2024 RX350: WORLDS better than the hybrid, but still no match for the old V6
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2024
- Hey guys! I’ve gotten a chance to drive the RX350 with the base, non-hybrid RX350 with the 2.4L turbo I4 and put it through its paces so let’s chat all about the RX that I think is the one to buy.
Watch the quick drive of the RX350h here: • 2023 RX350h | First im...
VIDEO CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
01:26 Interior fit, finish and design
05:25 On the road with the turbo 4
16:16 Final thoughts - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Agree with you 100% Josh. Between the turbo lag, harshness of the hybrid CVT, and poor choice of interior materials, this is not the same old RX we all knew from Lexus. There is no luxury or refinement here. Same issues are even more pronounced in the TX. Lexus cut a lot of costs, but raised prices and needs calling out. Not enough TH-camr car reviewers are holding Lexus/Toyota to task. Appreciate what you posted.
Thank you for watching! And regarding the TX, that was exactly what I was just thinking-that if this engine is just enough for the RX, I wouldn’t want to drive it in the bigger, heavier TX. And I completely agree at the lack of luxury and refinement and that it’s not the same RX we have always known!
100% agree!
@@joshjamescars Appreciate your honest review and agree completely w/ your assessment. My parents owned several lexus and had an RX for 11 yrs. But the recent RX felt cheap, underpowered, loud and overpriced. My dad ended up getting a cadillac lyriq. software issues aside, the lyriq was much cheaper (after incentives), much quieter, much more powerful, rode much softer, etc.
What kind of issues is the TX having? I wouldn't want the base turbo engine in that vehicle but was thinking about a 500h or even the 550h+.
@@fossilmaker5745 The 500h is the Hybrid Max using 6-speed. There have been transmission failures. Not sure if the problems have been resolved as of March 2024. The 550h+ is the V6 hybrid that was on previous gen RXLh, but harder to find.
I do sure miss the old RX's!! Still have my 2006 as a backup car!
The new Lexus has had nice tech, but I feel the old Lexus NA cars are just more refined with the rides. I love the smoothness of those engines. We love collecting all the V8 engines that Toyota/Lexus has. 4.6, 5.0, and a couple of 5.7 V8 engines.
I’m with you! We’ve managed to wrangle the last 2GR V6 and my GX’s 1UR V8.
You are an excellent reviewer because you relate the car's behaviour to everyday situations, and comment on the experience of doing it.
Thank you!
Love your videos. Enjoyable to watch and very informative.
Thank you! Glad they’ve been helpful to you!
I thoroughly enjoyed this review👍
Thank you as always for coming back and watching!!!
OMG the turbo confusion is the same on my VW Taos, as you described. I am glad I am not the only one having the same turbo lag problem. Especially in stop and go downtown driving. I always enjoy your videos. Keep them coming!
Thank you! This is actually very common behavior for little 3 and 4-cylinder turbo engines. The 3-cylinder turbo in the Nissan Rogue behaves exactly the same way. They’re not meant for great driving they’re meant for sipping fuel and minimizing emissions.
Another awesome review! 😎
Thank you! And thank you as always for watching!
Great review Josh. Very thorough. I’m currently looking to replace my 5th gen 4Runner with the new Land Cruiser but with all the 4-cylinder turbo issues I’ve been hearing, I’m starting to think of just getting another 5th NA V6. Hope to see a Land Cruiser review from you soon.
I would without hesitation buy a 5th gen 4Runner or better yet snag one of the very last brand new 2023 GXs that are still floating around out there! I think that would be a great upgrade to your 4Runner.
Awesome review Josh! 100% agree with you! I still have the 2020 RX350, the V6 and 8 speed are so refined and smooth. I also prefer the 2020 interior than the new generation. I remember watching Lexus Cambridge manufacture video, the person speaks how they choose one piece of wood for one RX car to keep the wood grain and patent match, that kind of luxury or refinement is gone! I feel Lexus cuts so much corners just to make more cheaper cars, raises price at the same time😂 I really appreciate your video!
