grandfather’s WWl service pistol. Back in those days you could purchase your service pistol once your service obligations were over. He did that. It has 18 little tic marks on it for all the targets he successfully engaged during his involvement in trench warfare. I am the 4th member of my family to own this pistol. Myself & all previous family members were all veterans of military service. My grandfather gave me this wonderful piece when he started to get too old to even responsibly have a gun. My father was never in the military, so he got skipped over & I got it instead, in keeping with the tradition of staying in veteran hands. He was a little mad but he got over. Certainly my most prized possession. Love that pistol.
First introduced to this weapon at Fort Ord, CA in 1968 while in US Army. Fine weapon, used in Nam '68, helped bring me back home.
This video has answered so many questions about my own 1914 vintage 1914. I was told by a couple 1911 forums my pistol was just a parts gun. Seems that’s not the case at all whatsoever. I was also told that since my pistol is just a parts gun it’s only worth 700 to 800 bucks. Not that price is a big deal it was just they were trying to act like my pistol was nothing special. I don’t care who you are a pistol that dates back to 1914 is special. It’s literally 3 years after the original 1911 was released. I’ll never get rid of this pistol it’s simply the coolest thing ever to me.
It's been 84 years... And we are finally here. Glad to have been here since the c96 video. Worth all these years of support. And I'll wait patiently for more.
The time has finally come!
Thanks!
It's good to hear Americans acknowledge the influence the Luger had on the design of the 1911, specifically the ergonomy. (Yes, 1911 is the better gun, no denying that.)
It looks nondescript nowadays, while the Luger is much more easily recognisable.
Outstanding evaluation… thank you!
Proud owner of a 1918 manufactured 1911 that was refurbished for WWII. Still all matching despite having the wrong parkerization.
Thanks, now my skin is green from envy. I'll have to fend off Capt. Kirk with a stick thanks to you.
WE MAKING IT OUT OF THE TRENCHES WITH THIS ONE . Finally the moment all firearm enthusiasts have been waiting for.
OH MY GOD
It's finally happening!
Don't have time for a 2 Hour video right now but i'll absolutely watch tomorrow.
What's the procedure?
Your name would indicate you have no God
Watch Othias take it down cause that one "camera mistake" with May; that would be funny
I hope this video brings more people to the C&Rsenal channel and helps them grow further to keep this incredible channel going!
Given that the manual safety wsa an add-on to an existing design, it is truly amazing how well integrated it is...
The lanyard loop on the magazine was for cavalry use. Troopers had two (2) lanyards. One attached to the pistol so they would lose the pist while riding. And a second lanyard attached to the magazine so they would not lose the magazine when reloading the pistol while on horse back.
Never thought id see the day, I thought i would find out what the one piece was before the 1911 episode would be released
Sitting here listening to this episode while carrying my double stack .45ACP 1911. It really is pretty funny how this gun can still hang with modern designs once you simply add some accessories and a double stack frame on it. 15+1 flush fit .45ACP and 18+1 extended is in line with the recently released FN 545's capacities.
That has more to do with how little handguns have evolved since the 1911, though. There's more of a mechanical difference between the 1911 and a Luger than the 1911 and a Glock. Hell, 100 years before the 1911, we were still using flintlocks. Over 110+ years after the 1911, we're still using the same basic tilting barrel, short recoil mechanism with a slide that the 1911 pioneered.
That Webley pioneered.
It's truly amazing. Obviously there's some mechanical differences, but that tilting barrel is everywhere in modern semiautomatic handguns.
Living back then must have been amazing. Went from single shots to blackpowder revolvers, to cartridges revolvers, to semi-autos in 65 years
Double stack .45? Must be a fat grip
@@XuroX.
Modern hand sized. 😊
I had a Colt 1911 Government model made for commercial sale in 1917. Well, I still have it but it’s unusable and nothing what it was. It was a pretty rare 1911 since it was a commercial 1911 built in a year when 99% of the 1911s were made for the US Army. Only a few thousand were sold to the public. This particular gun was in 99% condition since the old guy I bought it from, who bought it new, might have shot less than a few hundred rounds and the only wear was on the very tip of the muzzle where it rubbed the holster it spent it’s life in. The spot was barely noticeable and pretty tiny.
