I am going to order a couple of packs in the not so distant future! Awesome broadheads!!! Thank you to the family for continuing the company. I have a feeling they are going to take off in a big way! Thank you John. Take care and God bless.
@@stick__shooter most likely! It should be a great addition to the lineup, I liked the size of the old 1.7, but was never a fan of the aluminum ferrule and always preferred the tip on the titaniums and Robusto.
I agree. A sharpness test along any side of the tip would have proven that. This is a puncture tip, plain and simple. Not sure why he continues to call these muzzy-type tips cut-on-impact.
Well, I measure the cut of any cross cut tip like that, just to be consistent. Like a Sevr, for example, that cross cutting tip is making a cut, just as a bleeder would...maybe not as sharp, but cutting nonetheless. If a 3 blade chisel tip all lines up with the cutting blades, then I do not count that, because it's already being counted in the blade cutting diameter. Should I deduct the portion of the blade cutting diameter that is taken up by such a chisel tip? So if a tip has more cutting edges than blades, then it is "cutting" more tissue and should be accounted for. I'm just trying to be consistent.
I am definitely liking these Broadheads,, And i'm putting some serious thought behind purchasing some for this coming season,, I would like to see a video if it's out there of someone using these broadheads out of a High speed crossbow,, ( What are your thoughts and opinion about using them and a crossbow) Considering I have several (5) and all average 405 fps(4) and 1 @ 410 fps, Bolt weight is a minimum 525 g and a maximum 575g, This weight includes A lighted nock,, 25g less without it
@Lusk Archery Adventures Well, I do thank you for your input. I appreciate it. However, if you would be willing to send me 1 of those, I would be willing to do some small testing on it. With exception to the cinder block and the gel, I'd be willing to do the rest of the tests, spin, flight, accuracy, penetration, angle shot, and make a video of it as well, I do have several crossbows including but not limited to Mission Sub 1-XR (410 fps). and a Killer Instinct Swat X1 l405 fps). Also the Killer Instinct Fatal X (405 fps). and a Killer Instinct Furious Pro 9.5 (400 fps). Bolt weight would average between 550 and 600 grains. I would really be interested to see how it would performe out of my Mission Sub 1XR crossbow and my Swat X1 crossbow.
It’s not imperative, especially for flight. You will maximize the rotation if your vanes are attached helically the same way your arrow naturally rotates out of the bow. When that is also in synch with the bevel angle, then that will maximize rotation upon and thru impact. But if your vanes are right helical and the bevel is right helical, that is plenty, regardless of the natural rotation out of the bow.
I did consider that, several times. But the challenge is having a place with consistent ambient noise...and a distance that does not confuse the sound of the shot or impact with the sound of the arrow flying by. I do not have that kind of facility.
I look for a few things. Flite obviously, cutting diameter for blood, toughness for durability. This head and it's bigger brother max out all the above for me. Massive tip and ferrule, makes for a huge hole opening that permits ease of arrow penetration with less friction, therefore I feel better chance of a pass thru, and a pass thru is part of the end game isn't it ? Without question, IMHO I score both these heads as A+++. Next up John ? Iron Will has a new wide cut single bevel with a bleeder. Looks like a freight train. Try to get a test on those after you smoke a Brownie or Grizz. Good luck and safe adventures, those bad boys the Grizzlies get rambunctious, Brownies too fat from eating salmon all day to chase after you unless a sow has a couple youngins. You're safer on Brownie's for sure. lol
Tooth or the arrow is still best for me flies the same as my field points which was a surprise no adjustments at all and the sharpening systems are super easy and they are a strong head also they penetrate through my whole block target my friend shoots kudu heads and they only go in about 8” so it is far superior also he has to adjust his as the kudu doesn’t fly like field point
It’s because without that cut, they are their full 1.5” cutting diameter. You can either use those blades or these that are cut off, and thus have a 1.25” cutting diameter. The shorter blades give better flight & penetration; the wider blades make bigger holes.