Hello! I LOVED the outgoing RX like yours and actually I have loved every single RX up until this new generation which is why I think these new ones make me so sad because it was always a car that felt so special even though it was a mass market, high volume vehicle. As you say, Lexus always paid such attention or the details of the wood grain and the RX always has unique button banks and specially crafted interior trim. These new RXs feel very mass produced without that care and attention to detail. At a higher price no less! Thank you for coming back and watching!!
Thank you sweet man Josh. I still have my 1999 Prizm, 2000 Sienna, and 2004 Highlander.
I love the Prism!!! That and the Vibe were such unique cars being based on Toyotas but with GM badging!
I have had it 20 years. Some things don't work anymore: AC, POWER Door Locks, AND EMERGENCY BRAKE BUT ENGINE AND TRANNY ARE FINE. CRANK WINDOWS! I LIVE IN MINNESOTA SO I DONT NEED AC ANYWAY
Turned in our 2022 ES350 for a 2024 RX350H luxury. The RX to me is 100 percent a better driving car than the ES which only had 11000 miles.
Have a 22 RX 350, I agree with everything you’ve said. Had a loaner pp for a full day. 21 inch wheels look great but the car was shaking on the right side at certain speeds. I hate that loud engine.
Hi Josh 👋 I really enjoy your videos. I’m glad you mentioned smaller wheels / bigger tires! As much as I like the appearance of large wheels, low profile tires aren’t as comfortable on the road. But if I want a higher trim vehicle because I want say, HUD & 360 camera, the wheels also get bigger and voila…low or lower profile tires. I’m going to jump over to Mazda CX-5 as an example. I really like their top signature trim. But if I want the gorgeous midnight blue exterior paint with white interior, I think you get 17” wheels but I can’t get other bells & whistles 😅
totally agree. I much prefer smaller wheels with better ride and pothole protection. Depending on the car, you could probably get the smaller wheels used for not much money. Or ppl would be willing to swap / trade up for the larger wheels. I have done that a couple times as I also like the feature content of the higher trim, just not the bigger wheels.
Hello to both of you! I completely agree about taller profile tires and smaller wheels giving you a better ride. I think that’s why my GX rides so well too. To @Wasabi9111’s point, you can search for “new car takeoff wheels” for your car and they’re usually readily available for a decent price on eBay.
thanks for the interesting video. I am keen to test the turbo 4 in the new Tacoma.
Hi Josh, love your videos. I have a 350h and with the instant response of the electric motor , I find it's plenty for me. (Electric motor instant assist vs turbo lag you mentioned.) When I bought my car in early 2023, the 350h and 350 were the same price and mostly @ MSRP. With that and the 1/3 better MPG I would still go with the 350h a year ago. Fast forward to 2024 and you will find much better deals on the 350 gas only, up to 8-10% off MSRP so that voids the gas savings of the 350h. I wanted the smaller 19" wheels but found it impossible to find a premium plus model that had them. I think the 21's are more attractive but agree the 19's would probably ride softer.
Hi Jim! I think the 350h is a great choice for anyone who has efficiency as their top priority! And like you say, the instant electric assist is MUCH more enjoyable than the lag from this turbo/8-speed setup in city driving. And that’s very interesting to hear about the street prices of the hybrid versus the turbo. I think both are still very popular in my market so I haven’t seen the discounts you’re seeing but I’m glad to hear that discounts are coming back! As others have said, if you do end up wanting the smaller wheels you can find them readily available on eBay as new car takeoffs that you could then swap onto your car. Cheers!
I think Lexus knows they lowered the overall quality of the RX, and then they will boost it up again after the mid cycle refresh, just as they have done with the last generation. I can personally say the 2020-2022 is way better than the 2016-2019. It’s silly that they just can’t break out of the gate with a high quality product to begin with.
That’s interesting! I hadn’t personally noticed that, but this new RX is way below either of those in terms of interior design and materials.
Thanks for your review!
I got to try the RX500h F-sport handling package today as a loaner while my 2021 RX F-sport was getting maintenance.
