GUNDAM NARRATIVE is B. S... A BOMBASTIC & SPECTACULAR Epilogue (that NO ONE Asked for)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ส.ค. 2021
- MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM NARRATIVE is the immediate follow up of Gundam Unicorn happening merely one year after the Laplace Incident in UC0097. It was supposed to be a bridge between MSG UC and Hathaway's Flash, a story where the myth of the newtypes and the existence of psychoframe tech was going to be explored to great depth and show us why they all went missing after UC0100... But did that really happened?
My name is Absa, and in this video I'll try to explain why Gundam Narrative failed to be a true sequel and prequel story to Unicorn and Hathaway's Flash, not because its ideas were bad, but because its execution was lazy and repetitive. Also, in trying to do something different and transgressive, the actual outcome was super boring and not at all memorable... at least for me... but feel free to tell me your ideas in the comment section.
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I love how you just created a summary of a movie that doesn’t exist. That would be an incredible movie in my opinion.
Hahah thank you for your kind words!
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Sick pfp bro
and please no more zeon is so tiring
@@absa Yo bro how do you avoid copyright?
Personally I loved the mobile suit designs in NT, thematically. They fit with the whole theme of 'remnants' or 'failure'. Jona or Sultan were just victims of the Universal Century, being failed newtypes or char clones. Their suits represent that, Jona's being a discarded protoype unfit for combat, and Sultan's being a hastily repainted Sinanju Stein. As designs, yeah, they aren't exciting, but they fit for the story being told- which is why I love them.
Yeah, with both the main protagonist and the main antagonist being "failures", it's such a marvelous thematic irony that the story itself ends up being a failed Gundam movie.
Good storyline analysis
Don’t apologise for length of the video! I love how invested and analytical you are about UC timeline and themes, keep up the good work!
Thank you very much!
For me the reason why it feels repetitive is due to having the neo zeong as the final boss in just a different color scheme. Here instead the laplace box the objective is phenex unit.
And btw, Jona is older than Banagher.
"and is unicorn all over again"- that bored presentator from spongebob
The phenex along the unicorn units might be the fastest mobile suits in the franchise. Not counting Turn A and Quanta's ability to teleport.
The phenex can go lightspeed in unicorn mode alone.
That time bending ability is broken asf.
Light speed is impossible in UC
It has to be just below meaning even if they could they'd be tied with turn A, els quanta, victory 2, god gundam ect
Honestly, the Newtype happenings in NT take it a step too far in the wrong direction.
What I liked about the Axis Shock of CCA is how it felt ambiguous, that you could say it is the collective hopes of people of Earth and not just Amuro doing some heavy lifting. To an extent, this is true as well for the Colony Laser of Unicorn as there were TWO suits with Full Psychoframe and a decently sized audience to supply it with “hope” (until it divulges into the Force with Banagher hand waving everything else away).
The Phenex contains a whole explosion… by itself? You can argue the explosion has less power than a colony laser but… really? Other than a second shield, I don’t really think the Phenex has more Psychoframe than the Unicorn and Banshee combined, and it even has a smaller audience to supply it. The concept of Newtype Ghosts have been turned up to 11 in this film. While in Zeta, I can see it as the memory of the fallen manifesting to drive Kamille forward, and in Unicorn they pretty much just talk and forgive people, here in NT they straight up just power the Phenex…? (Do Correct me if I’m wrong).
I really wanted to like this but I can see why people would be turned off with Modern UC because of it. Like you said, by the end of the movie it feels like we’re back at square one, so what was really the point? At least Hathaway’s Flash is a step back into the right direction, I can’t wait for you to cover that next.
Great video as always Absa!
Edit: honestly, Zoltan could have been switched with Angelo and I felt that would have been better. Would be satisfying to see that little sh** get his head burst open with a beam saber.
WOW!... I've never thought of Angelo as a Zoltan stand-in, that would've made a lot more sense!
"I don't think Phenex has more psychoframe than Unicorn & Banshee combined"
Please watch the movie again. Before she sacrificed herself, Michele spread tons & tons of Psychoframe plates & pieces around the battlefield. Those framed already outnumbered Unicorn & Banshee in terms of volumes. In fact, Phenex' wings were made by incorporating all the scattered pychoframes. The movie is actually smarter than most people gave it credit for.
The Phenex contains it by itself because it basically has access to infinite power. The plane of energy Newtype stuff seems to be manifest from appears to be the Id from Ideon. You even hear the same exact sound effect as when Ideon does things like make a planet chopping sword. The Gundam universe exists because Ideon's was destroyed and the Id kind of wanted to give mankind a mulligan, so that we have a shot at a happy ending. There is a manga which goes over this which happens at around the same time Unicorn happens, though exactly when, I'm not sure. The point is that even with access to absolute understanding and an infinite well of energy we still are shitting in our own beds with petty conflict. And because we can't correct ourselves from this path, when we were given the keys to literal godhood we instead got scared and tried to seal it away, fearful of its terrible potential while simultaneously ignoring the positive potential.
It also explains why the Federation takes such a hard left turn on Gundam development and newtype technology to the point that Gundam isn't a word kids generally recognize by the UC 120's. The EFF wasn't even calling the Odysseus Gundam its name with the FF unit attached by UC 104. They were calling it just "Penelope."
I think CCA probably was good enough to explain what spooked the Federation, but the Unicorn/NT conclusion to the over all story of "What happened to Amuro & Char?" I think paints a clearer picture of just how terrified the Federation had become of its own creations, and of its own past.