Sadly, in 2011, my home was lost, along with 1300 others in a wildfire. So all of my guns were exposed to hours of fire. Unlike the modern polymer pistols, the metal was still there but it’s lost all its strength and surface treating. By the time they let us onto our property a week later what was left was a rusty mess.
But until then it was a great pistol. I got to use it for a couple decades and treated it like the great weapon it was. I still have it. But it’s not a shooter anymore.
I also lost a Colt New Service chambered in 44Russian of similar era. She was bought from the same old guy. Colt made some fine guns back then.
I’ve built 2 rifles from fires very nasty ones . A polish 1969 ak and a psa m4 both were rusted to death and very hot all springs just a weeping mess the ar aluminum was melted. The ar had a fn barrel I’ve fired 2600 rds from it and it’s holding up as it it were never in a fire. The polish ak I’ve fired over 1k rounds with no visible difference to the bolt lugs. I think the metal fatigue is over stated. I fired the ar the most at I reload and it’s cheaper to load and I made those round very hot. I didn’t have a chrono and loaded em until the primers would crater a little. If u have those guns I’d build em back ceracoat theyll shoot fine
Well folks we've made it to the peak of Guntubing.
Ladies and Gentleman finally after 8 years of waiting its Finally here.
I have, of course, heard John Moses Browning described as a mechanical genius an uncountable number of times, but it's the detailed discussion and animation of all the features of this gun, in such direct comparison to all the guns that went before it, that made me understand his genius...
Then emphasized by how smoothly and quickly those features enabled Mae to shoot it!
orignal 1911 best looking pistol ever! always wanted a pre ww1 model
Thank you for telling the full 1911 lineage and story. In this world of instant gratification it would have been tempting to jump straight to it. Having the full build up, and more to come was the right way to do it.
"There's people watching this show who bought one this week."
Guilty as charged.
I was going to, but I looked in the safe and all 11 of them seemed to be getting along with each other so why mess with success?
This was the longest tease in YT history, at least what I can remember. :-)
Good job folks, it was worth it.
I still carry a 1911 , not a pure one, obviously but with just a little refinement from the one you have. The design has stayed relevant for over a century, which is remarkable.
It’s here boys!
When I saw Model of 1911 I thought these was going to be about the Berthier Machine Rifle, and not this obscure hunk of Yankee steel... Huh, you learn something every day
Adjusted for inflation $15.60 for the magazine and $444.50 for the pistol
That's a price even I could afford. Sadly, I'm sure I would have to order 20 000 of them to get such a price. 😀
@@mortisCZooor you can order an RIA or TISAS 1911, they're roughly that price
Like a lockheed constellation, the 1911 just *looks* right.
From a non shooting viewpoint, C&Rsenal seems very good.
Wow, wonder where you can buy one! Must be pretty rare!
Yeah, it's a shame no one makes them anymore. 😢
1:38:47 Which makes this show invaluable to us creatives who want that crunch of realism in the media we create thank you for doing it this way!
The most anticipated video in TH-cam history
OH MY GOD ITS FINALLY HERE ITS NOT A DRILL ITS ACTUALLY HERE!
Yes finaly
One of the most comfortable pistols I've eve had the pleasure of firing. I even find the grip more comfortable than the Browning Hi-Power. I have fairly small hands aand find the Browning grip too wide to be comfortable yet the 1911 fits me perfectly. The apparent muzzle heaviness tends to make the recoil feel much milder than it really is. It's great to see a discussion between two people so knowledgeable about firearms.
It's only taken you 10 years to get here. Congrats.
Now M1 Garand WHEN?!?!
We legit talked about that on the podcast last night
The what now?
I have been waiting for this like you wouldn't believe.
I can't believe I lived to see this.
Oh how I am impressed at 2hrs and then constant string of references to “next episode”. Going to be good times in C&Rsenal land.
All this setup for the Browning Hi-Power! Yay!
Plus the Tokarev, the French 1935S and A, Star 1920-21, Star Destroyer, Star Model A&B (both super and non super), CZ 75 and possibly even the S&W 39/59 series.
@@Ben_not_10and S&W 52?
I own many Browning designs from over a dozen 1911’s to a beltfed 1919 but I’ve never owned a High Power. Gota work on that.