I really liked the suspension and handling. It isn’t as floaty as both my 2016 and 2021 models.
Didn’t like the weird interior door handles and way too complicated transmission shifter. I would probably get used to it.
Also the large front brake calipers should be painted something other than black.
I also agree the interior quality isn’t up to older Lexus standards.
Yes! I definitely agree about the handling and suspension. I still don’t care for the Hybrid Max/500h powertrain, though. I think the V6 like what’s in your 2016 and 2021 is both more refined and smooth but also has a more linear and solid pull to it. And yes at the interior! Especially in the 500h which is a $70k car I expect way more than what you get.
You are smart Josh.
Thank you, Jeffrey! As are you!
Hi Josh, you did a fantastic job doing this review. I’m subscribing now. I have had Lexus vehicles since my 1997 ES 350. It was totaled by another driver running a stop sign with 187k or I would still have it today. I now have a 2010 ES with 73k and my wife has a 2016 RX 350 with 53k and the safety+ options. Love these cars! We will keep them for a long time especially since what Lexus is doing now. Very much let down by Lexus. I plan on keeping the two Lexus’s that we have now like I said and buying a 2020-2022 RX as well. Or, an Acura MDX. We have had two Acuras in the past and liked them too. What is your opinion? Buy the 2020-2022 RX or the MDX? Thanks much!
Hello! And thank you so much for the kind words! I would absolutely keep the vehicles you have now, those are both terrific! Between the two you list there I think it would depend on whether buying new is important or not. If so, obviously go with the MDX. But if not, I love the last generation RX. Another thing to consider is, if you like your ES this is probably the last year to get a V6 ES and you can get a fully loaded Ultra Luxury trim for the same price as a low-trim MDX.
You were smart to get the GX.
Thank you! And yes, I’m so glad I did. I’m going to keep it for as long as you’ve kept your Highlander and Prizm! Hopefully in as good condition as you have kept yours too! ;)
Another great video Josh, as always thank you for your in-depth and insightful review of the new 23/24' RX350.
Unfortunately it seems right now in this current time everything is becoming LESS for $ MORE $ . I did have a loaner 23' RX and while it was nice , I was not taken away by it. I as well felt the punchy and louder notes of the 4 cylinder and I thought the push button doors are gimmicky, however when I did not push the new style RX, it was alright. Currently i own a 2022 RX and I am extremely thankful and happy with it, to the point where if someone said I'll give you an even swap for the NEW RX , I would politely turn it down and remain with the 22'. I always look forward to your content Josh and thank you for bringing the GOOD 411 on what's really going on with our friends over at LEXUS, thank you.
Thank you! And thanks as always for coming back and watching! I could not agree more about the even swap. That’s exactly how I feel about my GX versus the new one. Just like you I wouldn’t give up my old Lexus quality and wonderful smooth engine for the new one which is less all around.
@@joshjamescars so well said
@@joshjamescars my daily driver is a 2016 Lexus ES 350 with over 300k milage; to be honest best vehicle I've ever owned. Could not phantom giving it away for a newer 1 , I just had a couple of clients ride in the rear seats , and they both fell asleep..... Definitely a smooth operator
Hi,,,thanks for the reply. My lease on the 2021 lexus es250 is coming due next year. I was really unimpressed with the 4 cyclinder (I was curios since I switched my lease from a 2018 RX350 to the es250 awd) The 4 cyclinder is super slow...I had to change my driving style and think ahead before overtaking, unlike the rx350 with the V6. I am coming to the conclusion to just buy a used 2022 used rx350 with the V6 instead of buing the new rx350 with the 4 cyclinder. Its a shame...I was always a fan of the RX350 but the 4 cyclinder is making me pause where I should go now???