Narrative was disappointing, however, there are some thematic things you've missed from the storyline. Firstly, one of the main things they were trying to tackle with Unicorn in mind was to demonstrate how Newtypes and Psychoframe could be detrimental to humanity. After the events of Unicorn, instead of understanding the potential of humanity, people feared it instead, leading to the sealing of the Banshee and the Unicorn. Instead of understanding the crazy space magic and where it comes from, humanity only looked at the physical phenomena and decided to destroy them.
Zoltan is a Character who embodies the hatred of people who are willing chose to be small-minded like mentioned above. He was a kid who was enhanced by the titans and used as a machine in order to replicate Newtype powers and then taken into the Sleeves, where he failed to become the new Full Frontal. His hatred stems from humanity failing to understand things like the Axis Shock or the Colony Lazer Block, tired of how humans never learned how to treat Newtypes and their inability to accept them he chose to show them Psychoframe psychical phenomena in direct opposition to Banagher and Amuro, through destruction and fear, showcasing that humanity's potential could very well lead them to their own destruction, thus justifying their fear of their own potential.
This is where the Phenex and the Narrative show up to fix everything and to prove that essentially it is important to hold onto that potential within humanity and to never give in to despair as Zoltan did. So basically, Unicorn introduced Psychoframe and Newtypes as an example of humanity's potential to grow and evolve for the better, while Narrative wants to remind us that if our potential is used wrongly, it could lead to our destruction. So in that sense, it is an expansion of Unicorn thematically. In the end, all Psychoframe is in the process of being destroyed or collected by Minerva and Banagher, as Psychoframe has already served its purpose to the world which is to showcase humanity's power through the physical realm.
Of course, Narrative could have achieved this storyline without being as chaotic and unfocused as it was. But I disagree with bringing back all the Newtype ghosts for the event, narratively, the characters of NT have no relation to past characters, changing Zoltans motivation to something trivial to link him to Char isn't good enough to warrant such a scenario that is deserving of such an occasion, which is why Hathaway is a story that works as something with a relation with those characters. Another big theme of Narrative is that "Problems of the living can only be solved by the living." which is to empower those who are living now to work towards a better future instead of constantly relying on Newtype ghosts, so having a storyline as you suggested is counterintuitive. I have a feeling the Sazabi and Nu have some kind of creative embargo at sunrise to maintain some kind of sacrecy, and since most of NT are just rehashed designs, it seems like they weren't planning on it to be the next big thing after Unicorn. NT kinda just seemed really low budget in general, in Japan, when Narrative was in cinemas, they already had a post-credit scene of Hathaway waiting at the beach as a teaser, so that kinda gives an idea of how Sunrise and Bandai treated Narrative as more as a filer in between UC content.
Nevertheless, great videoooooo
I mean... Those machines broke the law of physics, if you discover something like that, without a base to explained it with today's knowledge you better off sealed for later XD.
Honestly unicorn missed the whole purpose of newtypes and there meaning completely.... not to mention chars counter attack already showed the horror of the psycho frames... newtypes are described as the next stage of human evolution but the longer a newtype lives the more and more they are pulled into nihilism and just shut themselves off because humans as a whole newtypes or oldtypes it just doesnt matter and our nature is just that of war. I think showing this from the older shows msg, z, zz, cca, f91, victory and hathaway's flash depict the message perfectly or at least as close as you can get... amuro knows change is needed but he cant do it, kamile sees there's just no bright future, judea after seeing the destruction of was choose's to just wanting to give his sister a decent life (the happiest outcome), amuro after along time managed to coop with what happened and whats to show mankind a better way while char just... degrades into bitter hatred of earthnoids as well as refusal to accept what happened with lalah.. hathaway struggles to coop with the newtype aspects and believes in amuro's thoughts that humans can change but also believes char is right that our future is in space while also fighting to deal with his issues and his mistakes during cca... honestly with all of this i dont see a point to unicorn or nt because all of the plot behind the show just feels like it came out of left field... and all of a sudden there is this vist foundation never once mentioned in a setting so meticulous in crafting its lore or at least existing organizations to blatantly not mention this organization that has been around since u.c. 0010? (Around that time anyways). Psycho frames themselves i have issues with in unicorn because in cca the frames were meant to just help newtypes project there power in a physical force to give there machines more power... amuro died to this because he exerted himself far beyond the limit in order to try and save the earth... unicorn has them freaking travelling through time and distorting time... nt has them straight up predicting the future... now merging a soul into a machine.. yeah thats been done plenty of times in u.c. but never straight up controlling it without a pilot or power source.... honestly i feel like they missed every mark that defines newtypes and the point to the u.c. possible in unicorn and especially nt... p.s. i wanna say zoltan to me is literally just a jealous brat who cant accept his creation was just a failure to the earlier shown full frontal and nothing more then that at least to me
@@xenocyde8498 Well thats kinda the point of Unicorn, It's about hope, anti-nihilism, and informed optimism. We see this from the very start with the shows concept. It's based on a real tapastery "The Lady and the Unicorn" which is interpreted by the show to mean that human's unique ability to understand each other is our greatest potential. From the very beginning, the Unicorn represents something, (which is something most lead MS don't do since they are just weapons) The unicorn is the symbol of hope and a representation of human potential narratively. So already as a thematic device that sets it apart, It moves, sounds, and controls differently than any MS, because its primary purpose is not to be a mobile suit but rather to be used to showcase human potential.