Outstanding! Out fooking standing! My favorite Uncle (Sam) made me very familiar with this pistol over forty years ago, and this is the most comprehensive video I have seen about it. Thanks for the many hours it took to put this together - I learned a lot. Bravo Zulu
Let’s goooooooo it’s 1911 time.
Its happening!
Its finally happening!
Theyre talking about rhe most underrated Gem of a firearm
I’m not sure I’d call the 1911 underrated…
@@TenaciousTrilobiteit's been a running joke on this channel for YEARS
One of the top comments here says a really similar thing lol
@@TenaciousTrilobitealso
Love your video on the 1895
Literally my favorite lever guns
Can't wait for the episodes leading up to the M1911A1.
Thank you for all he hard work putting this together. Still watching but I'm happy this is finally here and DONE RIGHT!
Another great episode! Can't wait for the next few to finish out the story on the 1911.
I’m happy we got the 2 hour video. Gives it the time it needs and deserves
Oh jeez, not another vid about the 1911, I wish they would explore more obscure stuff like the Ruby or the Reichsrevolver....😎
You could watch another BS Glock video.
All jokes about the 1911's well-known obscurity aside, making this episode now - with the vast experience you have gained producing this channel - does the subject credit.
Outstanding content yet again. Kudos!
Ok Glock fan boy.
There's no way this crazy pistol ever existed... nice joke Othias. Would have been hugely popular though.
Yea I think the Glock won WW2.
Thank you for your continued immense effort in bringing us this fantastic show!
Part 2 will be Othias pulling every other handgun ever reviewed on the show out from under a hole in the floor and comparing them to the 1911......
Ladies and gentlemen, it's finally here. 8 years of C&Rsenal have led to this.
8 years of growth too, our production levels now vs then are WAY better!
We've finally made it to the end of the road to 1911.
It's wild how many issues that modern trigger discipline solves.
Thanks guys, the prices of these little known pistols are going to go through the roof now that's its been exposed.
no doubt. glad I got a half dozen stored away in my secret vault in my basement under my stairs.....
Mike B. : *Autistically screeching*
In the draft of 1917, a man from Tennessee
Overseas to the trenches he went, from the land of the free
Into war he brought two things along, a rifle and his faith
Join the ranks as a private, assigned to 338th
There on that day, Alvin York
Entered the fray
Saving the day
82nd all the way
Literally been waiting years for this.
Thank you! This has been so much fun with you guys, looking forward to more.
Thank u very much im gonna keep watching yall kick ass
Othais and his pistol parade, he was so proud of himself
It's been a long journey, but we got there!
This episode is not helping my desire to buy a 1911. Thank you so much for your all your hard work!
Having followed C&Rsenal from the beginning, I will be forced to admit that it was, in fact worth waiting for this episode. Othais and team have become first-rate historians. Two quick observations: First it's actually very easy to rack a 1911 (or other slide-operated gun with sights), one-handed. I was trained to do so in the Navy, but I'm not sure when that was first officially taught. Second, notice the group that Mae shot, one-handed, not rapid but not slow-fire either. Compare that group to all the others over the years. This from an over one hundred-year old gun. While I don't quite worship at the altar of the 1911 and the .45 ACP for use in today's world, I will agree that this pistol was the hands-down BEST fighting handgun of WW1. Can't wait for the day when they get to the improved version: The Browning/Saive High Power!
Long-awaited and anticipated with a sort of manic confidence by those who follow this crew. Unsurprisingly they've delivered not only good TV, but this is also a thorough A/V documentary---almost academic in its rigor. Plus, it's obviously a future historical documenT. 👍👍❤❤👍👍
Every once in a while a gun is developed that changes everything. The Henry, the Peacemaker, the Mauser K98. The Colt Government Model .45 did this so hard that most guns that came after it still take insperation from it. The 1911 is iconic as all those others, and can still be considered a modern pistol. I would personally say that the next major pistol development would be about 70 years later with the Glock striker fire and polymer construction.
Some may say it is sacrilage to mention the Glock and the 1911 in the same breath, but I would say they are the 2 most influencial pistols ever.
The Colt 1873 and the K98k each changed very little, though
I never thought we’d see this day!