I think the 2022 RX is absolutely one to get if you can find a good, low mileage CPO (always have it inspected by a third party mechanic too, even if it’s CPO). Or, if you want to go new, the Acura MDX still has a V6, is VERY nice to drive, and I think looks MUCH better than the RX. The Infiniti QX60 would also be an option. Nissan’s VQ-series V6 is a proven motor just like Toyota’s GR-series V6 and and now that the QX60 has a proper 9 speed auto and not a CVT, I think that’s a really compelling package. The interior looks great too.
Thanks you have given me quite a few choices beyond Lexus and thanks fir that
I had a 2023 RX350 and sold it for a 23 GX. There's a lot of cost cutting on the new RX. A lot people praise the new interior but it's only surface level first glance. Door handle area has hard touch plastic and then cheap rubbery material on inside. The previous gen much more unique center console, with real buttons and the analog clock. They saved a lot of money by tacking on the giant screen, no craftsmanship necessary. The turbo engine is responsive but I'd rather have the V6. The GX is also noticeably better made with no rattles even though it's much larger, it's built super solid. Below 65, I actually think my GX is quieter.
Yes! Our GX is definitely quieter at all speeds. I drove my GX back to back with this RX and it’s night and day. And you’re spot on about the unique center console and real buttons too.
This is the 2024...not the same
@dreamlife808 The 2023 and 2024 RX are the same new-generation model with no changes other than the improvements I noticed in the powertrain.
Hey Josh - I drove a 2024 RX350h from dealer. Just curious. Very quiet and smooth at 70 km/hr. But the new Mazda products are just as quiet and smooth. What is your opinion of Mazda3 2019 + and CX-30/CX-5? CX-5 has acoustic windshield and double pane front doors so it's as good as Lexus for half the cost (GX AWD is $34k CAD vs $64k CAD b4 taxes)
I like Mazda but their reliability is hit or miss depending on model. CX-5 is solid because it’s been around so long but CX-50 and CX-90 are having issues since they’re so new. Also, Mazda resale isn’t as good as Toyota so you pay more over the long term simply because of depreciation. On the plus side, Mazda’s ride and handling is usually the best in class which Mazda buyers think is worth the trade off in resale. Personally their cars don’t really interest me but I’m not their target demographic. :)
Maybe this is why some brand like Mazda are still rocking V6/6 inlines!
100%! Plus Honda/Acura, Nissan, and the Americans.
I had the latest RX350 as a loaner (right here at Lexus of Austin) when I had regular maintenance on my 19 GS350. I think around town the car is pretty nice but with my driving style I think I would need to get something with more instant power. Like you said, traffic conditions are dynamic and having to plan out 2-3 seconds ahead could mean squeezing in a space or being stuck behind grandma.
13:30 the dreaded intersection at the Domain where no one knows whose turn it is or thinks it's their turn.
14:03 I hate this merge too
Yes! Completely agree with this. And your comments about the Domain, LOL! It’s the bane of my existence.
Nothing beats a n/an engine for drive ability and reliability. Gotta grab an IS or ES for my wife before they ruin those also not just in terms of the engine but also the newer cars don’t impress in terms of the interior styling and material quality.
Either of those are terrific! Personally I’d probably go with the IS.
Based on the issues that you have pointed out, this is not a car that I would be interested in. The added electric motors in the 500h, I believe, eliminate the turbo lag by providing instant torque. Not sure if the rod=ad noise will be better in the 500h. Top spec for the 500h here in Canada is $91,000 CDN which is really up there.
Take the 500h for a test drive before you commit to anything. Some folks feel like that powertrain needs some work. I don’t mind it, personally, but as you say, it’s really up there in price and will still have the low-rent interior. I think a fully loaded 500h here is $72K USD and that’s a fully loaded QX60 Autograph (which are usually discounted) or an MDX Type-S both of which have V6s, nicer interiors, and are way better to drive.
@@joshjamescars Great. Thanks for the suggestions. I'll check out those other options too.
agree; i just had this as a loaner (i own a V6) and was pleasantly surprised (went in with low expectations); will probably buy one on year 4 of this new cycle because many things are new relative to the prior two generations
Definitely a smart idea to give it another year or so. But of course year 4 is also the refresh when more things will be new.