Gundam UC asks the question "when there is no reason to be hopeful and every reason to be nihilistic, will you still be able to say but even so?" This is why Unicorn, to me is the best gundam by far, because everything that happens in the show revolves around this theme. Sunrise is speaking directly to its audience with this production. Which is why they don't go down the route that previous MCs did. Because in the end nihilism accomplishes nothing, just look at Full Frontal, he's the embodiment of nihilism. He doesn't have any hope in humanity unlike Char even at his worst, he'd rather perpetuate an endless cycle of war because he believes that that's all humanity knows how to do. Throughout the story banagher learns lessons from everyone he meets, he learns to chase possibility from his father, be responsible for yourself and others around you from Daguza, acknowledging sadness and to not close off your heart from Zinnerman, be open minded and desiring mutual understanding from Marida etc. This is what the show redefines as a perfected Newtype. The shows main slogan is "Awaken the newtype within you" because the show is telling you to be optimistic, its telling you to become a "Newtype". Because essentially the show is saying "this is how we should approach conflict."
I don't believe fiction should be held down too much when wanting to expressing a message, but there is a point where we draw lines, which is NT for me, but UC for others. I personally don't really care about established lore too much if it doesn't serve much narrative or thematic purpose, so I'm more loose in that sense. Regarding visit foundation, its not really an issue because they had no reason to be mentioned in other stories, psychoframe in UC for the most part never did anything that wasn't done in CCA, its NT that really pushed it by rewriting things that happened in UC.
@@TSOMcrew to me the nihilism is key to the u.c. story as its meant to be a darker story of thr fate of humanity and what a path of war takes... im ok with hope but when you have a machine just get god powers like the unicorn gundams it ignores pre established lore which just bugs me to no end lol and honestly it stayed true to psychofranes up until the ending is all but in a big way for me
@@xenocyde8498 Nihilism is key in pretty much all gundam, Unicorn is as dark as any other average gundam, it's wether or not the characters embrace nihilism that changes from show to show. Most of MSG, Zeta, ZZ, and CCA is about defying nihilism. The end of MSG is far from nihilistic, In Zeta the AEUG fought for a better environment which is in of it self anti nihilism, and in ZZ children fight for a better future against cold adults which is also anti-nihilistic. Wether or not the characters achieve their goals is not really important in Gundam, its what they fight for, even if kamille gets crippled in the end of Zeta, it doesn't erase the fact that his aspirations and care for others led him to ending the war. Even though amuro and char died at the end of CCA, it doesn't mean that Amuro's hope for humankind is invalid. Even in Unicorn, we know even before NT and Hathaway that they don't achieve their goals and the world doesn't change because we know of V and F91. Banagher was shown the future where humans no longer exist. Yet when faced with an absolute he still decides to fight against it. That's what gundam is all about, even against absolute dispair, we must not stop fighting for a better tomorrow. From MSG to 00 and IBO, this theme of rejecting nihilism has always been present.
Glad you included so much info on the novel version. I appreciated it since I wasn't as in the know. Also Hathaway Flash was a breath of fresh air after Narrative tbh. Only wish I could have seen it in theater.
Your psychic pressure! ... Are you a foreign Newtype?
One thing I like in Unicorn is that the psycho frame can hijack its pilot, a thing we saw back in Zeta Gundam with the Psycho Gundam. It is quite a dangerous piece of technology.
the novel of Gundam Unicorn didn't have time travel, it was just a newtype hallucination
It was also a commentary on the War on Terror. Zeon remnants were part of the middle east and they opposed the Earth Federation for their persecution towards them
The funny thing is - I was entirely cool with the Full Frontal time travel segment specifically because it was actually a cool bit. As a Newtype hallucination. I was skeptical of Full Frontal as a character and yet another (literal) Char clone, and yet I even thought the anime version was very tastefully done and in-theme. I was pleasantly surprised by the entire segment. It was as heartfelt and grounded as Ple 12's newtype postmortem (a direct homage to the original Tomino novel). It was Fukui showing that he "got it." What I am not okay with is tanking the colony laser and shutting down the entire EFSF fleet by "reversing time." That was Unicorn jumping the shark.
Long videos are great!! I've really been enjoying your super in depth Gundam videos! Going to check out the Macross series soon too! Would love to see your thoughts on the AU Gundam sereis, and other shows like.... Gurren Lagann! Keep up the great work!
That idea of your is fantastic. It was so good I think It can be a new anime. When I'm listening to this I have goosebumps
Acabo de descubrir tu canal personal, me encanta que aquí tengas mayor libertad para hablar de gundam, nice my dude!!
Muchas gracias! Y si, en inglés es un poco más fácil de hablar de otras franquicias.
The failed char clone is a pivotal part of the story because it highlights char isn’t here anymore. He’s gone fully. And that was portrayed by chars new type ghost taking back his piece of his soul from full frontal. Full frontal succeeded ONLY because of that piece of chars soul. Now that that is no longer around, no new clones can be made. And that’s why he’s so deranged. He went through everything except the plastic surgery to look like char and the implanting of chars soul and memories. He went almost all the way and was stuck. He was the LITERAL representation of char is no longer possible to attain. Char is gone and so are his ideals. His ideals will fail.
Well if we get Gaia Gear it could be said that Char took that piece to wait for another time he could give someone guidance aka Afranche Char.
How is that pivotal? Gaia Gear preceded Narrative by decades. This is well trodden ground. Fukui lacks originality.
It worsens recent series amping up a super robot narrative and is pretty contrived. I think there were scenes constantly repeated as well. Like the bird one. Its great to see a return to form with HF.