Another winner winner! The large diameter ferrule has to reduce drag through tissue or bone I’m thinking. Gotta be a no fail pass thru head. Now, I’ve got another head to try on some hogs. 👍👍
I don’t know if I can narrow that down. So much of it is based on each individual set up and shot distance and animal being pursued. But in my scoring, you can see the highest scoring Broadheads in the last two years on the score sheet.
Bow seams pretty loud even in your bear hunt video, also broadheads are fatter diameter than arrow and that’s never good.especially when retrieving from target .But durable for sure.
Well, not sure how you can evaluate the bow noise from a video :) Camera’s mic is right next to the bow, I’m in a wooden box blind that captures the sound, and I amplified the sound 200% for the video. But thanks for the observation.
I am going to order a couple of packs in the not so distant future! Awesome broadheads!!! Thank you to the family for continuing the company. I have a feeling they are going to take off in a big way! Thank you John. Take care and God bless.
Thank you!
Wow! That is one wicked broadhead! Man Mr. Lusk, you have been testing some great broadheads this year! Choices, Choices, Choices?????
Right?
Awesome performance! Looking forward to seeing how the new sevr 1.75 does.
I'm guessing it flies better and penetrates better than the 2.0, but not as well as the 1.5 😆
@@stick__shooter most likely! It should be a great addition to the lineup, I liked the size of the old 1.7, but was never a fan of the aluminum ferrule and always preferred the tip on the titaniums and Robusto.
It did very well. Did you watch the video?
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I did, they definitely have a winner!
I’m of the mindset that we should not be counting the tip as cutting edge. I don’t believe it would be able to slice filament like a blade.
I agree, at least with that style of tip. Other styles that actually create a slit should be counted, even if they aren’t necessarily razor sharp.
right, i think it will stretch some flesh just like your arrow shaft will do, but i dont think it will do any slicing.
I agree. A sharpness test along any side of the tip would have proven that. This is a puncture tip, plain and simple. Not sure why he continues to call these muzzy-type tips cut-on-impact.
Well, I measure the cut of any cross cut tip like that, just to be consistent.
Like a Sevr, for example, that cross cutting tip is making a cut, just as a bleeder would...maybe not as sharp, but cutting nonetheless.
If a 3 blade chisel tip all lines up with the cutting blades, then I do not count that, because it's already being counted in the blade cutting diameter. Should I deduct the portion of the blade cutting diameter that is taken up by such a chisel tip?
So if a tip has more cutting edges than blades, then it is "cutting" more tissue and should be accounted for.
I'm just trying to be consistent.
Got to be the best fixed blade head I've ever seen tested! That thing screams crossbow me please
They are pretty nice!
That's a awesome broadhead
Yep!
I really like these. Might have to try them.
:)
This year already is providing a lot of great options. 👍
Right? And more to come!
I am definitely liking these Broadheads,, And i'm putting some serious thought behind purchasing some for this coming season,, I would like to see a video if it's out there of someone using these broadheads out of a High speed crossbow,, ( What are your thoughts and opinion about using them and a crossbow) Considering I have several (5) and all average 405 fps(4) and 1 @ 410 fps, Bolt weight is a minimum 525 g and a maximum 575g, This weight includes A lighted nock,, 25g less without it
I think they’d work very well out of a crossbow. But I don’t have one so I’m no expert.
@Lusk Archery Adventures Well, I do thank you for your input. I appreciate it. However, if you would be willing to send me 1 of those, I would be willing to do some small testing on it. With exception to the cinder block and the gel, I'd be willing to do the rest of the tests, spin, flight, accuracy, penetration, angle shot, and make a video of it as well, I do have several crossbows including but not limited to Mission Sub 1-XR (410 fps). and a Killer Instinct Swat X1 l405 fps). Also the Killer Instinct Fatal X (405 fps). and a Killer Instinct Furious Pro 9.5 (400 fps). Bolt weight would average between 550 and 600 grains. I would really be interested to see how it would performe out of my Mission Sub 1XR crossbow and my Swat X1 crossbow.