I haven't driven the new turbo i4, but if there's 1-2 second delay that's really big, because when you need the power to avoid an accident - you usually can't wait 1-2 seconds for that it.
I have thought about going back getting an older 450h (i believe that's the v6 hybrid), we have one with just the V6 and highlander with the old 3.3L V6 and hybrid and it feels way more nicer to drive with such smooth power delivery the engine never revs up. Not long ago someone just drove one over 1 million miles on the original drivetrain - likely because how easy the engine is worked with the electric assist and the PSD on that gen atleast is more reliable than the 5 and 6 speeds as well as extremely easy to change the fluid correctly without issue.
Yep! It’s a combination of the transmission fighting you to stay in top gear and the turbo lag/logic that creates that but it’s a noticeable delay. And yes, if you want a newer RX, I would absolutely go with a CPO 2022 RX450h.
I’m looking to buy used 2023 RX.
Which should I buy? Regular or Hybrid?
Depends what you want. If fuel economy is your goal, go with the 350 hybrid. The downside is it’s loud and slow as all can be. If you want more power, the 350 turbo is the way to go. Test drive both back to back. Experiencing both will probably make your decision one way or another.
Agree on your assessment Josh. In the end it’s asking a four cylinder to perform (or outperform) what a six cylinder engine can do. We used to have a 2001 C200 Kompressor and while that was a fun engine for a four pot, fuel mileage wasn’t all that great. Switching later on to the same model car, C240 with the V6 engine made a world of difference. Same output on bhp and torque but the feel was much smoother and effortless, definitely got lower fuel mileage considering it had a bigger displacement.
I agree on the cost cutting too. That’s unacceptable from Lexus. Is the new 350 more expensive than the previous V6 350?
Yes! Exactly to all of this. Although I honestly don’t think the mileage is that much better than the V6 it used to have especially since the engine has to work way harder like you say. And yes, it’s considerably more expensive than the last generation with the V6.
@@joshjamescars that’s what happens when you ask a four pot to do the job of a six or a six to do the job of a V8. Physics must always rule and triumph.
Josh - Do you like the RX350 better than the NX350? ...or visa versa...and why? I ask because I am about ready to buy one of them. Thank you!!
Hi Rebecca! Emailed you back! :) thanks for watching!
RAV4-Prime is fun😊👍
Any videos on the 2024 lexus TX?
Haven’t had a chance to drive that one just yet but looking forward to it soon.
@@joshjamescars oh cool . If you do please drive the 2024 TX 350 fwd.. so we can see what you think..there different opinions out there..hard to tell which is the overall correct ones
@arni7810 I can tell you having driven this RX350 that’s not the one I’d go for, simply because this was enough power for an RX but would be lacking in something the size of a TX. I think you would definitely want the 500h. And honestly, given Lexus’ lackluster interiors and exteriors, I’d much rather spend the same money on a nicely optioned Grand Highlander Hybrid Max.
@@joshjamescars oh understood..thanks
One way to look at it: You get what you pay for in the RX350 gas, especially when the average price of a car sold in the US today is $ 47 K. Which is why I paid for the RX450h+ :)
Yes! I totally agree with that as well. It’s insane how expensive cars are now, and the RX PHEV is great! Shares the same powertrain with my RAV4 Prime and it’s a fantastic drivetrain.
I agree with your points but would still go with the 350h because gas is expensive as hell here in California. I know this is controversial but I want a 350h version of lexus TX so we arent forced to buy a grand highlander hybrid limited. 80K is a bit out of our budget but we want something comfortable and efficient in the 60k ish range.
Hey there! Personally having seen and driven both of them there isn’t a huge difference between the TX and Grand Highlander (in fact many parts are identical). Plus, the Grand Highlander Hybrid Max tops out at $59K and that’s the one I would buy hands down. Also, I know most people don’t love minivans, but the Sienna is basically a Grand Highlander/TX with the basic 350h drivetrain. And it’s not a joy to drive, especially loaded up LOL.