Coming back to this video, I think it's actually a misread to say that Jona is the worst parts of Rhidde and Banagher. Rhidde at his worst is an irredeemably murderous horny creep. Banagher at his worst is a cringe naive simp. Jona is neither of those.
Zoltan should have been Angelo. That would 100% improve him.
wasn't the girl that pilot RX-0 Unicorn Gundam 03 Phenex a real newtype and the kids where experimented on because they kept there mouth shut?
From what I understand
>Rita was a real newtype further enhanced by experiments
> Neo Zeong II was built from Neo Zong spare parts
>The "sleeves remnants" are Republic of Zeon soldiers using Sleeves insignia as cover so their actions get blamed on Neo Zeon remnants and not on the Republic. Their highier ups want the Phenex to prevent the republic from being reannexed into the federation
>Zoltan isn't as much a clone as a cyber newtype who was one of the ones made when trying to make a second Char, except this one was a failure (probably cause of insanity) so they never bothered changing his looks (its the Republic of Zeon that made Full Frontal). Even tho he's insane Zoltan is still an expensive cyber newtype ace so they still use him
you hit the nail on the head it was a P-bandai movie hahaha that was a awesome comparison ! Even had the pre order wait.
Yeah you hit all of the sore points of NT. I didn't like Sleeves remnants, but the whole mythology Phenex side was great.
Love you’re interpretation much much more than the original the only thing i liked narratively was Rita and her getting to use the the Phenex as a vessel to fulfill her wish to fly. If they were to use the Nu and Sazabi parts my only wish is that it be slimmed down but thats just a personal thing cause im not a fan of heavy or boxy designs for mobile suits.
narrative is the destiny of the UC
Also, It could has been awesome to see more of the Sinanju and its magnificent performance and the Jesta... really awesome MS
Honestly, your version sounds way better than the NT movie. Narrative was kinda boring and the first time I watched it, I had no clue what was going on or how it was related to Unicorn in the first place. Here's hoping they someday do an animated version of GIA GEAR. By far my most favorite designs of mobile suits.
I had an idea to change this that makes it alittle better, that doesnt require much animation if at all.
Make the Char clone actually a clone of Paptimus Scirrocco
- This explains his newtype powers
- The death is perfect, Impaled and launch a newtype attack
- brings the story back to zeta as they already had titans info in the movie
- call the other Neo Zeon the Ne O - It already had multiple arms which was the key of the O
Love your own version of nt gundam.
A bit really late, but if there was something I was expecting to see in the movie were the wings, but not the ones made of light alone, but the crystal psycho frame wings we had in the final volume of Testament manga. The light made wings were preatty, but that crystalized psycho frame wings were beutiful AF. LoL. But well, it was from a time before they came up with more longer wings
As a Unicorn fan I really hated this movie. First the art style does not match. The new types get out of control.
Thank you!
Honestly, I loved Narrative, more than Unicorn even, but, it meshed more with my tastes, though I think in part it's due to how much I like the soundtrack that helps, but, I did enough my time with Narrative.
Oh definitely... the soundrack was amazing and it added a lot of punch to the action scenes.
I guess I’m in the minority. I truly enjoyed the Narrative movie, and the suits in it. 🤷♂️
Well at least I now know the storyline of the movie I saw at the Gundam Front 6 years ago!
I rewatched NT cuz it was free on TH-cam a few days ago. I don’t hate the movie. The first time I watched it, I did. But now I think I have a better grasp of the events in the movie. It’s not horrible. It’s fine.
I liked this video veri much. What disappointes me about Narrative is that there are no political consequences of the revealing of the laplace box. The best guarded secret of the whole Universal Century and no effect at all.
The Charter reveal caused tons of protest around the world & colonies. But the power of the people can only do so much against a mega-powerful corrupt government like the EF. That's why Hathaway had to form Mafty in order to topple the government and even that's still not enough.
I pretty much consider Unicorn to be the "Seed" of Universal Century- more flash than substance, and not a lot of subtlety. Narrative more or less fits as the "Seed Destiny" (crossbred with Stargazer) in this analogy. Don't get me wrong; I think both Unicorn and Narrative are superior to Seed and Seed Destiny as Gundam entertainment, but on many levels they give me the same vibe.
Again, I'm not saying Unicorn and Narrative don't have their charm or aren't fun to watch, but I tend to take them less seriously than other UC series.
I think the first 4-5 episodes of Unicorn is a perfect encapsulation of all of the themes/ideas of UC, but the end of the OVA really falls off fast for me
Wow! that is a better plot for narrative!
Damn that story woulda been peak UC but alas the story writers don’t know how to do shit anymore
What is the conflicts in Twilight axis and what factions were fight each others.
Much like the Earth Federation, I very much want to sweep Unicorn and NT under the rug and pretend it never happened.
You forgot about the Phenex copy from Gundam G Reco.