The most anticipated episode. Worth the wait
1 thing I never loved about 1911 is the abundance of parts, especially ones that come off, or pop off seperately for field strip. More stuff to break, lose, or go wrong then some other designs in modern times or even prior to 1911
It's here, it's big and it's outta control! The gun is good too.
Another piece of info & quality. I learned plenty. Despite the “ damn. I should Never have sold that Para Expert!” “ just turn it off!”
The Army put one of these in my hands some 50 yrs ago, and I've kept a couple of them ever since.
Great animation, the pace and narration, right on point.,.
"Babe, come quick! C&Rsenal finally did the thing!"
great content
JMB was pure genius
I want to say that the 1911 did contribute to handgun ergonomics, though perhaps not as overall big picture as the Luger, the safety lever on the 1911 is just nearly perfect. Its in the right spot and its pivot point, sweep, and positive retention are all practically unimproveable. The Luger safety is frankly in the wrong direction. Its awkward to use vs the 1911 which says alot about how well Browning integrated that thumb safety as the Luger safety is a lot better than many of its contemporaries but the 1911 safety is just that much better.
Perhaps some say that its irrelevant today because so many pistols no longer have thumb safeties but compared to the market low point for single action autoladers being in the 1980s the single action pistol has been making a strong comeback and the 2011 is very much winning over younger shooters as the design is refined and simplified to meet duty/defense standards of reliability. Ironically over 100 years on it seems the 1911 has evolved into a pistol that maintains its presence in duty use and the original single stack was still being used by certain units well into the Global War On Terror not to mention its undying popularity among civilians for concealed carry use as its slim profile betrays its full size status.
It never ceases to amaze me how popular and beloved this gun still is.
I think a testament to the 1911 safety design is the current US service pistol, adopted only a few years ago, uses a 1911 style thumb safety where up is safe and down is fire. Hell, it even uses the tilting barrel mechanism. So in some ways, the M17 and M18 are just modernized, updated 1911s.
@@gameragodzilla What is old is new again, the bore axis, the grip angle, the controls placement, the m17 and m18 are more like a 1911 than it's striker fired mechanism would have one thinking at first glance.
@@Full_Otto_Bismarck Yup. Granted, I honestly think the fact that the 1911 sticks around for so long stems more from how little handgun technology has actually evolved in the last 100 years than anything else. Most pistols still use a tilting barrel, short recoil action with a slide, even if it's slightly modified with the Webley style locking block, so the only thing the 1911 in its base form lacks is features. And features can easily be bolted onto the same basic design.
Hell, as you mentioned, the 2011 is basically that. Capacity too low? Put on a double stack frame. Sights are shitty? Replace them with high vis night sights or even mount a red dot. Can't mount accessories? Put a rail on the dust cover. Gun too heavy? You can have a polymer grip module and even alloy frames. Pretty much anything and everything can be added to the basic design and still keep up with modern guns. My current EDC is a double stack 1911, though mine's built off an all metal Para frame both because I prefer the heavier weight for recoil management (even have an aluminum grip module for my P320) and higher capacity options in .45ACP. 15+1 flush fit of .45 is a lot of firepower. lol
It was created by the most prolific gun designer in the history of mankind. John Moses Browning. No other gun inventors come close to him. It will be relevant in 2111.
@@craigthescott5074
Quite likely, especially when anyone looks across J. M. B. catalog of designs from this though the belt feeding machine guns. Including the Mag-58 / M-240 that is really a BAR flipped upside down with belt feeding system added.
Wow, suoer comprehensive video. First time watching and I am impressed!
finally God's pistol makes an appearance
9 years 😭😭 we waited 9 years 😭😭 it’s finally here!
Masterful summation of the road to the 1911. Thanks folks. I'm not sure when I started watching your show but my small contribution is repaid many times over. Please continue.
Somebody make a an AI improved version of the scenes in Lawrence of Arabia where Lawrence uses his pistol. It would be more historically accurate if he used a 1911 as that's what he carried.
Umm
I got to look that up
@@tomhenry897 not hard to find. sightm1911.com/lib/history/telawrence.htm
IT’S HAPPENING!!!!
This episode JUST MADE MY DAY!!😀😀😀👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