Wow!
Right?
YEA BOY!!
Thanks Lusk!
:)
Does anyone know how to send him broad heads to test?
My address is 2502 Sun Grove Road, Melissa, TX 75454. I just need at least 3 new heads to do a proper test.
Do I have to have right/left helical fletching in order to get proper flight?
It’s not imperative, especially for flight. You will maximize the rotation if your vanes are attached helically the same way your arrow naturally rotates out of the bow. When that is also in synch with the bevel angle, then that will maximize rotation upon and thru impact.
But if your vanes are right helical and the bevel is right helical, that is plenty, regardless of the natural rotation out of the bow.
Which has more forgiving flight between this and trifecta fixed?
Trifecta Fixed for sure; one of the very best flying heads there is. But this one flew very well too.
What an awesome broadhead. A bit to heavy of a head for my setup but it looks sweet
Yep.
Have you have tried to include the noise of the broadhead in testing? Maybe have a microphone with a decibel meter at five yards or so?
I did consider that, several times. But the challenge is having a place with consistent ambient noise...and a distance that does not confuse the sound of the shot or impact with the sound of the arrow flying by. I do not have that kind of facility.
I look for a few things. Flite obviously, cutting diameter for blood, toughness for durability. This head and it's bigger brother max out all the above for me. Massive tip and ferrule, makes for a huge hole opening that permits ease of arrow penetration with less friction, therefore I feel better chance of a pass thru, and a pass thru is part of the end game isn't it ?
Without question, IMHO I score both these heads as A+++.
Next up John ? Iron Will has a new wide cut single bevel with a bleeder. Looks like a freight train. Try to get a test on those after you smoke a Brownie or Grizz.
Good luck and safe adventures, those bad boys the Grizzlies get rambunctious, Brownies too fat from eating salmon all day to chase after you unless a sow has a couple youngins. You're safer on Brownie's for sure. lol
Thank you brother.
I'd be interested if it were about 75 grains lighter. 200 is alot ß
That’s the only way you get good strength unfortunately
Yeah, they like to keep the durability high.
Tooth or the arrow is still best for me flies the same as my field points which was a surprise no adjustments at all and the sharpening systems are super easy and they are a strong head also they penetrate through my whole block target my friend shoots kudu heads and they only go in about 8” so it is far superior also he has to adjust his as the kudu doesn’t fly like field point
They are great heads.
Awesome head but I don't see the reasons why cut off the ends of blades
It’s because without that cut, they are their full 1.5” cutting diameter. You can either use those blades or these that are cut off, and thus have a 1.25” cutting diameter. The shorter blades give better flight & penetration; the wider blades make bigger holes.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures correct for Whitetail deer though I'd rather have the bigger cut
Another winner winner! The large diameter ferrule has to reduce drag through tissue or bone I’m thinking. Gotta be a no fail pass thru head. Now, I’ve got another head to try on some hogs. 👍👍
They are really good!
What’s the best 125 gr . Fixed blade & mechanical that you’ve tested ?
I don’t know if I can narrow that down. So much of it is based on each individual set up and shot distance and animal being pursued. But in my scoring, you can see the highest scoring Broadheads in the last two years on the score sheet.
Nice BH but wish they made a lighter version, I'll continue using exodus for now, maybe forever
Yeah, a little thinner and lighter would be nice.
But will it kill a bear??? 🐻
Yep.
Bow seams pretty loud even in your bear hunt video, also broadheads are fatter diameter than arrow and that’s never good.especially when retrieving from target .But durable for sure.
Well, not sure how you can evaluate the bow noise from a video :) Camera’s mic is right next to the bow, I’m in a wooden box blind that captures the sound, and I amplified the sound 200% for the video. But thanks for the observation.
Very nice
Yes exodus on steroids lol
:)
better hope you don't hit any bone with that fat tip
If you have enough momentum, it actually breaks bone quite well.