@@joshjamescars we just prefer the better fit and finish of TX and we find the seats a lot more comfy. The sienna is a no go because second row doesn’t fold and the grand highlander with the normal hybrid doesn’t come with a platinum trim
What do you think of the QX80 now that its out? IMO its what the LX should have been@@joshjamescars
@rishinarang9966 I COULD NOT AGREE MORE. I’m obsessed with it and I actually think the QX60 is what the RX should have been too. I’m trying to figure out how I can get my hands on one to do a video…
Turbo 4s can be very fun. I love them in BMWs. So how bad could they be in a Toyota product? I’d probably opt for the electrified turbo. Fuel economy isn’t great in the 350. And with that 500h you can fill power gap caused by the turbo lag and it’s zippy! I can also promise you too that the wood is real. Just highly laminated.
The 500h is better for sure but if my money were on the line, at $72K MSRP, I’m passing on that and buying an actual luxury car. Also the wood may be real but it’s awful compared to what Lexus used to put in their cars. My GX with its gray sapele wood or the mahogany, the old RX with matte bamboo, etc.
if someone wants to be picky, old toyota would build the car around the engine. New toyota keeps the car and chooses an engine that is just enough to push that car and satisfy new emissions standards. Can be something that’s hard to live with if you were used to driving a thick gx built around a v8. what do you think?
Actually that’s not necessarily true. They did the same thing with the old cars. The 2GR V6 got dropped into everything including the Tacoma and Rav4, and at one point the same way the T25A is getting dropped into everything now. It’s just that, to your point, the engines that they have available to drop into their cars today are more efficient and less enjoyable than the old ones were. And there are pros and cons to each. I love my tank like GX but I also love my RAV4 Prime for all it does really well. Just depends on what one cares about.
Okay I see your point now, thanks for that. Pivoting from this point, however, isn’t it fair to think that aligning new engines to new standards will compromise durability and maintenance costs? Maybe not from a parts and service perspective, but from people wanting to hit the pedal and get the same feeling they got from their v6 RX (aside from the sound of course).
I love your channel by the way, and your videos have helped shape my 23 yr old head into appreciating cars most people my age don’t. With your knowledge, I believe you would have a valuable opinion on other brands. Can’t wait till you upload again.
I have a 2020 lexus rx350 and it feels way more premium that this one. Plus the v6 feels more powerful with more readily available power if i stepped on the gas to merge on freeway while moving at high speed
Couldn’t agree more! The old RX felt like a proper luxury car like my GX does. This one feels like a semi-premium mainstream crossover.
Cool. I think I’ll pass on the new Land Cruiser and GX for now. Not really available anyway, and will be overpriced for a while. Probably trade my 04 Land Cruiser for a CPO Rx soon. I’ll start driving my wife’s 17 GX and maybe trade that in later. Car shuffle at home until the new 250 series settles down
Why not get one of the last 2023 GX460s on the market now? Buy it brand new and keep it for another 20-25 years like your Land Cruiser. My local dealers don’t have any left but I saw 15-20 of them still available at Westside Lexus in Houston. I have a great contact there if you’re interested.
@@joshjamescars I considered it. But wife didn’t want two of the same cars. And my LandCruiser with 300K on it, isn’t as trouble free as it once was. Once it hit 300K, it thinks it’s a ford. But I did strongly consider. Get new or CPO with updated dash. I’m sure dealers are… dealing…on them now. She didn’t want two gas guzzlers. Nevermind that’s what we currently have. We’ll see. Want to hold off until May when prices dip back down a bit
With the ES that's why went with the brown interior - similar to color used in BMWs - and actual wood colored trim because the only other option is white or a sea of black, which looks like a cheap economy car.
Yes! I can’t remember if they call it Palomino in the ES but that interior color would probably be my choice as well.
If I were buying an RX, I would buy a 2022 350 luxury with the V6. I have written in the new one and it is quiet and if you’re putting around town, the turbo is fine but it is not the luxury vehicle that it wants was.