The entire point of the nu Gundam not being found at all by anyone is to serve as a mystery to the power of the new types. As powerful as all the psycho frame mobile suits are, Nu Gundam was the only one to emit such a massive amount of energy and possibly fuse with the pilot then do a time jump thingy like banagher did only amuro didn’t come back. I like to think they didn’t bring amuro back because his new type powers became so powerful that he transcended the physical plane of existence fully. It would make sense since he is the OG protagonist and was a better pilot than anyone and why he was made into the Ace of aces. He embodied the chosen one. With his mission successful at stopping axis, he transcended into the next realm “god” like power. Banagher got close but came back and I theorize his spirit took on traits of amuro because they made contact or possibly fused spirits due to the transcendence. As for the phenex, it’s physical form is still flying around. It didn’t fully transcend like amuro and almost banagher. However when it took the fuel tank explosion to another dimension, I believe at that point the phenex did transcend. If the phenex can transcend and pop back in reality then so should amuro right? Probably not since his physical form has been ripped from reality for too long. There’s no matter to return. Maybe as a new type ghost he could for a split second but if you look at char and lalah, lalah was the original new type so you could say anything about her power level and chars soul was still tethered to full frontal and that’s why he came back as a new type ghost momentarily. Then when he took it back, him and lalah finally fly off in peace. And we don’t see them again.
Well there is another possibility. Full Frontal and this failed clone aren't worthy of carrying Char's fragment. As in Gaia Gear there's a successful clone both biologically and in the memory implantation of Char called Afranche Char. Perhaps if Gaia Gear gets adapted we could see Afranche Char be the true successor of the Red Comet.
I really liked the design of the NT Gundam & the Sinanju Stein!
They look dope
Your version of Narrative slams the original away. You know what? I am motivated enough to write a fanfic redo of Narrative with your point of view. Some day.
Phenex is kind of similar to the Blue Destiny's EXAM system with how the soul of the Cyber NewType girl Alice is trapped within the EXAM program..
I think you conflated something here. ALICE was the AI in a totally different machine, the EXAM used someone else. (though otherwise your on point.) It's this recurring 'stuff a soul in the suit for more preformance, slight berserk problems ensue.' thing.
Ive just seen unicorn and nt, fun
I disagree with your opinion that the NT story is repetitive. I mean, how many Gundam anime tells the story of protags hunting a semi-sentient Gundam piloted by a Newtype-ghost? It's actually pretty cool and fresh. It's like mixing an element of Moby Dick with Phenex being the whale and Michele being the Captain Ahab as well as giving us a reason why no party dare to open up the psychoframe tech again in future UC (at least until Unicorn sequel happen).
Also, I actually like the II Neo Zeong battle more than the one in Unicorn. In Unicorn, FF didn't use the Neo Zeong's full ability to combat. Instead, he used it as a time-travel Disney-ride for Banagher. In NT, Zoltan actually used all of NZ's full combat abilities. So it actually fixed the missed opportunity of FF's NZ in Unicorn.
And finally, none of the mechs in NT stand out (other than Phenex) due to the theme of the movie where all sides who hunt Phenex are reduced to "scraping the bottom of the barrel" when it comes to their resources. Narrative Gundam is just a repurposed test-bed for Nu Gundam, Zoltan's Sinanju Stein is the last remaining Sinanju from the units that Sleeves stole from the Feds, and II Neo Zeong is actually a confiscated unit that Luio gave to Zoltan's faction since the current Sleeves no longer has the resources to build a new NZ unit. All the mechas are intentionally simple, underwhelming & slapped-together by design of the story & theme. By all means, they are just left-over junks. But as junks, they still look cool enough in the movie.
I understand everything you say and would agree with you if Gundam NT was treated like an afterword/spinoff of Unicorn (just like the novel did). My whole issue is that it was supposed to be the NexT entry in the Universal Century Saga, a kind of bridge between Unicorn towards Hathaway. My point is that as a spinoff, NT works great; as a standalone forward-moving story, not so much (if at all). But yeah, seen as a spinoff, all the battles are much more spectacular and bombastic than what happened in Unicorn.
@@absa The whole thing about NT being the "NexT 100 UC"-saga is just the usual non-sensical advertising from Ban-rise. Heck, the setting for NT is not even UC 0100 yet (it was still UC 0097). It's all just false marketing. In actuality, NT is a (temporary?) epilogue for the Unicorn saga and as such, it did a good job.
Also, I love that Zoltan actually destroyed The General Revil (the battleship, not the man) in this movie. I hate that ship since Unicorn. It represents the Federation's iron-fist & corrupt governance that still managed to slip away at the end of Unicorn while the iconic Rewloola got obliterated by the Colony Laser.
@@androyus fully sentient, you mean semi-sapient.
Sci-fi popularized the lie that "sentient" is "sense of self"(as you mouth-breathers think of) but it is not; *sapient* is "sense of self."
@@absa you keep using the word "sentient" where you mean *sapient,* do you "enjoy" being ignorant by pushing generic lies?
@@absa you also keep using the hateful notion of "magical" in reference to Newtype phenomenon. Why?
the biggest problem i had with nt is it didnt change the status quo we left at the end of unicorn AT ALL by its end.
I pretty much enjoy Narrative because back in the day, I have no idea how Gundam universe working and only care about giant robots fighting. Your plot could make the best Gundam movie ever
Where can you watch NT?
I was here on yt for a while.
@@absa On TH-cam now, lol
Narrative is pretty good. To end the psychoframe tech and how it can be a detriment to mankind
nice plot suggestion tho
So the PSYCHO frame can give non newtype piolots the ability to perform like newtypes & a newtype using psycho from technology is extremely overpowered? To the point they can manipulate time. & space?
Part of srw30
I hate whole the ghost of newtype stole a gundam
Yeah... it's super weird but actually kinda in line with the whole psychoframe / newtype will thingy.