Get a 2020 with low mileage. You save a ton vs 2022 but get essentially the same car with only very few, very small differences.
@k.j.hulander2204 Except that most 2020s are going to be 4 years old at this point and ineligible for the new car extended warranty which most 2022s will still be able to get.
And @linhunnicutt6556 I would most definitely buy a 2022 with the V6 as well.
@@joshjamescars oh?! Here in Sweden Lexus cars get warranty coverage for 10 years or 200000 km, whichever comes first. This applies to used cars too, as long as they’ve been serviced exclusively by Lexus. So you can get a 2020 model today that would effectively have six years of extended warranty left as few cars from that time have travelled very far due to the pandemic. You can get really good deals if you buy to keep and own.
Oh wow that’s terrific! Here in the US, our new vehicle warranty is only good for 4 years or 50,000 miles whichever comes first. You can buy an extended Lexus warranty but only before the new car warranty expires.
I've worked for an automotive supplier and people dont know many car brands use vinyl with a fancy name and real leather on small parts of the seats. Problem is, they still market it as leather seats but its not FULL LEATHER seats. Laws haven't caught up to this marketing theme yet but automakers have been lying for years and charging top dollar for synthetic materials. Its a ripoff.
i drive a 2010 RX450H . My last car will be one of the last RX450H with its glorious 3.5 V6 !! With it the e-cvt feels much more pleasant to drive than with these 4cyl cry babies !
No detents or notches in the tranny lever. I am wondering what gear it is in. FIrst car ever this has happened - a glaring miss by Lexus.
This is very common of cars with electronic gear shifters like the RX. Most are going that way since joystick or button gear shifters don’t need to have a physical linkage to the actual transmission. To know what gear you’re in simply look at the gauge cluster display.
Would love to hear your impression on the RX350 with turbo I4 vs a non-s MDX and a non-s CX-90 which still use 6 cylinder engines.
Of the three, I wouldn’t even consider the RX350 or CX90 and would happily take the MDX all day long. The RX with this drivetrain and this interior is a non-starter for me and the CX90 has had A TON of issues from engine to transmission to electrical on both the I6 and the PHEV. Not super surprising considering the entire car is new from the ground up, but not something I’d sink my own money into for another few years at least. The MDX, on the other hand, is solid Honda quality and lovely Honda V6. Plus I happen to think it looks GREAT, especially when compared to the RX with its unattractive face and unfortunate proportions.
I don't know if its true but I heard the 2025 rx350 will bring back v6?
Nope. Toyota has firmly moved away from the older V6 and V8 cars in favor of their new turbo I4s which replace the old V6s and turbo V6s which replace the old V8s.
@@joshjamescarsIt'll be interesting to see how this stubborn commitment to turbo 4's exclusively works out for the world's largest car company. We own a 2012 RX and are in the process of trading for new. While my wife would love to just have a new stylish RX and not even bother looking at the competition, but I've ruled out the Lexus because of no V6 option. I think other consumers will as well. I don't understand why they can't just sell a base model with a 4 and luxury model with V6, I'd gladly pay up.
@jeffcobb331 Yep! I’m with you and it’ll be interesting to see how this plays out. Personally I think I bought my last Lexus with my 2023 GX as I’m not interested in the twin turbo V6 drivetrain which has had problem after problem. And I agree, frankly with the way this new RX feels inside and drives you’re better off getting a nice Toyota Highlander or Crown Signia.
Salute ...TGIF
I could not agreed more with your POV abt Lexus new products
Not to sound shady, but their quality changed a lot when the new Lexus America CEO and Toyota new CEO took control, their cars are becoming to American for me. If Volvo had that reliability stamp like Toyota/Lexus have... babyyyyy, I will not consider buying a Lexus product.
Car that I think you will like driving is the new Mazda.
How confy was this car over there at higway?The bumps and lumps etc etc compared with the cars that you own(minus the Gx)?Will you change your Rav4 prime or Camry for this car?
TGIF here too! Having had (leased) a Volvo, I completely agree that if they had better reliability I would 100% be over there right now, LOL!! I don’t know why but Mazda has never really been that interesting to me. And unfortunately the new CX90 is having all kinds of issues though that’s not entirely surprising since it’s a totally new vehicle inside and out. Hopefully they’ll be able to get that sorted over the next few years. As for Toyota quality, while Koji Sato hasn’t done much, Akio Toyoda was actually at the helm when all these cars were being developed so you can thank him for that. He put a huge emphasis on hybrids and efficiency across the line (which was the right move, obviously), but that’s also why we lost all of the V6 and V8 cars too. Akio Toyoda also wasn’t a truck guy at all so he’s also why their truck line aged so significantly but they were at the top of their game with performance and sporting cars.
@@joshjamescars True to that, but Sato was representing Toyota/Lexus in America, and he knows that in a country like ours...we need v6/v8.
And yes cx-90...feel sorry for them, because I like the brand
Akio as a former racer so is understandable why the Trucks line were not a big think for him, The same amount they spent with Century they should invest in Lexus America.
@wonderboy1998 Oh yes you’re totally right about the Lexus part of it. 100% under Koji Sato’s per view. And yes, totally agreed at needing the V6 and V8 in our country!
Does your engine have auto start? If it does turn it off not good for your engine anyway!!!
This engine does have it, it was turned off, and so that’s not causing any of the lag you see in the video. It’s even worse when that’s enabled!
Totally agree about the faux wood and front grill. Car overall is ugly.
I just test drove the new RX, and the new Tacoma and I have been officially converted! These new vehicles truly make the old stuff absolute dinosaurs in technology, styling, and torque! They were both so quick off the line, and didn't feel like it was dragging 5000 pounds like the old stuff. I am especially excited for the new GX to come out, as I am 90% sure I will pull the trigger on that one. I have been waiting for Lexus to bring the GX into the 21st century.
Next update will have to be the 4 runner...that will be a sure winner!
Terrific! If you like it, go for it!
I’ve got an RX350 as a loaner, and not impressed by its powertrain. The suspension with 21inch wheels is not as comfortable as last generation. Build quality is worse than before.
Let’s see if Lexus will give the 5th hybrid system to RX.
Yep! Completely agreed. I definitely miss the V6. Also, we’ll likely see THS Gen-5 for the mid-cycle refresh.
@@joshjamescarsYeah, I’m really interested in the 5th gen hybrid RX. No idea why Prius and Camry can have it first.
Toyota/Lexus are famous for their v6/v8 reliability, new turbo v4 should be take few years to be demonstrated their reliability as previous ones, don’t buy its now.
Yep, definitely agree!
Seems Lexus is going all out reliability/efficiency. Might be a smart move as cities are getting more crowded, the lower cost to maintain (considering inflation) and not needing to worry about gas prices. The 4 cyl won't be as fun to drive, but it won't be draining your bank account.
In Josh’s video he said the little 4 cylinder is only getting about 22.3 mpg. He also said that’s no better than the prior 6 cylinder.
Yes! @nosmo_king is right. Not to mention the turbo 4 requires premium fuel where the old V6 ran perfectly well on regular.
Car is too big for that engine nx also same engine
Honestly I’ve never seen the lack of innovation and creativity with Lexus and Toyota like today. Same platform and same cheaper interior across the board with new lexus and toyota cars. I mean they don’t even bother making new engines these days and only using the same 4cylinder engine in like 20 cars- toyota and lexus. And they’re more expensive than ever? Lol
Yes! Agreed. The same was true of the old GR-series V6s too, though there were 8 different versions of that engine. But yes, lack of innovation and creativity is spot on.
Volvo it is.
Just know how much of a headache you’re in when it comes to maintenance and long term repair on one. 😂😅 I loved my XC90 but there was a reason I leased it.
Putting 20" wheels on their vehicles is the worst vanity ploy Toyota/Lexus has done... I have them on my older Venza and its the worst, most rigid ride ever...
Yep! Same, I had them on my NX and I didn’t miss them when I sold it!