@@absa yeah
I honestly dont care how bad it was a new unicorn in my Opinion is well worth it those mobile suits are just built different
I'd argue the narrative, sinanju stein, neo zeong 2, zoltan and phenex are all upgrades to the originals
You really think so?? I may be biased because of the colors but Frontal's Sinanju looks much more menacing and royal. Zoltan is a great character, too bad he was reduced to a "char clone"... and I have mixed feelings about both Neo Zeongs, I don't really like them that much.
As for the Phenex... the Banshee is my favorite Unicorn.
@@absa I think being reduced to a char clone shouldn't be a bad thing. Look the movie was a flop overall but I love so many individual elements regarding it. And my personal favorite unicorn is the full armor but the phenex is just spectacular
Bad guy, probably in a mask has an army of super advanced mech, and is gonna drop a colony on earth if we don't stop him. We have designed an even more advanced mech based on theirs and some teenager is gonna pilot it.
-The plot of every single gundam story.
Like for real, Mix it up a bit guys. For however goofy and campy G gundam can be, at least they tried a new story
NT gundam is actually my favorite.. lol
The space magic is why i liked wing more than most UC The ZERO system had some newtype abilities like the future seeing but it was done with tech and it took an incredibly skilled pilot to not even go crazy and countering a Zero with Another Zero system brings it down to just pilots vs their ideals.
All the technology in Wing was great. And it even predicted the future of "drone warfare" via Mobile Dolls.
Sadly, most of the plot, the politics and the phylosophy in the show made Zero sense (pun not intended) Total Pacifism is a joke that even Gandhi will laugh at.
@@androyus true but thats why i wish we had a glory of losers anime adaptation. We get more back story on the pilots and the politics are more fleshed out and of course we get the sexy EW gundam designs and the more believable transition of proto zero to zero Custom
If you like that you'll love IBO - the whole concept of "newtypes" is technologically based in that one
well psychoframe is now seal away and was not used anymore in future war.
In theory that's the whole point of Unicorn/NT... but you really think that a super corrupt company like Anaheim would not leak any info on psychoframe tech? Also... the Phenex is still out there with its full psychoframe body.
@@absa Considering the Federation's influence and fear of newtypes, as well as how badly Anaheim falls out of favor with them in late UC, the technology ends up going unused.
@@absa well anaheim was kinda in declined and was replaced if im not mistaken in the future (which confirm the lost of Vist foundation monopoly due to laplace box) and they mobile suit in the future have no psychoframe (this is refering to victory). yeah phenex is out there somewhere but from the series that i seen it doesn;t make a reappearance until far far in the future (Reconguista) (i dont know if its canon?)
Doesn't the f91 has psycho frame around it's cockpit?
@@ditoyogaswara9299 a bio sensor that enhance newtype pilot performance through calculation from Bio-Computer without any of psychoframe magic.
New theory, Gundam is just a front for demonology (first the phenix ,then all of iron blooded orphans)
More like The-Man-Ology; the study of man and his imagination...
7:09 “Aligna vagina system”
Time travel in a Gundam anime sounds awful
Let’s call it the Destiny of UC
"New type magic" I don't even know why they bothered, it seemed lazy, but cool song though.
Frankly, I just thought Narrative was unnecessary. Same with the Unicorn Gundam time godly stuff! Which is weird, cause I'm a big fan of Turn A, which is the most powerful MS to exist in Gundam cause it forced multiple universes together and erased their technology. Yet... I'm not a fan of the golden machine, it didn't need to be there and I'm just left confused.
Why did they need to reuse the prototype of the Nu, how did they get that and if they had the money to make different armor sets. Couldn't they just make a better suit?
How the hell does Neo Zeon always find the money, even when it's on it's knees to make a second Neo Zeong? Maybe it might be me, but they could've gone to Mars Zeon which is still a thing or the slowly growing Crossbone Vanguard, HELL MAYBE THE INSANE BASTARD OF JUPITER LENT A HAND!!! Ya know, something to help it tie it down to later UC which was one of the points.
And frankly, although I don't wanna be that negative, but out of all the mobile suits in Gundam. Even the wired ones! The Silver Bullet Suppressor makes zero sense and like all the other suits, it's a big waste of money for folks who are supposedly on their knees. If you want slapdash suits made from leftover junk, check out Gundam Crossbone Dust.
I'm a massive fan of Later UC and if this movie was made to add to it or answer questions then, it kinda does none of that cause Psycho tech is still in effect in Later UC. If it's there to expand on the New Types, then frankly, they made them look too godly. They're the next step of connection, not making humans become divine beings.
Though it would be fun to see a New Type Cult of sorts that use the term New Type to justify themselves to cause others pain.
As I said before... Unicorn was just right before the psychoframe-newtype-time-reversing hand-wave. NT went all-in with the newtype/psycho magick and I wouldn't have had any complains if it was interesting (Axis Shock was super well developed, earned and intersting).
But yeah, NT is plagued with a lot of plot holes and deus ex machinas that make it really hard to maintain the suspension of disbelief... That and really boring mecha design.
Tbh, I don't like the mecha design of Turn A, but that doesn't mean that it's not well done and also, the story is super interesting and well developed.
The Narrative Gundam (as well as left-over psychoframes & knock-off NTDCsystem) was secured by the Luio company via backdoor dealings with AE with the help of the captured Martha Vist Carbine. It's exactly the fact that Luio didn't have resources to build their own MSs that forced them to use Narrative. As you can see, even Luio's "army" were made of old Dijeh suits back from the Zeta era.
The II Neo Zeong was not built by the current Sleeves. Michele/Luio company confiscated another NZ prototype from AE and gave it to the current Zoltan's Sleeves party so that it can collide with Narrative & be activated to draw the attention of Phenex.
Many of you other questions are either answered blatantly in the movie or implied.
Ngl you lost me with the rewritten story, it sounds more like fanservicy fanfiction but the rest of the analisis was fire, keep the good work!
I do agree with nearly everything said here about Gundam NT. A needlessly contrived plot, basically irrelevant impact on the UC timeline, and plot points and themes that were prominent and in almost every case done better in Gundam Unicorn. However, there is one thing I'd like to point out about Banagher's Silver Bullet Suppressor. It actually makes a lot more sense than you'd think. One of the Silver Bullet's main features is its quasi-psycommu system, which allows the Silver Bullet to launch its arms as remote weapons. When the arms are launched out like that, they become serious targets due to the tactical threat they pose, and are more liable to being destroyed in combat. Because of this, arms for the Silver Bullet (and before that, the Doven Wolf) would be important replacement parts to have on hand. Due to the demand for these parts, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to think that there would be plenty of spare Silver Bullet arms laying around.
As for retrofitting an arm dedicated to being able to fire the beam magnum, only RX-0 types have been able to handle the strain of firing them. This could be due to the psycoframe that's built into the mobile suit's frame. Developing a new arm, gaining access to the resources, equipment, and facilities required to build it, and then actually assembling it would take a huge amount of time and resources. In a sense, they'd basically have to redesign the Unicorn Gundam from scratch, or at least the arm to fire the beam magnum and the cockpit to control the arm.
With all of this in mind, creating a system that just replaces the Silver Bullet Suppressor's arms is the most time and cost effective strategy that allows a mobile suit to fire the beam magnum repeatedly in combat. Especially when dealing with emergency situations within the span of one year after storing the Unicorn Gundam.
On the contrary I think NT did what it set out to do. It wasn't supposed to be big and game changing like unicorn. It was just supposed to close some loose ends that unicorn left. Which is honestly an near impossible task. And if NT failed, then I feel that's more indicative of unicorn than NT.
I am new to U.C., only having seen Gundam the Origin movies, Gundam 1 and 2 on Netflix, 08th Team, Char's Counterattack, and Unicorn. So forgive me when I say, you lost me at 26:30 when you bring up Quess, who I can only see as a infantile teenager, as the one explaining things to Lala, who actually seems like the one to come to the conclusion you would force Quess to come to, where in the whole Counterattack, she fails to Newtype and understand people and explain her reasoning. Is their something in the media of Gundam that shows more of Quess that I should watch to understand her, because at it stands, she is very unlikable, and is all the bad parts of Char's Counterattack...
Haha that's actually why I bring her up again... she is like the black sheep of gundam female characters, that's why I tried to justify her existence by making her "understand everything" now that she is a disembodied newtype.
@@absa Oh, so you were trying to do her a favor? Welp, I won't roast your effort any further then. I wished I knew the mindset that went into making her. What went wrong in the process, and who thought it was o.k. I wish I could show my brothers the movie, but if I find myself cringing at her, what's to say my brothers won't be completely shut off from watching other U.C. related Gundam... :[
@@isaactrujillo5222 My thoughts exactly... I really don't understand Quess Paraya's role in CCA and as a young newtype (other than being a plot device for Hathaway's Flash... which that makes her character even worse).
@@absa And the fact that she's a plot device for Hathaway makes it all the worst for me to enjoy Hathaway's Flash... I was interested in hearing and seeing Noa Bright having a son, and see him in a bit of action in GCA, but was sorely disappointed that his mindset change came from a poorly developed character that could have had a believable impact on him. I hope in the movies he actually comes to terms with Quess just making the wrong choices that brought her downfall and not "but sides in war and the human condition..." etc. Thank you for bringing yourself to clarify for a random viewer. I did thoroughly enjoy the discussion between what Narrative was and what came to be after Unicorn. It seems like a waste of potential. Probably enjoyable to a degree (I wanted to watch it and now I am doubting it), but very lackluster in terms of it possibilities it could have brought to the U.C. as a whole...
P.S. Sorry about the rant, and thank you again...
@@isaactrujillo5222 I'd say just watch Narrative. Ignore all the marketing and judge the movie as it really is: a side-story epilogue for Gundam Unicorn.
It's amazing how you are just better ignoring Unicorn, Twilight axis and Narrative completely and just go watch Hathaway's Flash after Char's Counterattack.
The Hathaway novel was a sequel to Beltorchika's Children, which was the CCA novel. So it works much better.
Cool
Can't have silent cameos of dead NewTypes though...
I just dislike Quess as the person bringing a message of understanding. I would have much preferred Marida or Sayla if you want someone that knew both Char and Amuro. Quess was never mature enough to think like that.
That's my whole point of bringing back Quess... She was universally disliked because of her immaturity, but now that she has transcended, NOW she knows better. (In reality it's just my way of justifying her appearance and role in CCA and giving her a little bit more raison d'etre haha.)
isnt the butterfly wings thing just rip off turn a gundam and turn x suits? narrative was a not that bad i didnt hate it like i hated hathaway.
I mean, I like Unicorn gundam... but aftter NT is REALLY hard to say that outloud
Ah, the mythical unicorn 2 is in fact narrative.
All those unicorn 2 people will be *very* unhappy with that.
I have to disagree, the super robot super powers are horrible as they take away from the original way they were used to represent the horrors of war by creating amplified situation were someone is forced to kill someone they have an instantaneous connection with. They're now time manipulating gods (pretty sure even Mazinger can't alter time) which just trivialise any conflict now as you just have to wait for the super hero to awaken to his powers and everything will be alright. On a shallower note, the battles are just awful cacophonies of particle effects that make all the regular mobile suits pretty pointless, Zeta may have ended up using whole biosensor wizardry at the end but throughout the series it was still just a high performance mobile suit that could be taken out by even a mass production M.S. The greater the gap in power between the Gundams and the normal suits, the less tension there is and a very good example would be when Kira get's the Freedom in Seed as he goes from a high performance weapon with clearly defined weaknesses and he has to kill to survive to an over the top super machine that lest him shoot down dozens of enemies in seconds all while avoiding the cockpits. The tension as well a any real discussion about the morality of killing for your own survival or believes.
Man, por lo menos ponele subtitulos en español
Es mi intención... sólo que es un proceso híper talachoso y tardado entonces no lo he logrado jaja.
if you really think about it... according t the gundam wiki the unicorn(which was used to build the banshee and the phenex) was built from the nu gundam's data and the narrative gundam was the nu-gundam's "prototype" so why are they using the literal thing that started the phsycoframe gundam line to hunt down the latest one? i need someone to elighten me about this situation...
They need a Nu's prototype like Narrative Gundam so that they can install some psychoframes & the knock-off NTD system precisely to capture Phenex. It's basically the old adage of "fighting fire with fire".
Personally, I really hated Narrative. IMO, it was a betrayal of everything Gundam stood for and just treated Newtypes as these OP Mary Sues and Gary Stus with all these supernatural crap that to me just don't make sense especially when Gundam's aiming for a good bit more realism. I know the seeds were planted in Zeta and ZZ, but at least in those, Newtypes were still imperfect human beings deep down, but with a strong desire to create a better world where people can understand each other. I just think Narrative and the last two Unicorn movies really missed the point with that, and I think it's sad.
I believe Narrative should've been a heartfelt story about three friends separated by war, but still can find a way to understand one another again and prioritize empathy over ego and put the past behind them, as well as a story about a scared and insecure young boy trying to find acceptance even if it means resorting to the deadliest of deeds (in other words, they should've humanized Zoltan). But instead, Narrative ended up becoming pretty much exactly what most modern Anime fans think of Gundam, another boring, overtly flashy and confusing toy commercial.
Loved the rewrite and the analysis, my guy! You've earned yourself a sub.
Rita wasn't a cyber-Newtype. She was a natural newtype. The Titians medically (her body, mind, and soul) fused her into the suit. There are 4 levels of Newtype skills too. You gotta do more research on your Newtype history and skills
Dont bother this guy just hates newtype "magic" and narrative so save your breath hes not worth it
Wow... 4 levels of newtype skills!
That I wasn't aware, can you tell me what they are?
@@absa
1. The individual realizes they are different, they foresaw an event or a connection to someone random mentally. Like when Banagher sensed and heard Maniva. Or when char was driving the RX-77 Gun-tank (early type) and their was a "spark" or activation we see. Or the visions Rita would get about the colony drop and the bond three had.
2. I personally don't remember the name of this level or stage but, it is when the individual like Banagher for example is able to active the psychoframe (red glow in the stage) by themselves and have some access to various types of Newtype abilities we generally see throughout the UC timeline.
3. Awakened - this were the individual is fully aware they are a Newtype and have somewhat mastered their abilities. For Banagher this would be the green psychoframe on the Unicorn. This stage/level also include miracles like the Axis Shock and when the Unicorn was pulling those ships and the aura was coming off it. I would saw that most if not all Newtypes in the UC timeline reach this stage.
4. Perfectability awakening (this is where the Unicorn gets all crystalized) at this level Banagher is able to make the Unicorn any man-made device and mobile suits go back in time (however still staying in the present time) and reducing them back to their pure basic state being a metal or silca.
The Phenex/Rita is the achievement of the Singularity allowing humanity to fully achieve the power of "God" and because of that, Rita throughout the Gundam universe is able to pop up and disappear into nothing. She eventually runs into Iden (the creator of the UC universe) and they battle each other.
Ahhh stopped at 2 mins where we complain about it being made to sell kits... good job describing the literal job of ALL the animes and OVAs 😅
@Abhsalonikas will you not agree; the core point of Gundam is to overcome misconception as people seek to overcome the gravity of insecurity as composed by vanity aka pride in convention?
To perpetuate wrong use of words~language just because it is standard misuse, is very unbecoming of a true Gundam fan.
Aren't a true UC fan man... You really aren't. You forget Twilight Axis. Also, all the Newtypes leave the earth and Milky Way Galaxy.
Oh great another narrative hate video....how unique.
As I said in the video... the ideas were amazing, the execution wasn't. It's not hate, just dissapointment.
Now, if I may ask, did you liked the movie?
F91 is mediocre. Victory is garbage, like turn A and recoa and second season of Iron Blooded Orphans.
Turn A is a great story that happens to have "gundam" in its name. Can't say anything about Victory but the mecha design of IBO second season is suuuper interesting.
@@absa the mech design is probably to make each of the 72 Gundam seem like demonic entities.
I really like how they made an Amuro clone with traits of Heero Yuy to make Mikazuki Augus.
It was a nice choice to have that super loyal hybrid serve the Char clone who has a hint of Zechs Marquise with that initial streak of laziness~cowardice that you often find in high I.Q people. It worked well as one was the other's courage and the other his "vision"(as he kept asking him; what do we do next!).